#fury
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did the spellqueue thing gain u dam btw
Yeah I’ll answer more in a second just on a time crunch eating with my dad rn
But thankyou
Yeah I’m doing like 260k overall in keys
Always number one dmg
But liek
I csn see my gcds now
It was a funny conversation
and you can now queue them
I thought I was lagging
i mean ye itll feel diff
But zhai told me no That’s hurt me seeing the gcd
And waiting on gcd
Just ke *
I thought the gcd swiper eas me lagging
like i said - prepress or lose a bazillion gcds a fight
Standing still to me is crazy

????
if 400 feels awful go 300
i know ur used to inting ur dam with 46
but do start going down from 400 rather than up imo
im at 300 but thats just me
ye idk i go bedge
Spell queuing
hallo anda
Meow
Wdym, swq is about 200k dps on this randomized sim trials Ive run but got no evidence of
sqw should be ping + 100 to maximize how you fail at following the prio

:catyap:
first season of frieren slapped
i dont like how passive frieren is tho
no more frieren fridays literally joever


Worst image quality every but lol if that's real
Apparently someone randomly got mailed it instead of their correct loot
So basically all 3 raids give s2 tier
For fury yes
It'll just be the same system they have now, where they give the same item but bonus swaps based on the spec you're in
them subscriber graphs really show that classic actually saved wow
i bet the plunder got a few people back as well
no shot they axe this playmode
that streamer event will have pretty insane viewer count i think
Guys wtf
Im actually pissed
Im 20 years old right
Another guy in Uni passed by me and asked me if i was "Dr. Amr"
LIKE BRO IM 20
XD
Bro saw a dude in glasses with a backpack and a big ass beard and said "yep that's him"
you look old then
Why r u complaining that u look older than ur age
Thats good
Why are you complaining about being mistaken for a doctor
beards make you look older
if you want to look younger shave the beard
You'll look more wise 
Wizardmaxxing
do you know what the set at 2.5k rating is ?
is it this set or is this only for pvp
That's the pvp set
If you look at the mythic raid set
Notice the glow
You unlock the glow for the other difficulties by getting 2.5k
The glow is the fire from the shoulders this time around
how do I see what it looks like
The mythic set has it by default
bruh thats not worth at all
You also get the mount at 2k and a good feeling accomplishing a goal
Though the last seasons have had cooler glows
yea I have the mount and I just recently started in shadowlands like a week ago lol
so I sadly dont have the older ones
this season sucks
We get the season 2 set tmog next tier
we can get the season 2 set again?
ah ok nice

They should have made the fire different colors to match the different set colors
Like raid finder should have been blue fire
just hit 70 whats the fastest way to get some basic gear to get high enough ilvl to que for the higher content in group finder
Just buy 424 gear and run. 12s
That's too rich for my blood

c:
for mythic + should i run with dancing blades or titanic rage?
is there a m+ build i could grab somewhere?
This is what I generally run for any key level
You technically lose a bit of damage going for Shockwave, but it's such a small amount you wont feasibly notice it
BgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAQggSCQEEiQS0AhISEEJBSkkESSSEEplSSCIJBAAABEE
thank you very much 😄
@oblique trail opinion on pants?
droprate on them?
what
why would I hate pants?
unaware
do I want to be aware
Haste pants
can you get the wep to drop off of lfr ?
yes
anyone got a macro to apply weapon runes, im tired of wasting them
it just keep reapplying them to the same weapon everytime
It applies twice to the same weapon if you spam apply the rune
Just wait a second after using the rune, and it'll apply to your offhand
Hosen anger face
You don't need to do that
Just don't spam apply the rune
Use rune, wait 1 sec after it finishes, use rune again
i just press shout between the runes
Im doing more damage now
I didnt realize the item set was that important
happy for you
none for dps increases. macro to swap between stances is quite nice tho
Stance dance is rare enough that most don’t need the macro
thank you dr. house can i use idk like the main cds on a macro ?
ye it's just qol
Explicitly do not do that lmao
They’re not supposed to be used at exactly the same time
oh
OF activates avatar, so you wanna wait until you get the value out of that (and the supercharged Bloodbaths) before actually using avatar to do it again
But the other 1 you use immediately
so these three not use together ?
the supercharged bloodthirst part is irrelevant, stacks up to 6. it's coz of odyns fury dot
what is the rotation of these ? how or when do i use the cds ?
reck>charge>rampage>odyns>roar/spear> bb ramp til odyns fury dot has almost dropped then avatar
ok i will try it, tbut yeah defo the 3 together was false 😄
on aoe you would use whirlwind mid charge
does +15s still reward max lvl loot from the great vault?
no
20s rewards the highest from great vault, tho 18s give the same track. so you can upgrade to same ilvl just with more material
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Käse
+18s goated
ITS HOW I DO IT
no its fine to do that, i do it with reck/avatar/on use trinket usually, for mythic+ i have a seperate button that i push that is a reck charge macro for openers, most times you wont have odyns lining up with reck/avatar so having them macrod together isnt a bad thing, but dont use it during openers or if odyns is somehow about to line up with reck
It's a bad thing because there are many times where you wont use them together, and it teaches bad muscle memory
idk ive teached myself not to do it
Practice the opener a few times and you'll have the hang of it
saves me alot of button pushes
It's spaced out enough that you wont have issues pressing a ton of buttons all at once
someone can help me sim guys?
i am having way more vers, way less crit compare to other fury players, but everything i try suggest keep this
i am sure i need to change something and cant figure what
send the sim in here lemme look at it
like the link to it
1 sec
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kBEWgHfmr2pvCSG4yckv19
this?
notice that this is probly single target 5 mninutes, and i am focus now in mythic fyrakk
yeah, that but the top gear sim that tells you to do whatever it is you are confused about
cant use a quick sim for much
i am not sure hot to sim "correctly" fyrakk
5 minute 1 target is fine
are you just equipping random stuff and doing quick sims or are you actually top gearing
i try tons of options, all suggest do what i am having
are you using quick sims or top gear
both options of gear and number of targets and time
like 2 target 3 minutes
4 target 1 minute
etc
are you using quick sims or top gear
top gear
could you link that please
i run maybe 50 sims on top gear
you shouldnt need 50 sims if you set up one correctly
sure looks good
tyvm for all the help guys!
Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it
so true zhai
i can craft lariat and other items ofc
if you're progging fyrakk your current crafted shit is fine
theres a good chance you sim more than me hold on
Need more intellect
or maybe this setup is indeed fine?
which will be very confusing as i am having wayt less crit compare to other players
okay i do sim more but your sim is more than fine to kill fyrakk lol
just cheked logs,surly i am not top player, but the stats can be similer at this point
like u got more crit than me and im psure crit is my worst stat
its diff for diff people ofc
you worry too much about stats
if you've figured out the best stuff with sims you can probably gain more by researching peoples cd and defensive usage
ya i do that also
anything that can help as i am mostly focus on not get killed
XD
true
also @median marsh have you tried simming whether a crafted neck would be an upgrade
not yet, will check
@clever belfry @dapper jacinth Hosen 😡
sup, anyone has some Season 2/4 AOE opener sequence for me?ß
charge, onslaught, roar, ww, reck/rav, rampage...
somethingin that direction?
roll head on keyboard
Hosen 😡
+
fokin andalf hosen 😡
@oblique trail gzz
Hosen gedroppt??
ye, this tier is rough
freedom innit
Congratulations bonzi
just kill him then it isnt an issue
betcha didnt think of that
windwalker monk is fun
Get someone to login on an alt
And enter the raid on the alt
It helped us
thanks phillus
yo can you stop stream so i can clip
I just did
even more angery
What are you hiding?!?
xd
I wasn't even paying attention to that
Was still tilted from dying
And fully lockedi n just pressing buttons
its fine bro
352
Monka
@oblique trail gz ;3
most of the time yeah
More uses>>> "good" uses
Ok tysm
Cuz you end up telling yourself "next pack..." over and over again
And by the time you use it
You lost a full use
Especially next season holding CDs is extremely bad with anger management returning
I compete with the other people in damage, if im lacking and my cds are up I use them
Dont look at meters - if the mobs arent almost dead just rip your cds
I dont get into that much detail, I just try to keep whirlwind up and use rampage then bloodbath
Thats the fun part of m+
@oblique trail gz
Meow :3
:3
:3
was the hunter afk
ok
He said nice carry noy bc of my fos
Dps
Bc I literally solod the second and last boss
From 30%
spooky
ouch

Does the legendary benefit from cooldowns? Like should I align it with ava?
that's what I thought
Do we open with the leggo and then pot -> opener?
Or just send it outside CDs whenevs
Its hard to open without using your proper opener, since u need to spread the mark of fyraleth first
I usually use it after
👍
buy it or
buying it
but at what cost..
500 bucks
Playing warrior has increased my testosterone by a thousandfold
ok
hip thrusts increased my testosterone trillionfold
happy for you
ik I got a nice ass cuz of it
i cant say anything ill get in trouble
Why
If you have something mean to say you can dm me to vent that frustration😌😊
🪤

dawg im fiending for the cheese
🧇
he is not cheesed about getting cheesed
he NEEDS to be tucked in
🐰
soon!
Will syoon
i hate that fuckin thing
that ones at least funnier
70 on M Tindy not bad could have been better 
tindral parses are definitely real
🐭

do not speak of Her
☝️ 🤓
krill issue
kinda just played a rat build w/ rime arrow
not so shrimple now
I just had another win tonight after raid
🦐
Fire whirl/Earthbreaker/fae/shield
earthbreaker seems so mid
Requires setup
unless u got like something to get in rly fast or root them
when somebody wanted the smoke i just hit em with the
It’s really good with chains which I used most of the game
Then swapped to fae with only a few left
yea maybe chain works cool too but i feel most of that shit is just negated by a nice fae or blink
payoff good but harder to make use of it
chains is only good if u want the smoke
Fae is still stupid strong post nerf
i feel like u dont want the smoke til like level 7
You probably use it wrong
Most people do
chains dont keep u alive, chains helps u make other people unalive
id rather have double stuns or double shields than chains
you go triple-quad movement or bust
earthbreaker super goated for 100-0 combos in duos
stun + earthbreaker while ur buddy just deletes their health bar
Man getting 700 something plunder for a 6th places feels so bad
Had 4 separate people run into the storm just to deny loot
huh i got like 1500 for 5th
you gotta scoot & loot
ye filthy dog
Yeah idk what happened that game, last couple have been sub 1000 for top 5-10, meanwhile I went back to back with a 2400 and 3100 before that
I think it's just a git gud angle
pretty sure its because a lot of people run into storm which in turn makes even lategame kills not give that much
New plunder meta, if I can't get out of this grind, neither can you
i've resorted to aiming for 500 and then suiciding 🤷♀️
thats my secret
1 win and 2 second places in my few games tonight get me 1200-1800
imma just drop, farm for 2 mins and go die
i despise it, but clearly not enough to not grind it
dang im happy we managed to reclear tindy and fyrakk after a week break from our first fyrakk kill. truly gaming. our final fyrakk pull of the night lol
My guild is special we rekilled Tswift in 4 pull this week and then spent 3 hours on Fyrakk
we spent more time on smolderon than fyrakk
when last week it was the opposite and killed Fyrakk in under 5 and spent most of the week on Tswift
unfortunately my fyrakk parse was awful because I died to first bait and then got stuck for an entire ad phase in a cage LOL
my guild got smoldy down to 13% and then everyone got bored and quit for the season feelsbadman

Not specifically Fury related, but is Ret that higher on DPS than Fury?
yes Pink class does more dmg
vault on tuesday
i dont even know if i want a mgiht
😭
Why is Ocean bad?
Even for M+?
i dont really know what those trinkets even do ngl
theyre pretty rare
like if i was in a prog position rn i could ge tit
but tier is over so
this is normal amirdasal
augury almost beats it and cata beats
Augury is insane
yeah i belive it
believe*
just stating what my sims say, so even on normal its better
i believe lfr is better than mythic 17 track
483
but yeah if i dont get one of those raid trinkets id deff be happy with a 489 might lmao
be the reason someone gets benched bro
im just undergeared rn
ive seen almost all of p2
like i know the fight
i just dont got good gear
vs 488 ppl
they will hjave it either this week or next
but yeah
i mnot only missing 5 il, im missing bis gear
legendary, wep, sockets, trinekts
good
those last 5 ilvls are huge too
in terms of finding ppl
yeah those last 5 ils i dont know why
give so much
they always have and it always surprises me
Well it's all multiplicative right
yeah that makes sense ngl
yeah ok true
theyve been very understanding
i think i said how i was just kinda thrown into mythic fyrak without seeing any other boss and i did well
well meaning didnt die, messed up minimally
and did better than tank dps
without raiding melee ever, or seeing any opfg amirdasal
id say im doing well, but rn im doing super well bc i got more comfy
but sadly i dont comapre to ppl with 488 and full gear rn so im backup
mechanics are very eawsy tho
but mechanics were always my strongh suit
hopefully your guild doesnt get roster bossed after they kill it
Yeah, the only thing that catches me off guard are the lines, but that's a small hurdle
its fine, as long as i got a spot
lines for hitting adds?
bc those barely do dmg
only if u take 2+
but 1 is free
hitting the adds with them can be aids tho
but thats why u just kinda fuck off when u get them, or pre move
OR, if ppl assasinate u that can be aids too
but warriors are giga tanky rn
u can take dmg and be 100% fine provided u are doing it for a reason
not during super healing intensive parts obviously but like
its new to me platying a class so tanky
Nah I just got the reaction time of an elderly chihuahua so it bugs me whenever I eat dumb aoe
ah ok fair
like i said im really good at mechs, i need to focus on dmg rn
gifted at mechs actually
but improving on melee is something i really want to do
Hows the rotation going with a bit of practice altering the spell queue?
its pretty good, but cant really tell that well bc of ive just been doing thrones
i do like 400k st some bosses dpeening on 18s
it just depends on group, if i have to tank etc
Anyone else enjoy playing monk?
As long as you're doing something it'll help drive the muscle memory in
some tanks are so bad ( uinderstandably) i have to tank sometimes
yeah
i actually am doing 400 spell queueing rn
i didnt realize it set it to 400 after my first dungeon
thats some nerd shit
bruh I had my first good pug tank of the season like an hour ago, it was beautiful
i dont mind bad players too be clear
i jsut hate getting 5t aspects
i dont care if we wipe
just getting 5 aspects feels troll
but yeah having a good tank feels so good
its crazy
True, plus murphys law makes it so you needed 6 for your next upgrade whenever you fail a dungeon
This guy like 4 pulled rise, surprisingly bad DPS tho
i want the trinket so i can start playing my pally more
i dont need aspects anymore i believe
so it feels bad
Had Sora tank my group last night, did like 150k overall with full mythic fyrakk gear while pulling 2 mobs at a time, then this DH pulls 10+ mobs and caps out at 140 overall
my worldview was spun upside down
Well same for prot but fr
fr fr
just came back after a season break, i lowkey love the branch trinket
i got it because i didn't have anything better but didnt know it was this good esp in m+
didn't expect much
oh yeah, it doesn't sim the highest but it's nonetheless a very solid trinket
It's fun
The slow can be a bit annoying sometimes
Guys
In your opinion
What is the closest class/spec that is closest to fury warrior
In my opinion i think it's outlaw rouge
in what way
Gameplay
pong
Is arms performing better than fury in m+ now?
Looking around there seems to be different opinions
I don't see the as similar other than BF and WW doing kind of the same thing
tbh idk If I can come up with something similiar to fury
Ret is pretty easy to play like Fury
I would say ret is kinda similar because it's simple and very upfront damage during cds
BFA demon hunter was very similar to fury
And very tanky
Yeah
current DF dh is a lot of fun but not similiar to fury at all
No takes on arms vs fury in m+?
I hate DF demon hunter
both are good play what u want Arms does more dmg Fury much tankier
Personally don't know much about arms this season. Other than it pulls ahead in big aoe
Arms is also way squishier like frozen said
Imagine a sponge
you have to put a lot more effort into staying alive as arms than you do as fury
but Arms is still a pretty tanky spec
@warm crag
first good cook ive ever seen you have
yeah it's a little late


I know you're memeing but what's the highest key you've done
arms isnt squishy its just not top 5 tankiest specs in the game lmfao

Did 3k this season and i dont even know why
yeah but after you play fury for a while try swapping from to arms in higher keys it's squishy
fury can almost natty live everything in 28+
arms cannot
Its because you get complacent taking hit you shouldnt or can avoid
hence my statement of you need to put more effort into being tanky as arms compared to fury but its still a tanky spec
?
oh yeah the aoe from yazma
unfair to compare to fury tho, spec is stupidly tanky
People are so used to natty DR and extra stam
They forgor to use defensive accordingly
at this point in farm whenever I feel like being lazy I play fury whenever I wanna actually try I play arms
Wait is that even a word smh my head
Ive seen many logs of Fury player just using SR randomly
I played squishy class Hunter in legion
MM had a DR on disengage
So you had to time it absolutly right or die in keys
It was a 2 or 3 seconds DR for 12% only when disengage land
That is what squishy mean
As Arms i can survive dumb stuff because i know its coming
Just have to push buttons
^
I think
I can solo survive till 31 tyra with proper prep
as in 3 ip stacks
etc
i mean
they should yes
but make it EXACLY like arms one
refunds rage
Spender if it deals a shitton more dmg
wouldn't call this squishy @indigo quarry dont you think
yeah basically u have 2 spenders
but enrage will be an issue though
make make execute crits make next rampage free?
like the talent in legion
are you getting carried
then ya
Think my guild wanted like 455 for H
but that seemed kinda high
@flat river what class
why not little brother outlaw rogue
Without DBTS and SR too 
nah you cant count sr
but if I recall correctly soulrend was every 30-35 sec so can do dbts every 4th one
SR for giga reflect
ive gotten wracking twice in a row b4
can survive 32 tyra
with tiny bit of help
if sp would shield me before every soulrend
so ye it's not even real babysitting
your raider io says you haven't even done a 30
yes
why you keep talking about 32s
not sure what that brings to the conversation
because you said arms is squishy
which is a total cap
you brought yazma to the converstaion
comparatively i think theyre saying
warriuors are just really tanky
Compared to fury
but fury is more than arms
arms is squsihy
the person original stated u should just play arms and dodge stuff
bc arms is still tanky
however fury is very tanky
pros and cons to each idk
ideally u just reroll to a meta m,ythic pluys class
if u care about pushing
rate my monk fit
What you pushing bud
fury is pretty meta
im pushing nothing
not ultra meta but you can run the rogue meta comp
in facty
like 2 years ago
i have 70 M+ this and last week alone at 18
i dopnt give a shit about pushing keys rn, altho i will next season prob
jsut trying to gear
damn thats crazy the Obama mog go hard tho
ya fr fr
damn gender bent james bond
warrior mog
Current warrior mog
DH mog
u all are about to get mogged
idk kinda mid
prepare urselfs to be rolled
i am prepared
green doesnt go well with warrior theme
flipper dippered
not a tier set
kentucky fried chickened
pvp elite set season 1
Its the tier set with a tint
dont do this to me man
i literally dont have a mog on
its just reg gear
😭
its not bad tho but it unironically is just base gear
oh wait u know wat.. 11 pieces of it is crafted..
mage mog
see thats your real issue
a good mog is a dmg boost
you cant do good dmg if you dont have a good mog
pinkclass mog
im autistic i will believe u
real
gn

need eye bleach after the last 10 mogs i just looked at
^
you better be squaring up with your own mog
jumps on the tmog bandwagon https://www.wowhead.com/dressing-room#fM8zk0zJ89c8T8RR8p8kv8j8RT8n8RK8rd8MOd8rh8MPD8zYu8dAg8Mx5808y8R18rE8MSB8ry8MSi8ru8MPO8rG8MPZ8rI8MPU877rN2a808aVF808ENe808N1J87VQ3A808KHi808KHp808Iqi808KHw8081t387Mn0N87o
im @work so no fancy background, sorry
Rare Phil Transmog W?
Wdym rare
sick
been rocking this the last week or two
That was cuz of mythic set man
Hard set to make work
set is aight, that weapon ain't it tho

Didnt know which to use tbf
L
how much should i value avoidance? i have a 489 whitefin axe and a 483 gorehowl that gives me 5% avoidance. Should i use the gorehowl although the 489 weapon is a bit more dps?
Is fury or arms better for raids?
Avoidance is nice to have, but not mandatory imo
Fury is well tanky enough that you can live through 98% of incoming dmg if you play correctly
I prefer more damage
I‘d just go for the max dps you can get
Then you should check dps performance per boss and see which spec performs better
Considering you have the same timings/comp/tactics as the top parsers
Arms does more on non pad bosses and more to bosses but is a tiny bit harder to pull off on say smolderon
Any fight that has >2 targets at any time is a fury boss
I think
If you are equally good as fury as arms
Arms does more to boss on fyrakk and more damage in the one phase with a semi relevant dps check
Pick your poison
isn't smolderon a bit more skewed than normal coz of aug, damage amp and fatal mark?
Then maybe dont pick up another spec before you know what ur doing on one
Especially since you have very different gear for the two
Yes boss 🫡
I just started so Im just trying to get ilvl for now
Im thinking If I should try to kill Tindral or just give up and wait for next season
Guilds on my realm arent that good anyway
And I doubt I will kill it in my current one
straight fire 🥵 🥵 🥵 🔥 🔥 🔥
wish i could gouge my eyes out
Cataclysm called they want their leveling gear back
I had offer to one where they are progressing it but still idk if its worth it
Nya
Nya UwU
Classic discussion should be in #vanilla-discussion
:3
Depends really what you want and enjoy from raiding
🔥 🔥 🔥
arms players should be in arms
If you just want to prog raid hard bosses and kill them, up in ranks is the way to go
Why is the evoker main in here 
But if you just want to have fun, stay where you are now if you enjoy that guilds environment
harlequin
I'm the joker baby
bit rude innit
I'm not British, this does not hurt me
I can hurt you (r word)
what r word
I will be permanently banned
Depends what you want out of raiding. Personally I wouldnt ditch a guild mid tier unless they are about to die or it looks hopeless but if your goal is CE take the chance
no balls
real harlequin wouldn't falter
exacly
Oh
what

Gonna have that
that was not the R word
It removed like 4 *
keep classic discussion in classic
don't you just get a small ban for the R word
Not this r word
well he didn't say the R word...
Rat ?
yes
he said the word that ends with an R
yeah but a different format
binger
Not what banezor means either
he litterally typed it
as if 99% of the stuff here isnt shittalk 
ask @junior gale
or people asking for things clearly explained in wowhead guide
u wouldnt get it
you can't say that word, will offend the knights of Ni
that trap card doesnt work when youre wrong
I see why they bullied you
1 blocked message
Is mage tower significantly easier than it was in the past?
i heard some people say this version peanuts
I know pal and dks are regarded wheelchair classes with how immobile they usually are but damn is it painful to run as warrior when leap is on cd lol
movement speed from master when?
I think ret may be regarded as wheelchair because it can be braindead to play baseline
also flavour of the month so it attracts a lot of goobers
we hate pink innit
Be a Worgen and have Darkflight ez
Ew
couldnt say that better
Isnt fury braindead too kinda? we just spam two abilities this whole expansion
rb+rampage or bt+rampage xd
all the ones i did at 70 were pretty easy
maybe comparable to 7.3.x
We are also braindead
Is the next season coming out soon? I just got back into wow and out of the loop. retail seems very quiet. Everywhere I look everyone is just playing the new game mode plunderstorm
Give it 3 weeks fam
I for sure am
"several weeks"
In Legion I had 3 leaps and 310% move speed set
Why the FUCK they had to nuke that is beyond me
Farming old shit was actually fun
prob early may
RIP BEAR TARTARE
Strat UD used to take me around 2 mins back in Legion
But I guess it was game breaking to farm irrelevant content faster
Bear tartare, sephuz, triple leap shoulders…
aggr stride bro
always ask people for their silly speed items with high stat even if it wasnt plate
Yeaah aggramars stride
Fun detected

Indoor flying mount
Warm inside feelings
What
Where look back at fury article
310% baseline doesnt sound like warrior buddy susge
especially not with the shoulders over sephuz/belt
speed sets still exist though
☢️ holy toxicity
@sullen wagon do i have you beat now btw
this is childs play movespeed compared to legion
my baselines higher than it was in legion, but temporary buffs are way worse now 
I have 22% ms equipped on my pally and that feels quicc. I can't imagine 300+ lol
my baseline with exuberance on my aug was 121







