#fury

1 messages · Page 478 of 1

slender eagle
#

Sincere question, does anyone think that the season 2 tier is better than season 3?

chrome plover
#

but it is weaker, that's just a fact

empty mirage
#

s4 set is 10x more fun but does a lil less dmg

south kayak
#

a lil clueless

chrome plover
#

blizzard told people to vote for what they enjoyed and the power would be tuned accordingly (they lied) but that's why people voted season 2

slender eagle
#

A little less damage alone?

#

I thought the loss would be greater xD

chrome plover
#

it's carried by higher item level

south kayak
#

they did tune it

#

but not enough

#

at all

slender eagle
#

I see the one from S3 with more synergy than the one from 2

chrome plover
#

not sure what you mean

#

synergy with what

slender eagle
#

hence my doubt

#

with the build that is used

#

one thing enhances the other etc...

chrome plover
#

the s4 set synergises very well with anger management and onslaught for very high reck uptime which means less rampages required per bloodthirst guaranteed crit

#

and also the ability to press rampage a lot more

#

most things in the season 4 build play into having reck up as much as possible

#

I personally think it feels really good to play and really intuitive, and feels much more 'fury' than the other builds this expansion. The numbers are just a bit low...

gray nexus
#

I don't think ravager build is enjoyable. I preferred s3 just because it had some very good single target focus when it was needed

Fury st went from pretty decent to cheeks

chrome plover
#

yeah but again that's a numbers and tuning issue, do you think you'd still prefer s3 if s4 did more single target damage?

gray nexus
#

Probably. Playing around odyns was more fun. Personal opinion

slender eagle
#

I understand

chrome plover
silent burrow
#

I definitely prefer the playstyle of s2/4

mossy fox
#

i'm also in the s2/s4 camp, much more enjoyable playstyle imo

silent burrow
#

Especially in keys

mossy fox
#

shame the numbers arent great atm but we can cope for buffs

slender eagle
#

well I hope the stat scaling feels good

silent burrow
#

eek

chrome plover
#

'stat scaling' aint saving anyone

clever belfry
silent burrow
#

FingerGuns s word

warm crag
clever belfry
#

real

chrome plover
#

we need help from the guys in the sky

orchid grove
#

~how much of a dps loss is s4 compared to s3
Assuming equal ilvl

clever belfry
#

thoughts

warm crag
clever belfry
#

well i was banned

warm crag
#

20000 voters in 2 minutes

clever belfry
#

i couldnt vote m8

warm crag
#

noob lol

clever belfry
#

real

warm crag
#

someone used a chinese eating wa yday

clever belfry
#

report them!!!

#

they deserve to perish

gray nexus
#

Tier set felt far more impactful to playstyle in s3 than s2/4
"This button hits harder every now and then" compared to changing the way you dance around OF

That's how I see it at least. Not that I hated s2, just prefer s3

#

But on the bright side it pushed me to finally learn arms

silent burrow
#

Eating wa's, why is this a thing

clever belfry
#

theyre king

#

gambling healthy

warm crag
#

s3 locked you into a dogshit manifestation of something that was cool years ago

clever belfry
#

we hate DF OF

icy vine
#

Chat, what’s the chance of fury buffs this week?

warm crag
#

it doesnt even do fire or shadow damage

clever belfry
#

non 0

warm crag
#

why is it pure physical

clever belfry
#

but it does

#

WHOOOSH

gray nexus
#

Maybe, I'm new to warrior so maybe I don't view it the same way as lifelong warrior gamers

empty mirage
#

no chance we get buffed this week

#

if we get buffed ill throw it back on cam

warm crag
#

i mean yes you technically are correct in saying that the s3 tier was more impactful on playstyle because it physically didnt work unless you played the talents that it says

proud vessel
#

What time do we usually see the first NA weekly chests pop up in here?

icy vine
#

No buffs deadge

warm crag
#

fury nerfs coming up

#

im cooking them as we speak

empty mirage
#

bro if they nerf us AGAIN

clever belfry
empty mirage
#

im gonna give blizzard a piece of my god damn mind

warm crag
#

you havent been nerfed in ages

gray nexus
#

Don't speak them into existence deadge

warm crag
#

wait what even was the last nerf dps warriors got as a whole

mossy fox
#

we indirectly got nerfed a lot in DF when everyone else got buffed

#

that should count

warm crag
#

ye no i mean actual aura nerfs

quiet geyser
#

Why nerf what always sucks?

warm crag
#

same way assa got nerfed last tier i mean

south kayak
#

assa got murdered

warm crag
#

you will play dogshit vanish cdr and you will like it

gray nexus
#

I mean we are getting 5% bigger in WW so.....

We have a clear and cut advantage over every other class coming up fr fr

summer quail
mossy fox
#

yes

empty mirage
#

im tryna hit these 3mil dps peaks like these bm hunters

oblique trail
#

Gl

empty mirage
#

its devious what hunters can do

warm crag
#

@oblique trail as yellow do you know how i can obtain 700 flightstones by tomorrow?

oblique trail
#

otherwise go live inside of m+!!

empty mirage
#

no life them mythics lmao

oblique trail
#

I don't know how else to farm flightstones because I am not planting flowers for a living!!

warm crag
#

i will utilize the forbidden third option of doing the blue dragonflight questline

empty mirage
mossy fox
#

how many stones do you get from keys anyway

oblique trail
#

like 76?

#

ish?

#

if someone gets score up

south kayak
#

some bullshit

mossy fox
#

im permanently capped and dont pay attention to it

#

76 is p good

gray nexus
#

I got a 528 wep from raid so I'm ready to immediately upgrade my legendary. Rip all my flightstones

oblique trail
#

I've been capped for a few days now because I have nothing to upgrade

warm crag
#

check again

#

her has claimed 700 flightstones

oblique trail
#

:her:

warm crag
#

post the emote

#

abuse your yellow

oblique trail
#

no nitro moment

mossy fox
#

:her:

warm crag
#

fuck

mossy fox
#

i dont have it unlocko

warm crag
#

are you not in tmys

chrome plover
#

:her:

mossy fox
#

nay

oblique trail
#

tiny her

warm crag
#

fps (flightstones per hour) is crazy for the blue dragonflight questline

south kayak
#

the gold diff between sophic devotion rank 2 and 3 is 4k

#

why would i buy rank 3

warm crag
#

why would you settle for less dam

south kayak
#

I don't care

#

0.000001% less damage

empty mirage
#

u paying?

#

mr rich over here

south kayak
#

what

empty mirage
#

spongie lmao

#

mr making bread

#

dishing out bands on bands for a tier 3 weap enchant

oblique trail
#

Spongie extorted me for all of my belongings at the start of the season, so now this is all I have to my name

chrome plover
#

enough for a weapon enchant at least

empty mirage
#

im fighting tooth and nail to repair my gear

chrome plover
#

I found 365k across my alts that I didnt know I had at the start of this season

mossy fox
south kayak
#

@warm crag teach me your extortion skills

oblique trail
#

GIVE ME MY GOLD BACK

warm crag
#

@compact siren also owes me 200k

mossy fox
#

also got 5mil for m+ boosts in the last couple of weeks of s3 gfury

warm crag
#

just boost mythic fyrakk or

empty mirage
#

stay humble

warm crag
#

actually free money

oblique trail
#

Free?

#

Mentally no

empty mirage
#

you need friends to sell boosts

mossy fox
#

yeee we did

#

though it took us a while to get buyers idk

warm crag
oblique trail
#

lego -> lego opener

warm crag
#

holy moly i get to do mediocre damage for twice as long

#

does the first legendary press consume all the marks of the second one

south kayak
#

should i reroll my undead priest to void elf?

warm crag
#

can you afford it?

south kayak
#

yes

warm crag
#

bad response sorry

#

i concede

south kayak
mossy fox
#

need a pedro lego wa

#

pedro into death is probably good content

warm crag
south kayak
#

No it doesn't, I just thought void elves look cooler

warm crag
#

i dont think you need advice about taste from skyhold

south kayak
#

That is true

warm crag
#

if you want cool velf spriest go for it

south kayak
#

I wonder how long it takes to transfer

#

have a raid tonight

#

I mean, change

oblique trail
#

do not faction swap if it's mythic and you've already cleared some bosses this week

south kayak
#

I have not

#

mythic bosses at least

#

is heroic an issue?

oblique trail
#

HC doesn't work on a lockout basis

south kayak
#

that's true

warm crag
#

rn is the best time to do it

south kayak
#

I assume it's lockout issue

warm crag
#

i mean yeah but thats why you transfer before weekly reset

oblique trail
# warm crag why not

Because you will literally not be able to enter the same mythic lockout if you fac swap

#

Unless it's been changed since I already made this mistake at the end of Shadowlands

warm crag
#

as long as you do the transfer before reset after your last raid of the week its fine

oblique trail
#

Yes but the last raid of the week would be tonight

warm crag
#

why do you raid tuesdays? perish

chrome plover
#

it bricks your lockout for the week

oblique trail
#

I don't

south kayak
#

I do not

oblique trail
#

But Box said he has raid tonight

south kayak
#

We didn't kill hc raszageth yday

#

so we're doing it tonight

chrome plover
#

what are you race changing to

south kayak
#

void elf

#

undead looks weird with robes and cloth items

#

especially the newer ones

chrome plover
#

undead is my least favourite race probably

south kayak
#

It's one of my favorites lmao

warm crag
#

cannibalize someone on mythic fyrakk prog

south kayak
#

Undead is cool but thy really should change their damage racial

#

it's so bad

chrome plover
#

raid leader paid for my gf to race change to undead for anduin 💀

south kayak
chrome plover
#

she hated it

south kayak
#

blizzard forgot to buf touch of the grave

chrome plover
#

just make races purely cosmetic fr

#

they may as well be already

south kayak
#

if everyone else has 1% crit or haste or whatever

#

1% damage

#

then why does undead have this dogshit

chrome plover
#

vulpera doesnt

hardy cargo
#

put all racials as a choice and make it barber shop FingerGuns

#

plz I beg

chrome plover
#

they have a bag of tricks on gcd that does less damage than a gcd usually

south kayak
#

Race change in a second

#

We've come far

upbeat sentinel
chrome plover
#

it is?

oblique trail
#

NA moment

south kayak
#

It is

chrome plover
#

what the fuck is a kilometer 🦅

warm crag
#

caps

chrome plover
#

woah

south kayak
#

Why would you assume I'm NA

upbeat sentinel
#

Oh reset hasn’t happened yet has it

#

Oopsie

south kayak
#

shoo

chrome plover
#

bed time

upbeat sentinel
#

Box

chrome plover
#

or good morning

south kayak
#

Sanyaza for blue name 2029

upbeat sentinel
#

How u doing

south kayak
#

I'm done well thank you

#

you?

upbeat sentinel
#

I’m pretty good bro

south kayak
#

That's cool

#

Dracthyr look so goofy

#

I wanna play deva

#

but i can't get over how they look

compact siren
#

Please leave me alone

south kayak
#

What about the rest

compact siren
#

I gave him head pats

south kayak
#

head pats worth that low?

compact siren
#

Over 4000 head pats

#

My arm has gone numb

iron portal
#

@oblique trail good pfp

modest condor
#

thanks

vocal gazelle
#

any word on tuning just yet for fury?

empty mirage
#

wym fury is op

#

we need a nerf asap

vocal gazelle
#

the sarcasm hurts

empty mirage
#

i pulled 90k overall yesterday

#

someone needs to stop me

vocal gazelle
#

lmao

#

cleary blizzard already is

empty mirage
#

but as far as i know, no tuning yet

vocal gazelle
#

fingers crossed for that sweet 90k dps

empty mirage
#

i pump

vocal gazelle
#

amen 😄

empty mirage
#

all we can do is yap abt it for now lmao

warm crag
#

@modest condor good pfp

empty mirage
#

is mine good too

mossy fox
#

90k is literally s1 ilvl numbers

empty mirage
#

thats not something that actually happened lmao

#

youd have to try to get something that low

chrome plover
#

is nyalotha solo or duoable

#

for transmog

south kayak
empty mirage
#

pretty sure its soloable

#

dont u need a certain cape or some shit tho for one of the bosses or am i buggin out

chrome plover
#

i think u do for last 2 but idk if that's required on lfr/normal or only mythic?

#

i didnt do the raid

empty mirage
#

its been so long i dont even remember

#

other than that im pretty sure its soloable/duoable

rigid stirrup
#

There are usually groups that go up for it a few times a day but AFAIK I don't know anyone that's soloed it

empty mirage
#

are there like set mechanics that require x amount of people? unless its like a 1 shot mechanic you should just be able to eat it

#

well not 1 shot but a high ass damage mechanic

warm crag
#

you need cape for nzoth or you get rolled

chrome plover
modest condor
#

it is definitely required on lfr

#

lfr nzoth wasnt infamously the most difficult boss of the raid for no reason

#

because half the raid would instantly get mced

south kayak
#

I remember

#

good days

#

Didn't they make it a requirement to have the cloak to enter LFR

#

or not

modest condor
#

i think so

#

eventually

south kayak
#

is this good maybe

empty mirage
#

what ilvl shit can you buy with the buillons

mental rune
#

Starts at 493, upgrades to 528/535

empty mirage
#

oh yeah we buying a weapon boyos

#

this 476 aint cutting it

chrome plover
#

just get legendary

empty mirage
#

assuming i can find a raid, havent been able to get a kill on him yet

empty mirage
#

whats the normal/heroic drop rate for it?

#

oh wait doesnt ur drop rate go up everytime u fumble

chrome plover
#

yes

sullen dove
#

think normal barely worth looking at but heroic idk, increases semi steadily every week on heroic

empty mirage
#

thats more doable then

sullen dove
#

to where its guaranteed on 15th kill

#

but 15 is a lot starting from scratch

#

so hopefully u got some kills under belt already

chrome plover
empty mirage
#

i have 1 kill on him and idek what difficulty its on

chrome plover
#

there was a table on wowhead

#

that i assume is legit

empty mirage
#

i came back at the very end of s3

chrome plover
#

obviously ignore the "old"

empty mirage
#

yeh ill try to get a heroic kill on him every week from here on out

iron portal
sullen dove
#

🧏‍♂️ 🤫

modest condor
#

no u

sullen dove
#

bye bye

#

anyway crazy how wearing old set only 3% dps loss for fury

empty mirage
#

dastardly

hasty path
sullen dove
onyx sparrow
#

Yeah... fury kind of feeling like it needs some wd40 to get things turning lol

rigid stirrup
#

Hoping for some heavy tuning. Dam profile is pretty flat compared to s3

warm crag
#

thats kinda the point no

rigid stirrup
#

When is a sub par flat dam profile ever fun

sullen dove
#

insane vault inc gladge

warm crag
#

outlaw's p fun

sullen dove
#

outlaw is NOT subpar critcake

warm crag
#

outlaw is flat

#

the rest is a tuning diff

sullen dove
#

flat is justice

warm crag
#

holy

rigid stirrup
#

Okay flat is fun if the flat dam is high

#

But when you're flat and have twice/three times the cpm as arms but don't go anywhere near the damage, we have the current state of fury. Maybe things change with Lego and trinkets but it feels giga bad rn

sullen dove
warm crag
#

i mean yeah you're being tuning diffed

#

get rolled

#

this is exactly what i rigged the vote for

sullen dove
#

tru

warm crag
#

perish fury perish

sullen dove
#

the s2 voters that arent lying are the ones that purposefully wanted to sabotage fury

#

to raise arm stonks

#

leg enjoyers

rigid stirrup
#

Honestly respect

warm crag
#

hosen check

sullen dove
#

hosenless

empty mirage
#

the main thing stopping me from playing arms is the fact that id have to regear for arms

#

ill be damned

warm crag
#

no u dont

rigid stirrup
#

False

sullen dove
#

eh i mean, a little maybe

empty mirage
#

isnt arms super gear dependant?

sullen dove
#

its not that crazy tho

warm crag
#

tf you mean you have to regear you're literally just wearing what is highest ilvl rn

rigid stirrup
#

Maybe a few haste heavy things

warm crag
#

there is no shot you farmed m+ to the point where you can have multiple gearsets at max ilvl

empty mirage
#

haste is only at like 30%

#

crit stike is non existant

warm crag
#

ok and

rigid stirrup
#

(Laughs in 40% arms haste)

sullen dove
#

spec unplayable without certain number of stats ragey

sinful spoke
warm crag
#

i have 29 and its fine

#

i need that halls ring holy

sinful spoke
#

try 46

empty mirage
#

ill run some sims when the servers are up but from what i remember i sim higher as fury rn

warm crag
#

w/ perfectly itemized s3 bis from last tier that might be true but even then im p sure arms simmed higher

sullen dove
#

arms was like 5k higher st last season

rigid stirrup
#

I mean Sims are a bait since most bosses aren't a patchwork where you'll just be sitting there slamming boss. Whiff a ravager and it's gg

sullen dove
#

barely i think

#

but even then never actually had full st bosses

sinful spoke
#

volcoros

#

rashok

#

mag

#

zskarn

#

kazz

#

terros

warm crag
#

how tf are you whiffing ravagers

sinful spoke
frank dawn
#

if you telling me you've never thrown a ravager on the ceiling, I call you a liar

sinful spoke
#

no

warm crag
#

yeah it happens like once a month maybe

sinful spoke
#

cause i have a @player macro

modest condor
#

no but i have thrown one in a tree

sinful spoke
#

im nto an idiot

charred panther
#

I’ve def done it in SMV

#

Not so much in raid

empty mirage
#

i just have a cast @ player macro for ravager so i never miss it lmao

warm crag
#

if you're making gearing and spec choices around missing a ravager consistently enough to make a dent on your performance you need god

rigid stirrup
#

I mean can't control tanks from sudden boss movement

sullen dove
#

sanguine depths in shadowlands... spear of bastion into the ceiling on second boss

sinful spoke
#

just go nightfae

hardy cargo
sullen dove
#

simple as

#

rat ass tanks

hardy cargo
sullen dove
#

kiting last boss of nokhud around the entire arena like its a carnival

#

tf he doing allat for

#

stand the fuck still

#

god damn

hardy cargo
#

just some horseplay

rigid stirrup
#

I think fury will be good for fort week but we'll see

sinful spoke
#

it wont

sullen dove
#

its "good" any week

sinful spoke
#

fury is dead spec

#

ty s2 voters

hardy cargo
#

🧢

sullen dove
#

up to certain targets at least, like fury is going to be piss in comparison to arms in an algethar for instance

#

but its probably fine enough in other dungeons with smaller pulls

#

like rlp/vault/neltharus

#

some of em can have big pulls was just rippin out random examples

rigid stirrup
#

Praying for tuning next week

peak lagoon
#

holy shit m glad were rid of BT spam

sinful spoke
#

people have been praying for tuning since the s2 set won

#

havent gotten any

sullen dove
rigid stirrup
#

We technically did it was just sub par

sinful spoke
#

no

#

it was technically a nerf

#

💀

dense elbow
#

Fury is more than fine for your 10s, and likely all the way up to the top 0.1%.

Ya'll can start argue fury vs arms when that point is reached - but I know ya lads aint close to that

sinful spoke
#

💀 ?

rigid stirrup
#

Weird flex

peak lagoon
#

dont think arms will be above fury at the end

#

in M+

sinful spoke
#

what is blud waffling about tho

quaint stag
#

anyone know if weekly vault raid slot is every raid or just the awakened one for the week

#

?

sullen dove
#

it wasnt a nerf at all rly

peak lagoon
#

they have this anoying problem of havng less HP and no warpaint

sullen dove
quaint stag
#

in slands it was all of them

sullen dove
#

i do distinctly remember clearing mythic KT first week available and getting jaithys out of vault dont remember if any nathria loot was in there

hardy cargo
dense elbow
sullen dove
sinful spoke
#

mythic awakened augury week 1 🙏

sullen dove
#

i think we kinda goober mathed that out

#

but yeah if it just increased critchance and didnt buff dmg bonus it would not be better

chrome plover
#

mythic brand

#

or random mythic piss from other raids

#

i dont want that i want eranog ring

rigid stirrup
#

I'm pretty sure it's based off that weeks fated

chrome plover
#

ok

eternal canopy
#

soo

rigid stirrup
#

And when they're all unlocked it's based off bosses in whatever raid you did

quaint stag
#

i'm pretty sure that was how fated vault worked. you could get any item from all raids in the great vault

eternal canopy
#

am i trolling not running shockwave in keys

rigid stirrup
#

Yeah

#

If you're running high keys

eternal canopy
#

but like

#

i mean

#

vdh

#

ya kno?

chrome plover
#

so if i got CE in season 1 but only killed 2 bosses on mythic this week, is the whole raid in my vault

rigid stirrup
#

I think it's based of bosses you killed that week

chrome plover
#

i really like having shockwave in keys regardless

rigid stirrup
clever path
#

@onyx sparrow @vocal gazelle because we follow streamer like critcake bizentein who say vote season 2, see what happen now ? they jebaited us

#

care to explain @scenic quest @mossy fox

mental rune
#

Pretty sure it's based on which awakened bosses you've killed

eternal canopy
#

big truck vibes

#

red camaro

vocal gazelle
#

I don't think they baited anyone, lol

sullen dove
#

its not that deep

vocal gazelle
#

I just want them to increase the skills to fall in line with other specs

rigid stirrup
#

People voted thinking blizz would do their job with proper equal tuning

#

Which was a big mistake

#

S3 voters knew this

vocal gazelle
#

I'm a positive polly though, and think they'll get in line eventually

#

til then, I play arms and enjoy myself

rigid stirrup
#

I'm in that same boat

vocal gazelle
#

I certainly don't blame streamers, in fact, I think they play a pivotal role in changes to show disparity

#

plus I just like @mossy fox

sullen dove
quaint stag
#

from what i can find it's just vault of incarnates loot this week, next week if you kill all of aberrus then vault loot can be incarnates or abberus the week after

mossy fox
#

i voted s2 because i liked playing the s2 build

#

still do so thats a W

sullen dove
#

well if it IS still vault loot then its good that its first few i killed and presumably not the whole raid

mossy fox
#

numbers are not a W

eternal canopy
#

in all fairness they said they were gonna tune it appropriately

#

idk how they arrived at 2% buff but whatever

vocal gazelle
#

Right, I didn't love the annihitalor build, so I'd agree. Something just didn't feel right about annihilator

frank dawn
sullen dove
#

u didnt have a random button to spam every possible waking second with no cooldown

steep fable
#

All fury needs is a meaty buff to prio damage

sullen dove
#

so if u didnt play right or sometimes get unlucky you can just have dead globals and not hit anything for a second or two

eternal canopy
#

honestly buff rampage damage 10%

olive wraith
sullen dove
#

where as u can spam ww and rb as much as you want for no effect

rigid stirrup
#

Idc about annihilator. Big OF damage burst windows is where it was at

#

And big dopamine

steep fable
sullen dove
#

yea i mean potential loss of filling every gcd aside was good to feel like your cooldowns mattered

#

opener sure was weird tho

vocal gazelle
#

I'm fine with being lower in the season like we always are. We always end up higher at the end

sullen dove
#

real xeos

frank dawn
#

scaling will save us

#

100%

mossy fox
#

scaling with aura buffs

vocal gazelle
#

that and people learning how to properly play the spec again

sullen dove
#

arms moment

mossy fox
#

except we havent been doing that in df

hardy cargo
sullen dove
#

arms when another 6% overall aura buff

#

(4th one of the expansion btw)

modest condor
mossy fox
#

i think s2 fury doesnt really need an aoe buff

#

buffing ST buffs aoe anyway

fickle bone
#

im too zug to understand this pin, so in this case do I buy lego tomorrow or Ash

vocal gazelle
#

we tend to catch up a touch, but you're right, it's not huge

eternal canopy
#

i think buff rampage would do it

eternal canopy
#

it would trickle down to aoe thru ww anyways

fickle bone
hardy cargo
#

I agree just referencing the wonky ass random 5% ww cleave damage buff on the 10.1.5(I think or somewhere around there)

mossy fox
#

wouldnt mind BT hitting harder baseline

#

it was a welcome buff tbh

vocal gazelle
#

amen to that

eternal canopy
#

yeah maybe i just figured cause we're hitting rampage more this szn anyways

#

than bt

hardy cargo
#

I always love a buff, but I can still think they are a bit random lol

olive vortex
#

apologies if its covered somewhere else i have been having a flick through but just wondering if 2p/2p is worth or stick with s3 till full 4p?

frank dawn
hardy cargo
olive vortex
#

❤️ thanks guys

winter shoal
rigid stirrup
#

Nah people are just sheep

vocal gazelle
#

s2 appearance was the solid choice though

rigid stirrup
#

S3 was winning till like the last week or two of voting?

vocal gazelle
#

s3's appearance was horrid

rigid stirrup
#

S2 was the least meh appearance but I think we got the short end of the stick tier set wise the whole xpac

vocal gazelle
#

this week we get some sexy axes though, lets GOOOO

rigid stirrup
#

I just need 30 aspects and my Lego will be fully upgraded 🙂

vocal gazelle
#

60 to upgrade to full?

sullen dove
#

90

vocal gazelle
#

noice

sullen dove
#

if u dont have weapon higher than 515

mossy fox
#

tbf many people had "reach/influence" during voting

vocal gazelle
#

Shame on you for being popular and good at your class crit

mossy fox
#

wasnt only s2 propaganda

dense elbow
#

S2 had some true degens tho, just sayin'

Cant blame the players tho, I blame the voteing system

chrome plover
#

how can anyone but the people who balance it be blamed lmao

vocal gazelle
#

I blame Obama

mossy fox
#

literally said the sets will be balanced accordingly, so i voted s2 for playstyle and thats that

dense elbow
#

^ hear hear!

We could have s1!

sullen dove
#

s1 is real gigachad set

dense elbow
#

Stupid S2 voters >:(

radiant plank
#

I voted for S1 wokege

sullen dove
#

fury would sim at 500k

#

cant have nice things

dense elbow
#

600k!

vocal gazelle
#

gonna just give it time, they'll bring it in line

#

(hopeful thinking)

mossy fox
#

s1 was fundamentally impossible to balance unless they added or changed stuff about it

chrome plover
#

if they balanced it well no one would be complaining

dense elbow
#

If we see some buffs today, then sure - if not, then nah

sullen dove
#

execute does 500% more dmg

#

ez

#

they wouldve already announced buffs

mossy fox
#

yeah thats adding

sullen dove
#

pri sure

chrome plover
#

if it was this reset

sullen dove
#

typically on mondays

chrome plover
#

fury is not saved

sullen dove
#

for the next tuesday

frank dawn
#

yeah I think there is zero chance we get buffs until next reset at this point

#

and even then...odds are low xd

dense elbow
rigid stirrup
#

Honestly they should've just did that initial "buff" way higher for s2 set and scaled it down from there if it was gapping too hard.

mossy fox
#

yeah my hopium tank runs out in a month

dense elbow
#

That is a wellstocked hopium tank, Alpha has fed ya well

eternal canopy
#

i dont think they would even think about touching it till people are max gear.

unreal pollen
#

Why can’t we just spend some currency and update tier 3 if that’s what we want

mossy fox
dense elbow
#

If only I didnt prefer Fury

sullen dove
#

theyd have to do more work

#

unironically think it will be the play to equip old tier for tindral

#

anything else feels bad

unreal pollen
#

But S3 feels so good and S4 feels lame

sullen dove
#

u can play whatever on any other boss prolly but just the perfect root break timings and aoe cooldowns

#

idk

vocal gazelle
vocal gazelle
#

Love me some ruby life pools though

unreal pollen
#

Ya I am primarily M+

covert void
rigid stirrup
hardy cargo
#

yeah how dare s2 voters not predict the future

covert void
#

When there's ample evidence that as warriors we don't tend to get balanced well, a lot of the time, yeah.

sullen dove
#

shouldve just not had an incorrect opinion and they wouldnt have to chattingchattingchatting

sullen dove
hasty path
#

Hello everyone did you see the new Blue Post? The Warrior Fury is deleted! What now will we do ?

sullen dove
#

we were mostly on the top half or even top third of dmg most tiers i think

#

so not much to balance

covert void
#

But, trusting blizzard at their word on balancing is a mistake, clearly. They didn't balance the fury set well.

#

it seems

sullen dove
#

yea

rigid stirrup
#

I voted purely off gameplay and I just liked s3 more. Good dam was just another W for it

covert void
#

I didn't vote for s2, because it was more obvious it wouldn't be balanced properly.

#

Well, I enjoyed s3 more too, but damage was good so double positives for me.

#

instead of risking it on blizzards 'word'

chrome plover
covert void
#

How?

chrome plover
#

it wasnt a risk because the s2 set was tuned for s2

covert void
#

I didnt vote s2, because I didnt think they'd balance it well. They haven't. So, it's right.

chrome plover
#

and it wasnt bad in s2

covert void
#

literally proven

edgy widget
#

Hate to break it but the set was also pretty bad in S2

covert void
#

there you go

modest condor
#

huh, it definitely wasnt

edgy widget
#

Glasses just rose tinted af

#

It was in raid

covert void
#

Expecting blizzard to do loads in s4 too? like, they want as little work as possible

edgy widget
#

It was only ever great in AoE

covert void
#

already working on TWW etc. full focus elsewhere.

summer quail
covert void
#

It was wishful thinking imo.

paper ocean
#

which stat bonus is best in academy? mastery?

edgy widget
#

And it still is great in AoE

modest condor
#

no, fury itself was undertuned in raid, the tierset was fine

sullen dove
covert void
#

Although let's see I guess? maybe they buff it. But, who is expecting it, genuinely.

winter shoal
sullen dove
#

i think its pretty objective s2/playstyle is better in m+ and plenty fine to understand ppl voting it for that reason but u have to be bonkers to think s2 will come anywhere close to s3 in raids almost built around s3 set

eternal canopy
modest condor
#

here's a sheet with the % increases to st and aoe and fury was above average

chrome plover
#

I remember getting given mine quite early in a hof guild

sullen dove
#

not "from no tier to tier"

modest condor
#

no because then fury would have been by far the highest

edgy widget
summer quail
#

ye that is true, but in s2 i mean 12% was pretty good

mossy fox
#

didnt fury do pretty well early on in s2 with the new set, only to slowly fall behind as others got buffed

covert void
#

I'm no crit, or 0.1%'er but S3 felt like we were at our strongest.

edgy widget
#

In S2 it was, but bonuses got power crept

winter shoal
covert void
#

I enjoyed it the most, so guess thats opinion based

edgy widget
winter shoal
#

and still bad in keys

sullen dove
#

except last tier 😎 almost

edgy widget
#

But by the end of each patch, fury was kinda mid

sullen dove
#

then ret got buffed...

rigid stirrup
chrome plover
#

I dont think it was anywhere near as bad as it is right now comparatively

sullen dove
#

and remember everyone in here yapping about how ret is just a better warrior

#

fun times

summer quail
winter shoal
#

The whole point of the poll was to vote for the set you liked most, independent of tuning. You're allowed to prefer s3 over s2, but if your issue with s4 is that the numbers are bad, blame blizzard not the voters

edgy widget
#

Also that 20% buff Furys tier got was like a 1% actual damage buff, it’s so insignificant

remote yew
#

what order should we spend bullion after lego upgrade??

modest condor
#

it lost a lot of power from requiring lower stacks to hit 100% crit

#

(from gear)

summer quail
robust shore
#

We knew this would happen with season 2 fury lmao don’t give me tuning

covert void
sullen dove
edgy widget
#

But anyone who thought S2 was gonna “save fury” is kinda coping, since S3 set was always better - better ST and almost the same in AoE (plus burstier)

south kayak
#

Blizzard doesn't even know how their tier sets work LMAO

olive wraith
#

Being back s3 purpleface

south kayak
#

buffing arms more than fury

#

HHAHAHA

sullen dove
#

there was also a new wowhead post like 2 seconds ago about things to buy

covert void
#

Like, easy to say s2 was fun, and good gameplay, but I bet loads have switched to arms already who voted for it.

modest condor
#

all this "saving fury" and "dps" talk is irrelevant because blizzard said to vote for playstyle and that they would tune it

chrome plover
#

it is fun and good gameplay

sullen dove
rigid stirrup
#

Imagine arms and fury being able to eat together

robust shore
#

EU griefed fury. Arms season for sure

chrome plover
#

and i play fury

#

: )

modest condor
#

so we voted for the playstyle we liked with the assumption there would be tuning

#

that blizzard then ended up not properly tuning isnt our fault

covert void
robust shore
#

You know what they say about assumptions

covert void
#

well, not everyone ofc, but generally.

edgy widget
chrome plover
olive wraith
#

Expecting proper buffs is cope

hasty path
#

Expecting anythng from s4 was cope

covert void
chrome plover
#

i wouldnt vote s3 now if we went back in time

#

personally

south kayak
#

buff rampage from 2p by 60% damage

winter shoal
south kayak
#

still less damage than arms

chrome plover
#

fun set for fun season

#

i will play fury because it's fun

olive wraith
south kayak
#

i'll take it

#

People developing warrior don't know what they're doing

vocal gazelle
edgy widget
#

Seems pretty clear to me Blizz tried do quick S4 tuning through tier instead of actual spec changes (hence the unreasonable buff to Arms), but I think they just really misjudged the impact of fury’s set, cause the 4p buff was literally like a +1% change

south kayak
#

I'm not saying this because im mad

#

it's the truth

sullen dove
#

turn the servers on NOW ragey

#

the ruth

#

minor spelling error

#

get him

edgy widget
#

But I suspect they’re in full TWW mode anyway

south kayak
winter shoal
acoustic barn
covert void
#

Wasn't it a realistic expectation that they'd fuck it up though? that they clearly aren't focusing on S4 much. To have faith in them to actually tune it was a bit silly.

dense elbow
#

If only blizzard had acces to a tool that could sim the DPS something would do

olive wraith
#

Still wonder what they would have done with s3

mossy fox
sullen dove
south kayak
sullen dove
#

only difference is arms base set was just 10x stronger

#

tho fury set wasnt really buffed by 50% either, not that that wouldve made it better dont think

#

like 15% crit per stack and 45% dmg bonus

#

maybe that evens out to not even be different

south kayak
#

buff actual fury baseline damage

sullen dove
#

bt 1 ramp sooner again keks

south kayak
#

it's dogshit

covert void
south kayak
#

i want rampage to do 90% of my damage

modest condor
#

they shouldnt buff the crit per stack any more

#

unless the damage per stack is giga high

edgy widget
#

Just buff the dam per stack more than the crit per

vocal gazelle
#

gimme 50% crit per stack, I wanna hurt things

edgy widget
#

I mean it was a buff overall

pliant obsidian
#

give as longer 2 hand blades that can reach say 8 to 10 yards instead of 5 i think

sullen dove
#

tru

edgy widget
#

And tbh a 1% overall buff isn’t bad

edgy widget
#

But compared to the 50-60% buff the arms tier got, it’s pretty shallow

covert void
#

I guess we'll know if they're paying attention / care because it should have a tweak pretty quickly in the next week or 2 you'd expect.

quiet geyser
#

Make it max 5 stacks instead of 10, and put those extra 5 stacks worth of damage into the 5 stacks 🙂

coral dock
sullen dove
pliant obsidian
#

agreed

winter shoal
sullen dove
#

you are NEVER stacking it up to 10 stacks

rigid stirrup
dense elbow
#

The Fury 1% buff special gladge
This is why they usually stick to 3% aurabuffs, at least then they know it buffs something

Fury is hard to sim.

sullen dove
#

even in season 2

#

silly it even goes that high

south kayak
#

Blizzard when they have to check sims to see how much a tier set buff would actually mean

modest condor
#

in s2 you could occasionally stack it up to 8 at least

pliant obsidian
#

lol box

quiet geyser
modest condor
#

the extra stacks were mostly just a "in case you dont get to bt in time you dont just lose all value" thing

sullen dove
#

could but if u had to then that means didnt have reck up for 2 rampages and then youve already lost cuz those 2 rampages probably took like 8 seconds to build and send

vocal gazelle
dense elbow
south kayak
#

remember prenerf s2 set

sullen dove
#

s3 playstyle gladge

#

ramp bb bb ramp bb bb

modest condor
#

first iteration on ptr keks

clever path
#

Remember pre-"fix" RA

sullen dove
#

was actually a good set

#

s1 was a fever dream tho

#

overcap 100 rage a second

modest condor
#

what was it again? 100% crit, 50% damage and cleaved hits gave stacks?

south kayak
#

if they can't and don't wanna balance stuff properly, they should just let us have all the tier sets and switch them off however we want

silent burrow
#

Double bb and cleaved set bonus would have been NUT

winter shoal
sullen dove
#

where server rageyrageyragey

south kayak
#

imagine being na

south kayak
#

tbh it would have been balanced

winter shoal
sullen dove
south kayak
#

Yeah it would

silent burrow
#

It would have been as strong as it should have been

south kayak
#

fury does 0 damage

sullen dove
#

including the cdr from ANY of your 5 bb bt's critting on aoe

coral dock
#

also make our improved whirlwind hit more than 4 damn targets

sullen dove
#

and it actually launched as that

winter shoal
modest condor
#

i remember when it got nerfed and it was still more than 30% dps increase, and then it got nerfed again and people were acting like the tierset got destroyed and we were gonna be useless

sullen dove
#

no but you could cleave getting cdr from any of them critting

south kayak
#

this tells me fury needs a baseline buff

silent burrow
#

all crits counted I thought, so could get mega cdr

sullen dove
#

oh idk if thats how it worked in ptr

#

it didnt work like that on live no

#

pretty sure at least

south kayak
#

that's how it should have been

dense elbow
sullen dove
#

feel like i wouldve noticed it

silent burrow
#

I think that's how it was at first on ptr

restive peak
#

I TOLD YOU ALL THEY WOULDNT TUNE IT AND I WAS MEME'D ONNNNNNNNNNNNN

sullen dove
#

if they say servers off for another hour

restive peak
#

At least arms is giga for now, but I miss fury already

sullen dove
#

we're gonna have problems

dense elbow
sullen dove
#

its noon what the flip

dense elbow
olive wraith
#

i mean a lot of us said that

restive peak
#

S2 set is giga dogshit, playstyle and dmg wise, it's so faceroll maaannnn

remote yew
#

servers plz

rigid stirrup
restive peak
buoyant halo
#

pleasepleaseplease open the servers im addicted to wow im feeling the withdrawal symptoms pleasepleaseplease

sullen dove
#

its def a lot better in aoe, but yea it is a lot simpler than s3

restive peak
#

It's not better in AOE though

winter shoal
restive peak
#

It's just EASIER and more CD focused

sullen dove
restive peak
#

S3 was the same for AOE, better ST, better skill ceiling etc

pliant obsidian
#

so without spamming bloodthirst with the s4 set our survival is pretty bad now?i just did 2's last week in s3 and still died a lot lol

olive wraith
#

no, fury still tanky

#

just not as tanky as last season

pliant obsidian
#

than god

#

thank

sullen dove
#

hitting reck/rav is a lot better on aoe than a single odyns fury

#

but two odyns furies and roar is a lot better than again, reck/rav and some longer avatar

restive peak
#

It feels better

#

It doesn't translate to actually being better though

#

S3 was perfectly solid in AOE w sick ST

vocal gazelle
#

I did love ST fights in s3

coral dock
#

did they seriously not do any tweaking for warriors?

covert void
#

Am I one of the few that really liked S3.. ha

restive peak
#

They didnt do basically any tweaking for anyone

sullen dove
#

was solid yea but like cant say outside of 90s odyns came close to 4 more seconds of avatar, 8 seconds of reck and like 12 seconds of hurricane

coral dock
#

we started out in the middle and now are at the very bottom

covert void
#

I know fury is a bit braindead but felt like it needed more thought than the other seasons to me at least.

pliant obsidian
#

the tweaking is the better gear and stats i guess

mossy fox
vocal gazelle
#

they are gonna give us the jenny from the block treatment though

south kayak
#

I liked it

restive peak
sullen dove
#

yea

mossy fox
#

Was a huge split between s2 and s3 voters on this discord

rose bay
#

s3 very fun

buoyant halo
#

LETMEINLETMEINLETMEIN

sullen dove
#

that big tru

vocal gazelle
#

Started from the bottom, now I'm on top

sullen dove
#

ok no but fr tho where server

winter shoal
olive wraith
#

open the servers damn

sullen dove
#

i want to get my axe b4 school

buoyant halo
#

i want my weekly vault dopamine LET ME IN

rose bay
#

i like s2 but i dont trust blizzard to tune a can opener, much less a class.

spring fox
pliant obsidian
#

I cant wait this week for vault get all my gear to 515 with that darn flightstone grind ugh

coral dock
#

i like the playstyle of s2 better, just feels like i am casting harder hitting spells more often instead of every 45 seconds or whatever. But s3 definitely seems to have performed better

frank dawn
#

plz buff flightstones

#

we need so many lol

pliant obsidian
#

yea lol

mossy fox
south kayak
olive wraith
mossy fox
winter shoal
spring fox
south kayak
#

Flightstones suck tho, we should get a buff

mossy fox
#

cause arms happened to roll critical success

coral dock
south kayak
#

like 100% flightstones after capping them once

sullen dove
covert void
south kayak
#

🕵️

winter shoal
sullen dove
#

exact same talents just buffs different things

covert void
#

all opinions I guess, we all like different playstyles.

sullen dove
#

one you hit execute a little more

rose bay
#

arms bis. having 25% extra crit randomly if pog

sullen dove
#

one you hit cleave/tclap more often

spring fox
sullen dove
#

everything else is constant

olive wraith
vocal gazelle
#

the in game timer is 10 am PDT now

#

outside game is still 9am PDT

south kayak
#

Where is cata prepatch tho

buoyant halo
#

:C

pliant obsidian
#

there really isnt a cap on flightstones just have to use em or lose em but still the grind

covert void
#

Arms is fun anyways, been a nice new challenge. Miss fury though already :(

vocal gazelle
#

so we got a bit longer guys

sullen dove
#

wtf

mossy fox
sullen dove
#

no way removing plunderstorm is this hard

vocal gazelle
#

it is man, why would I lie to you?

sullen dove
#

ya i do think it was nicer s3 quality of life to auto thunderclap

vocal gazelle
#

go in game and it says 10 am PDT now

sullen dove
#

but regardless spending more rage cant complain

#

having to hit thunderclap natty

mossy fox
#

but s1 opened up cleave and was just overall good so thats what made me vote that (+ small bonus for not havint same set twice in a row)

covert void
#

omg auto thunderclap? sounds so much better lol

winter shoal
#

s3 arms + s2 fury, it's kaching wa season baby

covert void
#

wtf

#

I mean, it's not awful to TC now but yeh, sounds fun.

south kayak
rose bay
#

cleave feels weird, feels like i have 2 be in a mobs butthoie to hit his friends

vocal gazelle
#

launcher now reflects the time on reload

pliant obsidian
#

yea servers wont be up for another hour mine says

sullen dove
#

why did i even wake up

pliant obsidian
#

lol

south kayak
#

what now

spring fox
vocal gazelle
#

because you wanted this intense discussion and Anger 😄

sullen dove
#

yea

south kayak
vocal gazelle
#

we all know you just wanted to prep for your Northrend Cup

south kayak
#

i haven't done a single cup

vocal gazelle
#

I've done the 2 girls one, wasn't impressed

sullen dove
brazen island
#

Are there any fury enjoyers that can speak to how it is compared to arms rn?

pliant obsidian
#

anything to do with 2 women sounds impressive to me lol

sullen dove
#

bout 10% worse in raid and equalish in m+ but super high mob count aoe arms flies ahead

modest condor
#

yeah and the meta right now is pulling 3 packs at a time

sullen dove
brazen island
#

I swapped to arms after i got 4pc, and it feels strong, but just wanna check in on fury

brazen island
#

Yeah that sounds about right

vocal gazelle
#

this week won't be insane pulls in +10 and up though

sullen dove
#

fort bolster

vocal gazelle
#

sub +10 will be the same with huge pulls like last week

pliant obsidian
#

Fury and bladestormn went together i want me moveable aoe ability back

vale reef
#

shits gonna be easy +9s though with just entangling

brazen island
#

Fury feels way more fun to play except for when a boss hits 30% hp and you’re just spamming execute in smash windows

#

But that’s just an opinion of a longtime fury coper

mossy fox
brazen island
#

Vdh needs to be taken out back, man

dense elbow
#

As long Fury beats Arms on 5t, all is right in the world

brazen island
#

It’s pretty much either vdh or your key is 3x harder

rigid stirrup
#

They just need a way to evenly distribute the util amongst all the tanks. Vdh having all the stops known to man feels so bad

dense elbow
#

It's fine, that is balanced out by them being more squish :^)

Not sure why we discussing VDH in fury tho

eternal canopy
#

they must be tuning us

south kayak
#

Why are discussing the meta

eternal canopy
#

thats why servers are late

south kayak
#

we*

dense elbow
#

Why discuss a meta we are not part of?

brazen island
#

My bad bro, everyone stop talking about everything not fury

pliant obsidian
#

were meta always have been always will be oh wait wrong discord lol

brazen island
#

How is the fury today?

olive wraith
#

down bad

dense elbow
#

Fury is decent - gets the job done

silent burrow
mossy fox
brazen island
#

Lmfao sarcasm undetected i guess

pliant obsidian
#

last week any indication fury is op nobody but a geared ret got me lol

eternal canopy
brazen island
#

Or was in low keys with no ramp time on packs

onyx sparrow
#

So it's op because you run with undergeared players? Lol

pliant obsidian
#

nope had a rogue or 2 and a lock almost but nah

chilly fractal
silent burrow
#

spriest, hunter, dev

#

all go brrt