#fury

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sullen dove
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and fyrakk prolly still one of the most unforgiving endbosses in that regard but i mean if youre ppl know what they're doing it falls over in 1 pull

sick viper
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I mean personally I've never thought a boss was hard for me

sullen dove
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overall tho fyrakk prolly still was too hard even at the end compared to others

modest condor
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i mean yes, but there is also a standard

sick viper
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20 ppl is insane

sullen dove
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yea i think fyr was too far above the "usual"

modest condor
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if you usually get ~1500 guilds with CE, and suddenly there's a tier where less than 1k guilds are on pace to get it, then there's an issue

sullen dove
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yea rn like almost 1200 guilds have it

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compared to last 2 raids was around 1700

modest condor
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yeah and that's after a flood of nerfs

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meanwhile aberrus had comparatively very few nerfs

sullen dove
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but it just started easy cuz they did the raid good

sick viper
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its kinda weird tho that like 100 guilds got the kill this week but the percentage of players that have the achieve is still less than imperator

sullen dove
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aside from echo being dogshit weakaura map boss

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sark was chill i think

cold jolt
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its bc if one person fucks up soaking its usually gg

sullen dove
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yea too many 1 person messes up = insta wipe mechanics in these fights probably. Like i think one or two is MAYBE fine if they're like "you really shouldnt fuck this up" type of thing or something

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but like tindral just threw like 6 of those at you

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just cause it felt like it

sick viper
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I feel like the percent of ppl with the achieve is gonna be lower cuz most guilds just extended lockout for the whole tier

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if u were benched you were basically fucked

sullen dove
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and fyrakk i mean honestly seed holding p3 fyrakk isnt that hard if it was only swirls/blazes you had to deal with, but the randomness/rng of getting a tornado WHILE YOU HOLD A SEED, and having to go out to leave, with a chance that a swirly just spawns under your seed and u cant do anything about it

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that should never happen

cold jolt
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bro

sullen dove
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make seedholders never get tornadoes

cold jolt
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lost ark trynna hit me with the smooth talk

sick viper
left perch
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seed holder getting tornado is actual trolling lmao

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like the line is fine

young swan
left perch
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but tornado? Sheesh

sick viper
sullen dove
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we started to have like 1 backup person near us on first set of seeds if one of us gets a tornado to just pick it up, cuz we'd wipe to random swirls when they go out

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but then sometimes 2 seedholders get tornado at once!

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wow!

sick viper
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roster boss probably fucked over guilds that wanted to reclear too

sullen dove
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idk there should be an opt in mechanism late into the tier

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for guilds like mine and im sure many others

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where you literally say "please give me the mechanics"

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so you can be sure they're done right

modest condor
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man imagine

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bosses would get killed in half the pulls

sullen dove
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cause some ppl just do NOT drop their firestorms in a line

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and group soaks floundering over eachother

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to try and spread out

sick viper
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melee got way more mechanics than they should of this tier

oblique trail
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This raid was honestly more than fine as melee

sullen dove
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ya prolly more cringed for range on like tindral and shit

oblique trail
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If you don't fly, you are AFK on Tindral for example

sick viper
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Im talkin fyrakk mainly

sullen dove
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fyrakk i dont think it rly mattered either way melee prolly rougher time in a pentagram of blazes and swirls under boss

oblique trail
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What's wrong with Fyrakk as melee?

sick viper
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bro I hate getting targeted with wildfire or soaks p1

oblique trail
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Boss placement can make it either fine or awful

sullen dove
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i mean most of the time u should be close enough in range of boss to keep hitting

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but yea

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boss just has to be near drop spots

oblique trail
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If your tanks are good or willing to just listen to placing the boss at a better spot, it's no issue

sick viper
sullen dove
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ya happens

sick viper
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happened way too much for me

sullen dove
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infinity only 6/9m!!! washed!!

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granite nimbus
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im trying to find the new season4 macros

sullen dove
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what kind

sick viper
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Cruel Intention stopped at 800 sadge

granite nimbus
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is there an opener macro?

sullen dove
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dont think theres rly any significant ones other than u can stick avatar and reck into one

granite nimbus
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that uses ravenger, avatar, reck?

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ravager*

sullen dove
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ravager probably should still be its own keybind but av/reck can go together

granite nimbus
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ty

sullen dove
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and then when u want to hit reck with ravager you just hit the avatar one

granite nimbus
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gotcha - any other things i can link up?

sullen dove
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means u kinda have to just trust reck cdr based on ravagers cdr

granite nimbus
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theyre all 1.5 mins right?

sullen dove
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i mean I did use to link reck/rav so its more guaranteed they go together but i think some mathy ppl in here got madge that you lose 1 global in avatar or something on throwing ravager

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reck/rav will be lower than 1.5 with anger management, but they get the same cdr so they're always used together

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avatar is the only real 1.5min

sick viper
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p3 is still the best phase all in all tho

sullen dove
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(and spear and roar i guess)

granite nimbus
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im trying to figure out the S4 aoe rotation i dont get why you would prioritize rampage etc over just whirlwind spamming

oblique trail
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Because WW does no damage

sullen dove
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cause cleaving rampage does a lot more damage

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yeah

oblique trail
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It's there to enable cleaving

granite nimbus
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gotcha so just maintain 4 stacks?

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and hit the other shit

sullen dove
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pretty much

oblique trail
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You don't maintain 4 stacks

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You WW, use 3-4 stacks, then WW again

sullen dove
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well, reapply after stacks are gone yea assumed thats what that meant

granite nimbus
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yeah just make sure its active

sullen dove
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yuh

granite nimbus
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and the aoe talents dont ever get bloodthirst to the 100% crit on the weakaura compared to the single target talents right?

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mine seems to max out at 54 ish

sullen dove
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your bt goes to 100% crit from hitting rampage

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and then when its at or near 100 you hit it

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same in st and aoe

granite nimbus
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❤️

sullen dove
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you can cleave it with whirlwind stacks in aoe and would want to

granite nimbus
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gotcha so when im close to 100 hit WW then BT

sullen dove
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yea, or if you already have ww stacks up you dont necessarily have to hit it right before

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just make sure youre enraged basically which should be effectively guaranteed with onslaught node

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almost impossible to drop it

granite nimbus
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and do you tie your trinket to anything

sullen dove
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eh i mean depends what your trinket is

granite nimbus
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im using might of the ocean atm

sullen dove
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yea might would just go with avatar probably

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can also be macroed if u want i think

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but next season wont have might

granite nimbus
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so reck, avatar and trinket together

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for now

sullen dove
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well, that is what you would do next season, currently you dont put reck and avatar together

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to do the funny odyns fury opener

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but if you were using s2/s4 talents yeah they can go together

modest condor
granite nimbus
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im messing with all my shit in prep for s4 - old habits die slow so working on the new rotation

sullen dove
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ok if ur just trying out talents then sure

granite nimbus
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yeah im not using it so 54 is as high as i can get i guess until i get the new tierset

sullen dove
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thats 54 with reck i assume so just 34% base crit?

granite nimbus
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yeah

sullen dove
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seems a bit high but whatever u dont gotta worry about the crit% of bt rn

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youll just get stacks with the set and just hit it when it goes kaching 😄

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like in s2 ppl usually only had around 20% crit

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likely gonna be more this time cause we just have about 80 ilvls worth of more secondaries

modest condor
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also half our items will have crit on them and we cant do anything about it

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legendary? crit, ashkandur? crit, eranog ring? crit

granite nimbus
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yeah i mean im 480 and have been focused all season on ilvl mostly

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taking upgrades etc

sullen dove
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ye thats generally fine approach, if you want to try and be a bit more optimal in your gear once you reach a decently high ilvl and start getting items at the same ilvl but different stats u might want to try simming

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cause it'll tell you things like what items in your bags would be the best for your damage

granite nimbus
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yeah exactly, just didnt get there this season, started a little late unfort

sullen dove
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like just face value if you say you have 34% crit i'd say thats maybe a "little" high but prolly not that bad

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i got around 30ish so its probably fine enough

granite nimbus
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i came back to this expansion from wrath so everything was kinda freaky

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shit got a little wilder

sullen dove
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yea would assume big shift there

hardy cargo
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as someone who played retail before playing wrath and killing LK first time like a week ago

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yeah its a

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little bit different 🙂

sullen dove
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just a tad

modest condor
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itty bitty

granite nimbus
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haha its very different

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i mained warrior in classic, bc and wrath then took a break and came back to dragonriding??

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the fuck is that stuff

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and simming??

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guys..

sullen dove
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dragonriding very epic and cool flight system

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simming is a bit more of the degenerate minmaxing strats used tho for sure

granite nimbus
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took a second to get used to for sure

olive wraith
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100% armor pen days

sullen dove
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not just a "get this item, thats it go have fun =D"

hardy cargo
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hell people sim in wrath and classic era now as well

granite nimbus
hardy cargo
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but raidbots is a lot more put together and easier to understand than the wrath and sod/era sims

storm rune
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Boy don't I miss having to input each individual item into an excel spreadsheet to sim my dps

modest condor
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i remember downloading simcraft back in cata and only using it like twice

indigo quarry
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raidbots is such an awesome tool

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no more download, fast and cool feature

eternal sundial
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just gear 40 40 10 10

indigo quarry
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and in legion you had to download a new simc version and do your own sim and see what got best

cold jolt
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i remember

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😭

storm rune
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Still beats the spreadsheets

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But yeah raidbots is such a game changer

quiet oak
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fated raids opening the first week or second week of the new patch?

hardy cargo
oblique trail
modest condor
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i remember finding a spreadsheet one time and ahving no clue what i was looking at or how to use it

quiet oak
eternal sundial
left perch
storm rune
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a stone calculator could sim classic tbf

storm rune
left perch
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the glory days

storm rune
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We tried back in the day but we were never gonna land a server first on Area 52 lol

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We merged like 3 alliance guilds over the course of an expac and still couldn't keep up with Vicarious

shell terrace
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@slim coral how did ur old guild feel when u left

left perch
slim coral
left perch
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US 80 or whatever was also not that good

eternal sundial
left perch
indigo quarry
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Liquid should still advertise as #1 US

eternal sundial
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I dont think they will need to tell ppl applying what wr they are

left perch
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they should advertise “we stopped clicking extra action button we promise”

shell terrace
eternal sundial
slim coral
left perch
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and didn’t drop it

eternal sundial
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Firedup would never

left perch
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like the mouse just barely missed it

slim coral
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only reason I stayed until we killed tindral was bc gm asked me too

indigo quarry
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would be a first if its Firedup messing up

left perch
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was on their like 1% a few pulls before Echo

covert blaze
indigo quarry
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he is clutch master

slim coral
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firedup the goat

covert blaze
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clicking in rwf

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unreal

eternal sundial
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So based

indigo quarry
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healers cant do normal shit without all their addon

slim coral
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clicking doesnt really mean anything lol

left perch
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such a funny clip

indigo quarry
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thats why he didnt had the extra button bound

covert blaze
left perch
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yea healers use mouse a lot so

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that kinda makes sense

eternal sundial
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It does Mr lego on 8

storm rune
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My fav was that evoker that breath'd directly into a whirlwind at 1%

dapper goblet
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the clip where he's trying to click was someone elses seed blowing up btw

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just gunna clear that up

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(i also click my extra action button)

left perch
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xeos you weren’t there

slim coral
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same

left perch
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you don’t know

dapper goblet
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roger

eternal sundial
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🧑‍🌾

indigo quarry
sullen dove
fleet sorrel
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(Wasn’t even firedup)

sullen dove
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they woulda but someone else blew up earlier

left perch
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Swordfish you don’t know

sullen dove
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still funny clip

left perch
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you weren’t there

sullen dove
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sorry

covert blaze
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doesn't change the fact that clicking is dogwater player behavior

left perch
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My uncle works at blizzard and he was watching that raid

sullen dove
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real!

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i have the credentials of holding a seed the longest on my kill!

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therefore i am better than nickpriest!

slim coral
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@shell terrace do you push keys

shell terrace
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No im retired

slim coral
hardy cargo
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aw I got automodded 😦

covert blaze
hardy cargo
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wasnt even bad either

sullen dove
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skill issue

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typed singular of cocks

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get fucked

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eyir cocks

lean geyserBOT
dapper goblet
covert blaze
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but still true

sullen dove
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can you believe this guy

cold jolt
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Unreal

covert blaze
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fentmaxxer

dapper goblet
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mald

sick viper
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methmaxxer

frail cave
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So the changes to fury talent tree live vs this alpha build.... I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not

dawn pivot
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will the awakened mythic raids be as hard as the current mythic raids?

oblique trail
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They wont be

dawn pivot
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why not

oblique trail
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Because they work on a 1 week rotation, on top of some having been nerfed further

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They're also not meant to be challenging, just content to do while there's downtime

oblique trail
warm crag
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might be harder in week 1 if youre in a noober guild or just cant be bothered to actually prog

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going off of how it was in shadowlands

sullen dove
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i mean it just will be harder probably with low ilvl

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first week or 2

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but once at the "mythic ilvl" range it should be a lot easier

storm rune
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I'm still assuming bare minimum nobody is gonna be pugging it beyond the first halves

olive wraith
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I’m pretty sure I pugged full normal week 1 s3

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With it being an old raid I’m sure heroic won’t be too much of a stretch

warm crag
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you mean s4 or

left perch
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I thought normal was only pugged

sullen dove
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what

olive wraith
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Pugging heroic shouldn’t be too bad since it’s a repeat raid is all

indigo quarry
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you overestimate people ability to not be dog

oblique trail
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Considering the topic was mythic, I assume they mean almost no one is gonna be pugging past the first few bosses on mythic

sick viper
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the bosses are probably not gonna be as hard as they were but not as easy as they should be

oblique trail
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For pugs they might be rough on the first week

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But by second week, assuming the group has done just some content, it should be a breeze

olive wraith
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I just figured no one pugs mythic that early anyways

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Good news is we get one more week of t31 boys

frail cave
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i wish people wouldnt gatekeep entry into mythic so late in the season

sick viper
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I remember I tried to join a CE guild during fated but they were legit too dogshit to get past 5 five bosses from SoD and sep

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"Jailer washed us man"

frail cave
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"must have mythic xp"
but i need to do mythic to get exp

sick viper
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pretty sure this tier killed their guild

warm crag
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decent CE guild should let you play w/ low mythic experience unless they're full garbanzo and not worth being in

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thats what trials are for

sullen dove
warm crag
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or you look like complete garbanzo idk

oblique trail
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If you have a high blue/low purp average, and median, you're usually in the clear for a lot of mythic guilds

sullen dove
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what about half purp half orange/pink gladge

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surely app to liquid

warm crag
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if ur not pink avg perf ur a noob

cold jolt
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app to liquid right NOW

sullen dove
oblique trail
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Spongie noob pov

cold jolt
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its of utmost EMERGENCY

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SEND IT !!!

warm crag
sick viper
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bro someone started malding over the fact I got CE with green/gray parses

hardy cargo
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what if im colorblind? idk what color 0 is but its the first number so its good right!?

sick viper
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shit was funny

sullen dove
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i mean idk i got 5 grays and 4 greens on my kill

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its kinda baffling tho

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like u dont need everyone doing purples to kill a boss obviously but like

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if u gonna try to get CE know how to do damage like 🤦

sick viper
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I have like 1 kill for most of my fights lol

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I've only killed gnarl and Igira like 2 times

warm crag
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what how

brittle crow
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😔

sick viper
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If I did a reclear rn I'd probably get blues and purples

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still havent killed smold sadgers

warm crag
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did you not prog the tier or did your guild get to smold and then lock the lockout for the entire tier

sullen dove
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boss damage avg performance higher than damage avg performance gladge

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so ethical

sick viper
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I didnt start doing mythic until crossrealm was available

hardy cargo
sick viper
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and by the time crossrealm was available if your guild was still stuck on smold they're probably gonna stay there lol

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I remember askin yall for advice on the matter and I was told "just find a guild that's getting rosterbossed on tindral or fyrakk"

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so I did n now im here

sullen dove
sick viper
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so glad it worked out cuz it almost didnt

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if we didnt add an extra day this week it was joever

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kinda ridiculous how many guilds are putting in overtime to kill the boss

warm crag
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race to world last is quite the big deal

hardy cargo
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friend of mine, his guild went to put in an extra day and they had dcs so it got ruined

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they couldve had ce too it rly sucked for them

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I think their best pull was like 10% or maybe 15 but it was final stretch

sick viper
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killing fyrakk is huge group rng

hardy cargo
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yeah supposedly they had already replaced half of the raid team too its insane

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if they can just keep a consistent 20 theyll do really well

sick viper
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its wild how some groups do decent on tindral then somehow do way worse on fyrakk

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like we killed tindral a lil later than most but somehow had way less pulls on fyrakk than grps who did way better on tindral than we did

storm rune
oblique trail
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Sounds like a guild you wouldn't want to be in, to begin with

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If the people you play with are that flaky

sick viper
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getting into decent guilds is easier said than done

oblique trail
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It is, but it doesn't mean you should stay in a place that doesn't value your time either

sick viper
sullen dove
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kek nice

sick viper
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boss died right when it happened

sullen dove
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but yea i mean honestly even tho its not necessary it does rly irk me when people just clearly are not trying as hard as others in the doing damage part

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and i mean i dont even know how to help them, cause while im sure i used to also be that kinda "hit buttons what happens happens" person i just dont know how ppl cant at least try to perform at like a blue parse lvl idk, maybe its diff for different classes

sick viper
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when did u guys lust?

oblique trail
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Most lust after 1st roar

sick viper
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we did it after 2nd

sullen dove
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but feeling like I have to curb my chance at a better parse just to omegagiga focus boss damage and there are people doing actually 50k less boss dps than me in the raid

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yea we did after first too, cuz thats when we sorta decided we'd get the most boss dmg cuz we were still unpracticed in the fight, but towards the end we stopped having to put as many cds on shield and a lot more of us me included had cds up for instant pot on p2, so it probably wouldve been "ok" to lust right on p2 drop

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but either way idk just anywhere around the end is fine prolly

sick viper
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Is it just me or do ppl play worse when there's augs

sullen dove
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idk man i think aug is so shit in raids

modest condor
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not me, i always play bad

sullen dove
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they are always at the bottom of the meters on every pull and kill without question

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ik like logs arent always 100% accurate

sick viper
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I feel like my dps actually got worse when we added another aug

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like it plays a mindtrick on me or sumthn

sullen dove
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but aside from the utility they provide (which dev can do most of) except for paradox to healers, i think if we didnt have 2 augs and had 2 of any other spec boss could die like 20 seconds sooner

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cause NO aug is gonna try to actually anda brain pulls presciencing the right people in their cds

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they just throw it on the generally top dps and just let it rip

sick viper
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is there a way to filter out aug dmg in details?

sullen dove
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not really

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i think details has a thing that if u hover over augs you can see how much damage they mightve done

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idk how accurate that is

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but i dont think u can just make your "real damage" show

sick viper
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damn thats so ass

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I used rezan instead of might for boss dmg but I guess thats prolly not why I got a 31% green parse

sullen dove
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did u kill da boss?

sick viper
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ya

sullen dove
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zamn

covert blaze
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99 surely

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i replied to the wrong message xdd

sullen dove
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xdd

sick viper
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I got a 42% for boss dmg

oblique trail
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At the end of the day, the boss died

sick viper
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yup super glad about that

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made it out of Amirdrassil prison

slim coral
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yeah in prog all that matters is that the boss died

oblique trail
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There might still be a tiny bit of tomfoolery with Augs on logs, but at this point it should be pretty good

covert blaze
oblique trail
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(Depending on your class at least, some might have it worse still)

covert blaze
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just use the fight back macro

oblique trail
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I have it made, just haven't used it yet

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Although I might have to soon

sick viper
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if I didnt get CE this tier I wouldve inted hard

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prolly say some mean things

sullen dove
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the schizoposting in here wouldve gone crazy

covert blaze
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you were talking about fyrakkus?

sullen dove
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"this is why retail is dogshit"

covert blaze
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grats

sullen dove
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zhai when cute ass pfp

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just changed

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wtf

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send image please

sick viper
sullen dove
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oh yeah you did say that

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grats....

covert blaze
sick viper
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loot council be damned lmao

sullen dove
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reze 💯

sick viper
sullen dove
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also respectable

covert blaze
sick viper
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too much shame

sullen dove
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i mean

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me too maybe

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or if not that then i make the excuse it was my guilds fault and jump ship

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but not keen on doin that anymore for the moment

sick viper
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I started spamming applications after @half cargo said "I doubt youre getting CE"

past cedar
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What is our best personal food/wep rune

sullen dove
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usually hissing rune for mastery

sick viper
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I actually got an offer the day before we killed which was pretty stoopid

past cedar
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what about food?

sullen dove
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and either like deviled eggs primary stat or recently ppl also been leaning towards Great Cerulean Sea for verse/mast

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the difference probably isnt that significant but u should be able to sim both

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in the like consumables section of raidbots

past cedar
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Aight tyty

sullen dove
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whichevers cheaper honestly

past cedar
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The same goes for arms? or is it a different story

sullen dove
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arms i think howling rune

covert blaze
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keep in mind stats are gonna change with s4 set

sullen dove
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at least was mostly used last season, but haste generally good for arms

sick viper
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this was my first CE btw

sullen dove
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might also use crit but again just try simmin both if u particularly care

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and doubt they want verse/mast food but if theres some crit/haste one thats prolly good

sullen dove
sick viper
sullen dove
#

do think this one is prolly the hardest of the i think 5 i have

#

i mean yea sark still had problems of relying on certain people to do very specific jobs

#

but its also like 7 and a half minutes long

covert blaze
#

@sick viper only up from here, last 2 fights in this tier are dog

sullen dove
#

so shorter fight also easier

covert blaze
#

(not talking about relative difficulty )

sick viper
#

I probably could've gotten it in the earlier tiers but usually I stop playing because of other games that are way more enjoyable

hasty path
#

Fyrakk requires more

sick viper
#

like last tier BG3 completely destroyed any desire for me to get CE

sullen dove
#

yea

#

i mean i think bomb holders have about the same amount of responsibility as seedholders, and i think bombs are more difficult than seeds

#

but seeds depend on the rest of the raid also not being shit

#

where u didnt rly care what other ppl were doing on bombs

#

so like bomb ppl have to be better, but only they do

covert blaze
#

yeah big true
some bosses you just assign good players on good classes for the jobs

sick viper
#

I got back into the game towards the end of Sepulcher

covert blaze
#

when everyone has to do jobs then you have little timmy dying to the same thing 300 pulls in

sick viper
#

one of the worst tiers to have a little timmy

sullen dove
#

i had like 5 little timmies

fluid cedar
#

what are yall speculating to be bis trinks S4

summer quail
#

Augery/signet st

sick viper
#

most of my grp was little timmies lmao

#

even the healers

brittle crow
#

you guys dont know what a little timmy is if you progged past 4/9

#

like my guild didnt

fluid cedar
#

think puzzle box will be competitive?

sick viper
#

our seedmen were pretty fuckin good tho ngl

covert blaze
#

nothing out of the ordinary

sick viper
#

most of the time our adds got blazed it was cuz of a healer

covert blaze
#

blaze owns your healers

sick viper
#

they also constantly died on rends shit was so stupid

sick viper
covert blaze
#

can't wait for race to world last on monday

sick viper
sullen dove
sick viper
#

dude the guy streaming their pulls has the thousand yard stare

summer quail
#

i've watched alot of their prog

#

I would lose my mind in that guild

sick viper
covert blaze
sick viper
#

he kept trying to give them advice lol

summer quail
#

they just place everything in the worst possible ways, the way they do the mythic soaks are so bad. to say they are inconsistent is an understatement

sick viper
#

and it was basic shit like "you gotta move dude"

#

their dmg is super dogshit

covert blaze
sullen dove
#

if all thats going on

summer quail
sullen dove
#

then i think those are the ppl that probably are on the cusp of shouldnt be allowed to get ce

sick viper
sullen dove
#

but idk this boss is still cocks

summer quail
sick viper
#

their dmg is so turboshit but theyre playing 3 seeds

#

like honestly just play 4th seed if its that bad

hasty path
sullen dove
#

i mean u can live a roar without a seed if u stack everything

sick viper
#

I mean 4th roar is rlly ez to live thru

hasty path
#

These guilds either don’t realize or don’t accept that even if they play these strats perfectly they are doing significantly less damage than the good guilds who use them

#

I mean you can

#

But like

#

It doesn’t really make the fight much easier

sick viper
#

ya if u got spirit link, amz, darkness + rally it kills nobody

sullen dove
#

spirit link 💀

summer quail
hasty path
sick viper
hasty path
#

i mean sure it can

#

i just don't understand why all these low end guilds are doing these strats

sick viper
#

it does make the rest of p3 shitty

hasty path
#

it doesn't seem like it actually benefits them

#

guild i know is lusting and potting on pull so they can beat the 2nd dreamrend

#

and im like why

sick viper
#

p3 is the one phase u can manage to get through with turbotards as long as you have a solid plan

sullen dove
#

i feel for those kinds of guilds its even worse to just have 1 extra seed to possibly wipe them

sullen dove
hasty path
sick viper
#

most fun phase tbh

hasty path
#

not for me bro

#

thankfully we stopped reclears a while ago

#

because nobody cared

sick viper
#

p1 looks so fuckin stupid with how you play dreamrend

hasty path
#

but man our strat put me through the ringer as brew

#

8x tankbusters critcake

sick viper
#

like dragging the boss along the wall looks so goofy

#

honestly the only cool thing about p1 is the clones

hasty path
#

didnt even realize it's already been close to a month

#

since i killed it last

sick viper
#

p1 and p2 couldve been merged imo

sullen dove
sick viper
#

now thats just terrible

#

dispels are the worst thing about the boss str8 bad game design

sick viper
hasty path
#

and then have been going 6/9 on reclears keks

#

"do we wanna do smolderon this week guys"
"Nahhhhh"

sick viper
#

pretty sure reclears only exist for like guilds above 600

dapper goblet
#

reclear every week

sullen dove
sick viper
dapper goblet
#

voodoo works in mysterious ways

sullen dove
sick viper
#

I asked General Butt Naked to bless my raid

sullen dove
#

?

sick viper
sullen dove
#

ic

sick viper
#

he legit was a former warlord btw

#

like irl warrior

hasty path
#

Lol

#

My guild just doesn’t like reclearing/doesn’t care that much for it

sick viper
#

they should give guilds a dmg + health buff after 1st kill

#

determination stacks

#

like raiding is tedious asf

sullen dove
#

this shit goes insane

cold jolt
#

lasty

#

wfl

sick viper
#

bro did u get a compiler error

#

idk wtf u sayin

cold jolt
#

world race last

covert blaze
#

Bomani pressing random keys

cold jolt
#

i lvoe random keyus

covert blaze
sick viper
#

boman Im curious

#

are u on adderall

cold jolt
#

no im on concerta

#

a diff adhd drug

sick viper
#

I could tell when I watched your streams

cold jolt
#

ya i got hella adhd

sick viper
#

cuz I've keyboard smashed like that on addy lmfao

cold jolt
#

im just really tired rn

#

is all

#

im abnormally tired

#

but its 10 pm cant slepe

sick viper
#

no like I heard how you pressed your buttons stream

cold jolt
#

there was a centipede o nmy bed this morning

#

oooo

#

ya i just slam

#

im basically all might

#

at his peak fr

left perch
#

no shot you can do United States of Delaware smash

cold jolt
#

wait

#

does he delware

#

i thought he says

#

UNITED STATES OF SMASH

left perch
#

I think it’s midoriya does Delaware

cold jolt
#

ooo later on

#

yeah

left perch
#

idk the recap episode I was zzzz

cold jolt
#

im rewtaching with my gf rn

#

we are on s4

left perch
#

hell yea

cold jolt
#

so deku is pretty like

#

like hes strong , good enough to be a "pro" hero

#

but hes not like s6 strong yet

#

im pretty sure, and i could be wrong

#

the last one he used was united states of smash

left perch
#

I think in the recap episode

cold jolt
#

eyah i was right

left perch
#

He does a delware, and THEN does IS?

#

US

cold jolt
#

i think he fake outs yeha

sullen dove
cold jolt
#

and thenuses all of his

#

power int ohis fight

#

fist

left perch
#

yea

cold jolt
#

and that was it for both of them

#

probably the coolest part of anime to me ngl

sullen dove
#

only all might has done united states of smashes

#

deku does random states and cities

cold jolt
#

we've only seen 1 so far

sullen dove
#

like delaware, manchester, st louis

cold jolt
#

well yes

#

united states

#

signifies its all of his power

left perch
#

lmao that is one of my favorite parts

sullen dove
#

yea but i dont think he done any US's yet

cold jolt
#

i dont think deku has used in the anime all of his power yet

left perch
#

just low key ranking American cities

cold jolt
#

oh yeahj i agree

#

he ahsnt

sullen dove
#

not in anime absolutely not

left perch
#

in terms of power

cold jolt
#

i agree

sullen dove
#

manga is kinda wicked though

cold jolt
#

im saying

#

yeah

#

in anime he hasnt yet

#

but we do literally see him at the start

#

episode 2

sick viper
#

manga has good artstyle

cold jolt
#

"this is the story of how i became the worlds greatest hero"

sullen dove
#

ya

#

we love flashback story moments

cold jolt
#

we can justy assume deku is a god

#

by the end

left perch
#

yea but he’s prolly no Saitama or Overlord

cold jolt
#

thats diff tho

#

saitama would cream anyone

#

bc thjats how the anime works

sullen dove
#

?

left perch
#

Ains Ooal Gown

cold jolt
#

any anime that isnt dragon ball

left perch
#

would maybe wreck Saitama

cold jolt
#

itachi dead to saitama

sick viper
#

I stopped at some point during the final battle thats still goin on

cold jolt
#

tsunade dead

#

any demon slayer chracter

#

dead

left perch
#

anime yapping tho, sorry furry chat

cold jolt
#

ehs just made to not lose

sick viper
#

from what I heard mha is goin through its 4th ninja war arc rn

left perch
cold jolt
#

thtas the whole point

#

in the manga its full steam

#

anime its starting ish

#

like kind of not really

#

u can tell tho

static isle
#

With S3 tier set coming back into play, where does Fury stand in comparison to others?

#

S2

sullen dove
#

apparently averageish in raid

#

but pretty good m+ i think

#

dont exactly know how most other classes are doin on those fronts other than like dev/outlaw/arms etc are kinda broken

left perch
#

Fury’s identity seems to be “mid or lower in raids, but really tanky and fast paced rotation”

frank dawn
#

Our single target damage is not good

sudden tusk
#

and it doesnt reward you with damage with current tuning

sullen dove
#

holy madox xeos

#

enough power to combat xeos naysaying

dapper goblet
#

noobs

sullen dove
#

blue man speaking

sudden tusk
#

One thing im worried about Mountain Thane in Single Target is like the S2 talent setup where your AoE is tuned around your single target so its hard to balance

#

Xeos is brown i think now

sullen dove
sudden tusk
#

unless he changes his mind in 3 days

#

also i dont remember if i said but gz on ce swordman

sullen dove
#

thanks pookie gladge

sudden tusk
dapper goblet
#

perhap brown

sullen dove
#

4 weeks of fyrakk remaining easy surely get mount

dapper goblet
#

only fun time to play war

sullen dove
#

arms will be fun this is correct

dapper goblet
#

dam doesnt always = fun...

sullen dove
#

maybe if you dont have to worry about dam constantly...

sudden tusk
#

S2 playstyle is good, but its numbies are not great atm

sullen dove
#

it is eternal struggle with my compatriots...

sick viper
sudden tusk
#

thats why xeos plays with gamers

#

gamers = fun

sullen dove
#

true...

#

soon...

sudden tusk
#

oh? swordman new guild?

sullen dove
#

no but like eventually..

sick viper
#

I can't wait for the day I dont have to raid on a schedule to get CE

dapper goblet
#

who doesnt raid on a schedule that gets ce

sullen dove
#

ya wut

sick viper
#

nah I hate that shit

hardy cargo
#

sounds like you hate not having CE more

sick viper
#

nah im just antisocial

#

but yea

sullen dove
#

what does not raiding on a schedule mean

#

like u just walk in whenever you want and kill boss

sick viper
#

yup

sullen dove
#

yea

#

noone does that

sick viper
#

yea because raid id

sullen dove
#

because you still need to schedule 20 people to show up

#

at the same time

#

to work towards a common goal

#

you will NEVER be able to pug CE in this game

#

thats almost guaranteed

sick viper
#

im saying id like to play with whoever I want when I want

sullen dove
#

like play with a friend guild or something in the same week as main guild?

#

more reasonable take

#

prolly should abolish raid ids for things like that

#

but like, everybody raids on a schedule

sick viper
#

like as soon as I get CE I dip for the season

sullen dove
#

uh i mean

final birch
#

play in echo, dip early

sullen dove
#

you can... arrange that with your guild

hardy cargo
#

I feel like thats not insane to dip after CE

sullen dove
#

or whatever "dip early" means

hardy cargo
#

as long as u get ce for the bench people too

sullen dove
#

if u mean play with other guild or just stop playing

hardy cargo
#

every season pretty much as soon as we get CE we take a vote to see if people want to reclear, or get bench ppl CE then take a break until next szn

sullen dove
#

check me out

#

im the size of a summer ant

sick viper
hardy cargo
sullen dove
#

holy peepoBlush

sudden tusk
#

anyone else having issues logging into battlenet

#

i cant play overwatch

sick viper
#

bro some of these world last guilds are dropping 3 seeds instead of 2

sudden tusk
#

you can send god on defensives and live the roar

#

you cant send god on someone blowing a seed up

sick viper
#

yea but like they're not doin enough damage to skip 4th roar

sullen dove
#

just live it again xan

sullen dove
sudden tusk
#

been stuck like this for an hour

#

resetti router maybe

sullen dove
sudden tusk
#

reset router still bricked

#

its over

sullen dove
#

joever

left perch
#

joewari da

dapper goblet
#

winton

sullen dove
#

winton

sudden tusk
#

monke

#

oh something must be wrong with battlenet itself

#

the website wont even load

sullen dove
#

damn

#

bro got banned

#

thats crazy

#

guess infinity needs a new trial

#

some1 hit bazed up

sick viper
#

Bomani deserves it more

sullen dove
#

tru

sick viper
cold jolt
#

Still catching strays even while trying to falls alseep but I’m paralyzed in fear by the centipede in my bed 14 hours ago

#

Joever

#

🧎‍♂️

#

My life is ruled by this centípede now

#

I submit

sullen dove
#

centipede owns bomani

#

heard it here first folks

cold jolt
#

Mogged by a centípede likely on the side of my bed somewhere, I will literally explode if it crawls onto my bed when I wake up

left perch
#

good news is usually they don’t come back

#

like lil bro prolly just left and isn’t sitting there waiting for you to sleep. he’s finding some dark damp place

dapper goblet
#

hope it comes back

#

with friends

left perch
#

that also is very likely, I’m not a big scientist so I was making it up earlier

#

Bugology?

sudden tusk
sullen dove
#

stickbugg

sick viper
#

just have a spider in the house

#

they eat all da bugz

sudden tusk
sullen dove
#

bro has a bedtime

#

just ruin your life and stay up till 6

sudden tusk
#

cant ruin my sleep with S4 on the come up

sullen dove
#

i got winton finally

#

thats like in 3 days

sudden tusk
#

how am i supposed to slam 16 hours of mythic plus day one if im not rested

sullen dove
#

the wintons arent going to acquire themselves

#

mr ox

cyan star
sudden tusk
sullen dove
#

the wha

sudden tusk
#

anytime i see elmo and coke all i think of is the Dreamkazper elmo meme where he has to decide between being a pedophile and pro player

sick viper
sudden tusk
#

have the first 4 seasons

#

when overwatch was good

#

anyway bedge

sullen dove
cold jolt
#

I woke up and broke free from my chains..

IMG_7356.jpg
sullen dove
#

2 hour sleep? critcake

cold jolt
#

Im going back to bed

#

But this monster was on the wall

#

My enslaver

fallen ginkgo
#

Guys guys guys, random question: Which race do you think should not be able to play as warrior?

flat river
#

And Goblin

#

And Vulpera/Mecha-Gnome

eternal sundial
#

gnome is the best race for war in pvp btw keks

fallen ginkgo
#

what do you think about dwarfs? for me they are more bound to nature which doesnt really feel warrior-like. and ofc all of those small character model should not be a warrior imo

eternal sundial
#

do you consume any fantasy media at all

fallen ginkgo
#

no keks

eternal sundial
#

read (or watch) lord of the rings then and lemme know if their dwarves should be warriors or not

fallen ginkgo
#

hmmm

#

good point actually

eternal sundial
#

if dwarf shouldnt be allowed then human neither bedge

merry jetty
fallen ginkgo
#

i dont get what you trying to say, i am sorry

eternal sundial
#

dwarves are a very warrior-pilled race

fallen ginkgo
#

but you could make this argument for every race

eternal sundial
#

just like every race has a good argument for having warriors

fallen ginkgo
#

i am bored and have to much time, sry

eternal sundial
#

watch lotr

#

good use of 10h if you have the extended edition

fallen ginkgo
#

watching anime rn

quiet python
#

can someone explain how my 483 rezan sim better then 489 ocean

eternal sundial
#

ocean doesnt have mainstat

quiet python
#

fair enough

#

didnt notic

eternal sundial
#

though in aoe might is better anyways

#

and for like smolderon / igira / tindral (frank idk tbh)

quiet python
#

gotcha

eternal sundial
#

also shorter kills favor might

#

but you usually replace brand with it

#

and keep augury on

quiet python
#

i do have brand so maybe brand + rezan is still solid

vivid tusk
thick fossil
velvet pelican
#

WOTOFOK?!?!?!

clever belfry
#

tier lists

#

L

indigo quarry
#

who's the bozo doing tier list still ?

#

so i can ignore him on every social media

brazen frost
#

Peettko

eternal sundial
#

mentally ill

indigo quarry
#

reporting him for lazy useless content

velvet pelican
final birch
#

Avg tier list

#

Classic

#

Also bm above arms

#

Not like we had bms blasting early on till they cant survive the content

eternal sundial
#

or till they fix another bug

sour frigate
#

only afli is truege

#

😦

eternal sundial
#

bro forgot sp

final birch
#

sp is ssssssss

clever belfry
#

would stretch the tier list too much

final birch
#

yaya

#

its brutal

covert void
#

wait, are we arms boys this season then? 👀

dense elbow
#

I ain't, but if you going HoF then you likely should do so

raw shuttle
#

do we know which spec gonna be better for fated season?

eternal sundial
eternal sundial
#

Fated mythic only matters for the portals

dense elbow
#

So you telling me - noone can or will be going for HoF? huh, seems like noone should think about that then

fleet cargo
#

@modest condor these dudes talk shit about s4 fury getting on my nerves

ashen socket
fleet cargo
#

How can you be so blind

warm crag
#

@oblique trail time them out

oblique trail
clever belfry
clever belfry
#

i will call the police

ashen socket
#

that is

#

such a gross thing to say

#

why would you say that

#

Thats vile

clever belfry
#

its truely king shit trust me

modest condor
#

what ilvl will that drop, normal raid?

brittle crow
#

is there any way to skip the 10 minutes of setting up addons on a new toon

#

why cant i just have stuff on certain profiles by default

steep fable
#

At least the normal raid might drop tier, m0 still useless unless it is an expansion pre-patch

#

Even then, it goes away as soon as m+ opens

clever belfry
#

theyre aiming for m0 to be +2-+10 in one essentially

#

and half the playerbase has not completed all +10s

steep fable
#

I guess I am bad enough at some of my alts to try m0 first keks

abstract cairn
#

Should this line from the apl:
actions.single_target+=/bloodbath,if=set_bonus.tier31_2pc
be tier31_4pc? instead?

oblique trail
#

No, because the priority does not swap based on having 2p or 4p

modest condor
#

bloodbath is still your strongest builder even without 4p

abstract cairn
#

I can't see the relevance of the 2pc though

modest condor
#

2pc is when you swap to annihilator

abstract cairn
#

hmmmm, i can't quite see it

modest condor
#

if you dont have tierset but still play RA it's possible you would be playing a raging blow based build

#

then BB would not be that high prio

#

or rather it's not even just possible, it's most likely true

abstract cairn
#

would it be the same (or clearer) as:
actions.single_target+=/bloodbath,if=talent.annihilator ?

modest condor
#

sure that would probably have the same end result

#

but the line only got added when we were working on the t31 apl

#

and at that point basing things off of what tierset you were using made more sense

abstract cairn
#

ah OK, just got confused reading it

#

thanks

edgy widget
digital wadi
#

Is this the tier 2 talents?

image.png
#

for m+

willow cradle
#

Not exactly

clever belfry
#

spear 💀

willow cradle
#

Roar is pretty much universally better then spear in M+

modest condor
#

drop massacre and aj for cshb and bloodborne as well

digital wadi
#

ok so only that?

#

ok'

modest condor
#

swap fresh meat with improved bt

digital wadi
#

Was looking at old wowhead page

modest condor
#

you must have been looking at a season 1 build

digital wadi
#

Oh

#

oh ur right

#

lol

fathom valley
#

Arms looking nice but since this season is a for fun season without HoF I'll just play fury unless we are absolute dog

covert blaze
tender seal
#

Is there somewhere we can see s4 sims for all classes?

#

someones gotta have a sheet somewhere

olive wraith
#

Fury probably fine for m+

#

But arms is just so much better at aoe

edgy widget
serene moat
#

will it still take 7 week until all 3 raids are awakened?

edgy widget
#

as far as has been stated, yes

modest copper
#

hey guys starting grinding a few weeks ago after a break. Currently have no s3 crafts. Should I craft now or wait for new szn?

mental rune
#

just wait

wanton mirage
#

Raider IO mocking me

sullen dove
atomic yarrow
#

any idea when to expect s4 wowhead guides?

sullen dove
#

proly like a day or two

wild mica
#

i wonder if there will be some last minute tuning copium

summer quail
#

yes, 3% arms buff

modest condor
wanton mirage
#

if Mutou is right, It would be arms in my RIO one trick warrior S4

summer quail
#

nah i'm just memeing. arms seeing no changes is insanely good for arms

hardy cargo
hard relic
sullen dove
#

nowhere it said week 4 its full awakened

#

itll just probably rotate 1, 2, 3 twice

hard relic
#

Oh

hasty path
wanton mirage
#

they are just jaelous

sick viper
#

yo what class should I lvl boost next

young swan
#

just wait for mop

#

waste of gold

#

or dollars

sick viper
#

nah its the preorder bonus

young swan
#

ah

#

ww monk

sick viper
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is it that fun?

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it will be next xpac

sick viper
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I was thinking pally

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or in prepatch

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idk antorus monk was one of the most enjoyable specs ive ever played

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and this rework is basically just antorus monk but with more stuff

sick viper
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I thought the hero talents were hit or miss for ww

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nah they're both pretty good from what I've seen

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shado-pan got quite a few changes

hasty path
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It’s also getting reworked beyond just that

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also we only saw the hero talents without seeing the rework

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with the rework they look sick

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they also solved haste being a non-existent stat for ww

covert blaze
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they are sandbaggers

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ww has been good damage the past 2 tiers

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idk about s1