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#fury
brittle crow
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tough ether
Hello! Fury warrior is by far the spec I like the most playing, simple rotation + "fast paced" + melee. Played a bit of Arms aswell and I find it fun aswell because of bstorm. Tried playing a ranged spec and absolutely hated it. Tried havoc and it feels strange to dash around.
if you guys had to recommend me another spec to play what would it be? (m+ focused)
young swan
probably ret?
Its relatively simple, maybe a little bit slower paced (although not much), and melee with the added benefit of having increased melee ranged
summer quail
would say outlaw but it's not simple, very fast paced tho
tough ether
probably ret?
hmm idk not a lot of options remaigning tbh xd. was looking at dk since i like the appearance of one of the abilities, but its never really that popular on m+.
enhancement seems like too hard tbh
same problem with rogue (outlaw for example). I see a lot of people saying its fast paced like fury but i saw a bit about it and looked way to hard for my brain
gleaming tulip
Outlaw. Fast paced, relatively simple once you get the hang of it, and tanky af.
Frost (oblit spec) is also on the simple side and decently high APM
Though tbf, frost is closer to arms than fury, so take that for what you will
covert blaze
outlaw is pretty hard to play properly nowadays
hallow sphinx
would not recommend FDK, tank will just pull out of your DND and you lose all your aoe
covert blaze
would not recommend FDK, tank will just pull out of your DND and you lose all yo...
poggers
gleaming tulip
Outlaw is one of those specs that is complicated on first glance but really isn't once you get used to it.
Spend as much time in stealth (vanish, shadow dance) as you can, use dispatch out of stealth at 6+ combo points, between the eyes in stealth at 5+ combo points
tough ether
outlaw is pretty hard to play properly nowadays
what I say might sound rtrded but I see outlaw rogue doing all the "pre pull" stuff and i already want to kms
covert blaze
can't wait to see what they do to fix dk aoe in tww
gleaming tulip
would not recommend FDK, tank will just pull out of your DND and you lose all yo...
Yeah, that's very fair
gleaming tulip
what I say might sound rtrded but I see outlaw rogue doing all the "pre pull" st...
Pre-pull stuff is 3-4 things, it's not too bad
hallow sphinx
FDK is not fun outside of the raid period IMO, and even in the raid it isnt fun rn, chill streak is garbage
meager void
*sighs as the tank dodges Ravager
hallow sphinx
atleast ravager isnt nearly as often as DND
and doesnt tie your cleaving to it
DND is awful
covert blaze
what I say might sound rtrded but I see outlaw rogue doing all the "pre pull" st...
Nah it's fair
Outlaw is very punishing and pretty complex after the rework (crackshot)
sick viper
bring back legion outlaw
tough ether
Nah it's fair
Outlaw is very punishing and pretty complex after the rework (crac...
I also feel like everytime i look at another spec its always really really confusing
(i started playing wow this expansion)
covert blaze
Fury is very simple
sick viper
(i started playing wow this expansion)
final birch
I also feel like everytime i look at another spec its always really really confu...
I mean new stuff
always seems more complex than it is
dh seemed hard when I first tried it
covert blaze
I also feel like everytime i look at another spec its always really really confu...
That's normal
Don't let it intimidate you
final birch
but it's literally 3 buttons and pressing your cds to do decent dam
gleaming tulip
Nah it's fair
Outlaw is very punishing and pretty complex after the rework (crac...
I'd say punishing but not overly complex, personally
covert blaze
Give stuff a good try before you give up, you never know what you'll end up liking the most
sick viper
I like how mobility plays a part in dh's rotation
edgy widget
Funny cause every DH hates it lol
covert blaze
I'd say punishing but not overly complex, personally
More complex than most melee spec imo. Only said "pretty complex" tho
meager void
I like how mobility plays a part in dh's rotation
That Terros hole holds many of the victims of that "mobility"
modest condor
sennarth too
sick viper
lol
gleaming tulip
More complex than most melee spec imo. Only said "pretty complex" tho
Yeah, that's fair. I suppose my perspective is a bit out of whack with that, considering the melee I've played most this expansion are outlaw, sin, enhance, windwalker, arms, fury, and survival xD
sick viper
I like any melee spec that makes me feel like im playing dmc
tough ether
Give stuff a good try before you give up, you never know what you'll end up liki...
🫡
Tbh my problem is the group finder. It always makes me look for another spec to play 🫣
sick viper
RB spam fury felt that way but too bad it does dogshit st dam
covert blaze
@hallow sphinx is frost gonna be better in s4 with the selected tier set?
hallow sphinx
<@204367291767324672> is frost gonna be better in s4 with the selected tier set?
FDK looks good for s4, the current tier set is just so god awful i could rant about it all day
only problem is still playing the same bullshit weve played forever
gleaming tulip
In retrospect, I did miss the "simple rotation" part of the initial question. Derp.
I think in that it's just ret (not as fast paced, simple, very good) and frost (frustrating cleave with dnd, but simple and relatively quick) fit the bill. I also forgot about the current tier set and people not liking it, since I haven't touched my DK this season xD
covert blaze
FDK looks good for s4, the current tier set is just so god awful i could rant ab...
I need to look into the talents frost is gonna play in s4
I might fuck around with it
hallow sphinx
I need to look into the talents frost is gonna play in s4
2h or breath
or both
i can give rn
covert blaze
dm me
hallow sphinx
bet
covert blaze
i'd rather close a door on my nuts than play breath ngl
hallow sphinx
i get it yea
left perch
I tried breath
could never extend like I needed to
oblit cranked and was a fun button to push
final birch
people like inviting ret i think
It's mostly because
ret is super easy to play
and reason people dont invite fury is because they dont like to invite warriors in general
so ret is like the fury that gets the invites
final birch
has some util (not that any of them use it)
manic gulch
ret is what fury would have been if warrior was not the disowned class
final birch
judging by how people use their kit
manic gulch
final birch
most people think only tanks do
final birch
and havoc
young swan
hallow sphinx
I tried breath
had a 3 and a half minute breath in S1 during a shadowmoon burial grounds key
dapper goblet
summer quail
Breath very satisfying until you get a mechanic and have to move out. Then you want to end yourself
hallow sphinx
Breath very satisfying until you get a mechanic and have to move out. Then you w...
you just dont move out
hallow sphinx
yea thats a fake FDK
i would never do that
think i move with breath up during igira if i get the circle
nope
big dam
summer quail
Nymue circle, would you move out with that?
hallow sphinx
play 2h on nymue
hallow sphinx
Nymue circle, would you move out with that?
probably not if i did play breath tho
im a scumbag in farm 100%
summer quail
im a scumbag in farm 100%
I respect it
left perch
CAT STAB STICKER
sudden tusk
probably not if i did play breath tho
i think ive gotten nymue circle maybe twice
the entire tier
hallow sphinx
i think ive gotten nymue circle maybe twice
think ive got it 2-3 times total
very epic
lilac plinth
Haste
bitter palm
and reason people dont invite fury is because they dont like to invite warriors ...
ngl most pug warriors ive played with on my alts
die on opener
9/10 times
cant wait 2 seconds for the tnak to pull
instantly just rip everything or they do stupid shit in general
and arms is very bipolar
u either get a casual who just got into high keys
or u get someone crazy
that plays ip properly dstance and all that shit
slim coral
wich stat is Bis for season 4
Worry about gear first not stats just sim every gear piece
tidal kindle
instantly just rip everything or they do stupid shit in general
I ripped aftershock 2nd global in SL
Only tank who could keep aggro was a bdk of all things
Generally speaking yeah, unless you know the tank can hold aggro - nothing wrong with waiting 3 globals
3 sunders or smth
meager void
cant wait 2 seconds for the tnak to pull
in my defense, I've sometimes given ample time and still got clapped
though I also, sometimes, could have given the tank a sec or 2
tidal kindle
in my defense, I've sometimes given ample time and still got clapped
I remember this one pull in halls
Had hunter rogue + me. They both md'd tank, I waited like 7-8s, IQD + Aftershock, still dead
🪦
gilded pawn
Shouldn’t have crit
tidal kindle
True...
brittle crow
i have obtained noble gardener
covert blaze
threat ripper 3000
young swan
<:Aftershock:742631092326236282> threat ripper 3000 <:Aftershock:742631092326236...
didnt help that tank threat just didnt exist for the entire xpac
eternal sundial
Charge ww bt spear reck dead
stray steeple
eternal sundial
HC augury it depends
Do you care abt ur gear
I have enough gold that id ask for more or not trade
pastel agate
What was the addon that shows on your spell icon next to the floating damage text
clever belfry
u probably looking for Nameplate scrolling text
jolly mist
nameplate sct?
gilded pawn
500k is a solid meal
cold jolt
Who watched the last one piece episode
flat river
Who watched the last one piece episode
I watched the new reincarnated as a slime episode
Season 3 out les goo
cold jolt
I need to watch that but I promised my gf I’d watch fste night stay first
Also I’m back to hunter
My main
Well I wanted ranger
I’ll still play warrior but
eternal sundial
bro gave up
cold jolt
It’s rough man
flat river
Also I’m back to hunter
Bro said Raszageth bow is back time to be OP
flat river
sullen basin
https://tenor.com/view/big-buger-eat-buger-the-rock-burger-gif-22532545
https://tenor.com/view/i-wanna-eat-that-i-want-to-eat-that-ill-eat-that-hungry-starving-gif-14147978
flat river
covert blaze
sullen basin
Real
clever belfry
real and true and bolas
frigid zealot
fleet sorrel
sullen dove
brittle crow
shadowlands meta achievement getting a mount makes me want to do it
but will i
prob not
brittle crow
how much progress did u have when u started tho
modest condor
i had basically 0 in zaralek or forbidden reach, none of the elemental storm achievements, no whelp daycare achievements
brittle crow
that is not shadowlands
brittle crow
mount tho!
modest condor
nah im not going back there
brittle crow
i don't think all the individual metas that make it up give a mount like the df ones do tho
not worth time
anyways i didn't know the daycare became weeklies ill do that quest today maybe
if im not plundering
modest condor
daycare is daily
brittle crow
o
covert blaze
real and true and bolas
still swift
sniffa
ruby tundra
I dont understand, I think im doing everything correctly but I am not doing enough damage
brittle crow
I dont understand, I think im doing everything correctly but I am not doing enou...
what's ur ilvl? also send logs
ruby tundra
what's ur ilvl? also send logs
476 ilvl and I'll send logs after the dungeon I do
clever belfry
<:balls:1061777871376490558>
stop cheat
still swift
<:balls:1061777871376490558>
yellow name detected
mossy fox
yellow names have too much power
fleet sorrel
clever belfry
i should be a yellow name by now smh
❓
clever belfry
or a blue name!
❔
left perch
L + bozo + not yellow + farmed + didn’t ask
covert blaze
<:balls:1061777871376490558>
piss name diff
sullen dove
normal citrus
Haven’t had a chance to look at anything on the beta yet. Any inclination on how we are looking in s4?
ruby tundra
what's ur ilvl? also send logs
I have a log where do I send it
brittle crow
u can just post here
summer quail
Haven’t had a chance to look at anything on the beta yet. Any inclination on how...
we are looking
that's for sure
brittle crow
we are looking
arms stonks going up??
barren dagger
When looking for a new guild, do you guys make a list and send your applications all at once?
brittle crow
i spend an entire day having anxiety first
oblique trail
I just look and send apps as I find guilds that look appealing
barren dagger
Realistically i should prio guilds that have warriors that look shit?
oblique trail
Most follow the same formula so you can basically copy paste most answers
oblique trail
Realistically i should prio guilds that have warriors that look shit?
It helps, but a lot of guilds also just look for straight up good players
So even if they have a warrior doesn't mean your chances are bad
barren dagger
And with regards to telling how good a guild is, is it okay to assume players with like 2.8k rating can be very good but don’t care?
Or is it a bad sign
oblique trail
Don't look at rio at all
modest condor
just look at their world rank and how many hours they raid
oblique trail
There are a lot of high end players that just do weeklies then log off
barren dagger
mmmm okay. I was assuming that decent players that want to improve will be doing m+
brittle crow
if ur gear is maxed id raidlog too
barren dagger
Because i’m not talking super high end revvez type
oblique trail
Yeah
barren dagger
Where it doesn’t matter
oblique trail
I know
modest condor
the vast majority of hof raiders do not do anything past weeklies
summer quail
only thing i would make sure of when applying to a guild, do they have windfury totem? @barren dagger
oblique trail
Perfecto on his rogue was like 2k score or something when I met him a month ish ago
covert blaze
mmmm okay. I was assuming that decent players that want to improve will be doing...
m+ irrelevant, it's a minigame
modest condor
a group i was one once invited me over loboz because i had higher rating xd
thorn venture
@oblique trail Moist.
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> Moist.
no u
modest condor
i did a workshop with him once while farming for the rings
he did like 1.5x my dps
thorn venture
O.O
oblique trail
Loboz build
thorn venture
OwO
covert blaze
mmmm okay. I was assuming that decent players that want to improve will be doing...
I know people that get rank 1s and have like 2700 io cause they only do m+ for gear
thorn venture
I'm not beating the furry allegations with this one
thorn venture
jovial coral
I just look and send apps as I find guilds that look appealing
You look pretty appealing ngl
covert blaze
You look pretty appealing ngl
agree
thorn venture
I know people that get rank 1s and have like 2700 io cause they only do m+ for g...
That's me, the 2000 io casual
brittle crow
do tusks only drop for plate wearers? or can non-plate wearers get it just not get the appearance
will i have to kill garrosh on ALL my characters next expac
left perch
you will
covert blaze
That's me, the 2000 io casual
eroka big noob, surely
brittle crow
😭
modest condor
are you gonna beat that guild that took around 150 pulls to kill it?
brittle crow
are you gonna beat that guild that took around 150 pulls to kill it?
i wonder how close my guild was to that
thorn venture
oh it's only about 100 http://puu.sh/K4sI4/ceddf81b2e.png
No shot
What's the highest pull count on Fyrakk
Dudes out here hitting 1k
tardy lark
dedication
brittle crow
yea you'd have to ask someone more qualified i dont see anything immediately obvious
modest condor
What's the highest pull count on Fyrakk
i saw a stream of a guild with 460 pulls who's best pull was 55%
covert blaze
i saw a stream of a guild with 460 pulls who's best pull was 55%
an irl friend killed it this week
770 pulls or so
brittle crow
sad!
ruby tundra
yea you'd have to ask someone more qualified i dont see anything immediately obv...
are stats important ?
brittle crow
fairly
ruby tundra
what should my highest stat be?
left perch
Wait Baze weren’t you yellow
covert blaze
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/F4612z7TYCHnfh9w
you seem to be double casting rampage a bunch
and doing suboptimal OF avatar windows
brittle crow
you seem to be double casting rampage a bunch
isnt that just ramp showing up 4 times
covert blaze
i can take a better look when i get home
covert blaze
isnt that just ramp showing up 4 times
no
he's literally double casting rampage sometimes i'm looking at it
brittle crow
o im blind
ruby tundra
i can take a better look when i get home
ok tysm
ruby tundra
and doing suboptimal OF avatar windows
is that when I dont wait for avatar from OF to end and I cast avatar?
covert blaze
is that when I dont wait for avatar from OF to end and I cast avatar?
i mean naked OF windows
when you cast OF outside of cds
ruby tundra
when you cast OF outside of cds
am I not supposed to do that?
cuz bloodbath reduces the CD of OF
covert blaze
am I not supposed to do that?
i'm not sure what you mean
i'm not talking about your opener
spacing OF and avatar is correct, yes
ruby tundra
i'm not talking about your opener
yea in the middle of fighting mobs, I use OF
covert blaze
yea in the middle of fighting mobs, I use OF
try to have a bb ready when you OF, and ww stacks ready too in doing aoe
slim coral
Wait Baze weren’t you yellow
No
covert blaze
Wait Baze weren’t you yellow
ruby tundra
try to have a bb ready when you OF, and ww stacks ready too in doing aoe
ah ok ok ty, but I for the other part I dont rly like OF not enraging me and giving me ww stacks
I lose damage when I use the other talent
covert blaze
vil was being silly
covert blaze
ah ok ok ty, but I for the other part I dont rly like OF not enraging me and giv...
dancing blades is better yes
remember it also gives you more rage from meleeing faster
ruby tundra
remember it also gives you more rage from meleeing faster
I dont know why but I do less damage
covert blaze
just need to practice more and fix mistakes
everytime you OF you get 4 seconds of avatar
ruby tundra
ye
covert blaze
making good use of those 4 seconds is important
barren dagger
You guys actually wait to set up a BB first global after OF? I usually send, especially if rage starved
covert blaze
@ruby tundra also try to get recent raid logs, judging gameplay from m+ logs is not ideal
ruby tundra
<@849688625709056060> also try to get recent raid logs, judging gameplay from m+...
I dont rly do raiding I mostly do m+
but I think i'll raid tmr
oblique trail
I dont know why but I do less damage
Your opener is wrong. You want to follow it like this #fury message , you double rampage casted 8 times like Zhai mentioned, keep this to equal amount as Bloodbaths (sometimes you can't avoid this due to downtime). You WW way too often in ST, and sometimes when you have both BT and/or Slam ready. Keep the rule of thumb in mind of using BT/BB every other global, so BT/BB - X - BT/BB - X - BT/BB etc., as this minimises downtime or need to use fillers. You also forgot to use Roar in the opener and first used it at 1:50. You want to use this together with the rest of your CDs (or every 1 minute if you use Uproar)
If you don't know the priority either that you want to follow, it's
Whirlwind if AoE > Rampage if unenraged > Bloodbath > Execute if you have Ashen Juggernaut talented > Rampage > Bloodthirst > Execute if no Ashen > Slam > Whirlwind
Deios has adds but they're not active as frequent as you'd be casting WW
rustic frigate
I asked this before but i forgot the answer, do you use dancing blades or titanic rage for mythic +?
oblique trail
Ideally DB everywhere
covert blaze
I asked this before but i forgot the answer, do you use dancing blades or titani...
db always
oblique trail
But you can use Titanic if you do low enough keys for it to not matter
ruby tundra
If you don't know the priority either that you want to follow, it's
Whirlwind if...
Is there a way to check what keys I click?
Cuz im gonna try to do it on dummies
rustic frigate
tyty
oblique trail
If you mean like an onscreen visual for it, Details has a timeline feature
But I don't remember if it's an extra addon you have to download or not
oblique trail
I'd also recommend logging your dummy training if you aren't, and then use the casts -> timeline feature on logs to see the order of which you use abilities
See if you make some mistakes in your rotation that way, and in the damage done you can see in the picture shown if you've also accidentally double rampaged
ruby tundra
I'd also recommend logging your dummy training if you aren't, and then use the c...
Ah ok tysm
oblique trail
The casts tab isn't accurate for rampage casts because of a quirk with rampage being a multi hit
covert blaze
@ruby tundra you seem to have 0 enchants and no mainstat gem
oblique trail
He does have enchants
But yeah I'd invest in a mainstat gem, typically just a mainstat + mastery gem
covert blaze
i updated his wcl page and they still weren't showing
oblique trail
I assume it wasn't updated since a while ago?
covert blaze
ruby tundra
But yeah I'd invest in a mainstat gem, typically just a mainstat + mastery gem
Yh I’ll invest in better enchants
oblique trail
I wouldn't worry too much about it now though
Since a new season is in 2 weeks
You already have fine enchants, so if you're not too hot on gold just save it
covert blaze
I assume it wasn't updated since a while ago?
yeah I did request an update tho
idk
weird
oblique trail
yeah I did request an update tho
Ya it says updated 2 minutes ago
So I assume the one you looked at was just outdated
ruby tundra
So I basically do ww on cd and just keep using bloodbath as much as possible?
covert blaze
So I assume the one you looked at was just outdated
yeah I waited until it updated and everything, wcl just being funky ig
oblique trail
Average wow tooltip on a website experience
covert blaze
So I basically do ww on cd and just keep using bloodbath as much as possible?
play around ww stacks, not its cd
flat river
hmmm, what to main as an alt
ruby tundra
play around ww stacks, not its cd
Dont you have to keep it up tho
covert blaze
Dont you have to keep it up tho
yes, you play around the stacks
you refresh it when you use all 4
ideally
oblique trail
You can do a small optimisation by using WW before you use OF so you spend more globals inside of the small Avatar pressing actual buttons
covert blaze
You can do a small optimisation by using WW before you use OF so you spend more ...
oblique trail
dapper goblet
jolly mist
hmmm, what to main as an alt
outlaw biggggg
flat river
outlaw biggggg
you mean better fury?
hardy cargo
its called piss pirate cosplay warrior
bitter palm
piss class vs shit class
hardy cargo
running throne of thunder witha friend the greatsword of frozen hells dropped and he traded to me 
empty mirage
season 4 looks like fury gonna be fun again
eternal sundial
though weak
fervent turtle
yeah i feel numbers gonna suck in S4
meager void
2 of those are over 9000, nice
fervent turtle
dont forgot carpal tunnel syndrome ^^
meager void
meh, not even the most importante tunnel in the human body anyways
rigid marlin
Is fury really looking that weak for s4?
modest condor
st sims are not looking too hot
modest condor
skill issue
ofcourse it does shit dam when you're losing like 20% damage from tierset
modest condor
buff s2 to 50% per stack kty
eternal sundial
thing is if you do idk 200k st you know youll do 230k or so with tier
next season you just do stank st 
oblique trail
buff s2 to 50% per stack kty
Did you check loss/gain from going above 100% crit
For more dam per use
modest condor
not for s4
oblique trail
It sounds stupid but 🐀
modest condor
ill have a look at it i guess
meager void
oh that crit's gonna be awesome for aggro in m+
covert blaze
buff s2 to 50% per stack kty
let him cook
modest condor
not really, if you just stack it to 100% crit your bt barely beats onslaught right now
indigo quarry
BT sux
modest condor
Did you check loss/gain from going above 100% crit
not worth
fervent turtle
Season 1 should've won
this
although it doesnt matter if you press some extra BT or execute every now and then
eternal sundial
You got a LOT of executes
Not just a bt rarely
Plus no need for cringe math weakaura
meager void
Plus no need for cringe math weakaura
disrespectful and true
gilded pawn
Because we like doing damage
meager void
yeah its udder nonsense
fervent turtle
but that wouldbe just a tuning matter
meager void
cringe kching aside, s2 is also tuning then
meager void
can't tune stoopid
gilded pawn
There’s not even many tuning levers for s1
meager void
you know what I worry about?
gilded pawn
You can’t increase execute damage and you can’t increase proc rate
meager void
a dev saying "well, s3 warrior was nice, we should worry about other specs for s4"
don't need to feed those dogs every season
wanton mirage
if S4 fury turns out worse than Arms in M+, I will take this this as a sign to go learn and play outlaw
never played any other specs yet. Started wow in DF s1
fervent turtle
cringe kching aside, s2 is also tuning then
disabling that sound was the first i did ^^
meager void
disabling that sound was the first i did ^^
blasphemy.
fervent turtle
never played any other specs yet. Started wow in DF s1
i never player another spec since WoD
played*
wanton mirage
thats dedication
indigo quarry
lol Arms > Fury
fervent turtle
fury has the most intense combat (visuals, sounds) in the game, thats why everything else feels zzzzz to me
meager void
and monk's too twirly
indigo quarry
fury has the most intense combat (visuals, sounds) in the game, thats why everyt...
all the yelling for small hits got to you
wanton mirage
and monk's too twirly
I just don't like hitting Titans/Dragons/Oldgods with barehand
fervent turtle
i mean RB and Rampage animations are just godlike with 2x 2H ^^
edgy widget
no idea why soemone would pick S2 oder S1
S1 sucking isn’t a tuning problem, the whole effect would need to change
fervent turtle
S1 sucking isn’t a tuning problem, the whole effect would need to change
i am just reading your analysis https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/fury-spec-bonuses/1761068/6
edgy widget
ultimately it comes down to what people like more or what they think will perform better - Blizz always says they’ll tune, but whether they’ll tune in the way that some people want is a big ol question mark
meager void
It might be greedy to expect competitiveness for two straight seasons. We are not warlocks after all...
covert blaze
sudden death 🤢
edgy widget
I do think S1 was a fun playstyle, but it’s hard to ignore that it’d take a lot more work to making it useable
At that point it’s not even tuning, it’s just reworking the whole set into something new
celest hearth
Do i have to get lego before season 4 drops? Or is there still a way to get it
covert coyote
S1 would probably be a lot more fun with the crushing blow being 1 charge
CBing at full rage was wack
oblique trail
Do i have to get lego before season 4 drops? Or is there still a way to get it
It'll still drop in S4
fervent turtle
i still do not have it (queues for LFR..)
dapper goblet
bad weapon anyway
celest hearth
Is it still just gonna be a fyrakk drop
oblique trail
Is it still just gonna be a fyrakk drop
Yes
covert blaze
silver junkrat
dapper goblet
praying on his downfall
manic gulch
is nelf the best race for fury currently ?
meager void
no, best race is gnome. Fits everywhere.
manic gulch
oblique trail
is nelf the best race for fury currently ?
Numerically no it's Human, but Shadowmeld has practical use cases in M+ that outweighs it if you care about M+
fervent turtle
Worgen
oblique trail
At the end of the day though, play whatever race you want to since it doesn't really matter much at the end of the day
With that one exception really on Nelf, and in other cases Dwarf
manic gulch
Numerically no it's Human, but Shadowmeld has practical use cases in M+ that out...
really
oblique trail
Yes
manic gulch
i remember reading nelf was the best because the racial buff gave haste or mastery
based on the time of the day
oblique trail
At least this season it allows you to skip some mechanics and do pack skips
It's crit or haste
oblique trail
But in instanced content it's always crit (iirc)
tardy lark
It’s always dark inside 😦
manic gulch
best race for raid fury
meager void
the racial stats swivel around +- 0.1% dps so its about the utility racial.
fervent turtle
Worgen has sprint... so pratical
meager void
being gnome saved my TSwift kill, so stonks
oblique trail
Dwarf was kinda busted for early Fyrakk prog, but don't recall anything outside of that
meager void
(I had, however, fucked up as flyer by getting rooted in the first place)
tardy lark
Dwarf has been good in keys specifically for the cleanse racial, but in raid, race rarely matters
tardy lark
This season there’s been so much shit you could meld and skip entire mechanics
modest condor
i can think of 4 examples of certain racials being pretty much required in recent raiding
fyrakk, painsmith, jaina and kiljaeden
fading sky
Ps?
oblique trail
Yeah for spikes
modest condor
goblin to skip the spike wall
fading sky
Ah
oblique trail
Just leap over them tho
fading sky
I was there so late it had gaps
oblique trail
Don't recall Jaina tho having a race thing but I was bad at the game back then
(still am)
tardy lark
Trolls could with their racial have the p2/3 debuff drop
modest condor
^
the whole strat relied on people being able to drop the debuff coming out of the intermission between p2 and p3
tardy lark
But most of those things were fixed within top 100
modest condor
which required troll
tardy lark
KJ was an atrocity tho
modest condor
actually on 2nd thought i dont think dwarf was required on fyrakk, just useful
empty mirage
our season 4 set is the same as season 2 right, build up bt and dump it at max stacks?
oblique trail
Yes
modest condor
yes but 100% crit, not max stacks
manic gulch
not 95% ?
modest condor
same thing
violet trail
We're gonna hit 100% really fast with how much gear we'll have
manic gulch
empty mirage
thank god its changing to that this seasons tier is wild
modest condor
it was actually "as close to 100% as possible" which, with 10% per stack, was 95-105%
gilded pawn
There’s gonna be some more optimizations tbd
manic gulch
looks like with the s2 tier fury plays very similar to outlaw
you don't save cds
you spam them
modest condor
yeah
gilded pawn
Idk if you want a class with no cds
And most classes don’t save cds
It’s almost always cds on cd
covert blaze
I love AM (no)
modest condor
(yes)
unreal onyx
(no)
south kayak
(yesn't)
unreal onyx
remove AM
south kayak
remove Lolxd
unreal onyx
ok
eternal sundial
now fight irl
flat river
real?
slim coral
yep
flat river
:o
covert blaze
Should be this week or next week
slim coral
blizzard
summer quail
says before s4 on the roadmap
wanton mirage
isn't season 4 supposed to be 10.3? or it just drops wihtout a patch?
oblique trail
There is no 10.3
covert blaze
says before s4 on the roadmap
wanton mirage
i see
slim coral
no
wanton mirage
that must be why my dugeon journel is broken right now
young swan
because it has darkspear troll heritage armor
slim coral
Best patch ever made will be TWW
oblique trail
darkspear never die
slim coral
eternal sundial
troll beard when
wanton mirage
I cant find current season dungeons in my journel
young swan
I wonder what prepatch is gonna be like this time around
past 2 xpacs have been pretty silly
young swan
but theres nothing to be silly with this time
slim coral
I wonder what prepatch is gonna be like this time around
we're prob gonna have our hero talents
young swan
i guess we technically have a keystone
slim coral
just wont be able to use em
covert blaze
Best patch ever made will be TWW
Warrior and dk rework
Can't wait
slim coral
true
fickle bluff
but theres nothing to be silly with this time
same invasion stuff but in silithus cmon xan use your noggin
young swan
but i wonder if hero talents are gonna be something we unlock during the wawi opener or if they're just gonna be there
fickle bluff
oh like systems i getcha
young swan
yeye
fickle bluff
hero talents dont unlock till 71 yeah
oblique trail
Maybe you just get the first node at 70
young swan
yeah im wondering if they just give us a keystone or not
covert blaze
but i wonder if hero talents are gonna be something we unlock during the wawi op...
In the roadmap hero talents are under 11.0 (or whatever the actual expansion number is)
fickle bluff
70 is the last talent point and 71 is the first hero talent point
south kayak
Xan is the most active moderator
fickle bluff
ten hero points from 71-80
south kayak
flat river
young swan
In the roadmap hero talents are under 11.0 (or whatever the actual expansion num...
11.0 would be prepatch
fickle bluff
pre patch we get to play the warrior rework with arms rage management and fury pressing both bt and rb
covert blaze
11.0 would be prepatch
That's why I edited the post
young swan
i never make mistakes
oblique trail
It's ok Greg I'm sure one of the suggestions in your talent tree (reviewed by warrior yapper Xan) will be in twawi
young swan
fickle bluff
It's ok Greg I'm sure one of the suggestions in your talent tree (reviewed by wa...
they already turned mayhem into demolish, my job here is done
oblique trail
🫡
eternal sundial
It's ok Greg I'm sure one of the suggestions in your talent tree (reviewed by wa...
they have to be
young swan
they already turned mayhem into demolish, my job here is done
not even kidding first thing I thought of when i saw it (demolish)
eternal sundial
greg tree good
fickle bluff
with the BT cd reduction stuff i can see something like a longer CD but guaranteed enrage or something
wanton mirage
in prepatch, Vyrantoth, aspect of the ice frozen the sword in slithus and shatter it, the same way she did in hall of valor. then we enter through the wound(tunnel) with our dragonriding to undrground
oblique trail
omg hello lord banezi the yellow name
hello nina shadowpriest player
fickle bluff
or else 10% cd reduction on a 4.5s cd
young swan
cant believe someone at blizzard is a hollow earth believer
covert blaze
with the BT cd reduction stuff i can see something like a longer CD but guarante...
Prayge
fickle bluff
It's ok Greg I'm sure one of the suggestions in your talent tree (reviewed by wa...
still in shambles that my smooth brain wrote execute instead of recklessness in the fury update
slim coral
I like the early access
fickle bluff
it confused xan aswell 
oblique trail
still in shambles that my smooth brain wrote execute instead of recklessness in ...
I'm still letting a mistake on my Fyrakk kill live rent free
slim coral
whats the mistake
oblique trail
I died
young swan
classic mistake
slim coral
lol it happens
oblique trail
But could've prevented it if I actually used my 2 remaining neurons
slim coral
what really matters is what killed you
young swan
did u have stuff avail
young swan
unlucky
oblique trail
ER and pot xd
oblique trail
It's why it's rent free
eternal sundial
trollzi
oblique trail
I'd blame healers if I literally had no other tool to live with
But I just played bad gg go next
eternal sundial
it is what it is
summer quail
they already turned mayhem into demolish, my job here is done
what's mayhem?
fickle bluff
hidden knowledge known to those who seek it
summer quail
warlock talent
summer quail
hidden knowledge known to those who seek it
oh the talent from your talent tree
demolish might not be hasted tho
left perch
damn the edit got me
young swan
cold jolt
Xan hasn’t achieved bankai yet
dull sierra
@oblique trail yellow 👀
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> yellow 👀
dull sierra
👋
brittle crow
https://i.imgur.com/Huquxjp.png ive had this for 4 days now
am i just a permanent member
flat river
https://i.imgur.com/Huquxjp.png ive had this for 4 days now
How did u get this
brittle crow
How did u get this
iykyk 💅
dapper goblet
fervent turtle
ze drake is finally done ❤️
hasty path
ze drake is finally done ❤️
fervent turtle
😄
flat river
ze drake is finally done ❤️
clever belfry
sullen dove
pastel agate
u probably looking for Nameplate scrolling text
Ty
empty mirage
does the set bonus not matter in pvp? i dont see many people using tier set in bgs n stuff
fair cave
does the set bonus not matter in pvp? i dont see many people using tier set in b...
If your talking about Fury, only 2 set matters realy in pvp
gilded pawn
does the set bonus not matter in pvp? i dont see many people using tier set in b...
if its unrated BGs then its just people who are doing it for fun
theres objectively no reason to not run the set
coarse nest
charred panther
ejt322811
young swan
so true
sullen dove
🔥
half cargo
young swan
sudden tusk
hallow sphinx
typical xan behavior, stolen valor enjoyer
young swan
bro
hallow sphinx
:3
warm crag
sick viper
ayo its heracross
slim coral
young swan
wtf
young swan
are u ok
misty edge
left perch
are u ok
no + #fury message
young swan
no + https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148898695696482305/12223810...
it was funny
left perch
:keking:
left perch
man we do no have the good cat emoji
left perch
https://tenor.com/view/spicy-cat-kitten-kitty-cute-gif-11787104311869609440
so good
empty mirage
is our stat prio still haste and mastery
young swan
its a little bit more complicated than that but atm no
we like a lot of vers and mastery with a spattering of haste and crit
that will be changing back to the haste/mastery you're likely familiar with whenever you get the s4 tier
empty mirage
for sure, aint played in a good bit lmao
oblique raft
left perch
ok well it’s time to decide
dapper goblet
left perch
Get out rogue man
covert blaze
dapper goblet
I've not played rogue since we killed mythic nelth for hte first time bud
k not 100% but
yeah
point still stands
left perch
covert blaze
slim coral
covert blaze
bitter palm
that will be changing back to the haste/mastery you're likely familiar with when...
vers on the horizon
more vers than atm
something malicious is cooking
on a side note
i lost a lot of vers
compared to early this patch
when iwas like 486 i had 6k+ vers and 6k+ mastery
now they are all at 4.5k
idk
tbf crit is with augury + crit phial
but still
slim coral
left perch
Guys I had 100% to drink and uh, cannot play the video game my wife expects
Turbo cope please advise
bitter palm
its joever
sick viper
Guys I had 100% to drink and uh, cannot play the video game my wife expects
what game
eternal sundial
covert blaze
covert blaze
blazing bay
If I plan to play fury next season , will it be a mistake? What is the likelihood that circumstances will force me to switch to arms? I haven't played as a warrior before. So I decided to try it.
fervent turtle
the likelyhood ist approximately 1.23%
covert blaze
If I plan to play fury next season , will it be a mistake? What is the likeliho...
need more context
what circumstances?
are you raiding CE?
rich ember
If I plan to play fury next season , will it be a mistake? What is the likeliho...
Play what you want
next tiers just a bit more of a meme tier
fervent turtle
When you wanna work big for small results play Fury next tier
young swan
mickey mouse tier play whatever u want
arms will perform better on ST
aoe is closer but arms is probably still ahead
tardy lark
blazing bay
are you raiding CE?
raids and m+
young swan
<:Armsowns:857748787710787605>
blazing bay
When you wanna work big for small results play Fury next tier
Why? is everything that bad?
young swan
arms is just insanely far ahead of the pack
afaik the only thing that comes close is devoker
so fury comparatively is quite bad
but it still doesnt matter cause s4 is just the life support season
blazing bay
thanks everyone for the answers
cold jolt
DEV OP??
cold jolt
word got around..
barren dagger
Are you saying arms might be meta s4?
M+ still a regular season innit
Nothing mickey mouse about it
slender perch
Anyone aware of how we are simming for S4?
are we gonna be garbage and need to go arms?
clever belfry
Are you saying arms might be meta s4?
with current tuning it could be rather good
slender perch
for raid and M+
sick viper
S4
clever belfry
better dungeon pool than current ssn
- deterministic loot
so its actually just a better key ssn
cold jolt
RAIDS YIPEE
oblique trail
are we gonna be garbage and need to go arms?
"Need" is a strong word, you can do both M+ and Raid as either one, but if preliminary sims are to be believed and stay without further tuning, Arms is looking to be one of the strongest raid and M+ specs
snow edge
It would be odd if there was no actual class tuning, but stranger things have happened I guess
sick viper
eternal sundial
It would be odd if there was no actual class tuning, but stranger things have ha...
There has been destro buffs in s3
So yea
SL s3 ofc
snow edge
I meant if they just rolled it out on the 23rd as it is now, you'd think (?) maybe there'd be some tweaking to class stuff before then
eternal sundial
Ofc not xdd
errant steppe
"Need" is a strong word, you can do both M+ and Raid as either one, but if preli...
Where can I see the Sims?
oblique trail
Where can I see the Sims?
oblique trail
They're still being worked on
But they should be accurate
As for other classes, don't know
sick viper
maydge
errant steppe
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vThuWdF77rcZ3OF1a2xMgnMM5Udo8mpn...
Thanks
barren dagger
Any season since legion where mage and lock haven’t been meta?
fleet cargo
Any season since legion where mage and lock haven’t been meta?
Are you aware of that they have 3 dps spec ?
Ofc at least one spec will be meta
slender perch
"Need" is a strong word, you can do both M+ and Raid as either one, but if preli...
Thank you! ❤️
barren dagger
Are you aware of that they have 3 dps spec ?
Are rogues and hunters always meta?
Genuine question
young swan
rogues are meta more often than not
and if they arent hard meta u can bet ur ass they're still really fucking good
fiery trail
Lock is not often meta in high keys, unless you count destro mdi shenanigans, mage on the other hand, almost every season
desert cloud
Are they gonna fix outlaw macros ?
Cuz that shit is broken
It’s softcore cheating
desert cloud
did u actually read what i said
No
fiery trail
What macros? I did a key with an outlaw on ptr and he was blasting but unaware of macros/cheating
young swan
u should do that
desert cloud
I just typed sub
desert cloud
What macros? I did a key with an outlaw on ptr and he was blasting but unaware o...
They have macros that allow them to never missclick between the eyes
Unless they have subtrefuge or invis
and some other broken ones
Like insta focus interrupt step + the chain thingey to come back to their last spot
On 1 global
fiery trail
Kek
desert cloud
It’s actually cheating
barren dagger
Sounding like some ninja hacker shit
How do you grapple back to your previous location with a macro?
desert cloud
How do you grapple back to your previous location with a macro?
They put cursor on the place where they wanna land
Press the macro
And it does all that by itself
fleet sorrel
flat river
silent burrow
lol
fast mural
#remove macros
eternal sundial
L
modest condor
#removewow
flat river
#remove rogue
Remove rouge except outlaw
Actually
Remove rouge
Add outlaw spec to warrior
Real
covert blaze
clever path
Why is it everyone likes the clown discord thing I don't get it. Could be me I don't like clowns tbh
modest condor
that's unfortunate
silent burrow
mossy fox
we're all clowns here
i'm clowning so hard i couldnt figure out how to get the lootboxes in order to unlock clowning
prolly too late now idk
silent burrow
silent burrow
If you click on my name?
mossy fox
nvm i got it ye
steel shard
We live in a society
mossy fox
nice
summer quail
lessgo
modest condor
silent burrow
golden hare
i went to clown town an no one knew you, fraud
eternal sundial
left perch
hi ergar
eternal sundial
covert blaze
i went to clown town an no one knew you, fraud
erga
flat river
i went to clown town an no one knew you, fraud
then you didn't go to clown town
where is your clown hat
to enter you need clown hat
golden hare
oblique trail
golden hare
to enter you need clown hat
my brother is the mayor of clown town so i don't need it (he said it's fine)
left perch
No he’s not lying
static minnow
Just started getting back into fury, is 90% enrage uptime for a dungeon good? We did wipe once or twice
left perch
we don’t really track enrage uptime like that, you should be almost always enraged tho during any combat
so during the dungeon it can drop or reset between packs/wipes making “90%” kinda meaningless
covert blaze
you should have 100% in combat
this
wicked turret
Will the Ouroboreal neck from amirdrasil be worth investing in for season 4 bullion stuff?
I feel like its a no compared to the other cantrip items.
gilded pawn
what does it do again
left perch
why do we say cantrip a lot lately