We need to publicly shame s2 voters
#fury
sinful spoke
tender seal
no matter how much i fuck around with it.. arms just absolutely crushes fury in ST
sinful spoke
We actually got griefed
meager void
blame EU
eternal sundial
no matter how much i fuck around with it.. arms just absolutely crushes fury in ...
Pre icon nerf it was 60k diff
In full bis
tender seal
hehe
lunar basin
this with new tier sets or old
eternal sundial
Has to be new, no?
meager void
T30 with 528 Qalashi + Fyralath
summer quail
We actually got griefed
Even if fury had s3 tier arms would still leave it in the dust. Would be closer tho
eternal sundial
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ep89Usbot3NYk7XKNEk5vy
Arms simmed 255 im s3 gear xd
Better spec 
dapper goblet
late garden
wowhead has arms as C tier. the ONLY class and spec to be that low
meager void
by next month all fury warriors will have stacks of raid drop 2handers
sinful spoke
wowhead has arms as C tier. the ONLY class and spec to be that low
Yeah but that’s wowhead
If arms is c tier then fury is z tier
eternal sundial
wowhead has arms as C tier. the ONLY class and spec to be that low
SOD ty revvez clip v2 inc
late garden
arms feels really good, but im getting trucked so far. I was coming over to see how fury was doing
sinful spoke
Trucked?
Like dmg taken?
Idk I was doing a +9 uldaman as arms 490 and had no survivability issues
late garden
dmg meters. The usual suspects, DH, Rogue, warlock so far ive seen. I can literally bladestorm twice, avatar, recklessness, and dragon roar and get beat on a trash pack.
sinful spoke
Idk how that happened then cause I was fucking real hard with double. Bladestorm earlier
Only losing in dmg if I died once or twice by fucking up
late garden
im at 485, no new tier
sinful spoke
Me neither
eternal sundial
im at 485, no new tier
That doesnt help
meager void
if you want to beat anyone as warrior in AoE you kinda grab two 2handers to do it as a general rule
eternal sundial
if you want to beat anyone as warrior in AoE you kinda grab two 2handers to do i...
Ye or 4p
That's the large jump
late garden
thats what i was going to try next. Ive only done 2 keys so far. Both +5.
sinful spoke
.
oblique trail
2 keys isn't really a good sample size
meager void
which ones
late garden
ulduar and brackenhide
eternal sundial
2 keys isn't really a good sample size
I did 1 key with a ret and he did below philwar tank damage
Ret must suck
oblique trail
true
eternal sundial
Man i fucking despise playing prot
clever path
are the embellishments for mythic+ and raid both double SFP
summer quail
2 keys isn't really a good sample size
I've done 2 keys thus far, both AA and i was top. I think it's a great sample size
eternal sundial
are the embellishments for mythic+ and raid both double SFP
Aoe is bsl/lariat/vers wrist
Depends on damage intake
meager void
its not the size of the sample but how you use it
clever path
Aoe is bsl/lariat/vers wrist
is raid SFP?
meager void
check the most recent pin
oblique trail
I've done 2 keys thus far, both AA and i was top. I think it's a great sample si...
I've been top most keys as well
But some keys I just griefed or genuinely got gapped so wcyd
I'm convinced Brand is still shit
sinful spoke
ulduar and brackenhide
I did both of those and I giga out damaged everyone in the keys as arms
late garden
what did you average?
sinful spoke
Like over all?
late garden
yeah, end of dungeon
sinful spoke
I’m psure it was over 300k?
eternal sundial
I'm convinced Brand is still shit
Ive had it do okay dam when im the tank but otherwise ass trink
eternal sundial
Shouldve known better smh
sinful spoke
It did 8m dmg on hero rasz
4.7 on Terros mythic
Bro btw that fucking macro for rasz
Broke my fucking rampage mid pull
And I couldn’t press it and I didn’t notice for Good bit lost so much dmg because of it 
eternal sundial
It cannot unless ur using some CN shit
sinful spoke
I had to swap my rampage out by opening the spell book mid fight
summer quail
Bro btw that fucking macro for rasz
What macro
sinful spoke
The one to kick the sparks or w/e they’re called
summer quail
Oh, I didnt use that
sinful spoke
Good keep it that way
oblique trail
So like
sinful spoke
It broke my bars
oblique trail
Is it intended that I can't catalyse my hero track timewarped item
xd
But I can catalyse my champ track item
summer quail
Both timewarped?
oblique trail
yes
summer quail
oblique trail
idk guess I just wont have hero track gloves to cata
mellow crow
how is arms vs fury looking currently?
sullen dove
w shit!
mellow crow
damn hate to hear it
sullen dove
no mythic loot
might as well
still gonna have enough to insta send leggo next week
i wanna do primal council again
sucks have to wait 3 weeks
that shit was fun
spam the hell out of cleave
honestly i think i just upgrade heroic qalashi
right
like its wyrms but then axe wont cost wyrms
nothing else crazy to use it on other than random gear
tardy lark
I rocked up to council mythic without bladestorm talented, but I did have blademasters torment 👍
sullen dove
i went in with double bladestorm and fucked up opener so bad first pull
thank god we wiped
but after that i was a machine
tardy lark
As horrible of a boss as I remembered
oblique trail
I rocked up to council mythic without bladestorm talented, but I did have bladem...
very powerful
tardy lark
Still got a top 10 somehow
sullen dove
damn
im now upset i waited to upgrade b4 boss
just sent up 522 weapon
couldve owned primal council way harder
edgy widget
no reason not to upgrade a weapon unless you think you'll loot a higher weapon before next week
cause once you get the legendary upgrade, you're gonna dump currency into it regardless
Other stuff, you might as well wait for vault first, unless you're a hardcore week 1 push group gamer
sour tundra
do you use the legendary axe ability in AOE?
elfin vortex
weird question.. i got a neck with socket, i tried to add 2 more but it says that the setting was too low, i tried with all ranks, anyone have any idea if tis a bug?
eternal sundial
Ive seen others have this issue yea
lone locust
So legendary upgrade for your axe, you can only purchase it and not loot it for example killing Fyrakk again?
eternal sundial
They probably fix it soontm
eternal sundial
So legendary upgrade for your axe, you can only purchase it and not loot it for ...
Both works
But fyrakk is 2 weeks away
Dinar is one
tender cairn
should I get ashcandy or some trinket first 🤔
lone locust
Ok, thx
elfin vortex
They probably fix it soontm
ty a lot
frail cave
how is puzzle box.. i just got one i was thinking it could be better then my 483 rezans
still swift
puzzle me this
spiral oasis
why are ret paladins with fyralath allowed to roll on my weapons?
tender cairn
fury fell so that arms could fly /s
empty mirage
i miss pulling 700k dps off 4 ads
spiral oasis
i miss pulling 700k dps off 4 ads
what did they do
empty mirage
we just do low damage now
spiral oasis
But what did they change
empty mirage
idk exactly, we just do far less then we did beforehand
as far as i know were ranked as D tier
spiral oasis
as far as i know were ranked as D tier
according to whom
empty mirage
wowhead and icyveins pretty sure has tier lists
unreal onyx
I love tier lists, especially of specs within the first 2 days of a new season
vernal night
cause we didnt keep season 3 tier set
empty mirage
I mean for all i know they could be completely wroing but i feel like im doing less, maybe its the alcohol in me lmao
tender cairn
im definitely doing less
vernal night
im still pumping
empty mirage
i still do a lot dont get me wrong but its not as much
spiral oasis
I mean for all i know they could be completely wroing but i feel like im doing l...
i am not!
unreal onyx
I am a strong S3 stan, but you gotta take what you get and make the best of it
empty mirage
granted im no longer using season 3 tier set im using s4 tier 2 set so im not getting its full potential yet
oblique trail
I would just keep using S3 until you have S4 4p
tender cairn
actually wait I dont know how im doing
tender cairn
I forgot my dps meter is off
vernal night
arms is so fucking boring
tender cairn
empty mirage
yeah i think i might swap my pants back out and use my s3 4 set
unreal onyx
I never played arms in all of DF
gentle walrus
Gotta ride that S3 train as long as you can.
spiral oasis
granted im no longer using season 3 tier set im using s4 tier 2 set so im not ge...
bro has tier and doing bad damage?
empty mirage
i have 2 set, not 4
heady wedge
Lmao
empty mirage
oh i was fuckin tweakin for a sec
heady wedge
empty mirage
i need to find out for sure if you can only get 1 tier set currency
spiral oasis
i am fucking bugging out dude
empty mirage
if you can get multiple thatd be wild
tender cairn
lfr?
spiral oasis
no it's a normal group
tender cairn
bruh
empty mirage
id do it too for the mog
spiral oasis
id do it too for the mog
But what if other people actually get an item upgrade
empty mirage
win the roll
empty mirage
if i can need something i do it lmao
spiral oasis
they clearly do not give a shit
yeah it's cool i just think they are genuinely evil people
unreal onyx
i need to find out for sure if you can only get 1 tier set currency
You can get curio and clear raid
tender cairn
well not evil, but defo selfish
tender cairn
empty mirage
i just want the mogs, still a valid reason to roll on it
empty mirage
need the mog for drip
spiral oasis
or roll "transmog"
empty mirage
if i see that need button im pushing it
unreal onyx
Is S4 tier diff color?
empty mirage
sometimes if someone is rude to me ill need it, win, and sell it to them for gold lmao
empty mirage
mfs gotta eat
spiral oasis
sometimes if someone is rude to me ill need it, win, and sell it to them for gol...
most people r not rude
unreal onyx
I got a heroic ilvl tank trinket from the illidan TW cache
empty mirage
ive had my fair share
unreal onyx
When I was in arms
spiral oasis
most people say "Would i be able to get the weapon it's an upgrade for me"
I have never had ppl be rude to me when asking for a peiceo loot
tender cairn
my tw gave me this crap
empty mirage
that cheddah talks
spiral oasis
to which i say sorry i need mog
i would genuinely take time out of my day to make things worse for u going forward if u did some embarrassing shit like dat!
unreal onyx
I just ignore the people that whisper me when I get stuff for tmog
spiral oasis
what the fuck!!
empty mirage
hey works tho, bread is up
spiral oasis
u will get ur comeuppance
You definitely have a hard drive u do not want ppl to see if u be doin shit like dis
unreal onyx
LFR is just ffa with loot
spiral oasis
it's not lfr it's normal
empty mirage
if im able to roll on it then its fair game lmao
unreal onyx
So I just need on everything tmog that I can
empty mirage
not like im ninja looting it
tender cairn
ngl lfr should be personal loot
spiral oasis
ppl get together to spend 1-2 hours of their time to help eachother clear a raid so they can get upgrades
tender cairn
fuck that roll bs
empty mirage
and i do it for mogs
spiral oasis
i do not queue for raids to watch a paladin get transmog
chrome plover
can someone link that sim sheet
young swan
how is puzzle box.. i just got one i was thinking it could be better then my 483...
are u the sky i did BT with earlier
or is that a diff sky
unreal onyx
There should be a way to get lfr raid set appearance somehow without raiding lfr every week
spiral oasis
u should get lower level appearances if u clear it on a higher difficulty
tender cairn
real
spiral oasis
like if u clear mythic u get the heroic and normal appearances
or at least per piece
empty mirage
you just said if u clear mythic u should get heroic and normal
unreal onyx
Myth and hc is the easiest
spiral oasis
yes i think that if u get the mythic appearances u get heroic and normal too
unreal onyx
Out of all 4
spiral oasis
and lfr
empty mirage
oh yeah that would be gangster
spiral oasis
it all makes sense now
spiral oasis
the less empathetic have already been cursed
Fie! O fie unto this foolish transmog goober!
unreal onyx
I make it my quest to complete all sets per tier now
spiral oasis
My objective now is to learn all i can about the man who won this roll then left so that i can make his life worse.
unreal onyx
Voti I didn’t have that goal yet
unreal onyx
But I finished all 4 from aberrus and amirdrassil
spiral oasis
when will it be legacy
next expac rite
tender cairn
make it NOW
tender cairn
tell me bout it
unreal onyx
That you have to catalyze
tender cairn
wonder if there's any alr on ah
hallow sphinx
unreal onyx
wonder if there's any alr on ah
First week boe‘s are bop i think
tender cairn
wait rly
unreal onyx
Yup
tender cairn
oblique trail
Nop
unreal onyx
To combat whales skyrocketing in ilvl instantly, no?
oblique trail
There are Awakened BoEs on the AH
unreal onyx
I swear that was a thing in DF before
random magnet
should i have different enchants on each weapon or will taking the same on both be okay and not overlap and reset the other's cooldown? (2x wafting sims better but i've always used 1 each of sophic and wafting)
oblique trail
2x of the same enchant just makes the proc stronger
vital jewel
random magnet
2x of the same enchant just makes the proc stronger
thanks, more frequent too or just stronger?
oblique trail
Proc rate stays same, just stronger
random magnet
nice, thanks
oblique trail
There's a HC BoE helm rn on EU for 1.2 mill
unreal onyx
There's a HC BoE helm rn on EU for 1.2 mill
Hc 
tender cairn
more than I have 
uneven path
How sad is fury on ST jesus I'm simming with my current gear (T31, anni build + spear) 262k dps versus Season2 ST Talents, Awakened Tierset on 512 ilvl 260k dps
south kayak
fleet sorrel
@vital jewel
twilit temple
Sooo… got augury from my timewalking cache
oblique trail
powerful
twilit temple
Stoked also for mythic tomorrow
tender cairn
twilit temple
The thing is NA voted S3, EU voted S2 for fury. There were more overall between them for S2
unreal onyx
tw raid cache?
For killing illidan in tw
tender cairn
is it a q
unreal onyx
You get a hc raid piece from bt
tender cairn
or he just drops
oblique trail
You get a quest in Shattrath, which you then queue into BT with a group to finish
unreal onyx
never did any tw raids tbf
Same, but I wanted gear
twilit temple
I was half drunk in disc doing it, top 5 dmg every fight
unreal onyx
Skip run took me literally 5min overall
oblique trail
I did a full run because no skip groups up
Took like
30 min
Maybe closer to 40 idk
tender cairn
is it a premade grp or rng
oblique trail
I just looked second monitor while doing it
twilit temple
Skip run took me literally 5min overall
I was hoping rng for council trinket
oblique trail
Premade group
tender cairn
damn
twilit temple
Temporary upgrade
twilit temple
^
unreal onyx
I cant believe people still wiped on illidan in tbc classic
tender cairn
it was me
unreal onyx
Bossfight is:do dmg, kill 2 adds, do dmg
tender cairn
instructions unclear, fell off the top of black temple
frail cave
are u the sky i did BT with earlier
If you were in a group with ether Elunesrage nelf or unholybeauty belf bdk from malganis
Then yes
tender cairn
so many skies
unreal onyx
I only see one when looking outside
frail cave
Think fury will compete better vs arms the later we get into the season?
unreal onyx
surely
olive wraith
No
unreal onyx
With current tuning, no
tender cairn
damn changing to arms rn
unreal onyx
Buff fury
tender cairn
abandon ship
unreal onyx
I will propably unironically switch to arms next week
tender cairn
tbf I was thinking it alr, but less cuz of tuning
and more cuz we alrdy have fury and I dont wanna mirror
😔
unreal onyx
I don’t like arms, I want fast fury gaming without much thinking
unreal onyx
But the ST dps diff is too big imo
tender cairn
ye I like the feel of fury more
south kayak
dying to hurricane wing
unreal onyx
A good fury does the same dps as a mid arms player
south kayak
pog
unreal onyx
Well, dps-wise you gotta crank fury way harder than what you have to with arms
A fury that does 100% right is only as good as an arms that does 80% right
Metaphorically speaking
tender cairn
btw
unreal onyx
dying to hurricane wing
Votekick them all
tender cairn
which one loses more w/o leg
unreal onyx
I would assume arms, but idk
tender cairn
frick
unreal onyx
Both lose a lot without lego
indigo quarry
If you wanna do dmg Arms is the way 
spiral oasis
If you wanna do dmg Arms is the way <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
good
arms is BACK on the menu
chrome plover
tbf if you're outside top 100 it doesnt rly matter
tender cairn
true true
tender cairn
last time I tried mythic raiding was tomb
south kayak
s4 not really exciting
unreal onyx
but what are you gonna do in raid nights when you clear hc too fast
Log off I guess
chrome plover
you can crossrealm mythic now may as well pug 2-3 players if u wanna play mythic
tender cairn
never wanted to mythic raid since
altho I was on healer
dps might be less stressful
unreal onyx
Didnt I read a wowhead headline that says I can get myth gear from not raiding myth?
tender cairn
yea
chrome plover
from m+ vault?
tender cairn
vault
chrome plover
same as always
tender cairn
yes vault?
unreal onyx
With some kind of upgrade or whatever
chrome plover
yeah with dinars
south kayak
tender cairn
gg
south kayak
poggers
unreal onyx
With dinars I don’t have to raid myth like in sl?
chrome plover
Screen Captured
chrome plover
With dinars I don’t have to raid myth like in sl?
dinar gear is on it's own track i think?
maybe im chatting
tender cairn
whats dinar
unreal onyx
I just want ilvl without a myth raid guild this season
unreal onyx
whats dinar
Token to buy gear you want
Was called dinar when it was first used in SL S4
tender cairn
is it diff from bullion
tender cairn
ah
chrome plover
now it's called antique bronze bullion
tender cairn
we only get 1 per week rite
chrome plover
yeah
tender cairn
shame
unreal onyx
Where do we get it?
unreal onyx
I got raid today
tender cairn
Where do we get it?
dropped from a boss in lfr for me
unreal onyx
Ahhh ok ez
chrome plover
and they are on awakened track 1/12
rather than hero/myth etc
(the gear you buy)
unreal onyx
Although I think I like the more rewarding feel of the SL dinar system more
tender cairn
so it goes up to max ilvl?
unreal onyx
But now the new one comes in handy for me
south kayak
tender cairn
looking fire
south kayak
I never got this axe in s1
tender cairn
literally
chrome plover
so it goes up to max ilvl?
yeah awakened 12/12 is the same as myth 4/4
unreal onyx
I only got the hc and myth version
tender cairn
yeah awakened 12/12 is the same as myth 4/4
wicked
gon get ashcandy then
after all these years
unreal onyx
I thought they would recolor the tier for s4
clever path
Guys any new player wow discord that I can join?
unreal onyx
Is it not a diff color?
south kayak
I thought they would recolor the tier for s4
chrome plover
yeah it's free ashkandi or icon
tender cairn
what icon
unreal onyx
6 dinars max, no?
Whispering incarnate icon
I assume
Whats the difference between icon and oce? The stat amount ?
tiny swift
so do we change taalents or wait till 4 set then equip the gear and change talents ?
tender cairn
thought augury was all the big talk
chrome plover
idk if icon got nerfed but on ptr it gave a shitload of stats
chrome plover
ah ok
unreal onyx
Augury + signet brand for ST?
south kayak
south kayak
not leggo?
tender cairn
im not crafting it
unreal onyx
But only for pure ST
chrome plover
I got lego last week :xdd
chrome plover
it cost me under 200k
icy topaz
Just in time
chrome plover
but because those mats are used for enchanting/crafting in general
unreal onyx
Leggo doesn’t need mats to upgrade, right?
chrome plover
idk if they can really go down that much
chrome plover
Leggo doesn’t need mats to upgrade, right?
yes
tender cairn
it cost me under 200k
still too much 😡
chrome plover
as in yes it does
unreal onyx
Im broke rn, only 250k
chrome plover
no no by mats i mean crests/flightstone
tardy lark
axe does ye
chrome plover
https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-...
not misinformation just miscommunication
south kayak
true
tardy lark
innit
chrome plover
u change it into 1/12 awakened with a dinar? or maybe like 4/12
unreal onyx
Naszuro upgrade gives the serverwide announcement too?
tender cairn
altho tbf I dont think I need to worry about being cheap, not like it will drop anyway
oblique trail
That's the craft
tender cairn
south kayak
Naszuro upgrade gives the serverwide announcement too?
I haven't seen it
oblique trail
That's because people crafted it
chrome plover
people are getting it now yeah
unreal onyx
Can you buy it if you didn’t have it before?
Or buy the quest item that makes you craft it
unreal onyx
So you gotta have rng to get it first
Or is naszuro also „safe“ with blp
I remember it being ass for some evokers
chrome plover
it's kind of insane if new evokers/2h users have to build blp from scratch this patch
but i think that is the case
oblique trail
Nothing has been mentioned that this'd be the case
unreal onyx
Nothing has been mentioned overall
If a new player kills fyrakk in 2 weeks and gets lego
south kayak
Benzai
unreal onyx
Is it awakened track?
oblique trail
That'd give an unfair advantage to those who get it late
south kayak
TW is personal loot, right?
oblique trail
yes
oblique trail
no
south kayak
I wanna get this
tender cairn
get it on warr
chrome plover
That'd give an unfair advantage to those who get it late
imo it’s an unfair advantage that so many people start the season with a legendary
south kayak
imo it’s an unfair advantage that so many people start the season with a legenda...
skill issue
chrome plover
and anyone swapping char or returning in s4 gets owned
oblique trail
How so?
tardy lark
imo it’s an unfair advantage that so many people start the season with a legenda...
im cherishing this week where i get to do damage without it
tardy lark
back to leggo active next week
south kayak
I'm going in black temple
chrome plover
but they should get it faster in the season after, the game should encourage people to come back in a new season and try specs
tardy lark
our ret always complains about judgement travel time on bosses lol
chrome plover
every new season puts everyone on a reasonably level playing field and makes it comfy to return to the game
but this season just play non-Lego spec if you wanna come back ig
idk it’s icky to me even though I have lego
oblique trail
I can't cata my gloves
oblique trail
every new season puts everyone on a reasonably level playing field and makes it ...
Should people who palyed last season be rolled tho?
Since they have to spend 2 bullions to upgrade
tardy lark
BT is way easier than I expected
did you expect a queueable lfr experience to be hard
chrome plover
Should people who palyed last season be rolled tho?
well no just make the craft require 2 bullions
tender cairn
imo it’s an unfair advantage that so many people start the season with a legenda...
agree, remove everyones leg
chrome plover
im not saying that either
south kayak
huh
chrome plover
i just dont think it should be 12 weeks blp for returning players in season 4
oblique trail
I personally think it's fine that people who played last season have that advantage, as anyone normally would from playing a previous season going into the next in some capacity
jolly mist
chrome plover
we just agree to disagree there then because I think it's too significant
brave cairn
idk it’s icky to me even though I have lego
Are you on about people having Leggo having advantage?
Bruh that shit was 200k gold if people could just buy it with 2 bullions I'd be asking for refunds
south kayak
we just agree to disagree there then because I think it's too significant
I don't see how that's different than people having mythic gear from s3 and being stronger than those who didn't play in s3
going into s4
willow cradle
Are you on about people having Leggo having advantage?
Why didnt you play last season?
chrome plover
Bruh that shit was 200k gold if people could just buy it with 2 bullions I'd be ...
I didnt say you should buy it with 2 bullions?
south kayak
I don't think it's inherently bad
brave cairn
??? I did. I got the axe. It's why I'm happy they're not just handing it out to any chump who returns for 2 weeks in s4
Grind for it like everyone else did on HC fyrakk every week
chrome plover
yeah but everyone grinded for it at the same time
I never said they should be handed an axe
I just think the drop for the quest item shouldnt take 12 weeks in a season where half the playerbase already have it
brave cairn
People will still be grinding it, I can guarantee you. Awakened fyrakk in 2 weeks will just be all plate groups
Like it was in s3
chrome plover
because I imagine that's super off putting for rerollers and returning players
ofc they will im not doubting that
brave cairn
Returning players will have to suck it up. Too bad they didn't play previous season. Players who did should naturally have advantage
fading sky
i do agree, but also understand why they think it feels bad 😄
south kayak
Yeah, that's why legendaries shouldn't exist
young swan
People will still be grinding it, I can guarantee you. Awakened fyrakk in 2 week...
they can also just do heroic amirdrassil
south kayak
young swan
dont need awakened
brave cairn
Oh yeah you can run it now as well
brave cairn
Yeah, that's why legendaries shouldn't exist
Legendaries are just epics with extra steps. I'd argue that Blizz item design has been shit where they've been putting legendary tier weapons as normal drops for quite some time
Look at Fish mace from Jailer for example, spear from S2 or Jaithys
Shadowlands was loaded with weapons that had op Legendary-tier effects but didn't have an orange name and a 200-300k gold investment to get them
south kayak
Fish?
brave cairn
Jailer 2h mace, I forget the name
south kayak
Gavel
brave cairn
Raszageth bow as well was OP as fuck
south kayak
Yeah, it was
I think they should st op with special weapons ngl
cba farming special weapons in m+
took me a while to get dagger from dawn on rogue
last season
chrome plover
but you still think people should farm an old boss for 12 weeks for a legendary
zz
south kayak
I don't
brave cairn
I just don't think shit should be handed out to return players at the expense of people who spend time effort (and gold) grinding it out
willow cradle
but you still think people should farm an old boss for 12 weeks for a legendary
You get to do it on easy mode with next season ilvl gear???
chrome plover
I just don't think shit should be handed out to return players at the expense of...
I never once said they should get it for free
willow cradle
Not that it was hard at current ilvl tbh
chrome plover
I just said the item that starts the quest should drop way earlier
willow cradle
The drop chance was giga buffed already dude
south kayak
I understand where chawie is coming from
rose dagger
Just play a non legendary class
chrome plover
because if it's like 10, 20, 40, then fine.
south kayak
Just play a non legendary class
That's such a shitty fix lmao
brave cairn
There is also this feel that if you play a plate class you MUST have axe
south kayak
Trinkets used to be so rare, there's literally only one trinket in the entier BT raid for casters and it's on the last boss
chrome plover
I just think people should be able to comfortably return to the game or reroll without being told "yeah you'll just be worse than anyone who played last season for 2 months"
tender cairn
where is my s2 advantages at
chrome plover
last season gear is never usually relevant for more than a week or two
tender cairn
😡
chrome plover
i just think that's stinky idk
brave cairn
I don't see anything wrong with them rewarding players who stick around instead of returners who didn't touch the game for 3 years
tender cairn
That's such a shitty fix lmao
there's a better fix
south kayak
chawie
south kayak
I'm excited to play shadow priest with s2 set
willow cradle
I think you're making a bigger deal out of this then it has to be tbh, It's extra damage yeah but you don't need it to clear any of the mythic raids
brave cairn
Itd be shit if they gave you NO WAY of ever acquiring the axe but you can go at Fyrakk hc now and start
chrome plover
that would also be shit yes
tender cairn
got a hot take
opal monolith
does fyralath go off hand temporarily if u get a higher ilvl wep
brave cairn
If anything it's easier than s2 because gear progression and people are still farming it but with higher ilvl
opal monolith
does it equally apply stacks in offh and
south kayak
does fyralath go off hand temporarily if u get a higher ilvl wep
yes
tender cairn
they should make legs actually rare
willow cradle
does fyralath go off hand temporarily if u get a higher ilvl wep
si
brave cairn
does it equally apply stacks in offh and
Yes
chrome plover
does fyralath go off hand temporarily if u get a higher ilvl wep
yeah
opal monolith
alright nice
south kayak
they should make legs *actually* rare
That doesn't really work with the way the game is
That would be fine in classic in 2004
chrome plover
If anything it's easier than s2 because gear progression and people are still fa...
my issue is not with it being "hard" to get
south kayak
not anymore
tender cairn
That doesn't really work with the way the game is
then remove em 
chrome plover
it's the 2-3 month handicap
south kayak
then remove em <a:chatting:1036769769543704576>
I'm not gonna go against that
Legendaires only add pain and suffering
brave cairn
You had chance to get it 1st week if you're lucky. I saw people get it right after Mythic Fyrakk was killed
south kayak
fuck em
tender cairn
the way they work rn is that u still gotta work for them, but u also feel like they're mandatory
which is just ass
south kayak
they shouldn't feel mandatory, legendaires should be utility imo
opal monolith
if legendaries were like in classic in a modern seasonal game it would be fking horrendous
south kayak
@tender cairn
tender cairn
it should either be legion level or actual privilege
tender cairn
or that ig
south kayak
like mannoroth's from legion
it's not giving you damage but it's useful in some ways
or maybe it gives you as pecific talent like in legion
tender cairn
if legendaries were like in classic in a modern seasonal game it would be fking ...
actually
brave cairn
Fyralath was also dog on release. It had to get multiple buffs to be good xddd
tender cairn
make it a limited item
south kayak
for example, you equip a legendary that auto picks shockwave
tender cairn
south kayak
@chrome plover what do you think of utility legendaries, not damage
tender cairn
imagine if it would be like, say 1-10 legs per realm
willow cradle
it's the 2-3 month handicap
That handicapped existed for players in season 3 also dude, I dunno what to tell you, the game never suddenly gave out gear from the last season for free, it's the same for the leggo.
chrome plover
That handicapped existed for players in season 3 also dude, I dunno what to tell...
i mean it literally does, you replace all of last seasons gear in 1-2 weeks
south kayak
can't come soon enough
chrome plover
what are u talking about
chrome plover
i have the legendary
south kayak
oh okay
willow cradle
i mean it literally does, you replace all of last seasons gear in 1-2 weeks
When has the game handed you a prior tiers loot on a silver platter for free exactly?
chrome plover
are u dense
tender cairn
he's a warrior
south kayak
are u dense
tender cairn
can u be a warrior w/o bein a lil dense
chrome plover
I literally never said anything about people being handed anything on a silver platter
tender cairn
les be real
chrome plover
I just said it shouldnt take 3 fucking months to get in a season where half the players already have it
willow cradle
I literally never said anything about people being handed anything on a silver p...
"the game never suddenly gave out gear from the last season for free, it's the same for the leggo." "i mean it literally does"
Do you understand what literally means?
tender cairn
willow cradle
how bout making out instead?
tender cairn
or make out
chrome plover
if u play for 2 weeks you replace all of last seasons gear for free
willow cradle
or make out
😉
willow cradle
if u play for 2 weeks you replace all of last seasons gear for free
Yes, but that is not gear from the prior tier, that's the big difference.
slim pollen
if u play for 2 weeks you replace all of last seasons gear for free
So 2 weeks = free
I don't know, 2-3 months (worst case scenario) doesn't sound expensive if 2 weeks is free 😋
chrome plover
I want people to come back to the game and play it again :( and be on an even playing field with me :(
more people playing my spec = game gooder
tardy lark
im fairly certain warrior is one of the most popular classes
chrome plover
So 2 weeks = free
I don't know, 2-3 months (worst case scenario) doesn't sound e...
it would definitely put me off playing warrior if I hadnt played last season
tardy lark
fury has sucked ass a lot and still has mega representation everywhere
chrome plover
yeah absolutely
chrome plover
and it probably wont be noticeable at all, but I just think it's bad for the game
south kayak
fury has sucked ass a lot and still has mega representation everywhere
Which makes me wonder why blizzard won't treat it better
chrome plover
I wouldnt feel hard done by if someone started playing fury this tier and got the legendary quest item in 2 or 3 resets
and they would feel great im sure
so it's a net positive imo
tardy lark
Which makes me wonder why blizzard won't treat it better
the 2 hero classes, mage and warlock exists 🤷♀️
south kayak
the 2 hero classes, mage and warlock exists 🤷♀️
lets see what tw cache has for me
slim pollen
it would definitely put me off playing warrior if I hadnt played last season
While i agree 3 months is a bit much, your looking at this as someone who did play the previous season tho.
While lego is "stil relevant" so are all the raid this season.
The legendary is still current.
A month- month and a half (and remember, this is worst case, can stil be lucky) sounds fine to me
chrome plover
yeah sure make it guaranteed after 5-6 weeks that's already WAY better
especially with bullions existing you can even get super rare trinkets way earlier than previously
just feels bad that this one item is so far away for those people
chrome plover
lets see what tw cache has for me
what was s2 spriest set again
is that when i played spriest?
brave cairn
I dunno, at least people have access to a way to get it. What about all the FOMO rewards from previous seasons and expansions?
Old elite sets, aotc mounts etc
chrome plover
I think it's very different when it's directly linked to performance
empty mirage
this shits painful
tender cairn
did u turn ur monitor on?
south kayak
what was s2 spriest set again
the good one
tender cairn
south kayak
brave cairn
How is that linked to performance tho? You could just buy a boost and get them way easier and faster than nowadays
empty mirage
fury ASS now
brave cairn
You can't argue performance when boosts exist
oblique trail
If you're sandbagging gj
empty mirage
bro ive been playing fury for years now, never been that low before
chrome plover
chrome plover
How is that linked to performance tho? You could just buy a boost and get them w...
what?
chrome plover
how is the bis weapon linked to performance?
tender cairn
chrome plover
it makes you do more damage that's how
tardy lark
Legion fury doesnt really translate to DF fury though, so the "i've played x for years" has basically no meaning
chrome plover
tbf I got GAPPED by a warlock last night
vernal night
seas 3 fury was best furry imo
chrome plover
but every other key im owning
vernal night
fury
covert blaze
this shits painful
With those numbers, you are not playing properly
chrome plover
I'm excited for anger management in keys again
empty mirage
doing the exact same thing i did a week ago lmao
tardy lark
I mean if you feel like you played well, theres nothing we can tell you lol
covert blaze
doing the exact same thing i did a week ago lmao
guess you were playing poorly last week too
tender cairn
ouch
tardy lark
guess you were playing poorly last week too
empty mirage
last week that number was doubled lmao
vernal night
guess you were playing poorly last week too
lmfao truth
south kayak
guess you were playing poorly last week too
tardy lark
last week that number was doubled lmao
mate nothing magically changed
tender cairn
tbf out of context it could be many things
south kayak
mate nothing magically changed
Fury was taken out in the dark alley and shot in the back
Don't you remember
tardy lark
arms supremacy
covert blaze
Wonder if he's playing S4 build with S3 tier
tardy lark
then something has obviously changed
vernal night
probably
chrome plover
no im ngl i looked at slayer tree and nothing else
and a bit of mistweaver stuff actually with my gf
tardy lark
i havent bothered much with any TWW stuff before i actually get alpha/beta
chrome plover
yeah that's my mindset too but I havent even preordered yet
tardy lark
a couple of the guys in guild got alpha, so chances are there
chrome plover
I do like ww
tender cairn
but is it a good rework
tardy lark
hard to form real opinions on things i have no way to try out
tender cairn
wicked
chrome plover
I'll look at stuff eventually but low hype atm
summer quail
no im ngl i looked at slayer tree and nothing else
Do not look at the monk rework. Makes me sad for warrior
tender cairn
I might whip out my panda
chrome plover
Do not look at the monk rework. Makes me sad for warrior
idk I enjoy alts and have rerolled before, it'll make me happy if anything
teal coral
also feel like i do a lot less in keys now as well compared to last week 😦
summer quail
I want what monk got for warrior
tardy lark
also feel like i do a lot less in keys now as well compared to last week 😦
"new" dungeons, tanks pulling slow and learnign what kills them and so on
teal coral
i guess
covert blaze
tardy lark
i dread pushing score this season
chrome plover
I didnt do keys since december so I dont have that feeling
teal coral
had a mage in group (priest+aug as well) and my damage wasnt near mage tho 😄
covert blaze
New for my pug tank fucking up the enrage boss in uldaman +8
summer quail
had a mage in group (priest+aug as well) and my damage wasnt near mage tho 😄
Wow a good mage, the lucky 1%
teal coral
or a very bad warrior 
summer quail
I swear mages cannot play the game in m+
vernal night
same
my best friend a mage and im like what chare you going on and hes like mage and i log off
south kayak
Mage is hard to perform on and bad when stuff dies fast
not frost
but for fire yeah
but most people play fire even tho it's dogshit in lower keys
🤷♂️
even tho they'd be better off playing frost 99% of the time
south kayak
skill issue
covert blaze
yes
teal coral
was a frost mage i grouped with
teal coral
he changed to fire one dung and lost 100k dps
south kayak
yep
and fire is a bit more "complex" to play than frost
not really but if you don't know how to play fire, you're gonna be way worse off
covert blaze
you need to be good at the game to perform on fire
and you need big enough pulls around combust
teal coral
haha
primal plover
any big boi M+'ers know if arms or fury for high keys for this season? i feel like arms gotta shot but dont want to start commiting bullions to arms stuff if fury still is ideal
unreal crane
whats the objectively easiest key to do 8's for the mythic vault? (most likely wont do mythic raiding this season)
dungeon*
hardy cargo
right now undergeared id play fury damage shouldnt be an issue and some things hit kinda hard
but really both are fine
chrome plover
is +8 myth track vault?
hardy cargo
ye
chrome plover
ty
sour temple
How many aspects do i need to fully upgrade fyralath next week?
south kayak
you got weeks
flat river
was top dps though
south kayak
and it's pretty much easy to get it
south kayak
is what it is
naive swallow
what key levels to complete on average to get 2k io in s4?
teal coral
3-5?
tame yarrow
Is there an omnitoken from AOTC?
south kayak
Is there an omnitoken from AOTC?
I don't know, since we already got AOTC
maybe it shows up when u kill hc again
eranog fight is really good for fury with t3
s3 tier
slim pollen
How many aspects do i need to fully upgrade fyralath next week?
My plan is to not use any crests until i have bought the legendary upgrade next week.
If lucky, you might even get a weapon in the vault (or elsewere) that could save you some crest upgrades on the lego
sour temple
My plan is to not use any crests until i have bought the legendary upgrade next ...
I have mythic weapon from 2nd boss so i think i can full send upgrades on that right?
slim pollen
Yeh that sounds like a plan to me 😄
teal coral
first raid tonight, how is the tuning?
south kayak
easy
teal coral
nice
polar needle
Can you just buy the Lego now if you haven’t got it yet ?
unreal onyx
Don’t think so
polar needle
Ok wasn’t sure if you got the team upgrade from the store if it would just start the quest
fading sky
Wow a good mage, the lucky 1%
dude ... u meant 0.1 % r ?
fading sky
I have mythic weapon from 2nd boss so i think i can full send upgrades on that r...
i think u can send any 2h r? any upgrade leggo for free next week
btw has it been fixxed so we dont get 2 bullions anymore ?
only liquid gettin ?
chrome plover
should be 1 bullion per week
south kayak
Yes
random raptor
Whats our ideal 4 pieces for 4pc this tier
teal coral
bullion sounds like something you make food with
oblique trail
Because you do
teal coral
👍
south kayak
they cookeed
oblique trail
Whats our ideal 4 pieces for 4pc this tier
Legs least desired iirc for Fury, but it really doesn't matter at this stage