Yeah I also had to turn them on
#fury
silent burrow
modest condor
oh really
oh right this weird discord setting
i think i just have it to always show all channels in all servers
wary fjord
Never know, BT could also get boosted to do more damage than RB in TWW
silent burrow
oh really
Yeah I had to click browse channels and then select to show them. But yeah I also don't show all channels
wary fjord
He look happi
stable cove
he very happi
north geyser
the only builds I know are current season where you don't have any raging blow, and season 2 where you only bloodthirst when you have crit stacks
clever path
When is beta for the epic edition pre order?
little lotus
Crits breaking down the new tree on twitch rn btw
dusty aspen
SMF is saved š
dusty aspen
Single Minded Fury
Still think they should just make it a transmog only thing but making it be one talent instead of 5 should make the tuning easier for blizz
willow hazel
how we feelin boys
modern shoal
el garbage
sullen dove
nothing will please you orangutans
dusty aspen
Is it available to see on pandas yet?
sullen dove
That shit looks rly good
willow hazel
I love it tbh
sullen dove
Better than 2 sets this season
sinful spoke
Swordfish ur coping rn
willow hazel
armor that looks like actual armor
sinful spoke
Nah they all looked straight ass
sullen dove
The shoulders are a little ātoo curlyā maybe is the only critique
Resembles a Druid a little bit
silent burrow
sinful spoke
Plain ass colors
quartz viper
dusty aspen
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=Af00hchIpEQ&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowhead.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowhead.com&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title fake news bro didn't even link video
sullen dove
Thereās 6 variations bud
forest rose
https://tenor.com/view/roar-alligator-loki-loki-loki-variant-alligator-with-a-ho...
exactly!
dusty aspen
Curious how seeing it with movement it looks better vs a static image
willow hazel
man the lightning is so sick too
modern shoal
G a r b a g e
sullen dove
how do you make it not plain then
do share
itās literally already like 5 diff colors
willow hazel
they want neon colors and rgb probably
fallow leaf
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186252484029726772/1230221176664756264/i...
Bladestorm comeback for fury?
sullen dove
Donāt gotta do a whole 255by255b255 diff color palate
sick viper
Looks better than the Juggernaut headass set we got this season
sinful spoke
It did
kind bolt
dwarf only set
sinful spoke
Itās still shit
sullen dove
cope
sick viper
looks better than the S2 set too imo
sullen dove
Yea
sick viper
S2 is super overrated asf looks wise
sullen dove
S1 set this xpac was good
sick viper
eh not rlly
cursive hazel
what is this tmog lmao š
sinful spoke
Garbage
sullen dove
All the tier sets weāve gotten since sepulcher looked like ass
SEPULCHER WAS THE WORST HUH
sinful spoke
That includes sepulcher bro
sick viper
lol
sullen dove
nah donāt compare df sets to that
sinful spoke
Theyāre just as bad
sullen dove
Megatron looking ass set
dusty aspen
I just use my challenge mode armor anyways š
sick viper
Theyāre all dogshit
based
dusty aspen
Only set obviously designed to look the best on pandaren
sinful spoke
Like rogue and Druid already look good
dusty aspen
Instead of designing for lame humans and then increasing the Z axis
sinful spoke
But warrior os ass
forest rose
yeah druid looks great
clever escarp
geez warr set looks great
sinful spoke
very based cheche āeverything they do is badā take
Nah bro itās about being honest
Look at our legion sets
And compare them to these
serene vessel
Am I crazy or does WW look so fun in Tww?
sullen dove
juggernaut set helmet fucking sucked
dusty aspen
Am I crazy or does WW look so fun in Tww?
You play wow for fun?
sullen dove
Outside of mythic version where it hid your face
serene vessel
You play wow for fun?
Hell yeah
dusty aspen
Why are you in this chat then. This is for people who hate the game
sick viper
Yea!
sinful spoke
Now now letās not get that far ahead of ourselves we love wow
Wow just doesnāt love us
Warrior players
sick viper
nah this game is poopy doo doo stinkums
dusty aspen
They're saving SMF they're ok in my book
dusty aspen
Making it 1 talent is a start
desert cloud
Weāre getting optimus prime tier set in war within
Letās go
Looks like shit btw
sullen dove
wym that was the shadowlands set
upbeat sentinel
Making it 1 talent is a start
Just make it baseline.
hardy cargo
Nah SL set was power rangers
tall turret
That tier set pls no
sullen dove
damn evoker set looks crazy
sick viper
is being a lizard optional for evoker?
sinful spoke
@sullen dove nah bro
Look at the evoker set
And we get this dogshit
Wallahi Iām done with wow
sick viper
I'd play an evoker if I didnt have to be in lameass lizard form
little lotus
The helmet is cool, the shoulders are whats killing it
6 horns is at least 1 too many
sick viper
Hourny
fringe vale
And we get this dogshit
its the GOAT set
fringe vale
THEY DELETED THOSE PISS TIER TALENTS
powerfull enrage looking tasty
15% dmg over 15% haste
calm swallow
That Warr set is awesoome, way better than DF t1
sick viper
fringe vale
That Warr set is awesoome, way better than DF t1
y u hating on tha boulder boy
sick viper
monk set just as Horny-
calm swallow
y u hating on tha boulder boy
Cause it's ugly and reminds me of the Deepcore/Cataclysm set which was also jsut as ugly
fringe vale
Cause it's ugly and reminds me of the Deepcore/Cataclysm set which was also jsut...
stones are hard tho
pun intended
paper ocean
The warr set is ugly compared to some of the other classes
fringe vale
it looks pandaria-ish
kinda chinese plate
idk
its different, not the best not the worse
sick viper
Should've done Japan instead of panda
fringe vale
the expac is basically in a cave
how is that japanese? (remembers iwo jima) OH.
banzai intensifies
inner zinc
Smf still a talent oof
fringe vale
one day we might get a samurai warrior looking set? maybe?
sick viper
fringe vale
(ik we have the alabaster set that looks samuraish)
royal oxide
one day we might get a samurai warrior looking set? maybe?
Don't hunters have that look already?
fringe vale
Smf still a talent oof
it might work next expac considering the talents, maybe its not that bad with powerful enrage... smf gives aa enrage triggers and aa speed, and powerful enrage 15% more dmg so it might work idk
i wouldnt be mad if we had a meta smf tierm it would make things diff
fringe vale
Don't hunters have that look already?
what set?
royal oxide
It's a purple set from mop iirc maybe pvp I forget the name of it
fringe vale
It's a purple set from mop iirc maybe pvp I forget the name of it
u mean this one the cata one? https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=725/ruthless-gladiators-chain-armor
acoustic furnace
Puked seeing our new talent tree
It can't be THAT bad, right?
nocturne dragon
And we get this dogshit
I wouldn't say this is so bad but... first saw I definitely think this is demon hunter XD
fathom valley
We get pruning in our talents, forced to take shit paths, I hope they change it
olive wraith
Itās an arms expansion š
hollow ridge
I thought they were making changes so we wanted to press both bt and rg
must be blind cause im seeing none of that
still spear
We will press bt when we get out of rb charges
and maybe slam when we get out of charges of rb and bt
sour wing
I'm tired of hitting rb
dense elbow
Just snap first impression, I do like that I see some tools to buff Fury ability damage at the cost of haste. Perhaps they will allow us to hit harder, at the cost of number of casts, as a theme. For a more bursty playstyle. Fun!
I still see hurricane in there, sadge.
sour wing
They need to make smf actually good
young swan
nah
sour wing
Can't be a dwarf slayer with 2 2hnders
sour wing
Or just submit and go arms
sour wing
I actually like OP
eternal sundial
do you enjoy pressing it at 130 rage
sour wing
š
untold moth
I was informed reworked classes get to be mega OP. Guess that ended at dragonflight
untold moth
On top of fury
charred hawk
In reworked fury tree it seems like nothing much will be selected on the left hand side.
fiery jetty
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/aryULFpeltjwx5OGfoYkTVh1avrxstKfDLy...
AMAZING
jade cipher
guys
do you think there is going to be any tuning to fury
before patch drops?
blizzard promised to tune classes around tier set no?
subtle lagoon
Believing blizzard 
midnight kite
Expectation:
We do ok first week or so because were in a good spot atm and it delays tuning because they need to see how tier performs or whatever
jade cipher
well i enjoyed fury this season and voted for it but idk, i dont like the single target damage of this new build
or old build
brittle crow
W change
alliance has gotten away with it for too long
diplomacy
stoneform
shadowmeld
they can't keep getting away with this!
barren ore
again another ugly warrior set. when do they fire the set designers...
quaint stag
Whoever designed the dracthyr tier set for tww needs to speak to the warrior set designer. Itās so much better than ours and looks more plate than mail
primal plover
im really disappointed for warr man....fury tree seems even more out of synergy slayer for example you need to go deep right side for bladestorm but then all hero talents incentivise only Bloodthirst to proc and buff shit....but to path down to Bladestorm its all RB increases so you are encouraged by hero talents to smash BT encouraged by normal talent to hit RB and encouraged by hero talents again to mash SD procs like far out
sour tundra
Will flightstones and crests get reset next week or should I save them
jade cipher
Will flightstones and crests get reset next week or should I save them
they will become junk that will be sold to vendor
brittle crow
berserker rage baseline again let's goooo
i need a new keybind for it cuz i haven't had it for so long i repopulated that space with something else
untold moth
New doomer is in, War damage on alpha is gigabad, roll WW ASAP
dusky grotto
dumb question but with annihilator gone is bloodthirst even more useless now?
or is there something i missed
olive wraith
I think thereās bt synergy with slayer or something
I donāt remember much about it
But removing anni doesnāt necessarily nerf bt
young swan
augury and signet
sick viper
Cataclysmic sigma brand
sullen dove
anvil 
ashes of embersoul on diurna 
gajeel cookin gonna go a little stupid next season proly
brittle crow
what are good trinkets for fury s4?
timerunners medallion
sour frigate
and for keys?
steep fable
probably puzzle box
brittle crow
bruh nobody told me the tindral flying sections look so pretty w/ graphics turned up
i have to raid on low graphics š
dusky grotto
dumb question #2 - is smf still absolutely dog, like complete ass, just an embarrassment, lowest of the low, not even worth trying even after the buffs its getting?
modest condor
who knows
inner zinc
nice grats
modest condor
grats
modest condor
you still have a couple more months assuming your guild keeps raiding during fated
half cargo
gz!
summer quail
you still have a couple more months assuming your guild keeps raiding during fat...
nah we're taking a break
fringe vale
prying i get it today, best try was 1% last week, yesterday best try was 8%... im so tired chief this has been mentally exhausting af tier holy fuck
sturdy wagon
Farming Fyrakk on the weeks the raid isn't awakened @ 535 ilvl will be nice though, might be able to skip phase 3 in mythic heh
left perch
https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894...
Nice job big boy
warm crag
king
warm crag
Farming Fyrakk on the weeks the raid isn't awakened @ 535 ilvl will be nice thou...
doesnt he hard phase at 40 or smth
summer quail
Thank you thank you
modest condor
stupidly close kill
let me guess you had the 4th roar with the boss at like less than 1% hp
and everybody died
summer quail
no, a seed went off
covert blaze
Grats 
summer quail
tyty š
warm crag
ya zhai
heavy sparrow
Phew, ravager was not removed, threat averted. Instead they made a choice node, even for arms.
VERY POSITIVE change as far as i'm concerned
But now i have to read more
To see whether the overall is actually good or not
sullen dove
doesnt he hard phase at 40 or smth
he doesnt phase on heroic at any health ive seen so doubt same wouldnt be tru on mythic too
dapper goblet
we got him to 38% on the last set of mushrooms yesterday and he despawned them and flew away
not sure if thats what we're talking about but i'll mention that
sullen dove
warm crag
we got him to 38% on the last set of mushrooms yesterday and he despawned them a...
this is fucked up
why would you do that im shaking now
dapper goblet
silence spongie
warm crag
š¤
surreal blaze
Phew, ravager was not removed, threat averted. Instead they made a choice node, ...
I was really liking the Warrior/Fury changes
heavy sparrow
Yea, sadly i also took a look at the arms changes....
surreal blaze
Yea, sadly i also took a look at the arms changes....
Good/bad?
heavy sparrow
Not impressed at all
The only thing i liked was the choice node between rav and storm
The most baffling was the removal of ww big damage on cd
That's straight up bad
manic iris
modest condor
grats
hardy cargo
gratz I should be getting mine tonight too I quit after tindral and rl brought me back in for 3rd rekill 
sullen dove
:3
fleet sorrel
blazedmace owns you
dapper goblet
bazed owns all of us
sullen dove
lincc owns all
willow cradle
Lincc does own
dapper goblet
Lincc mogs baze
brittle crow
isnt attack power enrage simply more dmg than movement speed/haste enrage
modest condor
not necessarily
brittle crow
but my apm
modest condor
we just had a whole discussion about this in #1230008383856316437
brittle crow
tldr? i never learned how to read
modest condor
a lot of things are affected by haste but not by damage increase
for example signet brand, augury, legendary, helm enchant, embellishments etc.
brittle crow
fury without the inbuilt haste might be an actual nightmare
this will keep me awake at night
modest condor
yeah im not gonna play if i have to play with some sub 30% haste shit
brittle crow
the wowhead comments complaining abt fury apm mightve won
sullen dove
just stack more haste 4head
quiet geyser
the wowhead comments complaining abt fury apm mightve won
Funny thing is, if the apm was actually a problem.. then just play a different fucking spec? Lol
fair oasis
been away from wow news a few weeks. still looking like an arms angle for next season?
dapper goblet
outer cedar
I don't have legendary axe and.. what waepon I use in season 4? I want idea..
young swan
been away from wow news a few weeks. still looking like an arms angle for next s...
yeah
young swan
I don't have legendary axe and.. what waepon I use in season 4? I want idea..
legendary axe + ashkandi
fair oasis
for both m+ and raid?
young swan
m+ is a little closer but prob arms in raid
outer cedar
@young swan I don't have legendary.. š¦
compact knot
<@137363315817971712> I don't have legendary.. š¦
once you get it its going to be legendary and ashkandi, because you should get it next patch, until then ashkandi and any offhand
young swan
you're gonna wanna get that
compact knot
but that is the number one thing you wanna get
im assuming people will probably still do fyrakk on normal and heroic for legendary drops on week that it isnt in the rotation so should obtain it normally
olive wraith
I don't have legendary axe and.. what waepon I use in season 4? I want idea..
Whatever sims best until you get leggo/ash
We have like 3 dungeons that drop 2h I think
outer cedar
Um.. yes right.. I can't wait season4 ...
limpid kelp
Ashkandi going in MH or OH?
vital saffron
Whats the best way to help stay alive solo? Im trying to beat the last boss for my axe and im constintly dying. I hardly play fury warrior so i dont know much about his healing kit
sullen dove
Whats the best way to help stay alive solo? Im trying to beat the last boss for ...
you should talent impending victory if you havent already
and basically hit that any time youre at half health
one of the single strongest healing abilities in game probably on a super short cd
like 40% of your health every 25-30 seconds whatever it is
so like that should go somewhere youre comfortable to like immediately hit it in a semi dangerous situation
enraged regen is your much stronger but longer cooldown heal that can basically fullheal you but you need to hit bloodthirsts to get the heal off
and also just try hitting spell reflect more often cause its a pretty good magical damage reduction
and i think 95% of damage youre gonna take in raids is magic damage
so to sum
hit impending victory and spell reflect very frequently, or when youre taking big damage/health is around half or lower,
and if you/the raid is in the process of taking big damage just use enraged regen and it should ideally keep you alive
somtimes mechanics are just done wrong and you die anyway though
slim coral
he's not reading all that
sullen dove
average warrior reading comprehension
vital saffron
Thanks appriciate it
ashen socket
@fringe vale big grats
sullen dove
welcome to the club 
sullen dove
zug moment
ashen socket
But with that said I think I should swap to a healer main
fringe vale
corrupted seed at the end had to go take it or was a wipe
hardy cargo
poggies, and with a prog 92
young swan
gz :3
hardy cargo
yeah it was my guilds 3rd or 4th kill and they carried me to victory theyre the best :3
dense elbow
Gz, ya better buy all of them a cookie!
hardy cargo
theyre about to get more than a cookie š
dapper goblet
you own swordish
modest condor
grats all the new kills
summer quail
many people got the kill tonight huh
flat river
Anyone wanna carry me mythic fyrakk for free
wanton mirage
is there any way to buy mythic lockout for Fyrakk. my guild like to rekill this week but don't want to prog on Tindral again lmao
hardy cargo
there is, I forget where tf to do it. But, I would be a lil bit careful with that atm a lot of people are stealing lockouts and scamming to steal gold before end of patch
clever path
whats the drop chance on Embodiment of the hellforged
does anyone know?
summer quail
is there any way to buy mythic lockout for Fyrakk. my guild like to rekill this ...
ye there's prob people selling it
compact flint
Does anyone know if we do mythic+ before 23rd if we get 519 gear right after season 4 launches at the start?
eternal sundial
Does anyone know if we do mythic+ before 23rd if we get 519 gear right after sea...
Old season dung ran for vault = old ssn loot for vault
fringe vale
is there any way to buy mythic lockout for Fyrakk. my guild like to rekill this ...
ask around recently disbanded or off-duty guilds on your server that were doing fyrak trys
empty grove
is there any way to buy mythic lockout for Fyrakk. my guild like to rekill this ...
tindral got heavily nerfed again
shadow maple
in s4 what is the best trinkets we can have?
red peak
Has arch offered his opinions on the tww leaked talent trees yet? Assuming we don't get bits of it in s4
eternal sundial
Check the channels
red peak
Didn't see those had been added
dull wolf
Is there a list with dinar priority purchases anywhere? I dont see it in the pins
For both arms / fury
fleet sorrel
subtle lagoon
Is there a list with dinar priority purchases anywhere? I dont see it in the pin...
Probably hold your horses for a bit
chrome plover
what is fury like in fated
wild mural
what is fury like in fated
Arm šŖ
chrome plover
i havent looked at anything in ages and now im seeing all the tww stuff and getting hyped
chrome plover
is it really bad?
I was thinking about playing survival but i finished legendary q yesterday
wild mural
Yeah
chrome plover
kaching macro season 2 gaming?
wild mural
Yes
chrome plover
wild mural
wild mural
Probably itās S1 tier so
eternal sundial
@chrome plover phrog
eternal sundial
arms also looking good?
It does big fuck dam
eternal sundial
do i have to think though
Spam ms
wild mural
Axe
chrome plover
i really like it
wild mural
Yeah itās cool
eternal sundial
Axe <:xan:1094127979703062558>
Axekandur rip
eternal sundial
I like arm now
All cuz of ptarm
wild mural
Real
I feel like a bit of a sucker in that I canāt play both fury and arms at a high level
Fuck prot tho Im never playing that spec again
silent burrow
Holy moly syi lives
wild mural
Yes
silent burrow
Hi fren
wild mural
Hi fren :3
silent burrow
back check
eternal sundial
I feel like a bit of a sucker in that I canāt play both fury and arms at a high ...
I mean ye - ur dps war main not furry main
Ideally
@warm crag Hosen check
warm crag
no hosen
silent burrow
I'm wearing overalls, that count
wild mural
I mean ye - ur dps war main not furry main
Iām a furry main
chrome plover
im a furry main
silent burrow
right lol
chrome plover
š
wild mural
syi how are you doing
I am doing yes
wild mural
back check
Still borked
silent burrow
What's their plan to fix
wild mural
Someone crashed into my internet exchange so I have no broadband
wild mural
What's their plan to fix
Let it heal naturally
silent burrow
You getting injections? I got same instructions and they been shooting me up for years
warm crag
Someone crashed into my internet exchange so I have no broadband
sorry
wild mural
You getting injections? I got same instructions and they been shooting me up for...
Nah I donāt think it was that bad
silent burrow
Nah I donāt think it was that bad
If you're having nerve pain, you might look into it. You will need a few things to be able to get there, but it's incredibly effective for me
wild mural
If you're having nerve pain, you might look into it. You will need a few things ...
Not really got nerve pain thankfully
silent burrow
Very nice
wild mural
I get some pain when I carry stuff but
silent burrow
Well that's good, constant nerve pain is real bad
eternal sundial
I get some pain when I carry stuff but
Yell at people to do it for you
wild mural
Yell at people to do it for you
Genius
silent burrow
Yeah for sure get people to do it for you lol
wild mural
Im gonna have to get a sofa up a flight of stairs so yeah gonna get help w that
jade cipher
guys
where can i find sim for fury and arms for next tier
from ptr
the google sheet
chrome plover
worthy mountain
jade cipher
thx a lot
modest condor
grats
worthy mountain
Ty legend! Lmoa boys gave me augury, 5head strat dont loot it all season, loot 496.
wild mural
I wish it worked for me
ornate gust
Congrats
ornate gust
Ty legend! Lmoa boys gave me augury, 5head strat dont loot it all season, loot 4...
Our Prot Paladin got the augury trinket when it dropped š
worthy mountain
Ty G!
hot plinth
does anyone else still have a problem with the new tree?
imo depths of insanity should be removed or integraded into unbridled ferocity and in the class tree seismic reverberation and barbaric training should swap places cause if you go down spear for ST then you have completly dead talents above armored to the teeth and since TR is already mostly played in AOE having more aoe with seismic above it makes way more sense to me
sullen dove
ya i mean I still dont think seismic is that strong, except for maybe if youre mountain thaneing, but i mean yea the rest of that stuff like doi probably would be looked at in the future
think like doi either has to be removed or make it like double reck's initial duration or something
modest condor
just remove it
eternal sundial
Remove doi and uf
eternal sundial
uf is goated
UF causes reck uptimes above enrage uptimes of previous expansion
Outside of your control
That's fucking VILE
warm crag
banezi noob
oblique trail
@warm crag DONT DO IT
hot plinth
UF causes reck uptimes above enrage uptimes of previous expansion
y but since reck in generell is a really really weak cooldown, having nearly 100% uptime only makes it playable
compared to like inca, combustion, meta, adrenaline rush and what not reck on its own is a complete joke
untold moth
Reck is enrage at home
eternal sundial
y but since reck in generell is a really really weak cooldown, having nearly 100...
You grief your CDs value by having it perma
If you want reck to be stronger
It's uptime needs to be lower
Combust and AR are also perma up and thus kinda shit cds
modest condor
did you just call combust a shit cd?
eternal sundial
Yes
modest condor
damn
eternal sundial
You have 40% uptime of it in keys
And more in st
Fire is COMPLETELY flat damage profile wise
It's flatter than BM hunter
You want proper CDs that mean shit like arcane surge or serenity (degen example)
At least I want that
hot plinth
you have to keep in mind if you grief reck uptime you also grief enrage uptime and since we lose 1-2sec of enrage uptime already (depending if you pick powerful enrage) fury might feel really slow and underwhelming...and i want my reck and enrage uptimes
eternal sundial
Enrage uptime doesnt have to be 99%
modest condor
just picking powerful enrage already makes fury feel slow because you lose 15% haste
(i hope this talent doesnt become competitive)
hot plinth
Enrage uptime doesnt have to be 99%
bro like you sound like a classic andy
eternal sundial
Especially with am
eternal sundial
bro like you sound like a classic andy
I want sl fury enrage uptimes with relevant charges on fillers not clueless rb spam
But im no dev so ye
hot plinth
what are you talking about...they already said they want a rota containting both rb and bt as we can see in both hero talents which focus more on bt
eternal sundial
Do you remember sl fury prio?
Rb2>bt>rb1
That kinda deal would be enjoyable
So if you pay attention to your charges and dont have spam resets youd gain some enrage uptime and prevent downtime
tc/OS can fit into that too to some extent
hot plinth
y but enrage uptime should still be near 100% if you play optimaly
eternal sundial
That's on them how they tune rage on fillers
hot plinth
the fact that you said enrage shouldnt be 100 is just completly wrong
modest condor
this is the first expansion that enrage is anywhere close to 100% uptime
hot plinth
and so having the most possible enrage and reck uptime is the only option for now...the other is having a complete rework
modest condor
having this much enrage uptime even with low haste removes part of the gear scaling of fury
tender cairn
hows smf lookin
modest condor
because there's no synergy between haste and mastery
tender cairn
modest condor
in the past increasing haste ment increasing enrage uptime which ment increased mastery value
that's now gone
tender cairn
this exp enrage is basically passive effect
hot plinth
in the past increasing haste ment increasing enrage uptime which ment increased ...
depending on which enrage talent we pick
eternal sundial
this is the first expansion that enrage is anywhere close to 100% uptime
Ye and it's degen
hot plinth
dunno like 7-8 years ago, was arms before that
eternal sundial
dunno like 7-8 years ago, was arms before that
Just wanted to see if me talking about sl made sense at all
Like i hated Post s2 with hns and tier
But that's Cbs fault
hardy cargo
Everyone hates on SL fury but I loved that shit, at least before sepulcher tier and playing RA
Though my only real comparison is to DF fury so I donāt think I have the best viewpoint kekw
I played it a tiny bit at the end of BFA but I donāt really remember how it played all that much (symptom of arms brainrot)
eternal sundial
Everyone hates on SL fury but I loved that shit, at least before sepulcher tier ...
Exactly
That shit banged
hardy cargo
Like if they had tier sets instead of justā¦. Not in season 1 and the dogshit shard system in s2
Fury probably wouldāve gone so much harder
And bladestorm was a cherry on top
(Because no hurricane and other buffing talents, delete hurricane btw)
ornate gust
I would like to announce that I have looted the trinket š¤£
ornate gust
As always.. looting bis items in the last week
warm crag
not even 496
crying!
left perch
pretty sure they came out at the same time
:keking:
ember apex
so what are we going to do about the war within warrior tier set apperance
clever belfry
ignore its existance
clever belfry
I will tmog it before equipping it
ember apex
we've had how many bad sets recently, sepulcher had the scion xB aesthetic, sanctum belt had a skirt built into it, this season our tier literally made an emote because it looks like the insect from space ghost
warm crag
slayer poe
ember apex
true.
and now we get no rework and also have to deal w/ this coat rack tierset
left perch
Anda and I are evoker mains so, we know whatās good for tww mogs š
ember apex
yeah u go to barbershop and do ur mog there
silent burrow
steep fable
Gawd warrior mog is fucking awful....been a rough couple of years now.
ember apex
thats what im sayin
jolly mist
more dresses
dont hate this im ngl
wild mural
Anda and I are evoker mains so, we know whatās good for tww mogs š
Ew ew ew
ember apex
i'd never transmog that dress so it's literally 0 value for me. i wish they let u toggle the dress part on/off
ember apex
its not its outdoor plate set
remember that one time u got fact checked in front of everybody and were proven wrong instantly
sullen dove
mfs when they think any single inch of cloth going below the waist is a dress and girly and cant be worn
literally is a trench coat
trench coat vibes sick
ember apex
"its not a dress its a trench coat" that's something you've said irl
sullen dove
a dress would be it completely circumferences your body
rotund steppe
alpha time best time, time to read unhinged opinions about the game from players without reading comprehension
sullen dove
ai bear moment
left perch
alpha time best time, time to read unhinged opinions about the game from players...
Real
wild mural
alpha time best time, time to read unhinged opinions about the game from players...
My unhinged opinion is that they should buff fury
dire badge
a dress would be it completely circumferences your body
what if you button the coat up what is it then 
rotund steppe
My unhinged opinion is that they should buff fury
i think they gotta give us 2 more arms and carry 4 2h weapons in total
steep fable
I would say it is closer to a skirt than a dress, it is bound at the waist.
dire badge
itās sown into the skin donāt worry pookie
wild mural
dire badge
Shonen jump just sent me a push notification that a new boruto chapter is out
Time to uninstall that app
sullen dove
yikers
rotund steppe
Shonen jump just sent me a push notification that a new boruto chapter is out
ew
oh! almost forgot
this xpac will be the best guys you all see
dire badge
surely
clever path
anyone seen warrior on the alpha?
eternal sundial
royal wagon
Fury is never good beginning of expansion and always scales better towards end of expansion
royal wagon
atleast theres arms
Tru
white rover
Fury is never good beginning of expansion and always scales better towards end o...
Still waiting
forest grove
that isnt a dress but I unirnonically wish it had a dress
unreal cosmos
Hey guys, I didn't play in S2 so I'm looking for a guide to learn a bit before S4 if someone have something somewhere, thanks in advance!
forest grove
when was the last time there was a non-pally specific dress in plate? legion?
I feel like the new warrior tier set is good for somebody but im not as interested in the viking thing
I feel like its been a while since we had something that looks kinda knightly but not like, plain. So im into the outdoor set
wait im dumb
nathria set
dire badge
Fury is dead in TWW season 1
actually every season 
hollow elk
On my break eating lunch. Project manager walks in and starts talking about work.
covert blaze
I asked guys, don't worry
barren dagger
Appreciate you
left perch
On my break eating lunch. Project manager walks in and starts talking about work...
hourly or salary
hollow elk
Hourly
olive wraith
Fury is never good beginning of expansion and always scales better towards end o...
Explain DF then
hasty path
Guys what is meta fury trinkets in TWW hello please thanks ā¦ š
olive wraith
Guys what is meta fury trinkets in TWW hello please thanks ā¦ š
Drogbar rocks
hasty path
Okay bro š šš I will get this
olive wraith
hasty path
Hello guys where to do I acquire this Drogbar Rock
covert blaze
Guys what is meta fury trinkets in TWW hello please thanks ā¦ š
chair + rope
royal wagon
Explain DF then
wat is there to explain, fury wasnt good in Vaults
silent burrow
Okay bro š šš I will get this
are you just trying to warm us up for what is to come
royal wagon
Explain DF then
then it got better by season 2
cyan moat
You're welcome.
hasty path
chair + rope
Hey bro ! Thanks to you. Do I need a specific rope variety ?
silent burrow
wat is there to explain, fury wasnt good in Vaults
It was better than arms for almost every fight lol wtf you mean
covert blaze
Hey bro ! Thanks to you. Do I need a specific rope variety ?
make sure it's very strong in your case
olive wraith
then it got better by season 2
It got better until Aug overshadowed it
hasty path
are you just trying to warm us up for what is to come
šš š¦š±
olive wraith
Itās not like warrior is āgoodā now we are very mid since s2
hasty path
make sure it's very strong in your case
Can I simulate this on Ask MrRoboy or ?
royal wagon
the only thing im uspet with DF, is we never got to see Razageth's humanoid form
what if she was hot?
covert blaze
Can I simulate this on Ask MrRoboy or ?
check noxxic
hasty path
check noxxic
Hello bro š thanks for you reply ! Where can I find this ?
silent burrow
<:copium:839076283467431956>
I mean if nothing else, it was certainly better on the only hard fight of the entire season lol
covert blaze
Hello bro š thanks for you reply ! Where can I find this ?
ok stop we're gonna get banned for sure
hasty path
royal wagon
I mean if nothing else, it was certainly better on the only hard fight of the en...
warrior was good for its wrecking throw on tht fight thts it
hasty path
I am truly an unstable individual, but my loyalty makes me an asset.
royal wagon
big dam to shields
covert blaze
I am truly an unstable individual, but my loyalty makes me an asset.
š£ļø š„
silent burrow
big dam to shields
warrior wasn't even the big shield dam lol
clever path
Does anyone have a build for S4 mythic+? Seems to me like it would just be S2 build all over again, but since we got a tier set buff, I figured I'd ask if anyone knows anything different
sullen dove
should be the same no diff
thereās like a .2% chance maybe you can find a reason to do 2 vicious contempt over something else
idk what that something else would be tho
cuz more frequent strong bts sees a little more use out of that than s2 prolly
but think thatās about it
clever path
Anyone done any simming or PTR mythic+ keys for next season trinkets? I'm hoping no cast time trinkets like puzzle box, but has anyone tested anything ouy?
silent burrow
clever path
thereās like a .2% chance maybe you can find a reason to do 2 vicious contempt ...
I remember i did that for first boss in S2, highest damage i ever got
sullen dove
or maybe you did actually do that for single target donāt remember how many excess points u had to work with but I assume it was just 2 ww goes into 2 execute talents
royal wagon
warrior wasn't even the big shield dam lol
i know but thts what they were most useful in durring tht fight
silent burrow
or maybe you did actually do that for single target donāt remember how many exce...
I think what we did was swap between bloodborne and 1 vc going from mt to st
In addition to the ww/exe stuff
and obviously spear/roar
silent burrow
is bro like losin his mind or something
yeah he weird
clever path
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vThuWdF77rcZ3OF1a2xMgnMM5Udo8mpn...
uh, why is this using OF still in the sim sheet?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8pZ8uAFnQRhM5Ypt5h6Cc6
silent burrow
I ain't tmy don't ask me lol
sullen dove
did u click the one with odyns fury
silent burrow
lol
sullen dove
silent burrow
magic
clever path
no, it was AOE 10T
silent burrow
clearly not
clever path
why tf is it bringing to the wrong fricking sim?
silent burrow
just the wrong link.
silent burrow
why tf is it bringing to the wrong fricking sim?
Cause he linked the wrong one. Clearly lol
clever path
btw, how much uptime on BSL should we reasonably get? 60% seems really low
rotund steppe
guys what covenant should i run as warrior?
fickle bluff
you will never be mevik
sullen dove
is that trinket actually back on the menu
golden brook
build
sullen dove
113 ilvls higher than when it existed earlier
silent burrow
in that sim it is lol
modest condor
i mean that's big sim trap
rumbling ruby is a small frontal cone, you're never gonna get 10 mobs in a frontal cone like that
sullen dove
just dont suck 
silent burrow
You don't know me
sullen dove
learn to aim
modest condor
it's good on aoe for sure but i wouldnt pick it over augury or an on use trinket
wild mica
every sim having the bait cloak 
silent burrow
bis is bis
sullen dove
a cloak that gives you more secondaries vs a cloak that gives you less
which one could do more damage
clever path
Does anyone have a reasonably BSl uptime ppercentage? Those sims are showing it better than every other embellishment in both aoe and st
gilded pawn
as archi always said:its very possible that BSL turns off during burst windows
wild mica
a cloak that gives you more secondaries vs a cloak that gives you less
its 10+ aoe sim i'm pretty sure it doesn't really apply to raid. You don't want that cloak in m+
young swan
bsl is pretty bait outside of deep farm/trivial content
its pretty much exclusively a parsing strategy
edgy widget
Yeah, BSL is not something most people should shoot for
wanton mirage
It is great for M+
edgy widget
even in M+ the uptime is really iffy, I looked at so many logs of people who were boasting about 60% uptime, but it was down every time they used their CDs
wanton mirage
Not much constant mechanics that keep you under hp% req
edgy widget
no, but there is a correlation between when you typically want to use your cds (especially in AoE, which is usually big pulls with lots of targets) and incoming damage from all those targets
young swan
you essentially have to use defensives offensively in order to maintain good uptime for bigly pulls
edgy widget
even then, dropping below 90% health doesn't take that much damage
idk, I'll leave it in as a potential option, but it isn't my main recommendation for the majority of players
wild mica
bursting also screws you over
wanton mirage
VDH easily control the group during all of your cd up time during big pulls
edgy widget
I'm not saying it's not possible, but it doesn't happen that often in a lot of logs I looked at
sullen dove
its 10+ aoe sim i'm pretty sure it doesn't really apply to raid. You don't want ...
I mean again it just will be more damage but in the world of also running bsl and shit yea generally more health is better
But even weekly +10s next season which would be current 20s like I donāt think there could be any amount of dmg in those dungeons that warrants you MUST use stam cape
just kinda there for those freaks that want it
and like idk if buff lines up at weird times itās not gonna be that valuable sure things happen but ey auto attacks hit strong good
clever belfry
But even weekly +10s next season which would be current 20s like I donāt think t...
cloak stinky stinky in key
it procs uh not that often
clever path
what do you guys recommend grabbing for the awakened guy? I hear we get 6 choices. I've got lego, ashkaunder, both fire proc rings, and augury so far. which one should I get if I'm doing mythic raid and mythic+? the cloak or the cataclysmic signet brand, or is there another option I've not considering?
clever path
Yeah, BSL is not something most people should shoot for
Is double SF patch gonna be our go to like S2, or will something like vers wrist/lariat be better? I heard that the axe will increase the damage that SF patch does, plus the erranog ring will proc more from more fire damage
edgy widget
Is double SF patch gonna be our go to like S2, or will something like vers wrist...
- double SF is ~1% behind double BSL (which can be very gimmicky and I wouldn't recommend outside of deep farm/parse chasing)
- Vers wrist is ~1% behind SF, but flexes better with Arms
Fire damage should be completely covered by Fyr'alath, plus the helm enchant on top
quiet geyser
Vers wrist would be higher for AoE though no?
vapid spade
what's BSL?
storm rune
clever path
Fire damage should be completely covered by Fyr'alath, plus the helm enchant on ...
but wouldn't the ring proc more with more fire attacks?
edgy widget
not practically, it's limited by RPPM and Fyr'alath is very frequent
clever path
I got a buddy of mine that wants to play another melee class, what should he play? not rogue or warrior
silent burrow
pally obv
warped bone
Frost D
tidal kindle
neon cairn
craggy sleet
š«” bye sos/anni
olive wraith
Iāll miss having a second playstyle
ashen socket
I just think its funny they got rid of anni and not smf
Get rid of the more viable talent instead of the dead one that 3 people use
olive wraith
I was leveling my dev last night and saw someone talented into it with dual 2h
ashen socket
I mean
If you wanna keep it fine
I still think its stupid though
esp for where it is in the tree
Like
take the first bloodthirst talent in the tree and make it baseline
and put a choice node there that lets you pick between titans grip and smf
It doesn't become intrusive
still probably wouldn't see alot of play even then
Unless they tuned it correctly
fickle bluff
if its tuned correctly it will never be used seriously
ashen socket
I mean if anything in my mind smf is something that is purely cosmetic
Shouldn't be a talent
echo stump
rip rage.
fickle bluff
Shouldn't be a talent
everyone agrees with you
ashen socket
Yeah ik
fickle bluff
blizzard are incapable/dont want to make it a mog option though
sterile remnant
new season is still vers and mastery based or stats lean more towards haste? didnt play fury that tier
tardy lark
S2 was haste/mastery because rage spending is real good with AM.
sterile remnant
so unlimited haste and mastery or we had soft caps?
crisp coral
Is bloodthirst's intended purpose actually to trigger enrage?
tardy lark
so unlimited haste and mastery or we had soft caps?
we have diminishing returns, but in S4 we'll have so much cumulative stats that you are going well into DR
sterile remnant
arms should be very ahead currently though correct?
coarse nest
Arms fuk gud s4
sterile remnant
Is bloodthirst's intended purpose actually to trigger enrage?
mainly rage generation with erage as a bonus.
coarse nest
dawn pivot
whats harder to get, CE or the new awakened achivement
sterile remnant
currently? none XD
tardy lark
as CE is gone in about 5 days, probably that
sterile remnant
if you just play hardcore like 4hr a day you easy kill it
dawn pivot
whats more prestigious and will get me more girls
sterile remnant
last boss mount
sick viper
whats more prestigious and will get me more girls
getting a job
tardy lark
if you just play hardcore like 4hr a day you easy kill it
if you're starting fresh on fyrakk prog tomorrow, you arent killing it even with 4 hours a day
dawn pivot
getting a job
like blacksmithing?
sterile remnant
if you're starting fresh on fyrakk prog tomorrow, you arent killing it even with...
man the boss fight is fucked. last phase is literally hc and you just BL phase 1. transition needs a couple of tries and p2 infernals now dont drop perma buff
tardy lark
literally hc 
sterile remnant
you kill the boss on 3rd roar without BL
tardy lark
yeah sure, but hc seeds dont oneshot
dawn pivot
my goal was to get a CE finally, unfortunately not possible anymore. is the new "CE" less or more "prestigious" than the usual CE?
coarse nest
My team took the longest to figure out with p3
sterile remnant
yeah sure, but hc seeds dont oneshot
man on our kill we just had like 5 attempts on last phase
tardy lark
my goal was to get a CE finally, unfortunately not possible anymore. is the new ...
less so, since its "old CEs but all of them"
coarse nest
P1/p2 were fast
sterile remnant
p1 BL - progress a bit transition - p2 is really eaasy now - p3 is already over
tardy lark
man on our kill we just had like 5 attempts on last phase
that sounds exaggerated
coarse nest
Tbf we had a lot of p1/p2 screw ups that wasted pulls but we had it āfigured outā quickly
dawn pivot
less so, since its "old CEs but all of them"
shouldnt it be more prestigious, since you need to kill all of the bosses?
tardy lark
sick viper
my goal was to get a CE finally, unfortunately not possible anymore. is the new ...
tbh nobody will give af if u have it or not
dawn pivot
tbh nobody will give af if u have it or not
I do
sick viper
cept guilds u wanna join
tardy lark
shouldnt it be more prestigious, since you need to kill all of the bosses?
the bosses have been killed by a thousand guilds before. There are logs for every boss to show the best performing build, trinkets and strats
covert blaze
my goal was to get a CE finally, unfortunately not possible anymore. is the new ...
There is no new CE. All the content is recycled
dawn pivot
and I want to know if its harder or easier to get
sick viper
this tier is straight dogshit
covert blaze
and I want to know if its harder or easier to get
The bosses are omega nerfed already and already progged
sick viper
fyrakk wasnt rlly omega nerfed
sterile remnant
its just about how hard they want to tune it
tardy lark
fyrakk wasnt rlly omega nerfed
sterile remnant
fyrakk wasnt rlly omega nerfed
wat
covert blaze
fyrakk wasnt rlly omega nerfed
XD?
dawn pivot
wont the bosses get some new mechanics?
sick viper
another health nerf wouldve been omega
sick viper
no affixes so not as mickey mouse as fated
sterile remnant
seriously tho no affix nothing?
oblique trail
another health nerf wouldve been omega
Fyrakk has been borderline gutted compared to his release version
But not to the same extent that Tindral has
sick viper
ok thats comparing it to release tho lol
sterile remnant
Fyrakk has been borderline gutted compared to his release version
i mean p3 was the hardest phase. now its the easiest
tardy lark
ok thats comparing it to release tho lol
wtf would you compare it to otherwise lol
coarse nest
and I want to know if its harder or easier to get
Abbba if it means anything, I went full zero to hero in one tier, you totally can too! maybe I just got lucky but I was a heroic gamer for multiple expansions, randomly decided to go for CE in season 2 DF tried out 5 guilds before landing home on the 6th.
CE both seasons so far and planning to go for more with them
oblique trail
Ok but when you say he wasn't really omega nerfed, you're talking about the entire tier no?
sick viper
wtf would you compare it to otherwise lol
Jailer
modest condor
funny thing is that right now fyrakk still takes 500+ pulls for guilds to kill
modest condor
it's actually crazy how hard tindral and fyrakk were
sterile remnant
tindral was so unfair man š
tardy lark
Happens when you cant throw gear at it
modest condor
we killed the latest nerfed version and it was still the 2nd highest pullcount on an endboss, only beaten by azshara
sick viper
mythic fyrakk is just a dogshit fight lol
iron portal
You sure about Azshara?
sick viper
why would you compare it to an entirely different boss
cuz difficulty
modest condor
You sure about Azshara?
yes we had like 2 more pulls on azshara
iron portal
Wow
modest condor
hold on let me check actually
sterile remnant
azshara was a fair fight tho atleast more fair that fyrakk and tindral
oblique trail
cuz difficulty
So you can't compare release boss to end of season boss?
sick viper
fyrakk wasnt gutted cause jailer was hard or gutted more
jailer was nerfed harder than fyrakk
modest condor
oh damn it's actually higher than azshara
fyrakk 279, azshara 270
and then there's tindral with another 100 higher
oblique trail
Jailer was definitely nerfed a lot, but that doesn't mean that Fyrakk hadn't been nerfed a lot as well
tardy lark
jailer was nerfed harder than fyrakk
sure, the entire raid was, but why does that make fyrakk not gutted comparatively
oblique trail
That is very strange logic
sick viper
jailer took literally 130 less pulls than fyrakk
dawn pivot
Abbba if it means anything, I went full zero to hero in one tier, you totally ca...
how often do you raid
modest condor
fyrakk nerfs only removed 1 phase, jailer nerfs removed 2 phases
coarse nest
how often do you raid
2 nights a week 3 hours each
sick viper
sure, the entire raid was, but why does that make fyrakk not gutted comparativel...
because fyrakk is still harder than jailer lol
sick viper
2 nights a week 3 hours each
2 night guilds rlly takin L's this tier
oblique trail
Fyrakk is still hard but he is a lot easier by comparison to his release
Because of the nerfs he has gotten
covert blaze
jailer took literally 130 less pulls than fyrakk
How is this relevant to fyrakk being mega nerfed or not
I'm so confused
tardy lark
you are doing some real mental gymnastics here
sick viper
Im not comparing release fyrakk to release Jailer
tardy lark
why would you even compare the two in that regard
sick viper
im comparing the last month of tier version of the bosses
oblique trail
But why compare him to any other boss at all
sick viper
why would you even compare the two in that regard
because its the finished version of the boss
tardy lark
no, its the version of the boss less skilled players can do
its not the same boss as jailer was
coarse nest
2 night guilds rlly takin L's this tier
We cut it close this tier for sure but we still got CE! Less than 400 pulls for exact Iād have to go double check
sick viper
no, its the version of the boss less skilled players can do
if u have to nerf a boss it was poorly balanced to begin with
oblique trail
Or they nerf a boss to allow more people to squeeze in CE before end of season?
sick viper
"skilled players" are just ppl who are good at overcoming bad boss design
tardy lark
lol
oblique trail
If theoretically 400 guilds killed it, it can still be balanced, but need nerfs to allow more people to kill it who aren't as good at the game
sick viper
no it wouldnt lmfao
covert blaze
hard = bad
Lul
sick viper
its balanced for 400 guilds
sick viper
400 guilds is literally hof
oblique trail
It's not?
tardy lark
grasping at straws here
sick viper
oh I forgot they merged
sick viper
but still why tf would u pay ppl to make content for a tiny percent of players
covert blaze
but still why tf would u pay ppl to make content for a tiny percent of players
Cause mythic is supposed to be hard?
What
oblique trail
A small percentage of people reach glad/elite as well but it's still there
oblique trail
That's what we're saying?
covert blaze
Just because you can't do something it doesn't mean it's badly designed bro
You're coping
Very hard
tardy lark
Tindral is what i'd call bad design but fyrakk is ok
covert blaze
Bosses can be overtuned
sick viper
p1 is horribly designed
covert blaze
But repeated post hof nerfs are to let the lower players get CE
sick viper
wildfire bounces shouldnt be a thing
oblique trail
Just place them properly lol
sick viper
yea but like sometimes they still bounce
tardy lark
but it mostly doesnt matter if you have a single bounce
oblique trail
If all 3 people actually move right there'll never be bounces