fury

[dense elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1133478595537412118.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[alpine haven]

Step down from yellow and become a PvP main

you wont

[tidal kindle]

I hate pvp

[alpine haven]

I know

[tidal kindle]

[deep hare]

every time you open fury channel in skyhold its pvp

[alpine haven]

I stick with the cool people in #pvp

All degens

all complaining

[golden hare]

all on watchlists btw

[deep hare]

#pvp chatters lucky none of the blue names have that channel on their list

rancid content in there

or there used to be

[alpine haven]

Mwahi keeps watch

[golden hare]

what if we made xan full time pvp mod

that would be funny i think

[alpine haven]

But he keeps trying to ask if he can play Prot in pvp

and we keep shutting him down

[deep hare]

mwahi based

[dense elbow]

Latenight PvP gets reigned in quite fast

[golden hare]

mwahi owms

[dense elbow]

[alpine haven]

EU #pvp time > NA #pvp time

[deep hare]

you can simplify that to EU > NA

still applies

[tidal kindle]

His first task is to find a PVP sf

[alpine haven]

Tbf late night in #pvp is 24/7 because they dont sleep

[tidal kindle]

If he can't find a suitable one, he becomes in charge of PVP

[golden hare]

GOOD LUCK XAN

[alpine haven]

I asked Karg at like midnight if he wanted to run games and we stopped at 5am

LMAO

[deep hare]

benzai pvp sf

goes hard i fear

[clever path]

Eyir rocks

[lean geyser]

thank u @clever path

[oblique trail]

yeah I already have mental defficiency I'll fit in fine I think

[alpine haven]

Dont you wanna sit 40 minute queues for Solo shuffle

[deep hare]

eyir socks

[lean geyser]

🧦

[oblique trail]

eyir cocks

[lean geyser]

[clever path]

Eyir cocks

[lean geyser]

[young swan]

[golden hare]

[dense elbow]

[oblique trail]

xan already a good blue

sorry for what I said

[dense elbow]

Best blue, confirmed

[golden hare]

thanks xan love you this will really help my bi-monthly skyhold chatting

[oblique trail]

is bi-monthly twice a month or every 2nd month

[golden hare]

every 2nd month i think

[alpine haven]

wdym twice a month

thats bi-weekly SMH

I thought these special color names would be knowledgeable

[golden hare]

he fell for it lol

[clever path]

Haha gotcha bitch

[oblique trail]

average pvper

[alpine haven]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

Im new here you cant bully me

[tidal kindle]

No way you didn't give me homage in the emote name after everything I did for you....

[deep hare]

I'm new here, say hi!

[tidal kindle]

Banezi for blue

[golden hare]

yea name it erga instead

[tidal kindle]

Down with xan

[deep hare]

yeah name it erga instead

[oblique trail]

erga for blue down with xan banezi

[alpine haven]

can we name it @golden hare

[deep hare]

ill think about it and get back to you

[young swan]

[golden hare]

[deep hare]

[eternal sundial]

:yay:

[oblique trail]

Love

[deep hare]

ok now draw it giving birth

[eternal sundial]

[golden hare]

uhm

[oblique trail]

Good time to test time out feature

[eternal sundial]

now draw her receiving an education

[tidal kindle]

Couldve at least called it ergarms.....

[eternal sundial]

Ergarmsm 🤤

[tidal kindle]

[golden hare]

i ship ergarms

[thorny peak]

brothers a leggo question i hear that the quest item is buggy in lfr is that true?

[eternal sundial]

It is somewhat buggy

[thorny peak]

like how?

[eternal sundial]

It just drops the tether

Sometimes

@deep hare ptr keystone attack in like 40?

[thorny peak]

i hear that u have to keep the boss targetted that prolly a problem on the first boss alone though

[eternal sundial]

No idea i did it in normal raid no issues

[oblique trail]

I did all 3 bosses in lfr no issue

Tether before fight starts, don't press escape, and you should be fine

[dense elbow]

:yay: is gone?

[oblique trail]

Don't think there are any other cancels you can do

[dense elbow]

[thorny peak]

banezi tell me u have a qay to cheese the vellum quest

[golden hare]

[thorny peak]

way*

[oblique trail]

[golden hare]

goodness gracious

[eternal sundial]

[deep hare]

na ptr keys boringe

[oblique trail]

Yes by going to the proving grounds. Talk to the panda, initiate the trial, use the vellum, cancel the trial and repeat

It'll reset the CD of the vellum

[thorny peak]

did u get 100 of the awakeneds first?

[oblique trail]

I got a mix

[dense elbow]

[oblique trail]

Of like 50 each of frost, fire, earth and cold

I mean

W/e the 4th instead of cold is

Forgor

[thorny peak]

is there still transmutations in the game cuz i got WAY too much earth

[oblique trail]

There are

But iirc they still have cds

[oblique trail]

Real ergaw

[thorny peak]

is it in enchanting?

[oblique trail]

Alch

[thorny peak]

aahhh

[hardy cargo]

I think its 1 charge every 16h or so with being able to hold 10 total

[eternal sundial]

Surely retail rat keys then (ill not log on and sleep instead i think?)

[deep hare]

i eat soonge

[flat river]

@oblique trail bestow upon me your wisdom

[lavish beacon]

[sullen dove]

bonzai yellow

[brittle crow]

we got new yellows and new blues and im not neither

this is fucked up

[sullen dove]

fruit_jam for orange

[golden hare]

if you log off fortnite and log on wow i think you have a higher chance

[brittle crow]

i agree

ping archi abt it

make it happen

[sullen dove]

yea ill go ahead and do that

[brittle crow]

do it!

[grizzled saffron]

how does embers come into play.

[brittle crow]

wait wtf

they're a valkyr role but it's not mod ?

can i have that one xd

[sullen dove]

ones the cosmetic role

ones the actual role

[flat river]

Yeah

[sullen dove]

maybe both are the actual role tbh

but ones less cosmetic so archi can stay orange

[flat river]

Real

[brittle crow]

i want the cosmetic role to match my pfp..

[sullen dove]

[brittle crow]

@ vel please

[sullen dove]

[edgy widget]

sec, there's a WH artcile that has a spreadsheet

[slim coral]

@flat cargo

[sullen dove]

gfury

w emote name

[slim coral]

Were is baseg

[flat cargo]

donate to my paypal for custom roles

[edgy widget]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/datamining-fyralath-legendary-drop-rates-bad-luck-protection-values-revealed-337807#fyrakk-kills-greater-embers-of-fyralath

[brittle crow]

yoooo

[edgy widget]

check that table

[brittle crow]

link

[edgy widget]

screenshot, reported

[slim coral]

I got $50

[brittle crow]

u could give me the cosmetic valkyr role too

[flat cargo]

$50 going once

[sullen dove]

50 dollars to make bazeface king of skyhold

above every other peasant in the server

odyn himself

[young swan]

I remember skyhold patreon legend rank

[flat cargo]

what a throwback

skyhold.gg

[young swan]

[edgy widget]

there still is a nitro booster rank too

[flat cargo]

We actually have 41 nitro boosters

[edgy widget]

simps

[flat cargo]

If I was american Id be rich

[hasty path]

Never forget yellow nish (I can’t remember if it was even real or photoshopped at this point

[sullen dove]

mfs will do anything to have a different name than brown

i mean shit bomani was white name for like 2 weeks

b4 turning brown

[young swan]

LOL

[sullen dove]

that was the most unique in the server methinks

[slim coral]

I got $59 for a Bazeg emote

[sullen dove]

Bazeg

[hasty path]

Late is going to get harassed now and you’re all to blame

[brittle crow]

but it doesn't match my pfp like valkyr does

wink nudge

[sullen dove]

"he spittin!"

[brittle crow]

fruit jam for blue name

2024

[sullen dove]

fuit gumy

[slim coral]

[young swan]

[brittle crow]

u could give it to me too

c'mon

it's cosmetic

xd

[slim coral]

A purple name would be sick

[sullen dove]

goofy ahh color

[slim coral]

Shut up hoe

[golden hare]

vel used to be purple :/

[sullen dove]

D:

[brittle crow]

i am campaigning now

[grizzled saffron]

if lesser embers give you 20% chance and I did heroic for the week, do I still get the 20% chance in normal or LFR? or Lesser Embers % only applicable to Heroic

[sullen dove]

if u did heroic u get no chance in lower difficulties

doin the heroic ate all of the lower difficulties chances for the week

rolled them all at the same time

[grizzled saffron]

okay... then how about going form lower difficulty to higher.

[sullen dove]

that does work but i dont think its any better than just doing heroic first on its own, just the same thing with more steps

say lfr is worth 5%, normal is 10%, and heroic 15%

you can do them in that order in those steps

or you just do heroic first and its 30%

basically

the chances might not even add it might just roll each difficulty seperately

so it could roll the 5%, 10% and 15% at the same time, which would maybe explain why ppl sometimes get a greater ember and legendary at the same time

but either way game gives u almost no reason to run up thru the difficulties every week

[brittle crow]

ppl rly do be trying to edge out an extra
.02% chance on the lego

[sullen dove]

real

[bitter palm]

happened to me

[brittle crow]

spend that time farming for the tusks of manneroth instead

[sullen dove]

first like 8 weeks i used to full clear b4 doing fyrakk every time

[brittle crow]

lego is temporary tusks is forever

[bitter palm]

and i got leggo on heroic as well

[sullen dove]

then after a point it was just "fuck it, zone in kill fyrakk"

[glad coyote]

who doesnt have lego at this point?

[brittle crow]

slackers

[sullen dove]

real

[bitter palm]

people who are on alts

u need like waht

14 kills?

for it to be guaranteed

[sullen dove]

inc the carlo "fullcleared every boss every difficulty 120 times got leggo week 4 my strat was the best one"

[glad coyote]

i mena you really only need 1

[sullen dove]

15 heroic kills

[bitter palm]

[grizzled saffron]

sorry... I was asking more about lessers. If you have 20% from lessers and you do normal.. so 20% + normal%, will you still have the 20% applied to heroic.

[sullen dove]

from 14 greater embers

[bitter palm]

y on first hc kill

u will get leggo

[sullen dove]

tru

[brittle crow]

ur overthinking things

[sullen dove]

uhh not sure specifically about that but i would doubt if its like... anything wildly abusable there

[brittle crow]

just go kill red man

[bitter palm]

yes

most likely

[sullen dove]

if anything my guess is its just a 20% increase to the normal chance maybe? and then a 20% increase to heroic, so if u did heroic first just 20% buff on both

but that'd be weird

like if u have 50% of blp worth of lessers

[bitter palm]

my guess is that it's a multiplier X base chance

[sullen dove]

you do normal for a 50% chance then heroic for another 50% chance is what he's asking

[bitter palm]

embers count towards a multiplier

[sullen dove]

instead of... just doing heroic first is it still 50% or 100%, but obv probably not 100

[bitter palm]

although i think embers are just participation trophies

it automatically increases ur chances

so it's BLP x base chance

is my guess

obviously we cant know since we dont have access to any of this info

[flat river]

It's all fake, ember just there to make you feel good

[sullen dove]

kkona

[edgy widget]

It's not entirely certain how or when lesser embers add their drop chance - blizz hasn't confirmed and there's not really reliable enough data to be able to tell

I would, personally, not worry too much about min/maxing lessers though - just prio killing the boss on the highest difficulty you can each week

[cold jolt]

guys i have a question

now that im at pvc

pc

i need help with movement

i legit dont know what to do

i think i know where im losing a lot of my dmg

bc my interm dmg is "good" and my p2 dmg is "okay":?

[olive wraith]

Context?

[eternal sundial]

fyrakk p1

[cold jolt]

yeah

let me show u what i mean 1 moment

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2111033368?t=0h17m26s

like

that specific movement can be so cringe

the boss just

i know itsw a me problme to clarify

[eternal sundial]

delete that frontal wa jfc

you cannot see shit half the p1

[cold jolt]

ok i will

any suggestions will be greatly appreciated

[eternal sundial]

you full eating dreamrend 1 is so grief

and ur waddling behind boss a lot not really using leap

or wasting it if you get the drop and are close

like this is so dogshit

[cold jolt]

yeah i felt like it was dog

[flat river]

And he waddled away waddle waddle

Can't wait for season 4 so i can start cooking again

[cold jolt]

wait what did i do there

is that really reamrend 1

that mkustve bee na pull i really trolled and was tilted

wait no

thats dream rend 2 no?

[eternal sundial]

no ur just deep into the first

and gate turbo late

thats grief

[cold jolt]

like

[sullen dove]

tank prolly doesnt need to drag boss taht deep into fire anyway

like you can have fyr on the edge of the fire

[cold jolt]

my avartar and reckj

[sullen dove]

but yea ust dont follow it

[eternal sundial]

they dont but u just take the L

[cold jolt]

shouldnt be up at first dream, remd?

[eternal sundial]

and play like a real human

[sullen dove]

no?

first dreamrend is liek 50 seconds

how could it possibly be up

[cold jolt]

hes saying thats first dreamrend

OH

HESD

[eternal sundial]

READ

[cold jolt]

screenshot unrewlated ghot it

[sullen dove]

lul

[eternal sundial]

screenshot is neither dreamrend

[sullen dove]

do you guys struggle with getting thru shield or not

like damaging it

depends if its worth for u to cd shield or just p2 boss for boss dmg

[cold jolt]

yeah

[sullen dove]

ive been doing the latter

[cold jolt]

wee do

[sullen dove]

if its a struggle its prolly fine to hold cds for shield

[tidal kindle]

Naaahh

[cold jolt]

one moiment need to hlep sister move dresser

[sullen dove]

but once more comfy ive just sent second cds on cd, sorta right b4 second dream rend

[eternal sundial]

actively makes it harder

he also gets hit by a frontal

cuz of it

[sullen dove]

i mean idk itd be fine somewhere else maybe, but RIGHT on top of your character is crazy

[tidal kindle]

@cold jolt you move

Reactively

You've pulled the boss how many times?

Should have a general idea of where the boss is going and what it's gonna do just from reps

[eternal sundial]

he also presses rampage reactively

[tidal kindle]

So move pro-actively

I've gotten so used ot the timing for dreamrend > leap sequence

I leap same time as the boss

[cold jolt]

im back

like 150 times or so

i mean i try to for the first move at least

[edgy widget]

Yeah, Fyrakk (and really raiding in general) is all about learning patterns and knowing what's going to happen before it happens, though you do get the occasional curveball

[cold jolt]

like i charge to the boss and its still out of range

[eternal sundial]

thats how charge works yep

[edgy widget]

that's what happens when you charge a moving target - it takes you to where the target was, not where it's going

🙏 can't wait for slayer talents

[cold jolt]

ah ok that makes sense

[eternal sundial]

you also start the far side of boss

which is wild to me

[edgy widget]

so the trick there is to either delay your charge until the boss stops moving

run ahead of the boss so that it takes longer to get out of melee range

or leap instead

I usually try for #2

[tidal kindle]

If I know I can get away with it

I'll hop away from the boss and charge, hop away and charge again

In some of Fyrakk's sequences

[cold jolt]

ive done that ocassionally

mostly in p2 tho

[edgy widget]

So a good example of preemptive movement is right here
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2111033368?t=0h17m27s

• as soon as the frontal ends, you should be moving in front of the boss, ready for circle drops - you don't need to leap 5 feet

[cold jolt]

if i mess up its easier than walking

[tidal kindle]

But careful since more often than not that'll just cause unecessary downtime

[cold jolt]

yeah for sure, its only used for me if i mess up so it shouldnt happen

[tidal kindle]

And you're better off just leaping or doing what archi said

[edgy widget]

• if you save leap, you can instead use it here to leap ahead to where the boss is going, instead of trying to play catch up with charge
  https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2111033368?t=0h17m36s

[tidal kindle]

To be fair I think learning good movement/positioning habits is

One of if not the hardest part of playing melee

On prog

Cuz all melee mechs are just "Get off boss" "Get on boss" "Run around boss"

[edgy widget]

yeah, learning to play proactively vs reactively is a major skill in WoW

[cold jolt]

hmm ok that makes sense

and ill have leap u pfor dreamrend

[edgy widget]

and if you didn't have the circle in that situation, you can just run ahead of the boss while he's moving - you'll be meleeing from the front instead of the back, but parries are more annoying than debilitating

[cold jolt]

ty both of u

ill have to pay giga attention to thje boss movements

[eternal sundial]

you also dont spam a/d entire time while dpsing

not optimal

[tidal kindle]

Okay I was gonna say his movement is already too sporadic lmaooo

[edgy widget]

spam spacebar is so 2012

[tidal kindle]

But everyone has their thing

Mine is moving camera angle 24/7

[eternal sundial]

spam jump is very bad for movement imo

firemage ass habit

[cold jolt]

do i spam jump

i guess so

maybe not in combat

[flat river]

Bro

Imagine if fury had gun abilities like outlaw

[edgy widget]

Gunzerker

[slim coral]

Same!

[flat river]

New ability and they call it Double Double-Barrel Shotgun

[slim coral]

That and moving side ways

[flat river]

You just hold 2 double barrel shotguns and blast

[flat river]

Real

[slim coral]

So Doom?

[flat river]

Basically

[edgy widget]

get off my lawn

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-gif-26381638

Slayer pov

[flat river]

[tidal kindle]

Timestamp me

The pull you think you played best on

[cold jolt]

that night let me look

[open sage]

What trinkets u guys gonna be playing in season 4

[flat river]

No but like it would be so cool pirate warrior

You dual-wield a 2-hander and a gun

Would be dope af

[bitter palm]

bro needs

liquid anchors

wa

none of his was are anchored anywhere

they are just sitting in the middle

for no reason

[cold jolt]

I TOLD THEM<

I TPOLD THEM AND THE YSAID IT DOESNT MATTER

probably maybe last pull of jngiht?

[tidal kindle]

Link timestamp

[bitter palm]

are u on p3

yet

[tidal kindle]

👀

[tidal kindle]

You can just manually move them around, in that sense it doesn't matter

But whatever you got goin on rn ain't it

[cold jolt]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2111033368?t=2h37m20s

almsot ish

kind of

[cold jolt]

need to fix some things

[bitter palm]

why did u reck 2 seconds before the boss pulled

[bitter palm]

u need to clutch it then

otherwise that boss isnt dying in 2 weeks

[flat river]

So he doesn't forget

[eternal sundial]

idk being 150 pulls in

and wa isnt moved

is psyco

[cold jolt]

my weak auras broke the night before

and idk how to fix them

they tikd nme to delete liquid asignment package

[flat river]

Hey Archimtiros i see people saying RA sims better dungeon slice than AM next season, will we be using RA with ravager build or normal AM build?

[indigo quarry]

context matter

[eternal sundial]

no

[indigo quarry]

RA sims somehow better

but AM is the way

[flat river]

Dungeon slice i said

[bitter palm]

am

wow dslice

[flat river]

Wasn't me

I saw people say it

[bitter palm]

cause ra abilities

[sudden tusk]

You need to recklessly abandon fury because its arms time

[bitter palm]

are overtuned

[flat river]

Ok ok good

[eternal sundial]

i said it

cuz its true (and cursed thus funny)

[open sage]

Why would u use RA over AM in season 2 tier set

[flat river]

[bitter palm]

cause crushing blow does too much damage

same for bloodbath

[eternal sundial]

it sims better in the most relevant and accurate sim type of all time

and sims = game

clearly

[flat river]

Wb in raid

[bitter palm]

but its not gonna be relevant

[open sage]

KEK

[bitter palm]

in any real content

[flat river]

Will we be using RA or AM

[bitter palm]

even on st it loses iirc

[flat river]

Ok good

[eternal sundial]

by 6k tho

thats small

[bitter palm]

y

just shows how overtuned those 2 buttons are

go spec ra

attack a dummy with crushing blow

while i was doing some random 24s or something with myrt

i played loboz build

those 2 buttons are nuts

[sick viper]

bro jumping works

[dapper goblet]

[eternal sundial]

if ur midair the second u wanna adjust

ur fucked

[bitter palm]

space bar spam is something u do in classic

[eternal sundial]

or on fire mage

[sick viper]

never had that issue

not spam jumping tho tbh

I usually jump when I can't see my char or for momentum

[dapper goblet]

jumping is only really bad when bosses have knockbacks

like smolderon

[sick viper]

:^)

[tidal kindle]

Broad strokes

Charge from purple, better angle on open
Try to stack with your melee, the firestorms are player targetted so if you all fan out, you end up bozoing off the boss for like 2-3 seconds the way you did, big on opener cds
Second dreamrend you juhst afk off the boss and let frenzy drop > Can SR + rampage + IV then leap out to maintain

You can OF/Rampage as the boss flies away from intermission, extra cast of OF or (jump for rampage) so you maintain frenzy
3:55 you can hit the boss, only scary thing is the tank circles, have SR IV
You also don't move along your line-instead shift it which is kinda terrorist

• Blaze itself doesn't hurt much now, esp to a fury warr

Not sure why pot and stone are on CD here

General:
Movement already spoke about

2:13 into fight you're gonna get hit by something anyway, just step into fire or decide to eat a single line and keep hitting boss
Same firestorm shit here too

Try to use SR more liberally, I aim to rip that shit on CD if it's not being saved for something specific
Tracking ebon might/pre on you kinda useless info

[dapper goblet]

:chatting:

[sick viper]

ya ngl bomani's dodging's hella cringe

[cold jolt]

ty a lot

[sick viper]

@cold jolt do u have anxiety when playing?

[cold jolt]

kind of maybe

im not sure

but having things to actively work on helps a ton

i think some ppls im tilted

pulls*

and its clear to see, i dont think last pull i was

liek more clear

like some pulls ill make sokme cringe error that results in losing 5 seconds of avatr for no rweason

thats what i mean by more tilted

( on pull etc)

[bitter palm]

also if frontals are very cringe u can walk in front of the boss and pop sr

u deflect the boss frontal

not add frontal but boss frontal

[sick viper]

usually mfs have their awareness hindered if theyre anxious

[eternal sundial]

i dont think 5 secs of avatar is something worth tilting over

[bitter palm]

20% of 0 i still 0

as a warrior u arent gonna do a whole lot in p1

[tidal kindle]

I'd honestly say

If your CDs aren't required for the shield

Send them off CD p1

And have full CD value for both colossi

[sick viper]

I send them off CD

[tidal kindle]

Since fury burst ST isn't all that great when compared to colossi damage profile

[cold jolt]

i think they want my cds on sheild but i can ask

[tidal kindle]

Link log

@cold jolt

[flat river]

Thing is

Even if arms is stronger than fury

We all know we are not playing arms

[tidal kindle]

We all

[modest condor]

real

[flat river]

I'd rather be playing fury at its worst than arms at its best

Maybe

[eternal sundial]

cope

[bitter palm]

holy based

arms gang

[eternal sundial]

bro didnt play s2 sl

[bitter palm]

s2 sl arms was

so good

[eternal sundial]

you do wanna play the better spec

[flat river]

I didn't

[bitter palm]

nf arms

[cold jolt]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wHYV6q8fCaKNALkp#fight=30&type=damage-done

sorry im alt tabbed a bit

thats why responses are slow

i do apprecioate ur help

[eternal sundial]

is this across both teams?

[tidal kindle]

2x 486 wep

[bitter palm]

no leggo

[cold jolt]

i was brought in later

[eternal sundial]

no signet brand

no helm/belt/wrist socket

do i not see a mainstat gem

[modest condor]

holy

[flat river]

Do you wanna know the MAIN reason i hate arms

[eternal sundial]

no

[flat river]

Ok

[summer quail]

coz you suck at it

[flat river]

Not that

I suck at everything

[summer quail]

then i don't want to know

[flat river]

Ok

[sick viper]

we're at 53% at 293 pulls

[modest condor]

because it only has 1 weapon ofc

[flat river]

Close

[eternal sundial]

we're at boss dead at below that

[modest condor]

my guild must be doing something right http://puu.sh/K4miE/2639a785a1.png

[bitter palm]

y u can kill it

[eternal sundial]

ye looks good

[bitter palm]

if u arent in p3 this week

prob not killing it

[eternal sundial]

ye

[flat river]

It's because im season 2 i got the weapon from neltharion to drop in vault but i was playing arms at the time and the weapon simmed worse than the one i was using so i didn't take it, then 2 days later i switched back to fury

[eternal sundial]

so cuz ur dumb

[summer quail]

so you hate arms coz you're dumb

[flat river]

Yes

[summer quail]

yes thank you philliam

[bitter palm]

promote philliam to yellow name

!

[tidal kindle]

I guess given your raid intermission damage, yah should send

Though across the fight your'e just missing casts/uptime/autos which is severely tanking your output

[sick viper]

fuck maybe I should drop ship

[bitter palm]

my guild quit

we were like 400 pulls and got very close to p3 twice

which isnt enough time

considering 2/3rd of our wipes are on p1

even after 400 pulls

[dapper goblet]

[slim coral]

[modest condor]

sometimes i wonder how guilds ahead of my guild can take twice as many pulls to kill bosses

[cold jolt]

i appreciate this

[slim coral]

more time

less skill

[modest condor]

like do you guys never spend time between pulls to discuss things?

[cold jolt]

we do

[modest condor]

yeah but your guild isnt ahead of mine

[cold jolt]

also look at fat shark yes, dont they raid SIGNIFICANTLY less hours and still get like world 6?

oh i thought u were talking about me my bad

[modest condor]

fat shark yes doesnt have to come up with strats

[eternal sundial]

look at tophs guild for pullcounts

[cold jolt]

max literally said o nstream if they raided world first at their peak theyd be undisputed #1

[eternal sundial]

max says a lot of things

[eternal sundial]

(w21)

8 seed version

[sick viper]

I mean each day we wipe less and less on p1 and int, last day most of our wipes were on p2

[modest condor]

northern sky was the low pullcount guild before everybody started gushing over project

[eternal sundial]

yep

[bitter palm]

ye but its not fair

northern sky uses game deficit

[eternal sundial]

remains the cooler one as they dont have pizza r'pists (swedes) in there

[modest condor]

they are not normally

[bitter palm]

check him game

[bitter palm]

how many pulls

did ur chinese guild have

on tindral

[eternal sundial]

1k

[bitter palm]

:xdd:

[modest condor]

[eternal sundial]

oh baze guild

nvm idk

i thought u meant skyline

[bitter palm]

baze was in some chinese guild

on tindral

i think it was 700 pulls or something

:xdd:

thats some sanity draining right there

[young swan]

midnights had like 800 or something

[eternal sundial]

someday he'll find an appropriate wr guild

im sure

[bitter palm]

he did no?

[modest condor]

i really like how some people think tindral was fine and any more nerfs would turn it into a heroic boss after the no double soak nerf

[slim coral]

700

[modest condor]

like tell that to the people who spend more time on it than the average endboss

[flat river]

I did mythic gnarlroot first try

[slim coral]

My mental doesnt budge

Change phase me

[sick viper]

those ppl are self hating aotc mfs

[slim coral]

yes

[bitter palm]

my memory is insane

i guess

how was it

[slim coral]

was fine

[bitter palm]

i heard that chinese guilds just keep pulling

they dont discuss anything

they just throw themselves at the boss

[slim coral]

not much to discuss on tindral

just gotta get good

[sick viper]

Cutting Edge Tindral

[slim coral]

saying stop double soaking isn't very productive

[modest condor]

ikr

also love it when you're told to "pump dps now" or "dont die"

like oh sorry i was just about to go afk ill start doing dps now

[eternal sundial]

tbf pump makes sense for dps stop

[slim coral]

yeah much of tindral is just keep pulling at a certain point

[eternal sundial]

so on frank for ex

[slim coral]

can't really stop and discuss every dumbe mistake

[pliant obsidian]

so with videos of the raid out and all the good handmedown weakauras from top 3 guilds these bosses take 700 pulls?lol

[slim coral]

just becomes a waste of time at some point

[eternal sundial]

they are hard with or without weakauras

[modest condor]

for original tindral you could add another 0 at the end

[eternal sundial]

wf tindral would be a 10k pull one for me

[pliant obsidian]

can't be nowhere near as hard as worlds first

[eternal sundial]

and i wouldve bashed by brain in many pulls before that

[sick viper]

world first Tindral is straight up a shit boss

[modest condor]

i bet my guild would be at 1k+ pulls before we even made it past the first set of seeds if we fought the same tindral as rwf

[eternal sundial]

i like how blaze did wf damage 90% of the patch

[slim coral]

we progged pre nerf tindral

[eternal sundial]

[slim coral]

so thats why we had so many pulls

people would not stop double soaking

[modest condor]

pre nerf 3 second seeds or pre nerf 5 second seeds

because im pretty sure that change alone already made the fight 3x easier

[slim coral]

I think we started at 3 seconds

but like the week after it got nerfed

to5

still the soaking time wasn't really the main issue

was just double soaking that really was the cause

[olive wraith]

Tfw cleave is hitting as hard as a stacked bt on ptr

[modest condor]

yeah they need to throw another tuning round onto our tierset

reduce the crit per stack back down to 10% and increase the damage per stack to 50% or something

[pliant obsidian]

that would be a good idea

i want longer weapons so my aoe has a bigger hitbox etc

[frail prism]

I haven't been keeping track. How bad is fury looking on ptr for season 4?

[olive wraith]

Aoe should be fine still

[slim coral]

it's dead

[olive wraith]

St is bottom tier

[eternal sundial]

fury 385 arms 442

[olive wraith]

Arms looks way better

[eternal sundial]

use that info as you wish

[bitter palm]

444 arms

[eternal sundial]

new paw tech smh

[pliant obsidian]

we need a new class designer

[bitter palm]

leggo cast in cs

with some fatality tech

444 is ez

[frail prism]

Ugh I hate arms. Play style is so clunky.

[bitter palm]

reverse sandbagging

[eternal sundial]

in what way

press glowing ms when it glows

bonk bonk

[pliant obsidian]

need affixes we can mitigate last 2 weeks have been rough and only 3 weeks left in season

[cold jolt]

maybe its a ranged angle

[eternal sundial]

its a get better angle

[olive wraith]

It’s a fury doomed angle

[cold jolt]

im a ranged player playing melee

for the first time

i mean yesi agree in eed to get better

but what if i casnt

[olive wraith]

Ranged feels bad to me

[cold jolt]

i always say insane improvbemnt veyr quikcly on ranged

saw*

[eternal sundial]

cuz ranged has a low floor for decent dam

just dont move n cast

[pliant obsidian]

I still can't get my head around 700 pulls on a boss lol that kinda translates into people not knowing how to play WoW in general imo

[young swan]

most of the time its a combination of bad players + tilt + hard boss

[pliant obsidian]

but these supposed bad players made it to the last boss were they being carried the whole time?

[young swan]

yeah

[summer quail]

bad players making a mistake will wipe the raid on the last few bosses

[pliant obsidian]

oof

[summer quail]

and most guilds have a few bad players, just the way it is

[pliant obsidian]

ahh

like the gm is a crappy tank and his wifes a bleh healer those days

[dapper goblet]

i feel like every time a new tier is coming out he says "we've never been better"

[summer quail]

thankfully not experienced that myself but i've heard stories of guilds like that

[pliant obsidian]

this was mostly back in cata

[covert blaze]

kinda have to say that when you're about to compete for something

[pliant obsidian]

can't compete if the class and game designer won't let you because you cannot do more dps than the algorithms allow

[covert blaze]

[hallow sphinx]

[slim coral]

The fact is liquid won't be the best without me

[hallow sphinx]

🪤

[pliant obsidian]

nonwarrior toon i assume you to be slayerowns?

[slim coral]

what is nonwarrior toon?

[pliant obsidian]

a meta lol

[slim coral]

?

[pliant obsidian]

a toon who competes in tournies

not a warrior

[covert blaze]

me when i'm schizo chatting

[slim coral]

I'm so lost

someone from EU come get their boy

[pliant obsidian]

you can't be in a guild like liquid and not compete

[covert blaze]

you're a clicker just like the priest

[slim coral]

I only click 2 things

and thats when I'm not in combat

[covert blaze]

[indigo quarry]

it makes you a clicker then

[slim coral]

nah lol

[indigo quarry]

smh not optimizing keybinds

[slim coral]

just too lazy

[covert blaze]

you were clicking potion and leggo we saw you

[slim coral]

Proof?

[tidal kindle]

I used to click pot during nyalotha

Fingers too busy mashing execute every .75s

[slim coral]

prepotting meta

pog

[slim coral]

Coral!

[hallow sphinx]

stop

[covert blaze]

don't care enough to go clip it but I could

[tidal kindle]

[covert blaze]

wth garms emote

[tidal kindle]

[steel shard]

lucid not in there tho

not perfect

[tidal kindle]

This is

The second set

Lucid is popped on first

To build fat TOM

[steel shard]

i member using lucid in nyalotha

ah ye

yea thats how it worked

[slim coral]

btw

that reminds me

Delete current ToM

[tidal kindle]

Tom into pot + coral for 100crit executes on the tom + CS overlap

[steel shard]

its the same as the bfa one

??

[slim coral]

no

ToM sucks now

no borrowed power to make it feel good

[dapper goblet]

tom always sucked

[young swan]

based

[dapper goblet]

ass backwards design

[young swan]

xeosed if u will

[tidal kindle]

Small diff
BFA gave flat str value vs now is %

[steel shard]

the fuck you mean backwards

[brittle crow]

remove tom, remove my not blue role

[steel shard]

it fits into the arms kit

spend rage= more dam

[tidal kindle]

Flat value was stronger since you could've 2x your mainstat with it I think?

Could be wrong on the 2x

[young swan]

do more damage outside of cd's than inside of cd's

pretty backwards when your cd is an enabler

[steel shard]

i mean

you could argue that ToM is a cd

so i dont get your point

you just mad you cant use ToM and CS at the same time

[young swan]

do i seem mad

[steel shard]

yea

[young swan]

LOL

[hallow sphinx]

someone has 2 grow a pair and admit test of might is overrated hipster garbage

[young swan]

thats a good one

tom just makes arms damage flatline perma

[steel shard]

spikes during execute

which i love

pre execute its cinda lame

but arms for me has alwase been execute focused

[tidal kindle]

Only major thing I hate about current tom vs bfa is

[dapper goblet]

[hallow sphinx]

yo what if tom didnt exist, so execute was just tuned to do dmg w/o it

[tidal kindle]

Bfa tom didn't fizzle out if CS parried

[young swan]

yeah but it doesnt spike because of tom it just spikes because of execute

[tidal kindle]

This one does

[hallow sphinx]

CRAZY

[tidal kindle]

So yknow.....

🪦

[steel shard]

well it spikes because higher rage cost GCDs

and with how OP works

it goes against that

[indigo quarry]

so they somehow lost the original recipe nice one blizzard

[young swan]

it spikes because 5 million diff modifiers for execute

[tidal kindle]

Gimme a playstyle where execute consumes all your rage for big dammy

[steel shard]

so i like the gameplay consiting dumping rage during CS and then using ToM window to spend your OPs and pool rage for the other CS

[dapper goblet]

wod execute

[hallow sphinx]

stop

[dapper goblet]

miss her

[tidal kindle]

🙂

[steel shard]

legion execute

🥵

[young swan]

i mean u can just make tom better at a baseline by making it ramp throughout a cd window rather than after it

then ur also rewarded for pressing high impact gcds for every gcd

the only thing that gets kinda cringe is fatality timing but you already mostly ignore that now

[steel shard]

Yea sure but ToM to me is a CD in itself

included in CS

[hallow sphinx]

no thats also stinky, how current pillar works on frost 🤢

[steel shard]

just how i think about it

just adds an extra CS component basicly

[slim coral]

idk ToM in bfa didn't feel bad

like it does now

[dapper goblet]

[hallow sphinx]

corruption

[young swan]

u didnt play it pre s4

it was bad

[slim coral]

You are correct I did not

[bitter palm]

cant

[hallow sphinx]

corruption

[slim coral]

Yeah Corruption

[steel shard]

you did not play arms lol

[young swan]

i did play arms

[steel shard]

you played fury in BFD and eternal

[slim coral]

I played arms

[steel shard]

idk i just played what the current best spec is

[young swan]

u played arms at the end of EP

[steel shard]

fury did pump the big adds for the last boss

[slim coral]

Arms was bis in nya I think I dont know cuase I was new at the time

and didnt meta game

[steel shard]

with blood of the enemy

the 3 nagas

the phase before the last one

i was top in that phase

[covert blaze]

based

[steel shard]

not at first

well nya at first overall

was a fucking freakshow

with corruption

[dapper goblet]

arms was def bis at the start

of nya

[young swan]

^

[steel shard]

it was

[hardy cargo]

nyalotha was my first mythic tier and tom was fun then so means its good design

[steel shard]

fury with starts meta

no?

[young swan]

no

arms was better as soon as we got th revvez apl from EP

[dapper goblet]

Atrocity played fury on the last boss to live

nzoth

every otther boss was arms

[young swan]

nzoth damage

scary ass boss

[hardy cargo]

u shoulda played in a wr like 2500 guild and not felt the dam bc everyone was max ilvl like me

[steel shard]

i member he did some shit with OP vs MS prio in uldir

the wowhead guide did not mention

[young swan]

revvez always has the most insane cooks

[steel shard]

yea he is the goat

afterall

[indigo quarry]

he didnt wanted to share his S3 APL

and said that the default one was good enough

[steel shard]

lol

[indigo quarry]

he is keeping his secret sauce

[steel shard]

wonder how wallife will stack up vs revvez

from playing with him in vault

he is just revvez v2

says nothing never fails a mechanic and does big dam

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[steel shard]

He got a trial spot in echo

for next xpac

[dapper goblet]

only person who ive seen be similar to revvez on warrior is fragnance

[steel shard]

lol dont think so

[dapper goblet]

🫰

[steel shard]

i member him saying revvez is just better than him in tomb

[sullen dove]

gromnak owns revvez

[young swan]

bazed owns grom

[sullen dove]

ergo

bazed owns revvez

[young swan]

[steel shard]

Gromnak is beyond anyones scope

its not fair comparing him to a mere mortal

He even has an IRL rage meter

[young swan]

real

[tidal kindle]

Just watch vod and copy what he does bro

[young swan]

miss when frag played warrior...

jmy..

[steel shard]

just a fotm reroller

[jolly mist]

crit would gap all of the wf raiders

[young swan]

i think hes mostly dh guy now right

[steel shard]

[jolly mist]

[steel shard]

ok so for WF raiding you need to do good dam

AND have really good mechanics

not just one thing

[indigo quarry]

i legit started an APL opener like he did and called it the Revvez APL

thats when i've seen that Troar was out of CS

[jolly mist]

well max thinks crit would have an instand spot in wf roster if he wanted to

[young swan]

max thinks a lot of things

[dapper goblet]

wacky wavy

split fodder

may he rest in peace

[tidal kindle]

Rip wacky

🪦

[steel shard]

the random harvard guy from max alt guild

[young swan]

wackywavytud is a super underrated and sleeper pick-up

[summer quail]

what happened to him? i saw one of his streams when he joined liquid then never saw him again

[young swan]

split fodder

[summer quail]

unfortunate

[dapper goblet]

clout pickup

[slim coral]

wackywavy 2.0

[tidal kindle]

I played better when revvez streamed farm

Coincidence?

[sullen dove]

where’d mr rafkar go

bro was a huge chatter going from s2 to s3

then just ceased

[young swan]

think hes taking a break atm, not sure what happened with liquid

[slim coral]

he got unlucky rolls for RWF

[steel shard]

they lost thats what happened

EU EU EU EU

[sullen dove]

funny how u pronounce that “ew”

[summer quail]

ye, sucks. i like liquid alot more than echo atmosphere wise, even tho i'm eu. they joke around way more

[young swan]

liquid loses its charm when u find out 90% of that atmosphere is manufactured

[tidal kindle]

They would never....

[cold jolt]

im not manufactured

[young swan]

at this point i just watch dan and revvez and call it a day

[slim coral]

I knew some of their players used Tren

They're too ripped

[young swan]

if riku streams i'll watch riku too

[hallow sphinx]

fake fuck i knew it

[tidal kindle]

[hallow sphinx]

calling em out

has to happen

[tidal kindle]

Xan's french bro

What'd you expect

[summer quail]

ofcourse they do, seen lørgok

[hallow sphinx]

exactly, whats he gonna do ban me?

[summer quail]

tho he's in method now

[tidal kindle]

He'll wave the white flag a couple times

Then surrender

Lore accurate France

[young swan]

ITS FOR RWF MAN

i always have your stream open..

[hallow sphinx]

clearly you dont remember seeing a cursed barney on the RWF list in abberrus

[young swan]

i didnt watch aberrus rwf literally at all

[steel shard]

my sweet summer child

the liquid "atmosphere"

[summer quail]

ehh, if it's fake let it be fake. WWE is fake but still entertaining

[young swan]

honestly thats fair

not my cup of tea personally