#fury
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Sincere question, does anyone think that the season 2 tier is better than season 3?
wdym by better, because in my opinion it's more enjoyable to play, yes.
but it is weaker, that's just a fact
s4 set is 10x more fun but does a lil less dmg
a lil 
blizzard told people to vote for what they enjoyed and the power would be tuned accordingly (they lied) but that's why people voted season 2
it's carried by higher item level
I see the one from S3 with more synergy than the one from 2
the s4 set synergises very well with anger management and onslaught for very high reck uptime which means less rampages required per bloodthirst guaranteed crit
and also the ability to press rampage a lot more
most things in the season 4 build play into having reck up as much as possible
I personally think it feels really good to play and really intuitive, and feels much more 'fury' than the other builds this expansion. The numbers are just a bit low...
I don't think ravager build is enjoyable. I preferred s3 just because it had some very good single target focus when it was needed
Fury st went from pretty decent to cheeks
yeah but again that's a numbers and tuning issue, do you think you'd still prefer s3 if s4 did more single target damage?
Probably. Playing around odyns was more fun. Personal opinion
I understand
that's fair enough, I also liked odyns fury but the playstyle of s4 is the winner for me
I definitely prefer the playstyle of s2/4
i'm also in the s2/s4 camp, much more enjoyable playstyle imo
Especially in keys
shame the numbers arent great atm but we can cope for buffs
well I hope the stat scaling feels good
eek
'stat scaling' aint saving anyone
buffed auto attacks by 50%
s word
why did you manipulate the vote? huh?
real
we need help from the guys in the sky
~how much of a dps loss is s4 compared to s3
Assuming equal ilvl
i paid of russian botters to use their accs to vote
thoughts
i just did it myself
well i was banned
20000 voters in 2 minutes
i couldnt vote m8
noob lol
real
someone used a chinese eating wa yday
Tier set felt far more impactful to playstyle in s3 than s2/4
"This button hits harder every now and then" compared to changing the way you dance around OF
That's how I see it at least. Not that I hated s2, just prefer s3
But on the bright side it pushed me to finally learn arms
Eating wa's, why is this a thing
s3 locked you into a dogshit manifestation of something that was cool years ago
we hate DF OF
Chat, what’s the chance of fury buffs this week?
it doesnt even do fire or shadow damage
non 0
why is it pure physical
Maybe, I'm new to warrior so maybe I don't view it the same way as lifelong warrior gamers
i mean yes you technically are correct in saying that the s3 tier was more impactful on playstyle because it physically didnt work unless you played the talents that it says
What time do we usually see the first NA weekly chests pop up in here?
No buffs 
bro if they nerf us AGAIN
galastronk tier cook
im gonna give blizzard a piece of my god damn mind
you havent been nerfed in ages
Don't speak them into existence 
wait what even was the last nerf dps warriors got as a whole
ye no i mean actual aura nerfs
Why nerf what always sucks?
same way assa got nerfed last tier i mean
assa got murdered
you will play dogshit vanish cdr and you will like it
I mean we are getting 5% bigger in WW so.....
We have a clear and cut advantage over every other class coming up fr fr
you mean in the way that we were fine then specs started getting buffed and we just slowly fell towards the bottom?
yes
im tryna hit these 3mil dps peaks like these bm hunters
Gl
its devious what hunters can do
@oblique trail as yellow do you know how i can obtain 700 flightstones by tomorrow?
plunderstorm!
otherwise go live inside of m+!!
no life them mythics lmao
I don't know how else to farm flightstones because I am not planting flowers for a living!!
i will utilize the forbidden third option of doing the blue dragonflight questline

how many stones do you get from keys anyway
some bullshit
I got a 528 wep from raid so I'm ready to immediately upgrade my legendary. Rip all my flightstones
I've been capped for a few days now because I have nothing to upgrade
:her:
no nitro moment
:her:
fuck
i dont have it unlocko
are you not in tmys
:her:
nay
tiny her
fps (flightstones per hour) is crazy for the blue dragonflight questline
why would you settle for less dam
what
spongie lmao
mr making bread
dishing out bands on bands for a tier 3 weap enchant
Spongie extorted me for all of my belongings at the start of the season, so now this is all I have to my name
enough for a weapon enchant at least
im fighting tooth and nail to repair my gear
LMAO
I found 365k across my alts that I didnt know I had at the start of this season
shoulda joined phoenix i got like 1m gold for boosting the last 2 raids of s3
@warm crag teach me your extortion skills
aware
it is too shrimple
GIVE ME MY GOLD BACK
@compact siren also owes me 200k
also got 5mil for m+ boosts in the last couple of weeks of s3 
just boost mythic fyrakk or
stay humble
actually free money
you need friends to sell boosts
mentally yes if you get a second legendary out of it
lego -> lego opener
holy moly i get to do mediocre damage for twice as long
does the first legendary press consume all the marks of the second one
should i reroll my undead priest to void elf?
can you afford it?
yes
Why is that a bad response
does it matter or
No it doesn't, I just thought void elves look cooler
i dont think you need advice about taste from skyhold
That is true
if you want cool velf spriest go for it
do not faction swap if it's mythic and you've already cleared some bosses this week
HC doesn't work on a lockout basis
why not
that's true
rn is the best time to do it
I assume it's lockout issue
i mean yeah but thats why you transfer before weekly reset
Because you will literally not be able to enter the same mythic lockout if you fac swap
Unless it's been changed since I already made this mistake at the end of Shadowlands
as long as you do the transfer before reset after your last raid of the week its fine
Yes but the last raid of the week would be tonight
it has not changed
why do you raid tuesdays? perish
it bricks your lockout for the week
I don't
I do not
But Box said he has raid tonight
what are you race changing to
undead is my least favourite race probably
It's one of my favorites lmao
cannibalize someone on mythic fyrakk prog
raid leader paid for my gf to race change to undead for anduin 💀
she hated it
if everyone else has 1% crit or haste or whatever
1% damage
then why does undead have this dogshit
vulpera doesnt
they have a bag of tricks on gcd that does less damage than a gcd usually
real
Vulpera doesn't count
But the raid isn’t awakened anymore
it is?
NA moment
It is
what the fuck is a kilometer 🦅
DID INF HEALING AT SOME POINT
caps
woah
bed time
Box
or good morning
Sanyaza for blue name 2029
How u doing
I’m pretty good bro
That's cool
Dracthyr look so goofy
I wanna play deva
but i can't get over how they look

Real and true, I have now sent you 196,273 gold
Please leave me alone
What about the rest
I gave him head pats
head pats worth that low?
@oblique trail good pfp
thanks
any word on tuning just yet for fury?
the sarcasm hurts
but as far as i know, no tuning yet
fingers crossed for that sweet 90k dps
i pump
amen 😄
all we can do is yap abt it for now lmao
@modest condor good pfp
is mine good too
can you stop blaming your overalls on the set
90k is literally s1 ilvl numbers
thats not something that actually happened lmao
youd have to try to get something that low
No
pretty sure its soloable
dont u need a certain cape or some shit tho for one of the bosses or am i buggin out
i think u do for last 2 but idk if that's required on lfr/normal or only mythic?
i didnt do the raid
its been so long i dont even remember
other than that im pretty sure its soloable/duoable
There are usually groups that go up for it a few times a day but AFAIK I don't know anyone that's soloed it
are there like set mechanics that require x amount of people? unless its like a 1 shot mechanic you should just be able to eat it
well not 1 shot but a high ass damage mechanic
you need cape for nzoth or you get rolled

it is definitely required on lfr
lfr nzoth wasnt infamously the most difficult boss of the raid for no reason
because half the raid would instantly get mced

I remember
good days
Didn't they make it a requirement to have the cloak to enter LFR
or not
what ilvl shit can you buy with the buillons
Starts at 493, upgrades to 528/535
just get legendary
assuming i can find a raid, havent been able to get a kill on him yet
whats the normal/heroic drop rate for it?
oh wait doesnt ur drop rate go up everytime u fumble
yes
think normal barely worth looking at but heroic idk, increases semi steadily every week on heroic
thats more doable then
to where its guaranteed on 15th kill
but 15 is a lot starting from scratch
so hopefully u got some kills under belt already
i have 1 kill on him and idek what difficulty its on
i came back at the very end of s3
obviously ignore the "old"
yeh ill try to get a heroic kill on him every week from here on out
silence clown
🧏♂️ 🤫
no u
dastardly
BYE BYE

Yeah... fury kind of feeling like it needs some wd40 to get things turning lol
Hoping for some heavy tuning. Dam profile is pretty flat compared to s3
thats kinda the point no
When is a sub par flat dam profile ever fun
insane vault inc 
outlaw's p fun
outlaw is NOT subpar 
flat is justice
holy
Okay flat is fun if the flat dam is high
But when you're flat and have twice/three times the cpm as arms but don't go anywhere near the damage, we have the current state of fury. Maybe things change with Lego and trinkets but it feels giga bad rn





i mean yeah you're being tuning diffed
get rolled
this is exactly what i rigged the vote for
tru
perish fury perish
the s2 voters that arent lying are the ones that purposefully wanted to sabotage fury
to raise arm stonks
leg enjoyers
Honestly respect
hosen check
hosenless
the main thing stopping me from playing arms is the fact that id have to regear for arms
ill be damned
no u dont
False
eh i mean, a little maybe
isnt arms super gear dependant?
its not that crazy tho
tf you mean you have to regear you're literally just wearing what is highest ilvl rn
Maybe a few haste heavy things
there is no shot you farmed m+ to the point where you can have multiple gearsets at max ilvl
ok and
(Laughs in 40% arms haste)
spec unplayable without certain number of stats 
every spec is
ill run some sims when the servers are up but from what i remember i sim higher as fury rn
w/ perfectly itemized s3 bis from last tier that might be true but even then im p sure arms simmed higher
arms was like 5k higher st last season
I mean Sims are a bait since most bosses aren't a patchwork where you'll just be sitting there slamming boss. Whiff a ravager and it's gg
how tf are you whiffing ravagers
real
if you telling me you've never thrown a ravager on the ceiling, I call you a liar
no
yeah it happens like once a month maybe
cause i have a @player macro
no but i have thrown one in a tree
i just have a cast @ player macro for ravager so i never miss it lmao
if you're making gearing and spec choices around missing a ravager consistently enough to make a dent on your performance you need god
I mean can't control tanks from sudden boss movement
just go nightfae

should just expect when bosses need to be moved and act accordingly, and if they are actually just moving for no reason then flame them
simple as
rat ass tanks

kiting last boss of nokhud around the entire arena like its a carnival
tf he doing allat for
stand the fuck still
god damn
just some horseplay
I think fury will be good for fort week but we'll see
it wont
its "good" any week
🧢
up to certain targets at least, like fury is going to be piss in comparison to arms in an algethar for instance
but its probably fine enough in other dungeons with smaller pulls
like rlp/vault/neltharus
some of em can have big pulls was just rippin out random examples
Praying for tuning next week
its fun when your unbuffed buttons do 12K non crit 
holy shit m glad were rid of BT spam
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
people have been praying for tuning since the s2 set won
havent gotten any

We technically did it was just sub par
Fury is more than fine for your 10s, and likely all the way up to the top 0.1%.
Ya'll can start argue fury vs arms when that point is reached - but I know ya lads aint close to that

💀 ?
Weird flex
what is blud waffling about tho
anyone know if weekly vault raid slot is every raid or just the awakened one for the week
?
it wasnt a nerf at all rly
they have this anoying problem of havng less HP and no warpaint
i think they did accumulate? or maybe only when they're all fated
in slands it was all of them
i do distinctly remember clearing mythic KT first week available and getting jaithys out of vault dont remember if any nathria loot was in there
I think hes referencing the idea that silm said how it can be a nerf if u change it in the way they did
The highest tier avaible, so if you did Anto mythic and Vault HC, vault HC got higher ilvl as such is picked.
that only applies if they didnt buff the dmg increase per stack, which they did
mythic awakened augury week 1 🙏
i think we kinda goober mathed that out
but yeah if it just increased critchance and didnt buff dmg bonus it would not be better
wait so i can get like
mythic brand
or random mythic piss from other raids
i dont want that i want eranog ring

I'm pretty sure it's based off that weeks fated
ok
soo
And when they're all unlocked it's based off bosses in whatever raid you did
i'm pretty sure that was how fated vault worked. you could get any item from all raids in the great vault
am i trolling not running shockwave in keys
so if i got CE in season 1 but only killed 2 bosses on mythic this week, is the whole raid in my vault
I think it's based of bosses you killed that week
i really like having shockwave in keys regardless
I mean it's up to you. At some point if you're pushing you'll need more stops
@onyx sparrow @vocal gazelle because we follow streamer like critcake bizentein who say vote season 2, see what happen now ? they jebaited us
care to explain @scenic quest @mossy fox
no
Pretty sure it's based on which awakened bosses you've killed
no shouldnt be
im hoping we can get buffed so i dont have to compensate
big truck vibes
red camaro
I don't think they baited anyone, lol
someone just made an alt to ping those 2 and just joined server 😭
its not that deep
I just want them to increase the skills to fall in line with other specs
People voted thinking blizz would do their job with proper equal tuning
Which was a big mistake
S3 voters knew this
I'm a positive polly though, and think they'll get in line eventually
til then, I play arms and enjoy myself
I'm in that same boat
I certainly don't blame streamers, in fact, I think they play a pivotal role in changes to show disparity
plus I just like @mossy fox

from what i can find it's just vault of incarnates loot this week, next week if you kill all of aberrus then vault loot can be incarnates or abberus the week after
well if it IS still vault loot then its good that its first few i killed and presumably not the whole raid
numbers are not a W
in all fairness they said they were gonna tune it appropriately
idk how they arrived at 2% buff but whatever
Right, I didn't love the annihitalor build, so I'd agree. Something just didn't feel right about annihilator
tbf the last thing the average fury player needs is even more negative perception about their usefulness to a group.
u didnt have a random button to spam every possible waking second with no cooldown
All fury needs is a meaty buff to prio damage
so if u didnt play right or sometimes get unlucky you can just have dead globals and not hit anything for a second or two
yeah for sure
honestly buff rampage damage 10%
So s3
where as u can spam ww and rb as much as you want for no effect
Idc about annihilator. Big OF damage burst windows is where it was at
And big dopamine
yep 
yea i mean potential loss of filling every gcd aside was good to feel like your cooldowns mattered
opener sure was weird tho
I'm fine with being lower in the season like we always are. We always end up higher at the end
real 
scaling with aura buffs
that and people learning how to properly play the spec again
arms moment
except we havent been doing that in df
another 5% whirlwind cleave damage buff randomly 
you must not have been playing dragonflight because it's been the opposite this whole expansion lol
im too zug to understand this pin, so in this case do I buy lego tomorrow or Ash
we tend to catch up a touch, but you're right, it's not huge
i think buff rampage would do it
leggo 100%
it would trickle down to aoe thru ww anyways
ty
I agree just referencing the wonky ass random 5% ww cleave damage buff on the 10.1.5(I think or somewhere around there)
amen to that
yeah maybe i just figured cause we're hitting rampage more this szn anyways
than bt
I always love a buff, but I can still think they are a bit random lol
apologies if its covered somewhere else i have been having a flick through but just wondering if 2p/2p is worth or stick with s3 till full 4p?
wait for 4pc in a vast majority of cases
stick until 4p, but if u wanna game s2 talents swap tenderize with odyns and 2p2p is really fun 🙂
❤️ thanks guys
someone in yoda's chat was saying you conned the warrior playerbase into handicapping themselves 
Nah people are just sheep
s2 appearance was the solid choice though
S3 was winning till like the last week or two of voting?
s3's appearance was horrid
S2 was the least meh appearance but I think we got the short end of the stick tier set wise the whole xpac
this week we get some sexy axes though, lets GOOOO
I just need 30 aspects and my Lego will be fully upgraded 🙂
60 to upgrade to full?
90
noice
if u dont have weapon higher than 515
yea i'm not surprised
Ahaahahahah
tbf many people had "reach/influence" during voting
Shame on you for being popular and good at your class crit
wasnt only s2 propaganda
S2 had some true degens tho, just sayin'
Cant blame the players tho, I blame the voteing system
how can anyone but the people who balance it be blamed lmao
I blame Obama
literally said the sets will be balanced accordingly, so i voted s2 for playstyle and thats that
^ hear hear!
We could have s1!
s1 is real gigachad set
Stupid S2 voters >:(
I voted for S1 
600k!
s1 was fundamentally impossible to balance unless they added or changed stuff about it
if they balanced it well no one would be complaining
If we see some buffs today, then sure - if not, then nah
yeah thats adding
pri sure
i think we wouldve seen buffs already
if it was this reset
typically on mondays
fury is not saved
for the next tuesday
yeah I think there is zero chance we get buffs until next reset at this point
and even then...odds are low xd

Honestly they should've just did that initial "buff" way higher for s2 set and scaled it down from there if it was gapping too hard.
yeah my hopium tank runs out in a month
That is a wellstocked hopium tank, Alpha has fed ya well
i dont think they would even think about touching it till people are max gear.
Why can’t we just spend some currency and update tier 3 if that’s what we want
S4 arms is generating a lot of hopium
If only I didnt prefer Fury
cant be bothered to balance 2 sets what!
theyd have to do more work
unironically think it will be the play to equip old tier for tindral
anything else feels bad
But S3 feels so good and S4 feels lame
u can play whatever on any other boss prolly but just the perfect root break timings and aoe cooldowns
idk
that may just be the dungeon pool
Can confirm
Love me some ruby life pools though
Ya I am primarily M+
Expecting blizzard to actually balance it though too, is kind of an error on the voter.
S4 feels like shit because we spend all that time ramping put bt for shit damage
yeah how dare s2 voters not predict the future
When there's ample evidence that as warriors we don't tend to get balanced well, a lot of the time, yeah.
shouldve just not had an incorrect opinion and they wouldnt have to 


i mean just cuz we havent as much this xpac doesnt mean we dont
Hello everyone did you see the new Blue Post? The Warrior Fury is deleted! What now will we do ?
we were mostly on the top half or even top third of dmg most tiers i think
so not much to balance
rejoice
But, trusting blizzard at their word on balancing is a mistake, clearly. They didn't balance the fury set well.
it seems
yea
I voted purely off gameplay and I just liked s3 more. Good dam was just another W for it
Meanwhile boomies lmao
I didn't vote for s2, because it was more obvious it wouldn't be balanced properly.
Well, I enjoyed s3 more too, but damage was good so double positives for me.
instead of risking it on blizzards 'word'
no it's not this is an awful take
How?
it wasnt a risk because the s2 set was tuned for s2
I didnt vote s2, because I didnt think they'd balance it well. They haven't. So, it's right.
and it wasnt bad in s2
literally proven
Hate to break it but the set was also pretty bad in S2
there you go
huh, it definitely wasnt
Expecting blizzard to do loads in s4 too? like, they want as little work as possible
It was only ever great in AoE
already working on TWW etc. full focus elsewhere.
that's jsut fury itself no? wasn't the set like 12% st or something?
It was wishful thinking imo.
which stat bonus is best in academy? mastery?
And it still is great in AoE
no, fury itself was undertuned in raid, the tierset was fine
prolly not cuz u already have so much? maybe verse or something
Although let's see I guess? maybe they buff it. But, who is expecting it, genuinely.
verse is pretty giga on a lot of classes because it's a flat 5% instead of an amount of vers rating
i think its pretty objective s2/playstyle is better in m+ and plenty fine to understand ppl voting it for that reason but u have to be bonkers to think s2 will come anywhere close to s3 in raids almost built around s3 set
so what youre saying is they should have buffed us instead of giving us a ST band aid with s3 set?
here's a sheet with the % increases to st and aoe and fury was above average
right? it was pretty up there comparitively with other classes
I remember getting given mine quite early in a hof guild
wasnt this from last tier to new tier, where s1 fury tier was like 2%
not "from no tier to tier"
no because then fury would have been by far the highest
12% isn’t particularly high, S3 is way better ST and almost the same in AoE
ye that is true, but in s2 i mean 12% was pretty good
didnt fury do pretty well early on in s2 with the new set, only to slowly fall behind as others got buffed
I'm no crit, or 0.1%'er but S3 felt like we were at our strongest.
In S2 it was, but bonuses got power crept
yeah but it was ass cheeks to play
I enjoyed it the most, so guess thats opinion based
Yeah, power creep has hit fury every tier this expansion
and still bad in keys
except last tier 😎 almost
But by the end of each patch, fury was kinda mid
then ret got buffed...
🧢
I dont think it was anywhere near as bad as it is right now comparatively
and remember everyone in here yapping about how ret is just a better warrior
fun times
for raid this is definetely the case, people voted season 2 coz of anger management(including me)
The whole point of the poll was to vote for the set you liked most, independent of tuning. You're allowed to prefer s3 over s2, but if your issue with s4 is that the numbers are bad, blame blizzard not the voters
Also that 20% buff Furys tier got was like a 1% actual damage buff, it’s so insignificant
we all do, dont worry
Def blame Blizz on that one
what order should we spend bullion after lego upgrade??
hahah then the buff arms tier got was hilarious, like what the actual fuck
We knew this would happen with season 2 fury lmao don’t give me tuning
I wonder how many people who voted S2 fury are now playing arms?
wowhead guide should have most of that covered but generally either like eranog ring/some good trinket from raid
But anyone who thought S2 was gonna “save fury” is kinda coping, since S3 set was always better - better ST and almost the same in AoE (plus burstier)
Blizzard doesn't even know how their tier sets work LMAO
Being back s3 
there was also a new wowhead post like 2 seconds ago about things to buy
Like, easy to say s2 was fun, and good gameplay, but I bet loads have switched to arms already who voted for it.
all this "saving fury" and "dps" talk is irrelevant because blizzard said to vote for playstyle and that they would tune it
it is fun and good gameplay
yea i mean simple fact of arms being better ppl just will
Imagine arms and fury being able to eat together
EU griefed fury. Arms season for sure
so we voted for the playstyle we liked with the assumption there would be tuning
that blizzard then ended up not properly tuning isnt our fault
Exactly, so voting based purely on gameplay and fun isn't going to work when most care about damage etc. most.
You know what they say about assumptions
well, not everyone ofc, but generally.
I agree it should have been, but it was still a huge “campaign slogan” for drumming up votes
Expecting proper buffs is cope
Expecting anythng from s4 was cope
Yes, and to expect different was silly, imho.
buff rampage from 2p by 60% damage
real
still less damage than arms
Then blizz nerfs meat cleaver down to 20%
Seems pretty clear to me Blizz tried do quick S4 tuning through tier instead of actual spec changes (hence the unreasonable buff to Arms), but I think they just really misjudged the impact of fury’s set, cause the 4p buff was literally like a +1% change
But I suspect they’re in full TWW mode anyway

if this is true then where's my alpha access 
This i 100% agree with
Wasn't it a realistic expectation that they'd fuck it up though? that they clearly aren't focusing on S4 much. To have faith in them to actually tune it was a bit silly.
If only blizzard had acces to a tool that could sim the DPS something would do
Still wonder what they would have done with s3
100%
it is literally just this yep, i'm very sure
i mean they tuned s1 arms set by 50% 
nerfed it
only difference is arms base set was just 10x stronger
tho fury set wasnt really buffed by 50% either, not that that wouldve made it better dont think
like 15% crit per stack and 45% dmg bonus
maybe that evens out to not even be different
buff actual fury baseline damage
bt 1 ramp sooner again 
it's dogshit
In a way I'm glad as I haven't done Arms much this expansion so, nice to switch for the season anyways, but fair point. They did buff that.
i want rampage to do 90% of my damage
they shouldnt buff the crit per stack any more
unless the damage per stack is giga high
Just buff the dam per stack more than the crit per
gimme 50% crit per stack, I wanna hurt things
I mean it was a buff overall
give as longer 2 hand blades that can reach say 8 to 10 yards instead of 5 i think
tru
And tbh a 1% overall buff isn’t bad
TRUE
But compared to the 50-60% buff the arms tier got, it’s pretty shallow
I guess we'll know if they're paying attention / care because it should have a tweak pretty quickly in the next week or 2 you'd expect.
Make it max 5 stacks instead of 10, and put those extra 5 stacks worth of damage into the 5 stacks 🙂
100%. Our damage is already mediocre and then half of the boss attacks we have to back out of attack range to stay alive while every other melee class that already does more dps can back out and still dps
yea honestly prolly the only actually reasonable change
agreed
Put it back to how it was originally where each rampage crit gave you a stack 
you are NEVER stacking it up to 10 stacks
Change that to dam and we're cookin
The Fury 1% buff special 
This is why they usually stick to 3% aurabuffs, at least then they know it buffs something
Fury is hard to sim.
Blizzard when they have to check sims to see how much a tier set buff would actually mean
in s2 you could occasionally stack it up to 8 at least
lol box
Aura buff wouldnt work for this. The s3 set would still be stronger. The reasonable buff fury needs is to giga buff the new tier set
the extra stacks were mostly just a "in case you dont get to bt in time you dont just lose all value" thing
could but if u had to then that means didnt have reck up for 2 rampages and then youve already lost cuz those 2 rampages probably took like 8 seconds to build and send
why you put pictures of me up? 😄
Point was:
They usually do 3% aurabuffs, because they dont understand how Fury works and can't sim it.
first iteration on ptr 
Remember pre-"fix" RA
what was it again? 100% crit, 50% damage and cleaved hits gave stacks?
if they can't and don't wanna balance stuff properly, they should just let us have all the tier sets and switch them off however we want
Double bb and cleaved set bonus would have been NUT
and each individual crit of rampage gave a stack yeah
where server 


imagine being na
wasnt broken at all
Go make breakfast
tbh it would have been balanced
it would not have been balanced
isnt this like.. basically was s3 launched ass
Yeah it would
It would have been as strong as it should have been
fury does 0 damage
including the cdr from ANY of your 5 bb bt's critting on aoe
also make our improved whirlwind hit more than 4 damn targets
and it actually launched as that
can't cleave s3 buffed bts
i remember when it got nerfed and it was still more than 30% dps increase, and then it got nerfed again and people were acting like the tierset got destroyed and we were gonna be useless
no but you could cleave getting cdr from any of them critting
All wasn't it
all crits counted I thought, so could get mega cdr
oh idk if thats how it worked in ptr
it didnt work like that on live no
pretty sure at least
that's how it should have been
30% dmg increase from our old 4% tierset.
stonkz, start wetrag weak, become granite!
feel like i wouldve noticed it
I think that's how it was at first on ptr
I TOLD YOU ALL THEY WOULDNT TUNE IT AND I WAS MEME'D ONNNNNNNNNNNNN
if they say servers off for another hour
At least arms is giga for now, but I miss fury already
we all knew it was gonna get scuffed - why we said vote s1
its noon what the flip

i mean a lot of us said that
S2 set is giga dogshit, playstyle and dmg wise, it's so faceroll maaannnn
servers plz
This is why you're my fav
Loveyou
pleasepleaseplease open the servers im addicted to wow im feeling the withdrawal symptoms pleasepleaseplease
its def a lot better in aoe, but yea it is a lot simpler than s3
me asf!
It's not better in AOE though
bro s3 is a 1 button spec with the macro
It's just EASIER and more CD focused
xeos take
S3 was the same for AOE, better ST, better skill ceiling etc
so without spamming bloodthirst with the s4 set our survival is pretty bad now?i just did 2's last week in s3 and still died a lot lol
hitting reck/rav is a lot better on aoe than a single odyns fury
but two odyns furies and roar is a lot better than again, reck/rav and some longer avatar
It feels better
It doesn't translate to actually being better though
S3 was perfectly solid in AOE w sick ST
I did love ST fights in s3
did they seriously not do any tweaking for warriors?
Am I one of the few that really liked S3.. ha
They didnt do basically any tweaking for anyone
was solid yea but like cant say outside of 90s odyns came close to 4 more seconds of avatar, 8 seconds of reck and like 12 seconds of hurricane
we started out in the middle and now are at the very bottom
I know fury is a bit braindead but felt like it needed more thought than the other seasons to me at least.
the tweaking is the better gear and stats i guess
Nah, many people liked S3
they are gonna give us the jenny from the block treatment though
I liked it
no but the giga ST was notably better
yea
Was a huge split between s2 and s3 voters on this discord
s3 very fun
LETMEINLETMEINLETMEIN
that big tru
Started from the bottom, now I'm on top
It was very divisive, a lot of people liked it but a lot of people hated it. Same with s2 tbh
open the servers damn
i want to get my axe b4 school
i want my weekly vault dopamine LET ME IN
i like s2 but i dont trust blizzard to tune a can opener, much less a class.
Not even just the Discord. S3 won in NA vote, but EU voted for S2 so strongly that it won the overall
I cant wait this week for vault get all my gear to 515 with that darn flightstone grind ugh
i like the playstyle of s2 better, just feels like i am casting harder hitting spells more often instead of every 45 seconds or whatever. But s3 definitely seems to have performed better
yea lol
i must admit i visited this discord less often while the voting was happening, too much arguing
farm em bozo
your spells hit harder with s3 though
same with arms right, dont see many people complaining about that
Buddy there's the same amount of arguing now
Also buff the servers lol
Flightstones suck tho, we should get a buff
cause arms happened to roll critical success
yeah i know but i enjoy the CD spamming more often with S2
like 100% flightstones after capping them once
cuz arms playstyle does NOT change between 2 sets
Definitely seemed that way. I was having a blast S3, got into groups easy and pushed the highest I ever have. But, some people really didn't like it
🕵️
s3 arms best arms 
exact same talents just buffs different things
all opinions I guess, we all like different playstyles.
one you hit execute a little more
arms bis. having 25% extra crit randomly if pog
one you hit cleave/tclap more often
I'll admit that I don't care at all about arms, so I spent 0 time following that
everything else is constant
of casts came up faster than rav
Where is cata prepatch tho
:C
there really isnt a cap on flightstones just have to use em or lose em but still the grind
Arms is fun anyways, been a nice new challenge. Miss fury though already :(
so we got a bit longer guys
ya this is true, though s3 is probably the one that was actually more interesting/fun for arms
no way removing plunderstorm is this hard
it is man, why would I lie to you?
ya i do think it was nicer s3 quality of life to auto thunderclap
go in game and it says 10 am PDT now
but s1 opened up cleave and was just overall good so thats what made me vote that (+ small bonus for not havint same set twice in a row)
omg auto thunderclap? sounds so much better lol
s3 arms + s2 fury, it's kaching wa season baby

cleave feels weird, feels like i have 2 be in a mobs butthoie to hit his friends
launcher now reflects the time on reload
yea servers wont be up for another hour mine says
lol
what now
Too many people got grieftorch in their great Vaults, so they're going through 1 by 1 to change them to the same cloak /s
because you wanted this intense discussion and Anger 😄
yea

we all know you just wanted to prep for your Northrend Cup
i haven't done a single cup
I've done the 2 girls one, wasn't impressed

Are there any fury enjoyers that can speak to how it is compared to arms rn?
anything to do with 2 women sounds impressive to me lol
bout 10% worse in raid and equalish in m+ but super high mob count aoe arms flies ahead
yeah and the meta right now is pulling 3 packs at a time

I swapped to arms after i got 4pc, and it feels strong, but just wanna check in on fury
Yeah that sounds about right
this week won't be insane pulls in +10 and up though
sub +10 will be the same with huge pulls like last week
Fury and bladestormn went together i want me moveable aoe ability back
shits gonna be easy +9s though with just entangling
Fury feels way more fun to play except for when a boss hits 30% hp and you’re just spamming execute in smash windows
But that’s just an opinion of a longtime fury coper
vdh surely plays a big part in this
Vdh needs to be taken out back, man
It’s pretty much either vdh or your key is 3x harder
They just need a way to evenly distribute the util amongst all the tanks. Vdh having all the stops known to man feels so bad
It's fine, that is balanced out by them being more squish :^)
Not sure why we discussing VDH in fury tho
they must be tuning us
Why are discussing the meta
thats why servers are late
we*
Why discuss a meta we are not part of?
My bad bro, everyone stop talking about everything not fury
were meta always have been always will be oh wait wrong discord lol
How is the fury today?
down bad
Fury is decent - gets the job done
"It's a good size"
because we were about m+ meta pulls being 3+ packs at the same tike
Lmfao sarcasm undetected i guess
last week any indication fury is op nobody but a geared ret got me lol
must not have ran with any spriests then
Or was in low keys with no ramp time on packs
So it's op because you run with undergeared players? Lol
nope had a rogue or 2 and a lock almost but nah
did you not play with any geared people?

