fury

[glad coyote]

so that was a nok 10+

i have crap trinkets and crap rings/neck still

everything else is heroic

[polar needle]

Ya like 190 was my 10 nok and I have all H gear pretty much

[marsh kiln]

190k overall?

[glad coyote]

wyou have lego capped?

plus 2hander capped?

[modest condor]

bruh

190k would have been low at the start of last season

you're doing something really wrong

[marsh kiln]

im in the range of 300-400k+ at 498

depending on the dungeon

ur doing something wrong

[obtuse steeple]

yeah right 400k cuz the priest giving you buff

[marsh kiln]

no priest lol

no aug

[glad coyote]

you can do 400+ in certain dungeons just dependings how the tank pulls

[modest condor]

even just pulling 1 pack at a time you should be in the 300k range if no wipes

[marsh kiln]

in +5av i did 310k

but its small packs

[slender perch]

just reroll ret problem solved

[polar needle]

lol I never claimed to know what was doing

[tender cairn]

proper warrior

[obtuse steeple]

tbh not always correct because if you play with two pumpers they will blast the trash super hard too , sometime gotta fight on who press faster

[polar needle]

I have the raid 2h capped but no Lego yet

[glad coyote]

i cant believe im number 10 on stormrage for fury

[polar needle]

Right lol

[marsh kiln]

top10 in my realm is only 2.7k io rn

nobody queueing for my keys 😦

dead game

[sullen basin]

i do the same dogshit dps as i do as fury maybe a little lower

im sure ill get used to it

[left perch]

buyer detected

[sullen basin]

execute is fun, but til 35% its like ? ?? ? ?

[polar needle]

lol I wish that shit was way to much gold to buy

[polar needle]

At the end of the day as long as you don’t die doing keys isn’t that bad lol

[glad coyote]

i got a feeling they will nerf greiftorch

[polar needle]

lol

[warm crag]

only one class in the game plays it in their bis setup tho no

[polar needle]

Who’s that evokes ?

[warm crag]

rogues

[chrome plover]

hunters do

[polar needle]

No kidding wouldn’t have guessed that

[final birch]

isnt it also god for havocs

[chrome plover]

havoc plays brand+anvil

[rare bloom]

Yes

[warm crag]

its good for everyone

but not bis iirc

[final birch]

ye but outside of long kills

[rare bloom]

It's a very good trinket for ST and M+ for Havoc

[surreal mirage]

Its bis if your raid sucks

Like nothing comes even close

[chrome plover]

true if there's a single death it usually jumps to the top trinket

[surreal mirage]

^

[rare bloom]

It's BiS when you convince your raid to get the Sark Cloak

[fair star]

I sold hc grieftorch for 350k

[warm crag]

i will coordinate people to die every 30 seconds

[surreal mirage]

2 deaths and nothing comes close

[fair star]

Maybe i shouldve sold it for higher

[glad coyote]

solid profit

[chrome plover]

you only need 1 or 2 melons to fall off the platform

and ur pumping

[glad coyote]

even though people can get it from vendor

[surreal mirage]

Shouldve kept it

[tender cairn]

shouldve disenchanted it

[chrome plover]

im sad i didnt roll bis on the 3 grieftorches that dropped last week tbh

[tender cairn]

[fair star]

Tru lalio

[surreal mirage]

You think its one of those that people buy from vendor

Or is the vendor actually unlimited now

[fair star]

I mean i was poor i had 50k gold

So seemed like a good decision

[tender cairn]

grief is bis for some

so why not

[fair star]

Now i have 340k i thonk im gonna stop buying potions of ultimate powet

They drain my pockets

[tender cairn]

im constantly scared of buying anything

[prime root]

Grief torch is just a fun item to have in raid

People get bored and kill each other so u can just blast with it lol

[dense elbow]

No anvil, no asscandy, no OCE, no nothing...
This week left me out for real for real. Even LFR did not drop the items
Dungeons are only +100-800 DPS upgrades

Don't be me, get lucky, buy luck now

[frank dawn]

Reroll to WW Monk and you can buy 10-20k dps upgrade

[sage smelt]

i'm in a social heroic guild, last night was fun

[unreal onyx]

++9 nelth

fury fuck good

[mossy fox]

damn neltharus weapons fell off

used to be so good in s2

[quaint stag]

I only have a 505 grief torch and in pugs it’s so good

[mossy fox]

must have got a bad tierset or something

[dense elbow]

I am so used to see ppl doing 450-500k+ DPS
What they doin?
Ya do good dam tho, I am just confused

[unreal onyx]

fury doing 450-500k?

[mossy fox]

it's a +9, you'll find all kinds of players there

[dense elbow]

Fair

[unreal onyx]

the spriest had a ++12 uld timed

i expected more from them tbf

[dense elbow]

Tanks matter a lot too

[mossy fox]

good priests will gap you

this was not one of them

[unreal onyx]

definetly

[dense elbow]

Even if pulls are done small?

[mossy fox]

yeah

[dense elbow]

[unreal onyx]

spriest and fire mage very good

[dense elbow]

Ret and rogues too are doing good dam. Not seen any havoc's yet tho, weird

Actually not seen one

[mossy fox]

dont havocs have survival issues in the highest keys

anyway they do good dam for sure

[final birch]

ye

[dense elbow]

Ye, but I do 10s

[unreal onyx]

a lot of rets in my pug adventures have been pretty lacking from all the hype I hear about them

[final birch]

blur is 1 min cd and outside of blur + neatherwalk (immunity on 3min cd) you dont really have anything

you have 15% hp shield and maybe 8% magic dr if you play with sigil around it

[mossy fox]

idk how rets can vary so much in damage tbh

just send wings on cd easy rotation

[barren dagger]

Big player pool = big variance innit

[vapid mulch]

Possibly the lowest skill playerbase in the game outside of Aug and SL S1 boomie

Obvs have some serious meathead pumpers but every class will

[barren dagger]

Ceiling is very high but baseline is low

To make use of all that utility while pumping is what diff them

[bitter palm]

they dont have much

[final birch]

sadly most rets have their utility as cosmetic buttons

[bitter palm]

it's just that no one else has it

[cosmic void]

How is ret ceiling very high ?

[bitter palm]

it isn't

he is talking about utility usage

which isnt hard at all

[cosmic void]

Right

[bitter palm]

just gotta do some research

[prime root]

Too many people playing this game not pressing their buttons

[covert blaze]

ret ceiling is very low lol

[prime root]

People are always amazed with my spell reflection usage I'm like huh? I like use it on cd lol I thought everyone uses it every chance they get? 🤔

[mossy fox]

i dont get praised for spell reflecting

more like denied at every opportunity

[noble elm]

We don’t talk about spell reflect, shhh

[tame yarrow]

I dont get praised at all as warrior

[noble elm]

They’ll nerf it

[tender cairn]

u guys get invites?

[vapid mulch]

/Y Spell Reflect is up - Don’t Kick!

[dense elbow]

Worst part is when you are on coms, "I am going to spell reflect A, dont interupt A, I will reflect it"

They interupt it at 0.1sec every time.

[vapid mulch]

entire group kicks

[noble elm]

Yes if you use the magic two button combination you’ll get way more invites

[tender cairn]

the what

[noble elm]

Very simple. Press N, press spec swap to prot

[tender cairn]

[tame yarrow]

Still no DH though

[noble elm]

Tru

[tender cairn]

unfortunately brm is the only tank spec I enjoy

[noble elm]

I’m stomping keys as prot this season, only struggle I’ve had so far is having to use d stance for some keys

Feels gross

[prime root]

I mean this. All day this. I feel ya brother lol drives ya bonkers but at least they know their interrupt exists 🤣

[final birch]

its a bit ass if youre on comms

but

people are just not used to playing with warriors

[prime root]

Yeah some people just react tho

[final birch]

they see a cast, they kick which is fair

esp when I say "[name] next"

then its on me

and its kicked

[prime root]

I do it with interrupts too someone will call it and my finger already did it without me thinking cuz it's the one cast in the pack or somethin

[mossy fox]

ive played with same team since sl s1 and they still kick almost everything on me when i press sr

it is what it is

[final birch]

I started kicking shit on me

myself

[left perch]

the good trolls

[prime root]

Haha that's just team trolling shenanigans sounds like to me

U just gotta kick faster critcake

[tender cairn]

nah

[shell jackal]

i'm still in season 3 4pc

[tender cairn]

just sr faster

duh

[prime root]

Lmao

[shell jackal]

that was 10

[tender cairn]

reflect b4 they can kick

[unreal onyx]

is the mutated magmammoth scale actually good?

it sims pretty well for me

[shell jackal]

idk i haven't had it drop i just want my s4 4pc

so i can actually start playing ravager

[unreal onyx]

how do you not have 4p yet

2 catalyst + 1 aotc token

just go lfr

and ez

[shell jackal]

i haven't won a single token

[unreal onyx]

you don't raid?

[shell jackal]

i do raid, we had one warrior token last night in hc and then i lost the rolls out of the 5 people rolling on the omnitokens

[tender cairn]

same

[shell jackal]

the warrior token was for a piece of tier i already had (i bought legs)

[unreal onyx]

that sounds surprising

you only do hc?

[tender cairn]

will have the guaranteed 3p this weekend tho

[shell jackal]

we did 3 bosses mythic and then wiped on experiments haha

[unreal onyx]

bc we do full hc and nm skip for omni + good loot bosses

[shell jackal]

we're only a 1.5 day/week guild

nm is on sunday, socials raid

[unreal onyx]

and most if not all ppl have 4p now

[shell jackal]

but we'll prio tier for core so i might get a piece then

btw

is 6/6 asscandy better than a myth track off-hand?

[unreal onyx]

sim question

[shell jackal]

still haven't taken my vault

[tender cairn]

oh wait

I do have shoulders in vault

[shell jackal]

its between gloves for tier or a myth track weapon but i got asscandy hc last night

[tender cairn]

but champ track

(disgusting)

[unreal onyx]

simming rn

[eternal sundial]

I got 3 tier pieces from HC in my alt vault

So i get 4P once i get funny anything

To cata

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8UWQvr9bmXdnM2abQUoS7q

[eternal sundial]

Lol

Sub 300 shitters

[tender cairn]

my lock actually swimming in loot

bros at 4p without using any catalysts

and bis trink from vault

[unreal onyx]

@shell jackal

[shell jackal]

i sim at 300k+ in season 3 4pc

[chilly fractal]

You can do better

[unreal onyx]

I mean, that's not every weapon

[vernal stratus]

Yo any experienced Fury warr can help me analyze logs? I feel like im very behind compared to sim

[unreal onyx]

but the general consensus is that OH hc ashk is better

[tender cairn]

how very

im 60k behind

[shell jackal]

thank god because i lied i already took myth shoulders for the catalyst

[tender cairn]

[shell jackal]

[vernal stratus]

25%

[left perch]

daaaamn he attacketh

[vernal stratus]

ye about the same

[chilly fractal]

Normal Ash is better than my 528 oh

[unreal onyx]

OH weap really doesn't matter that much

as long as you got 535 leggo in mh

[shell jackal]

[warm crag]

do you not have legendary?

[shell jackal]

ofc i do

i just meant what one would be better for the OH, a HC 522 asscandy or a 528 myth track weapon

[warm crag]

ya idk picking weapon out of vault for your offhand is so omega troll when the first 3 bosses of all raids have a weapon

[shell jackal]

but i have my answer now it seems

hahah man i don't know what i'm doing on this game

[warm crag]

iirc you offhand hc ashkandur against humanoids

[unreal onyx]

your oh hc ashk is also better against non-humaoids

[regal mulch]

I have found out it MIGHT be worthwhile to use 2p from last and 2p from this with last seasons talents. Until blizz does something IF they even do. I personally saw a pretty solid difference, going to do a little more testing this weekend.

[unreal onyx]

.

[shell jackal]

i dont run 2p 2p as fury, i run it as arms though

arms cranking atm but i love fury too much

[warm crag]

new 4p should sim higher unless you trolled the sim afaik

[shell jackal]

dude

i feel like i troll every sim i do idfk what i'm doing with sims

i feel like i tick all the wrong options lmao

[eternal sundial]

Link em

Skyhold frogs obsessively outsim ur sim

[shell jackal]

i can link my /simc input if you want? or do i run a sim and link that hahaha

[chilly fractal]

There are many reasons S3 sims higher than S4… for me it’s gonna be another week or so to swap to S4 because gear upgrades

[eternal sundial]

Run and Post

[warm crag]

what are you comparing s3 to unupgraded lfr 4p

fury 4p is bad but its not balance level bad

[chilly fractal]

Upgraded hero track isn’t good enough

Need like at least 2 myth

[warm crag]

link the sims please i wanna take a look

[dense elbow]

To be fair, HC 4/6 tier sims equal to 489 S4, just being outdone by a couple hundred points. So I believe it

[marsh kiln]

Theres just something about that blue axe icon near ur name on details

Makes u feel like a gigachad compared to all other specs

[unreal onyx]

blue axe icon?

[dense elbow]

There is a blue axe icon?

[marsh kiln]

[chilly fractal]

Is the blue axe in the room right now?

[dense elbow]

Never seen that before, is it like a bottom tier dps spec?

A new tank?

[unreal onyx]

that is not a blue axe smh

[marsh kiln]

Has blue near it

So its in fact

A blue axe

[dense elbow]

I can accept that being called "a blue axe icon"

[tender cairn]

the axe seems regular color

[dense elbow]

even if the eaxe aint blue

[eternal sundial]

Its blue

[unreal onyx]

that axe is silver and brown

[dense elbow]

Axe clearly isnt blue

[eternal sundial]

[tender cairn]

blue trail

[eternal sundial]

Ms is a blue spell

[dense elbow]

this is not blue

[marsh kiln]

If ur spec dont have MS its a shit spec

[dense elbow]

not blue

[sullen basin]

When will blizzard fix the poll and give us S3 tier

[warm crag]

brown man spec

[dense elbow]

effect is blue

[eternal sundial]

rb is a red spell

[unreal onyx]

[eternal sundial]

[dense elbow]

axe is not

[eternal sundial]

Also blue

[tender cairn]

yooo blue shield

[warm crag]

what is ww supposed to be again

[marsh kiln]

Blue nails

[warm crag]

i need like 5 minutes to try to figure out whats going on in the icon

[eternal sundial]

Hose check

[unreal onyx]

I am looking at the ww icon and I kinda can't see what it even means

[dense elbow]

Ye. the ww one is a bit special

[warm crag]

i think the gold ring is just the trajectory of the sword

and the blue is the swoosh of the sword with the afterimages

[sullen basin]

Afterimage of weapon spinning real fast, blue is weapon trail
Idk what the fucking ring is though

[dense elbow]

clealry is is a weapon swining in a circle, leaving "wind" behind

[marsh kiln]

Blue nails trying to scratch a blue wall

[unreal onyx]

I am still somewhat confused why they chose

[dense elbow]

he mad

he rampaging

[unreal onyx]

that looks like a guy that hit his toe on the edge of a table

[dense elbow]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAMPAGE!

[regal mulch]

Blue bawls

[marsh kiln]

Looks more like kumming face after a 6hour session

[eternal sundial]

Why not question bt

[sullen basin]

He's mad because his spec is weaker and his tier is worse

[dense elbow]

Dude, when you hit your toe and go on a rampage, that table goes flyin'

[unreal onyx]

I was about to

[eternal sundial]

Rather than ramp

[marsh kiln]

Ejecting all that rage

[unreal onyx]

what does that even mean

[eternal sundial]

Ejaculation

[marsh kiln]

Thanks

[sullen basin]

[tender cairn]

bloodlust

[sullen basin]

That's a dagger

[dense elbow]

That sir, is the blood thirst icon from warcraft 3, the spell

[unreal onyx]

and who is

[tender cairn]

the shaman skill!

thats mountain king

[sullen basin]

Some titan guy idk

[dense elbow]

That is Magni, no?

[regal mulch]

That icon was old school perditions blade icon

[dense elbow]

The Dwarf from War3

[eternal sundial]

He his him

[tender cairn]

so wait

[dense elbow]

[unreal onyx]

we do not have a heroic throw icon emote

[sullen basin]

[tender cairn]

are earthern just warrior with perma avatar

[sullen basin]

Fury doesn't have a piss spell like arms does

[dense elbow]

this shit?

[unreal onyx]

ye

[dense elbow]

it is something thrown at speed

[unreal onyx]

is it?

idk

[sullen basin]

It's an axe blade obviously

[dense elbow]

ye - the green makes no sense tho

[unreal onyx]

it's blue and green and slightly resembles the blade of an axe

[marsh kiln]

Wat dis

[dense elbow]

That is what we wish we had

[sullen basin]

The strongest macro image

[eternal sundial]

Sad animal baby

[unreal onyx]

:hamstring: or :impending_victory:

[tender cairn]

lil seal

[unreal onyx]

also very obscure imo

[dense elbow]

what does this have to do with Thunder?

hmmmm?

[eternal sundial]

Renamed

Formerly dragon roar

In sl

Innit

[unreal onyx]

true

[dense elbow]

Ya aint wrong

Time to fix icon, perhaps?

[tender cairn]

just slap rampage icon on it

[unreal onyx]

spear of bastion my beloved

[dense elbow]

To this day, I dont see a spear

[unreal onyx]

???

[eternal sundial]

Keep yourself safe

[dense elbow]

it looks like a lightbulb or vial filled with some blue stuff

[unreal onyx]

that spear

[dense elbow]

doesnt look remotely the same

[tender cairn]

its identical

[sullen basin]

It's the same just different colour

[tender cairn]

just the lower part isnt gold

[dense elbow]

Where the blue stuff and bronze cap?

[lavish beacon]

Blind

[unreal onyx]

sry this one

blue is the speed

[dense elbow]

That clearly isnt the same

[unreal onyx]

just like on MS

[tender cairn]

blue stuff is when u use it

[dense elbow]

Then take a pic of it, and I will believe ya

[tender cairn]

no

[unreal onyx]

no longer blue smh

[dense elbow]

See, no proof

tsk tsk tsk

[tender cairn]

your mother

[unreal onyx]

gottem

[dense elbow]

ye that is photoshop

[tender cairn]

what da spear doin

[unreal onyx]

I think bc I have it macrod to @ player it sometimes goes sideways

[tender cairn]

did u guys see the sword

[unreal onyx]

but that spear is literally the same one from the icon

they even kept the blue

[tender cairn]

from trader post

[unreal onyx]

ofc

first thing I bought

[tender cairn]

large bonker

ikr

watch them nerf the size

[unreal onyx]

ye it's bc of my macro

[dense elbow]

Handle isnt brown tho

so ye

also not the spear you linked

[unreal onyx]

handle is underground

[tender cairn]

[unreal onyx]

and has white outline

that is literally THE spear

[dense elbow]

Is that blue stuff supposed to be Kirian blood?

or Anima

[tender cairn]

yes

:)

[dense elbow]

[marsh kiln]

Blue axe

[dense elbow]

Axe clearly isnt blue tho

[marsh kiln]

It is blue

[dense elbow]

Ya colour blind

[tender cairn]

red blade

[marsh kiln]

Yup

Red

[dense elbow]

blade clealry isnt red

[marsh kiln]

The tip of the blade is red

[dense elbow]

Nop, not how that works

[marsh kiln]

Yellow blade

[unreal onyx]

yellow dagger

[marsh kiln]

Dagger*

[eternal sundial]

Blue Blade

[dense elbow]

The runes in it is yellow, so I guess it is kinda true?

[tender cairn]

black blade

[dense elbow]

fuck you man

that was good

[eternal sundial]

[tender cairn]

[eternal sundial]

Green spell

[marsh kiln]

Red axe

[shell jackal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nWSsvKPNkyNURZ62xmxTdz

with S3 4pc

[dense elbow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jJjri1mxpxGZHDE8LbE4LB

Git gud

s3 baby

[shell jackal]

still playing OF because i've won no rolls since s4 started 👌

is that ST? that's nice

how'd you get it that high? like do you have some giga trinkets and off-pieces

[marsh kiln]

Arms sims 500k

Same ilvl

[dense elbow]

Love that fury is so down bad, we see 330k dps and think to ourselves, "that is nice"

[shell jackal]

fury in shambles rn

[vast forge]

Fury should be strong on 5 targets, but as Arms you even do more

[shell jackal]

i'm gonna play what i like because i enjoy it fuck this arms vs fury battle we have goin on. now please help me with my sim.

[chilly fractal]

Hey that’s me! Hi me

[dense elbow]

the hero returns

[shell jackal]

i feel like i'm selecting all the wrong shit and because i feel i'm doing the input wrong, the output result is wrong? does that make sense? like i don't think i'm simming correctly (gems, enchants, what pieces i'm ticking, making sure i get what i want with the 300k iterations limit)

i don't get it

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uT6URj1369bxjskUnoH8kL big fan of S4 set ST

barely breaking 300k

[dense elbow]

you are 1k ahead of me

[marsh kiln]

Im simming 310k at 498 as arms

Lol

[dense elbow]

and that annoys me

[unreal onyx]

git gud

[shell jackal]

thats cool actually, arms is cranking right now! happy for you

[marsh kiln]

Just lemme.upgrade my axe to max and ill do 330k at 500

[dense elbow]

You know what? I will

[shell jackal]

can you take a look at my sim and see if i'm doing something wrong? like, inputting all my decisions and shit wrong?

[tender cairn]

my sims sit at 180k while im doing 110k

[mossy fox]

if you're gonna compare to arms sim, why not go all the way to dev

[unreal onyx]

just post it in here

[shell jackal]

i did

[unreal onyx]

plenty of people can help you

[marsh kiln]

Its a warrior spec thats why im comparing lol

[shell jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[dense elbow]

we can only take such a beating before it becomes leathal

[marsh kiln]

No point doing 20% less dps

When u can just simply go to talents interface and click arms

[mossy fox]

rename depths of insanity to depths of despair

[dense elbow]

ngl, that s3 carries over for this long kinda feels nice

I get to use OF for longer

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wUcvRTnfJcdfWvhapDG3yG

+40k

[dense elbow]

ye, same as that for me :v

[tender cairn]

I changed from s2 set to greens to s2.v2 set

[shell jackal]

you genuinely seem to know what you're doing with sims, i posted mine, can you take a look? sorry man i don't mean to bother you

donowalled

[chilly fractal]

I played Fury through Sanctum in SL I can make it through this shit meme season

[subtle lagoon]

I quit at the end of nathria and all of sanctum because of how shit fury was

Looks like the same is going to happen here, going to skip tww and hopefully be done with this game

and it doesn't suck me back in again

[mossy fox]

that was both warrior specs back in nathria actually

[shell jackal]

was arms that bad in nathria?

i regret never having played it because apparently Nathria as a raid was goated. all my guildies loved the shit out of it.

[mossy fox]

yes arms was bad

[subtle lagoon]

The raid itself was great

[chilly fractal]

SLG was not

[mossy fox]

although arms was pretty good on sire

[willow hazel]

[mossy fox]

good sweeping value and there was emphasis on p3

[willow hazel]

the phat condemn dunks felt so good

[dense elbow]

Warriors on sire just felt so good

[chilly fractal]

Remember when we got a great legendary to use for execute/condemn but then Blizzard said JK Sylvanas is gonna end at 50/45%

[dense elbow]

Luckilly arms still rocked that fight

[chilly fractal]

I did it as Fury

I think my guild was on M Sylv for 3 months?

[unreal onyx]

what do you want to have taken a look at?

sry made a coffee

[modest condor]

i remember max saying that arms was so bad if they knew ahead of time they wouldnt have brought one

my guild was memeing on me for all of CN for playing fury, like ok what if i play arms, tuned 2% higher but im not familiar with the spec

[mossy fox]

lmao

yeah arms and fury were both in the dumpster in CN

but at least on sire arms didnt feel like dead weight

also as warrior it was super easy to survive iirc

[shell jackal]

yo crit, any plans on making an in-depth simming guide/video?

for hopeless people like me who don't know how to sim

[mossy fox]

there are thoughts about making them but no plans no promises

[modest condor]

yeah condemn absorb

[mossy fox]

reflect on blood price also

[shell jackal]

hahah no worries boss

[chilly fractal]

RIP Condemn and Ancient Aftershock

[shell jackal]

damn ya'll are making me wish i didn't miss CN prog

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pNGmtswSkWnt7PnhmqMhw1 if you wanna keep playing S3

you don't have a S4 preset, so I can't check for that

[chilly fractal]

Who cares about banner… we were about to use it in sepulcher and then the nerf came through

[south kayak]

Where's Phil

[shell jackal]

yeah i have 3/4 pieces of the new tier i just catalyzed myth shoulders from vault so i might run NM Sark to try and cop an omnitoken

[leaden lake]

Is possible to buy with bullions a second ashkandur?

[chilly fractal]

Unique equipped

[modest condor]

yes but i dont see the point

[white quest]

Hey wanted to ask on your input.

I dont have Fyralath yet but i have 2 bullions. I am considering just getting my bis trinket first before i get the axe. But potentially i could get axe in the coming reset and then i'd be unable to upgrade it for a week at least.

I'm considering to still do that thow as i have to craft fyralath first anyway and i got decent weaponry until then.

[south kayak]

There's no reason to

[rough bough]

we pressing legy always outside cds righto?

[leaden lake]

Ok thanks in anyway

[modest condor]

mostly when avatar isnt up

[warm crag]

and then we were still the best spec in the fucking game

oh sorry i mean arms

[modest condor]

if you're gonna wait for reck to fall off too you could end up delaying it for multiple minutes at which point you're losing damage

[warm crag]

lmao

best class in the game

[rough bough]

tyvm!

[mossy fox]

but what if you have 50% deathrate on leggo cast

[modest condor]

then your name is critcake

[mossy fox]

fuck

[shell jackal]

[modest condor]

is that what they ment with you killing fury?

[mossy fox]

[modest condor]

you die so often from lego

[shell jackal]

i do it as well press leggo > swirly on floor > not cancelling my cast lmao > dead

[south kayak]

btw

[subtle lagoon]

Mouthbreather strats

[south kayak]

sometimes i press leggo

and it cancels itself

the fuck

[shell jackal]

it cancels if you move right? if you're an A-D-A-D spammer it might cancel more often than you realise

[modest condor]

happens if the enemy dies

[subtle lagoon]

Happens to me if I use mid charge

[modest condor]

you cant move during lego

[subtle lagoon]

or if enemy dies

[modest condor]

or mid charge yeah

[shell jackal]

ah you can't okay

i'm literally just griefing then

[subtle lagoon]

Just cancels it and goes on cd

Like a well designed weapon

[shell jackal]

its the worst feeling when you press it as a mob dies

and you just stand there for half a second

[south kayak]

F

[subtle lagoon]

Weapon cancelled pov

[south kayak]

the weapon feels stronger

but that's probably because it's 535 while im 506 ilvl

[shell jackal]

i think it genuinely is warrior brain though, like i think "i'm a plate wielding 2x 2h using healthed-up gigachad i'm not dying to a swirly" and then i die to a swirly but i'm not cancelling that axe cast for anything

[modest condor]

you cant cancel it

[south kayak]

i can count on my hand how many times i died while channeling leggo

[median dust]

My group normally just hears me say "I'm dead" and 99% of the time it's because of the lego. It's a fun little mini game gamble

[warm crag]

theres extremely few things in this game that will kill you if you press legendary and it was 100% not your fault

[south kayak]

[warm crag]

leap is such a ridiculous get out of jail free card

[median dust]

I mean, they could have just made it a moving channel.

[graceful bay]

Ya, just don't die 4hed

[median dust]

imo lock channels are a terrible design.

[narrow delta]

1hour.. 450 messages

[ashen socket]

I haven't died once to channeling the axe

[shell jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-this-is-where-the-fun-begins-anakin-skywalker-revenge-of-the-sith-star-wars-gif-26313467

[ashen socket]

Just think before you use it

[severe juniper]

Is arms now the top spec for a dps warrior?

[ashen socket]

Yes

[south kayak]

yes

[mossy fox]

fury might be dead but the discord sure isnt

[shell jackal]

bro

[south kayak]

sheesh

[ashen socket]

You get alpha yet?

[graceful bay]

Could be worse, could be a target capped melee like enhance hue hue.

[mossy fox]

no

[modest condor]

hue

[barren dagger]

You can get beta tho

[south kayak]

of course the warrior streamer isn't getting alpha invite

shafted

[barren dagger]

Comes with ultra mega edition innit

[ashen socket]

I haven't really looked into alpha at all im just ready for the beta

[chilly fractal]

Make friends with a blizzard employee

[frank dawn]

streamers would just the ruin the spec anyway amirite

[mossy fox]

this is true

[south kayak]

critcake ruined fury s4

[mossy fox]

everything wrong with fury is my fault atm

[barren dagger]

Streamers already ruined fury s4 by voting for s2

[frank dawn]

[modest condor]

i bet he just did it for engagement farming

[south kayak]

critcaca

[mossy fox]

spread the word

[ashen socket]

You should have pushed for season 1

[frank dawn]

lmao

[modest condor]

now he gets all the comments on videos and in stream chats which pumps up his ratings

[willow hazel]

no no no being below augmentation on logs is good for visibility right?!?! They have to make changes if we are at the very bottom of the pile.

[barren dagger]

biz+jev+crit+gucci all agreed in super meeting to shill for s2 because they wanted to play arms for s4

[median dust]

LMAO saw that on stream. Crit's face was like. wat

[south kayak]

On forums ppl say this is ur fault fury is so bad right now, its that true?

[willow hazel]

On forums ppl say this is ur fault fury is so bad right now, its that true?

[mossy fox]

i definitely told blizzard to tune fury super weak and gave them no choice in the matter

[frank dawn]

On forums ppl say this is ur fault fury is so bad right now, its that true?

[ashen socket]

I mean how else were other classes going to shine?

[median dust]

The feared teh Critcakians

[slim coral]

You did say you dono walled Mike yabbara

[mossy fox]

how long do i need to repent for donowalling mike ybarra's friend request

[steep fable]

nah, 20% buffs to rampage, raging blow and execute and fury is right back to being mid

[south kayak]

more like #1

[ashen socket]

What

[slim coral]

Until warrior is fixed

[ashen socket]

20% to just rampage would probably be enough lol

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-orange-cat-staring-gif-4749659952322810298

[mossy fox]

no you dont understand

it's my fault we suck

[slim coral]

How much less damage does fury do in keys does anyone know the rough estimate

[narrow delta]

LMAO for sure not

[unreal onyx]

I blame everything on crit now

and him alone

[steep fable]

oh yeah, my fault
eff you bro!

[south kayak]

no it's his fault and he should gift every viewer a sub and then maybe we'll forgive him

MAYBE

[narrow delta]

its all your fault though

[graceful bay]

Fury pretty competitive in keys still if you ignore the single target.

[south kayak]

[mossy fox]

nah the single target in keys is unironically fine

[dense elbow]

IN KEYS is his keyword, before raiderteam goes ham at it

IN KEYS

[frank dawn]

so we get gapped on dungeon aoe to match other specs "aoe build" single target

kekw

[south kayak]

top kek

[graceful bay]

Compared to arms hybrid? Sims a fair bit lower, no?

[narrow delta]

@mossy fox slow day at work?

[mossy fox]

yep

[chilly fractal]

Can I substitute Crit and blame all of Europe instead? Kinda like a reverse Jesus

[frank dawn]

EU is always the problem

[mossy fox]

but yeah like

an aura buff would go a long way

[dense elbow]

Crit made his bed by mocking fury for saying ST was lackluster with an out of context clip

[frank dawn]

aura buff today for sure

[south kayak]

where is it

[frank dawn]

[slim coral]

400% aura buff surely

[willow hazel]

and everyone without leggo gets it today as well

[narrow delta]

I feel like if they buff fury like 12% ish on ST it will be too strong, but thats about the ST buff it would need to be up to arms?

[dense elbow]

I just want them to buff (4) part, so it feels good to press - also would solve tuning issues

[narrow delta]

on AoE it would be too strong

[ashen socket]

I would actually play my alts if I got the leggo for free

[narrow delta]

though its prob more than 12% behind if I think about it

on ST

[mossy fox]

i think the ret treatment of 3% aura buffs for several weeks until we're decent, and then out of nowhere giga buff multiple abilities would be cool

[frank dawn]

20% rampage buff lets go

[narrow delta]

hahaha

[dense elbow]

3% treatment gives me too strong SL vibes, I dont wanna go back

I dont wanna go back to the maw

please

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

[frank dawn]

6% aura buff, then buff BT and OF. Incite violence

[south kayak]

the problem is, the ret devs are excited, passionate devs, i don't know about warrior

[narrow delta]

what was your sim numbers on ST for fury vs arms?

[chilly fractal]

How about we buff the 4p where we just have guaranteed crits and maybe it reduces the CD of Odyn’s Fury by something like 2.5 seconds everytime bloodthirst crits

[slim coral]

This is the energy I like to see

[chilly fractal]

Something like that

[dense elbow]

Stop that Mobbo

[mossy fox]

385 vs 334 iirc

[dense elbow]

let OF be

Anyhow, even with CDR on OF; without the dam amp, it would be useless

[mossy fox]

thats gearing around arms tho but still

[chilly fractal]

That’s why I’m saying they just add it on

[dense elbow]

Ok, hear me out - what if they add the 51% damage buff to OF baseline, and add the CDR on the (4) part?

[narrow delta]

somewhere between 12-15% seems about right then

it is what it is

[glad coyote]

then issue is if you buff our ST you buff our aoe, cause of WW

[mossy fox]

idk if buffing up to arms is right

[south kayak]

our aoe also needs help

[narrow delta]

Arms is really good tbf

[south kayak]

don't @ me

if we do 5 target

we should excel at it

[chilly fractal]

Your right Fury should be buffed ahead of Arms

[frank dawn]

yeah it's not like our aoe is top tier either

[mossy fox]

arms is among the top 3, and the top 3 are quite far ahead

[south kayak]

arms getting nerfed

and fury not getting buffed

blizzard pov

[mossy fox]

sounds like a good timeline

[narrow delta]

Nah, I doubt they will tune anything on live

its all TWW

[south kayak]

I think they will

[chilly fractal]

Blizzard POV is actually “How do we get people to actually give a shit about Delves?”

[south kayak]

Delves isn't designed for people like you

[narrow delta]

https://tenor.com/view/you-see-it-is-part-plan-explain-gif-20448886

[chilly fractal]

But it would be fun if I gave a shit to do them

So there better be some mounts!

[sullen basin]

Doing the highest level delves will unlock playing arms as an option, that's the reward

[grizzled granite]

is using 2x2 tier set viable at all ?

[dense elbow]

I would just use old (4), but ye - you can play it

S3 can still do some dam

[steep fable]

This is the way until getting all 4 at least to heroic levels

[dense elbow]

I just like pressing OF, dont do like me - go full s4 asap, for giga m+ dps

[subtle lagoon]

I'm getting 4 set next week

[chilly fractal]

I’ll prolly end up switching sets not next week but the following Tuesday… too many crests to dedicate to meaningful upgrades like trinkets and other crafted piece

[grizzled granite]

raidbots sims 2x2 lower even tho +15 ilvl. and s4 4 set sims just +2k or so. gg

[chilly fractal]

Next week a young 535 Augury that’s what we’re looking for

[spring fox]

Delves sound fun 🤷

[dense elbow]

If Delves are content I can just jump in, do some of and then come back later when bored. Perhaps good for alts leveling, then I am all for it

If they do a Thorgast with it tho.... I will hate it

Good content turned sour and shit, in the name of forced participation

[unreal onyx]

magmammoth scale sims better than it performs imo

thing did like 1.5% overall in a key just now

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1jMUL61iw7CvWZgQHEdFjv

definetly not 3%

[marsh kiln]

Got mine in 2days

Got 3 tokens from n voti / hc+n aberrus

Bought 1piece for the token, sold 2 for 400k

Got another piece for clearing heroic

And catalysted 2 pieces

[marsh kiln]

Also whats the point in nerfing arms

When the top2 will be ahead and not nerfed

[dense elbow]

Anvil sims as a 15k upgrade, Aug a 9k - think I got to get Anvil.
(not everyone got the luck of the gods, like you do)

[mossy fox]

anvil is only good for ST and for fights that last 5 mins+ tho

[subtle lagoon]

literally couldn't get a single tier piece from raid

normal/hc

[mossy fox]

or in m+ if you can maintain max stacks

[subtle lagoon]

both weeks

[spring fox]

That very much sounds like how it is. Hop in solo or with friends whenever you want. Get gear, but it won't be the best gear in the game. They've also said they're working on balancing the rate of gear so people don't just spam delves to gear up and ignore everything else

[dense elbow]

If that is so, then Devles will just be a good addition to the game

[marsh kiln]

Its good because i wont need to wait 732minutes

To do a fucking dungeon

On an alt

[south kayak]

YO CRIT

[unreal onyx]

I hope delves are not mandatory

[south kayak]

what's your ilvl

[unreal onyx]

like torghast

[subtle lagoon]

I'm getting quick invites thankfully

[south kayak]

they're not

they said so plentyo f times

[unreal onyx]

I will believe it once I see it

[spring fox]

Also Brann's level will be warband wide. So kick ass on your main, then sit back with a whiskey while he demolishes everything on your alts

[unreal onyx]

I bet you need to grind them for some wacky currency for crafting or smthn

[south kayak]

Really? you don't believe that? lmao

[unreal onyx]

I don't believe anything blizz says until it is on live

[spring fox]

What you get from Delves is gear

I think they said up to +5s ilvl

Only way it'll be "mandatory" is if you're someone who must exhaust every possible avenue of gear and unlock every single great vault slot for every type of content

[dense elbow]

Well, Thoragast was also just drop-in content, till it went through the upper managment and annalytics departments

then it turned into the bile of ruined dripping matter it became

Never trust 100% blizz wont just do that on launch, with no warning

Delves are not safe.

It can happen to anything!

[spring fox]

This has been designed expressly as something for casual/world players to be able to get good gear from vs whatever they can get via world quests

[frank dawn]

It's gonna be just like M+. You get currency and gear, up to a point. That's it.

[spring fox]

Yeah, currency being whatever they are gonna call flightstones and crests

Probably will be amazing for getting some gear for alts to be able to hop in keys without random dungeons too

[dense elbow]

World Shards, and Azerithestones

[dense elbow]

gz if you won it

[ashen socket]

Im on my hunter lol

[dense elbow]

then no gz for u

[ashen socket]

Meh

I dont want it lol

Just shocked to see 3

[spring fox]

Btw, what is the recommended trinket for shorter ST fights? Anvil and Brand both need long fights...and they're already pretty dang short. Augury already being a given

[ashen socket]

P sure oce or icon are good

since ur raid will probably have all the stats

and if you dont have either I think its idol of trampling hoofs

[spring fox]

Hrmm... "Let fly!" Time it is then 😭

[ashen socket]

Thats just me going off of bloodmallet sims though so

I could be wrong

[dense elbow]

Aug+Hoofs aint bad

Hoofs and Aug carrying me hard atm

[compact flint]

Anyone tested out different talents than what Wowhead has for fury?

[spring fox]

Okay, much more important question

[spring fox]

Is that your actual kitty?

[dense elbow]

Nein, friends - it a good kitty and best kitty

[spring fox]

Just a random best kitty?

[dense elbow]

She got the bestest purr's

[summer grove]

I'm not entirely sure what other build for Fury around that's going to be close.

[spring fox]

You can always sim various builds, but tier sets are gonna limit what we can do

[dense elbow]

RA build is not that far off, you can go OF heavy too, as long you dont take TT. Suboptimal, but gets the job done. Then you got things like spear focus vs roar and so on that pushes profiles

Just have fun with it

(if I can do 10s as arms sword and board, you can safely play around with fury talents)

[chilly fractal]

Part of me was considering Brand since that’s 14k DPS Augury is like 9k but Augury is good all the time in everything and brand has that ramp time

[dense elbow]

Brand needs so long to ramp tho

fights last what 4-5min if not less

Might be worth on Tindral - maybe

[long stone]

are there invoramations for buffs ?

[chilly fractal]

Brand was bad on Tindral

[marsh kiln]

I got anvil in vault

[dense elbow]

Brand did decent for me, as I had 4 devos and 2 demo locks.

[marsh kiln]

But i took tier instead

That i catalysted

[dense elbow]

Roots was dead before bombers hit the ground :v

[chilly fractal]

Oof

[marsh kiln]

It was champion anyways

Dogshit

Also 1min cd

[chilly fractal]

Oh

[marsh kiln]

Which is also

Dogshit

[spring fox]

Brand needs it to proc a bunch to be good. Tindral is long because of all the downtime

[ashen socket]

Won it on my bm hunter lmfao

[marsh kiln]

So basically

Double dogshit = not good

[chilly fractal]

The only dogshit part is champion

[dense elbow]

Weird, stacked fast enough for me. Prob just RNG lady luck

[spring fox]

Turns out, best DPS for fury is legendary+shield. Talent around that. /s

[marsh kiln]

If u want more dps i can tell u a secret

[dense elbow]

Shieldslam for Fury needs better AP value - this is a fact

[spring fox]

I do love that we can do 2H weapon+shield as fury

[marsh kiln]

Open up talent interface -> specialization -> Click Arms

Instant dps increase

[spring fox]

Actually is worthless. But love that we can

[subtle lagoon]

Accelerating sandglass looks like it's goated

[spring fox]

Instant depression increase too

[marsh kiln]

Why?

Arms playstyle is more fun

Lol

[spring fox]

Despise arms

[marsh kiln]

Also

Icon looks best

Blue axe

[compact flint]

Well i been testing by taking away Onslaught for Odyns fury. Theres not any difference i see. I changed Shockwave for Seismic Reverberation and got Second wind as well. Noticed a higher difference in ST training dummy..

[chilly fractal]

Axe ain’t blue

[spring fox]

If I wanted to just use a single large weapon, I'd play ret

[subtle lagoon]

Fury icon > Arms icon

[chilly fractal]

Ret at least has long arms

[ashen river]

Hey guys , is it normal that "Might of the Ocean" 489 sims better than "puzzlebox" 506?

[chilly fractal]

Arms has short arms

[dense elbow]

Sounds about right, Ava is on 1.5min and with TT that packs quite a punch for a while.

[marsh kiln]

Its Blue u just havent played Arms enough

[chilly fractal]

Might if the ocean owns and is up every avatar so I’m not shocked

[marsh kiln]

Fury has a 1inch wingspan

[eternal sundial]

fury icon is a ret spell

sir

[marsh kiln]

Thats why it has smf talent

[chilly fractal]

Ret spell is the fury icon

[dense elbow]

Mobbo or Pagan, can either of ya get a discord pic? I see the same guy spamming text - even if I know it aint :C

[fading chasm]

I miss you bby.

[chilly fractal]

Never

[dense elbow]

worth a shot

[subtle lagoon]

exactly, the other way around

[ember apex]

ngl, i didnt like pressing odyns fury it felt kinda soft

it needs a diff sound effect

and a stronger animation

like a mixture of like condemn and onslaught

[chilly fractal]

Dancing Blades feels good

[ember apex]

whats that shit do again

like more AA damage or something?

[dense elbow]

Attackspeed on autos, yep

[frank dawn]

have OF open the Bifrost and have flaming Valarjar explode around you

this will surely not cause visual clutter

[dense elbow]

OF only needs some fireeffects added, and it is done

[mossy fox]

spawn a recolored nightfae defile too

[ember apex]

what le fugg is bitfrost

[dense elbow]

The thing from Marvel thing

[ember apex]

oh im not a marvel andy

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/bifrost-heimdall-thor-gif-23699177

this effect

[ember apex]

just like full screen rainbow takeover?

[dense elbow]

yep

[chilly fractal]

I thought that was the loading screen to Phantasy Star Online for a moment

God I miss that game

[ember apex]

i know a dev for that game

he said he had depression from making f2p trash

his words

[chilly fractal]

The original PSO on Dreamcast I paid monthly for

Then Xbox

[ember apex]

oh he's a dev for pso2 i think

[chilly fractal]

On top of XBL you had to pay

PSO2 is trash

[marsh kiln]

Here

[ember apex]

yeah its some sega anime nonsense yeah

he prob didnt work on original pso

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-lost-stupid-dumb-slow-gif-23142815

[marsh kiln]

Console gamers

[ember apex]

f2p games

exception is like PoE

[marsh kiln]

Imagine paying for online

[ember apex]

id rather pay for games than play f2p

[marsh kiln]

I mean i have 930 games on steam

And i only play 5

[hasty path]

Based

[ember apex]

i need to check my lib real quick

where do u see the number of titles?

[marsh kiln]

View profile

[marsh kiln]

I have 4 steam accounts, 1 has 930games

Others 30-80

Then i have 5 more with csgo prime for smurfing

Lol

I cant remember how many $$$ i spent for steam lvl with tf2 keys lol

Got up to lvl273

As far as i can remember i could get 30sets for 1csgo key back in the day

So it was cheaper

[ember apex]

i cant believe CSGO got away w/ doing a sequel w/ no new weapons, no new game modes, no new maps and basically updating smoke grenades and some network latency stuff

idk why the community lets valve get away w/ taht shit

[marsh kiln]

I quit csgo after cs2 released

[ember apex]

not that i dont like steam as a platform

[marsh kiln]

I had 5k in skins that i sold right after

Hype was real

[ember apex]

the fact that call of duty has a better weapon system is crazy

valve could do anything

and they choose to make the fucking R8 and not have anything new

[hasty path]

Why would they change what is clearly a winning formula

[marsh kiln]

Csgo is all about skins for the majority of players

[hasty path]

CS is literally bigger than ever

[marsh kiln]

It has a unique skin system

[ember apex]

fuck skins

add new weapons

new maps

[marsh kiln]

Floats / patterns / sticker crafts

[ember apex]

new game modes

same bs w/o iterating and improving

imagine not being to change the scope on the awp

and shit like that

crazy

[marsh kiln]

I still play 800x600 4:3

Some things will never change lol

[ember apex]

idk cs has a ton of potential and thats why i get heated about it

[marsh kiln]

I didnt like valorant at all

Tarkov got fucksd

Tarkov was one of my fav games

[narrow delta]

Talking about a "CS", which is not colossus smash

[marsh kiln]

I had EoD since release

Now they released some bullshit 250$ edition

Sure upgrade for me only costs 90$

But still its p2w

Offline mode for 250$ and all the extra bullshit

I didnt know Lost Ark was p2w when it was hyped af on release

After lvl51 i just quit when i realized it was p2w lol

[ember apex]

bro SAME

i bought the pre-order pack i thought i was buying the game

[marsh kiln]

I just didnt bother going for 60

[ember apex]

and it game out and it was free i was like wait what

[marsh kiln]

I bought the pack for 10 or 20$ cant remember

One that was OP

For start

[ember apex]

lost ark is like the biggest wasted potential ive ever seen in a game

i bought $60 pack when they announced it

[marsh kiln]

Its a korean game

[ember apex]

came w/ 3 head red dog

so

i dont discriminate

[marsh kiln]

Their entire playerbase is all about p2w

[ember apex]

idk if thats accurate