fury

[long smelt]

but bliz is known for horrible tuning and id rather keep a tier thats tuned decently well then hope they buff something right

[brazen quest]

guys if you love w8 for cds go play old man classes, s2 tier set is much more fury be like tier set, than w8 and w8 for cds in s3 tier set

[chrome plover]

real

[subtle lagoon]

based

[hollow elk]

actually arms is more what youd expect of something called " fury " its nearly mindless button smashing as long as you respect the 2 overpowerd/execute buffed mortal strike rule

[hard widget]

I didnt like season 3 set, still had to play it for an entire season zZzZ

[hollow elk]

meanwhile fury. you fuck your rage and overcap and you are messing hard

[hard widget]

If you overcap get urself a swingtimer and start double rampaging

[icy topaz]

Wtf ia going on xd

[chrome plover]

there's less cringe overcapping with s2

[subtle lagoon]

People pointing fingers at people who voted s2 aren't looking at the main source of the problem, Blizzard.

[chrome plover]

u just spam rampage

[opal monolith]

A swingtimer ?

Is this classic

[icy topaz]

Season 3 enjoyers kekw

[hard widget]

If you want to minmax as fury, with season 2 set u get urself a swingtimer

So u know when ur going to overcap and be able to double rampage

[hollow elk]

fury white dmg swings barely gen any rage tho. you just get it mostly off skills. arms whtie swings on the other hand

one arms swing is like 1/3 of a bar or more

[stoic dirge]

guys what stats for fury warrior new season?

[chrome plover]

it's an option but i never look at my swing timer on fury

[fresh creek]

haster mastery

[hard widget]

Thats just simply false

[stoic dirge]

haste mastery?

[chrome plover]

you do get decent rage from autos since perma reck

[small scarab]

waiting for cds is every class in a nutshell, this tier set just opens up a larger room for error in your rotation, how many stacs is slaughtering strikes, how high is the set bonus stacks, ah looks like my spear is ready once more when im 20 seconds of recklessness again... there is no synergy between the cooldowns. but hey if you want to sit and wait for your spear of bastion and avatar to synk up with recklessness thats 40 seconds off.. be my gust 😄 sure you can lower it with angermanagement but still waiting for your buggest burst option when in the old spec.. you always had them lined up

[chrome plover]

but you're spamming the shit outta rampage anyway

[hard widget]

This exactly

[hollow elk]

its nothing that youre gona be watching at a double swing timer to tho

[long stone]

do you think we have a chance to get buffs ?

[fresh creek]

this season nah

[hollow elk]

if no buffs happen before week 3 its rip

[hard widget]

You get urself a normal swingtimer, when ur capping rage and auto attack is 75%+ done u know double rampage next

Because you will generate mid rampage

bringing you over 80 again

[hollow elk]

you have a 30 rage buffer man you should never be capping rage unless someone is PIing you for w.e reason

swing timers in fury is pointless

[chrome plover]

compare logs

[hard widget]

Its free advice, take it or not.

End of the day i'll play my game the same ^^

[hollow elk]

lol okay

[chrome plover]

I dont use a swing timer but it's really not bad advice to have one

especially if you feel like you're overcapping

[median marsh]

is it safe now to buy the upgrade for the leggo axe?
i saw that it was bugged or something

[chrome plover]

it's easy to see how bad ur overcapping in a log

[hard widget]

During opener / lust this will happen quite a lot

Especially with current season stats

[hollow elk]

it is but depending on how long blizzard takes to fix the upgradge bug you could go and get something else instead. doubt they will take 2 weeks tho..

[chrome plover]

yeah true we have kinda insane stats

maybe i'll feel it's more necessary now

had no issue in season 2

[long smelt]

they should just make anger management baseline or easier to get

[hard widget]

U can upgrade the leggo, just not increase the ilvl till fixed

[hollow elk]

same account name. somehow im the only oumura so far.

[oblique trail]

They should just let AM die

[median marsh]

i see, good picture dude

[hard widget]

❤️

[hard widget]

Jeventes-silvermoon

[chilly sapphire]

Was coping thinking awakened item was going to produce max ilvl leggo.

[regal aurora]

uhh new 4pc garbo or am i missing something? I was running 2/2 and now that I got all 4 pieces of new tier set, after talent changes and everything, its a 20k dps loss?

[hardy cargo]

also coping thinking you might be allowed to upgrade it day one after buyin bullion

[chilly sapphire]

Almost feel like a bad investment

[fading sky]

So what u saying a cleave tier is weaker than a heavy st tier?🐵

Anni gave loads of power from wft that power is gone

[last pewter]

any news on bliz fixing the legendary bug yet

[rocky marlin]

Question, should we still be picking the legendary item from bullions given the issue?

[opal monolith]

Ah yes cleave tier

[fading sky]

Yes

[opal monolith]

That also sims lower

On cleave

[fading sky]

Unless they spend 2 weeks fixxing it

[hollow elk]

Time to work

[fading sky]

Dno what u sim then?

5min cleave?

[regal aurora]

Right so should I keep my old 2 piece around for better AoE in M+? idk man just weird having a huge iLvl jump lead into such a large power loss

[fading sky]

Nah, it is better in keys with 4p

U get cds up all the time

Its very good in most keys

[regal aurora]

Okay fair enough

[chilly sapphire]

Just not raid.

[fresh creek]

how much worse are we sopeaking % wise?

[fading sky]

I mean in raid its also stupidly strong at the correct places

Diurna add - boss

Its very good

[hollow elk]

It really isn't that much better if you're already tunning arms just fyi. It's like 1% more DPS than arms bs build. In m+

[opal ore]

Is there any information how much we should weigh our stats as Warrior DPS anywhere? Like what %s we should be around for each stat..

[fading sky]

But any boss where u wanna hold cds or loose uptime its terrible

[regal aurora]

20k dps loss on the dungeon slice (no idea if thats even accurate so maybe thats my problem)

[long smelt]

but any non add boss is just meh

[small scarab]

I love everyone huffing copium saying "they just need to tune it" when we're preforming better with lower item lvl gear, bruh that just proves how much more superior the odyns fury set up was, if they need to go in and increase the general damage output just to mach or outpreform something older, you are compleatly missing the issue

[opal monolith]

Based

But muh rampage spam

[hollow elk]

People that wanted s2 wasn't for performance it was for game style. At least that's what they are huffing now that we are 40k under arms lol

[small scarab]

the preformance was shitty, they just wanted to press recklessness faster, spear of bastion and avatar rarely lines up with the angermanagement

[mossy fox]

what's spear of bastion again?

[hollow elk]

Its that thing that blinds you from swirlies

[small scarab]

Shadowlands ptsd sits hard

[mossy fox]

anyway shouldnt care about cds lining up

[hardy cargo]

everyone who voted s2 was told the set was going to be buffed accordingly, so idk waht the gotcha is here, ofc everyone voted for the playstyle they wanted to play when told everything was going to be made equal lol

[mossy fox]

just send on cd

thats how the spec works

[hollow elk]

The "work" part tho...

[mossy fox]

personally having a lot of fun playing with the s2 set again, just numbers aren't as good

[hollow elk]

Didnt they already buff the s2 set

[long smelt]

blizz says alot of things that dont come true

[brazen quest]

this +1

[hardy cargo]

it was a really bad buff

[hollow elk]

Well blizzard didn't lie then

[opal monolith]

Buff the 12 percent to 24 percent now

[long smelt]

i saw them say theyll buff accordingly and i laughed

[hard widget]

It states, that it will be tuned to be AS STRONG as the others

It doesnt say we are going to slightly buff it to be worse still

[shell jackal]

[hollow elk]

When has blizzard ever balanced all specs to be nearly equal.

[hard widget]

Thats not the point

[long smelt]

ppl still trust bliz too much lol

[opal monolith]

Blizzard used democracy to weaken us

Now live with it

You wanted it

[hard widget]

The thing is and this is what a lot of people fail to understand. If season 2 fury would be 50k dps ahead of s3 fury, nobody would say a thing and everyone would be happy.

[hollow elk]

Arms for a short season. O well

[small scarab]

speak for yourself

[forest owl]

good go arms, stop filling chat with your whiny moany bs

[brazen quest]

but why you all blame ppl for choseing play stayle when thats blizz faild to tune it as they sad

[chrome plover]

absolutely

[hardy cargo]

real

[shell jackal]

gentlemen

are we good up in here

[opal monolith]

This is a forum brother, no need to attack people on a personal level

[hollow elk]

Imagine being mad at words in an ap for talking

If words hurt I suggest turn off screen or something sheesh

[hardy cargo]

we are just experiencing the ramafications of the outcome of the great 2024 fury warrior civil war

[forest owl]

thats all people have been doing all morning, attacking people that voted s2 now mad cause its a bit undertuned

[hollow elk]

40k isn't a bit

[hard widget]

Imagine how afflock feels kappa

[red berry]

i just want them to buff rampage raging blow and ravager by a non-insiginifcant amount

[hollow elk]

Only*

Lol

[opal monolith]

Idk man i get the frustration but no gun is being held to your head to read it, i think its fair to complain given the numbers, aslong as people dont attack each other

[hollow elk]

Amen

[regal aurora]

yeah if they're whining all morning then youve been reading it all morning

[chrome plover]

[hollow elk]

Word hurt

[regal aurora]

Don't rage dump on me bro! D:

[shell jackal]

i preferred s3. i picked s3 on the vote. but i'm not mad or annoyed over it because i just enjoy playing the warrior class.

[forest owl]

losing a vote hurts.

keep crying lol

[hardy cargo]

[chrome plover]

im still topping my +10s and mythic bosses just play better to compensate

[hollow elk]

Arms hurt more tho now stop being a baby and nlblock or disregard

[rain sierra]

@chrome plover logs plz

[shell jackal]

i'm not topping shit because i'm dogwater please help me chawie

[hollow elk]

If chawie does it then maybe...

[mossy fox]

dev/ret/arms are also around 30-40k higher than most specs iirc

so saying fury is 40k behind arms is a bit misleading

[hollow elk]

I mean I'd take an arms/ret/dev nerf cough

[shell jackal]

dude i wish i could play arms. i mean, i can, and i want to learn, but i've barely touched the spec.

[hard widget]

Big true

[opal monolith]

Are you a high end mythic raider mrfroob

[latent radish]

What have you guys used your buillions on ?

[shell jackal]

always been a fury main because having two huge-ass swords is badass and cool

well i got cutting edge in s3 so i think so

[regal aurora]

this is the way

[shell jackal]

but it was late in s3

[slender perch]

Just wait for buffs

[hollow elk]

Or nerfs

[hardy cargo]

I see this line of thinking a lot surrounding this game tbh: Compare the mean to the outlier and call the mean bad as a result when its not as good as the outlier

[regal aurora]

True maybe we've been doing it wrong the whole time. Maybe we need to beg for nerfs?

[opal monolith]

Im just asking because unless youre in some super sweaty competitive guild, just have fun man ,try arms

[final eagle]

Play arms for parses

[obtuse steeple]

what is better bro splits or PPL ?

[shell jackal]

well we're a 1.5 day/week guild 😅

[hollow elk]

Nerf everything that's above fury down to fury level

[chrome plover]

i dont even have 4p im just yapping but my character name is same as discord

[hollow elk]

If they buff or nerf fury. I hope they don't before I buy the trinkets...

[slender perch]

Ngl if you are good fury player in a average guild you still will be on top

[final birch]

Dev 445 iirc, arms 430 ret 425

[final eagle]

It depends if the people that you play with its good hehe

[final birch]

[hollow elk]

My guild is full of sweaties....forced to arms

[mossy fox]

my 30/40k approx wasnt far off then

[hard widget]

He wants to verify if you are a cerified gamer dude xd

[final birch]

Yeah

Dev is nuts

Well arms and ret are also but dev is different game

[hollow elk]

Had to wear a champion piece to obtain t4

[chrome plover]

season 2 enjoyer right here

[slender perch]

Well 5/9 mytic so bit above average would say but still can hold top 3 easy tbh single target kinda hard now 💀

[hardy cargo]

im currently wearing a veteran piece

[hollow elk]

My man. I am sorry

[hardy cargo]

its ok next week I just catty to hero piece

[final eagle]

Im at the same, but playing arms make the progres so smooth at least on aberrus

Lit every single kill im above 300k

[hollow elk]

Guild doing n/h tonight. Should be fun

[broken zealot]

boys the legendary upgrades that dont work is that the crests/flightstones part? or does the 502 bullion item also not work?

[hollow elk]

Bully does work

[slender perch]

I don’t enjoy arms so that’s no option for me I tested it first 2 mytic bosses but didn’t even hit 80 pars so I dropped it 😂

[final eagle]

But yeah fury st right now its prob one of the worst ones

[broken zealot]

ahh ok so u can at least get 502

[hollow elk]

Yep

[hardy cargo]

you can get it to 502 with the bullion item. but not further than that

[broken zealot]

sound thank you

[frosty scroll]

is leggo upgrade still bugged or naw

[final eagle]

still ma broda

[slender perch]

Yeah and the worst part is you know you prop played your spec the best but are down bottom 😂

[final eagle]

[desert cloud]

i mean you'd still outdmmg 90% of ur raid team

cuz none of them can play properly

[slender perch]

Because everyone needs to change classes every season I feel like we warris always stay no matter what we complain a lot but still play it 💀

[desert cloud]

we're just built different

[slender perch]

Trueee

[mossy fox]

i sure felt builtdiff back in SL castle nathria, especially on sludgefist

damn we owned

[hardy cargo]

LOL

and it was like.. no matter what we did it didnt matter always owned

eeven swapping spec

[final eagle]

doing prog on stone legion

[sour frigate]

Fake. Fury sux st only mob pad

Monke superior

[slender perch]

Old guild fall apart after 2,1% wipe on sluge my worst nightmare

[sour frigate]

[rotund ginkgo]

should i still use buillon on wep?

if its bugged?

[sour frigate]

99 fury does few 100ks dps less

[rotund ginkgo]

i assume yes cuz thatll save me 2 weeks of waiting WHEN it's fixed?

[final eagle]

yeah, they gonna fix it prob today

[desert cloud]

they might fix it soon they might fix it in 2 weeks

u never know

[final eagle]

so dont rush the bullion

[rotund ginkgo]

so not use yet but probs this week?

is what im hearin?

[final eagle]

ya

[frosty scroll]

hi ragish

[rotund ginkgo]

hi

[vocal coral]

whats bugged about the leggy?

[rotund ginkgo]

cant upgrade

[desert cloud]

the fact that it's ...

[pine geyser]

why would i rush the bullion if i don't even have the leggy ?

[hardy cargo]

2 522 weapons sim better aoe and st for me anyways (one being ashkandur) dunno how much that matters

[rotund ginkgo]

skill issue

[desert cloud]

because you should ...

[vocal coral]

i could upgrade it @rotund ginkgo

[rotund ginkgo]

well i dont have those golg

so

[rotund ginkgo]

past 4?

prove it

[vocal coral]

oh no just to 4

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

thats where u cant go more

[vocal coral]

I see

[sour frigate]

Leg will oversim + potential eranog ring

[rotund ginkgo]

just do what i did

problem solved

[desert cloud]

true

i got a cloak

there

[sour frigate]

I did 2 sockets

[chrome plover]

I loved doing less than our brewmaster on council as fury, or barely beating a grey parse boomkin with a 99

[desert cloud]

how tf is brew doing more dmmg than fur

[rotund ginkgo]

no reason to hold on to catalyst charges rn right?

heroic shoulders > normal with leech

[chrome plover]

it did on council of blood

[desert cloud]

how much dmmg

did he blast

[chrome plover]

i dont remember it was like 3 years ago

[desert cloud]

bruh

i thought u're talking abt now

[chrome plover]

if you could read you'd know I wasnt

[desert cloud]

i only read council

and skipped

[rotund ginkgo]

522 vs 515 with leech? hmmge

[desert cloud]

leech doesn't give more dmmg

who tf needs leech

[rotund ginkgo]

true

and real

[calm mantle]

What are the best pieces to tier first? I have shoulders champ and I have myth legs to catalyst. Do I go gloves + chhest or helm + chest?

[hardy cargo]

it does if taking a bunch of damage and running BSL

[desert cloud]

ssim that shit

i wouldn't go for legs cuz we gonna replace anyway

[rotund ginkgo]

@desert cloud question is, do i keep old head which is 489+avoidance+socket or old pants which are 489+leech

as offpiece

[desert cloud]

not one of our best set places

[hardy cargo]

hat is biggest upgrade among all of the tier pieces

[rotund ginkgo]

fr?

[calm mantle]

it's the only myth piece I have tho, so myth tier would be nice tho? or just use myth legs as a piece?

[hardy cargo]

bc of head enchant scaling with ilvl

[rotund ginkgo]

even if i have socket on old hat?

[hardy cargo]

yeah

[rotund ginkgo]

ouh

ic ic

ty

prob solved then

[desert cloud]

head big

[sour frigate]

Go legs roll arms

[rotund ginkgo]

legs are offpiece for both

so

like, optimal offpiece ig

[desert cloud]

even arms doesn't need leg sets

[sour frigate]

[calm mantle]

So just save my legs as a rando myth piece and tier hero?

[sour frigate]

EVEN ARMS

[desert cloud]

best leg for arms is from another boss

[rotund ginkgo]

some dude gave me his crit haste feet w leech tho

poggies

[desert cloud]

best legs is from assault

for arms

which u can easily farm

[rotund ginkgo]

its catalyst this week right?

no craft?

[hardy cargo]

catty every week

no spark this week

[desert cloud]

every week u get 1

[rotund ginkgo]

srs?

LMAO

[chrome plover]

Half spark, one catalyst, one bullion

[rotund ginkgo]

why tf did i care about holding onto cata

KEK

ya boy went from 500 to 510

[desert cloud]

lucky

if i don't get 4 set today from loot council i'll just g play fking cata

for the rest of the week

[rotund ginkgo]

thats what i did

just cata'd

im trial so

[desert cloud]

i mean cataclysm

[rotund ginkgo]

i know even tho i still get gear its a better shot for me to grab cata/run my own group

oh

lol

nvm then

[desert cloud]

not catalyst

[calm mantle]

1k dps more to cata myth legs over my hero gloves ;o

[frosty scroll]

i can upgrade the leggo to 502 right

[hardy cargo]

ye but not beyond it

[rotund ginkgo]

how we lookin

havent builloned yet

[frosty scroll]

ragish u always look stellar to me x

[rotund ginkgo]

ty peanut

do we not play uproar in m+?

with 4p

[hardy cargo]

u do

[frozen latch]

so 502 lego, when we will upgrade? Is there a time?

[frosty scroll]

whenever they hotfix it

[gilded obsidian]

has anyone crafted bsl and are they getting decent uptime with it?

[glad coyote]

i got a feeling this hotfix will be awhile

[rotund ginkgo]

no shot itll be a while

legendaries cant be upgraded lmao

itll be fixed in a couple days

[frosty scroll]

u tell em ragish

[rotund ginkgo]

so no more shockwave?

[glad coyote]

thats the issue a couple of days to way to long for this to be a bug

[desert cloud]

well it's taking at least 48hours now

[glad coyote]

they've known about this for 2-3 months on PTR

[fresh creek]

it shouldve been fixed already 😄

[desert cloud]

cuz Na had it first

[hardy cargo]

u can play it if u really want, its not a huge loss but people generally dont play it nah

[glad coyote]

people play shockwave in m+

[calm mantle]

I love shockwave for keys

[glad coyote]

dpending on key and group comp

[rotund ginkgo]

just remove honed reflexes

problem solved

LUL

intervene being in wowhead LUL

[fresh creek]

im kinda happy ontslaught is back 😄

[sudden thicket]

+5 ilvls and S4 set +0.7%
What did I do to deserve such massive gains

[unkempt vapor]

i sim less with s4 build and 4set, 2+2 and 20 itemlvl less sims better lol

[fresh creek]

we all know new tier is undertuned get used to it

[unkempt vapor]

who tf voted this garbage

[sudden thicket]

yes but i want to complain first

[warm crag]

me i voted for it

[fresh creek]

i forgot to vote but wouldbve voted S2 asswell

[calm mantle]

Would this be the avatar macro ?
#showtooltip Avatar
/use Avatar
/use Recklessness
/use 13

[warm crag]

isnt it cast for spells

idk if use will work

[calm mantle]

Also westill using Itimidating shout for m+ or not really needed

[shell jackal]

use works

[sudden thicket]

cast and use both work

[fresh creek]

we shouldnt macro avatar to reckless imo

[warm crag]

why not

[shell jackal]

no

[warm crag]

as long as you have a seperate keybind its fine

[shell jackal]

idk dont we wanna press em separately or with s2 set is it different

[calm mantle]

Seperate keybind ofr both avatar and reck or just reck?

[calm mantle]

You wanna use both reck and avatar when its up and reck when tis off cooldown from my knowledge

[warm crag]

theres no penalty to pressing them both together

[shell jackal]

i have separate keybinds for both, one isn't macro'd into the other

but with s2 set maybe ill change it back up

to the og macro. the ''swifty oneshot'' type beat.

[rotund ginkgo]

there is unless they fixed it tho

u gotta ava before reck

[warm crag]

they did

[rotund ginkgo]

they fixed the bug?

[warm crag]

yes in early s3

[rotund ginkgo]

nice

idk if i just wanna grab scale

i think i do

i cant think of any reason not to even tho its bugged

[calm mantle]

So intimidating shout in m+ or just shockwave is fine?

[warm crag]

why wouldnt you

[rotund ginkgo]

i run intim shout

but

i mean

both are dogshit

shockwave is unironically good

its just placed really bad

[calm mantle]

so shout > shockwave if i wanted one over the other?

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean

realistically

shockwave>uproar

[warm crag]

they're not mutually exclusive

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

u can play both

[warm crag]

why do you see them as mutually exclusive

[rotund ginkgo]

i just play uproar

[calm mantle]

I could run both but I need room for onslaught onto my bar

[rotund ginkgo]

AHAHAH

[warm crag]

you need god

[rotund ginkgo]

how do u lack room

as a fury warrior

bro i have 5 keys

[warm crag]

imma be real with you "I lack space" is not a good excuse to not run your best util

[rotund ginkgo]

ye u a dog fr

thats actually so based tho

i respect it

[calm mantle]

LOL

That reaction cracked me up

I think my bar lay out is quite good actually.

[rotund ginkgo]

respectfully, restartet in my opinion

[warm crag]

i mean as long as you're comfortable

[hardy cargo]

that bar layout looks so cursed

but everyone plays different lmao

[warm crag]

shift modifier kick is demonic tho

[hardy cargo]

shift mod leap also rubs me wrong lol

[calm mantle]

I have shift and alt remapped to back and forward on my mouse. So all the toehr stuff just kinda line up finger wise

[rotund ginkgo]

hey i called it restartet didnt i

[proud vessel]

Do you get a tier piece from 2k score AND hc last boss or just either 1?

[final birch]

1

[proud vessel]

Thanks

Our vault can contain loot from all 3 raids every week right?

[chrome plover]

supposedly

[dense elbow]

I am genuinely surprised, no wowhead post or blue post about the legendary issue

Maybe it is working as intended

[rotund ginkgo]

my shit clean

@calm mantle

[chrome plover]

there is dont worry

wowhead should put something up to bring attention to that though

[calm mantle]

what do I take out for shout and maybe uproar?

[final birch]

We had 2 posts

[calm mantle]

my shit as well. the bars I showed before sit at the bottom of my screen because im still a scrub atm

[chrome plover]

oh i didnt see anything on wowhead

[summer quail]

@fading sky hello

[final birch]

Ye we had 1 very early

[fading sky]

dang bro

[final birch]

And other one that said theyre working on it but itll take time

[chrome plover]

honed reflexes

[final birch]

🤡

[fading sky]

@summer quail how was next boss?

[summer quail]

knew the name sounded familiar

[fading sky]

haha ye, i am not one for secrecy 😄

[summer quail]

closer but you got me

[calm mantle]

can I take uproar with shout or it's one or the other?

[fading sky]

imma get new 4p now mutou and leggo upgraded

😄

[summer quail]

ye i don't have 4p either, not a single piece dropped. just need 1 piece

also gl getting leggo upgraded xD

[chrome plover]

I would choose between shockwave and shout tbh,

[fading sky]

well

[chrome plover]

depending on what my group needs

[fading sky]

from 496 to 504 is still upgrade 😄

502

❤️

[mossy fox]

why not both

oh i misunderstand

yeah if you want to take int shout and uproar in that tree, you drop honed and shockwave

[chrome plover]

I will probably play this today with 4p

[fervent turtle]

hey i changed the BT weakaura to ring at 94% crit chance because i found by default it overcaps beyond 100%. you guys think 94% is fine?

[chrome plover]

well it depends on your crit chance

in short, yes it's fine

the difference between sending at 94 or 104 is going to be pretty much 0

in terms of your dps

[fervent turtle]

the thing is if the crit chance is not 100% BT might not crit rarely

[chrome plover]

correct

[fervent turtle]

but i can try one rampage earlier 🙂

[broken kindle]

yoo guys, what embellishment do u chose as fury? again versa bracers or going full shadowflame?

[flat river]

is purchase fixed?

or upgrade i mean

[chrome plover]

nah

[flat river]

ok ill wait

sorry for pinging you Archi

[dense elbow]

💕

[chrome plover]

(they did have something up i am blind and wrong and)

[warm crag]

i will viciously assault you chawie are you ready?

[chrome plover]

yes

[novel perch]

Is it worth to break old 4 set if I have new 2 set (hc ilvl)

And play with 2p 2p with mixed talents?

Or I playa annihilator with old 2p until new 4 set

[flat river]

got anvil from lfr

pog

[opal monolith]

if ur Aoeing and u spend ur last ww cleave stack and ur almost overcapping

would it be better to ST rampage

or just whirlwind and overcap

a little

[chrome plover]

ww

[hasty path]

Overcap

It’s fine

You lose so little

[storm meadow]

Hello there

[opal monolith]

alright makes sense

[hasty path]

Vs losing an entire rampage cleave

[opal monolith]

cheers

[hasty path]

Favorite ice cream flavor?

[storm meadow]

Hard to tell between chesnut & brownie

[hasty path]

Chestnut is a weird ass choice

Brownie I respect

Carry on

[storm meadow]

Anyone here familiar with the list of triggers to listen to Crit modifiers for the 4P ?

usually Chestnut is referred to as Nutella-like

[opal monolith]

Biscoff

[viral plaza]

do you guys macro avatar to reck or ravager to reck

[opal monolith]

i got a macro for reck/ava

and a reck button

[rotund ginkgo]

I got an Ava roar macro

A roar

And reck

[storm meadow]

Personnally I macroed

Avatar + Spear/Roar
Ravager + Reck

Am I a lazy person ? Yes I am

[opal monolith]

is droptimizer for bullion vendor a bit scuffed?

it wont sim fyra at 535

or eranog ring

[cerulean gyro]

guys
am i utterly trash or has the new tier decreased our dps?

[opal monolith]

no its true

[cerulean gyro]

damn

[plush plume]

Did you respec to the RB spec?

[cerulean gyro]

Yes
I used Wowheads talents for MT/ST and M+
I have 4p

[plush plume]

Yeah, it's trash

[mossy fox]

your ST when getting new 4 set is usually about the same as the old 4 set (can vary a bit depending on the new set's ilvl)

[viral plaza]

people voted and the same people complain

I liked the odyns build

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-shame-gif-26273082

[clever escarp]

i hated it with pure passion

to hell with it

[sudden thicket]

Well they did say they would balance them so 🙃

[cerulean gyro]

I liked S3, S4 not so much ngl

[viral plaza]

and people put their trust in blizz

[opal monolith]

this is supposed to be 535 right

on droptimizer raidbots

if u set it to 12/12 it stays 528

[mossy fox]

Use top gear to add it as 535 and sim it

[opal monolith]

okay

[cerulean gyro]

I see
I'll play some more but rn i am not doing good but ig it takes some time to get used to the new rotation etc

[opal monolith]

eranog ring is actually capped at 528 then @mossy fox not 535 right

[mossy fox]

correct

[ashen aurora]

Is the bug fixed for the legendary?

[mossy fox]

no

[opal monolith]

thx mate:)

[sudden thicket]

Press rampage or press other buttons until you can press rampage. Press bloodthirst when ka-ching. Ez

[cerulean gyro]

Yaa i mean the rotation isn't too hard

[ashen aurora]

🤣🤣🤣 no way they still didn’t what a shit game

[cerulean gyro]

just muscle memory messing with me

[noble frost]

pepeg question
anyone has the s4 set weakaura tracker?

[kind bolt]

what best buy with buliuns

[noble frost]

basically showing the icon and stack count on a big ass popup

[viral plaza]

equipped my new tier set gained like 15 ilevels and somehow broke even on dps

[ashen aurora]

Should be legendary upgrade if it works XD

[viral plaza]

switch to arms and I gain 45k dps from going to new tier

[noble frost]

this

[vapid spade]

is the weapon upgrade for legendary bugged? friend of mine upgraded his evoker legendary and to 502 (4/12 Awakened) but now he can't upgrade further 🤔

[chrome plover]

what does hero tier go up to

[chrome plover]

yes

[tardy lark]

522

[chrome plover]

thought so ty

[vapid spade]

ok thx

[tardy lark]

Innit

[kind bolt]

that makes snse but if we got no legen

[chrome plover]

check pins

[silent burrow]

Obtain orange

[vocal gazelle]

No rush on that, doesn’t upgrade anyway now

Small indie company and all

[flat river]

i got 2 bullions

but people say it's bugged

and shouldn't buy yet

;-;

[silent burrow]

eh you can still do it

just can't use aspects to upgrade it yet

Ain't like the prio has changed

[flat river]

oh

so

i can buy it

but can't upgrade it

basically

[fallen ginkgo]

yes

[flat river]

with crests

ok good

[silent burrow]

It'll go 502

[fast mural]

you think it gets hotfixed or patched since they said its gonna take a while

[flat river]

can i upgrade it with wyrm crests?

and other crests?

or cant upgrade with any crests in general

[fast mural]

you cant

nothing

[flat river]

kk

oh yeah

can't even put it in

wait that sounded sus

[reef escarp]

truthful build ?

[lean wasp]

new tier we pressed avatar first ?

[opal monolith]

it doesnt matter anymore

they fixed that

early s3

[lean wasp]

lmao

[opal monolith]

kinda min maxy question, say ur between 70-79 rage, u got onslaught up and got reck up

will u press it and overcap some rage?

or raging blow rampage then onslaught after?

[modest condor]

it's been a while since i checked it so im not 100% but im pretty sure just sending onslaught was better

[opal monolith]

alright 🙂

[dark elbow]

I dont like the other options for single target with the new tierset

[fervent turtle]

Ok i just did my first key with S2/S4 set and i tell ya, thank fckn god it won

its so good, its so fun

[warm crag]

no problem king its what i rigged the vote for 🫡

[sullen dove]

[fervent turtle]

praise you!

[dire badge]

🫡

[sullen dove]

spongus propaganda to make everyone play arms

(its working)

[shut current]

Any particular trinkets I should be hunting from m+?

[fervent turtle]

puzzle box

[shut current]

Ta

[quick schooner]

hello Guys just open my accout i wanna play season 4 . and i want to know if arms or fury better for mythic plus so i can plan my gear better

[warm crag]

cosmetic rage bar spec

[proper veldt]

is the bullion still bugged?

[sterile dagger]

again we returned to this awful set 😦 more item level

but still sim 5k lower

in 4p

its amazing

[spice marlin]

is s3 2p + s4 2p worth more than s3 4p? as fury both raid/m+

[sullen dove]

not rly

wanna keep s3 4p till s4 4p for the most part

[sterile dagger]

got s4 4p, lost 5k dps in sim

[sullen dove]

u prolly *can wear 2/2 as s3 talents if u want

[unreal pollen]

I aint never giving up S34p, you can't make me

[sullen dove]

only 3% dps loss in max gear to keep wearing it btw

[sterile dagger]

i dont have max gear, its obvious

but i had 290k... and now its 286k...

ok not 5k, but 4k

[unreal pollen]

I lose 39k in sims swapping the geart

[sterile dagger]

i was wandering who the hell voted for this piece of shit tier set

just curious

[plush acorn]

arms players voted it

[sterile dagger]

literally the worst out of 3

for fury

[sullen dove]

i mean.. s1 was pretty bad...

[blissful kestrel]

I'm simming 45k higher as arms 😦

[sterile dagger]

i would rather play crushing blow

then this...

[sullen dove]

i would too but thats pre 10.0.5 talents.. not the tier set...

actual tier set in s1 was worthless...

[sterile dagger]

u r right 😦

[sullen dove]

s2 has like an ounce of worth

[fluid scarab]

HOW TO spend bullion if you dont have the leg?

[blissful kestrel]

Get ring probs

[fluid scarab]

is it better to take a weapon or a trinket?

[sullen dove]

#updates-midnight

[cedar edge]

fr

[fervent turtle]

Augury is more rare, so you might want to go for it

[quaint stag]

Most of us voted for it for the playstyle not dmg profile. The fact they didn’t tune properly is on blizzard. I voted s2 on playstyle alone

[cedar edge]

could not imagine putting faith in blizzard

[chrome plover]

could not imagine voting to play the same build twice in a row when given the option

(i did)

[quiet geyser]

I love these people who claim critcake is the evil doer who made s2 happen

[vague moon]

i voted for s1

[chrome plover]

critcake bizentein EVIL ruined fury FOREVER

[sullen dove]

see youre actually

[quaint stag]

Luckily it’s a meme season that doesn’t matter so I’m happy it’s a fun playstyle because I hated s3 compared to s2

[vague moon]

the entire xpac fury have bad tier

[quiet geyser]

We've already deemed the terms xanbagging and xeosing.. now we need a term for critcakes apparent ability to influence people

[sullen dove]

sim 40k higher as arms

[cedar edge]

buff fury

[vague moon]

fixed?

[oak bear]

s3 was good and u got decent execute. now you just get carpal tunnel syndrome while doing tank dmg

[sullen dove]

real

s2 enjoyers gonna flip REAL quick when they step foot into amirdrassil thats for damn sure

raid built around of

[fervent turtle]

what's your problem, they obviously listened!

[sullen dove]

have fun on tindral

[cedar edge]

[sterile dagger]

so true

while spamming buttons

like pepega

[quaint stag]

Idk I find it fun. I started retail in shadowlands when fury was gigabad in s1 and still stuck with it since

[sterile dagger]

and the most good part about s3 tier except execute and a lot of benefits - was the ability to ACTUALLY USE CD

and not like now where it feels like u always have recklessness with no damage, and no REAL CD

[modest condor]

oh is it mald o clock again?

[sterile dagger]

yeap

[cedar edge]

always has been

[lean wasp]

in aoe or st exec>> raging blow ??

[modest condor]

man you're so right i cant believe we dont play ravager, avatar and spear/roar with s2

[sullen dove]

12% more damage while they're up

[cedar edge]

just give us 12 variations of slam, its what we deserve

[sterile dagger]

yeah

[quaint stag]

For m+ you have your cd’s every single pack, don’t even have to use brain and think when to use them for the most part

[left perch]

Fury is meta???

[manic gulch]

warrior meta kek

[fervent turtle]

got one!

[sullen dove]

bro thinks he got vhys

[fervent turtle]

bro thinks i think i got vyhs

[sullen dove]

bro thinks cubed

[modest condor]

bro thinks

couldnt be me

[eternal sundial]

logs work well rn

love it

[chrome plover]

lol noob

[eternal sundial]

real

[median marsh]

s4 ilvl 503 ST 1 boss 5 minute sim 264.7k dps
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cKeoXprhxjTTFoe5uo7ubU

s3 ilvl 497 ST 1 boss 5 minute sim 261.6k dps
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4Nnohz7tSUVkmDGG1Z8hYJ

wtf

[eternal sundial]

yep

its not a good set for st

[chrome plover]

looks normal to me

[eternal sundial]

you arent the first to notice that

[median marsh]

is that going to be like this even later on?

[chrome plover]

yes

[eternal sundial]

your set does always suck

[median marsh]

i will go back to s3 set lol

[ashen socket]

I still have mine lol

Use it in raid

[median marsh]

how is this situation in aoe tho?

[ashen socket]

Or might use it in raid

[fervent turtle]

i just cleared HC aberrus in a PUG, raids do not matter anyway in this season

on opening day..

[sullen basin]

you guys lied there are 0 heroic fyrakk groups going even on reset day because all the paladins are dps not healers

[chilly fractal]

I never lie

That’s a lie

[ashen socket]

Is the axe still bugged?

[sullen basin]

no go upgrade it

[ashen socket]

Can we not upgrade it still?

[teal sable]

How do I upgrade leggo

[sullen basin]

throw stones at it

[flat river]

bugged

[chrome plover]

you can't atm it's bugged

[ashen socket]

zzzzz

[teal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/pishro-gif-246240179975551191

[chrome plover]

im surprised tbh, but yeah i guess there's no healers wanting it

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/my-reaction-to-that-information-gif-26949018

[teal sable]

I laughed so much I got upgraded

[flat river]

kek

[chilly fractal]

Upgrayedd

[warm crag]

this is me rn

[chilly fractal]

All star points seem to work

[rotund ginkgo]

i dont think anyone needs ashkandur except fury warrs right?

[rotund ginkgo]

real, me, you also destroyed me on everything, very sad

[chrome plover]

people who dont have a legendary do

[rotund ginkgo]

in MY defense i made a group with no monk, had no windfury AND suffered from weird lags

@chrome plover im talkin about like in an organized situation

e.g. guild is killing mythic echo

or something

[eternal sundial]

my magmo is criminally low i thiunk

zkarn too

[rotund ginkgo]

nah mine was abyssmal

i just ran a pug

with like 16 smart people

[eternal sundial]

this also was full pug

[sullen basin]

yeah

[chrome plover]

same situation right? people could return to the game this season and play in an organised setting but not get legendary for up to 14 weeks

[rotund ginkgo]

assuming everyone has leggo

[chrome plover]

but everyone will use legendary if they have it yes

[sullen basin]

i dont have the lego so i picked it with my bars

[eternal sundial]

we wiped on the other sark pull but i was at 330

😔

[rotund ginkgo]

@eternal sundial gonna go agane lul

[ebon junco]

70k*

[eternal sundial]

fucked up very hard on kill

didnt go down for p3 xdd

[polar needle]

Same if I get the Lego I’ll get the upgrade next

[eternal sundial]

skipped 2nd adds

[rotund ginkgo]

holding on my heroic for raid

for guild

so mby if it drops i can secure myself the lille asscandy

[vague moon]

leggo fixed?

[polar needle]

No

[eternal sundial]

ye i cope i will get good loot

[rotund ginkgo]

did yall alrdy scale of awakening the leggo?

[vague moon]

imagine needing more than 20 hours to put a item on upgrade list

[rotund ginkgo]

i havent bought it yet

surely theres no reason NOT to buy it right?

[chilly fractal]

Either way it was going in there

So I bought it

[eternal sundial]

no

[sullen basin]

if

[eternal sundial]

waiting for fix

[polar needle]

I’d say only reason would be if you don’t have the Lego yet

[rotund ginkgo]

i got leggo

[polar needle]

The. Ya I’d get it

[sullen basin]

my first hero kill was like 7 weeks into patch

and i only got 8 logged kills so no guaranteed drop yet

might have been 9 weeks in

[vague moon]

i got in on my 11th hc

[polar needle]

Ya I’ve got like 20 some kills with no and h runs with no drop

[sullen dove]

die

[sullen basin]

thats like 20odd% chance grats

[lucid terrace]

it's pretty cool to watch fury warriors use their CDs every pack and do 0 damage with them

[sullen basin]

15 normal 8 heroic logged for me

and like 20 lfrs

[chilly fractal]

I got mine the 2nd week the axe was available

[sullen basin]

on those heroic after the first one i got maybe 15 total lessers

[polar needle]

I fell that

[sullen basin]

so i should have about a 2000% drop chance next kill

[lucid terrace]

don’t even have to use brain
but you can live up to the fury warrior fantasy so there's that

[sullen basin]

from lfr too?

first time?

[chilly fractal]

Lol no heroic

[hasty path]

Local warrior too angry to think

[hard relic]

Hell yeah my fantasy is being a useless fuck

[marble schooner]

we gave Ashkandur yday to our bdk tank whos hellbent on not getting the leggo

[lucid terrace]

for the record i dont even play warrior xD

[chrome plover]

why

[hasty path]

Based, mostly same

I just shitpost

[chilly fractal]

Sounds like he’s hellbent on just pissing you off

[chrome plover]

u need to play with better warriors :/

[lucid terrace]

but you dont have to use brain <3

[lucid terrace]

i mean if the guy is doing his sims dps but that means 30% less damage than the paladin that when "reee divine storm"

[subtle lagoon]

They didn't fix lego upgrade beause we'd be broken with full ilvl legendary, it'll be fixed next week when other players catch up with gear

[hasty path]

Copege

[chrome plover]

sim dps in keys is not real

[lucid terrace]

i mean in st against the bosses it is xD

[marble schooner]

Im the only main fury atm and got it on vault so nobody minded

[lucid terrace]

and you're not uncapped to actually be able to compete some specs

[chrome plover]

ok but 'cds every pack doing 0 damage' ur guy sucks

[lucid terrace]

it's fine if you plan on doing 20s ngl

like the point is: same ilvl and same skill you'll have 10% less damage than an ok class

(20% if we talking meta)

[lofty scroll]

alright i've been messing with talents and noticed that archon is still using OF in m+ overall with s4's tier set

https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/fury/warrior/mythic-plus/talents/10/all-dungeons/this-week#alternative-talents

[lucid terrace]

you do more damage than affliction though

[lofty scroll]

but my build from s3 still beats it

[lost pasture]

Is there a rotation guide on the S4 set? I can't seem to find it in faq or pins

[hasty path]

Have you considered that sites like archon suck ass

[lofty scroll]

youtube

i guess lol

[chrome plover]

it's on wowhead

[lofty scroll]

yes i did

[lost pasture]

Is the wowhead article actually useful? I've found a few inconsistencies on that page for fury

[lofty scroll]

its an easy rotation

[marble schooner]

only read the AoE opener cuz I did remember it was important but the rotation now is just rampage psychospam till BT is full crit and rip it no?

[hasty path]

The author is active here so you can ask him directly @edgy widget for clarification or comment

[sullen basin]

why are healers so flaky

[lost pasture]

So is it really just keep hitting raging blow and rampage until the WA pings over that 95%?

[chrome plover]

u wanna use onslaught on cd but pretty much yeah

[lofty scroll]

for the most part archon the new subcreation is right overall

[hasty path]

Because they’re mostly playing healer to get faster queues

[hasty path]

Archon is dogshit

Most aggregator sites are

archon is like really bad

[chrome plover]

on season start after a build change especially

all kinds of fucked up

[lofty scroll]

oooo do you know a better site. so i could try it?

[quaint stag]

Pretty much yeah with onslaught in between

[marble schooner]

oh yeah fs

[hasty path]

Just look at logs, ask questions, etc

Figure out why talents are picked

Don’t just look copy paste go

[chrome plover]

wowhead guide > logs > ask

[lofty scroll]

already did that

😦

no luck

[chrome plover]

in that order all your questions should be answerable

[hasty path]

Ok so what else do you need

How do you have no luck

[lost pasture]

Appreciate it. It was a big change from S3 and tbh it's not as fun missing out on my half a million bloodthirsts for 120k crits now.

[lofty scroll]

the tier still needs tuning

[unreal pollen]

If I still don't have a solid weapon after awakened LFR this week, should I just bulion my way to a Bonecrusher?

[hasty path]

What is the problem you’re tryi mg to solve

[chrome plover]

ye the tier fuckin blows no one in here is solving that one

[hasty path]

You mean an ashkandur?

[chrome plover]

it's fun to play though

[unreal pollen]

I don't see it in the vendor, just Bonecrusher and Soulcleaver

[lofty scroll]

its alright haha ill live with it

[unreal pollen]

am I missing something

[hasty path]

There’s 3 vendors

It will be in the one for Aberrus gear

Also are you not upgrading leggos

[lofty scroll]

what are the caps for stats

[hasty path]

There aren’t

[unreal pollen]

Never got it

[lofty scroll]

is it 30 for haste

[marble schooner]

idk just checked logs for the AV15 posted on Archon and tho the fury guy IS behind by 20% he also has like 10 less ilvl than the other dps so idk

[vague moon]

5500 for 10% pen i think

[lost pasture]

I got Ashkandur hero (in bags) last night from raid. But still no leggo. Is it worth it swapping from what I have with basically any other epic hero weapon I can acquire until then?

[hasty path]

Make sure you hit 11% hit rating and 8% expertise

[lost pasture]

Like to titans instead of SMF?

[lucid terrace]

ok so you're playing with shit people

[hasty path]

Sim it

[lofty scroll]

for s4?

[vague moon]

39% mastery just how

[lucid terrace]

https://i.imgur.com/tE7jjry.png

[hasty path]

Stat caps aren’t a thing in modern wow for the majority of specs

[lofty scroll]

...............uh you sure

[lucid terrace]

im not showing you the average tank damage though

[hasty path]

Yes

[lost pasture]

Still pretty garbage loot imo

[lofty scroll]

okie dokie

[chrome plover]

is ashkandur from heroic on myth track?

[hasty path]

Hard caps are a relic

[chrome plover]

cant remember

[lucid terrace]

because i dont want people to get traumatized reallising top vdh would outdps the average fury

[hasty path]

Save for specific things like frost mage crit

[lost pasture]

No it's not a very rare drop

[vague moon]

i would play arms with that

[chrome plover]

oh yeah ty

[lofty scroll]

a lot of people still say it on youtube

but ok lol

[marble schooner]

this is like posting a Warcraftlogs ranking and saying that its proof

[hasty path]

A lot of people are dumb

[chrome plover]

classic

[lofty scroll]

hahahahha

[lost pasture]

I did and currently it's saying use my Ashkandur and a 1H lol and that seems odd

[hasty path]

There’s what are often referred to as “soft caps”, which are basically DR brackets that increase over time

The higher you go in one stat, the less % per point you’re getting at certain breakpoints

But those aren’t true caps in most cases

[lost pasture]

Also, what is a mastery % I should be looking for?

[hasty path]

Brother

Please read what I’m saying to the other person

[lofty scroll]

over 60 i believe

[lucid terrace]

i mean if your class is bottom tier on every boss, it either mean everybody at this pspec is shit OR they are assigned to specific mechanics OR the numbers are not there

[hasty path]

That directly answers your question

[lofty scroll]

yup

[errant pond]

anyone have the weakaura for the fury set

[marble schooner]

for example, if arms is considered better than fury atm for M+, then most of all competent fury warrs will go Arms for pushing, esp if they push solo, that makes a bias toward Arms dps being higher because most geared warriors are playing arms atm

[lofty scroll]

wait nvm i read the question wrong

[lost pasture]

'ppreciate

[lucid terrace]

ok but maybe if they do that it's because it's better

because otherwise they would stay fury and do more damage

[lofty scroll]

thats where it starts

[lucid terrace]

also it could mean that shit player are rerolling to arms and inting arm's parses thinkingit's meta

[icy torrent]

[lucid terrace]

also if you look carefully there are more runs as fury than arms

[marble schooner]

thats just cause Fury is like top 3 most popular specs overall

so bad players gravitate toward fury

[sullen basin]

why cant people read? just had to leave a group after 20 minutes of inviting where people somehow thought it was a heroic aberrus (it was amirdrassil), was not a skip run either
mostly warriors, because i guess we're the stupid class? kept asking "skip run?" then leaving on a no, or people running to aberrus

[marble schooner]

if anything fury is one of the most affected by bad players pulling the average down

[sullen basin]

real thats me

fury is one of the specs of all time at high levels of play

[rotund ginkgo]

is 515/496 leggo better than 515/509 no leggo?

[edgy widget]

Fury is very popular even when not meta yeah, despite wits dominance Arms guide page views are dramatically lower

[hasty path]

It’s like Ret and BM

[lucid terrace]

which makes same, why have one weapon when you can have two

[lost pasture]

Two weapons better than one xD

[rotund ginkgo]

easier class with bonkier numbers = more players

[hasty path]

No matter how good or bad they are they will be popular

[rotund ginkgo]

fr tho

classes are just more satisfying

satisfying to play easy class > satisfying to play hard class (for the most part)

fortified bolstering moment

[chrome plover]

arms is a hard class?

[rotund ginkgo]

no, but fury is objectively easier

[chrome plover]

people were in here earlier saying fury is harder idk I think they’re kinda the same

[clever escarp]

both are braindead

[chrome plover]

in the current iteration at least

[chrome plover]

exactly

[edgy widget]

Fury easier cause arms is a fuckin mess atm

[hasty path]

Fury is historically a very simple spec

[marble schooner]

also fury class fantasy is badass/edgy so it draws more people than the standard arms warrior fantasy

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

exactly

[lofty scroll]

well arms you got think a little more

[rotund ginkgo]

same as ret pally

BIG HOLY SWORD

BZOOM PSHOU

[lofty scroll]

but both are easy

[rotund ginkgo]

yy ofc

but in the sense of simplicity

fury is simpler

[lofty scroll]

agreed

[rotund ginkgo]

and FEELS (imo) better

like class fantasy

[glad coyote]

obv simms says arms for m+ but you think there will be a bigger difference?

[rotund ginkgo]

"attack fast big swords"

[lost pasture]

I just want bladestorm back on fury

[rotund ginkgo]

yh imo TWW fury will skyrocket in popularity

[subtle lagoon]

Funny way to spell demon hunter

[rotund ginkgo]

as if its not played rn KEK