fury

[summer quail]

that's okay nish, i'm sure @subtle goblet loves you

[south kayak]

[upbeat sentinel]

No

[north silo]

is this decent brand damage for iridikron?

[hasty path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPj4mfV3-5I @covert blaze @quartz current

[subtle goblet]

Garrosh says everybody is welcome under the one true horde

[covert blaze]

🔥

[left perch]

@covert blaze how do i do

leggo

[south kayak]

You don’t

[south kayak]

[left perch]

but i have

[left perch]

cat stab fever

[sick viper]

mf got 9 lives he aint scared of shit

[mild kraken]

Is mythic fyrakk a single target banger?

[left perch]

he's poly, actually

[covert blaze]

[covert blaze]

what do you mean

[left perch]

i need lego guide

[quartz current]

YOOOO SHIT GOES SO HARD BRUH

[sullen dove]

why are bosses just like allowed to do this

imagine a retail boss just randomly triple meleeing a tank

[quartz current]

have u tried not parrying

[sullen dove]

both our tanks just died within 20 seconds of eachother

to this triple melee shit

[quartz current]

about to pull this boss rn lol

[covert blaze]

Biggest tip is to farm the plant rare in emerald frenzies at 00:30 and 00:50 on the hour and make it respawn by killing mobs for the kill rares currency. Use the proving grounds to reset the 5 minute timer items from some of the quests. Also use proving grounds to reset the "catch the elemental orb" thingy

Can also tag the boss of superbloom for the rare currency if you drop combat before it spawns

[sand nacelle]

You can also join a superbloom group, kill the last boss, leave, get sharded and you might have another in progress superbloom. And then kill boss again

[left perch]

IM GONNA DM PASSWORD

caps

you can do for me?

[covert blaze]

no

if you pay me maybe

[olive wraith]

What an ass quest after a sucky drop rate

[left perch]

real

[olive wraith]

I too got it this week

And I’m so blah on starting the quest

[fleet sorrel]

[left perch]

Gil can you do for me

[covert blaze]

Gilwarr

[hallow sphinx]

🪤

[dapper goblet]

[covert blaze]

Who would win
Vilneas
Gillbeaky

[left perch]

Xanjeel

Pooper of Pans

[frail cave]

is there any value going ST this week for keys or should i just stay in my aoe keys build?

[gilded pawn]

there is no ST build for fury

[frail cave]

oh so using ashen jugg and massacre is a bad choice in keys / raid ?

[gilded pawn]

well there is

but in M+ there is 1 build

[sinful spoke]

In keys yes

[frail cave]

ah thats what i was getting confused about

[sinful spoke]

In raid boss fight like smoldy nymue and smold and u go massacre and ashen jugg

[frail cave]

okay thats what ive been doing

[sinful spoke]

Nah I can’t bro fuck autocorrect

I edited that message 2 times and it still fucked me over

[sick viper]

yo guys im like lowkey considering being a rat rn and last minute guild hopping

how low are the chances of me weaseling my way into a CE guild reclear?

[dapper goblet]

voodoo working

[sick viper]

21%

so do I rat tf out or what

[half cargo]

How many raids left?

[sick viper]

likely 2

[half cargo]

Hate to say it but I doubt it’s happening

[sudden tusk]

if you dont count this week

1

this week then next week then S4 starts

[half cargo]

No no, I meant how many raids his guild has left

[sick viper]

guess I gotta rat

[sudden tusk]

i farmed 900 eggs for the easter event

then forgot to spend them

[half cargo]

[sick viper]

decent amount of guilds still doin reclears in the last week?

[young swan]

if you're looking for a last week reclear on short notice with a new guild you'd be better off buying a run

[sick viper]

fuck

still gonna try tho

[summer quail]

got 10m? maybe more now

[sick viper]

maybe if I rmt'd lol

maybe I'll get lucky with fyrakk mercs

[limpid kelp]

How is everyone feeling for arms vs fury in m+?

[summer quail]

Right now or season 4?

[limpid kelp]

S4

[summer quail]

Arms stronger

[unreal onyx]

Real?

I thought S2 set was bis for m+

[eternal sundial]

If fury does no st it doesnt do jackshit in aoe

Itll play good but be smurfed on in damage

[young swan]

think fury is fine

arms just giga overtuned

pretty sure its also a lot closer in m+ than it will be in raid

[bitter palm]

i think its a design tradeoff

nerf cleaving % and buff st

[unreal onyx]

Should’ve voted S3 set

[young swan]

make the bed u sleep in or whatever

[unreal onyx]

I voted S3 tho

[bitter palm]

definitely

in raid the gap is gonna be crazy

[unreal onyx]

I‘ll play fury in raid to get all the parses

Since no one will play it

[eternal sundial]

Shouldve voted s1

If ur gonna be shit anyways

[eternal sundial]

Icon nerf did bring it down

[unreal onyx]

S1 was lowkey more fun to play than ka-ching simulator

[eternal sundial]

But still like 43k gap

[bitter palm]

still 40k

[bitter palm]

s1 was peak

[eternal sundial]

If you pretend they balance you can vote for S1

[bitter palm]

gameplay

[unreal onyx]

S1 was fun

Gameplay-wise for me was S1>S3>S2

If we dismiss tuning

[eternal sundial]

For arms it's clearly 1>2=3

As 3 execute and 2 sks are tied

[bitter palm]

for me s1=s2>>>>>s3

s1 tier is infinite fun on arms

[eternal sundial]

Well 1 gameplay kinda doesnt count since prechange arm

[bitter palm]

big numbers are always fun

[eternal sundial]

Was dire

[bitter palm]

thst iteration was

something else

[eternal sundial]

If you disregard the no baseline sweep times

[unreal onyx]

Bring back

[eternal sundial]

S1 warrior initially was so down bad i played mage

Just cba crushing blow and slam spam

[unreal onyx]

Phil ain’t loyal

[bitter palm]

ye i quit afte4 killing raz on hc

didnt find the game fun at all

[upbeat sentinel]

Me going back to maining DK in S4

[eternal sundial]

Doesnt make sense now tho

S1 it was clear warrior design needed elp

[bitter palm]

dks xd

[eternal sundial]

I came back to war that's loyality

Couldve played sp...

[upbeat sentinel]

I don’t enjoy arms so if we’re gonna gets smurfed on bad by them in raid, playing fury is kind of inting

[unreal onyx]

Minor hiccup on the road

[eternal sundial]

I think fated will not matter so just play fury

• better pad spec

[unreal onyx]

I will keep on playing fury in S4 as long as I can

[eternal sundial]

For like brood or sark or idk fuckin dathea

[cold jolt]

wrong discord woops

[upbeat sentinel]

Bomani spreading misinformation

[cold jolt]

i mcrafting on poe 😭

[unreal onyx]

150 lesser embers

[upbeat sentinel]

There should be a record for most lesser embers with no lege

[eternal sundial]

@bitter palm will conepog get the mount in fated

[bitter palm]

wait

is pandamonium thing out yet

[eternal sundial]

Cuz for me that's the only reason im playing

[bitter palm]

or did i wake up too early

[unreal onyx]

There would be a lot of #1s until they put in the actual blp

[eternal sundial]

Prolly this

[upbeat sentinel]

How much does arms beat us by in ST raid?

Like 100k?

[unreal onyx]

40k or so

Is what was said

[upbeat sentinel]

Oh I just remember the initial sims where they were fucking absurd

[eternal sundial]

432 to 390

Icon nerf cost arms like 13k

[unreal onyx]

Ripbozo

[bitter palm]

wait

i just checked sod tuning for some reason

[eternal sundial]

Now make it 40%+conduit

[unreal onyx]

50% while they’re at it

At least

[eternal sundial]

It was 50% with conduit in sl

Cuz it did dam

[unreal onyx]

Might be controversial but I liked the soulbind system in SL

Make them changeable on the go and it would be cool

[eternal sundial]

It was better than what fury has now

Pov change 2 spells entire expansion

[bitter palm]

arms same playstyle the entire expac

xd

[unreal onyx]

SL fury was good for muscle memory

[eternal sundial]

But good build diversity in keystone

[bitter palm]

true

[eternal sundial]

Many many talents of the tree actually used

[bitter palm]

even improved slam!

[eternal sundial]

We only never used storm wall

Rest we did use in this expansion bar unhinged, storm of death

[unreal onyx]

SL arms was a snoozer

[eternal sundial]

Or whatever the extendo was

[bitter palm]

sl arms was good

[eternal sundial]

Being the highest st spec in m+ was fun

Plus dying the threat

[worthy mountain]

Plonk + profit

[eternal sundial]

@bitter palm roar is always the perfect AA replace

But not quite...

Miss her

[bitter palm]

roar isn't a replacement for aa

spear is

replace spear

with aa

and give me

personal pi

dreamweaver

bro where is information on pandamonioum release wtf

[eternal sundial]

Dream would suck major dick on last 2 this raid

[bitter palm]

xantage told me yesterday it was today

[eternal sundial]

@young swan frenchman tell us

[bitter palm]

istg if its today for na

[eternal sundial]

If it's today ill be so fuckin cooked for work ill call in sick

[young swan]

ptr is today at some point

the actual release prob isnt until like june or may

by today i mean friday

[eternal sundial]

Thank you Mr Canada

[bitter palm]

Thank you Mr Canada

[young swan]

I think i remember seeing 4pm pst but i might just be making that up

[eternal sundial]

It's friday in the right time zone

[unreal onyx]

Roar at least is uncapped

But AA has knockdown

[south kayak]

Finally

[unreal onyx]

Replace OF with condemn and bring bsck Theotar mastery shade

[unreal onyx]

Spear+ condemn supremacy

[south kayak]

NOOOOOOOOOOOo

[unreal onyx]

Im cooking like roidstack I feel

[final birch]

All you need

[timber warren]

are fury warriors able to wield two of the same crafted 2h weapon or do they need to be different ones?

[sudden tusk]

you can use two of the same

if you cant equip two of the same item it will say Unique-Equipped in its tooltip

[timber warren]

sweet ty ❤️

[sudden tusk]

it'll look like that

[fleet sorrel]

[fervent turtle]

hmm whats weird here on trainings dummy and S4 build: In execute range, after rampage i have like 0.6 sec CD left on execute. But when i press Raging Blow right after the Rampage the CD of execute seems to reset instantly from 0.6 to 0 ..?!

[oblique trail]

It's because the cooldown of Execute resolves during the GCD after you used Raging Blow

It doesn't magically get put off cooldown, unless you get a Sudden Death proc

[fervent turtle]

should i then rather wait the 0.6 sec to have simply go Rampage, execute, rampage, execute... or should i fill the 0.6 with another Raging blow?

waiting feels clunky but im afraid using RB would be a dps loss

[oblique trail]

Fill with an RB, otherwise Exe is higher priority

[fervent turtle]

alright

just wonder if 0.6 secs are worth filling with a lower dps spell. so when i got a GCD of lets say 1 sec the next heavy hitter after rampage is 1.6 seconds away instead of 0.6 and i wonder if weaving in a RB can compensate that

wait, actually its 1 sec instead of 0.6

[oblique trail]

It is worth it, due to the fact that Fury's GCD is very short with Enrage + Fully stacked Frenzy

[fervent turtle]

still might be quite al loss

[oblique trail]

You're overthinking the loss, since it'd only lead to a loss of an Execute cast throughout the fight if you repeatedly do this delay, however it should not be frequent enough to be an issue

It's not like you're doing nothing in the time it takes for the Execute to come off CD, you're filling it with another damaging ability, unlike current Fury where you typically do absolutely nothing in the event you've got nothing and just waiting for BT to be ready again

[cold jolt]

When I started to use unempoeeted blood thirsts more my dmg SKY rocketed

Bc I had the same issue as u

Kind of

[oblique trail]

He's not talking about the same scenario

[cold jolt]

Oh

Basicslly like there’s be .4 seconds of free time to hit Ana viking

[oblique trail]

It's about next seasons rotation

[cold jolt]

Ability and I’d be like

Ok I’ll just wait

Don’t wait 💀

[oblique trail]

But a rule of thumb is just to press abilities if you can, don't hold, unless there's very good reason to

[cold jolt]

Ya no meme I did well my last raid day

[oblique trail]

Fury's GCD with fully stacked Frenzy and Enrage is very low, so you can quickly lose casts in a fight if you always sit and hold

[cold jolt]

I am benched for other reasons I was told

Which are my fault

[half cargo]

[cold jolt]

Got too weird tldr

[oblique trail]

unlucky

[fading sky]

Warrior hate is real in my guild as well😅

[fervent turtle]

yeah, holding feels awkward, even when its just 0.5 secs

[cold jolt]

It’s completely my fault so I’m only upset at myself

I basically just did the usual bomani random weird shit

[fading sky]

That is called zugging

[cold jolt]

Need to not turn off my filters

Bc not everyone is okay with it

It’s a lesson tho fr

[fading sky]

Ah if its not gameplay, but toxicity i get it🤣, happens though

[cold jolt]

No noy toxxity just

[tardy lark]

@oblique trail did you int raid last night or did i vouch good

[cold jolt]

Like memes that go too far

From what I understand

[fading sky]

Kek find new guild

[oblique trail]

I died to a firebeam because I focused too much on the seed I was gonna soak during the beam + seed overlap, but still flew fine and didn't die otherwise

we one pulled Tindral so had no way to make up for it either

[cold jolt]

I like them, I’ll just wait it out I think

Idk

It’s an issue with me I sssure u

[oblique trail]

Which like

That one death is a big enough issue

[cold jolt]

I’ve weirder out people before

[half cargo]

You seem oddly proud of it

[cold jolt]

Notnjsit a this guild thing

No

I literally said I need to fix it

And I feel bad

[half cargo]

We recently booted someone for what sounds exactly the same as what you’re describing

[tardy lark]

i see Splat inted as well

[oblique trail]

He had an incident

🐀

[cold jolt]

Im not dloriftinf this

[sick viper]

bro's scarin the hoes

[cold jolt]

Glorifying

[fading sky]

Ok, if u feel that, but in gen its better to find a guild that have same humor

[oblique trail]

Tried to squeeze between a lot of star fragments

[tardy lark]

I see Krille coach him

[oblique trail]

Couldn't

[tardy lark]

Just press dark pact or

unkillable warlock

[cold jolt]

Im literslly accepting that I need to change

[oblique trail]

Yeah I'll be sure to tell him next time

[sick viper]

how tf are u not single bomani

[tardy lark]

He needs it

[oblique trail]

At least I mostly topped damage or was near top all fights

So that's the most important bit

• no messups except that beam

[cold jolt]

Bc it’s when I get comfy around ppl I can say some odd shit

Im reality I’m a sweet caring loving dude

But that doesn’t excuse it

[oblique trail]

Also Krille smells he rescue'd me off Fyrakkus platform?

Was not aware you could

[cold jolt]

I don’t intentionally try to say dumb shit I just take memes too gsr

[sick viper]

its the assburgers

[cold jolt]

But I’m very self owning to it and i try to work on it

[tardy lark]

what a warm welcome

ill be sure not to tell donsk lol

[cold jolt]

But it’s hard bc I need to learn to draw lines on certain things

[oblique trail]

he tried to on Tindral as well

but he fk'd up

[sick viper]

I dont draw lines I snort em

[cold jolt]

I csnt even smell@my nose is perma broke

[sick viper]

u do coke?!?!

[cold jolt]

No

[sick viper]

lame

[cold jolt]

Nose is just perma stuffed

[oblique trail]

bro

[cold jolt]

Not fixable

Sorry I’ll stop off topic I usually don’t rant this long I apologize

[sick viper]

just like stick somethin up there

[bitter palm]

holy

[barren dagger]

Nothing like the feeling of doing lines and blasting keys

It’s the key to pushing

[fervent turtle]

why not

[sick viper]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-the-plate-gif-23335072

[gaunt sonnet]

fury chat perfectly normal this morning

[tardy lark]

As per usual

[cold jolt]

Im excited for fsted

I heard that they’re cooking something different for fsted

[tardy lark]

[cold jolt]

Need all the copiam I can get

[oblique trail]

They've confirmed they're not doing affixes like in SL

So cope all you want

[bitter palm]

good

fuck those affixes

[cold jolt]

Idk archi mentioned soemrtiny

Something

In this chat

[ornate gust]

Did they buff our single target in S4?

[cold jolt]

Like they got something cooking I beleive he said

Maybe I’m wrong idk

Maybe it was the mop stuff kegit don’t know

Also apparently the crafted gear you craft next season csn use sockets from this season

[south kayak]

HI

morning

[cold jolt]

Gm box how was your sleep

[south kayak]

It was mid

yours?

[cold jolt]

Going to sleep rn

Im bed rsther

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cat-cat-sleepy-cat-yawn-cat-yawning-cat-cuddling-gif-15776729946187212353

[bitter palm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077655483344764978/1226274302102605935/togif-1-1.gif

[warm crag]

stop posting this fucked up cat owl

this is fucked up

[half cargo]

Majestic creature

[tardy lark]

Sponge angy

[bitter palm]

truly

[bitter palm]

is it possible to set fatality stacks to begin the fight with on execute patchwerk

[tardy lark]

fairly sure you can, but im not sure how

ill investigate

@bitter palm are you looking to do a specific amount of stacks or

[bitter palm]

yeah i will just run patchwerk see how many stacks and put it into execute patchwerk

to simulate fatlaity

so it isn't a "dead" talent

since its a talent that contributes to our execute

and 35-30 is too short to be realistic

[tardy lark]

ah, then you can just add "debuff.fatality.stack=x" in expert options im pretty sure

[bitter palm]

tysm i will try it now

is there a way to find out how many stacks of fatality on patchwer or do i have to do math

[tardy lark]

I think there is if you do a sim and check the html report

[bitter palm]

y debuff.fatality.stack=40 is generating an error

[bitter palm]

ye there is i was looking at fatal mark proc for some reason

if i go to debuffs i found it

on the dummy

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/handshake-dog-doggo-dogs-mans-best-friend-gif-10826812

[slim coral]

109 fatal mark stacks pog

[flat river]

no affixes? :O

[upbeat sentinel]

By recrafting it up in ilvl, ya?

[oblique trail]

yes

[bitter palm]

i asked in raidbots discord hopefully someone who isnt clueless responds

went through the entire repo to find anything related to fatality

and fatal mark

nothing

druids have for example

druid.initial_moon_stage (default: 0) Set the starting state of the New Moon talent. 0: New Moon, 1: Half Moon, 2: Full Moon

so i thought arms had warrior.fatal_mark_stacks= or something

[upbeat sentinel]

they will make a system identical to affixes and call it something else

i am calling it

[bitter palm]

but i guess that needs to be implemented

[oblique trail]

Ion already said they're not doing this

[warm crag]

love ion for this

[bitter palm]

ion my beloved

thank you for listening

[tardy lark]

Im sure they do in some obskure way. I Can dig further when I get home

[bitter palm]

i couldnt find anything

[south kayak]

Test

[brittle crow]

what do i farm for now 😔

tusks was my weekly routine

[barren dagger]

Try farming io

Its push week baby

[slim pollen]

Dragon manuscripts/cosmetics (som are from daily looted rares), sepulcher, SoD, ny'alotha (any other old raids for mounts/tier sets)
Some of the weekly/daily Waiting for patch things I do 😄

[brittle crow]

ig i have to finish up plunderstorm renown

[glad coyote]

how is fury looking next patch compared to arms in m+?

[barren dagger]

Arms S+ tier

Fury F-

[warm crag]

perish in flames fury

[clever belfry]

silence heathen!

[tidal kindle]

Farm some tomatos

I got a nice row of cucumbers, bell peps and jalapeno growing

[near loom]

Can someone please confirm what tier set we are getting in season 4? I have looked everywhere and I have seen that we will be getting our season 2 tier set bonuses and I have also seen that we will be getting our season 3 tier set bonuses?

[oblique trail]

We'll get the season 2 set in S4

[near loom]

Ok and just to double check thats the season 2 look AND set bonuses?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[fleet sorrel]

[near loom]

Sweet, thank you very much

[sullen dove]

[jovial coral]

Wdym we get season 2 in season 4

[glad coyote]

everybody voted on what tier set they anted for season 4

you either picked 1-2-3

[unreal onyx]

(they voted wrong)

((it was a fraud (alledgedly)))

[hollow elk]

Trolls voted for s2 everyone that knew better wanted s3 alas trolls got more alts than actual players

[summer quail]

voted s2 coz it feels better to play in m+

[modest condor]

im so glad s2 won

if i had to play s3 in m+ for another season i probably just wouldnt have done any keys

[summer quail]

gonna clear all heroic raids once for the shitty mount then never step into raid again, it's an m+ season

[bitter palm]

same

[sullen dove]

oh boy can’t wait to run the same dungeons again with no new affixes!!! but it’s different now because!! because!!!

[flat river]

do flightstones reset after each season?

or do they stay

[summer quail]

reset

[flat river]

kk

[dense elbow]

I just hope we are turned well, and dont have to suffer months of being low mid

[wild mica]

their reasoning for removing affixes was that we're getting new dungeons every season. I thought they would come up with an affix in season 4 since its the same dungeons coming back.

[bitter palm]

im glad they removed seasonal affixes

fuck prideful

i love skipping a "reward"

cause its impossible to kill

thundering was w/e but it was definitely cringe

[wild mica]

i liked prideful personally, but there are also a lot of other things they could do to keep it interesting

[modest condor]

prideful was fine up to a certain point

well except for the routing limitations and ninjapulls potentially ruining the key

but at a certain point you had to commit cds to kill them, and then it's like.. yay 30% damage bonus when you dont have any cds

[bitter palm]

prideful was so shit in higher keys

same with s4 affix

from sl

it was cool until zulgamux had 5x more ehp

than a boss on tyran

[blissful kestrel]

Prideful getting one shot in necrotic wake was fun

[modest condor]

at least you could skip zulgamux, and the other guys were a lot more bearable

[bitter palm]

true

[dense elbow]

They could just bring back reaping, make it so when you kill off the wave, you get a 10% power boost that stacks for the rest of the key.
Anything to make players get more powerful and have fun (AoE blast) in low to high keys.

[wild mica]

necrotic wake my beloved

all i want for TWW season 1 is maw of souls and necrotic wake

[modest condor]

ew no

they would have to make so many changes to necrotic wake for it to be bearable it would just be a completely different dungeon

[wild mica]

i'd take any fun dungeon over old shit redesigned dungeons like vortex pinnacle

[summer quail]

i think we're getting slands dungeons at some point in tww, necrotic wake is not one of the ones i want

[dense elbow]

VP was alright, just kinda meh. Either way, S4 just lacks something to hype up the season

Same old, no twist, is kinda uninspired

[modest condor]

the whole part before the first boss was dumb, the last boss adds were overtuned

otherwise i think vp was alright

[bitter palm]

whoever

decided

to keep mistrals

in the game

in vp

should get fired

immediately

[barren dagger]

DF dungeons were dog for the most part

[dense elbow]

Did we get a power creep cape for S4, or was that the silly time walking stuff?

[summer quail]

which ones are mistrals? the shield guys that do area denial?

[barren dagger]

It’s a straight L to not innovate a bit and bring back some new dungeons

[bitter palm]

yes

[summer quail]

agreed

[bitter palm]

i dont think they care honestly

about s4

timerunning pandamonium

[summer quail]

they are designed like garbage, just beyond anti fun

[bitter palm]

and plunderstorm is a lot of shit to do

until tww

[dense elbow]

Plunderstorm is done, and I kinda don't want to farm in a 2nd game mode. Same reason I don't so classic+

[wild mica]

32 mounts tho

[dense elbow]

I just want to blast on my warr and have fun

[wild mica]

number goes up, monke brain is happy

[bitter palm]

im pretty happy with df ngl

was a good expac

[dense elbow]

Better than SL that is for sure

[bitter palm]

even though warriors were pretty shit

im happy

[wild mica]

just because we're not top 1 meta spec doesn't mean we were shit

we were pretty good

[bitter palm]

yeah insane design

arms

same gameplay the entire expac

[summer quail]

warriors were pretty decent overall powerwise

[bitter palm]

and pre 10.0.5 arms was the worst designed

[wild mica]

last time i enjoyed arms was in dragon soul so i cant speak to that

[bitter palm]

spec ive ever seen

[summer quail]

it's fun in df but just objectively flawed

[bitter palm]

^

very flawed

its a complete shitshow

[wild mica]

actually thats a lie, i loved the early s3 ww spam fervor of battle spec as arms

but it got nerfed

[summer quail]

it didn't get nerfed

[bitter palm]

its just shit

[wild mica]

it got nerfed from ptr didnt it

maybe im just misremembering

[summer quail]

overpower got buffed, so now it's worse

[bitter palm]

dreadnaught buffs!!!

lets put even more power into a filler!

[wild mica]

is it really a filler if its one of the 2 abilities you press

[bitter palm]

you should see the prio list for cleave build

its a total shitshow

and always has been

[brittle crow]

i looked at it and decided i cannot learn how to play arms

broke my brain

[summer quail]

yes, for example season 2 fury i would say everything is a filler but rampage

[brittle crow]

thats a take

season 2 fury ur only filler is whirlwind

[bitter palm]

the bloat is crazy

on arms in aoe

ww is filler

rb os bt exe are technically builders

[barren dagger]

That char carries over though. That’s a big deal for me. I might just make a second warr

[bitter palm]

and rampage sender

spender

[dense elbow]

Everything that ain't rampage, is a builder. Even shockwave grants rage

[bitter palm]

tbf with current arms i wouldnt call op a filler

[summer quail]

op is too strong with current arms ye

[dense elbow]

Some would call it overpowered?

[modest condor]

badum tss

[bitter palm]

[fast mural]

wtf are these S3 fury warrior fans smoking i just played PTR and played with the S2 set its like everyone forgot what it was like

[eternal sundial]

difficult to play

[ember apex]

got CE last night boys, walking around today w/ a little extra pep in the step

[manic gulch]

s3 is wheelchair fury and the worst iteration of fury ever

[eternal sundial]

took you long enough

[ember apex]

"she prob knows I got CE"

[still swift]

s3dragonflight is wheelchair fury and the worst iteration of fury ever

[fast mural]

nah S2 is great

S2 is what fury should be baseline

imo

[ember apex]

i agree

[still swift]

ask 10 get 5 diff

[clever belfry]

some people just got dropped as a kid

happens

[ember apex]

can u guys mod @fast mural

[fast mural]

no

[barren dagger]

As in you fucking love s2 cause its based?

[fast mural]

im just here to talk shit

[mossy fox]

s2 masterrace

(just fix numbers blizz pls)

[ember apex]

yo even critcake is bored this is a party

board

dont correct me

[barren dagger]

Just need 15% aura buff to be competitive

[fast mural]

this season i went to arms cause it was more fun
rn playing PTR and im leaning towards fury when it comes to gameplay

[barren dagger]

No worries

[fast mural]

fuck you blizz

for making me like worse spec

[ember apex]

imagine being arms on tindral or fyrakk. i'd rather slice my nipples off

[olive wraith]

You liked having a flat damage profile?

[clever belfry]

arms s1 playstyle is just button bloat fiesta

[fast mural]

arms on fyrakk is awsome

on tindrall im first flying group so it didnt matter

[ember apex]

who remembers the mythic kurog arms build/rotation

[fast mural]

[ember apex]

mythic kurog arms was the worst version of arms ive ever played in my entire life

[fast mural]

but we dont have IP

[shell jackal]

does anyone have an import code for the s4 talent setup? the ol' AM/ravager set

[mossy fox]

gotta love having 50 sameish buttons in aoe

[fast mural]

does the arms tree even change with S4 ?

[ember apex]

arms thunderclapping for aoe dmg

[fast mural]

have you read mountain thane

[ember apex]

im not gonna be playing 'mountain thane' big dog, im a slayer

always been slayer

[amber arch]

who can immune the soak on first boss of Rise? and does tank have to be in it too? or just like a hunter with turtle?
I'm in a party with a BM hunter and outlaw rogue

[final birch]

Not sure about bm but rogue can

[fast mural]

what if tuning says no ?

im gonna be a channeling spec main (arms)

[ember apex]

they already said the ascendancy trees aren't gonna be unevenly tuned

[final birch]

What key lvl is it tho

@amber arch

[amber arch]

24-25

[ember apex]

everyone should just get in and do it normal at that level

[final birch]

Dont immune

[eternal sundial]

arms fucking cranks on fyrakk

[ember apex]

i was unaware

[amber arch]

im sure we could all soak it and be fine, but in my experience we always lose healer or hunter in there

pugs btw

[final birch]

Immune starts being good at 29-30 tyra

[fast mural]

also because the only time dmg matters is P3

perfect for arms

[amber arch]

I mean why wouldnt you immune it tho

[final birch]

Because people use their immunities before

And they fuck up

Because they forget

[amber arch]

the 2 dispells usually bring ppl low, then the soak finishes them off

[final birch]

Idk its really not hard to heal that boss

Just press something

I always like to rally on first dispels

Later on healer has haste

Only thing how people can die there is if healer fucks up the dispel and dispels right after the dot ticks the guy with debuff

[amber arch]

interesting

but can rogues cloak the soak?

also, if someone immunes while the entire party is in the soak, does the damage only split 4 ways instead of 5?

[summer quail]

EB good in raid for s4 but that's the only difference raid wise

[amber arch]

as if the immuning person wasnt in the soak?

[final birch]

Splits into 5

Im pretty sure

If 5 people are there

Because person with immunity

Just doesnt take damage

But he still soaks

[fast mural]

whatd EB if not ebon might ?

[amber arch]

okay, just want to make sure im not trolling anyone on my pally if I bubble in there

[final birch]

Youre not

[amber arch]

kk ty

[final birch]

Only thing you can troll with bubble there

Is if you bubble with debuff on you

As that dispels it

[summer quail]

i would think EM would be ebon might but i just think of elysian might if you say EM. EB is exhilarating blows, the ms reset talent

[final birch]

Played eb on smolderon recently

Felt very very nice

Getting 7 ms in a row

[summer quail]

tho elysian might doesn't exist anymore, champions might

[summer quail]

oh ye i can see that being good on smoldy

[amber arch]

ya had a rogue cloak that right as the healer dispelled the other dps

[fast mural]

yo arms with spear sounds pog

gonna crank 1 mil MS

[manic gulch]

are the statistics wowhead releases accurate ?

[shell jackal]

never fully committed to trying arms

prolly should

[manic gulch]

most recent one puts frost dk as the highest dps spec in raid

isn't frost dk the worst dps spec in s3 ?

[fast mural]

logs are all fucked cause aug

but those are the numbers

[manic gulch]

i thought they could detect aug and ignore logs with them

because they are not accurate

[gilded pawn]

It’s hard

75% of logs have Aug

You can’t just completely remove every Aug log

[fast gull]

ahhhhh damn - i just bought an equipped a helm from the raid vendor.. and realised i bought the PVP version by mistake ><

[fast mural]

just wait till the logs getting more fucked cause they made some new aug hooks

[manic gulch]

why is that company such a circus

[fast mural]

the dude who made aug dipped for a reason

didnt wanna deal with this

[manic gulch]

aug was a mistake

but classic blizz will never admit their mistakes and go back to them

[fast mural]

now we will never truly know how good a class is

who needs that anyway

[summer quail]

aug can be an okay spec, they just need to flip it around where they do majority of their own damage. have some small buffs on people

[manic gulch]

so shadow priest

does damage and brings pi to buff

[fast mural]

except PI doesnt count towards priest

[hardy cargo]

aug was fun for about 2 weeks when I was seeing all the posts of people linking details of them doing less than tank dam and bitching about it

[fast mural]

and then you realized the season is fucked

at least for m+

[manic gulch]

i remember so many switching to aug to get boosted

because they would accept them no matter what

in very high keys

until they were nerfed

and ofc the famous sarkareth one shot with the stacked aug raid group

but i'm sure blizz tested the spec before releasing it

definitely

[ember apex]

they're saying that there's gonna be S4 tuning next week

[fast mural]

just like they test raid bosses

[fast mural]

who is that ?

dev?

[ember apex]

umm let me check

[manic gulch]

streamer probably

[ember apex]

stand by

raider.IO guy

[fast mural]

ah streamer with inside info

[manic gulch]

wouldn't a dev know if changes happen or not

[fast mural]

[ember apex]

no hes the raider.io guy

[manic gulch]

they do test those

to see if the hidden auras are really hidden

[fast mural]

didnt a dev send a msg to max saying like " good job i didnt know some things were even possible but you did it "

they dont kill the bosses they just test if mechanics work

[manic gulch]

yes

[fast mural]

fetid

[manic gulch]

that counts as testing for blizz

[quiet geyser]

Dev and arms 📉
Fury 📈

[manic gulch]

they also tune bosses real time to make the world first last longer

[modest condor]

just assign your cooldowns better 4Head

[fast mural]

loved that response

[modest condor]

not like they needed lust + pots + all cooldowns just to kill 1 set of adds

[manic gulch]

have they ever explained

what is their reasoning

behind adding so much trash between bosses

besides busting balls

i get that part

[fast mural]

BoEs

[modest condor]

blizzard cares a lot about theme

[storm rune]

Isn't that just Jordan who used to live in prot channel?

[fast mural]

ngl they could put a respawn area before everyboss without removing trash

[manic gulch]

like ffxiv does

[fast mural]

ff14 raids have no trash

[quiet geyser]

The trash also adds lil mini bosses throughout the raid sometimes too. Haven't seen it as much lately though

[manic gulch]

the dog

[ember apex]

i have 0 idea

[manic gulch]

in volcoross's corridor

is the one that comes to mind

[fast mural]

like council of dreams

[manic gulch]

last 3 bosses have no trash

[fast mural]

based

[manic gulch]

and last 2 have their spawn points in the same area

amazing design

[fast mural]

last 2 have checkpoints actually

[manic gulch]

why can't they do the same for everything else

[fast mural]

cause everything else too easy

imagine tindrall with no checkpoint

[manic gulch]

we need more gatekeeping

[fast mural]

and you have 30 second pulls in the beginning

[manic gulch]

[storm rune]

Yeah Jordan is just the discord version of that person every server has who lives in trade chat

[silver mantle]

Season 4 seems like a banger

[ember apex]

yeah i just blocked him on twitter i been seeing his tweets and just now saw his twitter bio

[silver mantle]

jk

[manic gulch]

the mop gamemode

looks interesting

but its blizz

so until we actually see itr

can't tell

[ember apex]

i mean plunderstorm was dope AF

[manic gulch]

blunderstorm

[fast mural]

imagine if they reworked raids in mop instead of giving us another tier

they wouldnt do that right ?

[ember apex]

is it possible for u guys to be happy

can that occur possibly

[modest condor]

no

[fast mural]

we play wow

[manic gulch]

yes

the question you should be asking

[fast mural]

wow players cant be happy

[manic gulch]

is

"can blizzard stop cutting corners at everything they do"

let me check the plunderstorm statistics page

did they answer the most asked question yet

[fast mural]

they might let some interns do plunderstorm and the mop thing while main team works on TWW

would make sense

[manic gulch]

"how many people kept playing after 40 renown"

[ember apex]

some 'intern' did not do plunderstorm, i know that for a fact btw

[fast mural]

i would love to know that

[manic gulch]

plunderstorm

[fast mural]

wasted dev time then

[manic gulch]

is a different game

ported to wow

it was a standalone game that flopped

blizz bought the studio

and made them port the game to wow

[fast mural]

if they did that when BRs blew up maybe i would have a different reaction

[manic gulch]

the name of the original game was spell something

[ember apex]

spellbreak

[manic gulch]

yes

that one

geniuses at blizz

[barren dagger]

Yeah so that studio couldnt have made a new raid anyways

[fast mural]

i even played spellbreak when it was in early acces

[barren dagger]

So its irrelevant

[fast mural]

was way better than plunderstorm

[manic gulch]

playerbase is asking for another raid tier and they give us reused content and a time limited battle royale

[fast mural]

the only good thing is that its all recolors so you can skip it

unless you care about mount number go up i guess

[ember apex]

ur acting like u had ur credit card secretly charged

for the funding of pludnerstorm

it's incl in ur sub whats the problem

[barren dagger]

The mop thing actually looks really fun

[ember apex]

ppl have been liking it

[fast mural]

im just mad i had to play it till 40 for the transmog

[ember apex]

then dont play itttttt

bro what

[barren dagger]

you dont have to play it wtf

[fast mural]

[barren dagger]

i didnt even play it lmao

[ember apex]

dude i got my renown to level 3

realized it wasnt for me

and stopped

and im a collector

[fast mural]

but there was a 2h sword transmog

[manic gulch]

without transmogs very few would play it

[ember apex]

that's not even close to true

just anecdotally

[barren dagger]

Muh “collectors”

[fast mural]

i think thats 100% true

[ember apex]

i know from 2 guilds im in

people who play PS like it and play it for it

[manic gulch]

still waiting for those statistics

but nobody is answering in the thread

so many asked for the % that kept playing after maxing renown

[ember apex]

can u not queue into anyone or what

[fast mural]

meanwhile i only know people who play it for the transmogs and hate it

[hasty path]

It’s not

[manic gulch]

[ember apex]

those people are masochists then

[hasty path]

I know devs who worked on PS. The PS team is not the spellbreak team.

[manic gulch]

oh

[fast mural]

who isnt

[manic gulch]

its statistics from blizz

no way they gonna reveal how many played after maxing renown

[fast mural]

mythic raiders are masochists too

[manic gulch]

[ember apex]

that's not a relevant metric

[fast mural]

it is tho

[hasty path]

Plunderstorm wasn’t meant to be a long term success

[ember apex]

it only matters in the microcosm of ur really niche argument

[fast mural]

cause then you can filter out all the people who stopped after they got the transmog

[fast mural]

how do you know if its niche if we dont know the numbers ?

[ember apex]

if ur coming up w/ KPIs for blizz

number Players / Montly Active Users after max renown rank

isnt a metric you care about

sry

idk why thats bold

[sullen dove]

remove the #

[ember apex]

ty

[sullen dove]

hashtag make word big

[manic gulch]

do you need dragonflight to play plunderstorm

or just a sub

[fast mural]

just a sub

[ember apex]

just a sub

[sullen dove]

just sub i think

yer

[hasty path]

Plunderstorm was also worked on by a single digit amount of people at any given time

[fast mural]

nice thing to make us play against classic andies

artificial canon fodder

[ember apex]

are u in socal

[hasty path]

I’m not

Chad

[fast mural]

immediate red flag

working at blizz

[storm rune]

So catfishing on tinder is the best way to obtain leaks, I'm on it

[manic gulch]

so it was a tinder angle

do you use breastmilk for bait too ?

i heard peeps in blizz are into that

[left perch]

what the f word guys

[ember apex]

im a guy....

[hasty path]

Fungus!

[wild mica]

Carlo with the wisdom bomb

[ember apex]

[gilded pawn]

Carlo W

Bro is mind controlled by blizzard to play against his will

[manic gulch]

[hasty path]

But but fomo

Simply don’t fear it

4head

I got like 23 renown and went ok I’m bored now

🙂

[gilded pawn]

Simply like

Don’t play

[hasty path]

^

[gilded pawn]

Go workout

Get a job

Scam some old people online

[hasty path]

I want to not have a job actually this shit sucks

[hasty path]

That’s what I should do

[gilded pawn]

Rmt

[hasty path]

What if I kill @covert blaze by feeding him to a frenzy of hungry sharks off the coast of Indonesia

[final birch]

Wait wrong reply

[hasty path]

LMAO

[final birch]

Any tips

[hasty path]

I can teach you

Do you have PayPal?

[final birch]

Negative

Only revolut

Do I pose as long lost grandson or

[sullen dove]

timerunning ptr

[hasty path]

That’s okay I will simply need to familiarize myself with it. Send me your accoutn and personal information so that I can do so then after that we can begin

[final birch]

Can I send it here

Also do u need my pin

[untold heart]

Is arms or fury looking like the play for season 4?

[olive wraith]

Arms

Atm anyways

[hasty path]

Yes also fax me your Social Security and birth certificate

[clever path]

Arms > Fury most patches tbh

[untold heart]

Which tier set do you pick?

[modern shoal]

Whatever you like more is the play

[covert blaze]

Just woke up to this message
Lovely

[olive wraith]

You don’t get to pick

[clever path]

You don't, you get S2

[hasty path]

Good morning king

[olive wraith]

Arms has s1 tier

[untold heart]

Ok thanks!!

[covert blaze]

I'm on the ivory coast eating vermillion snapper

[hasty path]

Those sharks gonna be eating you like vermillion snapper

[storm rune]

Sounds like Lana Del Ray lyrics

[covert blaze]

Cluegi

[oblique trail]

[final birch]

First thing in the morning

[hasty path]

Okay please do not mention this to any authorities or family members they may get jealous but my information is only for you my friend

[bitter palm]

mod abuse

:cluegi:

[covert blaze]

@fleet sorrel can we have cluegi so not only banezi uses it

[sour frigate]

u can steal the emote to ur server

:uvi

ah u cant use it here

ripbozo

[covert blaze]

cluegi indeed

[jovial coral]

You've changed a lot after becoming stormforged

[oblique trail]

you don't have to agree with this Rhozo guy

[sour frigate]

but hes right

u can use forbidden emotes

[left perch]

mods have too much power, when they go to sleep we need to post gifs

[slim coral]

[dense elbow]

[manic gulch]

[fallen ginkgo]

Did you die studying or what does this mean

[dapper goblet]

[edgy widget]

Wish I had this in my main raid, fr

[mossy fox]

insane

[edgy widget]

I also got sprint, so ya know, something useful

[eternal sundial]

that is a legion item in MOP

hm

[edgy widget]

Timerunning isn't Classic, it's still Dragonflight design

[eternal sundial]

very sad

cant escape fatality it seems

😔

[edgy widget]

na this shit is cracked

[frigid zealot]

ngl

this pandaria shit looks fire

fuck fated

gimme panda rn

[eternal sundial]

@frigid zealotlife is a beach and im eating the sand

[frigid zealot]

when life gives u lemons, find a new life

[eternal sundial]

when life gives you lemons rocketlauncher

[wary fjord]

Seeing a DK leap is gonna be wild

[left perch]

Dk with mobility? glory days

don’t say wraith walk

[wary fjord]

Best part will be when you can leap of faith people into frontals

See a ret paladin bubble, and pull you in

[summer quail]

death's advance

🙂 🙂

[left perch]

🪤

[wary fjord]

They should have made rescue one of the abilities

I want to see every spec just be flying around with people

[edgy widget]

oooh I just got stampeding roar

WARRIOR UTILITY

[young swan]

i got vanish and door of shadows

poggers

[edgy widget]

I got a meta gem that turns you into a Diablo Conduit Shrine 🙃

[fast mural]

why they gotta do titansgrip like that

[south kayak]

Wait the PTR is up? I forgot