#fury

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marsh kiln
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Yeah it is

ruby bolt
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is the correct way to sim s4 vs s3 tier sets to have them all selected and both s3 talents and s4 talents?

marsh kiln
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They will literally do bids for loot

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Rather than just rolling normally or whatever the fuck

ember apex
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that's crazy. who has fun w/ that

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the second u add a dollar value to shit in a game i hate it

slim coral
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I don’t pay

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I never paid was pretty much always able to play with the whales

marsh kiln
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Ahh ye

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In korea they just monetize it differently pretty sure

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I only pay real $ only if i know ill be playing the game for a long time

cunning fjord
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Fellas, my scrap vendor addon sold my S3 tier items at some point and I already used my item restoration 2 days ago, F in the chat

marsh kiln
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Umm

dense elbow
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nice addon

marsh kiln
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Cant u just re-buy it?

cunning fjord
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it's not there anymore

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I think it sold it last night

marsh kiln
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Lol

dense elbow
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That is what you get for using such a weird addon

marsh kiln
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Well

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I use scrap too

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But theres probably a setting

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That auto sells legacy

marsh kiln
ember apex
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for me my hard line is that if i ever need to buy a wow token to play the game im quitting

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b/c then its p2w for me

marsh kiln
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If im bankrupt and i dont feel like making gold by boosting / farming

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Usually every 3 months or so

dense elbow
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That is almost doubling your monthy costs in WoW

marsh kiln
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I pay for 2 accounts

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2 yearly subs

dense elbow
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Quadroople then

marsh kiln
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I mean if u can make enough for a wow token irl in like 1hour its not much

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Less time wasted whilst farming gold for 10hrs to make the same amount

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I only spent 60euros past year on tokens

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Will China servers ever come back?

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Or all of them in TW now

fair star
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They did

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I mean

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They came back

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Blizz made another contract with net ease or somethin

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N they r helping ppl get their accs back

cunning fjord
marsh kiln
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Isnt net ease dodgy

torpid sand
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Hello guys

compact flint
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In mythic+ talents for s4 tier set. Taking away stuns (Stormbolt & Shockwave) adds more dps to the charts with uproar, reverberation, second wind. Would taking away 3k dps for stuns be better for us?

torpid sand
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Did they buffs us already

torpid sand
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This week I'm using stuns because of bolstering

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It's just too risky not to use it

compact flint
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I really like second wind because i hardly get hit and it heals.

marsh kiln
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Sometimes can save u

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If adds casting shit and no one has cc

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Healer struggling

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Etc

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Situational

torpid sand
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Major problem is that second wind won't save you from occasional one shots

compact flint
torpid sand
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And they happen more often than what you think in +10s

keen kindle
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Second wind is just very inconsistent

marsh kiln
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I used uproar+extra crit

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No shockwave

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In +25s

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But sometimes shit went south and that shockwave coulsve saved me

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In s2

compact flint
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I think it depends if you got friends or pugs. Shockwave for pugs is better because you dont have to rely on idiots lol.

marsh kiln
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Yeah i only pugged

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No voice

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If u dont use shockwave in pugs usually ends with "gg nice idiot"

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And then "bye"

compact flint
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True. I'm just trying to find ways to increase single target dps while using mythic+ talents since Raid talents are better. We do good AoE but Single Target seems stressful to get up there.

marsh kiln
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Thats why i swapped to arms

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Good aoe and good st

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Gotta make use of it

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Until it gets nerfed if it does

compact flint
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Wonder if they did buff something what would they buff to help.

marsh kiln
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I struggle with survivability sometimes

covert coyote
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Depends on group comp too. If you got 2 AoE stubs already just take the dam

marsh kiln
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Because im used to playing like a fkin maniac

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Because i know i can outheal myself

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As fury

covert coyote
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They could buff the BT set dmg increase to get double dmg increase vs main target

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Double the increase *

marsh kiln
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Yeah that would give us like +25k dps

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Closer to arms

compact flint
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I hardly press BT. I tend to hit raging blow constantly like every 0.5s Raging blow is up.

small scarab
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witch is wierd considering the spec wants us to use bloodthirst to get rage for more rampage and keep hot steel cold blood up

covert coyote
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CSHB is just a bonus, not something to focus. We should be pressing bt like what, every 4/5 ramps?

marsh kiln
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They should 2x the crit damage for bt

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It doesnt matter if its 4/5 ramps

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It would still give like 20k dps

small scarab
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solution would be simple, lower max stacks to 5 but make them match the current power.

marsh kiln
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% wise bt does like 8% damage i think

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In ST higher

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And meatcleaver should be 8targets imo

marsh kiln
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5 too low

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Almost all specs have uncapped or softcapped aoe

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Dumb

small scarab
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not talking about spamming it, but having it reach max power output faster would be more optimal in my opinion

olive wraith
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That’s part of the problem with tuning. We have less stacks of the tier so it hits like a wet noodle

small scarab
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So you did not read my part about making them mach the current power?

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5 stacks would be equal to the current 10

olive wraith
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Realistically that’s probably not happening

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Fury already had “tuning” not sure if blizz really cares for the rest of the season

small scarab
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Well they did take the public opinion on a bad tierset so im willing to belive anything can happend at this point :d

marsh kiln
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Ehh i mean it probably doesnt matter

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Its s4

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Maybe warr will shine in tww

olive wraith
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The community voted on it

marsh kiln
olive wraith
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They’d get more shit if the overruled the vote

small scarab
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and half of them are regreting it

marsh kiln
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Ppl probably wanted to fuck with warrior too

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I doubt all main warrs voted

small scarab
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I still sim and preform better in my older tier set so i'll just leave it at that

marsh kiln
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😄

olive wraith
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lol who

slim coral
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Only 10 weeks left in the season anyways

marsh kiln
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More like 14

olive wraith
slim coral
marsh kiln
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I mean shit like this happens in oldschool runescape aswell

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Where pvp players will vote against pve

chrome plover
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every time i tab into this channel it's crying about tier set and votes

marsh kiln
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Just because pve players vote agains pvp

chrome plover
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what have we become

marsh kiln
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So for example ppl who dont even play warr will vote for the shittiest tier possible

olive wraith
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You think pvp wanted s2?

marsh kiln
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Just to fuck with it

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Lol

sour tundra
olive wraith
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Big doubt

marsh kiln
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I just want KSM

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I didnt play week1

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Only cleared normal voti

olive wraith
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Majority of the votes were just influenced by streamers

marsh kiln
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I wont really play much s4

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Ill just finish off both meta achievements for SL/DF and wait for mop remix

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And ksm/fated mounts because FOMO

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Addiction

olive wraith
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I really like the mount

chrome plover
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the ksm mount?

olive wraith
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Ye

marsh kiln
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S2 and s4 are best ones

chrome plover
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i didnt like it personally

olive wraith
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Whaaaa

covert coyote
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Same. It’s weak no matter the color to my eyes

marsh kiln
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S3 avocado

olive wraith
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S3 ksm was kinda lame

marsh kiln
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S1 icy dogshit dinosaur

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S4 doti theme

marsh kiln
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Even glad mounts were bis

covert coyote
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They were better than current but I still found them gawdy. Really big even if the design was decent

marsh kiln
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Tww will have a ton of banger mounts

meager void
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yo whats the feel on running both intim shout + shockwave

marsh kiln
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Im close to hitting 600 mounts

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So ill get the achievo instantly

meager void
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im missing my extra omg stop

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for m+ ofc

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was thinking of dropping Barbaric Training for Intim Shout

marsh kiln
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I played int shout + shockwave in s2

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Its alright

night void
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Guys do t you think it's just not about tier set but whole fury spec is weak as it's whole? They just bandage it with strong but stupid s3 tier

marsh kiln
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Some dps loss

small scarab
# olive wraith Because ilvl

Dude.. item lvl? are you even real now, an older tier set ok 489 vs a new tier set Awakened heroic 515 items and the older one is preforming better, even if if i change my stat weights to balance eatch perferct the old still outpreforms as of now, if i need to go up to full mythic raid item lvl just so that the pure strenght+ bonus will tip the scales, you are not seeing the problem

covert coyote
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It’s not bad if your group has little CC but shouldn’t be necessary

marsh kiln
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Just dont use the knockback int shout

night void
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It's time to buff spec not tier fury needs like aura buff + buff to spender (rampage)

meager void
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wait im an idiot, cant drop barbaric training for intim shout

marsh kiln
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Like tww

meager void
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you loose the way into shockwave lol

marsh kiln
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We're gonna be B- tier

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Instead of D tier

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I can feel it

olive wraith
covert coyote
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I’d love to see them add a new spender ability

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Maybe it does bigger damage but doesn’t enrage you so you need 2 whole brain cells to use it

olive wraith
covert coyote
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Or has some other effect

meager void
marsh kiln
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My dps increased by around 20k

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Swapping fron 489 s3 to 515 hero

olive wraith
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S3 def is better st but ilvl will overcome that

meager void
marsh kiln
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But youll see a bigger increase just by uograding leggo

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Lol

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Its like 3k dps every upgrade

meager void
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drop honed reflexes?

frank dawn
meager void
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ya

marsh kiln
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I had a screenshot somewhere from s2

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Int shout + shockwave build

sour tundra
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should i get Ashkandur as a 2nd buy with bullions?

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i dont raid

pseudo barn
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Depends. If you are impatient, sure. Just know though that if a max ilvl weap comes in your vault, you’ve basically wasted a Bullion i feel

vale wraith
vale wraith
ember apex
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im not in game is augury 1 or 2 boullion cubes

meager void
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everything is 2 I believe

ember apex
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so im not getting an augury for another week and a half

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idk why the limited the boullion cubes

humble plover
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Loot one from him next week 4head

ember apex
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just let me farm em out rq

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yeah let me just get that ultra rare drop augury

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thats bis for everyone

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also my spec is the worst in the entire game

humble plover
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It's not bis for everyone

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Just hit harder idk

wild mica
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have you tried hitting your keyboard harder, it translates to in game damage

ember apex
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yeah sick

tardy lark
hasty path
chrome plover
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tbf it's not bis for that many

chrome plover
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doesnt matter when your teammates are trash

tardy lark
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You could’ve done 100k more if you followed my advice sadge

chrome plover
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no I probably do 100k less because im brainless sadge

steel horizon
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Hope we getting some buffs in a few weeks, gotta live with this setbonus already even tho s3 was better, atleast i want some dmg

slim coral
chrome plover
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they were both so braindead it was miserable

slim coral
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But the spec required 2 buttons

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Didn’t thing being bad at the rotation was possible

soft merlin
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havent played since last season? fury in a shit spot atm?

chrome plover
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they were also perma dying

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both of them

dense elbow
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The only thing holding my DPS overalls back, is how I keep dying or having to kite mobs - as I pump DPS in keys (in s3 gear) xan

humble plover
dense elbow
chrome plover
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yeah dont look in this channel for a reasonable take tbh

chrome plover
hasty path
steel horizon
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The main Problem is our ST dmg, but buffing that is problematic, cause that would also buff our aoe, which ist fine atm, so they probably dont rly want to increase that

soft merlin
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Are we in a bad spot because of ilvl min max upgraded gear or just overall crap dps atm

humble plover
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Fuck it buff the aoe who cares if we can keep up with casters there

ember apex
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if buffing our aoe would be so terrible and game breaking 🙄

steel horizon
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I guess that would work but i dont think they can be bothered to buff us, seeing how Fury was barely touched all throughout dragonflight

hasty path
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It was also fairly good for most of the xpac

steel horizon
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True

ember apex
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fury was just mid all expac we were never like top tier. fyrakk was prob the only exception

ashen socket
ember apex
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not the best though, fyrakk we kinda were

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p3 fyrakk needed adds that spawn like 5 seconds after the breath

tardy lark
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Nah man, we weren’t rogues at any point

unreal onyx
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there's a difference between being "mid" and being "not the best"

ashen socket
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Sark and raz

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We were third best melee for sark

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And best for raz

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Also its not just our damage

ember apex
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rasz p1 intermission was goated

ebon junco
ember apex
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i will say that

ashen socket
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our survivability matters alot too

ebon junco
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fucking based weapon

ember apex
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p3 rasz needed adds though for sure

ember apex
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that gif needs like a 30% speed up'

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feels like wow grandma startin up her game

tardy lark
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Might do fury keys today just to see how bad it is

ember apex
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what levvel

tardy lark
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Somewhere in the 10-14 range I guess

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I mainly just need weeklies

hasty path
night void
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But boss DMG on tank lvl (almost)

dense elbow
night void
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I m having fun I m doin them both as specs but but that's reason I know I m talking bout

dense elbow
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I got 99 on sark, and I got beat by ppl doing purple logs peepostudy
Ya sure you not looking at old seasons?

ember apex
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thats what im saying fyrakk was like the 1 true exception

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where u could natty see a warrior in the top 100

ashen socket
dense elbow
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Ah fair, ya had me scratching my head there

ashen socket
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Yeah no this season we are pretty behind

vale wraith
modern shoal
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Copium replaced with doomer

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Order is restored

dense elbow
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hopium

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it is da way

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Wensday, we get buffs

modern shoal
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TWW Hopium

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Wednesday doom only

marsh kiln
fair star
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Do you guys really think we will get buffs

marsh kiln
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Actually u might be right

fair star
marsh kiln
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We might get 1% ww buff

dense elbow
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gladge nerfing all other classes by 10-30% is fine by me

vale wraith
marsh kiln
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Itll get 1% whirlwind buff

fair star
fair star
marsh kiln
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Yes

dense elbow
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Hah, I can see that happen "S3 was performing too good compariably, so we reduced its power"

fair star
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You know what will happen

dense elbow
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Actually blizzard take

marsh kiln
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1% ww buff heroic throw buffed by 50%

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Yeah

fair star
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Blizzard notes:
We feel like fury warrior has been a little more strong than we'd like to this season,we are reverting the whirlwind buff we put in s2,we will keep you updated on future nerfs

modern shoal
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"We weren't seeing enough heroic throw usage"

marsh kiln
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Thats exactly what we need

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And storm bolt damage increased by 10%

upbeat sentinel
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Buff slam damage

modern shoal
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All I know is my ret alt's leggo is 535 and my warrior's is 502, blizzard made me pink

fair star
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Shockwave damage reduced by 10%

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Avatar now increses damage dealt by 15% instead of 20 for fury

dense elbow
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"Odyn's Fury nerfed by 51%"

modern shoal
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This is some proper dooming

marsh kiln
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Heroic Throw <Insert random low number % that doesnt make sense> buffed

fair star
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Anvil no longer benefits from annhialator

marsh kiln
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Usually how those buffs go

fair star
marsh kiln
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2.22772234% buff

upbeat sentinel
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Slam damage buffed by 100%

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YOU WILL SLAM!!!!

dense elbow
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Raging blow now does 12% more dam, Rampage damage reduced by 22%

modern shoal
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Any thunderclappers

fair star
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Kek imagine thunderclap buffs

marsh kiln
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Imagine if rampage only needed 40rage

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APM fest

modern shoal
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We felt thunderclap was being underused

dense elbow
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Rampage now costs 40 rage, damage reduced by 92%

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Nerfs aint done before WW unbuffed is our heavyhitter

marsh kiln
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Bladestorm added into fury talent tree

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Damage reduced by 10%

dense elbow
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(ofc not the 70% buffed BS version - just the good old, no rage gain and low dam one)

marsh kiln
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U know what

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I miss shadowlands bladestorm + spear

fair star
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The only patch notes we will see with fury next reset

upbeat sentinel
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Whirlwind turned into a talent. Annihilator made baseline.

marsh kiln
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Running around in that blue diarrhea

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Whilst spinning

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Because u know youll win

ember apex
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they should just make avatar a 30 minute buff

fair star
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• Fixed an issue with the fury hidden artifact appearance

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Thays the only patch note for fury ur getting

marsh kiln
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All raid members get avatar

fair star
marsh kiln
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I think if that shit got added

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Fury would be bis

ember apex
marsh kiln
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We would be in groups then

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No more decline

upbeat sentinel
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Only 1 of us per group

marsh kiln
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Braindamage shout (bl) + avatar shout Q battle shout

marsh kiln
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Instant invites

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Also each avatar shout stacks

steep fable
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Did I do something wrong here in raidbots?
Scenario 1: current season 4 4-pc tier set and a 509 head piece from m+ (overall ilvl of 511) and using season 4 ST talents

Scenario 2: identical gear except for swapping in season 3 mythic tier pieces and even the 489 tier headpiece (overall ilvl 504) and using season 3 talents

Both scenarios using 6 minute patchwork, same weapons, neck, cloak, trinkets, everything except tier and talents being the only difference

Season 3 tier is 293.5k
Season 4 tier is 286.8k (even at 7 ilvl higher overall

This looks like it will take all season 4 tier pieces at heroic ilvl to catch up to the 489 pieces from season 3.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f4RAnaHnxLmedZkJVYJXLn

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q7AFATtez3ucBkDXbdasqc

I mean, what did I do wrong here, this doesn't make sense and the ilvl in raidbots is lower than in-game?

marsh kiln
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Could also make PI but it gives avatar instead of haste

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Lol

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Id make so much gold from it

oblique trail
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Although both specs get dumpstered if you play with a good Spriest or Destro

marsh kiln
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Umm do u have all the enchants?

steep fable
marsh kiln
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Kinda wondering how much u sim at that ilvl

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Lol

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My guess is 340k

olive wraith
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Ye fury doesn’t feel awful in keys

marsh kiln
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It doesnt

ember apex
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gameplay wise fury is terrific this season

marsh kiln
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ST is judt bad

olive wraith
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Managed a decent 300k~ overall in a pug hoi

ember apex
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i was top dps in a 8brackenhide and 8 RLP

tardy lark
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says a lot

olive wraith
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Gameplay is okay to me

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I much prefer the burst damage profile of s3

marsh kiln
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Youll probably be 355k with some stat recrafts

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Arms is pretty chill

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If u wanna play it

wild mica
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Arms was a lot more fun in s3, i hate cleave

ember apex
steep fable
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Yeah, learning arms prio build in raid atm 🙂

olive wraith
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You shouldn’t be beating ret/dh

wild mica
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fury is fine in m+, if you're struggling its a skill issue not a spec issue

ember apex
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they need to buff our ST tho

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for sure

steep fable
supple laurel
marsh kiln
wild mica
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yes, tyra weeks will suck

marsh kiln
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Use fury gear with arms

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Since arms gear with fury is shit

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But fury gear on arms still sims decently

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Early season atleast

steep fable
dapper goblet
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fury stats are a little wonky...

marsh kiln
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Yeah like high mastery on arms is still fine

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But no mastery fury sux

hollow elk
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Isn't arms all crit haste and fury is vers mastery or did it change with s2 tier

wanton mirage
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fury is haste mastery s2

marsh kiln
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I run 35c/35h/25m/28v

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Atm

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On arms

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But like

dapper goblet
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well i more meant like

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it wants me to keep my crit/haste ring

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just odd

marsh kiln
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It was only 10k dps increase if i use fury gear

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Decrease*

slim coral
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Big BT crits

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MASSIVE

dapper goblet
slim coral
marsh kiln
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Itll favor stats that u lack anyways

slim coral
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If only it actually did dmg

rustic haven
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Just keep the old tier set you gonna do blast damage.

hollow elk
marsh kiln
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S4 tier was still an increase for me

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20k dps

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Over 489 s3

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But it mustve been stats or whatever

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Once i got thunderous downburst ring / bloodied wedding ring and s4 tier

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I just re-specced

bright bough
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All my sims have said Use 2p from S3 and S3 talents and ilvl from S4 pieces but I don't ahve any gloves to compare yet so maybe when I'm 5/5 522 I can use S4 talents

dapper goblet
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fury buffs next week

hardy cargo
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real

main merlin
sullen dove
hardy cargo
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hes the warrior dev

main merlin
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at blizzard?

sullen dove
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ya clueless

main merlin
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oh buff fury dude

sullen dove
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TRUUUU

hardy cargo
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we are memeing lol

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its just cope

dapper goblet
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well they'll be doing m+ tuning

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so

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surely

main merlin
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a cool +20% dmg across the board should help

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send me the git PR ill review it and give stamp for deploy

sullen dove
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with s3 set

dapper goblet
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negative

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i have u on ignore

sullen dove
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real

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not bazed

hardy cargo
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owned

sullen dove
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opinion irrelevant

dapper goblet
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i only look at bazes sims

sullen dove
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@dapper goblet take a gander there

main merlin
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i played arms last night and dmg was ez but god damn is it boring

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until execute

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then its fun

dapper goblet
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correct

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arms playstyle

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asscrack

sullen dove
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8 ilvl difference 200 dps increase s4 set

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17 paragraphs

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buffing slam in tww!!!

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xanning worked!!!

young swan
sullen dove
graceful bay
young swan
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s2 is 2 buttons too btw

dapper goblet
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i hated season 3

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lol

sullen dove
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ya lol

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wrong reply

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(but both play exact same either way)

young swan
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i liked s3 cause it made my cooldowns feel like cooldowns

sullen dove
graceful bay
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Being more braindead than even Ret or BM is a bad thing.......but at least you can spin as Arms.

sullen dove
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huh u sayin arms is more braindead than those specs??

graceful bay
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Annihilator played itself

main merlin
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yes

sullen dove
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what r we talkin about anymore

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s2 fury is as braindead as it gets

young swan
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and current fury doesnt?

upbeat sentinel
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Also current fury is just as easy and brain dead as S3

sullen dove
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s3 maybe 5% harder than s2 fury cuz of funny opener

upbeat sentinel
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Yeah it wasn’t just “blow your whole load instantly”

sullen dove
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but fury def way less braincells than playing arms

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not that arms is hard but arms just has like.. 6 buttons in rotation

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instead of 2

summer grove
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S3 build with s4 tier sims better than s2 build....odd

dapper goblet
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just get higher ilvl tier

summer grove
#

oh yeah thatll change it

sullen dove
dapper goblet
#

idk i'm 418 and it sims higher than old tier

summer grove
#

different build had s3 14k ahead than s2 build with s4 tier

dapper goblet
#

518*

sullen dove
#

418!??!?!

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washed up!?!?!

dapper goblet
sullen dove
regal raptor
#

guys, do u know how much gold cost the Q for fyraak legendary axe?

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i mean the upgrade to turn it into legendary etc

supple laurel
#

I think it was roughly 300kish?

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for all the material etc. might be wrong, but around that

regal raptor
#

mm, ty budd

bright bough
#

I did it pretty late and it was closer to like 200k depending on tips

covert blaze
regal raptor
#

ty!

rustic haven
#

Anyone got weak aura for augury proc?

olive wraith
#

Is that really necessary?

ashen socket
buoyant salmon
#

guys why is spriest still op

#

md and soothe are essentially dead

rustic haven
#

Oh. I thought seeing it proc maybe benefical to use it to fullest instead of beign it in backround 🤷🏻‍♂️

buoyant salmon
#

who wouldve thought if a class does a million dps overall they are brought to every single key

rotund ginkgo
#

arms is simming 7k higher on ST and 30k higher on dslice for me

🥲 both m+ builds

buoyant salmon
#

bm is just a ranged spec and fury is melee

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which have both positives and negatives to each

rustic haven
#

Isnt BM not aoe capped?

buoyant salmon
#

i have no idea but that doesnt change how 'braindead' a spec is

rustic haven
regal raptor
#

another quick question guys if u dont mind, as a fury wich stats shall i priorize?

olive wraith
#

The ones that sim the best

hasty path
#

Strength

median falcon
#

How about that fury tier tuning

buoyant salmon
#

stats are so close in value for warrior that it actually doesnt matter

#

can just sim your top gear for gems and shit if you need

olive wraith
#

2% rampage. I can’t believe they buffed us so much

median falcon
#

So glad the worst tier was voted in

olive wraith
#

Nah it’s def not the worst tier

buoyant salmon
#

what tier does fury even have

#

bloodthirst one?

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or sudden death

olive wraith
#

S2

buoyant salmon
#

o yeah

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s1 was just worse than that one was

olive wraith
#

The ramps stacking bt damage

median falcon
#

Went arms and crushing it , prob solved 😆

frosty scroll
#

ragish i check up on u and u talking about playing arms, dont ever talk to me or my son ever again xeos

covert blaze
hasty path
covert blaze
#

full bottle no cap

hasty path
#

Dangerous in a moving vehicle

sullen basin
#

warrior owns paladin snoozewns

olive wraith
#

What even is that fight

sullen basin
#

smolderon lol

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second tank almost wiped it by not taunting ever

clever belfry
#

owning people doing s2 dps

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real

hasty path
sullen basin
#

i think they probably just pumped really hard then died

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and everyone else was shit

meager veldt
#

can i use two Ashkandur or is it unique ?

dusk jackal
#

unique

meager veldt
#

:(

sullen basin
#

actually happening?

sullen basin
chilly fractal
#

Fighting Fyrakk on PS1?

sullen basin
#

yes

barren dagger
#

i can send you a toaster with better specs

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dm me addy

sullen basin
#

nice try fed

fast crest
#

Does the s4 4p bonus also stack the rage generation component? Or is it just crit + %damage

sullen basin
#

hey thats not me

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next week

meager void
haughty parcel
#

Guys how do you feel about fury s4? Ive never played arms before and i do more dmg with him

marble pilot
#

I am having fun with s4 fury. But I never liked arms

haughty parcel
#

Yeah its fun

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But dmg is not there

marble pilot
#

Also Im not doing plus 14s or mythic raids so the damage is fine

heady saffron
haughty parcel
#

Yeah same, but compared to s3 dmg is a hell of a difference

heady saffron
#

this thingy decent? (havent simmed still mid run lol)

summer quail
heady saffron
#

hmm aight cheers

humble plover
lofty scroll
#

2 piece of each with OF talents

elder plank
#

Hey guys, Fury newbie here, quick question on the rotation, when using 'Beserker's Torment' do you hold your Reck/Ava cast to not overlap the CDs? Or do you double dip, or does the duration stack? Also I have just got my 4 piece, and do I only ever use bloodthirst when it will crit? The rotation guides say use it 95% plus but also lower down on the prio list? Thanks!

olive wraith
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2/2 is awful

lofty scroll
#

i can dmg 1.4 mil on the dummys

olive wraith
#

Bt is lower on the prio list (close to bottom iirc) when it’s not that guaranteed crit

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Like if you don’t have anything else to press you hit bt even if it won’t crit

olive wraith
lofty scroll
#

i already said it. its not sustained its the fact that i hit 1.4

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4 set i hit 800ish

olive wraith
#

You might be able to hit 1.4 in a 20 second fight

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But sustained 4p is gonna pull ahead

lofty scroll
#

he even says stay with s3

dense elbow
#

I have hit 1.2mill with S3 set, what ya lads on about now?

olive wraith
#

I didn’t watch the video

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But s3 has higher st

lofty scroll
#

thats aight lol

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it worked for me

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not sure with everyone else

dense elbow
#

If you stay with s3, you will do around 400-500k stable in all packs, with big burst peaks. All I know

fair star
#

15% more dmg

lofty scroll
#

if you want to stay with fury

olive wraith
#

Saying you hit 1.4mil doesn’t mean anything

heady saffron
#

we get a catalyst charge every week right? if so next week ill have 4 set guaranteed then i can mess with s4 build 🤔

olive wraith
#

You didn’t say how long you were on the dummies

lofty scroll
#

its not sustaained

dense elbow
#

I have critted 1.4mill with my weapon? what are we talking about

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I am so confused

heady saffron
#

still havent spent bullions hoping next weeks the week i get axe copium

dense elbow
#

S3 does less sustained AoE than S4, but S3 got its huge frontloaded burst and better/equal ST damage

dense elbow
#

then S3 also bursts out its ST - so that is a pluss

olive wraith
#

And also. The sets don’t compliment each other at all

fair star
#

But i cant find it in gifs

lofty scroll
#

again... its not for every fury user

olive wraith
#

So going 2/2 you may have great 20-30second burst. But it’ll drop off a lot

lofty scroll
#

but dratnos explained

heady saffron
olive wraith
#

You’re not even making an argument for any fury user

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Explain pls I didn’t watch

lofty scroll
#

im not

heady saffron
#

i like fury regardless of its output peepoHappy

dense elbow
#

Well, I can do 1.4mill in S3, so I have no idea what your point is

olive wraith
#

Does dratnos play warrior?

lofty scroll
#

i just shared...you choose what you want

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why dont you watch it haha

olive wraith
#

Because it’s a bad take

lofty scroll
#

then its not for you

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its easy as that

olive wraith
#

You made a claim. Proof of burden is on you

lofty scroll
#

no it isnt

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i just shared

olive wraith
#

Okay then 2/2 is bad

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Case closed

lofty scroll
#

ok thats fine

fair star
#

2/2 is bad

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Why would u rock 2 pieces at max 489 ilvl

lofty scroll
#

fury is bad

fair star
#

You aint wrong there

olive wraith
#

Fury st is bad yes

lofty scroll
#

but if you want to play around

olive wraith
#

M+ they’re mid

lofty scroll
#

lol

olive wraith
#

Play around with what? Something that will make you worse overall?

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Just smf at that point

lofty scroll
#

aww man

#

fury sucks right now

fair star
#

Crit said we should pick a tier set because we find it fun not cuz its good this season

lofty scroll
#

crit picked s2

olive wraith
#

He pushes keys

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S2 isn’t bad for that

fair star
#

Idk why fury st is bad tho

#

Wasnt it good in s2?

lofty scroll
#

tuning issues

olive wraith
#

Not really

lofty scroll
#

i forgot tbh

midnight kite
#

Fury ST in S2 was its own tier of bad

olive wraith
#

Nah it was mid

midnight kite
#

but you could argue that playing an AoE build all the time lowered their ST average

elder plank
cloud saddle
#

Bleh. Think I'll just sit out this season. Vastly preferred S3 tier - hate having to track stacks.

olive wraith
#

But they “buffed” the set and made use use bt at lower stacks

lofty scroll
olive wraith
#

So now the charged by hits for less

elder plank
olive wraith
cloud saddle
fair star
#

Ngl s3 tier was fun

lofty scroll
#

it was

elder plank
fair star
#

Someone here said that fury shouldnt be about ramp up dps but about instant dmg like of

cloud saddle
#

Agreed

fair star
#

And then we get the fury s3 tier set

cloud saddle
#

I'm actually a little surprised. I could have sworn S3 won

lofty scroll
#

s3 helped that it was primarily an aoe raid

olive wraith
midnight kite
#

I still think we will get buffed I just worry they will save it for like week 6 when interest for the season is dropping off already

olive wraith
#

Not sustained

fair star
#

I think someone once said that s3 has higher ST but s2 has higher aoe

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It feels as tho ive been bamboozled and s3 has higher ST and MT

olive wraith
#

S3 is much higher st

cloud saddle
#

Never did get the stupid axe either, so not terribly interested until the expac anyway

olive wraith
#

S2 has higher sustain aoe

midnight kite
#

S2 should do more AoE as long as the mobs arent spread out and ravager cant hit them all

haughty parcel
#

Overall s3 was far better

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Because you had decent st

fair star
#

S3 was fun

haughty parcel
#

Which now is garbage

fair star
#

I liked the big bloodbath crits

midnight kite
#

but also if the pack has little fodder mobs that die in 6 seconds then yeah slamming 2 Odyns fury's will do more

cloud saddle
#

Same

fair star
#

Big execute dmg phase from bt aswell

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Or wel bb

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Bloodbath :p

midnight kite
#

You could consider trying the RA/Ravager build it honestly sims almost the same

olive wraith
#

That’s a bad idea

#

I’d like to see those sims I call cap

gilded pawn
#

Hate ravager having triple the cooldown

midnight kite
#

RA sims like -1%ish on ST

fair star
midnight kite
#

it just feels bad when your already near the bottom of the sims to lose another 1%

olive wraith
#

You can’t AM and RA

misty bison
#

guys, quick question, any1 else getting crit prioritised over mastery on sims or is it just me ? I mean it sims like mastery on 40% and still disadvantaged 😦

midnight kite
#

and the rework to RA actually synergizes pretty good with the S2 tier

gilded pawn
#

Show sims

olive wraith
#

You’ll definitely get more burst using ra

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But I think you’re sustained would be awful

covert blaze
#

@edgy widget can you tell someone at wowhead to make a post with images of all the weapon mogs you can buy for 1 bullion 👀

olive wraith
fair star
#

1.2mil

gilded pawn
#

And crit is good in burst aoe

misty bison
#

and how should i sim for M+? I do one sim with 10 target 40 sec and 1 with 1 target 5 min, is there a trick ?

olive wraith
#

Honestly I’d just go with the st sim

fair star
#

5 targets 5min

olive wraith
#

We don’t really lose much going to aoe

misty bison
#

thank you very much for the help

upbeat sentinel
#

they have cooked the s4 bonuses so horrendously bad

fair star
#

Some ppl r coping fury will get buffs

cloud saddle
#

They will need to do some tuning across the board. There is a HUGE gap in overall damage across classes right now.

frank glen
#

hey guys, what should i buy with bullions for my 2nd "warrior" toon (want only enjoy fury a bit since im arms main). I thought about fyrakks dps trinket or ashkandur? The toon is 485 and he will never see leggo and i want to increase my dps output the highest possible.

olive wraith
#

Ashcandi is probably better. Weps are big for fury

hardy cargo
#

if youll never see legendary, go ashkandur

frank glen
#

ok alright ty ❤️

fair star
#

If youll never see the legendary youll never see yourself in the meters

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-Frosty

edgy widget
misty bison
fair star
#

Fury is fun but playing arms is my only chance to compete with my guildies lock

misty bison
#

Unfortunately I feel the same, problem is that I didn't really play Arms

wanton mirage
#

welp time to learn.

dense elbow
#

Just kneecap your lock twice

#

ez win on logs

wanton mirage
#

thats another way

dry holly
#

do locks need kneecaps to do damage? i don't think so.

dense elbow
#

Ok, here is what ya do - as you are uneducated:

  1. Ya will need some accomplishes, priests and evokers.
  2. During heroism and opener, have them run OOR and grip lock to them, when lock ports back, use rescu/grip to bring him OOR again
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Kneecapped

fair star
dense elbow
#

Bring em down and painfully, kneecaps is the way

dense elbow
fair star
#

This is brilliant

dense elbow
#

gl beating your lock

fair star
#

I nwed to share this with all the priests and warlocks i encounter

#

Who came up with this masterpiece this is actually brilliant

dense elbow
#

Your truly, I have trolled a lot of peeps over the years

covert blaze
south kayak
#

💀

#

Poor shamans

humble plover
#

Agreed

tardy lark
#

Wtf

#

Oh well wonder what it said

buoyant salmon
#

thats just actually not true though

#

"its own tier of bad"??

olive wraith
#

S2 fury was def above Aug in damage clueless

#

Unlike now

dense elbow
#

keks if only

#

S2 Fury Vs Aug repeats

#

just as blizz intended

brave cairn
#

I wish we kept S3 mannn

dense elbow
#

Fair - tho you should give s2 a spin, ton of fun in m+

olive wraith
#

Kek

brave cairn
#

So we wouldn't have to compete with support classes

modest condor
olive wraith
#

Ye m+ at least doesn’t feel bad

dense elbow
#

Shit, Silm, you are almost beating my s3 Fury warrior

buoyant salmon
#

what

#

are you okay

#

what the fuck kind of source is that

midnight kite
#

How many parses are there on mythic

olive wraith
#

In what world should Aug be ahead

buoyant salmon
#

rashok mythic, fury and like 4 other specs were all tied

fleet sorrel
buoyant salmon
#

oh we went from s2 talk to s4 talk in two messages

dense elbow
#

After tonight tho, the pro DPS warriors play -and Fury warrior is saved on logs

#

trust

#

We will shoot up to high mid

crimson nacelle
#

Does Fury switch to the new tier at 2-set or at 4-set?

olive wraith
#

Just post zaqali logs

dense elbow
olive wraith
#

You wouldn’t swap to new rotation with 2p

#

You can’t pick up os

brave cairn
olive wraith
#

Fury ain’t getting buffs

brave cairn
#

Arms gets nerfs keks

#

Brown class at 2 bottom dps

polar needle
dense elbow
#

We will be top 3!!

brave cairn
olive wraith
#

I mean keys matter pulls matter

brave cairn
#

If I've ever seen one

olive wraith
#

So you’re gonna get varying degrees of overall

fair star
brave cairn
#

Or utility

dense elbow
#
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olive wraith
#

Can we overthrow the vote

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And get a buffed s3

fair star
brave cairn
#

Balance is out the window

brave cairn
#

Fury support class confirmed by Blizzard

honest sundial
#

Breaking news: Fury becoming new tank spec

warm crag
covert coyote
#

Blizz didn’t have the wherewithal to make the poll 1 vote per account, they damn sure won’t cast a second glance at the complaints about their least favorite class.

ebon junco
#

item

#

10% dmg missing

dense elbow
#

sadgers I get the mythic one

#

just you wait

warm crag
ebon junco
#

Bro, I went fury for 1 clear

#

in the raid

#

and holy fk there's nothin worse to play

#

XDDD

#

Sark was the only fun boss

olive wraith
#

Zaqali was fun s2

oblique trail
#

EB Arms unironically most fun I've had with Arms this expac

ebon junco
#

most irrelevant boss

oblique trail
#

But not saying too much

warm crag
oblique trail
#

It's real enough

ebon junco
covert coyote
#

Known sure. But only degenerates exploited the issue. I’d be interested to see the true poll results

ebon junco
#

it's above BB 1x if you have okayish

#

RNG

warm crag
#

true gamba spec

dense elbow
olive wraith
covert coyote
#

Maybe if you don’t have a brain able to discern BS from reality

#

1 person should = 1 vote. Call me a democracy stan

olive wraith
#

No one was stopping us s3 voters from casting multiple votes

supple laurel
#

withj S3

#

and I am 498

polar needle
#

S4

dense elbow
covert coyote
#

So because we didnt exploit an oversight…it’s our fault?

supple laurel
#

oh yeah I ain't gone around to the S4 one yet, only got 2 pieces

polar needle
#

i was doing about the same with my s3

fair star
#

S3 does more than buffed s2 set

#

Or well s4

warm crag
olive wraith
#

It’s not an exploit if it’s within the “rules”

dense elbow
#

To be fair, S3 voters were busy meme voting S1

supple laurel
covert coyote
#

Like I said. I’d like to see the true poll results

dense elbow
#

Just divie it by 20, or so, and it should be about right

polar needle
warm crag
#

theres no reason to believe that multi account voting made enough of a dent to skew one side more than the other

supple laurel
#

I haven't watched any vids on s4 set, but try chucking your logs/run into log review

#

and someone can pitch in on what to improve on

warm crag
#

most people didn't bother to vote, it'd be silly to assume that enough people logged and made multiple characters to vote multiple times

dense elbow
warm crag
#

except for me rigging the vote

olive wraith
#

The biggest sway were the streamers getting behind s2

olive wraith
dense elbow
#

I aint no snitch - also, I voted S1 with my extras gladge

supple laurel
#

As in TRUE to that

modest condor
#

but s1 doesnt play OF

dense elbow
#

Only 1 vote for s3, I am a honest gentleman

warm crag
dense elbow
forest owl
#

Contrary to opinion i actually love s2 set......it got me learning to play arms clueless

warm crag
#

50 is a lot of people to know exactly of what they did

dense elbow
modest condor
#

i have 50 accounts that all have 20 characters and i used them to vote s2

dense elbow
#

I really hope noone used multiple accounts solo

swift cradle
#

S3 was so good looking back at it now

covert coyote
dense elbow
#

that would be true degen

swift cradle
#

Feelsbad

fair star
#

I didnt vote

dense elbow
#

Didnt vote?!

warm crag
fair star
#

We warriors shouldve stood up

#

And voted the other classes bad tier sets

warm crag
#

i single handedly swayed the vote to s2

dense elbow
#

Stood up for what?

fair star
#

So they had trash tier sets

supple laurel
fair star
#

And we were on tip

last lichen
#

at least.... the mog was a good pick

fair star
covert coyote
#

S1 mog >

dense elbow
#

If you didnt vote for s1, ya could vote for s2 or s3 - both were great picks.
S1 was the meme, rest are win/win - only that blizz did not tune it right

fair star
#

Imagine if s1 was chosen

#

And blizzard somehow overtuned it

swift cradle
fair star
#

Ngl that would be cool

#

Spamming execute

olive wraith
#

Idk how they’d do that

dense elbow
olive wraith
#

Triple the sd procs and make ashen jug double?

midnight kite
#

S1 would have to be changed in a non numeric way to be useful I am pretty sure

fair star
#

Guys

#

What if i make a warrior

#

And lvl it to 70 without choosing a spec

#

Will do the same dmg as fury

dense elbow
#

ya will be a pretty pointless warrior - godspeed o7

swift cradle
#

Fury has this man all fucked up

dense elbow
#

Aren't we arms by default?

#

Never leveled :v

quartz rampart
dense elbow
olive wraith
#

Never using talent you’d be worse than healer damage

pliant prism
#

can someone explain to my dumb brain how this is meant to be converted to actual stat numbers

olive wraith
#

Just use Raidbots

#

Top gear/droptimizer

midnight kite
#

Ideally your stats should be semi balanced with a slight favor to haste and vers (likely because how much item damage we have now)

midnight kite
#

you have to swap like 2 things to sim it

fair star
#

Gonna share that forum post

#

In my guild

#

For help

dense elbow
#

🙏

fair star
#

I have an arms warrior in my guild thats never touched fury

#

Dafuw

midnight kite
#

Forgive my bad sim dps I lost the ashkandur roll

eternal sundial
#

wdym anyone else rolled on it

midnight kite
#

Other warrior

fair star
#

Was he fury aswell

last lichen
#

nah just wanted the mog

midnight kite
#

We were both playing Arms but I said fuck it and played fury on sark

dense elbow
#

wicked mah man

fair star
#

Did u lose to him on dps

midnight kite
#

Overall no, boss by a lot

#

the boss has so little hp that add prio wasent THAT troll

humble plover
#

I am the other warrior. I suck at arms. And little fight knowledge. Next time I crank, chatting

#

Pulled a fat 16 parse LETSGOOO

midnight kite
#

Yeah it dosent help I have unironically 20x his pulls

fair star
#

Did u steal his asskandur

midnight kite
#

To be fair he wants to keep the fury dream alive too

humble plover
#

Better me than the warlock that rolled for pet mog

fair star
#

Ok wtf is this keks emote

#

Its like a budget made in china kekw emote

midnight kite
#

Theres no way I would let that thing unironically go to a Tmog roll

dense elbow
forest owl
#

This emote describes fury lifestyle day to day currently.

fair star
#

Players*

humble plover
#

I actually wanted to give it to him but I doubt they would have liked rolling for it and then me giving it to him anyways

midnight kite
#

I was also semi trolling by stacking my tier set to 10 and dumping it into add waves because it seemed funny

fair star
#

Sounds like a me

humble plover
#

Big number funny

fair star
#

Guys

#

Yapping moment

#

Fury will be played in tgp

#

In brackenhide

#

Cuz last boss fury players will stack 10 stacks of bt

midnight kite
#

I thought it would do like... a bit more then that

fair star
#

Thats 1mil in a single hit

midnight kite
#

yeah but I dont think its worth over the lost boss dam

dense elbow
#

Just go S3, then blow up the adds with OF value and burst the boss with real BB dam