fury

[cold jolt]

so u end up using detonmate dead on 6 400% max hp mobs, vs random 100% hp mobs

and detonate dead scaless off of mob (corpse) hp

u are detonating desecre corpse spawned bu that ability

u arent actually really detonating the mobs on the map

[south kayak]

oh I see

[cold jolt]

im doing ruetoos build so its a bit diff than urs

im doing cast on crit

[flat river]

They should add a new raid type

Hardcore

You wipe once gg reset raid

[cold jolt]

but if u complete it u get 5 billion dollars

blizzard currency

[flat river]

Real

[cold jolt]

[flat river]

Nah if you complete it

You get to choose 2 items at max ilvl

[sick viper]

you'll prolly get a t-shirt at best

[flat river]

XD

[sick viper]

actually no even better

a sticker

[flat river]

Dying mid-raid or wiping to trash doesn't count you can cr

But if you wipe you are immediately kicked out of the raid instance and have to reset it

Nah even better

You can no longer play with the noobs you played with

[sick viper]

they should definitely pay devs to make that

[flat river]

Real

[eternal sundial]

Hot take for someone who doesnt even play mythic

[sullen dove]

[flat river]

It's a choice

I've played mythic before

Too much of a bother

Im saying they should make it so we can laugh our asses off

At streamers

[south kayak]

@cold jolt i got obliteration wand

is that good

[sick viper]

this guy gets it

[flat river]

[cold jolt]

So you want two

Do@you have part of building

And are you inquis

[fleet sorrel]

[sullen dove]

[cold jolt]

Ok I gotta sleep sorry box

[south kayak]

np lol

good night

[cold jolt]

But look up rue too

Or alternatively try tft discord or psty@of exile discor

They will always help you

But bsdicslly I was trolling for awhile and they helped me fix my build

Dd can feel awful if done wrong, Gn friends. If I’m up I will respond just ping me. If I don’t respond I’m asleep

I say that bc sometimes I randomly check@my phone and I may respond if you ping me

[restive narwhal]

Do i take 470 Mirror or 454 Weapon from Vault ? I have 424 Ilvl on all Slots.

[eternal sundial]

Weapon i suppose

Neither of those remain on your guy long term

[sour frigate]

ye new season soon

so new gear

[velvet pelican]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZbnjDq2dyhrHAgPC#fight=12&type=damage-done (manpesio-sanguino)

Good morning, could you please help me with the optimization of my warrior? I understand that I don't have the legendary and that will also be noticed in my dps but I don't know if I'm knowing how to optimize the burst windows and dead times well .... any tip would help me a lot 🙂

[sullen dove]

i mean honestly you seem to have done pretty good with 90 parse, 96 or so for ilvl at 485

i guess though on pull it seems you charged and immediately hit odyns

you should rampage first then odyns so its enraged, and after that odyns is usually when you'd spear

so reck > charge in > rampage> odyns > spear, then do like 2 of the (bb > rampage) combo > avatar, and just the rest of your bb charges with ramps

so aside from yea just generally being 4 ilvls higher where most people are at, and fixing that one little misplay in the opener i dont think youre doin that bad at all

it was a heroic volc tho so idk if u thought you were doing bad on other bosses or something

[velvet pelican]

Oh that's perfect, I'll apply it, that priority also applies to the aoe build? I mean rampage - Odyn?

[sullen dove]

yeah almost always you should rampage just before odyns

[velvet pelican]

OK, so I'm going to remove the macro I have with Recle + Odyn.

[sullen dove]

in aoe you might run titanic rage where odyns auto enrages you and does a little more dam and gives you 4 whirlwind stacks.. (most people dont) so if you do dont gotta worry about it as much, but generally you dont and always run DB for all content

yeah reck/odyn macro not ideal

you can like.. reck/might of the ocean if you want

tho could also just as easily put moto on avatar instead

[velvet pelican]

thank you very much 🙂 for the advice I will apply it.

[sullen dove]

🫡

[strong prawn]

SLAYER

[sullen dove]

[shell jackal]

yo gamers, what are people running for fyrakk mythic? we got him to 1.97% and im running augury/brand, but is rezans a better shout for ST/boss damage?

[summer quail]

both of those are higher damage st than rezans

[shell jackal]

ah excellent alright, wanted to double check

cheers

[summer quail]

easy way to find out what people are running is just check wclogs

[hard widget]

Keep in mind tho that this is the top parses for overall dmg, when looking at those breakdowns you wont see the people that play for more boss dmg at the expense of pad dmg

If you want to see what people do for boss dmg u can filter for that specifically and then look how much difference in boss dmg it actually makes to run more st orientated trinkets for example (if you dont need the add dmg ofcourse)

[oblique trail]

what

Borderline no one uses might or rezan on Fyrakk, and those that do are not near the top

Just go augury + brand

[hard widget]

It was meant in general

[summer quail]

can almost guarantee those who use might or rezan don't have augury+brand

[oblique trail]

For bosses anyway, at least this tier, the top trinkets are gonna be applicable to anyone really

Regardless of your intent

Only exception is Tindral where Might would probably net you more overall damage, but Tindral is Tindral

[hard widget]

Oh yeah definitely true

[summer quail]

was about to say that last part with tindral but ye very not relevant

[fast mural]

Padding on tindrall

[hard widget]

Btw, in shadowlands fated we didnt have a cap from the start right?

Forgot the name of it, valor right?

[sullen dove]

valor

[fast mural]

Valor is just flight stones

Reskinned

[hard widget]

Yeah but it was uncapped no in fated shadowlands?

[fleet sorrel]

yeah it was

[hard widget]

I doubt they will do that in season 4, would be cool tho

[silent burrow]

I mean, there's 4 trinkets used on fyrakk and might is 3rd

[oblique trail]

Yes I can see that

But what I mean is that they're outliers basically at 5% usage

The vast majority uses Aug + Brand

[silent burrow]

Unfortunately not all of us have an augury lol

rip

[clever belfry]

brand on igira moment (i hope it procs)

[silent burrow]

I have a champion track signet, and a 483 rezans/might... and a 489 branch

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/OYNpVf4.png @oblique trail pickrate check

[hasty path]

Intervene chad

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/ZfOWCzV.png

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[silent burrow]

filthy padders

[clever belfry]

i dont even know how u get value from this on igira

u press WW before they spawn

and theyre dead before u use 4 charges

lol

[oblique trail]

Intervene safeguard when

[eternal sundial]

I will intervene in your caffein intake

:3

[oblique trail]

I have consumed ONE cup of coffee today

And that's it

[clever belfry]

dps warr ivene shouldnt redirect AAs

its cornge

[silent burrow]

I guess the potential for them to be up and it do a tick of damage at some point is higher than zero, so it has the potential to add damage? Where you don't need pain and gain for instance, and it doesn't do damage

[clever belfry]

jus tbe the external

[silent burrow]

so you aren't losing anything for the potential to gain something

[clever belfry]

if this is ur groups dmg on the spears

its not 0

in a real group
its 0

???????

3 🦉

[silent burrow]

Sometimes groups be designating people to pad

[clever belfry]

correct, which is why i pointed this out

[hasty path]

Surely one is a Carry if they’re below healer

[clever belfry]

nah

boomi just specs 0 aoe

[oblique trail]

This would be very sick but it also means you can't DBTS + Intervene as Arms

Which could be a potentially big loss of a niche use case in keys!

[dire badge]

[clever belfry]

ok then how about

[modest condor]

hey man if you're going for parses then even the possibility of 1 more tick of whirlwind is better than nothing

[clever belfry]

make it a choice node like restoral vs revival!

[hasty path]

[sullen dove]

i think I used to actually use that as a strat on m sylv platform to help tank from dying

First adds left side don’t remember the particulars but either I did it cuz I felt like it or he just needed the help

[ancient quiver]

Just make it act like bop for dps war and double the cd

[sullen dove]

We love dbts intervene

[clever belfry]

hell nah

[silent burrow]

I know I did

[ancient quiver]

Idk how to fix it without also upping the cd tbh

Otherwise op

[silent burrow]

Damn I am straight up getting augury diffed

[flat river]

TWW when

[silent burrow]

First we meme season

[dapper jacinth]

Bro warriors re not playing healers...

[flat river]

I hate meme seasons

[dapper jacinth]

Hosen 😡

[summer quail]

alpha soon™

[silent burrow]

idk, at least I'll be able to just outright buy all the items that never dropped for me

[flat river]

Yeah but you get bored mid-season

At least in the normal seasons you get bored end of it

[eternal sundial]

Meme season will be pop 4 seeds on 1 fyrakk roar

[flat river]

[eternal sundial]

Heroic + endboss

[flat river]

New raid affix: Fyrakk revives Raszageth and they duo fight as a 4th phase

[eternal sundial]

Id rather just enjoy each boss seperately

[flat river]

New raid affix: Joe Biden comes in mid fight and says "SODAAAAA" and Fyrakk dies

[ancient quiver]

Fyrak seeds with raz room shrink

[flat river]

Or "it's joever"

50/50 chance for either

[eternal sundial]

It does that

Btw

[ancient quiver]

But not as cool

[eternal sundial]

Not wrong

Cant wait to save 8 talent builds per raid poggers

[flat river]

Real

[ancient quiver]

They double roar

Cross beams

[flat river]

[silent burrow]

Then you just take the rest of the season off when you get bored and nobody cares

[flat river]

I wonder if TWW trilogy will last each xpac the same as a normal xpac

Or will each be like a mini one

Like each it's own season

Or 2 seasons each

Idk

[ancient quiver]

It's 3 diff expansions about anduins mood swings

[flat river]

XD

[humble lark]

was thinking of picking up fury for s4. but how doomed will i be for not having the axe?

[eternal sundial]

Bout 6% of your damage doomed

As of current tuning

[ancient quiver]

U have 2 weeks just get it before then

🧠

[humble lark]

so i can still do fine pushing keys without it?

[flat river]

Wait season 4 is in 2 weeks?

[silent burrow]

3 innit

[ancient quiver]

3 yea

Forgor

[flat river]

:o

[eternal sundial]

It's generally okay without though obviously not ideal

[silent burrow]

Can I interest you in retribution paladin

[eternal sundial]

Crit did 30s without it but obviously gained damage getting it

[flat river]

I need to do DHT and Everbloom as +20's

[humble lark]

i got a reti with axe. just dont find it as fun. hence why am looking for a new main 🙂

[flat river]

Ret is fun af

[flat river]

Fym

XD

[silent burrow]

idk what to tell you if you don't think ret is fun lol

[eternal sundial]

Taste is subjective

[silent burrow]

rerolling fury from ret to do keys with is wild

[eternal sundial]

No it's not

[silent burrow]

yeah it is lol

[brittle crow]

fury is more fun than ret

that's why we're here

simple as

[flat river]

Real

[eternal sundial]

Ret doesnt have charge

Horrible spec

[flat river]

Real also

[brittle crow]

this but unironically

i cant live without charge and leap

[flat river]

I can't live without battle shout

Someone saying WARRIOR SHOUT

I just shout irl

I forget

[humble lark]

the wholy fantasy of charging in with two big two handers is just awesome

[flat river]

That too

[brittle crow]

i get my name called because ive been our only warrior for this whole tier xd

[flat river]

xd

[silent burrow]

having to remind people to buff every pull makes my skin crawl

[eternal sundial]

I never get asked to shout as i have a wa that reminds me to and it's never not up for readycheck

[silent burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dropped-this-king-you-dropped-this-queen-you-dropped-this-you-dropped-this-king-meme-you-dropped-this-meme-gif-25206668

[flat river]

They should just call you 5% dmg boost

I don't have a WA

I use it off cd

[silent burrow]

token of appreciation moment

[flat river]

I also sometimes use it mid fight because someone might've died and i was too focused on zug zuging

[brittle crow]

i miss token so badly

[silent burrow]

If you have WA you know if you need to rebuff mid fight 🙂

[eternal sundial]

Tbf if you yell for token on fury

Bit grief

The moonkin needs it

[brittle crow]

my secret is i dont give a fuck if someone dies

[silent burrow]

it for sure was useful on some fights in sl

[brittle crow]

you died? not my skill issue

[flat river]

Real

[eternal sundial]

Cuz sl fury wasnt df fury

What can i say

[brittle crow]

the only time i rebuff mid fight is if told to

[silent burrow]

Yeah, but that's when we had token lol

[brittle crow]

i have my WA set to unload in combat

[silent burrow]

yikes

[brittle crow]

xd

im not losing MY parse to someone standing in fire

(maybe i should rebuff more)

[silent burrow]

The overall damage the group does going to be more effected by you spending a gcd to re-buff

And the goal is to kill boss

If it's like mega parse time farm I get it

But otherwise, it all adds up

[brittle crow]

the goal isn't to kill the boss

it's to parse

even on prog

[ancient quiver]

My guild would be really mad if they could read

[summer quail]

or leap

I can't play without charge and leap anymore

[brittle crow]

without leap i have to actually care about positioning xd

with leap i can just avoid shit

my healers love me im sure

[summer quail]

leap on dathea when you had the spread circle was so fun. leaping over people scaring the shit out of them, i'm sure everyone else loved it

[brittle crow]

charge on sludgefist type beat

[modest condor]

i remember scaring the hell out of my partner with my charges on sludgefist

[brittle crow]

my raid lead hated me but i never killed anyone so sucks to suck

got booted from the guild eventually anyways so w/e

[mossy fox]

same

most often the ret

oh wait nvm i dont think thats true, im misremembering

old age innit

i scared someone with charges anyway

[brittle crow]

man i miss castle nathria

wish i could run it again fr

denathrius come back ..

wouldn't mind if he came back as a "terrible person helps out of necessity" like azshara did

[summer quail]

i have ptsd from mythic slg, basically killed the guild i was in

mythic sludgefist prob one of my fav bosses of all time tho

[indigo quarry]

Dont worry blizzard will forgor he exists and is free

[flat river]

Play shadowlands private server

[silent burrow]

Every time I got linked to our hpal it was a jumpscare. Because she would just bubble if it got spooky at all. And she was an idiot, so everything was scary

[mossy fox]

lol

[silent burrow]

it was a death sentence

[strong tusk]

question, i got lego on my dk and pally, i wanted to run fury next season, will i need to have it drop again? or can i buy it with dinars

[modest condor]

need to drop it again

dinars can only upgrade an existing one to fated

[manic gulch]

is it true that they botted the voting for the tiers at the last day so the s3 tier would win ?

i thought we would get s2 tier for fated

turns out its s3

[barren dagger]

You trolling?

[shadow cove]

I hope not

[manic gulch]

[shadow cove]

EU wheelchaired for Fury S2

[manic gulch]

which tier won the voting ?

s2 or s3

i remember s2

[shadow cove]

last time I looked it was s2

[barren dagger]

S2 won

[shadow cove]

but you said it is S3

[manic gulch]

but i was told yesterday that they botted it last day to make it s3

[shadow cove]

no

[manic gulch]

i was skoomed

[shadow cove]

the result was S2

[manic gulch]

and i almost skoomed the rest of you too

[barren dagger]

There was an irregular increase in votes for s2 which caused some drama

S2 won in the end

[manic gulch]

oof

nice

[shadow cove]

no

not nice

[manic gulch]

very nice

[shadow cove]

https://tenor.com/cyqHnPwz5cJ.gif

[manic gulch]

no more sleepge fury

[modest condor]

s2 very nice

[brittle crow]

they botted it to make it s2

xd

[manic gulch]

nice

[barren dagger]

Its not necessarily bots. Can be people voting with multiple accounts

[manic gulch]

why they didn't add the voting in the game i wonder

[brittle crow]

either way rigged election

[shadow cove]

yeah rigged, I go over and slam with arms

https://tenor.com/bXAn9.gif

[manic gulch]

arms got a good tier too i heard

[barren dagger]

Arms looking like it dumpsters fury for now anyways

[manic gulch]

wtf

[barren dagger]

So you can close this channel

[manic gulch]

buff when

[left perch]

Arms is like 60k ahead of fury ST

[silent burrow]

imagine, warrior tuning

[left perch]

but aoe is not that bad iirc

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vThuWdF77rcZ3OF1a2xMgnMM5Udo8mpn9n3gx8IymKNabO-jg3LnE7LQV_t-EjQPcAzqiDdjztIOwZW/pubhtml

[left perch]

Ya surely they will tune fury

[silent burrow]

surely

lol

[modest condor]

was like that in 10.0.5 as well

[brittle crow]

i got gorehowl so i need to learn arms anyways

that's the rules

[manic gulch]

was arms ahead of fury in s2 too ?

or is this because of the tier buffs and the higher ilvl of s4

[strong tusk]

So does this mean we will go back to the ravager build from last season

[hardy shuttle]

Fury st was like bottom of the barrel if I remember right

At least in those wowhead weekly dps rankings looking at boss damage

[shy knot]

We going arms then

[barren dagger]

Why is RA ahead of AM for dslice though? I though fury played AM by default next season

[shy knot]

I hope thats a mistake of some kind

RA in m+ was so bad

[silent burrow]

It was right in the middle along with arms for most of the season

They did tuning at the very end of the season and gave arms a big buff so the very end of the season is really skewed

[summer quail]

no, not botted. voted per character

[brittle crow]

ok bot

[summer quail]

🤖

[manic gulch]

[ebon junco]

Dslice still just favors a bit of ST

If you check 5T AoE

the choice is clear

[modest condor]

it usually has more to do with cd timings

and the apl not being optimised for dslice since season 1

unfortunately i dont know how to start dslice apl stuff so i cant help there

[amber arch]

how do you survive the first pull of DHT?

[modest condor]

press enraged regen

[amber arch]

random party members getting one shot in a 25

[oblique trail]

focus the bear, kick the owls

Cats just kinda do a lot of damage on high keys

[modest condor]

you shouldnt get 1shot

you just have to press defensives for the first cat leap and make sure they die before the 2nd

[silent burrow]

Don't get clapped by the dudes focusing you

[modest condor]

which shouldnt be too hard with lust and all cds tbh

[amber arch]

I think the screeches went off

[modest condor]

well there's your answer

[amber arch]

I charged in, reck+ww as I charge, next global I try to hit shockwave and im already dead

[oblique trail]

So either you didn't let the tank get aggro, or you got cat jumped instantly

Either one

[silent burrow]

wait for 3 sunders

[oblique trail]

Pretty sure cats have a bit before they do their first jump

[amber arch]

screech killed me and rogue

[modest condor]

yeah that's not instant

[left perch]

[modest condor]

you got cat jumped, no defensive, no healthpot, no IV

[oblique trail]

3 sec to pot/IV and interrupt

[silent burrow]

rip

you got all kinds of tools to survive. But tools don't work if you leave them in the toolbox

[amber arch]

ya heat of the moment, usually I start hitting defensives after a few seconds since the DH usually locks the first pack down for a few seconds

[flat river]

Next dungeon

There is always another mechanic

[amber arch]

like do DHs not usually put a chains or sigil of silence on the pack?

[modest condor]

neither of those things stop cat leaps

[amber arch]

idk I guess im not used to having to use defensives on pull. didnt notice healthbar as I was targetting around

[modest condor]

unless the chain is perfectly timed to go off mid air

[amber arch]

next time ill enraged regen on pull as well

[modest condor]

if you get targeted by a cat yes do that

[mossy fox]

cat leaps can't really be stopped consistently

[silent burrow]

just use your defensives as you need em lol

[amber arch]

didnt really matter because the cast going off kill me and rogue, then the healer got double leaped and died

[mossy fox]

unless you're doing a very high key, you shouldn't need more than IV to top yourself off after getting cat leaped

[amber arch]

we wiped, tried the pull again, cat jumps killed people again, bricked key within 2 pulls

[silent burrow]

saved you some time it sounds like

[mossy fox]

topping yourself off asap is very high prio, since the dot is removed when you get max health

[amber arch]

ahh kk

[silent burrow]

@ebon junco I just noticed that the sims you have are only dropping the crafted gear by 3ilvl

[oblique trail]

Not all of them have been fixed yet after the extra 3 ilvl drop they announced

Primarily the Fury ones anyway

[silent burrow]

ah, I just clicked on one of the fury ones yeah

so the disparity is even bigger than it looks then lol

[modest condor]

btw the fury 5t sim has a custom apl, what's changed from normal?

[silent burrow]

[oblique trail]

Think it in particular has the new addition for externals?

Unless that's already implemented

[modest condor]

ok so no actual changes in the apl itself

[silent burrow]

AYEEEE dusting off my BOONIN macro

[left perch]

You can do it with axe

[silent burrow]

Holy fuckaroni

[left perch]

ya @indigo quarry cooked that for me

Cursed

[silent burrow]

That will be kind of hilarious to do

I need to get on ptr and see if lego charge will move boon like shadowstep

[flat river]

That would be big

[modest condor]

you cant lego during boon

[flat river]

[silent burrow]

Little early to be killing the fun bud

[modest condor]

it's 5pm

[left perch]

but he said you could

[silent burrow]

I wish I could travel to 5pm rn

[left perch]

oh he did leggo then boon during

[silent burrow]

Be pulling into my driveway

[left perch]

/use 16 /use 13

[silent burrow]

Oh, well that's still okay

fun resumed

[oblique trail]

You just boon mid leggo charge

It wont be cancelled like if you accidentally charge as well mid leggo charge

[ebon junco]

yes cus all profiles were 525 DKs / Priest / Evokers n etc

[paper ivy]

i think fury is going to be special our pic is on the release poster^^

[oblique trail]

Fury is definitely special in one way

[silent burrow]

Like short bus special

[silent burrow]

Word. I haven't seen anyone else's tbh

[unreal onyx]

finally, perfectly balanced ⚖️

[feral ivy]

haste is cap at 25%? right?

[unreal onyx]

cap is whatever robot tells you

no 🧢

[feral ivy]

im at 31% and its telling me to get ring enchant .. weird

[oblique trail]

Stats aren't static

What's best changes based on the rest of your gear

And while there are values where some stats generally will gain less value, doesn't mean it wont be the best for some gear setups past that value

[fast mural]

there is a softcap where some stats give diminishing returns

[ebon junco]

No one knew what ilvl it would be so

guess in the dark

[silent burrow]

Oh for sure, it was a totally fair assumption

I was just saying I have't seen any other sims

[ebon junco]

but for some reason

nerfing crafted gear

again

xdd

[barren dagger]

Is it confirmed btw that leggo will be 7 ilvl above mythic track like this season?

Or we assuming

[fast mural]

it seems like leggo is gonna be same ilvl as mythic weapons

it said 528 and thats myth track gear

[silent burrow]

surely not

[barren dagger]

Who said 528?

[fast mural]

the post about the upgrade item

[barren dagger]

In your sim Canhas you put 535

[silent burrow]

I didn't sim anything

[ebon junco]

528 is mythic track
535 is rare end boss items / lego

522 is crafted

currently

[fast mural]

i dont know if it was just wowhead assuming things or if it was dataminded

but it did say it would be upgradable to 528

[silent burrow]

Maybe a miscommunication, because even rare items are 535 on ptr

[oblique trail]

It's not gonna be 528

[fast mural]

does myth track start at 502 ?

cause thats where the leggo would start appearently

[barren dagger]

So the 535 items like rings are gonna be bis regardless of stats right?

In optimal setups

[oblique trail]

All items will be on the same track, 1/12

Rare items will be 1/14

Which includes the lego

[hasty path]

Not always

Idk for fury in particular but jewelry is an exception to iLvl > all in many cases

[silent burrow]

I mean, we didn't use raz trinket

[oblique trail]

Or rather, all Bullion items will be 1/12* (1/14 for rare)

[hasty path]

Trinkets too

[oblique trail]

Myth track starts at 519

[hasty path]

Jewelry/trinkets are basically always potential exceptions to iLvl > all

Since in the case of jewelry, no mainstat. Trinkets, well, they’re trinkets. What they do tends to be more important than how much stat they give

[silent burrow]

Hence me still having to use a champion track trinket this season...

[hallow kraken]

Has Archi made an editorial on the Slayer hero talent tree yet?

[barren dagger]

I still use 478 signet yeah

[silent burrow]

pins

[hallow kraken]

right but not a WoWhead article correct?

i dont see it in the pins

[silent burrow]

.

[hallow kraken]

...I know that one. Thats not what im asking

thanks anyways

[silent burrow]

Click the link

It literally goes over it all in great detail

[manic gulch]

what are the opinions about fury hero talents

i think so far most hero talents are boring

[silent burrow]

I can't say I agree

[manic gulch]

fair

maybe they turn out way better in action

from what i'm imagining

[left perch]

They seem fun, but I think they miss the mark from what I hoped

I hoped when they said “chose a style of play you like” it meant it was balanced. It does not look like it will be lol

[silent burrow]

idk, the warrior ones are okay, who knows what tuning will be

the ret ones are fuckin bangers tho

[manic gulch]

ofc they are

[left perch]

evoker ones have some 🔥

[manic gulch]

paladin is the favorite child

[silent burrow]

idk ret was down bad for a long ass time lol

[summer quail]

i like them, tho mountain thane is a bit too rng but they can easily fix that

[slim coral]

Most people love them from the look at them

[silent burrow]

Yeah honestly as long as they SOUND cool, it's good. cause then it just boils down to the tuning

[manic gulch]

nice

[silent burrow]

Ones that don't sound cool but pump, will be meh

[slim coral]

What's really gonnna matter if the visuals

[silent burrow]

Dude yeah

[slim coral]

since the entire point of them trees is to make a cool theme

[manic gulch]

i don't expect much from blizz tbh

[summer quail]

the evoker mass disintigrate is too cool

[manic gulch]

they will probably just reuse assets

they do that most of the time

for the visuals

and maybe they update them later

like they did with some skills in s3

[barren dagger]

Slayer looks stronger than thane but let’s see

[feral ivy]

i just got the leggo yesterday and was confused when should i use the leggo. before cds or after cds? or doesnt matter

[barren dagger]

Thane fantasy pushes it to dwarves which is weird for a class playable by every race

[summer quail]

that's okay i already play dwarf

[left perch]

after is good

can be situational on timers tho

[manic gulch]

according to logs after cds

someone said that you should never do it during recklessness because that's when you want to spam bt for big crits

[barren dagger]

You wanna use cds anyways asap so you just use leggo after that

[feral ivy]

ooo ok ok make sense

tyty

makes**

[strong prawn]

SLAYER

[manic gulch]

only thing i'm afraid in the hero talents

is bladestorm on fury

sounds like forced channeled downtime

they do mention that you will be able to kick and use hammer for cc during it tho

i was expecting some kind of talents that would promote the "zug zug non stop go go go kill kill" gameplay of fury

[lavish beacon]

[flat river]

[manic gulch]

[oblique trail]

@young swan

[flat river]

If they made it affect ravager

Would've been banger

[manic gulch]

imagine if you could cast everything while bladestorm is going on

whirlwind of death

[flat river]

Real

While in bladestorm all your attacks hit in an AoE (basically unlimited whirlwind effect)

[manic gulch]

[flat river]

Would be dope af

[lavish beacon]

Bladestorm within Bladestorm

[flat river]

[manic gulch]

bladestorm^bladestorm

and also give it a chance

to proc more bladestorms

and make it stackable

[flat river]

Real

[manic gulch]

unlimited bladestorm works

[flat river]

New talent: you can now toggle bladestorm but you take dmg per second

OR

Actually nvm

Just that

[manic gulch]

[flat river]

• bladestorm heals you

[dense elbow]

If BS did damage and you could cast, then by the antifun logic that rules this world:
It would do 0 damage, and our overall rage regen would be nerfed somewhere else.

[flat river]

• gives you bubble because you block all attacks

[manic gulch]

true

we ain't paladins

[oblique trail]

Bladestorm already does piss damage

[dense elbow]

One thing I gotten from skyhold, fun is not allowed

[manic gulch]

we are not allowed to have fun

[flat river]

Any person that casts a spell on you or attacks you while bladestorming you reflect it

Affects raid bosses

[manic gulch]

they need to rework charge for pvp

when you charge on a caster

their computer explodes

[flat river]

Real

[manic gulch]

they deserve it

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o'hearn-real-brainfog-gif-7666610795160025826

[manic gulch]

[dense elbow]

If Xan sees this PvP talk you will get banned,if Archi sees GIFs you get banned. Heck if anyone see a Gala take, they die from cringe.
A lot of risk taken here

[brittle crow]

wtf we have furina emotes

[manic gulch]

[shell terrace]

@young swan

[manic gulch]

[shell terrace]

Can I have stormforged please

[young swan]

no

[dense elbow]

Can you ban gala?

[shell terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-standing-cursed-silvagunner-gif-23443759

[ruby tundra]

how do I reset a raid boss

[manic gulch]

pull and run away

if they leave their area they reset

[ruby tundra]

this one I cannot

[oblique trail]

Be a class with a combat drop ability and pull them at the same time as using it

Or run it out of the area they're in

[iron portal]

Or be NE

[ruby tundra]

I cannot

[dense elbow]

Use a inv pot as HT is midair

[oblique trail]

Then ask someone who's a hunter, mage or rogue to do it for you

Nelf might work as Raz said but I haven't tried it

[manic gulch]

can nelfs do it too with their invisibility ?

[dense elbow]

Yep

[oblique trail]

just go kill it?

[ruby tundra]

I cant

[oblique trail]

how so

[ruby tundra]

I think I have to kill the tenticles for this boss

[oblique trail]

what

no you just kill the eye

then go inside to kill the heart

[left perch]

You kill orbs near the eye gate

[ruby tundra]

im barely doing dmg

[left perch]

and then those damage it

there should be some spawns

[ruby tundra]

I did the spawns

and now none are spawning lol

[left perch]

shid

[dense elbow]

Just keep on grinding, gate will die one day or another

[left perch]

thought they kept going and you just kill them to explode near him

[dense elbow]

Spawns 3 sets, failing to use them was a wipe condition no?

[ruby tundra]

is there a way to make my character die

[dense elbow]

Nop, just grind on the wall

[left perch]

Hearth?

[dense elbow]

Maybe you can find a hill to jump down or a pool

[left perch]

And hope for 10s of resist any damage

[ruby tundra]

I get interrupt

fery nice

[dense elbow]

You can use the get unstuck option in the support options

[ruby tundra]

nice boss

[dense elbow]

Will to you to SW

Tp

[ruby tundra]

you cant do the thing where it tps you to the graveyard

[oblique trail]

I'm gonna be real I think you just have to keep hitting the eye until you eventually kill it even if it takes 99% less damage

Otherwise you're the first I've seen ever wipe to that boss since Legion ended

[dense elbow]

Well, try this: log unto another char for 3min, should force your main offline and spawn out from combat

[ruby tundra]

cant logout as well

very nice game

[oblique trail]

just altf4

[left perch]

If you do that and play another toon for awhile

[ruby tundra]

good idea

[left perch]

Eventually encounter / raid instance will stop

[ruby tundra]

so to actually kill the boss how do I do it

do I need to kill the tentacles outside ?

[summer quail]

he spawns these blobs, kill those at the eye

[dense elbow]

^

[ruby tundra]

I did that

and he didnt die

[dense elbow]

Did you run in and kill the brain/heart, before the gate closed again?

[dusk jackal]

Good morning Skyhold!

So who else is part of the no fyralath club?

[ruby tundra]

No I went to the eye

And killed the stuff that spawns

[left perch]

👋

[dense elbow]

Bring pools to the entryway into the heart, kill blobs, they damage it with their small AoE, so you got to get them close.
The eyestalks around the room, you just kill with ST, to make sure you dont kill the blobs wrong places.
Check a kill vid and make sure you are doing it correctly

[dense elbow]

Good evening

I am sadly still trapped in Tindral prison. 9%, and multiple chances. Sadly kill will be grey, but at last I will be on Fyrakk

[ruby tundra]

Ye will do tysm

[dense elbow]

💕

[summer quail]

big pad?

[barren dagger]

How you know kill will be grey?

Are you griefing?

[summer quail]

he's just saying he will die on the kill

[barren dagger]

top on details for all the prog but die during the kill. I know that

[summer quail]

sometimes it be like that, you're destroying the whole day and the 1 pull you fuck up it's a kill

[barren dagger]

Those that don’t have leggo only get a chance once every three weeks?

[dense elbow]

Always, they wait for it. And ye, bogus padus

[barren dagger]

Proper fucked

[summer quail]

might of the ocean padus?

[dense elbow]

You know it

[modest condor]

i dont see why you would have to wait 3 weeks? did they say non-awakened doesnt have a chance to drop lego?

[summer quail]

wish i was moto gamer on tswift, ethical boss damage player. atleast i got 99 boss dam

[barren dagger]

Oh i guess you could run old raid yeah

[dense elbow]

My boss dam is at best around 150-170k, so I let others handle that

[young swan]

theres almost certainly still gonna be people running heroic amir purely for lego chance

so I think you'll be good

[summer quail]

[dense elbow]

[manic gulch]

[dense elbow]

WFT and perhaps an aug?

[manic gulch]

i think its lfr

[summer quail]

wft ye, we don't run any evokers. filthy class

[manic gulch]

[summer quail]

my lfr parse is a 96

[dense elbow]

[summer quail]

lfr too hard

[sage smelt]

its not just me that likes to meme LFR/Normal parses?

[wanton mirage]

I posted myself in a recruitment discord. There seems to be 5-6 guilds of more or less the same caliber contacting me offering a spot/trial in reclear. How do I choose out of them? I don't have CE yet. what is the best way to choose one? lol

[summer quail]

choose the one that has the worst warrior player and a windfury totem

[wanton mirage]

that's a practical advise.. appreciated

[sage smelt]

Doesn't WCL remove the Aug DMG too? WF and a dedicated PI is what I've been doing.

[tender seal]

A dedicated PI ?

[sage smelt]

whisper priest, gimme PI here's 10k

[bitter palm]

switch to arms and priests will pi u

[tender seal]

Ah i thought you was continuing on crexx question on how to choose a guild

[dense elbow]

Nah, you now get some damage from aug targeting you - with all but the crit buff. PI counts on you, as long you dont get more than... 3? dont remember. WFT always counts 🫡

[sage smelt]

Yeah I had a few logs get disqualified when I had like 8 PI's was like wtf is this

[summer quail]

remove some of it, hooks are never gonna be 100% accurate

[dusk jackal]

i have no aug, no wind fury, and no PI in my raids. Even though i usually get #1 dps, my ilvl parses are gray.

[lament wing]

How long are the fights

[dense elbow]

Dont worry about log% on prog, they are always scuffed - as the kills are, the timers are, everything is.

You are competing vs minmax setups

Just make sure you do your job, and do it well. Then feel free to brag if you see that pop randomly

Greys though, just means you got the job done. If you got 0 tho...

[dusk jackal]

though not gray on this attempt, i felt like i did everything i could and still got a green parse:

that's heroic fyrakk

two of those other guys have fyralath

but not me

[dense elbow]

HC logs are all cheeze, dont sweat it. If you dont have two DKs to group up the adds, you wont breach the 99 mark.

Not to mention, everyone is fighting on that pad dam.

So dont worry about it

[summer quail]

ignore the ilvl parses, those are a meme

[bitter palm]

are u sure ur talents are correct and u arent wasting RA stacks

[dusk jackal]

ok, good to know

thank you

[dense elbow]

Here is my rule of thumb: I will do better than my last go at the boss

[slim coral]

what if you parse a 100

[dense elbow]

Then I make that old a 99

[slim coral]

what if you can't

[bitter palm]

something i noticed

replace shattering throw with wrecking throw

drop pain and gain and bitter immunity for dstance and rally

[dusk jackal]

shattering throw is really just used to help with the breaking of tindral's shield when he flies to his platform

[bitter palm]

i didnt go through everything but u have 12 more rampage casts than bloodbath which isn't good (141 - 129)

[bitter palm]

wrecking throw does the same thing

and its instant

shattering throw's worth comes from being able to destroy stuff like bubble

its a pvp talent

[manic gulch]

doesn't shattering do more dmg to shields because its not instant ?

[dusk jackal]

thanks for taking the time to help me

[barren dagger]

hc logs are all cheese in general or you mean for fyrrak?

[bitter palm]

shattering removes magical immunities wrecking doesnt

[bitter palm]

np i would practice on a dummy to get it down

rampage - bloodbath - rampage - bloodbath

to never waste a stack

obviously if ur enrage falls off due to a mechanic u dont want to send an unenraged 2p bloodbath

[bitter palm]

top 50 are rng

in general

but fyrakk is different

if u can grip all adds and everyone lets u do dam

u will parse high

if u dont have dks it will be rough

[manic gulch]

my rule of thumb is that orange and up is no longer just about you

but about your party too

for parses

could be wrong tho

[bitter palm]

depends on the boss

bosses like nymue

definitely do depend on the group

if she phases twice

u cant parse

u will get a purple

on heroic*

on mythic parsing is different

[dense elbow]

At this point, most logs are cheeze logs - so in general, yep yep

[barren dagger]

i tend to do better in pugs on bosses that are just ST. like nymue or volc

but yeah on fyrrak it's rough having to run around to aoe ads

[bitter palm]

i hate the rng this season

fury especially

in raid

[young swan]

the only real rng this season for fury is trinket rng

feel like arms is way worse with jugg uptime

[tidal kindle]

@balmy shore don't look outside monday

[jovial coral]

Very hatable

[indigo quarry]

trinket rng is unreal

stack brand in 1.5min

and get carried

[clever belfry]

blast more brand

[fast mural]

i hope you mean trinket rng as in getting the trinket

[indigo quarry]

thats a skill issue

[fast mural]

i got my first augury yesterday

[indigo quarry]

my guild was so lucky with Brand loot

[fast mural]

thats why i was playing arms

[indigo quarry]

we got like 6 brand in 3 smoldy kill

just from loot

all mythic

[fast mural]

i hate that brand has agility

so many classes need it now

its like essence or icon in S1 and S2

[indigo quarry]

not sure if its good for them

i know rogue dont care about it

[balmy shore]

ty garm my eye doctor has signs out saying to get your free eclipse glasses xd

[tidal kindle]

My eye doctor said stop playing games

I told him "you know thats not how that works"

[balmy shore]

damn u gottem

[tidal kindle]

||-14 vision btw||

[young swan]

i havent seen my eye doctor in like 6 years

[brittle crow]

bro what the fuck

MINUS FOURTEEN

[tidal kindle]

I played too many games bro

[brittle crow]

???

do they even make contacts that strong or are u stuck with goggles on ur head

[young swan]

so like is there anything u can see or

[tidal kindle]

I have to use 12.5 contacts that are daily disposables

[brittle crow]

im legally blind at -2.50 😭

[tidal kindle]

I can feel the weight on them on my eyes

[brittle crow]

bro wtf

[devout plaza]

Time to get those eyes melted with the lazers!

[brittle crow]

i mean i wear disposables too but they're so thin they're basically jelly

[balmy shore]

bro xan's BLUE

[brittle crow]

cuz it's the confiest

[balmy shore]

wowza

[young swan]

i have ascended

[modest condor]

yeah he's not looking too well

[tidal kindle]

Your eyes worse than mine or what

[young swan]

[brittle crow]

xan is a mod?

[balmy shore]

BLIND

[brittle crow]

im out ..

[tidal kindle]

Xan can help you with that

[balmy shore]

IDK I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT SKYHOLD IN A HOT MIN

[tidal kindle]

[young swan]

[brittle crow]

archi has already helped w that like 3 times now

that's why my discord doesn't say member since 2016

[tidal kindle]

LMAO

[young swan]

no ban since 2022

hot streak!

[brittle crow]

im doing good!

[balmy shore]

garm do you have like fishbowls on ur head

for that vision

[brittle crow]

are U blind too cuz he said what he wears

xdddd

[balmy shore]

no i just can't read

that's very different

:3

[tidal kindle]

I do have glasses

But I try to not wear them

[brittle crow]

i never learned how to read ..

[balmy shore]

mine are -6

[young swan]

mine are -0.75

:3

[brittle crow]

xan blind too

sad!

[balmy shore]

wow ur so COOL

[brittle crow]

and i thought i was blind at -2.50

xd

[young swan]

honestly its probably worse but again i havent been to an optometrist in like 6 years

[balmy shore]

my bf has 20/20 and likes to bring it up weekly

big dork energy...

[young swan]

i went from 20/10 vision to glasses in a year

[brittle crow]

i might get lasik soon since ive been -2.50 for yrs now

[tidal kindle]

Optemetrist, fine

[brittle crow]

then i can brag

too

[tidal kindle]

Opthamalogist, not so fine

[young swan]

its okay to pray on his downfall

[tidal kindle]

Former is in charge of your corrective vision
Latter is for eye health in general

You should go to an opthamalogist

[devout plaza]

After getting lazerd I had 20/15, but then old age kicked in and have to wear readers. "Checkmate" said my eyes.

[balmy shore]

ye im waiting for mine to even out too mine's been stable for a year so hoping i can do lasik in a few years 🤞

[tidal kindle]

Every year I aska bout lasik

[young swan]

yeah i havent done either so

[tidal kindle]

Every year "The benefits gained in correcting your vision don't outweigh the risks/side effects at the currently level of technology"

[balmy shore]

monka

garm needs robot eyes

[brittle crow]

ya and now me and archi are bffs so i think we bonded over me being banned 3 times

[young swan]

:D

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/bsPjV.gif

[young swan]

yippie!

[balmy shore]

can't wait to be banned one day

[modest condor]

same

[indigo quarry]

if you ask nicely

[modest condor]

also imagine being such a nerd you actually wear glasses

[indigo quarry]

i'm sure he would honor you with a ban

[tidal kindle]

That's what I'm sayin

[edgy widget]

!kick @balmy shore

[balmy shore]

ty archi dream come true

[edgy widget]

🙃

[balmy shore]

ur a nerd

[tidal kindle]

Yknow what it is
It's probably deep seated trauma from when this one girl said to me in middle school she'd have danced with me if I didn't have glasses

Downhill since

[balmy shore]

LMAOOOOO

[edgy widget]

I hate to tell you this

but she was lying

[tidal kindle]

LMAOOOO

[balmy shore]

middle school garm needed more rizz...

[tidal kindle]

Thanks for keeping it real Archi

[dire badge]

we’re you wearing telescopes back then too?

[edgy widget]

you're wearing a santa hat in April man, you need all the help you can get

[tidal kindle]

OH

TRUE

SPRING IS HERE

[young swan]

one time in grade school a group of this girls friends who i had a crush on asked if i wanted to go to a dance with her and i thought it was a trick so I said no

[thorn venture]

I wish I was cool and got to wear glasses like you guys

[young swan]

dont feel too bad garms

[tidal kindle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1138213725308997672/1183075091983118377/charmandermasktransparent.gif?ex=6587038a&is=65748e8a&hm=fc6088323e8ec5fce22a5583269f385cf39ccba94e270dcd1b21cf1a84611c6c&

[indigo quarry]

it was a trap

[summer quail]

there's snow outside my window...

[balmy shore]

in april!!!!!?

[young swan]

yeah i just got a ton of snow too

[summer quail]

ye... stupid norway

[young swan]

bad month

[slim coral]

[tidal kindle]

Ight we're back

[young swan]

canada bad

[balmy shore]

it's gonna be 70 next week spring is HERE

[dire badge]

it’s 50 in Florida (which is practically snow)

[young swan]

take mask off i miss the charmander smile

[tidal kindle]

Taken under consideration

[summer quail]

[tidal kindle]

35F is like

1.5 C?

Maybe 1.6

Something like that

God

I'm so smart

[indigo quarry]

I WON

[summer quail]

oh ye yours is in F, forgot about that

[eternal sundial]

[edgy widget]

only took 11 years! 🎉

[indigo quarry]

i didnt farm that much for it its ok

[edgy widget]

more alarming that it's been 11 years since SoO released

almost

[indigo quarry]

only came back since WoD

[balmy shore]

that's like a small child

[young swan]

🥳

[fallen ginkgo]

gz!

[dense elbow]

these pixels annoy me

[tidal kindle]

Yah but thjey're not in my pfp

Which is what matters

[oblique trail]

yoo

I've missed og spinning Garmander

well

[young swan]

same..

[oblique trail]

It's not quite og but..

[slim coral]

ok so the crafted item level was a bug

so I gues we're not gonna know what the raid affix is

[manic gulch]

there is gonna be one ?

[indigo quarry]

surprise

[manic gulch]

[slim coral]

pretty sure they said there would be one yeah

unless I misunderstood

[edgy widget]

na, they said there would not

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

[clever path]

So its just gonna be repeats of the raids on mythic lite?

[edgy widget]

back in Nov

TLDR was that while the idea of affixes were fun, it ended up making people feel like they were reprogging a lot of fights with new timings, etc, which wasn't very well received

Personally I feel like affixes were still a good idea and could have been iterated on... just toned down a bit from what they were in SL, but I guess it was easier just to cut them entirely

[slim coral]

yeah if they just made it so you got really strong it woul dbe good

[clever path]

Antorus like trinkets would be cool

[manic gulch]

is there an equivalent of CE on fated seasons ?

[slim coral]

yeah you get the teleports

thats about it

and mount I think

[edgy widget]

• Voyaging Wilderling mount for all normal
• Awakened Hero title for all heroic
• Teleports for all mythic

[manic gulch]

hmm

i see

ty

[edgy widget]

There are "kill all awakened bosses" achievements, but there aren't any AOTC/CE achievements specifically

[ornate gust]

teleport to raids similiar to dungeons ?

[edgy widget]

yep

[barren dagger]

could you equate the skill level needed to get CE, similar to the skill level needed for title in m+?

specifically this season