#fury

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clever belfry
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spriest is even morem obile m8!!!

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fleet cargo
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And linked to some sort of rng ?

clever belfry
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"global cdr" you mean haste cdr

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our global cdr would be all cdr

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which for fury is a lot more than just baseline haste cdr

gleaming siren
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?????????????????????????

clever belfry
sour frigate
clever belfry
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what is "hover"

chrome plover
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-32.71% less affected by increased movement

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🤓

gleaming siren
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Best gear scaling I will shoot myself (ingame)

clever belfry
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the s word

clever belfry
gleaming siren
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True

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Wait it says Aff has less buttons

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Ah icant

chrome plover
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I didnt even know that site still ran

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insane dedication

clever belfry
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i mean they put minimum effort and harvest ad revenue

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this has nothing to do with dedication xd

chrome plover
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wdym bro they are building something new

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frail cave
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Wait noxic is still around?

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I honestly thought that site was lost to the void

clever belfry
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if u wanna have a laugh with guildies its a good 30min going through their guides ye

frail cave
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I just use wowhead whatever subcreation turned into and here

finite notch
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How do we feel about the proposed War Within changes?

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The internet hasnt told me how I should feel yet. Either I am outraged, or really outraged. But I dont know why.

summer quail
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??? in s2 it was the same it always is. whatever sims the highest, i had 36% and it didn't want me to drop any haste

fleet cargo
finite notch
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Yeah, definitely appreciate it is early days and that we will see some changes as everything progresses.

clever belfry
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just do a /roll every day to figure out how to feel

finite notch
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Ive mained warrior for years and absolutely vibe with fury, but really struggled as Dragonflight wore on. Made the switch to pally but then so did everyone.

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/roll 10000

9998 = everything is okay
<9998 = I hate it

tender cairn
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I still vibe with fury

finite notch
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Yeah I just like having utility and pally's have that in spades. Once we get expanded dracthyr classes Ill probs come back

terse ether
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Does anyone have any spreadsheet or something that explains a bit with the S4 things? Like the new currency, how tier sets works etc?

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Thanks in advance

tender cairn
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the only reason I want utility is for more pug invites, other than that I dont rly care tbf, just wanna pew pew

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alto warr bres would be nice

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let me scream ppl back to life

fleet cargo
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War bress doesnt sound okish but bl fits us well

finite notch
tender cairn
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😔

terse ether
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We should have bl cry

tender cairn
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inspiring shout

terse ether
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Badass shout

tardy lark
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reeeeeeeeeeeeee

tender cairn
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group wide spell reflect

terse ether
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That was a PvP talent

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Of prot I think?

tender cairn
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unsure tbf

terse ether
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We are not bards

tender cairn
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u say this

terse ether
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XD

tender cairn
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but we can have guitar axe

clever belfry
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before it got gutted

tender cairn
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pretty much bard

clever belfry
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(my fault) (sorry)

tender cairn
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its ok

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I forgive u

tardy lark
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Anda slowly killing us in SL beta

clever belfry
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exploited every key on beta

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warrior got nuked

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gg

tender cairn
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I didnt have leg

tardy lark
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it started with Anda ended with Xeos

tender cairn
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can u do more of it

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so they gut current leg

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thanks

clever belfry
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nah im no longer relevant sorry

tender cairn
clever belfry
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it is what it is

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(good is what it is)

tender cairn
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cant wait to be flamed for not having leg or smth

terse ether
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Jokes aside, someone can ezplaint

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Explain

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How many tiers I need

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To play both fury and arms

tender cairn
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wdym

clever belfry
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u need one tier set

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xd

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?

terse ether
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Arms is S1 bonus

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Fury s2

clever belfry
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no

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S4 has both

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S4 set also doesnt intermingle with s1-s3 sets

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so u just need NEW tier

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thats it.

terse ether
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Yeah I got that part

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I mean

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When I go fury I will play with s2 bonus

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And when I switch to arms I will have automatically S1 bonuses?

summer quail
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yes

clever belfry
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?? thats what i j ust said

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so u didnt get that part

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at all

terse ether
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Relax Karen, I just asked a question XD

tender cairn
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karen

clever belfry
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Confidently wrong when you're getting explained something is just

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donkey

terse ether
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😄

tender cairn
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also I missed that part

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do we not get new bonus

clever belfry
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its the exact same thing as when u swap spec rn and your tier bonus swaps

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s4 set arms bonus is just s1 and fury is s2

tender cairn
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kek

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so basically

terse ether
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Yeah normally in a tier set u have 1 bonus

tender cairn
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nothing changes for me

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cuz I skipped s3

terse ether
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Now we will have 3

clever belfry
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one arms, one fury, one prot

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and now you still have that

brave cairn
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Maybe he hasn't played for years

clever belfry
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this has been the system since mop (maybe wod? i forgor, wod had the auto swap for sure tho)

terse ether
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Yeah from different seasons

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We sat the same thing boy

clever belfry
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stop thinking about seasons

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it literally doesnt matter

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we are in season 4

tender cairn
clever belfry
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the season 4 bonus for arms just happens to be the same as s1

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theres no further connection

terse ether
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Yeah yeah

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I just got brain farted

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For some reason I thought we should have 2 different S4 tier sets ( armours)

tender cairn
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silly goos

terse ether
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So debate

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Arms or fury for raid

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I think fury is super fun for m+ no questions about it

tender cairn
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idc imma fury

terse ether
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But raid is different

tender cairn
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not an arms enjoyer

terse ether
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I also think VOTI favours arms more

oblique trail
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If you care about being optimal, very likely arms for vast majority of fights

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If not, then whatever you want

terse ether
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Yeah obviously

tender cairn
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dps prot is the play

terse ether
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Tbc warrior

tender cairn
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and since I wont have leg I'm not gon be optimal either way keks

clever belfry
tender cairn
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it is what it is

terse ether
oblique trail
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I will

hollow elk
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there any classes doing less dps than fwarrior anyways?

terse ether
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Yes

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Tanka

hollow elk
terse ether
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Tanks xD

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And probably frost dk

hollow elk
terse ether
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This is propaganda

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Don't listen to this

fresh rock
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Haha

grizzled wadi
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S Tier in our hearts

tender cairn
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what is that list

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for s4?

grizzled wadi
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Has S4 started in NA yet ?

hollow elk
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today at like 3 pm est i think

cyan star
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2pm EST if things go according to plan (they probably won’t)

hollow elk
unreal onyx
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Do I have to do a 23 key this reset to get a 20 in S4 again?

hollow elk
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think they arent doing that this time around

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everyone starts with a zero

unreal onyx
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Bruhhh

oblique trail
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So doesn't matter

unreal onyx
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I wouldn’t have done one anyway

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S4 dead season

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Not even hyped for it personally sadge

sour tundra
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Season 4 will only last a few weeks anyways before everyone swaps to panda land for MOP remix

unreal onyx
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I haven’t raided in months, at least that will be cool again

fleet cargo
hollow elk
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S4 for the mount and rewards then go down to vault a week hue

fleet cargo
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He is not aware of the things

unreal onyx
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Get 3k io, get hc achiev, do myth for fun

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Into weekly 18s

hollow elk
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Pretty much

unreal onyx
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How many guilds got ce by now in s3?

hollow elk
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Isn't io numbers Gona be lower this time around

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Since we losing +2 to+10

high basin
fleet cargo
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That pettko dude was jokingn with me on stream when i try to say fury isnt garbage at s4

hollow elk
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Coppe

fleet cargo
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He was just makingn fun of my arguments lmao

unreal onyx
oblique trail
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As in, doing a +2 will give you the same score as a +12 last season

hollow elk
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Ah

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Saves em the trouble of rescoring I guess

sour tundra
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So what key level should we be spamming once servers go up for season 4

oblique trail
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Depends on your skill, but +10s

hollow elk
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10

oblique trail
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They'll give highest vault reward and Aspects

hollow elk
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Think aspects and max dungeon Ilvl reward start at 7? So at least that

oblique trail
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Otherwise +8s for those who struggled to do 20s last season, as in they'd still give myth track but 1 lower upgrade level, still aspects, and no 3rd affix

hollow elk
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Are they capping aspect stones

oblique trail
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Don't recall them talking about it, but iirc they didn't cap Valor in S4 SL

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So presumably they just do the same for this season

hollow elk
primal plover
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is there a way to sim some arms vs fury for season 4 trying to figure out what stat prio and who wins out cause fury felt super dog in aoe when PTR first came out but not sure if since changed

oblique trail
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Don't think about stat prio

hollow elk
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There is a chart somewhere that already did that for ya

oblique trail
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Almost all your gear slots are locked in for what you want, so even if you can play around a bit with some pieces it wont make a noticeable difference

terse ether
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Does it worth doing a high key today to have it ready for tomorrow?

rough seal
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Will vault's reward updated to s4?

oblique trail
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Every key resets to a +2

terse ether
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No matter what you did

oblique trail
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Yes

terse ether
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So if I run a +2 will I get a +2? xD

oblique trail
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If you run a +32 you get a +2

terse ether
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That's cheating! keks keks

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Because it will be an upgrade

slim pollen
timber warren
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Does anyone know if s4 will have catalyst charges or is it uncapped from the start?

oblique trail
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S4 will have catalyst charges, you get 1 per week

pliant ginkgo
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Does anyone have a BIS list for m+ s4

tardy lark
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10 messages above

empty mirage
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who else is ready for fury to be fun again

hardy shuttle
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I'm ready. Details is uninstalled and the ca-ching is back

empty mirage
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love the fuckin cha ching

glad coyote
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ready to play arms this season as it'll do more damage in m+

empty mirage
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pipe down ur in the wrong channel get outta here

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this is the mens channel over here

glad coyote
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i wish fury was doing more damage

empty mirage
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lil weewee baby channel is 1 up

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arms is better than fury this season as well, ive yet to have an arms out dps me

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skill > Dps chart

glad coyote
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are you talking raid or m+?

empty mirage
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both

glad coyote
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cause fury is better in both

empty mirage
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This season its not lol

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according to dps charts

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arms is almost consistently better

silent burrow
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what dps charts are you looking at lol

glad coyote
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right lol?

empty mirage
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Maybe im remembering incorrecty

mossy fox
empty mirage
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either way

silent burrow
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I too love a good chat

empty mirage
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fury or nothin

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2 sword better than 1 its just math

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silent burrow
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Math is what they need to do to fury s4

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cause the numbers ain't it chief

empty mirage
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they just need to buck up and give fury 2 pets, a mount ability in combat, an immunity for 10 sec, a brez, and bloodlust, and maybe ill be happy

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and i want my ignore pain back

silent burrow
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Little early for this much yappin for me

mossy fox
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are you trying to say fury isnt tanky

empty mirage
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it is but i wanna be more tanky make me unkillable

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make me op

mossy fox
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playing the wrong class bud

empty mirage
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i wanna be able to 1v1 a demon hunter and have a chance

hard widget
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😄

empty mirage
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in pvp its so squishy

oblique trail
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I'm confused

empty mirage
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after enraged regen ur fucked u just die unless u have a pocket healer

oblique trail
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You go from talking about M+ and raid (?) to pvp suddenly

silent burrow
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I read pvp and the rest turned to white noise

empty mirage
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in pve content fury is a survivor

hard widget
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Have you considered more vers?

empty mirage
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i got verse

hard widget
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So do I, yet more vers = more surviving

chrome plover
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pvp deadge

empty mirage
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pvp is so fun when it is

hard widget
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Im gonna go on a limb here and say ur not stance dancing

chrome plover
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drunk rbgs with the boys maybe

empty mirage
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i hit the nasitest stance dance

chrome plover
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the rest of it no ty

paper ivy
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what addon can one use for friendlists?

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if u want to sort friends

hard widget
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Friend groups

paper ivy
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any links?

empty mirage
hard widget
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Helps me categorize all my 3 friends

empty mirage
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we got mister popular ova here

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oh my lordy lord i have too many friends guys

paper ivy
empty mirage
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no problemo

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i wish there was an addon that would let me use the normal windows curser

chrome plover
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you can do that with yolomouse probs

amber arch
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whats the best way to track server updtime? Is there a site or like a twitter account?

silent burrow
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google wow server status

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there's several places to track

empty mirage
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u can track it by trying to log in and if it dont let u its down

nova gorge
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Do I see

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Chawie

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What a cutie fr

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Also, haven't played since August - what's good DPS & where can I see changes of talents or how to play since then til now? <3

empty mirage
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u can google season 4 dps list if you want to see what the highest base dps is

nova gorge
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Ooh ty!

empty mirage
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icyveins and wowhead are the 2 best to look at

nova gorge
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Thank you <3

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I'm v dumb

empty mirage
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nah ur alg we all been there

nova gorge
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Oh the dps list doesn't show like

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Numbers or so

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Just which class / spec

empty mirage
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really cant show numbers, they change so much depending on gear, spec, etc

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and skill

nova gorge
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Yee for sure but is there like uhhh "100k is bad, 150k is good" etc rough guidelines?

empty mirage
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they will be all around the same, some slightly higher some slightly lower, none will be so terrible its not worth playing

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play what you enjoy and if youre good at it, the list means nothing

obtuse steeple
nova gorge
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I just mean for fury warr :P bc we're in the fury channel :p

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nova gorge
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I haven't touched wow for months so idk where to aim :(

empty mirage
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what class gives you the most enjoyment

nova gorge
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i only warr

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i mean personal dps like dont wanna be bottom of dps

chrome plover
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just play good and your dps will be good bedge

empty mirage
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then just pick fury or ars, whatever you like to play more

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literally whatever gives you more enjoyment play that, if youre good at your class youll be fine

nova gorge
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What is uh

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That website

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For seeing other M+ players

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Their talents and such

empty mirage
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dont follow that rn tho for a build and shit, the season is changing in like 4 hours

nova gorge
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This wasn't it but it's much cooler tho

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Oh it is?

empty mirage
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yeah after reset season 4 starts

nova gorge
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Ooh okay

empty mirage
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if you played in season 2 the fury build will be the same as that most likely since were getting our season 2 set back

amber arch
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whats the damage profile look like? Are we more AOE based in S4 and less ST?

tender cairn
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i skipped s3, so ig absolutely nothing changes for me keks

cold cape
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For raid is Fury still better than Arms?

empty mirage
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this season was the worst season for fury lmao

empty mirage
cold cape
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I keep seeing info to go Arms > Fury for M+, is this true? But what about raid?

amber arch
cold cape
amber arch
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Ya im seeing that as well that arms is going to be good but idk if I can bring myself to play it

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i like being invincable

marble pilot
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If you like fury more just play fury. Unless you are progression raiding or do high end keys it doesnt matter

empty mirage
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you do whatever you want lmao

amber arch
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and prio dam is more important anyway

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I was pushing 26s and 3/9M

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as purely fury

empty mirage
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Arms will do more than fury in m+ annd raid, but if ur not a dummy fury can still out dps arms

cold cape
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In PTR?

amber arch
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sweet

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Ive got to learn 8 new dungeons and 3 new raids now lol

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s4 builds are out on wowhead now

empty mirage
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ur a warrior just stand in mechanics like a man

amber arch
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meanwhile DH getting 2-3 shot by those things, im standing in melee taking hits from 3 spitefuls and barely flinching

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oh wait the talents page hasnt updated yet

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how do we feel about onslaught? I kind of dislike it

silent burrow
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why

empty mirage
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its just a filler

amber arch
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because im so used to fury that all my buttons are in the right places

empty mirage
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does hella damage tho

amber arch
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and its one extra button I don't have a good keybind for

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lol

silent burrow
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So put OS where your slam kb is

empty mirage
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yeah just ignore slam and replace with onslaught lol

amber arch
silent burrow
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You don't press slam in s2 lol

empty mirage
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onslaughts damage is stupid

amber arch
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I assume were getting RB back right?

empty mirage
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slam is a filler, always will be

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yeah

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when you get season 4 tier set

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other than that stay in s3 build

silent burrow
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I can't believe we're having a conversation about fury having too many buttons rn lol

amber arch
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I really dont have the best keybinds but ive had them forever

amber arch
empty mirage
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average fury brain, too many button cant do it

amber arch
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my problem is that charge is on 1 lol

empty mirage
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god forbid we have more than 4 buttons

silent burrow
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yikes

amber arch
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charge 1, slam 2, BT 3, ramp 4, WW 5

silent burrow
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wild

empty mirage
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that leaves 6 7 8 9 0 e r t q z x c v f g h

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and shift all oft hose

chrome plover
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that leaves ctrl + shift + P

silent burrow
amber arch
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is game up? ill scrab a screenshot

empty mirage
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its up for 14 more min

silent burrow
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You have shit keybinds, we believe you

amber arch
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i like having rotational buttons on easy buttons

silent burrow
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no need for a ss

empty mirage
amber arch
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especially the ones i press a lot

empty mirage
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suu woop

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that aint even the juicy bit hollup

amber arch
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I dont actually press the keys for the top row, just click as needed

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empty mirage
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you CLICK

clever path
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Fucking clickers

empty mirage
clever path
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Aren't actually people

amber arch
tender cairn
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u click on hotbars?

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pathetic

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I click on spellbook

amber arch
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nothing up there is rotational haha

empty mirage
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last time i seen someone click an ability i cooked them so hard they blocked me

chrome plover
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trinket? detective

amber arch
chrome plover
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fight me

amber arch
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they are just there so i can see the CD if i need to

empty mirage
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thats fair those aint abilities n shit

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i also click buffs

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item buffs that is

chrome plover
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I dont click battle shout cos what if one of the homies gets combat ressed and needs it

amber arch
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but any class that needs more buttons than those 2 rows pisses me off

empty mirage
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wait til he finds out about rogue

marble pilot
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Charge is on q and heroic leap on e. What are you people doing having mobility on anything else

amber arch
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my MW has a lot of buttons actually, Prot warr does too

empty mirage
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all i know is i just want my ravager back

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fucks a MW

chrome plover
amber arch
marble pilot
amber arch
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or at least it used to...

empty mirage
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i have leap on m5 and auto walk on m4

chrome plover
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I used to have taunt on shift-5

marble pilot
chrome plover
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and rampage on 5

amber arch
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you guys gonna roast me for this but ive only got 2 mouse buttons and one is bound to my mount

chrome plover
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i also only have 2 mouse buttons

clever path
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Doesn't excuse the clicker behavior

chrome plover
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u dont need an mmo mouse to play wow

silent burrow
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Did you just actually set out to create the worst keybinds

amber arch
empty mirage
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ive tried an mmo mouse and i death grip my shit so it dont work for me

chrome plover
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i swear my thumb would not have the dexterity for one of those

amber arch
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mine make perfect sense!

silent burrow
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Even if all you have is a scroll wheel, you have at least 9 binds available on a mouse lol

empty mirage
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i also hate how when i push the mmo mouse buttons the screen shakes

marble pilot
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1= rampage 2=bt 3= rb 4= onsalught 5= ww. execute mouse down. Cooldowns on mouse.
Movement q/e.
I click buffs cause I dont die so I click an hour is fine.

amber arch
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i hate pressing scroll wheel

silent burrow
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actually, 12

amber arch
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1 and 2 are sooo annoying to press

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compared to 3 and 4

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you have to stop moving to hit them

marble pilot
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Skill issue I guess.

empty mirage
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1 and 2 are the easiest keys ever u arthritis havin mfer

silent burrow
chrome plover
silent burrow
marble pilot
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I can hit D or W and 1/2 just fine. I go right instead of left I guess

amber arch
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I prefer hitting 3 and 4 with my index

silent burrow
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shift mwd was my goblin jump

empty mirage
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i hit 3 and 4 with my middle

amber arch
chrome plover
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I dont use middle click for anything but maybe i should

amber arch
empty mirage
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middle mouse click is my swap target

chrome plover
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maybe middle click taunt

marble pilot
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I used to have taunt on middle click. It isnt the best place for it

silent burrow
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middle click is avatar/cd's macro

empty mirage
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thats vile

marble pilot
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Sometime hard to hit the middle click without scrolling. Or somethimes you go to scroll and click in the mouse and taunt lol

amber arch
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I just cant bring myself to pull charge off of 1

chrome plover
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offensive cds are always on shift - d, r, f

amber arch
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even though I should put it on mouse wheel up or something

empty mirage
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charge on 1 is such a waste of a good key lmao

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my charge is on z

amber arch
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i know

silent burrow
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shift q for charge for me

chrome plover
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1 is ww

marble pilot
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Charge Q leap E

amber arch
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thats my biggest shame

empty mirage
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g is ww

amber arch
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my movement is usually on F and shift F

silent burrow
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F is small defensive and G is big defensive

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on everything

amber arch
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heal is on E and ER is on Shift E

marble pilot
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Charge is also comboed with victory rush so that doesnt take a slot

amber arch
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r is kick, shift r is reflect (since im not kicking)

silent burrow
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I have charge/victory rush macro too

amber arch
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this is the way

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THANK YOU

chrome plover
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I have victory rush on 6

amber arch
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onslaught on 1 here I come

silent burrow
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VR is on a mouse button for me

amber arch
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All my classes have heals on E and def CD on shift E

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I want to be able to hit it ASAP if needed

tender cairn
#

my charge is shift R chatting

amber arch
#

health pot is on mouse button

silent burrow
#

same with ww, ramp, lego, kick, roar, cd's, mounts, hs... lol

marble pilot
#

Just put everything in order from a-l and roll left to right. Should work fine.

empty mirage
#

i use f1 and f2 for stance still lmao

amber arch
amber arch
empty mirage
#

idek what that macro would be

#

i dont use macros

marble pilot
#

You can use any other melee ability instead. But I like that combo

sinful orbit
#

I prefer charge and hamstring bind.

calm mantle
#

Wait is s4 out? I haven't played in about a month, how's it looking?

warm crag
#

@oblique trail is fury meta?

oblique trail
#

It'll be out in some hours for NA, tomorrow for EU

#

Arms is one of the best specs, Fury less so in raid but still good in M+

oblique trail
eternal sundial
#

@oblique trail does my wife love me

oblique trail
eternal sundial
#

Compare it to a fortnite skin

calm mantle
#

I'm going to be another Fury andy this tier lets go

oblique trail
#

She found someone with the John Wick skin

#

So it's basically gg for you

regal falcon
#

Do I have to use Annihilator again? Please say no

oblique trail
#

You dont

rustic obsidian
#

No , but u need set first

oblique trail
#

In S4, you swap back to the AM setup from S2

regal falcon
#

Most pogadocious

oblique trail
#

But yes it requires you to get the set first

calm mantle
#

So we keep playing old build till we get set?

regal falcon
#

Thats fine, arent the catalyst available week 1 and available every week now?

tender cairn
#

its fine I have the s2 set

calm mantle
#

Probably going to have to redo my atrocity UI with S4 right? I haven't checked his updates in awhile.

oblique trail
oblique trail
regal falcon
#

And there's still a free tier piece for hitting 2k io as well?

lean wasp
#

Is it pre season in NA ?

#

No raids no m+ right ?

mental rune
#

Everything is live once servers are back up

chrome plover
lean wasp
chrome plover
#

...

tender cairn
#

hey chawie how ya doin

chrome plover
#

im doin ok

#

poe kinda died so im ready to play wow again bedge

tender cairn
#

didnt the season only just start

#

or some such

chrome plover
#

like a month ago?

#

I think

tender cairn
#

time flies

chrome plover
#

usually done with a season in 3-5 weeks unless it's really good

tender cairn
#

yeah fair

#

waiting for poe 2 at this point keks

warm crag
#

pog frog

tender cairn
#

I was balduring my gates

#

no gate was left unbaldured

chrome plover
# warm crag divs under 100c

played a private league with friends, came back and my mageblood was worth 100d and all my divines were worth 100c huh

tender cairn
#

damn mr big pockets out here

warm crag
chrome plover
tender cairn
#

ngl I never reach those levels

warm crag
#

man 100 divs is a lot

chrome plover
#

i bought at 155 and thought it was low critcake

tender cairn
#

I get to like

#

actually nvm I get to nothing

chrome plover
tender cairn
#

just farm maps 24/7 and nothing else

chrome plover
#

i play a lot and efficiently first week and then chill out

tender cairn
#

no idea what else to doo and too lazy to find out

#

im a d3 andy

chrome plover
#

and then sometimes a few weeks in do some sweaty group play with friends but that's always fun and games (and we brick 90% of maps because 1 guy always runs away from everyone)

tender cairn
#

need me that simplicity

chrome plover
#

and then after that i make a vanity build and/or quit

tender cairn
chrome plover
#

this league it's a stupid mana stacking rage vortex scion and it fucking sucks LMAO

#

last league it was an armour stacker

tender cairn
#

me almost always going for summoner

chrome plover
#

i never really got into minion builds at all

tender cairn
#

im the opposite when it comes to poe

#

no idea how ppl survive without a meatshield army

dense elbow
winter shoal
chrome plover
chrome plover
tender cairn
winter shoal
#

I didn't even get to play in those 3 days because of work

chrome plover
#

feels so bad actually :kekw

tender cairn
#

im hiding way back

chrome plover
tender cairn
#

that is true

stable cove
#

what's our dinar spending route boys, is it axe then augury then something else i havent thought about

oblique trail
#

Lego > Aug > Era/Brood ring > Ash > Brand > Cloak

#

Can prob swap Brand and Cloak around

naive swallow
oblique trail
#

By then you'd have cleared the raid multiple times so good chance you've gotten either one

naive swallow
#

afair it used to not be there

stable cove
oblique trail
oblique trail
oblique trail
#

If it's not white, then I don't know what the issue might be

manic gulch
#

could someone eli5 this please

image.png
oblique trail
#

You look left to right

manic gulch
#

what does haste = mastery means ?

stable cove
oblique trail
#

It means they're equal value

stable cove
#

prio haste and mast equally

oblique trail
#

But in other words, just top gear sim yourself instead of looking at stat prios

stable cove
#

^

manic gulch
#

ok

#

thanks

chrome plover
oblique trail
#

I'm lying to your face Chawie

#

And will laugh when you should've bought Cloak first item

warm crag
#

stop PLEASE !!!!

manic gulch
silent burrow
#

It does seem counterproductive for us to use signet, cloak and BSL lol

oblique trail
#

I would just not use BSL personally

chrome plover
silent burrow
silent burrow
#

That's how I found the sim with the 3 embellishments, cause I was looking to see what neck was bis if not using bsl neck

stable cove
#

do we ever send dinars on ashkandur or is that just a "get it when you get it" thing

chrome plover
chrome plover
silent burrow
#

It would be goated pfp

stable cove
manic gulch
#

are dinar items mythic tier ?

#

or do they start on the lowest tier and can be upgraded up to mythic

chrome plover
oblique trail
#

Dinar items are on their own track

#

Going from 1/12 or 1/14 for very rare items

split coyote
#

we not swapping tier until 4/4? or is it 2x2 situation?

lean heart
#

cannot run 2-2

ember apex
#

I didn't leave because I got rage. I left b/c I got timed out for sharing what bosses I liked. This is a community discord, idk why me liking sharing what bosses i thought were good is mutable when everyone else was doing the same thing.

manic gulch
#

i was hoping for bsl to be bis embellishment in s4

#

but its again x2 shadowflame or shadowflame and wristguard

silent burrow
split coyote
# lean heart cannot run 2-2

Let me rephrase that. Are we keeping our S3 4 set until we can get S4 4set or Can we switch to S4 2set once we have it.

lean heart
#

i thought i saw something on wowhead abt not being able to run 2x2

manic gulch
#

what you saw probably was that s3 and s4 is not the same

#

if they kept the same effects

gray osprey
#

S3 set feels terrible in the 2x2 split

silent burrow
#

idk why anyone would WANT to run 2-2, but you can afaik

manic gulch
#

so you can't use 2 from s4 and 2 from s3 to have a full s4 tier effect

#

this doesn't matter for fury because we went back to s2 tier effect

#

but some classes kept the same tier effect from s3

lean heart
#

oh nvm i misread the wowhead article

silent burrow
#

No, you'll just have a singular 2pc if your s4 picked was the s3 set

#

unless you got some wild set that can stack the 2pc, but doubt

feral ivy
#

is this the m+ tree ?

image.png
modest condor
#

that looks like a s4 m+ tree yes

feral ivy
#

cool tyty

warm crag
#

this is what i rigged the vote for

brittle crow
stable cove
stable cove
clever belfry
#

its just not uhh

#

very good

brittle crow
#

👍

clever belfry
#

nah smf is worse

#

than going of>onslaught

austere drift
clever belfry
#

xdd

feral ivy
#

question will ravager jus tthrow when ever or best to hold when avatar comes up?

brittle crow
#

they should line up

stable cove
#

arch are u ok?

image.png
brittle crow
#

if ur doing ur rotation good

feral ivy
#

ok cool tyty

robust basin
#

Fuck OF, fuck onslaught. Fuck all of it. But do not fuck with my Raging Blow. Season 3 fucked with my raging blow. Thus it needed to be eliminated

stable cove
#

i too am a raging blow enjoyer but OF is a fun button

silent burrow
#

bt>rb

clever belfry
#

so i think this is a reasonable thing to type?

robust basin
#

OF is fun. But not at the cost of Slam and a CD locked whirlwind.

Slam? Tf are we, Arm cowards?

stable cove
#

npc votes =/= votes

silent burrow
#

Not sure that's what happened bud

stable cove
feral ivy
#

any new macros yall have? i can 🙂

oblique trail
#

So it goes both ways

warm crag
#

nah only i rigged the votes

dry dragon
#

How do u get it first dinar is it first aotc?

warm crag
#

suffer with s2 noobers

oblique trail
dry dragon
#

Ahh ty

clever belfry
#

therefor we can conclude

untold moth
#

S2 set is great for m+ fun and we're in a m+ season. Blizzard didn't cook raids for s4 so its an easy skip

clever belfry
#

all NA votes = npc dogshit

stable cove
#

NA voters had your best interests in mind

warm crag
#

NA "voters" btfo'd

stable cove
#

na fury tier voters

image.png
sullen basin
#

I am EU and voted S3

#

At least nobody voted S1

stable cove
#

thank you for your service

warm crag
#

sorry to hear that

clever belfry
austere drift
robust basin
#

It affects nothing.

silent burrow
#

I mean, there were certainly instances where it didn't help

oblique trail
#

Little does Dimarco know that Slam is a Fury ability in Classic

#

👴

brazen island
#

hating s3 gameplay is understandable, it was completely different from what we were used to

#

but saying it wasn't fun at all is cope

warm crag
#

was it? wtf

robust basin
jovial summit
#

s2 superior

brazen island
#

yes literally, we were not even using RB which isn't something we've done in ages

#

prioritizing bt over rb is one thing, but not even taking rb is another

clever belfry
brazen island
#

(i know we take it and replace with annihilator)

clever belfry
#

for a long fucking time

silent burrow
#

If s2 damage tuning was as competitive as s3 was, nobody would be complaining that s2 was picked

tender seal
#

S3 was fun because you could do big ST dam - not because of the rotation imo

sullen dove
tender seal
#

And being absurdly tanky also helped

silent burrow
#

Cause gameplay wise, s2 bangs

warm crag
torpid dragon
silent burrow
clever belfry
warm crag
#

i need to play tbc arms

clever belfry
#

its a fucking

#

cast

#

and resets ur swing timer

#

thats why u use it right after swing

#

xdd

warm crag
#

i must play tbc arms now

untold moth
#

I can't believe yall are arguing that s3 is better than s2. At least rage is a bar in s2. S3 was OF waiting room simulator

brazen island
#

im just gonna miss s3 stat prio tbh

austere drift
#

having a bloodthirst WA tracker and not being able to make full use of my defensive without a dps loss and less passive livelord sustain is not superior to me but thats my opinion

brazen island
#

going max vers was so fun because you just don't take any damage in keys

clever belfry
#

??

robust basin
#

Fellas, fellas. The resolution to our discussion is simple.

Slam is for arm Andy weaklings who can’t even lift two weapons.

And Raging Blow is for thick fury chads

clever belfry
#

the fuck is this supposed to mean

warm crag
#

rage is bar

clever belfry
#

rage is a bar mate

untold moth
#

Rage matters in s2

clever belfry
#

spongie wanna open a bar in berlin

#

called rage

brazen island
#

think he means that at least you're thinking about rage in s2

clever belfry
#

then rage is indeed a bar

oblique trail
#

In S3 you had the option to BT first before you Rampaged

warm crag
#

when u enter rage is bar you gotta press s2 or s3 button

#

if you choose wrong you get exploded

brazen island
#

but no clue what you mean, you're definitely thinking about rage in s3

sullen dove
#

“Rage doesn’t matter this season” chatting chatting chatting

torpid dragon
#

🥴

oblique trail
#

Both seasons though Rage wasn't really a big factor

austere drift
#

i didnt think about rage in s2 and i wont think about rage in s4 either

clever belfry
#

real

#

press button if lighty up

brazen island
#

yeah i mean in reality, we don't really think about rage at all

#

imagine "thinking" about rage lmfaooo

#

"wonder what rage feels like"

austere drift
#

the only thing i thought about was whether my bt WA was high enough to bt

clever belfry
#

yall just need prettier rage bars

image.png
sullen dove
#

The only time I think about rage in s2 is when you get unlucky and reck drops off and you have to hit 4 raging blows in a row to hit ramp again!!! Fun design where your cooldowns aren’t really cooldowns anymore!!!

oblique trail
#

add sparkles

modest condor
#

i think a lot of people are feeling rage after finding out s2 won

clever belfry
#

oh right i gotta import my BT wa from ptr

warm crag
#

i need revvez technology for colour change when it is go time

clever belfry
brazen island
#

are we even eating in s4? isn't it basically arms or you're griefing?

oblique trail
#

Just add condition for when above certain rage amount it changes colour

brazen island
#

or am i dooming

silent burrow
#

mine changes color to ramp

#

that hoe turn bright green

#

cause go time

warm crag
#

surely fury is super relevant until we have arms set

#

(20 minutes)

clever belfry
#

real

brazen island
#

lmaooo yeah sounds about right

clever belfry
#

i will snipe

#

first tier set in my raid

#

dont tell anyone

brazen island
#

i hate arms gameplay mang

warm crag
#

i will press bis on eranog ring mythic and say that i have 1 less dinar so i need this ring

austere drift
#

i mean its s4 so im just gonna see it out as fury regardless even if arms is better, meme filler season

brazen island
#

i prefer the DDR simulator fury

robust basin
brazen island
#

yeah it's just not fun besides smash into BS

robust basin
#

Which we get back

brazen island
#

imagine trusting an icy-veins tier list lmfao

warm crag
#

i exclusively communicate in tier lists

supple tangle
#

Guess our job in S4 will be to buff the Ret Paladins

IMG_20240423_174354.jpg
brazen island
#

from icy-veins, though?

stable cove
clever belfry
stable cove
#

wasnt saying it was, just saying it has a pretty rage bar

brazen island
sullen dove
#

C tier arms lmao

charred panther
#

M+ rewards capped in any way this week?

sullen dove
#

hopefully not? Idk tho

brazen island
#

the only time these tier lists can be considered accurate is if it can be interpreted as "Fury cannot clear past +X keys"

gray osprey
#

I hope everyone who voted for S2 set enjoys playing Arms this season

brazen island
#

but they can't say that because that's not an accurate statement in any capacity

brazen island
silent burrow
sullen dove
robust basin
brazen island
#

LMFAO

robust basin
#

Done

#

I fixed it, S4 is looking up

wild mica
stable cove
#

s2 voters are unhinged what else is new

wild mica
#

I voted S3 I can sleep knowing I didn't fuck over everyone else

rigid stirrup
#

shoulda just kept it in s3 and we would've been cruising

silent burrow
#

So we supposed to vote like they aren't supposed to do their job

#

got it

austere drift
brazen island
untold moth
#

S3 in m+ is doodoo

brazen island
wild mica
olive wraith
#

When has blizz tuned well

austere drift
rigid stirrup
silent burrow
stable cove
#

you should know better then

gray osprey
#

I mean, now we're bad in both M+ and Raid. Hell yeah, S2 set is great!

untold moth
#

AM in M+ is so much better than pressing OF

silent burrow
#

lol ok

brazen island
#

i went from fresh to 3k in 3 weeks coming back at the end of s3, fury was eating well in M+ this season

stable cove
brazen island
#

yeah lmao

untold moth
#

Hell yeah 20s is m+ end point

wild mica
#

Do you not realize how ridiculously good OF is? Lmao have fun having tanks run mobs out of your ravager

untold moth
#

No more rewards, 0.1 title is deranged wow gamer behavior

stable cove
#

mods kill this guy

olive wraith
#

Crit was doing 30s

sullen dove
#

s2 def feels a lot better in m+ and is prolly more aoe but giving up like 10% aoe for like 100% st damage too good of a trade off

edgy widget
#

tbh I kinda agree with him lmao

brazen island
#

crit was doing 30s as arms

edgy widget
#

most people who shoot for title are kinda deranged

sullen dove
#

and fury too I’m sure

olive wraith
#

He played fury too

wild mica
#

I can confirm I always get title and am deranged

stable cove
#

i dont wanna learn arms

olive wraith
#

Fury had great prio dmg

sullen dove
#

noxiv I think was only fury and psure he still kept rank 1

stable cove
brazen island
#

if he's talking super super high end, yeah fury wasn't one of the better specs

#

but it was in a better state in s3 than in s1 and s2 for sure

wild mica
rigid stirrup
#

Ravager is so bad for keys man

brazen island
fading sky
# robust basin

i mean im gonna be VERY suprised is fury isnt fuckin INSANE in m+

rigid stirrup
#

if that thing actually had a motor or something on the axe so it moved more than snails pace we would be cookin

fading sky
#

again

#

when the FUCK

#

does that matter

olive wraith
#

Fury will be fine m+

wild mica
fading sky
#

u need to learn to place it

olive wraith
#

But arms is so much better

sullen dove
#

tank brain xan

brazen island
#

everyone will be "fine", i never understood this whole issue

fading sky
#

if u place and tank runs its a question of coordination

#

or u placing when tank is supposed to move

stable cove
#

if im not top 5 dps specs im a shit spec and need to be buffed

brazen island
#

like i said, if even a single person hits title on a spec then it's viable for the masses for 99% of gameplay

silent burrow
#

Why we pretending the whole point of ravager isn't for rage and hurricane

fading sky
#

canhas i legit dont know 😄

brazen island
#

there are specs it's easier to hit title on for sure, but no one is completely out of the question

feral ivy
#

question do i change my talents when i get 4set or doesnt matter?

untold moth
#

Aff loc would like a word

sullen dove
#

damage button only useful for its buff huh

olive wraith
#

Ravager is your aoe dmg for bigger pulls

rigid stirrup
#

to counter argument i shouldn't have to coordinate for every single one of my ravagers when I can just do OF and have gurenteed hits/cleave

covert blaze
brazen island
sullen dove
fading sky
olive wraith
austere drift
feral ivy
clever belfry
olive wraith
#

I assume you’ll want to wait for 4p

fading sky
#

OF is a AOE burn spell Ravager is a buff all other spells ability

brazen island
feral ivy
#

🙂

olive wraith
#

2/2 probably bad

silent burrow
brazen island
#

that's being downplayed in this convo so hard

rigid stirrup
fading sky
#

u can

olive wraith
fading sky
#

but u choose a better spec

clever belfry
wild mica
#

Back to capped aoe just in time for algethar to come back sadge

clever belfry
#

right

brazen island
#

o

gray osprey
#

I still vote NA gets S3 set and EU can have S2 set since that's what people voted for

sullen dove
silent burrow
clever belfry
#

tooltip doesnt say cause fuck u tho

brazen island
#

i'm cooked

sullen dove
#

is it any different when u flip the roles and now rampage does 40% of your damage cause the rest of your abilities FUCKING SUCK

fading sky
#

i mean as long as rampage does more dmg

#

who cares

silent burrow
#

Honestly one of the biggest bummers of s2 play is that you get penalized for using ER more or less

sullen dove
#

It’s also getting buffed by like 12% or sum from set

#

80% of that sets value

fading sky
#

ER ?

silent burrow
#

bt is such a better button than rb

sullen dove
#

enraged regen

fading sky
#

ah

#

u do ?

olive wraith
#

You don’t get penalized for using er

silent burrow
#

You do too.

sullen dove
#

U don’t build up stacks

fading sky
#

explain

sullen dove
#

so less damage

fading sky
#

clownsan

#

ahhh

brazen island
#

if you use BT early

fading sky
#

actually try

brazen island
#

because of ER

fading sky
#

true

sullen dove
#

if u have to use it to heal

olive wraith
#

If you spam bt sure

sullen dove
#

Ya that’s how u use ER

fading sky
#

tbf i do not like season 2 set

silent burrow
#

I mean that's the point of er lol

austere drift
brazen island
#

yeah lmao

fading sky
#

id wish the just gave more power into rampage

#

give us a set where spend is bigger boy

clever belfry
#

tooltips

#

fucking get a grip

brittle crow
#

there's a week of plunderstorm left right

clever belfry
#

politicians lie less than wow tooltips

brazen island
#

LMAO goated response

covert blaze
sullen dove
#

mfs when softcap =/= uncap no one cares about the damage it hits every target chatting

sullen dove
clever belfry
austere drift
#

i mean are you going to provide info or just insult lol? asked a simple question

covert blaze
feral ivy
#

why do ppl do recklessness >charge> avatar>roar. instead of charge>macro all 3?

silent burrow
clever belfry
sullen dove
#

cuz u get extra rage for having reck up before charge

silent burrow
#

lets you ramp after charge

austere drift
#

alrighty then so just believe me bro is your source gotcha

feral ivy
#

ahhh ty ty

brittle crow
#

plunderstorm

#

week left?

sullen dove
#

yes

brittle crow
#

pls. urgent

#

thank

silent burrow
#

Imma keep it a buck, if anda says to believe him I believe him

sullen dove
#

wowhead post like 2 days ago deadge

#

April 30

brittle crow
#

i cant FIND IT

#

ok

sullen dove
#

lobbies might be dead though so good luck

wild mica
#

I assume plunderstorm will disappear with a reset and if it's still there then it's 1 more week

brittle crow
sullen dove
#

I watched grom try to queue for one at like 11pm last night and he was in a lobby with 4 people for 5 minutes before leaving

#

maybe it was just the time

brittle crow
#

bruh

sullen dove
#

but good luck critcake

brittle crow
#

i always get instant queues xd

clever belfry
#

same buffs yadayada

pallid otter
#

It’s looking like an arms angle this tier right?

olive wraith
#

Ya

sullen dove
#

if u wanna play arms ya

feral ivy
#

so the new rotation is rampage> raging blow>rampage> raging blow> (when bloodthirst hits 100% crit) bloothrist?

robust basin
#

If you're gay, ya

sullen dove
wild mica
#

It's looking like a shadow priest for free 4k io angle

clever belfry
olive wraith
#

Pretty much kratos

clever belfry
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🤯 🤯 🤯

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there u go with logs

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thank yal for answering my questions

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