there will be buffs for sure
#fury
manic gulch
chrome plover
i dont think the point is ease of playing funnily enough...
obtuse steeple
if you are an old time warrior player you would have sensed it since burning Crusade , top figure warrior representation in a DECENT GUILD was arms , if you lived that era you would have experienced many children back then play fury but tbh the No.1 warrior in the guild was arms ( you can even ask critcake how prestigious it was to be a good arms back then) , there are many figure-head arms warriors . now even if you notice the gameplay of arms it's more responsible and coordinated in a groups especially in m+ like i am sure No one can match the efficiency of an 80% arms warrior like CritCake . warriors opt for the fury specialization due to its popularity and perceived simplicity in managing various situations However, mastering the intricacies of the arms specialization requires a deeper understanding of timing, positioning, and cooldown management. CritCake's exceptional performance as an arms warrior highlights the significance of experience and skill in maximizing the potential of this specialization.
oblique trail
holy
long smelt
cant wait for rampage dmg and crit to be up from 12 to 13%
manic gulch
how prestigious it was to be a good arms back then
lol
covert blaze
Roks moment
long smelt
thanks blizz
flat river
cant wait for rampage dmg and crit to be up from 12 to 13%
real
slim coral
where is the mango man when we need him
dense elbow
there will be buffs for sure
Just make t4 sim better than t3 with s good margin, and 90% are happy.
Nerfing s3 would be an option if Fury wasn't kinda weak atm.
eternal sundial
@dire badge annual return
white quest
long smelt
they shoulda done a rework and fix st
flat river
if you are an old time warrior player you would have sensed it since burning Cru...
@mossy fox how much did u pay him to say that
covert blaze
if you are an old time warrior player you would have sensed it since burning Cru...
This is the worst thing I've read in a while, great job
eternal sundial
<@235809563490779136> how much did u pay him to say that
I had a dream where @covert blaze was my best friend and we kissed at blizzcon
slim coral
@mossy fox i saw your youtube you have been playing and recording raids since 10 years ago , can you explain me how do you earn your money because clearly the only explanation i came into is that your mother and dad are political vietnamese citzens applied for asylum in uk for better life and thus you grew up as a famous player whereas if your parent decided to stay in vietnam you would be harvesting farms for mango by now
covert blaze
I had a dream where <@235857431492558848> was my best friend and we kissed at bl...
HAHAHA
manic gulch
I had a dream where <@235857431492558848> was my best friend and we kissed at bl...
definitely a dream if you did it at blizzcon
obtuse steeple
<@235809563490779136> how much did u pay him to say that
he didn't pay me anything , CritCake's results speak for themselves. With 12 years of experience as an arms warrior, his unmatched efficiency in battle sets him apart from the rest.
eternal sundial
But he's only 0.25 revvez
oblique trail
Truly philosophical Raven, thank you for the insight
flat river
I had a dream where <@235857431492558848> was my best friend and we kissed at bl...
lmao
eternal sundial
@oblique trail ya benzai, famous warrior stormforged
flat river
@covert blaze is this true
chrome plover
mods can we get a roleplay channel
flat river
did u kiss
chrome plover
i wanna do warrior roleplay with this guy
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> ya benzai, famous warrior stormforged
@eternal sundial ya phil
river elm
Yo guys any topic speaking about the fury 4P and how to use it well on raid and on M+ ?
obtuse steeple
i'm amazed phil is not a yellow name by now
long smelt
Yo guys any topic speaking about the fury 4P and how to use it well on raid and ...
u keep using s3 till tww
obtuse steeple
no connections ?
eternal sundial
Yo guys any topic speaking about the fury 4P and how to use it well on raid and ...
Spam rampage basically
slim coral
Yo guys any topic speaking about the fury 4P and how to use it well on raid and ...
use everything on cd prio Rampage use bt at 100
eternal sundial
no connections ?
Too much trolling
slim coral
gg
river elm
use everything on cd prio Rampage use bt at 100
Why does my sim use it at 4 stack most of the time ?
chrome plover
Yo guys any topic speaking about the fury 4P and how to use it well on raid and ...
check the wowhead guide it's updated with all the season 4 stuff, you can bring more specific questions back here
eternal sundial
Why does my sim use it at 4 stack most of the time ?
Cuz that's when it's 95%
covert blaze
Phil too based for his own good
oblique trail
Why does my sim use it at 4 stack most of the time ?
Because that'd be when it's >=95% chance to crit
chrome plover
Why does my sim use it at 4 stack most of the time ?
it uses it when it has 95% + chance to crit
slim coral
Why does my sim use it at 4 stack most of the time ?
use what are 4 stacks
oblique trail
BT
eternal sundial
use what are 4 stacks
DN
covert blaze
use what are 4 stacks
slim coral
oh I'm not sure what sims mean by 4 stacks
obtuse steeple
This is the worst thing I've read in a while, great job
ofc because you are new , where were you at the burning cursade ?
slim coral
but just get a wa to track it
mossy fox
doomed eternally
dense elbow
Why does my sim use it at 4 stack most of the time ?
Tier (4) is used when you reach 100% crit, 40% crit, 4 stacks and 20% reck I guess.
eternal sundial
doomed eternally
Surely stream that game again
eternal sundial
I mean alpha
🐺
covert blaze
ofc because you are new , where were you at the burning cursade ?
My response was filtered by the auto mod, consider yourself lucky
compact siren
@oblique trail Hosen status?
oblique trail
Armour kitted but unequipped
clever path
My response was filtered by the auto mod, consider yourself lucky
Common Automod L
compact siren
Thank you
eternal sundial
My response was filtered by the auto mod, consider yourself lucky
Screenshot and post
That's why i normally do
clever path
Like a based pvp chad
covert blaze
Screenshot and post
I dismissed the message, too late
summer quail
if you are an old time warrior player you would have sensed it since burning Cru...
is this a copypasta?
mossy fox
brand new one
oblique trail
it's fresh from the oven
eternal sundial
is this a copypasta?
This is not the paste
covert blaze
is this a copypasta?
New one
summer quail
lessgo
mossy fox
the perfect omurice
clever belfry
@oblique trail fury op???
chrome plover
nerf fury
clever belfry
prio god x
obtuse steeple
My response was filtered by the auto mod, consider yourself lucky
You belong to that new generation-one that didn’t experience the earlier era, yet you still show respect for others. It’s impressive
oblique trail
Savour the experience
mossy fox
Am I in an anime right now
yep
fallen ginkgo
What is happening
your domain is expanding
flat river
None of that <@451392607495520257> cook
huh
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> fury op???
By comparsion Arms is so small..
Arms needs more buffs
mossy fox
i need to get lego upgrade today so i can compare to andaw
eternal sundial
this is warrior discord
@warm crag OBLTIERATION commended
tender cairn
oblique trail
Best I've had as Fury in Brackenhide pre-lego was 485k
But also had a Destro and Devoker doing like 80k more than me
So not much point in existing..
mossy fox
i did 612 as arms yesterday in aa with my 509 lego
eternal sundial
Devoker fair
eternal sundial
things still die too fast
Key too low in an 11 tyra surely fort better......
oblique trail
Haven't done AA since 4set
mossy fox
fury is kinda nice this week tho ngl
chrome plover
I did an AA but i didnt have berserkers torment or unbridled specced
eternal sundial
I will aquire many io points this week and hit the coveted 2500 and log off threshhold
mossy fox
pugs are so scared to pull big
eternal sundial
pugs are so scared to pull big
Ye
oblique trail
Nothing feels worse than having Puzzie + all CDs ready and the tank pulls 3 mobs instead of 10
mossy fox
yeah fury suffers from that too but i feel it's even worse as arms?
chrome plover
the art of puzzlebox is to mindcontrol your tank to do a big pull while channeling
oblique trail
It might be worse for Arms, I don't know
covert blaze
Can't wait to not use puzzlebox anymore
oblique trail
It smells for both specs, but Arms at least has big ST damage so you can quickly bring a target into Exe
eternal sundial
yeah fury suffers from that too but i feel it's even worse as arms?
The worst is if you know the pull isnt enough to farm cdr back
Feels rancid
For arms idrc just wb sweep and bang
mossy fox
It might be worse for Arms, I don't know
think it's mostly cause you know you can pull like 2m dps on double/triple pulls with everything up
oblique trail
oh yeah for sure
digital wadi
Can I replace onslaught with anything?
dense elbow
OF, but it is a DPS loss
long smelt
nope u cant
covert blaze
and the moment you go fuck it and send all on a single pack
Pulls before vexamus moment
digital wadi
Alright, thanks!
dusk dawn
Yeah you can replace it with mortal strike
covert blaze
dense elbow
I see what you did there, I hate it
long smelt
but hes not wrong
dense elbow
That is why I hate it
Well, we talking m+ tho, fury is fine - so not really true
OF on gigapulls also work out over OS
long smelt
its sad that fine is the standard
dense elbow
Fine is all what we been? Wdum
covert blaze
Kitty do you smell toast perchance
dense elbow
Nah, auto correct just keeps swapping words
mossy fox
onslaught is a big feelgood button imo
eternal sundial
onslaught is a big feelgood button imo
Unfix it...
chrome plover
same
dense elbow
Ain't wrong, that is why you bring it with OF
mossy fox
insta enrage, hits hard, can proc reck and boosts your next rampage
mossy fox
Ain't wrong, that is why you bring it with OF
without tenderize you lose half of that tho
dense elbow
I know, but OF is my calling
mossy fox
but yes i cooked a bit with both for fun in s2 and will prolly do it again this season
dont think it's ever better tho, but it's nice to play different things
dense elbow
OF is still at best a DPS even, probably a loss from tendy. On Tyra it is a loss outright.
But, on big pulls there is value
eternal sundial
dont think it's ever better tho, but it's nice to play different things
The 2 talent = full aoe curse
oblique trail
Loboz build when
mossy fox
Unfix it...
unironically think this bug was pretty cool
dense elbow
OF 51% base dam increase when 
mossy fox
full dam on cleaved onslaught felt very satisfying
modest condor
my favourite bug was the one after they first tried to fix it
mossy fox
man
modest condor
where it would just pick a random target to do 100% damage to
and that target may not necessarily be currently alive in the group you're fighting
dense elbow
Thought you meant when it cleaved 100% half of the time
modest condor
no im pretty sure what you were seeing is that it wasnt cleaving 100% half the time, but rather it did 50% to your main target half of the time
dense elbow
Did we ever confirm it hitting twice for 100%? Was one of the more fun rumors
quiet geyser
Dude i remember when i first mentioned the onslaught bug in here. Every1 thought i was crazy
modest condor
not sure what you mean
dense elbow
Was some talk about OS hitting the same target twice when cleaved
quiet geyser
No
forest owl
what would a 508 s4 fury warrior be expected to do in a +8 algethar, roughly? like 500k or something
dense elbow
Just a rumor then, oh well
quiet geyser
It just cleaved for 100% instead of 50%. Then they tried to "fix it", by making it only hit 50% on main target often
dense elbow
what would a 508 s4 fury warrior be expected to do in a +8 algethar, roughly? li...
Depends a lot on pulls, so we have no idea what to expect from your runs. If you keep up with the others in there, you are doing fine
forest owl
Depends a lot on pulls, so we have no idea what to expect from your runs. If you...
i see, the grp i was in was pretty conservative for the most part normal pulls, tried pulling all at tree boss and wiped lol the ret pally 506 was 100k below me 😮
so many rets these days i cant go into a key without 1 being there
dense elbow
Rets are popular as they are fun to play and was top end last patch. So ya gonna see a ton more
As long you blasting meters, you are doing it right. If you start falling behind, over and over, take logs to #449510248579858432 for help
flat river
You are being obliterated
can't
tender cairn
half of their abilities just use default pipe drop sound istg
flat river
i got the sauce in the pan so just let me cook
tender cairn
clever path
Good
tender cairn
dire badge
<@160079763686293504> annual return
LETSFUCKINGSHIT
long smelt
<#148898695696482305> more like #deadspec
how can u say deadspec when we beating aug
lets gooooooo
take that aug
long smelt
was gonna switch to aug but now
tender cairn
🙏
clever path
Aug is a better spec cause it lets arms do this
modest condor
watched an spriest end an uldaman with like 900k overall last night
clever path
watched an spriest end an uldaman with like 900k overall last night
I can say with confidence that priest wasnt Kylechu
modest condor
mossy fox
watched an spriest end an uldaman with like 900k overall last night
ye that sounds about right lmao
prime root
Ya from what I've seen spriest, frost mage, bm blasting that overall
hardy cargo
watched an spriest end an uldaman with like 900k overall last night
Damn that’s it? They need a buff
tender cairn
tender cairn
nah destro pumps
(twas a jest, a silly even)
clever path
>server shutdown
they're buffing fury
empty mirage
>server shutdown
they're buffing fury
final birch
nah destro pumps
Destro is nuts
shrewd ore
these critcake hate threads are pretty funny tho
final birch
But destro doesnt bring 5% stamina
mossy fox
these critcake hate threads are pretty funny tho
someone's gotta be the scapegoat
chrome plover
I love critcake, I think critcake is very cute and smart
shrewd ore
someone's gotta be the scapegoat
chrome plover
holy moly
mossy fox
mad wowhead commenter is mad
prime root
That's wild critcake damn
Haters gonna hate
The way I see it we can only go up from here, it's the last patch of the season, it's a game, it's about enjoying yourself more than anything. When I have friends beating me on the meters I just remind them my parse is orange while theirs is like green or somethin
barren dagger
Mouthbreather innit
regal mulch
New here, wanted other peoples input if raidbot is lying or not when it comes to the " new " tier being a dps loss.
subtle lagoon
Funny how they blame crit and not blizzard who designed the damn set and can tune it accordingly
mossy fox
sorry
prime root
The players fault!
chrome plover
New here, wanted other peoples input if raidbot is lying or not when it comes to...
the robot cannot lie
it tells you the results based on the information you give it
there are situations where the new tier set can be a dps loss
regal mulch
Of course but we have had problems with it in the past, I was holding out hope it was lying
chrome plover
if your set pieces are champion track or lower, it probably is
barren dagger
You must use brain when adjusting robot’s settings
regal mulch
From 489 prior tier to 528 new tier sims to be a 17k loss
mossy fox
New here, wanted other peoples input if raidbot is lying or not when it comes to...
getting the new s4 tierset usually puts you at the same ST dps as your old s3 set, depending on what s4 ilvl you got
chrome plover
From 489 prior tier to 528 new tier sims to be a 17k loss
are you changing talents?
mossy fox
17k loss sounds like wrong talents
chrome plover
riding the skyhold rollercoaster
dire badge
it really do be like that
empty mirage
if youre geared the s4 set really aint that bad, im at 511 rn and i can keep up decently well
chrome plover
im ngl I did an AA with a really good dh/spriest from my previous guild
and i got bodied
but in pugs it feels normal
prime root
Ya got to 513 last night after the lego fix opened the dam, I'm blasting some 10-13 feels amazing so far. Waiting for tyrannical week to see how bad st feels
regal mulch
Oh my god, how did I forget to change talents first , dang I dropped the ball, literally been beating my head on my desk
Thanks guys.... simple
empty mirage
yeah if you have actual skilled people ur fucked but in a pug ur fine
prime root
AA is so much fun the first boss with cds lined up is chefs kiss
The way I see it, if ur in a key and ur 3rd on dps ur key is probably going well at least
prime root
Mmmmhmmm!
empty mirage
throw in a lil avatar too
prime root
Idk if yall play with sound on but during burst it sounds wild and so cool
wild mica
Trusted them when they said “we will tune the sets, ignore dmge”
There is 20 years of precedent showing this was not going to happen
give EU the set they voted for and give us S3 in NA, thanks
chrome plover
dire badge
prime root
hollow elk
i mean how many times have blizzard said " we are listening and "
only to unsip and fuck us one more time
covert blaze
Trusted them when they said “we will tune the sets, ignore dmge”
2% crit chance
Poggers
torpid sand
CRIT CHANCE!!!!!
empty mirage
guys i just talked to Johnny blizzard were getting nerfed
hollow elk
xfd
dire badge
deleter damn u
mossy fox
Ya got to 513 last night after the lego fix opened the dam, I'm blasting some 10...
fury ST is not bad in m+
prime root
It doesn't feel so to me
empty mirage
i was averaging like 300k st ish in a 10 uld
prime root
But I attributed a lot of that feel to being fort week and not doing that high of keys yet
marsh kiln
tier feels so shit
chrome plover
they tuned arms set too and I hear no one complaining about that, just confirmation bias of "blizzard bad" innit
prime root
Yarp
empty mirage
tier feels fun as hell
hollow elk
buff fury. or nerf everyone
marsh kiln
i mean sure im doing more dps compared to me being 488ilvl vs 496ilvl
around 100k difference in overalls
chrome plover
blaming voters/streamers is very weirdge when it's all on blizzard
marsh kiln
but tier feels like shit
hollow elk
i swear we are going to be on the next expansion and we are still gona be sore from s4 lol
novel perch
But this fury tier seems to be good
chrome plover
it's fun to play imo yeah
novel perch
You are just lazy after 2 button annihilator build
dire badge
it’s a Mickey Mouse tier anyways
barren dagger
I went away for 2 weeks expecting some kind of buff. Check notes/wlogs and we’re dumpster
marsh kiln
i actually enjoyed s1 more
chrome plover
it’s a Mickey Mouse tier anyways
real talk i wasted 7 billion crests and i dont even feel bad about it
just gaming with the boys
mossy fox
But I attributed a lot of that feel to being fort week and not doing that high o...
fury's ST is decent in m+ because we barely lose ST when speccing for aoe, but yeah that also means when we go full ST, we cant keep up
marsh kiln
s3 felt the best and big bursts
novel perch
I am ilvl 505, did 351k overall on nokund offensive +10, no aug in party
hollow elk
S4 is mYtHiC sEaSon AnYwAys
marsh kiln
s2 feels slow when it comes to damage
chrome plover
every season is mythic season
chilly fractal
At least I got rank 1 mythic Kazzara for Fury… nobody look at my DPS compared to arms though
hollow elk
i dunno man i threw away my shield as s4 started
marsh kiln
I am ilvl 505, did 351k overall on nokund offensive +10, no aug in party
i did 380k at 496 in neltharus2
mossy fox
no point in playing shield spec when vdh exists
novel perch
I feel tanky as hell in dungeons, tho my highest key is +10 as tank
kind bolt
does new tier sim worse in aoe situations or just me
novel perch
But yeah, the utility is dogshit compared to vdh
hollow elk
no point in playing shield spec when vdh exists
vdh is such a difference from like everything else. the pulls a good dh can do is kinda ridiculous to see
hollow elk
like my groups main tank is a druid and when we pug a tank cuz he cant play and we get a good dh is like... i love my druid friend but holy shit vdh are just so fucking good lol
novel perch
Everyrhing in vdh toolkit is just godlike compared to warr
novel perch
Yesterday I learned that holy pala
hollow elk
ssslappy hamds
safe cradle
VDH is just severely OP currently. And I feel like fury is just being constantly nerfed into the ground. I am excited that we are FINALLY getting blade storm back tho.
novel perch
Man did 24k dps overall
prime root
fury's ST is decent in m+ because we barely lose ST when speccing for aoe, but y...
For sure ya. It drives me crazy in raid swapping around and then not being able to swap back to aoe in time for trash, stuck in combat and you wanna help but can't 🤣
hollow elk
VDH is just severely OP currently. And I feel like fury is just being constantly...
nobody has nerfed fury at all since shadowlands tho.
safe cradle
nobody has nerfed fury at all since shadowlands tho.
Well from when I last played in battle to now I feel extremely nerfed.
dire badge
he’s right nerf fury
novel perch
Arms seems fine now, removing IP from rotation seems such a nice change
novel perch
That I acctualy may play that spec
marsh kiln
to do low dam
hollow elk
ah yes the back in my time in || post random old expansion || we used to rock
mossy fox
we are tuned weak, therefore we are weak
hollow elk
at least next expansion we get to de dust the good old > charge >bladestorm > release meme
arms currently using it
novel perch
Make smf great again
safe cradle
ah yes the back in my time in || post random old expansion || we used to rock
No it has nothing to do with back in my time. It’s just from the time I played last, to now it feels different.
marsh kiln
ah yes the back in my time in || post random old expansion || we used to rock
wrath/legion
hollow elk
fury has never been hot garbage. we always floating on the b- which usually net us minor buffs and not a single nerf slap
tender cairn
back in bc smf was meta /s
tender cairn
(that's the joke)
marsh kiln
i kinda hate being melee main sometimes
novel perch
Sad thing is, I made a meta dps aswell, shadow priest for keys, and with 478 ilvl and no set that fuckin class pulls of 800k dps on pack of I wont fuck up the rotation
marsh kiln
and having 1inch range
hollow elk
i mean arms is doing that
frank dawn
but for real tho, why do so many DF dungeons mobs have dog shit hitboxes
hollow elk
way more than that actually
tender cairn
i kinda hate being melee main sometimes
warrior* glares at paladins and surv hunters
safe cradle
fury has never been hot garbage. we always floating on the b- which usually net ...
I never said it was hot garbage lol.
marsh kiln
warrior* glares at paladins and surv hunters
they have big range tho
marsh kiln
like ret pala doesnt even play like melee
hollow elk
they have big range tho
warrior remake should make all abilities. an asortment of cones in front of you for the different skills
marsh kiln
feels more like a fkin melee/range hybrid
hollow elk
some of the hitboxes in this game are downright toxic to melee
safe cradle
100% agree ^
marsh kiln
rogue has a talent for extra range
hollow elk
giant ass dude with 5 foot long club > gotta hit right between his balls to reach him
marsh kiln
and they use kitchen knifes
hollow elk
little dragon > you can hit him from 5 feet away
marsh kiln
has 3x longer range
vital jewel
baze heads STAND UP
slim coral
baze heads STAND UP
marsh kiln
giant ass dude with 5 foot long club > gotta hit right between his balls to reac...
then u have mages and priests afking
no need to use movement buttons
slim coral
it's the perfect time to be a baze believer
slim coral
your item level should be based on your skill
chrome plover
fuck this
wild mica
probably your best bet, i wouldnt expect blizzard to do a lot of tuning in a fated season
chrome plover
fury warrior time
frozen night
i hope you pay good $ to that patreon of the heart
chrome plover
no just cholesterol
frozen night
debt to the fat bank
dense elbow
exe shines? press exe - basically
mossy fox
ST sims 50k dps higher for me
yeah and arms is one of the 3 outliers on top
ret/arms/dev are all builtdiff
chrome plover
check the wowhead guide rotation page
it lays out the priority quite clearly
ok icyveins then?
right
so ur asking here in a channel which is maintained by the person who writes those guides?
ok
thanks for clarifying
chrome plover
woof woof
warm crag
fuck blizzard for stopping bazed in his tracks
warm crag
@oblique trail well if you want true fact ; Denmark is not located on the Scandnavian Peninsula, which is primarily composed of Norway and Sweden. they are just letting you jump into the bandwagon considering cultural , historical Shizzle .
wispy laurel
Do we have chance for Buff teir set ability, everytime i fell behind ret/lock/priests
chrome plover
yeah it might get buffed
slim coral
no just thank EU
chrome plover
but it might not
oblique trail
thanks na
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> well if you want true fact ; Denmark is not located on th...
FUCK
warm crag
operation sandbag
chrome plover
slim coral
don't worry I've been playing fury for the cuase
warm crag
i sand bag on cd
warm crag
i grey log zskarn (i am master trap defuser in execute)
mossy fox
we need shadowlands banezi to sandbag our logs
wispy laurel
So we have to collaboratively press buttons slower ? XD
chrome plover
i grey log council of dreams (i am literally just a duck)
oblique trail
we need shadowlands banezi to sandbag our logs
this is unreasonably toxic
oblique trail
Consistently average..
chrome plover
😔
warm crag
reporting crit
dire badge
😔
mossy fox
it's in my contract to be toxic to other stormforged
silent burrow
xan xan the blue man
hardy shuttle
Does dawn hardmode give crests?
mossy fox
money laundering scheme crits toxic in skyhold driving people to comment on wowh...
oh yeah that wowhead revenue us going straight to my account
dire badge
south kayak
i have this neck
chrome plover
I made vers wrists am I a noob
south kayak
i have this neck
is this bad
tender cairn
I kept sf
mossy fox
I made vers wrists am I a noob
nah
tender cairn
cuz im a warrior, I tank shit not avoid it
mossy fox
im just delaying that one myself so i can lose my socket later
south kayak
crit
mossy fox
box
chrome plover
I have 2 sockets in my vault I just feel bad that I have to take them :(
mossy fox
uh yeah sure why not
void ridge
use RaidBots mate 🙂
mossy fox
stats dont matter too much if your top gear sim can make a good sim out of your setup as a whole
tender cairn
I just slapped catalyst on 2 hero pieces I had, now I have 2 set
ember apex
i got myth legs from vault and that was my highest simming upgrade for like +8k dps
tender cairn
cant wait for 4set in 2 more weeks!!!
ember apex
from normal mode tier
chrome plover
imagine
ember apex
s4 tier damage feels super low even though it feels like everything is hitting super hard
chrome plover
i got a homeland raid horn at 522 which cranks on sims
but i dont wanna use that trinket
mossy fox
cant wait for 4set in 2 more weeks!!!
you get a mark of mastery from clearing hc raid or 2k m+ score, use that for 1 more piece
void ridge
cant wait for 4set in 2 more weeks!!!
you get a tier token for KSM (2k rating in m+), or AOTC, or the 1800(I think) pvp rating
mossy fox
though you should raid and see if you can snag a piece from raid too
tender cairn
isnt it for all 3 raids
chrome plover
no
tender cairn
or just 1
south kayak
yo crit, is fury performing way worse than arms in m+ or is it depending on key?
tender cairn
ok 1 more week then
ember apex
so if u raid w/ a guild just hit "/rclc disable "
and then need on ur items
like normally
mossy fox
yo crit, is fury performing way worse than arms in m+ or is it depending on key?
arms better, not as big as people make it out to be in keys though
mossy fox
dunno maybe 85
south kayak
arms better, not as big as people make it out to be in keys though
definitely better for me i think, i have very little mastery due to arms gear
2k
ember apex
thats a big diff
dense elbow
s4 tier damage feels super low even though it feels like everything is hitting s...
A big part is that S3 had those juicy BT crits, while S4 crits 300k
Legendary now crits are almost big now tho, so that is nice
chrome plover
535 lego kinda goes hard when we're still 510 and below
ember apex
A big part is that S3 had those juicy BT crits, while S4 crits 300k <:sadge:8202...
if u want big crits just keep building past 100% lol
ember apex
i mean like boss transitions when they go semi - immune like sark, build that shit up to like 150%
yolo swag
void ridge
I mean you can, its less efficient dps, but the dmg boost does keep going up to the full stack
mossy fox
a BT base damage increase or buff on the tier BT amp would be nice tbh
chrome plover
1000% damage per stack
void ridge
yea, piling it up on immune positions is good, also with AM you are reducing your cds, so never afk, find something to hit
ember apex
yo so now that we have like 2 raids w/ fated affixes for raids, what do u guys think? W change or L not having affixes
dense elbow
Buffing tier is the way - make the tierset feel more fun
chrome plover
yo so now that we have like 2 raids w/ fated affixes for raids, what do u guys t...
W change personally
ember apex
yea, piling it up on immune positions is good, also with AM you are reducing you...
this is why i love s2 fury
chrome plover
they dont need it imo
mossy fox
1000% damage per stack
that number is reserved for bfa arms mastery only
chrome plover
damn :/ ok
void ridge
this is why i love s2 fury
ditto
ember apex
w change ok ok any other take havers for s4 awakened
void ridge
still can't decide what trinkets to take for m+, Blood Mallet has OCE and WII as top for 5 targets, but 2 passives just feels batman
ember apex
personally i think its an L change. think of the worst boss in shadowlands for me personally its sludgefist.
fated sludgefist had motes and all that it went from a 2/10 boss to like an 8/10 boss w/ motes alone
is ur OCE dependent on the rest of ur party having OCE?
b/c i think sim default is like eeveryone has oce
void ridge
yea, assuming all
ember apex
i mean ur prob not gonna get that in almost any key
void ridge
this is true
ember apex
i would sim it w/ maybe 1 party member at most having it and looking at it again
void ridge
then its Boon - noooo ty for m+, puzzle/pips
they are just a little lackluster this season imo
ember apex
there's no such thing as a 528 sandglass
void ridge
yea well you have to read between the lines for some of the sims
chrome plover
there's no such thing as a 528 sandglass
what does hero go up to? 522?
i swear i ask that twice a day im so sorry
mossy fox
ye
void ridge
who knows, with this season of 14 levels of upgrades lmao
void ridge
lmao
hardy cargo
sorry been playing my sp alt I got a lil brainrot going on rn trying to recover
digital kestrel
is 10.1 build meta again with aberrus tier?
ember apex
yeah
digital kestrel
god damn it
ember apex
wowhead has the 3 variants
wym this is god tier gameplay
theres M+, ST and raid multi target
digital kestrel
i liked t31 rotation. big ass bloodthirst spams
modest condor
awakened 502 4/14
but it wasnt awakened
hardy cargo
fyralath forgot to set his alarm
mossy fox
i think it still had awakened in tooltip somewhere
just not the right place, so it couldnt be upgraded
modest condor
rip
digital kestrel
@mossy fox are you gonna do any warrior guides for season 4?
mossy fox
long answer is no
ember apex
thats a short answer so what are we supposed to do just gray parse like funkykitty?
wispy laurel
Short answer is ?
mossy fox
no
wispy laurel
Ha
dusk jackal
Good morning, Skyhold!
wispy laurel
<@235809563490779136> are you gonna do any warrior guides for season 4?
Hes not gonna do fury season 4 guide cuz this spec is forgotten now
2nd from below in warcraft logs
flat river
next expansion 100%
mossy fox
Hes not gonna do fury season 4 guide cuz this spec is forgotten now
i wont do a guide cause i never did a spec guide in any season
i just play the game and yap
barren dagger
thats a short answer so what are we supposed to do just gray parse like funkykit...
Funkykitty gray parser?
Exposed?
ember apex
i dont stand behind anything i write ever
barren dagger
Phd in bullshittin
wispy laurel
i just play the game and yap
And yap? Fury is forgotten everyone ! XD he confirms
Call blizz warrior Dev now!
chrome plover
if critcake yapping = fury forgotten then fury was forgotten years ago
long smelt
we dont need a guide to be 2nd from the bottom in logs lol
wispy laurel
Are we forgotten to tuned for s4
ember apex
whats the bottom
barren dagger
they tuning for tiwwwiiw
long smelt
aug
barren dagger
dont worry
chrome plover
we dont need a guide to be 2nd from the bottom in logs lol
you sort by parse then be top :)
long smelt
see we winning aug its fine
wild mica
whats the bottom
aug but barely
ember apex
what are we becoming
barren dagger
Noxiv is 3k already playing fury so we’re actually fine
ember apex
is fury a support spec somehow
barren dagger
Rest is skill issue
void ridge
its still a fine spec unless you are pushing the cutting edge of content, if you are unhappy go play a meta class and then whinge next patch when they get nerfed
enjoy the zug for what it is
long smelt
we becoming arms
wispy laurel
My heart doesnt accepting this, please some one screen shot warcraft log that showing fury is 2nd from below
void ridge
sin rogues are garbage
chrome plover
affliction warlock
ember apex
we're losing to WW monks and surv hunters in ST?!
plucky ice
lol lmao
ember apex
i cannot stop throwing up
void ridge
385k vs 388k - the difference is so minimal
ember apex
wait frost mage is poggers?
ember apex
so guys i have a major announcement to make
i am going to be playing a frost mage in season 4
wispy laurel
Hha
plucky ice
buffs next week for sure 
long smelt
pretty much everyone is arms now
plucky ice
ember apex
i wish they made arms have more APM or have a variant like frost 2H or dual wield
void ridge
they aren't taking S4 very seriously, wouldn't hold out for any buffs tbh
plucky ice
if were lucky we get some buffs 2 weeks before prepatch
void ridge
if you want to top charts, play a meta class
void ridge
frost mage is popping off yes
ember apex
ok so im going to be playing that like i said earlier, big announcement already went out
wispy laurel
Fury warrior always belongs to my heart
void ridge
Fury is life
wispy laurel
Sometimes Kratos
ember apex
did BFA have faction specific PvP transmog?
i saw some warrior in some pog shit but he was alliance
void ridge
if you excel at playing fury, you will beat a FOTM re-roller of a meta class that doesn't understand it properly
plucky ice
beating fotm baddies brings joy
wispy laurel
I already hitting 2.8k rio, but everytime Some class doing So otherworldly Performance
ember apex
i dont run my keys till weekend basically but i dont p00sh raiderio score unless i think i need it to get invites
wispy laurel
Im doing for my fury heart
modest condor
i wish they made arms have more APM or have a variant like frost 2H or dual wiel...
i agree, they should also make it have multiple builders and only 1 spender
ember apex
agree
void ridge
beating fotm baddies brings joy
couldn't agree more
gusty cloak
how can i upgrade my lego from 502?
gusty cloak
the upgrade dude in the pvp area?
void ridge
yup that will work
void ridge
yea there was a bug that they hotfixed
mental rune
Fyi, there's also an upgrade guy right next to the Valdrakken ah this season
chrome plover
I know this but I will always fly to the target dummies to upgrade
ashen socket
Last night on mythic rashok, The pull before we wiped with the boss at 300k and I was doing 270k too
Its cause I went in fucking dstance
Never doing it again
gusty cloak
big huntardd
ashen socket
I think I would have done more dps if I was in s3 set though
clever path
You woulda killed it if you played arms
warm crag
fyrakk obama
ashen socket
You woulda killed it if you played arms
Our other fury warrior played arms and that didn't work out for him
I would assume the same for myself
As my experience with arms is hitting the dummy for 20 minutes and then giving up
Fury may still do alot less dps than arms but
But it can atleast outlive arms 9 times out of 10
clever path
Yeah thats not true lol
glad coyote
fury will have more vers, so in m+ one shots won't get ya as much
we still need a dmg buff a bit
clever path
Fury no longer has a free 30k+ hps
ashen socket
True though he couldn't eat several waves
rigid stirrup
I honestly thought the same way about swapping to arms but in all honestly it isn't that complicated just gotta get used to slamming fillers just incase your procs don't proc
spring fox
Fury doesn't even need to stay alive
ashen socket
there was 1 point where I ate 3 and then did a soak and I lived
spring fox
Most of our damage RN is coming from putting Battle Shout on the hunters
clever path
ashen socket
Most of our damage RN is coming from putting Battle Shout on the hunters
Support spec
Alright so hear me out
glad coyote
id be a support spec if blizz made fury into one
glad coyote
fury into support
clever path
Yell warrior
ashen socket
cut our damage in half
spring fox
Support spec
Aug is literally beating fury on 95 percentile heroic raids except for the last two Aberrus bosses lol
ashen socket
Aug is literally beating fury on 95 percentile heroic raids except for the last ...
I know
we are already half way there to support spec territory
spring fox
I genuinely do want a warrior healer spec
Yelling based. Scare that blood back in the body
ashen socket
lol works for me
spring fox
Yell at the raid to do a lap=stampeding Roar
prime root
Singer barb from d2 in wow remove stun dr
Warriors can loot bodies for extra loot boom people want us 😜
spring fox
"Sorry guys, it's just pocket lint again. But it's void pocket link?"
glad coyote
i would love a new kind of brez
where you scream at the dead boby rezzing them for 30 seconds
healer gotta heal a absorb shield or something like that
open wigeon
are you guys using shockwave in m+?
modest condor
yes
empty mirage
wait got damn i sim lower with that trinket i thought i was onto something
modest talon
how we use puzzle in m+?
south kayak
this bis?
modest talon
just puzzle and go in?
ember apex
if ur not topping the DPS meter i wouldnt spec into shockwave. u spec into shockwave once u have ur dps sorted and ur looking for another meter to top
eternal sundial
ember apex
after dps i care about interrupts > stops > rage generated (if there's another fury warrior) > damage taken
so basically if ur not top dps in ur keys dont spec into that b/c thats ur first job
once u finish ur first job then u focus on topping other less relevant meters like interrupts etc...
mossy fox
topping deaths is pretty good too
empty mirage
not too shnabby
ember apex
being top dps + top interrupts is good then try to improve ur damage taken
mossy fox
more damage taken means you can do more hps
spring fox
Sorry, but I'm trying to top healing meters
Maybe that'll make Blizzard notice that we don't have the dedicated healing spec yet
ember apex
we're closer in damage to augmentation (bottom) than any other spec in the entire game
spring fox
Just had a thought...fury DPS is so low that my Sark cloak might actually hurt raid DPS more than it helps 💀
plush raven
Time to reroll paladin i guess.
spring fox
I was so excited when I won that Tuesday too lol
ember apex
we're officially playing the worse spec in the entire game btw
empty mirage
the underdog
spring fox
Working as intended
ember apex
remember when blizz promised to balance the tier and that we should choose based on gameplay
oblique trail
It basically is
Because the set that people knew weren't great for the raid, is the one that won
ember apex
blizz literaelly promised they would balance it
spring fox
No damage, no utility
ember apex
and to pick what u think is fun
wild mica
blizz literaelly promised they would balance it
20 years of examples of this never happening and people still believe
spring fox
Everything has still been so easy that I'm just amused. I'd love to not battle the dead holy priest for DPS, but the bosses are dying pretty quickly anyway
edgy widget
if ever there was a season to not care about performance and just play what you want, this is probably it
spring fox
Very bad if you want to pug, but I just stick with guild groups
edgy widget
the hardest part of the entire season was last week; it all gets easier from here
ember apex
i mean fury should defeinitely be buffed
play what u want sure yeah thats true all the time but like they should buff fury
lofty scroll
i just finished m+, its so under tuned with st and aoe
spring fox
They should definitely buff fury, but I won't be too surprised if they don't. Things will still die if they don't as well
If everyone else carries us this easily already, imagine when they have like +20 ilvl and BiS lol
spring fox
I would fall over laughing if they just nerfed Aug damage so we're second to last
lofty scroll
haha
ember cradle
Is Fury actually in a bad place or are we just way more dependent on stats and weapons?
lofty scroll
bad place
young swan
its not good
ember apex
they didnt buff the S4 tierset enough to compensate
ember cradle
:/
lofty scroll
very very bad place hahah
lofty scroll
yup
spring fox
If it was weapons, people being able to get a 535 legendary last night would at least have gotten us to beat Aug
south kayak
don't get your hopes up
lofty scroll
thats why i voted s3
ember apex
u werent supposed to vote for power
lofty scroll
haha
spring fox
Blizzard+math=screaming
late ivy
do u guys macro avatar and reck?
ember apex
its not hard just give an aura buff or something for the season
ember apex
do u guys macro avatar and reck?
no
lofty scroll
i could be wrong s2 is a bit stronger in st but with s3 and the raid. you noticed we were barely buffed
ember apex
i mean u can but u should have reck/ravager on a seperate KB than avatar
lofty scroll
last season
ember apex
our damage didnt move
lofty scroll
i dont
young swan
i could be wrong s2 is a bit stronger in st but with s3 and the raid. you notice...
s2 is absolutely 100% not stronger in st
ember apex
in theory it should be stronger b/c it isnt dependent on add cleave for rage gen
slender perch
fury hits like a wet nudel whit s2 set
young swan
all of them
lofty scroll
im not talking about when s2 was current
young swan
s2 tier was worse in s3 and its worse now, even after being buffed
ember apex
S2 tierset was basically supposed to do more damage than every other spec outside of their cooldowns b/c S2 fury has no CDs it relies on being a consistent performer
south kayak
lofty scroll
s2 tier was worse in s3 and its worse now, even after being buffed
i agree. sorry for being confusing lol
lofty scroll
haha
south kayak
(I am joking)
lofty scroll
yeah lol
young swan
yeah honestly im not even sure s2 got "stronger"
south kayak
Jail worthy
south kayak
yeah honestly im not even sure s2 got "stronger"
stoner
lofty scroll
haha
late ivy
rotation is ravager>charge>avatar>reck>onslaught>roar right?
south kayak
is the sp ok
ember apex
u can macro rav/reck
south kayak
yes
young swan
dont need to press avatar before reck anymore
south kayak
u can macro rav/reck
dont do this
ember apex
dont macro rav/reck like i was saying
yeah i was like wait dont do that b/c of the effects that it has when u do it
young swan
rotation is ravager>charge>avatar>reck>onslaught>roar right?
ravager>reck+ava>charge>ramp should be possible now
south kayak
I thought u had a phd in dps
lofty scroll
hahahahah
mellow chasm
Wait guys i totally remember a bunch of guys in here really love S2 bonuses and that they made sure to vote, are they not happy now?
late ivy
oh ok
lofty scroll
i dont hear them now
ember apex
Wait guys i totally remember a bunch of guys in here really love S2 bonuses and ...
u were supposed to vote for gameplay, s2 gameplay still BiS
lofty scroll
but its very early in the season
ember apex
blizz F'ed up tuning fury
mellow chasm
Is it because they are playing shadow priest?
lofty scroll
I thought u had a phd in dps <:sadge:820202363359854633>
dude im still laughing
mellow chasm
If you believed blizzard would tune numbers correctly for a phoned in season I’ve got a bridge to sell you
ember apex
look im in the DeVry university school of damage alright
it aint nothin prestigous
phd in dps from devry
slate garnet
guys is arms better then fury in M+ for season 4?
lofty scroll
yes
barren dagger
yes
glad coyote
vivid moth
I see an Aug in there
slate garnet
is the difference in damage is a lot? between arms and fury ?
empty mirage
yes
barren dagger
cant wait to get 4set and leave fury behind forever
slate garnet
i just hope next expnasion fury warrior will be given more utility so we can join M+ groups faster
lofty scroll
forever?
slate garnet
also i hope we get BL
ember apex
honestly i dont want utility
i just want to do like 20% more damage than every other spec in the game
slate garnet
me 2 🙂
barren dagger
same
ember apex
and then we will get invites
barren dagger
damage over everything
ember apex
and we dont need to worty about utility
south kayak
dude im still laughing
LMAO
ember apex
yo ok
lofty scroll
haha
south kayak
what about that phd in dps tho
lofty scroll
lol
marsh kiln
50k ST difference between arms and fury
Big af
Half my gear is fury stats tho
Wont need ass candy atleast if i swap to arms
ember apex
so if ur guild uses rc loot council and ur on nelth
before the pull do /rclc disable
and then need on it when it drops
i have ashkandur now
slate garnet
what is the stat prio for arms anyway 🙂
lofty scroll
yup
slate garnet
legion fury warrior was the best 🙂
marsh kiln
Icc fury
slate garnet
Nah
slate garnet
during Nighthold is NOICE
slate garnet
xD
wild mica
dont do this
why not? no reason not to. Just have different keybinds for your charge opener
marsh kiln
But theyll probably stop on MoP classic
Maybe WoD with some tweaks to the entire expansion
tranquil fulcrum
Cata Pre mastery pull fury
marsh kiln
Since it was dogshit and empty
sullen dove
wild mica
wod was only shit if you didnt raid, the raids were sick
wild mica
i mean that's still the case
open wigeon
wod dungeons 🤮
lofty scroll
i like them lol
marsh kiln
Fav dungeons for me are probably all of the bc ones
And some vanilla ones
Cata has some great ones too
And between last 4 expansions probably SL dungs lol
marsh kiln
What ilvl r u?
glad coyote
509
marsh kiln
My dps spiked by quite a bit just by replacing tier sets and upgrading leggo to 515
Im 497 rn and i do 350-400k consistently
open wigeon
And between last 4 expansions probably SL dungs lol
Theater of Pain was a really pain
marsh kiln
Depending on the dung
dense elbow
I thought you talked about ST for a sec
meager void
lofty scroll
should be
wild mica
its fated season, no tuning coming
south kayak
marsh kiln
Arms that is
dense elbow
No tuning needed, everyone is simply overtuned - we are where the tier is balanced around
lofty scroll
hasnt there been some tuning already?
lofty scroll
i dont mind them
open wigeon
Arms that is
arms does more damage with way less effort
granite tiger
<:critcake:984549832511344640>
i feel that in last dngn 🤦♂️ ( still spamin AA )
marsh kiln
Arms for raid
south kayak
i feel that in last dngn 🤦♂️ ( still spamin AA )
I do have chamo version so im fine for now
ashen socket
No tuning needed, everyone is simply overtuned - we are where the tier is balanc...
It would literally take 2 seconds to give us a buff
lofty scroll
well i prefer this then none and have the rest of the exp be bland
marsh kiln
I mean sure i cleared voti hc / aberrus hc day1 of the week and it was kinda fun to re-do it again
But like
regal raptor
guys, noob question real fast, just came back from a months break, stat for fury warr, shall i sim myself or there a priority stats to go ?
marsh kiln
Itll get boring after 2 more weeks lol
lofty scroll
yeah im pretty sure other classes have a little tuning
marsh kiln
Same dungeons / same raids
dense elbow
It would literally take 2 seconds to give us a buff
I wrote: We are where ppl are supposed to be. They cant buff us?!
They got to nerf them.
lofty scroll
but i wasnt paying that much attention
ashen socket
Nah dont nerf anything just buff everyone else
way more fun
Nerfing just feels bad
dense elbow
Just nerf everyone else, fuck em
marsh kiln
Im just gonna get myself to 527ilvl before war within