I’m just confused why you’d make that statement
#fury
olive wraith
lofty scroll
ahh ok lol. me too
olive wraith
What
tired widget
gguys I have 2 set now of s4. When should i swap the build? I am still running annihilator atm
olive wraith
gguys I have 2 set now of s4. When should i swap the build? I am still running a...
Keep using s3 until 4p
tired widget
Thanks Kalaiath
olive wraith
Get good I got my asscandi last week
calm mantle
Get good I got my asscandi last week
at what ilvl and how?
olive wraith
Champ track from the weekly
tired widget
i got a simple waist 🙂
clever path
can you get myth track accelerating sandglass, or only hero track?
mental rune
Only hero
clever path
even in HM?
desert cloud
Guys
vale elk
s4 set sims 60k lower on dungeon slice than s3 set...
desert cloud
Did they fix lego issue ?
vale elk
feelsbad
desert cloud
For na people
silent burrow
s4 set sims 60k lower on dungeon slice than s3 set...
with wrong talents
sullen dove
s4 set sims 60k lower on dungeon slice than s3 set...
did u swap talents to s4 talents..
that seems way too low
vale elk
yes lol
sullen dove
ain’t no way
desert cloud
Hell nah
sullen dove
soda hand it over
desert cloud
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iG6NXZ9KreTHXPCr1ZD5BC
Hell nah
sullen dove
bro..
desert cloud
Instead of slice
olive wraith
D slice is very diff than 5t
sullen dove
lofty scroll
yeah same with mine...and i cant figure it out
lofty scroll
im simming my m+ build
feral ivy
should i put recklessness and ravanger on a macro together and avatar and roar on a separate macro?
vale elk
ok s4 is like 10k higher with aoe build lol
slate mica
10k lol
lofty scroll
its probably gear or somethinbg
brittle folio
lol its quite the drop
nimble ibex
Yeah
olive wraith
Ya that’ll do it
nimble ibex
Is that why
olive wraith
S4 has less st
lofty scroll
im doing dailes haha
feral ivy
only prob im having with my rotations i keep hitting bloodthirst to early becasue its a habbit to spam 1,2,1,2
sullen dove
move bloodthirst off your 2
feral ivy
yea i keep moving it lol
sullen dove
or like What were your previous “1, 2” you used to spam
slate mica
its stupid
sullen dove
cuz the only buttons you “spammed” last season was rank and bb/bt
slate mica
jump 8-9 ilevels but do less dmg
clever path
why is everyone using D-slice, isn't that still hot garbage for a sim?
slate mica
i know "we voted for it"
sullen dove
u just replace bb with raging blow
fair star
is fury good this patch
calm mantle
Nice little payday incoming
eternal sundial
socket surely
calm mantle
Dude what the fuck are these rolls
only two dropped in my raid D:
silent burrow
like 6 people rolled 100s
lofty scroll
wow haha
torpid sand
time for edgy boss
olive wraith
is fury good this patch
No
desert cloud
is fury good this patch
Hell nah
hoary vortex
Hey guys I just used the Scale of Awaking in my leggo but when I go to upgrade it further using crests it’s not showing up? Is there an other way to increase ilvl on the axe?
torpid sand
no sword drops for both normal and hc nelth
olive wraith
why is everyone using D-slice, isn't that still hot garbage for a sim?
It’s decent
torpid sand
Hey guys I just used the Scale of Awaking in my leggo but when I go to upgrade i...
it`s bugged currently
desert cloud
Fury is just as bad as survival hunter currently
clever path
is this all awakened gear or just the lego?
hoary vortex
it`s bugged currently
Aww that’s lame as fuck
wispy dock
so no leggo, but myth weapon in vault im guessing i take the myth weapon ya?
eternal sundial
for fury id do hc nelth first
olive wraith
Are you not farming for leggo
unkempt grotto
Unless youve got a diurnas or something BIS looking. Taling weapons shortterm good. But maybe not longterm economical
sullen basin
looking forward to this getting buffed next reset
wispy dock
i am farming for leggo
olive wraith
looking forward to this getting buffed next reset
??
sullen basin
defensive stance and enraged regen only option for spear, spell reflect/enraged regen only option for magic damage right?
wispy dock
victory rush
olive wraith
Who said anything about buffs
ashen socket
defensive stance and enraged regen only option for spear, spell reflect/enraged ...
Skill issue
unkempt grotto
Getting a heal over 6 seconds somewhere is a good option too.
eternal sundial
defensive stance and enraged regen only option for spear, spell reflect/enraged ...
bro just have a healer
lmao
56k is criminally low rot
sullen basin
previous pull was a bit sus tho
dim meadow
If you have leggo should you get ashkandur first or upgrade leggo?
sullen basin
is it a skill issue if i cant equip my higher ilvl gear because of season 3 tier
sullen basin
yeah i got 2665 last season im not really a big key player
tame yarrow
If you have leggo should you get ashkandur first or upgrade leggo?
Always leggo
olive wraith
Fury always good, you just need gear
You’re funny
dim meadow
You’re funny
It's the truth.
sullen basin
Fury always good, you just need gear
yeah like 30 ilvls higher than any other spec
median ferry
Leg leveling fixed yet?
olive wraith
Remind me in 2 weeks when fury is still on the bottom
dim meadow
Once you have gear fury will scale. We are more reliant on gear since we 2 good weapons
steep fable
Leg leveling fixed yet?
they will probably sit on it until EU reset
median ferry
they will probably sit on it until EU reset
thank you
dim meadow
If ur a doomer you'll say fury is bad, that what ppl in this discord say at the start of every patch lol
olive wraith
Take a look at the s2 stats
lofty scroll
agreed
olive wraith
We were middle
ashen socket
Fury is fine, Unless you compare it to arms
olive wraith
This season everyone has their best tier except fury
ashen socket
Yeah
feral ivy
is arms better at single tg than fury atm?
lofty scroll
1 week has passed and already
lofty scroll
true
dim meadow
This season everyone has their best tier except fury
Season 2 tier was the best reason it got voted.
If you had season 2 tier you'd know how good it was.
ashen socket
Season 2 tier was the best reason it got voted.
The reason it got voted was cause EU cheated it
dim meadow
Makes sense cause it's the best one, I voted for it
olive wraith
Go look at the dps increases
ashen socket
Its not lol
lofty scroll
yup
ashen socket
You get punished for getting a mech with this tier set compared to last
dim meadow
Season 3 is meh
lofty scroll
last weeks raid i felt it
dim meadow
I think season 3 is buns tbh
olive wraith
You can like am/rav play style but purely numbers s3 is better
sterile kraken
Do we 2p 2p
sterile kraken
sweet thank you!
dim meadow
Storm of swords and annihilator are buns
lofty scroll
guys we are argueing based opinions, for the most part
olive wraith
That’s your take and that’s fine
dim meadow
Nah it's true that why they're gogin away in TWW
lofty scroll
haha
olive wraith
Play style is subjective
red berry
people are referring to numbers
the numbers were better
i disliked SOS though
personlaly
it was stronger tho
dim meadow
It feels like buns compared to s2 tier tbh
sullen basin
The reason it got voted was cause EU cheated it
wish i cheated it in favour of s3 because thats what i voted for (i am eu)
red berry
ok
olive wraith
^this guy gets it. You can hate the playstyle but you can’t argue s2 had better dps increase
dim meadow
I'll wait for the scale 😈
olive wraith
Good luck
dim meadow
Don't need it
olive wraith
Hey siri remind me in 2 weeks
red berry
you're arguing over nothing you repeated yourself four times and its contradicting directly what archi and anyone who know what the'yre talking about has said. its not just copium
olive wraith
Whatever you say
red berry
'scaling' isn't real
s2 is better for keys though
in theory
im not sure i feel that in practice
what you need to hope for is tuning
that's not coming though
lofty scroll
man i thoufht it was gonna be this week
red berry
nah
dim meadow
Just deal with it then
olive wraith
I’m not expecting any significant tuning for fury
red berry
like has been said probably not before TPG
and not probably significant enough to deal with the differential, no
torpid sand
i'm gonna fucking cry
sullen basin
no tuning expected for fury until 13.0
red berry
Just deal with it then
deal with what. you were the one pushing something here
are you talking about yourself dealing with it
chrome plover
light tapir
Thicc neck
flint narwhal
did they fix lego yet
dim meadow
deal with what. you were the one pushing something here
Just deal until changes happen or play arms
lofty scroll
yup
humble plover
I'm sure there will be an announcement that it's fixed
olive wraith
I am playing arms already lol. This all started cause someone asked if fury was bad and it is comparatively
feral ivy
can someone help me with this 😦 i did "dungeon splice" isntead of "patch work"
dim meadow
Usually arms starts off better
light tapir
did they fix lego yet
Nope they just made a blue post though saying they are aware, it's a priority fix but will take time
eternal sundial
Usually arms starts off better
hasnt done so the last 3 tiers xd
light tapir
So rip
dim meadow
Fury will usually out scale later
upbeat sentinel
I am playing arms already lol. This all started cause someone asked if fury was ...
Fury vote gets blatantly cheated, so make fury terrible until next expac so controversy is forgotten
soft orbit
was the leggo upgrade error reported on ptr?
modest condor
Fury will usually out scale later
this is retail not wotlk classic
red berry
thank you
dim meadow
Oh well just deal with it or play something else
modest condor
pray for buffs
red berry
okay?
modest condor
like they promised
dim meadow
I got what I voted for
olive wraith
In no world will current fury “scale” up to current arms
dense elbow
We scale with gear 
dim meadow
Oh well you good ur not playing fury anyways
modest condor
if anything fury scales garbage right now
we lost one of our biggest gains with ilvl when enrage uptime became 100%
olive wraith
I’m just stating facts my guy
upbeat sentinel
In no world will current fury “scale” up to current arms
Na dog we just need a 20% damage aura buff 🤡
dim meadow
Week 2 of the season and we havent even gotten all of the gear avaible yet nor max upgrades. You gotta wait it out and deal or just play arms
red berry
wait so is the legendary upgrade still broken
balmy shore
no longer pantless!! i have pants!!
dim meadow
nothing wrong with switching
main dragon
y'all are feeding this dude so hard right now that his stomach is gonna explode
lofty scroll
ok lol
dim meadow
wait so is the legendary upgrade still broken
Somoone said it was fixed i think
upbeat sentinel
Week 2 of the season and we havent even gotten all of the gear avaible yet nor m...
We’re completely capable of simming gear we don’t yet have.
dim meadow
But idk I'm gonna wait
red berry
this dude is feeding himself
red berry
Somoone said it was fixed i think
thanks
balmy shore
yo if fury still sucks i'm playing arms
modest condor
it's not fixed
red berry
bummer
upbeat sentinel
We know what Fury looks like at max gear because sims exist
It’s still fucking ass compared to Arms
modest condor
just wait for the wowhead article saying it's fixed
lofty scroll
yo if fury still sucks i'm playing arms
hey more power to you
modest condor
also thanks for beta testing again NA
dim meadow
Hot take, actual game play over sims 💯
red berry
i am being held at gunpoint
sullen basin
balmy shore
eu playing baby mode yet again...
main dragon
game play ain't that good when you're not getting invited to groups down the road
dim meadow
you're in a channel full of crayon eaters
That's true no cap
soft orbit
game play ain't that good when you're not getting invited to groups down the roa...
hate to break it to you but playing arms or fury wont change how often you will get invited
dim meadow
game play ain't that good when you're not getting invited to groups down the roa...
Guild and social groups exist. I pug damn near everyhting
feral ivy
guys which combo should i do 506 puzzle, ireideus, idol of trampling hooves
granite rampart
Well the new tier set is going to take more getting used to than i thought! I feel like I'm doing less damage, which I'm sure is just dusting off raging blow use muscle memory
dim meadow
puzzle and hooves i think but idk
feral ivy
i did a frag and hooves did 305k for a 9 so imma try that combo
feral ivy
on this 9
low portal
what should I buy, dont got lego weapon and alrdy did norm/heroic to get it today
dim meadow
I say do awakened this week to try to get ashkandur
unkempt grotto
Icy put out a "everyones best boulions" guide.
low portal
I say do awakened this week to try to get ashkandur
alrdy did heroic hopefully get it from norm 🙂
outer ridge
silent burrow
~~also thanks for beta testing again NA~~
tame yarrow
Why are amirdrassil items in raid rows?
amber kite
Hello. Sorry to bother i have a friend that is starting the game and has no tier set. What talent build shoul;d he use for dungeon?
Wowhead give one for s3 and one for s4 but none for no tier
soft orbit
the s4 should work for no tier
amber kite
ok nice ty
olive wraith
S4 build but replace the bt talents for execute/rb talents
clever path
Well the new tier set is going to take more getting used to than i thought! I fe...
Nah it’s just bad
Jokes aside
It is entirely different from season 3
Different tempo and different damage profile
lofty scroll
i saw that haha
red berry
it tried
lofty scroll
your good man
slate mica
End of the day both in sims and game testing in mythic plus and having 8 ilvl higher the anger manager s4 tier is barely a dps increase maybe even on par with s3 and lower ilevel
tiny estuary
how to upgrade the leggo past ilev 502?
olive wraith
how to upgrade the leggo past ilev 502?
It’s bugged rn
cold fable
Wait for fix^^
tiny estuary
figures
olive wraith
End of the day both in sims and game testing in mythic plus and having 8 ilvl hi...
Welp people like the playstyle 🤷
lofty scroll
what monitor are you using? dang its clear asf
red berry
AW34DWF
plush gazelle
what monitor are you using? dang its clear asf
lol wtf what does it matter for monitor when its a screen shot...
red berry
its just 1440P idk if that'd
edgy widget
why would his monitor have to do with it being clear? lol
lofty scroll
thats nice man
edgy widget
better question is what did you use to take the screenshot
red berry
just windows tbh
edgy widget
I'm assuming the windows tool yeah
pine crater
Tyy
edgy widget
it actually takes really nice, full rez shots
lofty scroll
yup lol
red berry
its not so good for HDR, though
lofty scroll
same
red berry
if you happen to use HDR it cannot do those
edgy widget
I use gyazo for quick linking stuff online because it auto uploads to a server, but it does degrade the quality somewhat
red berry
i used to use gyazo
edgy widget
its nice for sharing quickly, definitely not the best for fidelity though
young swan
windows + shift + s gang
sullen basin
windows? that button is called start
lofty scroll
if you use your monitor for more than just gaming, dont buy an oled right now lol
young swan
windows key
sullen basin
yeah its called start
young swan
always will be windows key
split coyote
Hey Arch, for your BT weakaura, is there a way to just show the BT crit%? I can't seem to turn off the icons
lofty scroll
i can see a difference on the text
edgy widget
actually your monitor size might matter, your shot is interestingly large (maybe resolution scale in game)
lofty scroll
look on wago
edgy widget
just to compare
lofty scroll
im using an msi 34 inch oled screen but im going to swap it out when the updated version arrives. it really sucks on the text display.
red berry
actually your monitor size might matter, your shot is interestingly large (maybe...
it is ultrawide
so the aspect ratio is probably more to do with it i think
edgy widget
yeah that might be it
some of the stuff looks a little different, like my bullion are skinned(?) a lil diff
actually that might be masque doing it
red berry
im using an msi 34 inch oled screen but im going to swap it out when the updated...
thats indicative of the text rendering on QD-OLEDs in general
its worse on 1440P panels
edgy widget
but your text definitely looks bolder too
red berry
it won't be a problem next generation probably
lofty scroll
yeah i agree
red berry
you might be better off with the WOLEDS dropping. or an LG C3-C4
lofty scroll
the graphics are awesome but the text sucks
edgy widget
In case yall didn't notice, there's a new #updates-midnight channel for Pre-Patch specific stuff, just like the one for The War Within Alpha
Going forward, it will be the spot for more day-to-date updates for Warriors, like
- major news - not WH bot spam, just particularly important things like "hey, the legendary upgrade is bugged!"
- major APL updates - not going to post every last thing, but things that majorly affects rotations/talents/decision making will get an update
- editorials & blueposts - again, the ones specific or important to Warriors
The intent is to largely replace pins with a more visible indicator of new information for things that are important at the time but naturally lose importance over the course of a season/patch/expansion - if you don't mute it, the channel should light up whenever there's a new post, or you can hit the follow button for more obvious alerts. There's also another very minor secret feature hidden within for yall to discover.
Pins will still be used for more permanent notices that we don't want to get lost after a few updates, but shouldn't be as saturated by short-term information anymore (obviously we'll play this by ear, and feel free to leave your own feedback as time goes on).
lofty scroll
thank you
lofty scroll
is it only windows 10?
red berry
nah W11 too
lofty scroll
awesome! thank you
red berry
yeah enjoy hope it helps at all
lofty scroll
im sure it will lol
edgy widget
https://github.com/bp2008/BetterClearTypeTuner
that works with wow screenshots? 🤔
interesting
red berry
im not sure it does but im just assuming
edgy widget
or I guess it wouldn't work on the screenshots, but would work on wow specifically
red berry
i'd imagine it would impact text rendering on any application
edgy widget
Yeah, that's what I mean
red berry
ooo fair
edgy widget
you'd think the application would override whatever windows tries to do
red berry
its good it doesnt all the time. gives you more options to make what you want to work. work.
thick elbow
how is fixing the leggo upgrade issue that hard lol
south kayak
I don’t know if this means it’s hard
young swan
barren cargo
is arms really that much better then fury?
dense sparrow
is the stat priority in season 4 the same as season 3 for fury?
quaint stag
Back to s2 stats where it’s more mastery haste then crit = vers I assume
We didn’t need much haste last season
upbeat plume
is arms really that much better then fury?
Logs don't lie sadly
Can be skewed a little but not enough to make up for the gap were seeing lol
feral ivy
anyoen know a good link for rotation?
olive wraith
Wowhead
feral ivy
the only thing throwing me off with cds is recklessness and avatar are not cd that go together anymore most time since we are using unbridled ferocity
tall cypress
Can be skewed a little but not enough to make up for the gap were seeing lol
All the Warriors in top 300 on raider.io are playing arms. How big is the gap?
feral ivy
do i just zug zug and just push reckless when ever its up?
normal mirage
what yall taking this week with your Bronze Bullions?
torpid sand
what yall taking this week with your Bronze Bullions?
legendary
unreal crane
if you upgrade any random weapon (lets say the champion i have rn) to max..will the fyralath upgrade be free for those item level tracks?
clever belfry
@young swan @oblique trail hewwo :3
red berry
legendary. when it is fixed.,
oblique trail
Hai :3
red berry
pleases. i am waiting by the NPC.
quick hull
would be a good way to spend some crests and stones leveling up a 2h weapon
normal mirage
Is there a bug w/ it rn?
pliant ridge
<@137363315817971712> <@102464908976730112> hewwo :3
the upgrade will only cost flightstones
red berry
yes
quick hull
so the lggo is cheaper
feral ivy
i dont think the leggo issue will be fixed today im thinking tomorrow
young swan
<@137363315817971712> <@102464908976730112> hewwo :3
daddy's busy kitten
feral ivy
what is that game looks familiar
normal mirage
Say I don't have the Lego just yet cause I came back last week from a break.... Ashkandur kinda looking hot after I simmed everything
red berry
adventuire quest
clever belfry
the upgrade will only cost flightstones
why am i pinged with this
covert blaze
for comparison
I kept looking for differences because i didn't read the context. I am collecting Ls today
clever belfry
daddy's busy kitten
is this AQ?
pliant ridge
why am i pinged with this
thats just how it be
feral ivy
this is the best game when i was a kid
young swan
is this AQ?
AQW 😎
clever belfry
thats just how it be
silence, imbecile
feral ivy
use to play it when i was in computer class
red berry
the best game when i was a kid was toontown.
olive wraith
the only thing throwing me off with cds is recklessness and avatar are not cd t...
Rek goes with ravager
It doesn’t always sync with avatar
covert blaze
why am i pinged with this
with what
pliant ridge
silence, imbecile
chat go zoom, mouse make click, oopsie woopsie
young swan
im doing the latest endgame farm (i want to blow my head off)
clever belfry
chat go zoom, mouse make click, oopsie woopsie
youre a chat noober!!! cant even press correct /r!!
covert blaze
clever belfry
im doing the latest endgame farm (i want to blow my head off)
Sounds hot
clever belfry
king
hallow sphinx
clever belfry
warm crow
With fury at moment, with the season 4 tier, is it better going right side talent tree build over left side that made more use of season3 tier?
feral ivy
Rek goes with ravager
yea thats what ive been doing but ive been doing less dmg ever switching form s3 tier to s4
prob might be me just getting use to the switch but idk
olive wraith
St or m+
feral ivy
m+
hollow cradle
Hi. With the bullions, do I first go Aug trink or Eranog ring? New warrior.
olive wraith
Hi. With the bullions, do I first go Aug trink or Eranog ring? New warrior.
Are you sticking with fury
hollow cradle
Are you sticking with fury
That's the plan, don't really enjoy Arms.
olive wraith
Ashcandi might be worth it. Weapons are pretty important for us
Start farming fyrak now btw
Get that leggo asap
normal mirage
Yeah I started on it.
ashen socket
So dumb that you need to grind that out still
its a fated season
just give it to everyone
who gives a shit
clever belfry
If youre sure you wanna "main" fury they're reasonable for sure
ebon junco
dent
final birch
proper peak
hmmm, tempted to take the weapon
subtle nova
heard there was a bug with upgrading legendary is this true?
light tapir
heard there was a bug with upgrading legendary is this true?
Yes
subtle nova
does the item just get deleted on use and tou have to open a ticket to get it back?
oblique trail
No you can upgrade it just fine to Awakened, but not further than that with Crests and Flightstones
light tapir
Yea ^
subtle nova
okay thx 🐸
ashen socket
Get declined for 30 minutes
Finally get taken into key
1 minute into key wipe
tank leaves
repeat
ashen socket
True
frail cave
Fire ring in vault 😄
clever belfry
who
frail cave
One less item I have use currency on
jade peak
Ashcandi might be worth it. Weapons are pretty important for us
how big of a % gain in overall dps is the legendary in the end of a mythic plus? I know that palas benefit a lot from it. do warriors proc it well also?
jade peak
how big of a % gain in overall dps is the legendary in the end of a mythic plus?...
the legendary, I mean
olive wraith
Idr how big a damage increase it was but warriors can easily apply the marks via ww
jade peak
sweet. does it usually end at 3rd or 4th biggest damage dealer in the details metter?
olive wraith
Keep in mind it’s not just the overall damage that we benefit from
It’s higher ilvl so we get more stats from it
jade peak
y
modest condor
the effect is something like 6-7% in a good run, will be higher ofcourse when you have a 535 lego with ilvl 510 gear, but once you get to full 528
jade peak
the effect is something like 6-7% in a good run, will be higher ofcourse when yo...
huge. hope I get it fast
anyone made it recently? it adds up to what cost? 250k - 300k gold?
chilly plume
Hey question, I've got two 506 Weapons from prot and my current fury weapon situation is... abysmal (483 and 470) is it worth taking SMF at this point until I get decent 2h?
woven spear
Question... in the Guides chan are the talent builds there updated for Season 4 Teir? It looks like it is... just wanted to check.
Looks like the M+ build in there is an Annihilator build.
woven spear
Hey question, I've got two 506 Weapons from prot and my current fury weapon situ...
I would say sim. However at just ilvl consideration, probably. Should be able to get some better weps quickly however.
red berry
No you can upgrade it just fine to Awakened, but not further than that with Cres...
oh word so i can spend the item on it rn
oblique raft
hi
red berry
hi
pallid wing
do we break tier at 2 or 4 pc
sage ridge
Do we cast Reck before Avatar now that the bug is fixed?
oblique trail
You should not be doing a lot less in M+ with the new set
If you are, that's very likely just a case of not having played the build enough
frank dawn
Yeah should def be similar in M+, especially since it’s now Fort week
But raid bosses…
cursive solar
Finally got all new set pieces for S4
red berry
god ive lost so much mastery
wanton mirage
it gives you mythic track from unawakend raids. i killed a mythic gnarloot last week
or is it always been like this ?random from all raids items pool?
gilded pawn
maybe its just random from all raids
sullen dove
ya i think its all
ton of ppl getting items from raids they havent even done last week
maiden seal
scale still bugged?
maiden seal
multi dollar company
unreal crane
ya you can catalyst it into a mythic tier piece
random raptor
Using the s4 rotation feels so satisfying.. the damage on the other hand is hot garbage lol
wanton mirage
tHeY gOnNa BuFf iT sOoN
mossy fox
got enough hopium to last a month
feral sable
why did se2 talents win the vote if the damage was hot garbage?
mossy fox
after that ill doom
upbeat plume
why did se2 talents win the vote if the damage was hot garbage?
cause people god mad that you might miss 1 gcd every minute with s3
manic gulch
why did se2 talents win the vote if the damage was hot garbage?
because the gameplay is the best and copium the playerbase hoped for good buffs
since blizz said there would be compensation buffs for older tiers
sullen dove
tru
upbeat plume
and the fools trusted blizzard lol
icy vine
cuz blizz promised we were voting for playstyle and numbers would be adjusted accordingly to match
another broken promise..
mossy fox
well they tried to buff it
mossy fox
not realising the buff is actually very small
icy vine
another fury buff any day now 
upbeat plume
and if this fated is like last fated, there wont be any tuning going forward
barring bugs
upbeat plume
they have a half dead intern and a hamster making sure the solid green light dosent change to blinking red and everyone else is on TWW lol
manic gulch
about that
"there is an issue with upgrading the legendary and its gonna take a while to fix it"
upbeat plume
exactly that lol
icy vine
any minute now..
manic gulch
buffing classes around legendary was the dumbest thing they could do
random raptor
The season 2 rotation is insanely more fun and embodies more of what a fury warrior is, the vote isnt the issue
its blizzards incompetence to tune it correctly
upbeat plume
I mean, if you werent bad the gameplay for s3 wasnt that different, missed gcds were incrediably rare
if you did the rotation correctly
random raptor
s3 was still good, just wasn't as fun?
olive wraith
I enjoyed it
paper ivy
😦
upbeat plume
I enjoyed it
people scream about it like it was the end of the world cause it required 2 braincells instead of one lol
void ridge
I would much rather press raging blow than stupid slam
manic gulch
you mean half braincells
calm mantle
Coping every season I won’t just barely be above a tank in dps
random raptor
I just want to spend my crests and flightstones but blizzard didnt even check if you can upgrade legendary before it went live, 512 item level is too low LET ME COOK
manic gulch
i heard na also got their crest limit increased earlier
sullen dove
"i didnt like something you like therefore i am in the right"
but nah s3 8x better for every raid this expansion
than s2
s2 more fun m+ tho
thats a warranted claim
void ridge
people still raid?
manic gulch
oblique trail
people still do m+ after getting weeklies?
open wigeon
S3. Survivability was so good
sullen dove
real??!?
asking if ppl raid is like asking if ppl m+
which encompasses asking if ppl still play wow
void ridge
hook, line, and sinker, well done
pallid wing
still can't believe the majority voted for s2, it's so boring imo i might as well play arms
void ridge
I'd much rather we go back to s2 than another garbage tier they dream up like s1
calm mantle
I’ve only played season 2 and 3 and season 2 felt smoother to play imo tho now I’m used to s3 it’s not as bad as my first impression
covert blaze
@dapper goblet where are the promised buffs (I am inside your house atm)
dapper goblet
soon
sullen dove
<@139241006355841026> where are the promised buffs (I am inside your house atm)
(choose your next words carefully)
left perch
what exactly does wonka stand for
sullen dove
william
left perch
ohhhh
sonic magnet
alright lads 4p or hero trash asskandi from vault. i want opinions lad the wild kind
left perch
is it myth track 4p
sullen dove
maybe wait for a clear? cuz tier technically free but asscandy also technically free if u just run raid
cuz like 1/10 strength users want
those that dont have leggo
left perch
if no, go ass kand prolly
void ridge
alright lads 4p or hero trash asskandi from vault. i want opinions lad the wild ...
are you planning to buy asscandy with bullions? if so just be patient and wait for it then
sonic magnet
i guess pally doesnt matter
sullen dove
do they all have leggo
sonic magnet
but the other warrs
sullen dove
o well if they all fury then yea sword more contested
but if any swapping to masterrace arms
lil better
covert blaze
reminder you are gonna buy ashkandur anyway
void ridge
^^ this for any weapon that turns up in vault, just be patient and get your bis 2nd weapon in a few weeks time and prior other loot from vault
surreal blaze
Not finding it in he guides, anyone know with the current Tier set, when it is best to use the Leggo?
Literally wait till CDs are done or open with it then CD
sullen dove
prolly a lot less specific cuz you pretty much "always" want to be spamming gcds with s2 set
esp with reck up
but i mean i guess just generally after avatar is over after cds
or if u wanna just rip it on pull thats fine too
like charge onslaught leggo to guarantee the enrage
surreal blaze
also depends if we wanna reck to double rage for charge or not
void ridge
use it to return to fight in m+ this week after leaping out of entangling
surreal blaze
Or if it doesn't really matter THAT much cuz Ravager builds so much
void ridge
Blood Mallet posted a new batch of sims yesterday too, so trinket prior has changed a little from week 1
oblique trail
You use it when you no longer have Avatar
modest condor
you can also just charge in, onslaught, use lego and then use cooldowns
random raptor
I feel like I do more damage when I dont use legendary at all
outer umbra
I feel like I do more damage when I dont use legendary at all
eh
random raptor
Maybe once its upgraded?
red berry
leggo slaps now
random raptor
How often and when are you using it in m+
random raptor
Would you open with it on say a double pack
Charge -> av/reck -> Fyralath into rotation?
red berry
i would open it on any pack
personally
its split either way. and its capped at 8, isn't it?
random raptor
I'll give it a go, I took puzzle box from vault (nothing better anyway) without knowing it had a channel
so my opener is going to be puzzle first how annoying
red berry
i hate to use axe during windows like that but at least its fast
open wigeon
still can't believe the majority voted for s2, it's so boring imo i might as wel...
You should, arms is just better overall
young swan
lets gooo more s2 vs s3 discourse
modest condor
love to see it
soft orbit
all i wanna know is how soon(tm) leggo upgrade will be fixed?
modest condor
on or before 31-12-2024
dapper goblet
clown voters
🪞
calm mantle
Some of us waited 15 weeks to get it now just another 15 weeks to upgrade
half cargo
hardy nest
mythic weapon 2h vs waiting a few weeks for ashkan?
signal locust
Should I take hero signet or mythic track shoulders from vault? Long term
modest condor
do you push high end keys or is your guild raiding mythic this season?
void ridge
myth track shoulders, you will buy signet eventually
signal locust
Both
void ridge
don't get fomo over first weeks vault
modest condor
yeah just take the shoulders
covert void
myth tier is always a good start tbf.
oblique trail
so my opener is going to be puzzle first how annoying
It's hasted, and you get used to it fast
covert void
might not be exciting but its good
hard relic
bold bluff
still can't believe the majority voted for s2, it's so boring imo i might as wel...
the majority voted for S3 by a lot, 49% to 40%, that is a huge margin in a democratic vote. They gave us S2 because of the EU vote, which had more replies even though there are less EU players, total BS imo
forest owl
Where are all the vault screenshots? Come on guys
red berry
don't worry, EU will hit us with them soon
modest condor
not for another 3.5 hours at least
red berry
aafter we finish beta testing the axe for them
modest condor
xd
red berry
i have a family
forest owl
Why are people so worked up about us using s2 set again? Its a game calm down.
modest condor
i mean people are allowed to be upset about the set they want not winning, i wouldnt be happy if s3 won either
sage smelt
modest condor
but yeah some people need to chill out with the wild comments
red berry
i think i'd had been happier with s2 winning if it got proper tuning
rose fog
I feel most people are upset with the way blizzard handled the whole thing.
You know the whole “can vote on multiple characters” thing
red berry
it had problems
broken river
is it only until we have our 4p that we should switch from Annihilator back to Onslaught?
modest condor
yes
random raptor
Is there a way to check if my damage overall in BH +10 is good?? I did 350k dps
I want to see if its a me problem or if I'm doing something wrong in my rotation
young needle
what are you guys getting with bullions?
random raptor
Legendary upgrade
olive wraith
Seconded
half cargo
Might wanna wait on that one
olive wraith
You think it’s gonna take 2 more weeks to get it fixed?
olive wraith
It’s gonna be this week I’m pretty sure
frank dawn
They'll prob fix it at about the same speed they tuned the S4 bonuses to be just as strong as the others
olive wraith
Nah this affects a lot of people
modest condor
yeah this is a massive fuckup
floral frigate
they should of just phoned it in and made the item just upgrade to max from the scale
torpid sand
How the heck is cataclysmic here
dense elbow
Apparently it unlocks based on all your mythic clears, my guess - fyrakk reclear for mount
Or they botched it up, and S3 did roll over
torpid sand
The legendary fuckup affects paladins which represents 50% of the player base so they will fix ASAP for sure 
void ridge
top kek right there
dense elbow
True, they affected the golden child
It be fixed soon 
torpid sand
nocturne carbon
The legendary fuckup affects paladins which represents 50% of the player base so...
dont forget all the augvokers in the top keys now
hazy tree
They'll prob fix it at about the same speed they tuned the S4 bonuses to be just...
Id rather keep rocking s3 than use s4 right now
jovial summit
is the current set under tuned?
frank dawn
the sad thing is that can actually be the correct numerical answer for a lot of people
void ridge
are you guys talking ST or 5 target sims?
dense elbow
Balanced, as all blizz things should be
keen kindle
and then some classes get to whine about needing two different sets for evrey activity
(I'm spitballin man lol)
muted star
all 3 sets at the same time!
void ridge
they should've just given us s1 tier again so everyone would be in agreement that its dog water
muted star
all the effects, most cooked builds win
keen kindle
I mean I still gotta wonder if S4s are even worth balancing
dense elbow
S1 if balanced would be 😎
keen kindle
all 3 sets at the same time!
that is cursed
dense elbow
And no, from blizz side balance in S4 doesn't matter. Mythic raids flop, 10s are crushed. All classes and specs can do it.
Now it is focus on TWW, pandawanda and whatever the 3rd thing was
Fury prob just gotta be kinda mid, low mid instead of high mid. It will be alright, you will get all your TPs
void ridge
S4 is supposed to be a fast fun tier anyway - since there is no new content
grab an alt, get instant bis gear, have a blast, move on
jovial summit
trued just give us a 20% buff
void ridge
I'd rather an actual proper new raid/season tier than Plunderstorm and the mists remix, but that's not what blizzard are doing
half cargo
I'd rather an actual proper new raid/season tier than Plunderstorm and the mists...
This this this
Mini raid to tie in to the new expac
dense elbow
I won't complain, already reached the point where it is weekly8, then raidlog
Chill for the summer
half cargo
Ngl, I’m also the same
Just logging for random keys whenever friends ask
Too exhausted to do anything serious after last tier
void ridge
yea, its nice not having to sweat out all the new content, go chill for a few months and play some other games before TWW
keen kindle
I honestly think blizz just dosen't know what to do with S4 as a concept
Feels kinda like a "well we need something out to keep player numbers before an xpack drops, so here's a remix season"
void ridge
I mean they used to have 4 tiers of raids and sometimes mini raids too
they are just providing the least amount of content they can while keeping subs active
keen kindle
Yes but even with those we still ended up with content draughts
member cata? MoP? WoD?
Literally evrey xpack post legion has tried to do something at the end to keep players somewhat engaged
keen kindle
Legion with unlocking the mage tower and massive damage buffs, BFA with the introduction of a SHITTON of buffs, Shadowlands and DF with Season 4s
void ridge
SL and DF s4s are the laziest iterations of 'new' content ever
keen kindle
because they aren't "new" content
It's content to tie us over so they can develop an expansion
dense elbow
SL was ok, as it was the first time - it had season affixes, it got stale fast, but again... it was a new concept
void ridge
but why do we need a new expansion now? I'd be happy with a s4 that was a proper new season, then w/e filler rubbish they need to tie us over until TWW
keen kindle
Two reasons: A. Money (duh) B....you'd be surprised by the amount of wow players who treat this game like a job
dense elbow
Story is over, friendship won. Also... money 💰
void ridge
peak money squeezing, every company is doing it
dense elbow
It be their purpose, makes sense to me
sullen dove
@dapper goblet 62.2 actually just gonna have the leggo....
keen kindle
I mean loosing a large chunk of revune due to having nothing for several months, or up to a year in some cases....isn't really a great idea
void ridge
providing the least amount of service possible while still charging the same or more
keen kindle
And it's basically what to happens to evrey other MMO outside of content cycles, they kinda just...die
dense elbow
The players who are still playing S4 are the ppl who will only quit if it gets SL levels of korthia farm bad.
No point doing anything, as we already hooked and invested
keen kindle
The players who are still playing S4 are the ppl who will only quit if it gets S...
Exactly this
void ridge
nek minnit, TWW has 2 seasons with 1 added 'fated' season to see if players will still stick around
dense elbow
We might grumble, but we pay up. Then they put effort into the new expansion to get the ppl to come back and some new faces.
Hopefully they get a few more of us to... well exploit
keen kindle
basically welcome to blizzard
dapper goblet
<@139241006355841026> 62.2 actually just gonna have the leggo....
not fair..
dense elbow
Repeat the cycle and speed it up, soon 2 paid expansions a year
dense elbow
We will see where we break
keen kindle
I think if blizz went that fast, they'd see a REAL fast drop off
dense elbow
But wow mules got sturdy backs and used to take abuse
keen kindle
Like....9.1 levels of exodus
keen kindle
yes
dense elbow
Yep
half cargo
9.2 was even worse
keen kindle
Was it?
half cargo
It felt like that to me at least
dense elbow
Was anyone left for 9.2…
half cargo
9.1 gets more attention because of the scandals
keen kindle
9.2 felt worse as a alliance specifcally
half cargo
But 9.2 was fucking dire
keen kindle
because jesus christ even a few months into sepchular was....depressing
Like I cannot stress how important cross faction premade is
sullen dove
zm was a cool zone vro
actually decent world content
that 9.1 did NOT have
but idk raid too hard i think
for a long time
dense elbow
I hated both
sullen dove
and shit like that
dense elbow
With a passion
sullen dove
idk i mean... at least it had a raid and m+ season...
keen kindle
content
sullen dove
wasnt 6.1 wod literally like... only the selfie camera
keen kindle
na
sullen dove
didnt really raid then
keen kindle
It was just highmaul
dense elbow
Raids are always on point, problem is always when they get too eager forcing us to partake using the hamsterwheel
We just wanna be lazy, some times take it for a spin for fun, not be on it 24/7 or fall off and die
upbeat plume
I assume when leggo is fixed theyll throw that in the updates channel
dense elbow
I assume when leggo is fixed theyll throw that in the updates channel
Almost guaranteed, and a wowhead post with 3 duplicates with different titles
red berry
its apparently
a priority issue
i have been sitting here
while watching youtube for hours
sullen dove
run some m+ god damn 😭
glad coyote
can some one link tree for m+
dense elbow
In the pins, wowhead link
slim coral
can blizz fix the lego
errant perch
Doubt it, I vendored mine
sullen dove
real
upbeat plume
a priority issue
again, that half dead intern and the dehydrated hamster are working around the clock to fix the issue
dense elbow
Leave Jeff alone, he is trying ok? Not his fault legendary bugged because of bagspace
half cargo
Is Jeff the hamster?
half cargo
dense elbow
The plot thickens
granite arrow
does tier drop or is it solely from cata & ksm token 🤔 / weekly vault
junior gale
only drops in raid
dense elbow
Bosses in raid drop em too, check loot tables
granite arrow
dang i did an 8/8h and didnt see any drop lmaooo
upbeat plume
and can get one piece from keystone master/pvp achieve too
might not have been your token
dense elbow
That is the ksm one he mentioned, Kar
upbeat plume
ah mb didnt see in the rush of chat lol
olive wraith
Our token is mixed with monk, evoker, hunter
dense elbow
modest condor
Leave Jeff alone, he is trying ok? Not his fault legendary bugged because of bag...
jeff from the overwatch team?
upbeat plume
if with a guild were not super prio unless were playing arms this season anyway
for tier
upbeat plume
jeff from the overwatch team?
nah this is jeff from statefarm
vocal gazelle
any update on the eta for the legendary fix?
dense elbow
When the hamster is done taking his nap, so Jeff can be told how to fix the spaghetti
glad coyote
\yall playing anni build or ravager?
sullen dove
anni until you have new 4set
then u can swap ravager
assuming u had old s3 4set
if u dont have that u just stay ravager
glad coyote
got new 4set
sullen dove
then ravager it is
glad coyote
i spent all my time switching to arms and i just cant
slim coral
lego buff when
glad coyote
never
upbeat plume
I keep getting jebaited by the news channel T.T
junior gale
upbeat plume
I mean its like 30 targets or something, ww does 0 damage
random raptor
My ST S3 sims 6k higher than S4.. but 50k higher in aoe
shouldnt it be significantly more
gilded pawn
I think he’s talking about leveling content
Just press whatever bro
It’s levelling
dense elbow
WW is true uncapped no? So on 30+ targets, it should be worth spamming 
upbeat plume
my point was that you very rarily ever have that many targets lol
sullen dove
WW is true uncapped no? So on 30+ targets, it should be worth spamming <:peepost...
sure but at that point just go arms and spam a real ww and cleave
dense elbow
modest condor
ok first of all no ww isnt true uncapped
and second even if it was, all damage caps at 20 targets anyway
gilded pawn
WW is true uncapped no? So on 30+ targets, it should be worth spamming <:peepost...
It’s still soft 5
modest condor
exceptions are dots
gilded pawn
exceptions are dots
Can’t believe some dots cap too
upbeat plume
yeeep we dont lose much st damage for going aoe but we do 0 ST regardless so its kind of wtv lol
gilded pawn
So cringe
modest condor
Can’t believe some dots cap too
that's cap
but yeah for example OF dot is still square root scaling past 8 targets
dense elbow
OF dot doesnt scale 1:1 it shrinks with applied effects
Uncap and buff of 51%
Make fury great again
modest condor
you could calculate at what target count ww beats something like rb just purely by tooltip damage but then you dont take into account other things like rage gen or slaughtering strikes
gilded pawn
Bring back mbg
modest condor
even back in shadowlands with mbg, technically it was already stronger than cleaving bt or rb on 2 targets but you didnt do that because you had rage gen to take into account and whirlwind didnt generate enough rage to keep enrage uptime
edgy widget
just loot it 4head! 
dense elbow
Gz
ashen socket
just loot it 4head! <a:peepolaugh:890741791928754206>
Now why didn't you just loot the axe that fast?
edgy widget
T_T
dense elbow
100k proc, that is big number - 200k on humanoids, 400k crits... wait, is that higher than our tierset crits?
sullen dove
100k proc, that is big number - 200k on humanoids, 400k crits... wait, is that h...
mfw weapon more powerful than 4set
dense elbow
edgy widget
100k proc, that is big number - 200k on humanoids, 400k crits... wait, is that h...
Idk I'm still a S3 gamer
dense elbow
Mah man
upbeat plume
god how I wish we still had season 3 if nothing else it isnt hot garbage on the meters lol only slightly warm garbage XD
forest ginkgo
I just hope ashkandur drops on either normal or preferrably heroic during raid
dense elbow
god how I wish we still had season 3 if nothing else it isnt hot garbage on the ...
Buffs are coming
forest ginkgo
Cuz only fury will really want it as an off-hand since everybody else plays fyr'alath
Unless they dont have fyr'alath
upbeat plume
Buffs are coming <:copium:839076283467431956>
if only, maybe if we get the hamster a new bag of seeds and some water
forest ginkgo
But thankfully in my raid team, EVERYBODY HAS FYR'ALATH so im getting that asscandy one way or another
dense elbow
cobalt peak
is it good to have last season 4 set or split 2 & 2?
just got 2 pieces and sim is being dumb
dense elbow
(4) is prob better,2+2 might be nice to learn the new rotation
(4) so far keep up with new (4) on ST, so yeah 👍 ilvl wins out in the end, but dont force new (2) in there
quiet geyser
just loot it 4head! <a:peepolaugh:890741791928754206>
archy using ashkandur, which means he playing fury. he knows fury getting buffed
dense elbow
Bigbrain
untold moth
im trying to make the switchover to 4p S4 and i can't get it to SIM anything other than a slight DPS loss, mix of hero/champ tier... this expected?
alpine steppe
From what Ive read seems to be expected, but that's just random forum threads Ive seen
dense elbow
On ST, yes, but more AoE dam
untold moth
ya, im only simmin ST at the moment, makes sense
upbeat plume
were one of the worst ST specs in teh game with s2 set so makes sense
upbeat plume
honestly if they tuned that tier set to not be hot garbage it would have been more fun then s2
young swan
no the set definitely sucks
ashen socket
The set is dogshit
gilded pawn
The st gain for the set was on the upper end for s2 sets
young swan
considering we were top of the class for ST last season
gilded pawn
But definitely not in the expac in general
ashen socket
"Oh I want s2 tierset idc if the damage is bad"
Meanwhile everyone that wanted s2 tierset is dooming now
modest condor
from what i've seen it's almost exclusively s3 voters dooming
dense elbow
Come on, again, nobody voted for the tierset. Everyone wanted am/rav/reck.
Lets be honest here.
S2 was just a surefire enabler for the engine due to the ramp mod