I was so high on copium while we waited for clarification
#fury
left perch
summer quail
if you tested it on ptr when it was per rampage hit you are depressed now. was insane
restive peak
Our APM is identical, our AOE is basically identical, but our ST is much higher w S3....it was the best TUNED 1, and their promise for tuning never actually happens
midnight kite
its like the 3ed or 4th time they had to change something proccing off rampage hits to not work on cleave
S2 does more AoE but the ST drop is pain
restive peak
IF they tune S2 I def agree it's probably overall more enjoyable, but it won't get tuned to the S3 level and we're gonna be absolute dogwater for 6 months
modest condor
im still convinced that the "buff" they did to the tierset was actually a nerf
because it now takes less stacks to reach 100% crit
also doesnt help that our gear basically has over 30% crit with nothing we can do about it
left perch
gonna be too many caching wa
flat river
lets goooo
imagine if our class tuning
was like
"tier set sucks we cant fix it, here have season 3 back"
sullen dove
because it now takes less stacks to reach 100% crit
this just means more bts overall tho no
still buff
just not impactful/no one cares
where you would maybe get 40 bts a fight in s2 you could fit like 50 in the same time window
prolly not like real numbers but the general idea of it is what it seemed like to me
sinful spoke
Pp Iโm expecting u to kill fyrakk tonight
sullen dove
haha...
yeah...
im expecting that too...
been expecting it for like... 2 weeks...
dapper goblet
voodoo
sullen dove
modest condor
this just means more bts overall tho no
ok so imagine the following scenario
rb does 10k damage
bt does 7k damage
tierset increases bt damage by 30% per stack
1: you hit 100% crit at 3 stacks
7*1.9=13.3
2: hit 100% at 4 stacks
7*2.2=15.4
scenario 1: 3.3k increase compared to rb
scenario 2: 5.4k increase compared to rb
you just increased the damage increase by over 60% but only increased the time it takes to get there by 33%
sour elbow
Too many numbers for my meat brain
modest condor
unluck
sullen dove
ya what is 1.9 and 2.2
modest condor
the damage multiplier on bt
sullen dove
o
modest condor
at 3 stacks it's a 90% increase so *1.9
sullen dove
ye
modest condor
ofcourse the actual numbers are different
but this shows that an increase in crit per stack can be a nerf
summer quail
if that is a nerf wouldn't you just stack to same stack as before then?
sullen dove
but yea cant also forget you get more dmg per stack
bonus dam went from 10 to 12 so thatd be 30 to 36 in the example
modest condor
i mean they could have increased the damage per stack without increasing the crit per stack
sullen dove
yea but i mean doing both at the same time i think generally evens it out to be an overall buff
if you .36*3 +1 for 2.08, then the 3 stack BT now does 14.56
sullen dove
and 14.56k 4 times = 58.24 vs 15.4k 3 times = 46.2
in the same window of attaining 12 total stacks in either scenario
its both a damage buff and also "you get to hit bt a little more often so oo exciting! surely this is what you wanted guys!"
summer grove
Season 3 was the only tier set I got to play with. Season 4 doesn't seem hype to me
sullen dove
i mean the talents are fun and good in m+, the set itself is just pretty mid
wild mica
my favourite part of s2 set is when the tank moves out of my ravager
sullen dove
ppl yappin about how much they like the set just lyin to themselves and want the playstyle back which is warranted
it wouldnt be as much of an issue if current tier didnt force u down the path of annihilator ra
jaunty trellis
ravager moves <.< >.>
clever belfry
ppl yappin about how much they like the set just lyin to themselves and want the...
silence s3 liker
sullen dove
silence 
clever belfry
silence <:anda:1168904285136879647>
ce check
silent burrow
ope
sullen dove
clever belfry
2ez
jaunty trellis
only allowed to complain
W
summer grove
I liked the odyn fury base in tier set
sullen dove
o n e
clever belfry
i will commit warcrimes
summer grove
I guess I already did
oblique trail
S3 is very cringle if you have to align your OF through crits but you only crit at guaranteed Bloodcraze stacks
summer grove
Yeah I guess my onlyfans crits
clever belfry
banezi go bed
clever belfry
what vidya
oblique trail
path of exile
summer grove
I'll give the season 4 bonus an honest chance.
oblique trail
The economy is in shambles
clever belfry
c r i n ge
hallow sphinx
i will commit warcrimes
oblique trail
I'm cringe what about it?
modest condor
if you cleared the raid
hell yeah im allowed to complain now
summer grove
Leggo and nelth weapon is gonna make me so happy
clever belfry
clever belfry
I'm cringe what about it?
takes one to know one
oblique trail
takes one to know one
true bestie :3
oblique trail
I'll give the season 4 bonus an honest chance.
Arguably it'd be more exciting to play with a tier set and playstyle you never got to experience, no?
Unless you genuinely loved one particular playstyle and could never see yourself playing anything else
summer grove
I never got to play season 2. So yeah I'm excited I suppose
summer quail
ppl yappin about how much they like the set just lyin to themselves and want the...
ye, enables AM ravager. was either that or s1 set
midnight kite
Theres a small part of me thats curious to see what war crime of number tuning they would have done to the S1 set if it won
clever belfry
Leggo and nelth weapon is gonna make me so happy
unfortunatley ashkandur is 100% passive and u wont notice it existing
it is powerful its just
boring
sullen dove
ye, enables AM ravager. was either that or s1 set
lets keep it a buck
fuck ravager
am only good one
summer grove
It'll be better than the bullshit I did with Arms during Nyalotha progression. Memory of lucid dreams whirlwind spam.
sullen dove
reck/av every 30 seconds feels cool
u just hit buttons more often
even if its literally 2 buttons
summer quail
yes, cds more often
clever belfry
even if its literally 2 buttons
Ramp BB
summer grove
See big numbers to keep my ADD mind in check
final birch
rb rb ramp
sullen dove
but yea that just falls further into the rabbit hole of cds more often > they/you cant be as strong > you dont have any real cds and your dmg is a flat line > good luck bursting on adds or boss dmg increase phase
silent burrow
You can also press ww a million times
sour frigate
You can also press ww a million times
bonegrinder vibes
sullen dove
real
final birch
every tier is arms tier
final birch
but u can have fun with other specs
clever belfry
stop lying to urself
sour frigate
every tier is arms tier
OWNS
sullen dove
show me the difference
clever belfry
ok and WW on ST
current ssn
when it doesnt even gen rage
what about it
think if u remove it its -50dps on sim
sullen dove
only on 3 bosses
clever belfry
+3 rage
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
fuck the fury talent tree
forcing u down spamming BT or RB
why not intermingle
0/10 design would not fuck again
sullen dove
seperate talents
try again
game bad
then again it would be boring if every node that buffed raging buffed bt the same way
but like
what can ya do
dapper goblet
hero talents will save the class
sullen dove
surely
summer grove
Whereas Ret paladins just have to count to 5 and do regarded numbers.
clever belfry
hero talents will save the class
$|_@Y3!2
sullen dove
slayer
sour frigate
hero talents will save the class
jaunty trellis
hero talents will save the class
it dont need saving
winter stump
how many greater and lesser do you have
can i check it somewhere?
i think like 7 greaters and 4 lessers
left perch
you can check by heroic kills in achievements screen, and thereโs a script for lessers on wowhead somewhere
I realize by not providing full details, Iโm only slightly helpful
you can use the wowhead table to calculate your % chance
olive wraith
Iโm not sure if thereโs a number of lesser that equal to a greater. I canโt remember seeing any info on that
At least for the guaranteed drop
glad coyote
well boys its been a great season as fury, unless they buff us we will be arms
sullen dove
When your chances from greaters only goes from 40% at 13 to 100% at 14 idk if any amount of lessers matter
Outside of maybe a 10% or so higher chance of getting it like 1 week sooner if that
summer quail
well boys its been a great season as fury, unless they buff us we will be arms
would have to be a massive buff, arms is insane
glad coyote
would have to be a massive buff, arms is insane
i havnt played arms since dragon soul ๐ฆ
left perch
When your chances from greaters only goes from 40% at 13 to 100% at 14 idk if an...
yea idk I got in 11 greaters. So thatโs like 23% and I had an extra 7% from lessers I think.
alpine steppe
So to the best of my knowledge we really have no information about obtaining leggo next season but our best guess is pity buff carries over and we'll get a chance at it once every three weeks?
glad coyote
welfare lego
alpine steppe
If that's how it works season could be over by the time I get it haha
warm crag
amirdrassil will still be open every week
you probably won't be the only one fishing for legendary so you'll still be able to do it weekly
olive wraith
The only thing that might change the blp is when Amird is in the โawakenedโ rotation.
I would think
alpine steppe
you probably won't be the only one fishing for legendary so you'll still be able...
Fair point guess I'll try to save a Fyrakk lockout
muted star
maybe you get lessers/greaters from every raid/end boss
heavy sparrow
I just discovered that moonlanding has more than one meaning
alpine steppe
Lack of information seems so weird, but I really don't remember what last S4 was like either.
heavy sparrow
That's becuase there was no tier
Actually, was there?
I think i might be confusing with pre patch
gilded pawn
there was 1 tier
heavy sparrow
Did s4 have talents?
gilded pawn
No
heavy sparrow
I don't think so
gilded pawn
Pre patch
meager void
sullen dove
sour tundra
Out of the top 100 mythic + warriors only 6 of them are horde. That's crazy to me. I guess it's time to swap if mythic + is my main content?
sullen dove
eh i mean
thats just ppl taking advantage of marginally more useful racials
like dwarf/nightelf
they have their situational uses that can be good
but unless u plan on doing like +30s
it doesnt matter
at all almost
median oracle
Out of the top 100 mythic + warriors only 6 of them are horde. That's crazy to m...
horde legends are waiting for war within to annihilate the alliance
we're still recovering from the sylvanas incident so we need just a little more time to sharpen the axes
willow cradle
Out of the top 100 mythic + warriors only 6 of them are horde. That's crazy to m...
Alliance Racials are way ahead in M+
Thats why
gilded pawn
in particular its dwarf and nelf
slim coral
?
dapper goblet
VOODOO
slim coral
for what
sullen dove
can u not even at everyone
gilded pawn
grats
sullen dove
or did u like.. willingly not somehow
young swan
@sullen dove did u kill it
sullen dove
yea..
young swan
LETS GOOOO
gilded pawn
lets goo
gilded pawn
gz
dapper goblet
world 1082
sullen dove
๐
sullen dove
glad u mentioned xeos
young swan
cant wait for my good friend swordish to join a real guild now
sullen dove
real
fleet sorrel
Take the mount
slim coral
sounds like if you want a gz from xeos you gotta be in world top 20
sullen dove
next tier for sure
crystal raptor
Why does Blizz assume we like pressing Bloodthirst more than Raging Blow
latent hedge
low aurora
cold jolt
sullen dove
dense elbow
Gz on the kill, gl on the reclear!
edgy widget
I ate shit on smolderon, so annoyed T_T
modest condor
sounds like a skill issue
edgy widget
it was lolol, because I have none 
modest condor
but do you want my garms?
young swan
maybe
sullen dove
never got to pull smolderon with legendary...
modest condor
i got 1 kill on smoldy with lego
was a 30k dps increase compared to my previous best kill
modest condor
that was me on council lol
first kill i got no debuffs
after that every kill debuffs all over the place
sullen dove
actually scratch that, dont think i pulled ANY boss with leggo
cuz i got it latter half of tindral
modest condor
rip
modest condor
well im gonna get some sleep before tww alpha release
young swan
gn
edgy widget
he didn't say how long he was gonna sleep for
modest condor
no stream until wednesday btw
edgy widget
might be years
sullen dove
tru!!!
edgy widget
might wake up next week
modest condor
monkaS
junior gale
ill put money on alpha coming out and the talent changes arent in yet
young swan
sco and naguura just straight up saying they're in london for a blizzard event
so funny
edgy widget
wake me up... when alpha begins ๐ถ
modest condor
i walk a lonely road, the only one without war within alpha
covert blaze
@sullen dove did u kill
sullen dove
yea
young swan
cant wait for swordish to join liquid for tww
sinful spoke
@sullen dove grats pp
still swift
sword fish op
sudden tusk
gz mr fish
merry garden
Outside of cooldowns, how many buttons are in fury rotation?
sullen dove
like 3-4 probably
execute/ww sorta take up that 4th spot as u dont hit them super often
slim coral
sco and naguura just straight up saying they're in london for a blizzard event
quiet xan
this is top secret info
sullen dove
and when ur in execute phase u basically just always hit execute and replace slam
slim coral
you aren't suppose to share
merry garden
and when ur in execute phase u basically just always hit execute and replace sla...
Cheers
sullen dove
always hit execute in place of slam* i should say i guess
ramp/bb usually still higher priority buttons
but exe number 1 "filler"
slim coral
what time do we think they are gonna start the stream up to stream alpha launch in london
like 12?
slim coral
im just gonna wake up whenever i normally do
what time is that
young swan
idk like 12
sometimes earlier
sometimes later
i took a nap at like 7 so im probably fucked for waking up earlier
young swan
eh
being blue doesnt have anything to do with it
I just like playing with new stuff
ornate gust
How can I tell what is the average dps for fury warrior in mythic fyrakk intermission phase?
sullen dove
hard to say but will vary a lot based on if you cd it or not
i did 150k without using cds and other warr in my guild did 220k
everything but pot i assume
ornate gust
I compared my logs with on of the top 100 logs. My dps in the intermission is very low.. I did 180k only with cds... something wrong
sullen dove
huh.. might u link a log for me to peruse with my very rudimentary skills
cuz idk
ok he also seemed to use leggo on the shield i think which is pretty significant
so like ~200k real dps
eternal sundial
I think i did 160k no CDs on arm hmga
ornate gust
I think i did 160k no CDs on arm hmga
how many times do you send your cds in phase 1? 2 times?
sullen dove
he seemed to high roll brand like really hard too
eternal sundial
how many times do you send your cds in phase 1? 2 times?
2
But arms
So im not playing for pad
ornate gust
got it
eternal sundial
Works out a bit better too than fury since you dont have to wait for of to ava
On fury i also sent since we had obscene i1 dam
2 rogue feral and aug buff on em
sullen dove
so if we take away his leggo/brand dmg 220k becomes about 185k, do the same for you 180k goes to about 165k, so not as crazy big of a gap
summer quail
also you guys are lacking monk buff
sullen dove
yea i think that is a pretty flat 5% buff
ornate gust
i thought monk healer can give that buff.. no? ๐
sullen dove
ya but u dont have one of those either
summer quail
they can, but i don't see a monk healer here
summer quail
oh lmao
eternal sundial
Lol
sullen dove
did do dmg in p1 so buff was on him
ornate gust
so the monk has to hit the boss to get his 5% phyiscall damage?
what is the name of their buff?
sullen dove
yea but only once in the fight
and he already did in p1
so it was on boss psure
mystic touch
ornate gust
ok ok
eternal sundial
Just check boss debuffs
But you said @sullen dove 180k without lego
Why did he not lego
Where else would u use it
sullen dove
he leggoed as he was casting shield, so half hit boss hp and other half shield dmg
i personally used it after shield broke for more boss dam
cuz shield gonna break anyway
ornate gust
i use it on pull then at the end of phase 1... so no leggo for inter. 1
sullen dove
o i mean i just... held for boss again..
after colossus 2...
sometimes adds stayed up and i could funnel big
not often tho..
sullen dove
yea i mean it would def make overall go up.. prolly shouldve..
eternal sundial
Other big thing on fury is where u use CDs in p2 IMO
sullen dove
ya i only used main ones on boss
eternal sundial
I of'd col into ava adds
sullen dove
had roar for both add sets
eternal sundial
Then bit dry for col spawn 2
sullen dove
played too ethical for my own good
eternal sundial
Into of roar lego adds 2
summer quail
played too ethical for my own good
i mean when you're just trying to kill the boss you do whatever it takes. if you need the st boss dam
sullen dove
yea
if we had like 2-3 rogues or ferals that blasted
i prolly didnt have to worry
but in p3 when any single second you can wipe to something
summer quail
i'm doing the same, no padding. i just want this fuker dead
sullen dove
its not that we "needed" boss dam per se
ornate gust
Other big thing on fury is where u use CDs in p2 IMO
on adds for padding 
sullen dove
but anything to not spend a second longer in that phase
idk
now that its over it feels stupid
but ig it was worth it to get there
eternal sundial
i mean when you're just trying to kill the boss you do whatever it takes. if you...
Any 305k P3 enjoyers?
ornate gust
300k in phase 3? niceeee
eternal sundial
300k in phase 3? niceeee
Arms hack
sullen dove
check him pc
ornate gust
ah.. got it
summer quail
Any 305k P3 enjoyers?
as fury? hah right
eternal sundial
check him p1 and p2 boss damage
NO NOT CHECK P1 ARM DAMAGE
summer quail
only phase you will beat ret in boss dam is p3 so makes sense
sullen dove
i mean real shit we were neck and neck the whole fight
slim coral
p2 boss dmg go quirky
I own you
sullen dove
every phase one of us is within 1mil higher
summer quail
kek didn't see the image above
slim coral
slim coral
this is what real p2 dmg looks like
sullen dove
?
sullen dove
slim coral
or its gg
eternal sundial
I can see why they didnt take u
sullen dove
by linking a wipe log
slim coral
exactly
slim coral
this is why I own you
sullen dove
sowwy sir
:3
o ok i just looked at my own intermiss dmg and it seems im being disingenuous too @ornate gust augury and brand did a combined 30k dps somehow
that not normally
check him pc
so a realistic 120k out of cds dps
ornate gust
which server are you in?
sullen dove
but yea idk i dont think 180k is like "that bad" could be better possibly sure but unless u think youre rly messing up something rotationally i think its aight
aerie peak
and like if u kill the shield u kill the shield
well at least i got a nice warrior seed holding pov video
ornate gust
link
dapper goblet
bazed slaying fyrakk for the 9th time meanwhile swordish (1082) kills it for the first time..
he owns u
eternal sundial
vouch him into infinity pls
@oblique trail nice player vouch
sullen dove
seeding was still kinda fun
but never want to do it again
p3 must be so boring without a seed tho
dapper goblet
yes
dapper goblet
vouch him into infinity pls
i think he ruined his own chances
when he apped 7 times in 2 weeks..
sullen dove
holy
slim coral
who did that?
sullen dove
he's just rly committed
dapper goblet
sullen dove
does bro got a lunch bag on his head
slim coral
https://tenor.com/view/hot-day-are-you-ready-for-some-football-gif-1627881289483...
I got the recepits I log every time I app to a guild
sullen dove
dapper goblet
sullen dove
this is why he's the king
hallow sphinx
I appd at the end of abberrus
slim coral
you're done playing anyways
sullen dove
yea
quiet bramble
trying to do Fyrakk as a dps pugging is hell on earth lol
sullen dove
cape tmog i guess pog
tho itd be funny to just have the trink for vault
eh nah still potential to get cape next season
bank trinket collection grows
sullen dove
hit things good for like a week
do we know yet if crests are uncapped next season
or still the like 90 a week
for a while
wanton mirage
Yes much help hitting those primalist elemntal guys
Did u get the mount? Swordish
Btw gratz for the kill !
sullen dove
thank
no mount..
hunter/shotcaller bought it off warlock for 2mil and aug kept his...
sullen dove
fast mural
Or its just gonna be an announcement for alpha
slim coral
Nah thatโs not what the roadmap said
Also why would all the content creators be in London
Just for an alpha announcement
indigo arch
Gee, how swell to have a myth track offhand just in time for season 4 to hit, surely it will last long.
tender cairn
so dumb question time, is leg gon stay bis next season
indigo arch
yes, there will be an upgrade item, same for evokers
tender cairn
indigo arch
yea ngl part of me hoped forever it wouldn't so yay, more fyrakks on ret!
indigo arch
99% nothing
tender cairn
thank god lol
indigo arch
balancing classes by their orange is cringe
warrior should simply do that, we have fuckall utility after all
tender cairn
its ok if its easy to get ig
im one of them poor ppl that cannot justify spending that much gold to craft it
tender cairn
warrior should simply do that, we have fuckall utility after all
wdym we have uhh commanding shout
indigo quarry
sullen dove
real
tender cairn
TRUE
sullen dove
would in fact make it meta yes
still swift
3 hours till alpha maybe?
ur a beta there's no alpha for u
still swift
flat river
*/8+
fleet sorrel
sullen dove
flat river
what he calculating
flat river
clever belfry
https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-calculating-poor-calculations-bad-math-gif-1694...
let ur cat play hard.mathler.com
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> nice player vouch
Yeah I'll vouch him into sabo 1 sec
flat river
Yeah I'll vouch him into sabo 1 sec
can i also get a vouch
obtuse grove
those who didn't loot leggo this week, do they keep their buffs for increased drop chance into new season?
or can it be bought with dinaar system?
oblique trail
No one knows 100% if you keep it and while there's a non-zero chance they'd reset it, it'd be very very strange if they do
obtuse grove
okay, thank you
rapid owl
what is this thing on my screen for fury? i dont see any proc that would cause it
tender cairn
raging blow stacks or sum?
frigid cipher
bitter palm
oh ok it goes away after a while of being above 80 rage
yes
chrome plover
got lego
iron portal
Companies have it so easy taking money from players these days
They dont even resist
lavish beacon
modest condor
where alpha?
silent burrow
oof that gif was too much
sullen dove
no alpha!?!?!?! But the streamers promised!!!!!!!!
they said they werenโt streaming until today!!!!!
what the frick!!!
ancient quiver
dire badge
young swan
happy alpha day
flat river
Is alpha out
young swan
idk im still in bed
clever belfry
idk im still in bed
americans
young swan
Canadian
oblique trail
french
left perch
no stream until wednesday
flat river
Egyptians
modest condor
give me the book so i can get my mount http://puu.sh/K57Ph/16218cb529.png
mossy fox
no stream until wednesday
sullen dove
give me the book so i can get my mount http://puu.sh/K57Ph/16218cb529.png
R u doing the thing where u check with the treasure finding thing every day
Can do it on multiple alts too technically youโd just have to get the rest of the books but thatโs easy
modest condor
haha alts
sullen dove
this guy
sinful spoke
so close to 3100 
i dont wanna do wm or tott on fort
mossy fox
are you sure it's okay
dire badge
like really sure
low folio
i prefered wm on fort in the experiences i had
flat river
Any news on alpha yet
flat river
Wat
hardy cargo
Yes the alpha is here
ancient quiver
hardy cargo
hardy cargo
flat river
yeah im on it rn
real me too
flat river
real not edited
brittle crow
give me the book so i can get my mount http://puu.sh/K57Ph/16218cb529.png
ligma book LMAO
thanos twerk gif
flat river
i havbe that book too lmao
sinful spoke
thanos twerk gif
young swan
screenshots of tww zones got leaked already lol
flat river
wait send
eternal sundial
screenshots of tww zones got leaked already lol
Canada Moment
I bet you wear Hosen
restive peak
Max just turned on stream HERE IT COMES BOIS
flat river
check wow reddit
cant find it
sinful spoke
can i post the reddit link here without getting in trouble
silent burrow
yes
restive peak
Cant see why you'd get in shit, it's a reddit link
silent burrow
Yeah it ain't like you're linking porn lol
sinful spoke
well
if i die its ur fault
||https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1c6c5gm/leak_of_screenshots_of_tww_zones/ || spoilered it just in case
silent burrow
over capacity lol
flat river
xD
brazen island
do we know if we expect to fully swap back to t30 talents in s4?
bitter palm
brazen island
or is the new tech with annihilator staying
oblique trail
do we know if we expect to fully swap back to t30 talents in s4?
We will
S2/4 has no real synergy with Annihilator
rigid stirrup
Are we mastery > haste > crit> vers next season?
brazen island
oh that's true because odyns fury talent to speed up autos
oblique trail
Well that too
But that aside, the S2 talents were the best then, and there hasn't really been any changes talents wise except Reckless Abandon, that could make a change to it
Even then, Reckless Abandon is slightly behind AM despite the change
sinful spoke
Canโt wait to do less dmg than ww monks
sinful spoke
Yeah theyโre gonna own us in s4
modest condor
im actually surprised how close RA is to AM with s2
sullen dove
i mean I think new ra very realistic
in 100% reck uptime basically guaranteed to ramp > bb/cb repeat
sullen dove
so better the one ability does more dmg than have to hit 2 in a row
silent burrow
im actually surprised how close RA is to AM with s2
Might be the play on stuff like smolderon still
modest condor
just less than i was expecting
sullen dove
i.e cb cb spam
modest condor
Might be the play on stuff like smolderon still
big doubt
sullen dove
it just needs to.. do more damage
silent burrow
You think AM will do more on smold?
modest condor
yes
silent burrow
What makes you say that
Seems like it would be the one place it would really shine
sullen dove
where u lose effective 66% of your reck/ravs on a normal fight on like smold where u double dmg in cds youโd lose like 50% of the am value
Cause 1 in 3 cooldowns is twice as strong
oblique trail
You give up a lot of uses through the fight to have RA for those small moments of damage amps, where it's not miles ahead
And it's not like you do zero damage either with AM
sullen dove
so itโs just is it doing more on that small window better than twice as much value from ravager/reck/ava
sullen dove
And it's not like you do zero damage either with AM
silent burrow
Yeah I mean think about it though. If they are similar damage on a 5min patchwerk, the one that does more significant damage in cd's that line up with damage amp phase would surely be better
sullen dove
yea I just donโt think itโs significant enough is the problem
compared to like a minute more of avatar and reck and like just about as much hurricane uptime over the whole fight
oblique trail
You will do more damage in the damage phase, and do a lot less outside of it
modest condor
i doubt s2 build with RA is actually bursty at all
i mean sure cb does more damage than rb, but that's the only difference
oblique trail
Doubt as well since you have to build up to your buffed BB
Compared to currently where you instantly get 3/6 guaranteed double damage BBs
sullen dove
yea itโs bb every like 4 rampages and cb otherwise
ra should just give more dmg to those abilities
triple dmg perhaps
really have a good โif u want massive 90s cds go off, or hereโs more sporadic and often cds but they not as strongโ
shadowlands moment
modest condor
i mean i can just do a sim real quick to check damage profile
yeah RA does have about 10% bigger burst than AM
could be worth testing on smoldy
not me tho, i dont wanna play RA
ember apex
no one wants to play RA we're AM gamers
RA is like ur just starting out and learning the game and need something easy
sullen dove
both are the exact same
tf u mean
if anything u get less cds so less to think about with ra ig
ember apex
right which is why i said RA is for starting out
flat river
27 min for alpha?
sullen dove
27 min for new store mount
ember apex
alfalfa is already out technically
slim coral
27 min for alpha?
Apparently itโs coming at 7pm est
With lots of interviews and stuff
warm crag
source i made it the fuck up
modest condor
@mossy fox it's wednesday where stream?
mossy fox
waiting for wednesday o clock
modest condor
fair
restive peak
Max said something happens in 13mins
So probably interviews and hype videos and such if it's not out for 6 hours
modest condor
Max said something happens in 13mins
new hero talents
restive peak
new hero talents <:keks:936231610850897992>
flat river
real
imagine after 3 min they're like "get pranked we're releasing shadowlands pt. 2"
manic gulch
shadowlands never happened
slim coral
Max said 2 mins pog
manic gulch
flat river
Max said 2 mins pog
all jailers plan
flat river
WoW on xbox game pass
flat river
silent burrow
ayeeee
slim coral
flat river
where is mine 
silent burrow
monka rework
naive frost
ahh
slim coral
silent burrow
mossy fox
oh shit it's wednesday o clock
slim coral
So much content where to start
rigid stirrup
silent burrow
ayeeeeeeeee
young swan
holy fuck yes dude
wind token
only bad thing is i cant play with these changes
mossy fox
Bro this is insane
sinful spoke
They reduced a bunch of shit
lean heart
SMF still on the tree its joever
olive wraith
Is it me or did arms get a better tree
sinful spoke
It did
olive wraith
F
pastel loom
SMF changes... Viable or am I coping?
wind token
smf maybe for bloodthirst build?
olive wraith
What was it before?
olive wraith
Oh jeez 30%
hardy cargo
They just put the node below it in the current trees into it
ember apex
its a full committment though
clever path
interesting that they removed anni tho
ember apex
plus theres some ppl who do like SMF but dont want to play rogue or 1h frDK
livid lake
Wasnโt SMF only a potential candidate because of anni?
wild mica
Spear still there
spear would be so much more fun if the buff wasnt tied to sitting in the ground effect (which is now way harder to see than when it was blue)
south kayak
So what you guys think of these
olive wraith
Wasnโt SMF only a potential candidate because of anni?
Not really. It hurt to spend the point
clever path
smf meta inc
livid lake
God I hope not
ember apex
so no warrior rework?
modest condor
huh
south kayak
Now you choose 15% haste and Ms or 15% damage from enrage + 1 sec
modest condor
i want more haste, not less
south kayak
Well, thatโs the choice
hardy cargo
We could just stack haste on our gear at that point and maximize in the 15s dam amp
Then it wouldnโt feel like trying to push a car up a hill when forced downtime
I donโt mind it tbh
gilded pawn
We could just stack haste on our gear at that point and maximize in the 15s dam ...
Haste is multiplicative
Haste gets better the more you have
hardy cargo
Haste is multiplicative
Fuck I just assumed it wasnโt
manic gulch
golden hare
gilded pawn
Utility is so alive
warm crag
did they double down on signet
warm crag
its piercing verdict ye
modest condor
guys remember we've made war within specific channels
young swan
^
modest condor
hell yeah
sour frigate
is this tww alpha?
flat river
is this tww alpha?
y
sour frigate
looks like ffxiv shit
pulsar helm
imagine complaining when im a frost dk main ๐ญ
manic gulch
imagine complaining when im a frost dk main ๐ญ
what is there to complain, highest dps spec in raid
amarite
pulsar helm
Cause the gameplay is shit and if you like BoS you eat crayons
pulsar helm
it was a joke
so is the dk dev
manic gulch
while all the other specs have moved to df
manic gulch
so is the dk dev
sudden sail
Anni gone? What did they replace it with? Smf dreams of robot sheep
sullen dove
this shape looks cursed
sullen dove
man I wanna get out of scoo tho and look at em actual class changes be poggying
odd that odyns now fully requires u to get bt cdr talent tho
unless they bake s3 tier set into it to make that make sense itโs โif u get odyn you are spamming bt moreโ or just wasted talent points
plush ice
is there a link to the beta talent calculator? wowhead says it should be posted but i can't find it
sullen dove
improved enrage choice node tf else is there
mental rune
odd that odyns now fully requires u to get bt cdr talent tho
It gives BT a higher chance to proc enrage now instead of reducing the cd
young swan
improved enrage choice node tf else is there
sullen dove
written at 7 in the morning BatChest!!!!
sudden sail
Auto attack tunneler murdered, they killed my boy.
sullen dove
HOLY
glad coyote
theres a new channel for tww lol ive been asking for seperate channels for raid vs M+
mild kraken
10 percent fyrakk last night of raidโฆ do we kill?
sullen dove
anything possible
mild kraken
Also my guild recruited a warrior who is an admin on skyhold
sullen dove
hooooly
mild kraken
Dudes tripping
sudden sail
Speaking of m+, the rotation for s1 looks abysmal
mild kraken
He doesnโt even have the server added
oblique trail
spear would be so much more fun if the buff wasnt tied to sitting in the ground ...
Spear would be so much more fun if it just died
And got transformed into BotE
peak lagoon
quiet geyser
Man is it just me or the fury changes from the rework.. are meh. Kinda suck
Feel like arms got way more
sturdy wagon
Annihilator removed, no Tier 3 in season 4, I guess that playstyle won't ever return lol.
north geyser
if I understand correctly: annihilator is gone meaning everyone plays raging blow and bloodthirst? you just gotta pick which one you spam more?
balmy shore
S2 GAMERS WE RIDE
hardy cargo
if I understand correctly: annihilator is gone meaning everyone plays raging blo...
Ideally press both
hardy cargo
S2 GAMERS WE RIDE
sturdy wagon
All of these changes look like they slow down Fury significantly? Having to choose between 15% haste & movesment vs 15% daamge & Enrage duration. Deft Experience not reducing BT's CD anymore.
sullen dove
S2 GAMERS WE RIDE
sullen dove
Annihilator removed, no Tier 3 in season 4, I guess that playstyle won't ever re...
Itโs gone in prepatch not season 4
or those were 2 separate statements
quiet geyser
All of these changes look like they slow down Fury significantly? Having to choo...
Ya. Not a big fan of the fury changes. The class tree rework looks pretty sick though
sullen dove
ye
sturdy wagon
They were seperate sleepy face ๐
sullen dove
honk mimimi
sturdy wagon
Is there any word on if Slam will survive to the War Within? ๐
north geyser
Ideally press both
what do you mean both? I'm probably missing something but why would you bloodthirst unless if you don't have anything else? (sorry am a bit of a n00b)
silent burrow
guys remember we've made war within specific channels
genuinely did not know this lol
gilded pawn
what do you mean both? I'm probably missing something but why would you bloodthi...
Raging blow is stronger
modest condor
well they've only been there for an hour and 7 minutes
gilded pawn
But itโs all tuning
hardy cargo
what do you mean both? I'm probably missing something but why would you bloodthi...
The opposite of how this expansion, every season has had the build of spam RB OR spam BT. Both are tuned well and we press both of them in our rotation