is there a graphic with all bis geared specs already?
#fury
quiet geyser
Ya. Arms and devastation are quite dumpstering everything
olive wraith
I think I saw one floating around on
ancient quiver
Arms dev is like 15k above number 3 and that's 10k above the rest
olive wraith
That’s just st right
ancient quiver
Yes
alpine adder
fyralath in main hand if i have another weapon thats higher ilvl?
olive wraith
Higher ilvl mh
left perch
^
unreal crane
rets do some crazy dmg in all keys ive done
south kayak
yeah rets are nuts
south kayak
yeah cba with another axe
paper ivy
in this season we cast avatar before recklessness?
south kayak
doesn't matter
quiet geyser
in this season we cast avatar before recklessness?
Thats been fixed
paper ivy
how much dps do i loost if i macro ravager @player
and kinda cast everything before going into pack
modest condor
if you @player and then cast it before you charge you're losing all the ravager damage
kind bolt
the season 2 tier really needed a blue variant now im depresso
warm wren
do we have new sims on which race is the best for fury?
quiet geyser
the season 2 tier really needed a blue variant now im depresso
I'll take a buff over a color change 
terse ether
do we have new sims on which race is the best for fury?
Hooman
fiery jetty
i have a question
if u do Neltharion
u get the gear of S4 ???
because how this ppl get the rare trinckets of neltharion???
silent burrow
weekly box
sinful spoke
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/26yDpbCnNL3jcoCC4WsGXY is my sim wrong or what?
why is it simming lower than the current set
wallahi are we cooked
south kayak
Lmao
frank dawn
I don't think it's a secret the season 2 tier and build is dog shit single target
but don't worry we'll surely get buffed and tuned, that's what the season 2 voters told me
south kayak
wallahi are we cooked
correct use of wallahi
brittle crow
arms stocks going up
sinful spoke
I don't think it's a secret the season 2 tier and build is dog shit single targe...
surely its not this bad
fiery jetty
weekly box
weekly???
sinful spoke
surely im just simming it wrong
south kayak
seimming
sinful spoke
nah but like s2 voters straight up griefed us if its reallyt his bad
delicate burrow
will arms be better for keys as well?
south kayak
fury is actually in the middlle of all st sims
so it's not that bad
in terms of st
quiet geyser
fury is actually in the middlle of all st sims
I wouldnt say mid
Its like.. very low mid
south kayak
still mid
south kayak
there's plenty worse specs and specs thatr are way overtuned
so blizzard needs to do something about it
🤷♂️
lean wasp
guess its arms season
modest condor
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/26yDpbCnNL3jcoCC4WsGXY is my sim wrong or...
im confused about what these sims are supposed to show
you're simming s3 tier with s4 build?
fiery jetty
weekly box
which one of the weekly box could give u a items from others raid?
young swan
there's plenty worse specs and specs thatr are way overtuned
"plenty" theres like 5
quiet geyser
Fury could use like a flat 5% aura
south kayak
more like 15%
quiet geyser
5% would put it to like 404-405k which is reasonable
modest condor
more like 15%
15% would put us like 20k ahead of arms which is already overtuned af
frank dawn
send it
quiet geyser
OR.. make our tier do 50% extra bt damage per stack instead of 30
That might be fun
wary fjord
Yes
indigo quarry
you made your bed not voting the right tier set
wary fjord
I see no issue with both specs being broken
sinful spoke
im confused about what these sims are supposed to show
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vttsg6XfxUKoFpSP5ReEGM s3 set
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jtKi9uDVFkNdWYeFKtKjh9 s2 set
im just complaining bro dont mind it too much
modest condor
i mean we knew that s2 is weaker on st than s3, and the "buff" they did to the crit chance per stack actually made it worse
quiet geyser
let us have this moment as Arms
Arms being stronger is great. Simming over 10% stronger is too much though 😦
sinful spoke
but did we know it was this bad? like its almost a damage loss to swap to that tierset no?
modest condor
no we didnt
modest condor
but we have 10-15% more crit than we had in s2, and the increased crit per stack
south kayak
This is bad
modest condor
so it ended up being a lot weaker
modest condor
it would be a start
chilly fractal
I think they should just scrap it and give us S3 set bonus back
modest condor
I think they should just scrap it and give us S3 set bonus back
then i would just unsub until mop remix
wary fjord
Just make it 100% crit after every rampage 
quiet geyser
So you'll always send with 4 stacks?
modest condor
cba doing another season with s3
median marsh
is there a nice WA for s4 keys?
chilly fractal
It’s in less than a month anyway
south kayak
wispy thistle
found the imposter
indigo quarry
there was only 1 option
vote S1 tier set
it was so bad they had to do something drastic about it
young swan
edgy widget
then i would just unsub until mop remix
not doing this anyway?
south kayak
did u get s4 4p yet
modest condor
no
south kayak
ok
rotund steppe
then i would just unsub until mop remix
been on the same train for a while
south kayak
I'm not really excited for raiding atm
just m+
Remix is gonna be pog
I wonder if u can make guilds in remix
edgy widget
you can, or you can even just stay in your current one
south kayak
oh nice
south kayak
you can, or you can even just stay in your current one
weird question, what's your favorite df dungeon?
edgy widget
remix isn't on a part of the game like plunderstorm
edgy widget
weird question, what's your favorite df dungeon?
the logout screen
south kayak
the logout screen
DF dungeons aint it tbh
they have a lot of stuff going on
having to move all the time, anti melee
it'ss just not fun
I hope the TWW dungeons aren't as bad but as long as WA's and addons exist, they're going to want to make them harder
edgy widget
idk Academy is decent, Ruby Life Pools is ok, most of the others just feel too long
south kayak
Did you play the TWW dungeons?
edgy widget
my issue with them isn't the difficulty, some of them just feel like they take forever
young swan
uldaman
edgy widget
like Halls would be a nice dungeon if it were half as long
quiet geyser
Vault is the most unenjoyable
edgy widget
Yeah Vault is a slog
quiet geyser
Its long, and very repetitive
young swan
praying to god they bring the best vault back for tww
south kayak
wardens?
warm crag
vault season vs halls season
young swan
my body yearns for the vaults
bold flicker
-dont like vault because it is too long
-wants VoTW back
r.i.p. 😄
young swan
vault of the wardens is short
south kayak
votw is very short lmao
young swan
u can get that shit done in like 15 min
bold flicker
if i remember correctly, that was one of the longest ones, no?
quiet geyser
bfa was the beginning of bullshit amount of mechanics in a dungeon
Bfa as an expansion sucked, but the dungeons were actually decent
dapper goblet
votw best dungeon ever created in the history of the video game known as world of warcraft activision blizzard
delicate burrow
what settings do you guys generally use to sim for M+?
hardy shuttle
Usually just go off st Sims. But with aoe trinkets.
amber arch
One of my guildies just got a hero track augury from timewalking hahah
silk gate
Did they update the spell reflect wa?
neon ingot
is the new ( old 4p) worse than previous season ?
sleek nexus
is the new ( old 4p) worse than previous season ?
do believe so, most people that voted for the season 2 set did so because they pref the playstyle for M+
wicked turret
Do I replace my season 3 tier set when i get season 4 2 pc or 4 pc.
sleek nexus
Do I replace my season 3 tier set when i get season 4 2 pc or 4 pc.
4p 30+ ilvl
wicked turret
TY
sick viper
do believe so, most people that voted for the season 2 set did so because they p...
nah they voted on it to get us to play arms
light stump
can we switch to t2 talents right away
or are we sticking with the t3 talents until we get the new tier set
sleek nexus
nah they voted on it to get us to play arms
true
sleek nexus
or are we sticking with the t3 talents until we get the new tier set
you stick with the t3 talents until you get the season 4 set
hallow sphinx
young swan
is the new ( old 4p) worse than previous season ?
yes
light stump
you stick with the t3 talents until you get the season 4 set
2 pc enough or wait till 4?
sleek nexus
2 pc enough or wait till 4?
wait until 4
young swan
wait till 4
analog rivet
so what is going on with anvil sims? it sims stronger than signet for me,...
light stump
gross 😉
young swan
so what is going on with anvil sims? it sims stronger than signet for me,...
is the anvil higher ilvl?
analog rivet
same
young swan
show sim
young swan
signet also goes to 528
so
they should sim about the same, only difference being signet can highroll harder
analog rivet
let me resim that one then
but yeah from the looks anvil seems to beat augury too,... I wonder if that is a stable result on higehr ger
gear
that's anvil
very naive sim from current gear
and there is augury and signet
young swan
odd
young swan
think looking at droptimizer this early is prob a bit troll
analog rivet
yeah it's probably better to use a proper late tier character profile
young swan
pretty good season for actually just chasing bis cause anyone can get it if they clear the raid
analog rivet
thus I say naive sim
sullen dove
(Ignore how first sim anvil replaces augury as a stronger st trinket and in second sim brand is only increasing in ilvl)
sullen dove
yea it just replaces the worse trinket of the two
augury is generally always worse than csb on st, so it’s 16k higher to not have an augury
timber locust
hey guys is the new 2p over our old 4p?
sullen dove
where higher ilvl brand is just 14k cause you still have the augury
sullen dove
hey guys is the new 2p over our old 4p?
na
timber locust
but i haaaaaaaaaate this havoc dh rotation
sullen dove
huh
young swan
2pc2pc doesnt fix that
timber locust
yes bro if i want to play with 1 button like havoc i would have played havoc
sullen dove
augury is generally always worse than csb on st, so it’s 16k higher to not have ...
but to actually compare the two you’d have to force anvil to replace signet brand in the first sim
sullen dove
yes bro if i want to play with 1 button like havoc i would have played havoc
It’s 1 button in both tier sets
what u on about
sullen dove
olive wraith
i can atleast pretend i have 21
How?
clever path
quick question: do we still keep s3 gear untill we can get the new tier sets? or do wee keep upgrading it with m+ gear??
marble pilot
I dropped my 4 set cause I gained about 40 ilvls to do so. But I was only 460 average before hand. Not a mythic raider. I imagine if you are geared well you dont swap till at least 2 piece?
flat river
if i get a weapon higher ilvl than leggo
do i swap it to mainhand
and make leggo offhand?
olive wraith
Higher ilvl mh
warm crag
yes
flat river
ok
stuck pewter
is it a bug that if you have leggo in offhand it dosent work?
warm crag
no?
stuck pewter
use it on a fight and it went on cd but no dmg
warm crag
your target mightve died l + bozo
flat river
sinful pewter
Hey boyz, just a quick question, I didn't dropped the legendary 2h weapon last season. I saw that there is a vendor in Valdrakken that sells the upgrade to make it 502. My question is how am I supposed to drop the weapon ? By doing Fyrakk every week ? On every difficulty ? Thanks for help 🙏
sullen dove
use it on a fight and it went on cd but no dmg
it also won’t work if u charge and instantly cast leggo
u have to wait to hit the boss
sullen dove
Hey boyz, just a quick question, I didn't dropped the legendary 2h weapon last s...
Keep doing it on heroic for best chance basically yeah every week
marble pilot
It should be easier to do cause ilvl went up...but also harder to do cause no one but melee that doesnt have it wants to do it.
I did it on lfr this week lol
I guess might be some mount hunters?
olive wraith
Lfr doesn’t increase the drop chance by that much afaik
sullen dove
i mean there prolly would be groups for it on heroic on Tuesday/wednesday
there’s not suddenly gonna be zero groups the entire season but a bit less probably
just keep lookin every couple of minutes while you’re doin other things if u want ig
warm crag
3 fyrakk hc groups up rn
marble pilot
I wonder if awakened will have a higher drop chance?
warm crag
(eu) (center of the universe)
sinful pewter
Keep doing it on heroic for best chance basically yeah every week
Ok so not useful doing it on HM + on NM every week ? one down is enough ?
sullen dove
(eu) (center of the universe)
(U mean Africa) (were humanity originated from)
warm crag
africa top 10 continents
sullen dove
Ok so not useful doing it on HM + on NM every week ? one down is enough ?
Heroic first consumes your chances from lower difficulties so only heroic is necessary
flat river
africa top 10 continents
real
warm crag
#2 will shock you
flat river
LMAO
sullen dove
Australia
sinful pewter
Thanks a lot boyz
sullen dove
peak pivot
should we break s3 4set immediately? or wait until we have a full s4 set?
hasty path
i get 5000 ping when i open WoW
Skill issue
fleet sorrel
olive wraith
should we break s3 4set immediately? or wait until we have a full s4 set?
Wait or switch to arms
lapis lion
Hold on wtf
Is there really no ksh appearance reward this season?
rewards stop at ksm besides portals?
warm crag
outrageous
young swan
demonpalx
analog rivet
is weird
warm crag
doubt the full stat trained one is better than any of the raid trinkets
just sim it or
edgy widget
i assume ruby whelp shell is dogshit
I got one, but I have no desire to spend the time required to build it up 
analog rivet
I got one, but I have no desire to spend the time required to build it up <:Doge...
^^
rigid stirrup
okay dumb question but are we bloodthirsting based on WA or on x amount of stacks
feral ivy
does this proc fire dmg for the rings from first raid the seals
wary fjord
Yes
feral ivy
cool tyty
olive wraith
All shadowflame dmg will
edgy widget
does this proc fire dmg for the rings from first raid the seals
yes, but so does Fyr'alath and the helm enchant, so it's not really necessary
wary fjord
Rings are cracked this season
feral ivy
yes, but so does Fyr'alath and the helm enchant, so it's not really necessary
ahh ok ok tyty
so then is this BIS?
or we should go for
high basin
feral ivy
oh didnt see that
wary fjord
Lol
slim coral
<@137623498351837184>
wary fjord
Nice
feral ivy
what ilvl was it?
feral ivy
and u cna scale it now?
hardy fog
yeah just need a few flight stones
curious if it out sims my heroic wep. Ill have to run a few sims on it
wary fjord
Ass can do some giga procs
tepid lily
we are with the season 2 tier
edgy widget
So interesting development. I got a Asskandi from the timewalking daily
pretty lucky! It's a good offhand, even at a lower item level
tepid lily
is so b ad
summer quail
Suffer, EU chose this for fury
and i would choose it again
wary fjord
Yeah
bitter palm
unless they giga buffed s3 tierset which is unlikely
wary fjord
Make it cleave
hardy fog
We're estimating that arms will be top this patch?
wary fjord
wary fjord
Only buff it would need to be absolutely busted
bitter palm
deva>arms>>>
agile helm
is there a cheat sheet or smth where i can see the gain s4 set compared to s3 set?
bitter palm
is there a cheat sheet or smth where i can see the gain s4 set compared to s3 se...
very big
its infinitely stronger
wary fjord
It's funny, cause deva does all it's damage early in a fight, and arms does a ton of it's damage late into the fight
Perfect combo
oblique trail
is there a cheat sheet or smth where i can see the gain s4 set compared to s3 se...
You'll lose ST damage in a direct comparison between the sets
But you'll still overall gain damage by using S4 at higher ilvls, and it's recommended to swap whenever you get 4p
neon ingot
so bascily i have 4p, but i feel worse unless there are adds
wary fjord
Yes
charred panther
st, go arms sadly
neon ingot
3 hero pieces and one champion
charred panther
arms went season 2 as well eh?
wary fjord
Arms claps
oblique trail
S1
wary fjord
No
young swan
s1
wary fjord
S1
neon ingot
the stat difference is massive, if i'm not mistaking
charred panther
Ahh, yes yes. Def st arms prob
random raptor
whats our first craft looking to be
agile helm
we dont want pants actually am i right? for neither arms or fury
edgy widget
pants are the best offpiece, but at this stage in the Season, you should just collect whatever 4 pieces of tier you can and worry about minmaxing offpieces later
young swan
whats our first craft looking to be
i just spent my first spark on wrists but didnt use any crests
sullen cloak
does raidbots not do gear compare anymore?
oblique trail
It's deprecated
The function is in top gear now
It allows you to do a direct gear comparison between items you have and those you don't, in a much easier and streamlined fashion
sullen cloak
ok cool thank you
random raptor
i just spent my first spark on wrists but didnt use any crests
ty
proper veldt
aoe overall isnt bis for m+
olive wraith
Don’t go for boon
covert blaze
aoe overall isnt bis for m+
i like your pfp
olive wraith
It probably sims super high but you’re rooted for 10 seconds which is a lifetime
desert cloud
It probably sims super high but you’re rooted for 10 seconds which is a lifetime
i just got it in raid
i ain't buying that
shoould we upgrade lego first ?
or go for ass candy
covert blaze
oblique trail
Of course you upgrade lego first
sinful spoke
dont buy asscandy
random raptor
is timewalking loot fixed
olive wraith
Yes
random raptor
sweet ty
rotund ginkgo
I got one, but I have no desire to spend the time required to build it up <:Doge...
real and true
6 days for a trinket
spam academy problem solved
amber arch
whats the best way to train this thing?
gilded pawn
Should be haste
sullen dove
<@137623498351837184>
wtf
analog rivet
whats the best way to train this thing?
ST damage was kinda nice as well in S1
clever path
Can someone post a screen of season 4 fury tree without any tier set bonuses?
I’ve returned to the game after 7 or so years
Maybe some help with rotation as well
sullen dove
if u ahve no set u just still use s4 talent set
clever path
Alright
charred panther
Good idea, get used to the buttons etc
young swan
you can drop cshb for one of the rb talents
sullen dove
theres like 2 talents u can swap yea
charred panther
I really started to enjoy season 3 after dreading it going into it
clever path
I just haven’t been getting great dps. Barely cracking 100k and 485 iLvl
charred panther
Particularly on tyran weeks when I can dust the pally that’s been out cleaving me
clever path
Dual weilding a 2h mace and 2h sword
sullen dove
weapon type doesnt matter
but if u were erunning s3 talents or something yea it is pretty bad without tier
clever path
So the s4 talent is the onslaught route not odyns fury correct?
median marsh
is there updated WA for VOTI from liquid?
i used it in s1 and i want to use it again
clever path
I been fucking up my rotation then. I’m always afraid to use avatar outside of bosses and then it’s not ready for a boss fight
charred panther
is there updated WA for VOTI from liquid?
i used it in s1 and i want to use it a...
Yes, it’s on wago
opal leaf
Who knows how many Wrym and Aspect crests we need to keep to upgrade the legendary weapon?
for next week
median marsh
Yes, it’s on wago
link?
i didnt find it
half cargo
I been fucking up my rotation then. I’m always afraid to use avatar outside of b...
This is one of the biggest traps you can fall into as a new player
charred panther
On my cell at work or I would
half cargo
The lost uses will add up big time
clever path
So just burn it on CD then
half cargo
Especially in a spec like fury which is geared more to aoe vs st
half cargo
So just burn it on CD then
Yes, but make judgment calls every now and then
Don’t send it on a pack that’s about to die, etc
charred panther
Looking for most uptime in combat for the 20 seconds
clever path
Alright thanks. I’ve got maxdps downloaded but kinda don’t know how to use it
And some of these boss fights are so movement heavy it’s been hard to adjust to staying on target
half cargo
That just comes with time and practice
serene vessel
I have no idea what maxdps is, but legit practice will help the most
clever path
I definitely been practicing. Just doing horrible dps in mythics
serene vessel
Literally pug some keys and just send it on cd at first. It'll gibe you a rough idea of when your CDs would normally be up, and then when it might be worth it to hold
clever path
🙏
That champions sword talent isn’t in season 4 right? I’m not a huge fan of that ability
serene vessel
Especially as fury now that we will be running the abberus set soon, you'll basically have them up all the time
bitter palm
That champions sword talent isn’t in season 4 right? I’m not a huge fan of that ...
what is champions sword talent
clever path
what is champions sword talent
Whatever it’s called
bitter palm
annihilator?
charred panther
That champions sword talent isn’t in season 4 right? I’m not a huge fan of that ...
Target dummies are your friend my friend
I use em a ton for new toons/builds
bitter palm
champions sword doesnt even remotely remind me of anything
half cargo
Some scenarios to watch out for: fighting a single mob/boss, and adds will spawn soon? Hold for them. Damage amp phase coming up? Hold for that. Shield coming up that you need to break? Hold for that
clever path
Champions Spear
serene vessel
Odyns spear?
bitter palm
for st u arent dropping it
serene vessel
Haven't kept up to date but with s2 set, roar was basically in line with spear for dps
clever path
Alright. Thanks everyone for the help
modest condor
well i got my helm for the rest of the season at least
balmy shore
poggie
rotund ginkgo
blazebinder's hoof any good?
charred panther
Vers losing its luster I thought?
rotund ginkgo
@modest condor UwU?
fringe vale
yo been looking through pins and cant find what are the slots where we craft embelish
modest condor
<@105847932611231744> UwU?
:D
fringe vale
is it still wrist
sullen dove
usually bracer/belt
fringe vale
and smt else?
warm crag
whats the chance to natty roll a socket anyways
fringe vale
33% prob
warm crag
this must be true
fringe vale
33% for either extra stat nos tat or socket
olive wraith
It’s either 0 or 1
fringe vale
33,3% is more realistic tho
olive wraith
Is it?
fringe vale
since u can get socket, extra stat or nothing at all
warm crag
you can also get both
fringe vale
can you?
olive wraith
So clearly it’s 25% then
fringe vale
most of the extra stat + socket ive seen at least is with bought socket
if u say it can happen then yeah its 25%
warm crag
i think we had 1 socketed and 2 tert items in raid today imma be real with you i dont think your guess is good
fringe vale
if there is a 25% chance of u getting something, you also have a 75% chance of not getting it
so in terms of odds youre most likely not getting it than getting it
rotund ginkgo
quit being math nerds and accept reality
pseudo galleon
how we holding up
warm crag
ass go next expansion
olive wraith
We holding arms up
pseudo galleon
ew arms
proper veldt
on which slots are we crafting BSL?
fringe vale
but is warrior hot stinky poop
better than ret hot stinky poop
orm any other class
(in terms of fantasy bc in terms of dmg, depression)
bro wtf is wrong with dragonbane keep siege
been waitin g here for like 30min
thing just wont start
young swan
unironically u prob missed it
fringe vale
the stupid add with the cart is here
young swan
it ends in like 2 minutes
fringe vale
its been here for like 30 min
young swan
people just rush the keep
rotund ginkgo
blazebinder's hoof 509 sims higher than a 483 might of the ocean in both ST and aoe
pog
sullen dove
it starts at the top of the hour??
every time??
and hes always just sitting there?
fringe vale
i came here top of the hour
sullen dove
37 min ago?
young swan
yeah u just missed it brother
sullen dove
young swan
just fly straight to the keep
fringe vale
yeah im not kidding l;ike there is like 40 ppl here with me
wild mica
interesting
for some reason i thought timewalking was only going to give current fated raid stuff
fringe vale
damn lucky
proper veldt
interesting
is this from the 5 timewalking dungeons quest?
rotund ginkgo
srs?
wild mica
ya
rotund ginkgo
and u can do it on top of the timewalkinge vent?
fringe vale
HUH
fringe vale
sim it
proper veldt
i dont understand , the tooltip on the quest says 493 ilvl , am i missing something? is there a diferent quest
wild mica
wait how did you get this
rotund ginkgo
yh
fringe vale
most ppl get dogshit
wild mica
my timewalking reward was champion track tho
proper veldt
and where is this timewalking event
fringe vale
thats a rare item
young swan
btw the black temple quest gives a 506 hero item
where do u pick up the quest
wild mica
oh wait yours is very rare
fringe vale
where do u pick up the quest
x2
wild mica
where do u pick up the quest
i have no idea, maybe shattrath? someone shared the kill illidan quest as soon as i joined a black temple group
summer rain
You can get a quest in shattrath to defeat illidan tw for a chest containing hero track item + a chance to loot ahes of alar/ timerreaver and some other mount in the box
Its right there at the timewalking vendor
sour tundra
guys whats the best way to craft the legendary axe i cant find a single rare mob in Emerald Dream
nocturne dragon
guys whats the best way to craft the legendary axe i cant find a single rare mob...
Yes you can find it in emerald frenzy or something and lastboss of superbloom
last lichen
yea look up emerald frenzy thing, can get a lot of elites without much searching, the event just has to be up
last lichen
theres one that keeps respawning, look it up for images/clips
silent vault
can I actually upgrade max hero track with only wyrms crest now? or is this some visual bug?
red dirge
Wait didnt know the cache is glitched
sinful spoke
too bad
brittle crow
NO
sinful spoke
yes
brittle crow
I SUFFERED SO EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD >:(
sinful spoke
nuh uh
sullen dove
I SUFFERED SO EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD >:(
thousand dollar tcg mount spender mindset
brittle crow
thousand dollar tcg mount spender mindset
no the tcg mounts being added is good because i dont have them
sullen dove
brittle crow
the tusks being added is bad because i do have them
tardy lark
based
young swan
lmfao
peak bloom
Sorry, might be a silly question.
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should we put higher lvl weapon in MH? (simming this but figured id ask)
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does putting legendary in OH affect proc dot application, or on use in any way?
young swan
Sorry, might be a silly question.
1. should we put higher lvl weapon in MH? (s...
higher ilvl always mainhand
it doesnt matter
peak bloom
higher ilvl always mainhand
it doesnt matter
thanks
feral ivy
did yall craft anything today? idk what to craft today
peak bloom
guide said wrist, cloak or boots i think
peak bloom
wrist is good because you are probably gonna have companion wrists for aoe content
so easy swap
sullen dove
i mean its even fine in raid
all purpose
what like 1k dps to have sf patch over it
peak bloom
yeah, i run companion in all content but he asked specifically double patch
fringe vale
wrist is good because you are probably gonna have companion wrists for aoe conte...
the dif between vers wrist and shadowflame is so little, that i dont even change my shadowflame wrist for m+
i have both but i always forget to swap em since tbh the diff is so minimal
peak bloom
the dif between vers wrist and shadowflame is so little, that i dont even change...
I thought shadowflame loses significantly more in aoe than vers wrist does in st
maybe thats old numbers
sullen dove
yea i mean mostly true
frozen night
meant to search for it.
just wondering why iszy is there stuck inside norzko's model unreachable
brittle crow
who tf
frozen night
brittle crow
who tf?
frozen night
icy-vein's bloodmallet graph had Storm-Eater's Boon on it for some reason
so I was curious about it, and wowhead said sold by Iszky
who is... interestingly placed
olive wraith
Don’t get boon
olive wraith
It probably sims really well afaik. It’s got some insane damage on it
But you’ll die
dense elbow
Boon is great - but, there is tons of play around it, and, anything spawns under you or goes in yer direction -rip
frozen night
at anyrate, I can't even interact with target after /tar isz
olive wraith
Yes die to buff others
olive wraith
What would you even macro to it
quiet python
I dunno just asking
young swan
Should u use axe with a macro?
theres no cool tech for fury
young swan
just a normal spell
quiet python
Ty 🙂
left perch
did skyhold blue change their hex color a little?
young swan
dont think so
slim coral
i spend years farming these on and off
brittle crow
<a:HyperRatJam:800553449292431363>
im going to lose it
brittle crow
should of just waited for them to add it for free
joker moment..
fringe vale
i spend years farming these on and off
i been farming these for years also, still havent got em, so cool nice from blizz
gatekeeping a mog in my mind is actually rlly dumb
fringe vale
same with cahllenge mode pandaria and draenor i dont understand the gatekeeping behind it, they were not hard at all, its not like getting glad or ce or 0.1% m+ rating
brittle crow
same with cahllenge mode pandaria and draenor i dont understand the gatekeeping ...
see i support them re-adding cm appearances
cuz i dont have em
i only dont support things if they dont benefit me
fringe vale
they should bring it back as a heralds of storm type achieve
do em with a twink in a specific gear ilvl
and off u go
sick viper
add all CE's and Gladiator mounts to the store
fringe vale
add all CE's and Gladiator mounts to the store
thats not what i said
ce and glad achieves are the har endgame
its fine to gatekeep that
sick viper
lolol
fringe vale
also no one is talking about store items
sick viper
stop taking what I say srsly
fringe vale
just bring em back in a form of achievement or smt that takes effort just like it took effort back in the day, that wasnt much tbh bc challenge mode was kinda rlly cheesy and ez
brittle crow
ya farming tusks took effort
it took effort to not want to die
or rather to not act on it
fringe vale
yeah but its smt that is already in the game and anyone can still get
it just takes stupid amount of farming
brittle crow
next ur gonna suggest taeshalach be made less rare too
fringe vale
thats different tho
that is a hidden comsetic
it doesnt even show in the loot table i think
brittle crow
im p sure tusks dont show in the loot table?
brittle crow
still they're both cosmetic so its the same
fringe vale
tusks are an item
they dont figure as a cosmetic
its just an item
witha cool mog
brittle crow
got it first farm
im going to eat your grandma
fringe vale
brittle crow
ur not helping
fringe vale
not a cosmetic
brittle crow
ya but they're both cosmetic
brittle crow
its not hidden if everyone knows abt it
fringe vale
it still is hidden
brittle crow
man i already wasted days of my life farming for tusks that r now free
im not gonna waste more arguing with GOONS
fringe vale
its like back in the day when u got them pokemon thing in bags of chips and u got that one shiny one that didnt figure in the collection pool but u got it and it was rare af and everyone knew about it but it was still rlly rare
loud locust
is the weekly timewalkiing but fixed?
fringe vale
yes
young swan
if tusks can be bought theres no reason for argus scythe or taeshalach to not also be purchasable
also the shoulders from zaqul
brittle crow
i think its ok to have specific notorious extremely rare items
vernal onyx
@main skiff come to normal raid
young swan
i think its ok to have specific notorious extremely rare items
thats what mounts are for
brittle crow
thats what mounts are for
cant flex mounts in raids or most dungeons
young swan
oh well
to be clear i dont give a fuck about blizz adding or not adding tusks to mop remix
i dont have them
and I dont care to farm them
brittle crow
u will soon
young swan
but if i can purchase them I will
and I think that should be extended to similar items
sick viper
Im more mad that I cant play mop Destro lock
sick viper
its still lame asf
young swan
its only lame if you ever expected to play mop classes on the retail client lmfao
restive peak
I'm a dirty 1 2h user this tier but miss the fury homies
sick viper
mop classes were peak
this is the only way they should do mop classic timeframe wise tbh
low portal
Is the upgrading bugged right now? was able to go to 522 with just heroic crests
left perch
also the shoulders from zaqul
This please
drowsy heron
they fix the timewalking quest bug?
plush ice
yo, anyone in raid tongiht having problems w/ ravager/heroic leap?
the txture has stopped appearing
i've changed my graphics settings, rebooted, the works, nothing seems to fix it
ionic mortar
can someone tell me why with the patch and no change in tier yet, fury sims higher than arms now, unlike last tier?
sinful spoke
if u got a bugged box yday and reported it ingame u get a new one in the mail btw
gilded pawn
Pog
upbeat sentinel
Do we have a tier list for trinkets?
brittle crow
2 Caches from Timewaking 5duns and Raids give 2 boots. both are crit vers
2 caches?
wanton mirage
1 box from TWx5, 1 box from black temple quest
clever path
im really hating this season 2 tier set in raid lol
brittle crow
blame the europeans who botted it
modest condor
clever path
oh i do blame them
wish blizz wasnt lazy and used their brains to know it was botted
compact knot
the mythic one... (i rolled the 94)
sullen dove
if u got a bugged box yday and reported it ingame u get a new one in the mail bt...
one of my guildies just got told this
sinful spoke
u dont submit a ticket
compact knot
the mythic one... (i rolled the 94)
i also got gimped on the grieftorch for heroic, lost by 1
sinful spoke
sullen dove
what is "report in game"
sinful spoke
this screen
sinful spoke
press escape
click support
most left option
submit feedbaxck r bug report
and type it there
sullen dove
u think i can also do it if i got an item i didnt like
wanton mirage
the mythic one... (i rolled the 94)
thats huge dude.
compact knot
i lost it
wanton mirage
94 is huge
sullen dove
not huge enough
summer quail
atleast grieftorch isn't that insane, losing the ring is rough tho
sinful spoke
u think i can also do it if i got an item i didnt like
i dont think so 
i opened my new box and got dogshti anyways
wanton mirage
yeah so is a 99 on the grieftorch
wh won? from Kit's guild or rando pug? for both ring and torch
sinful spoke
bitter palm
xdd
compact knot
wh won? from Kit's guild or rando pug? for both ring and torch
torch was guildie, this ring is a random i think though
havent seen him b4
my schedule doesnt give me much time to run keys, so i lowkey havent gotten a single upgrade yet
lmfao
same as i was monday
feral ivy
is it best to break the tier at 4 or 2?
compact knot
is the hardmode deathless in dawn of the inifnites
slim coral
yes
sullen dove
and theres some extra achieve thing to pick up some items
fringe vale
god its feels so awkward playing with rb again lmao
left perch
hey guys jw is if I should play aug or deva in keys if I enjoy being a warrior player but like getting invites in s4
limpid tapir
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/v98gfJ6WFR4Akw7D#fight=14&type=damage-done as someone who isnt a warrior is there anything you guys notice my friend is doing wrong that i can tell him to stop doing to do more pewpew
upbeat sentinel
Is Storm-Eater's boon good for us?
Blood Mallet says bad for ST but I can't find any AoE tier lists
upbeat sentinel
Owns as in like S tier?
left perch
aug in 16+s
It’s funny because weeks 1-4 I got invites because aug, even tho not needed
and then later I was like “guys do you care if I go deva it’s a weekly 20”
dense sparrow
when should we be breaking Ami 4 set? ASAP or hold for 4 pieces?
left perch
Fury hold 4pc arms 2/2
summer quail
Owns as in like S tier?
Yes, but it's super risky
upbeat sentinel
well if im gonna die either way its not quite as risky is it 🙂
dense sparrow
Fury hold 4pc arms 2/2
🫡 appreciate it
sullen dove
hey guys jw is if I should play aug or deva in keys if I enjoy being a warrior p...
just play dev
fuck them
left perch
tell them you're aug and be dev instead
I queue as “buffodile” and then def secretly be dragon mage
cba how to do Aug totems in AD or spikes in WCM
On low keys
olive wraith
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/v98gfJ6WFR4Akw7D#fight=14&type=damage-done ...
Took only a very quick glance on mobile but it looks like he isn’t cleaving (meat cleaver) a lot of spells and his prio looks a bit off
Like I’ve seen slam and execute casted before bb which is a Nono
hushed barn
is it a waste spending a catalyst charge on a champion track item week 1? Not really doing keys this week to get anything on a higher track
olive wraith
First cast of avatar was 22 seconds in (well after combat started) and first Of was 45 seconds in
olive wraith
is it a waste spending a catalyst charge on a champion track item week 1? Not re...
I’d personally only use catalyst to bump up to 4p
slim coral
It’s funny because weeks 1-4 I got invites because aug, even tho not needed
go shadow priest
left perch
go shadow priest
Imagine enjoying shadow crash
restive peak
<@301095302977290241> nice terros king
❤️ ty bae
restive peak
Atttta boiiii
compact knot
ok the second boss
of doti hardmode
is fucking impossible
LOL
2.2 mil with SR up and defensive stance
restive peak
got my first 100!
Proud brothaaaaa!
slim coral
Proud brothaaaaa!
ty ty forgot to tell you I joined nVus so pretty hyped
the guild seems pretty chill
sullen dove
got my first 100!
hate to burst your bubble bud but uh.. u can check rankings rn
r4
why is yo as 499
zamn bro upgraded 2 weapons
wilin
slim coral
why is yo as 499
I'm doing content
restive peak
ty ty forgot to tell you I joined nVus so pretty hyped
Sick dude that's amazing
wispy dock
if im late to the warrior game and dont have leggo... whats the thoughts... do i try to farm heroic fyrakk even tho not many groups or...??
wispy dock
i know but is there an ideal way like can i buy it with dinar?
wispy dock
ah
restive peak
You have to have it
upbeat plume
does upgrading another weapon make it so the leggo upgrade path dosetn cost crests like normal?
when we get the bullion next week, well I guess no way to know till then now that I think about it
cedar edge
i would think so, i think all the gear works that way right?
upbeat plume
yeah Id assume I got the axe of heroic tonight so figured upgrading it in the mean time wouldnt lose to much efficeny
cedar edge
oh gratz dude
upbeat plume
lol 90% of twohanded users just dont want anything cause leggo upgrade so was easy to snatch it up
wispy dock
do we go 2p/2p or we wait to break till full 4pc
meager void
I made mine 422 and got a 2nd today, just 700 flights to get it to 422
you mean 522
so basically, if I upgrade a myth track weapon, I dont need crests for leggo?
restive peak
you mean 522
Ye 522
meager void
Ive got Qalashi Crusher myth track atm and Im confirming if upgrading it to 4/4 would spare me the crests for leggo next week
or is it a wait game here?
sudden tusk
Ive got Qalashi Crusher myth track atm and Im confirming if upgrading it to 4/4 ...
upgrade it now if you are going to use it
lego will just be crests
or sorry
flightstones
sullen dove
does spiteful storm still suck
sudden tusk
ist okay
junior gale
its just a worse signet
sullen dove
alr i dont want to wait 12 years to save 15 wyrms on a chest
just gonna 4set
well
goodbye odyns fury and respectable single target damage
will miss you
time to 
now
wispy dock
onslaught does decent ST
frail cave
when should i be breaking my 4pc?
lunar basin
Is it better to craft boots or wrist first
unreal onyx
Ive got Qalashi Crusher myth track atm and Im confirming if upgrading it to 4/4 ...
You can potentially replace that next week with ashkandur anyway 
lean nacelle
don't you take hack n slash instead of sudden death?
sinful spoke
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kjVZ6hYxEKa6hLaWCcoKA9
No this is right
I was losing my mind over these numbers earlier
sullen dove
na the ww isnt
young swan
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kjVZ6hYxEKa6hLaWCcoKA9
6 extra ilvl and same as what I simmed at the end of s3
candid falcon
making the boots with shadowflame patch to eventually swap with my cloak when i get silent star, is crit/mastery still a safe bet for stats?
tender seal
tender seal
yeh
sinful spoke
Nah bro