idk if thats a rework
#fury
sullen dove
but 6% nerf to overall then 6% buff to 3 abilities
my guy was upset about that one
lul
misty helm
"New glyphs have been added to transform the appearance of the recently updated Covenant abilities back to their old Covenant visuals. They can be purchased from the Covenant quartermasters."
hmmmmm
sullen dove
no longer have to roll around in mud 
junior gale
back to flash banging ppl with spear
silent burrow
It's buffs for a tier we aren't currently playing
modest condor
imagine willingly going back to flashbang spear
ember apex
I ❤️ flashbang spear
humble plover
glad coyote
interested in which trinkets will be bis this season with all these changes
silent burrow
It's season 2 tier
sullen dove
its for s4
silent burrow
which we will play in s4
tall bough
i wish they addressed the lego drop chance
sullen dove
i mean none of our dmg trinkets have been changed
its been addressed
kill heroic fyrakk 15 weeks and its yours
upper axle
Imma stay in my janky build
tall bough
ive heard horror stories of people doing that though and not getting it
silent burrow
i mean none of our dmg trinkets have been changed
icon and oce but they aren't direct damage. But they were bis for us
glad coyote
they say anything about how raid will work with fated?
sullen dove
they're probably wrong
glad coyote
icon got rekt
rigid stirrup
interested in which trinkets will be bis this season with all these changes
People were thinking stat sticks would come back but they're gutted so augury + brand still really good
sullen dove
icon and oce but they aren't direct damage. But they were bis for us
yea i mean those were cool trinks but i dont think either beats augury
second trink debateable tho
silent burrow
Brand probably won't be up there
upper axle
kill heroic fyrakk 15 weeks and its yours
If only you get accepted in lfr heroic
sullen dove
whether fat statstick or on use
humble plover
some of these could be interesting
glad coyote
maybe for raid but not for m+
sullen dove
i think some1 linked equal ilvl anvil is better than brand
silent burrow
Kill times probably going to be pretty quicc in s4 for most part, so brand value 📉
sullen dove
so u just run that if u need boss dam
rigid stirrup
I could see anvil making a comeback
modest condor
not sure about that tbh
silent burrow
anvil suffers same way brand does
rigid stirrup
Can't be bothered to take keys seriously in s4 though unless they make the dungeons enjoyable
junior gale
Brand is just better anvil
modest condor
icon didnt die lol
junior gale
in every way
frigid zealot
Brand and anvil was both solid on sims
modest condor
have you seen the stats it gives to yourself
frigid zealot
icon didnt die lol
It's dead 😦
Yeh im trolling
It's like 22%? Crit
Its fucking stupid
modest condor
idk where you're getting 22% from but it's almost 1500 rating
frigid zealot
Wut. When I checked it on raid bots it said like 3k crit
Maybe I'm tripping
Sim
Let's pray It's secretly 22%
barren dagger
Why did they fix so much ulduar? Are we getting ulduar fated?
frigid zealot
It's all time walking isn't it,
silent burrow
Last timewalking in ulduar was super super rough cause so much didn't work correctly
forest rose
tired ledge
Boring
runic violet
wait... new rotation today?
chrome plover
didnt we know that already
misty helm
wait... new rotation today?
when new season releases
forest rose
we did but it wasnt confirmed
runic violet
icic
forest rose
now it is
and no season 4 starts in a couple weeks
i guess to let people get their stuff from WoW: Fortnite
junior gale
alpha release b4 season 4
runic violet
ah basically just s1
forest rose
yep
barren dagger
They also confirmed s2 set bonus
runic violet
I do not miss some of those...
barren dagger
all stuff we already knew
forest rose
S1 with S4 fated etc
runic violet
BH... ULD...
chrome plover
wasnt s1 half the dragonflight dungeons
yea
forest rose
and the new mythic rating
misty helm
gon be weird
proper peak
Guess I gotta dust off that bloodthirst WA
proper peak
ugh
clever path
Mulgore is tilted towers
clever path
theramore bombing was justified
desert cloud
I hope kids start playing the game so i could shit on them
clever path
since its was a military position
molten wing
ngl boomers wont like this , but this game mode can actually bring zoomers into WoW
its also cool to see blizz do something different
chrome plover
problem is zoomers arent gonna buy a wow sub to play this battle royale minigame
leaden spoke
How old to become a zoomer
chrome plover
when fortnite is free
humble plover
ong
molten wing
fortnite is free but skins aren't meanwhile its the opposite here so who knows
junior gale
a BR minigame isnt just for zoomers lmao
desert cloud
Yea asmongols plays fortnite look how old he is
junior gale
its just a for fun FFA anyone can enjoy it
desert cloud
they ruined wow
molten wing
no cap on god this shit is bussin fr fr br mode lets go straight fax no printer ... 😂👌👌👌👌STRAIGHT FAX NO PRINTER 🔥 ON GOD DEADASS 😂😂😂LITTY🔥🔥
junior gale
will I touch it at all no cuz world content in retail is forever boring trash
clever path
boomers go to classic when zoomers invade retail
junior gale
pvp world content both things not worth playing in retail
but im happy for the ppl that will enjoy it
red yew
boomers go to classic when zoomers invade retail
5 hours of sleep wtf living that luxurious life
clever path
chrome plover
looks fun tbh im gonna be a plunderstorm main
silent burrow
Why you get dunked on by boomers in retail tho 🤔
runic violet
I just got 4060 RTX... I want some banging graphics.
browse steam all day without buying anything 😦
clever belfry
holy hell wc3 ref
clever path
Shoutout to sprucecrown
clever belfry
(the reforged graphics ARE ass)
ancient quiver
I'm more hyped for Battle royal then I was getting Lego
warm crag
browse steam all day without buying anything 😦
go play outer wilds
you too @clever belfry noob i will obliterate you
clever belfry
I'm more hyped for Battle royal then I was getting Lego
That sounds cool for u
clever belfry
you too <@173741974493462528> noob i will obliterate you
no i will lay on my couch for a week straight
warm crag
please do not rot i need you intact
clever belfry
i will cook many food and enter coma
warm crag
stop this immediately
warm crag
food is good
clever path
just rolled a new undead warrior
runic violet
Food buff only lasts so long these days for my fat ass
red yew
just rolled a new undead warrior
Bro that's a withered nightborne 💀
serene vessel
just rolled a new undead warrior
One of the withered is running away. Capture him before he gets lost in the tunnels.
silent burrow
We been knowing this
serene vessel
Wasn't that confirmed months ago
unreal onyx
Fury
Aberrus, the Shadowed Crucible (2) Set Bonus: Bonus damage and Critical Strike chance to Rampage increased to 12% (was 10%).
Aberrus, the Shadowed Crucible (4) Set Bonus: Bonus damage increased to 30% (was 25%) and Critical Strike chance increased to 12% (was 10%) to Bloodthirst.
basically nothing
serene vessel
I mean I'd rather s2 then any other set this xpac
chrome plover
i mean what hope is crushed
glad coyote
do you not want the buff?
chrome plover
hope that they'd buff it harder?
glad coyote
i'll take your buff than
unreal onyx
my hope of blizz realising S2 votes were botted and S3 wins
rigid stirrup
Nah s3 is bis idc
warm crag
my hope of blizz realising S2 votes were botted and S3 wins
source on bottage
chrome plover
my hope of blizz realising S2 votes were botted and S3 wins
that's called cope
not hope
rigid stirrup
I like the consistency of OF gameplay
unreal onyx
source on bottage
unnatural gain of 2k votes over 3h after days of the vote being out with no content creator putting out content for the sets and what to vote for
leaden spoke
S2 u play anger management what is not consistent in there
warm crag
p sure biz and crit both released a vid in that timeframe
chrome plover
^
unreal onyx
they uploaded vids 1 day before
rigid stirrup
I never said s2 didn't have consistency
rigid stirrup
I just like the s3 version of it
warm crag
ye both playstyles are reliant on unbridled ferocity proc spam to hit consistent timings they're both dogshit
unreal onyx
S2 is dogwater to play in raid, and that's all I really "care" for
leaden spoke
I like odyns fury but anni is badge
unreal onyx
dps loss with uptime is way bigger with s2 than s3
warm crag
s3 doesnt care anywhere near about UF as s2
i cant hit a specific of timing on fyrakk p2 unless i proc well
rigid stirrup
mickey mouse ass talent
This made me laugh irl
sullen dove
skill issue ig use crit phial
regardless like... whatever that interaction is, is 10x worse in s2
warm crag
i am and now it is your time to be shrunk into a singularity and be stored in my back pocket for the next 2 days
unreal onyx
also love having adds to live for at least 5s to have rav tick full on them
and not just once until they die
silent burrow
S2 is dogwater to play in raid, and that's all I really "care" for
Hope you like arms
serene vessel
Literally every tier kinda boring and cringe gameplay for fury, but s2 was the least boring
ionic dirge
When is season 4 ? Is there release date ?
warm crag
you cannot escape
unreal onyx
Hope you like arms
no, I think I will just get 3k io and call it quits tbh
I still need to get CE this tier since I was on vacay when my guild got it
soft orbit
mickey mouse ass talent
unreal onyx
and now a priest is next in line for CE
balmy shore
i like s2 :3
unreal onyx
then I gotta get it
clever escarp
summing up s3 sucks glory to s2
runic violet
I like the S2 style best
chrome plover
I enjoyed all 3
unreal onyx
I just don't wanna play AM
chrome plover
I just wanna press my buttons
sullen dove
am/uf cringe raid talent
runic violet
I don't like S3 so much, I'm running arms this season
soft orbit
prayge fury ww reword
unreal onyx
makes it a real big button to press
sullen dove
98% reck uptime or feel like a fucking loser
silent burrow
I just don't wanna play AM
I mean, even s3 has cdr shit to it
sullen dove
on 1 ability and not your entire rotational existence
unreal onyx
yes, but it's not as impactful as reck+rav cdr
true sapphire
all tiers suck
This. Every time I got 4p I kinda hated it until I developed stockholme syndrome towards it.
clever escarp
glory to am
serene vessel
My only complaint about s2 was how bad it feels when you lose uptime on bosses
warm crag
die am
silent burrow
True
warm crag
die signet
unreal onyx
am can die
runic violet
s2 was great. just rampage spamming except u get 100% bt crit
simple button smashing.. the kind i like
sinful spoke
people voted s2 for these dogshit buffs
shy knot
I liked the KACHING tier
sinful spoke
cant wait to do 0 dmg next patch 💀
silent burrow
having to slam and shit in ST... absolutely miss me with that
clever escarp
people voted s2 to have fun gameplay instead of cancer
unreal onyx
having to slam and shit in ST... absolutely miss me with that
hates slam but wants RB
sullen dove
I HAVE TO SLAM 
KILL ME NOW
sinful spoke
s2 wasnt fun
clever escarp
hates slam but wants RB
every day
silent burrow
rb feel much better to press than slam
silent burrow
Yeah I'll probably just arms in raid tbh lol
tacit abyss
S2 got no execute dmg compared to arms. This is what I liked about s3, execute(bb) was finally there for fury
unreal onyx
Arms
Vault of the Incarnates (2) Set Bonus: Bonus damage to Mortal Strike and Cleave increased to 15% (was 10%). Critical Strike chance bonus unchanged.
Vault of the Incarnates (4) Set Bonus: Bonus damage and Critical Strike chance increased to 8% (was 5%).
sullen dove
and it also had... real damage even outside of execute
fury boss dam was down horrendous
in s2
silent burrow
S2 got no execute dmg compared to arms. This is what I liked about s3, execute(b...
it's still nothing compared to arms execute tho
sinful spoke
what
unreal onyx
fury ST was shit in s2
sullen dove
not much different to now but most bosses are just more suited to bigger burst windows
sinful spoke
fury execute is currently better than arms execute no?
soft orbit
no
silent burrow
lol what
sullen dove
didnt arms get buffed few weeks ago
runic violet
arms jugggaaanaut
sullen dove
before that it was prolly on par but yea think its fair to assume its worse
arms dmg pre execute is just 
soft orbit
E X E C U T E
runic violet
plus execute buffs ms dmg
warm crag
you dont really play EP properly anymore no
dense elbow
= the good stuff
tacit abyss
I dont have the numbers, but you feel your dmg increasing greatly under 35% climbimg meters. Not in s2 though. We were mostly good in encounters with aoe, like sarkareth. But pure st was lackluster
fleet cargo
yooooo .. omg i like thiss 😂😂
dense elbow
Fury climbs during the 35%, pretty good
fleet cargo
Haha
sullen dove
and on icyveins
sinful spoke
the...
serene vessel
u can tell hes a boomer too
Can you talk tho? You're a weeb
dense elbow
whats sof unny
😹 😹 😹
sinful spoke
old ahh man detected
sinful spoke
Can you talk tho? You're a weeb
oh my god this guy watches anime
rigid stirrup
At least season 2 set would feel better in the other raids that aren't abberus. I feel if you swapped season 2 and season 3 tier sets those raids would've felt a lot better for fury
soft orbit
Can you talk tho? You're a weeb
im a weeb too 😡
silent burrow
Number 1 fury vs number 1 arms on fyrakk in execute.
sullen dove
At least season 2 set would feel better in the other raids that aren't abberus. ...
HUH
silent burrow
Jussayin lol
sullen dove
s3 tier is the best in literally every raid
minus maybe broodkeeper
imagine echo of nelth adds
sinful spoke
Number 1 fury vs number 1 arms on fyrakk in execute.
sullen dove
insta killed with odyns fury
rigid stirrup
As far as the feel of it during prog
sullen dove
insstead of "oo ravager just kinda is spinnin a lil bit"
runic violet
Man.. .3M fatal mark
rigid stirrup
Ravager with the abb fight designs were ass
runic violet
nice
sinful spoke
serene vessel
Ravager is based
sullen dove
i mean it'd be just as bad in amirdrassil
ravager not doing fuckin anything to tindral roots
or igira spears
sinful spoke
OMG
unreal onyx
insstead of "oo ravager just kinda is spinnin a lil bit"
hope rav hits more than two times
sullen dove
also true
dense elbow
Ravager does what ravager does, gotta respect it - be where you want it, or chasing a critter in narnia.
sullen dove
enjoy getting stuck rooted on tindral
clever escarp
okey
sullen dove
s2 voters 🤡 shoes
unreal onyx
WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM
doesn't rav/reck also activate avatar?
misty helm
clever escarp
everything rather than s3
sullen dove
doesn't rav/reck also activate avatar?
silence
serene vessel
<:deadge:900279927138578432>
What's her @
sullen dove
stop making sense
sinful spoke
aye man i forgot about s2 thats how much i hate that set
errant vessel
doesn't rav/reck also activate avatar?
Ye but it’s bugged
runic violet
Yea what's her IG
sullen dove
i think that can also work but reck gives u a lot more avatar so idk if timings line up weird and you only extend avatar and dont reapply
u might not clear
sullen dove
remove avatar buff
sinful spoke
all im saying is
unreal onyx
warm crag
s2 voters 🤡 shoes
you are shrinking
sinful spoke
i will miss OF
sullen dove
you are shrinking
infinitesimal
wary fjord
play gnome
runic violet
OnlyFans
wary fjord
sinful spoke
i hate ravager
dense elbow
Same, I will miss OF too 
sullen dove
of is just greater than ravager every day of the week
sinful spoke
and im happy we get bladestorm back next expac
sullen dove
thank god ravager is gone in prepatch
clever escarp
fuck OF
red berry
just use OF over onslaught
serene vessel
of is just greater than ravager every day of the week
clever path
and im happy we get bladestorm back next expac
bs is the one replacing ravager?
dense elbow
Just eat the casual -12-20% damage loss from taking OF over OS :v
runic violet
ravager isn't great but its ok with anger management
serene vessel
I'd much rather have ravager over bladestorm
sinful spoke
i dont
red berry
Just eat the casual -12-20% damage loss from taking OF over OS :v
god forbid you care in season 4. that said, it’ll be better in raw AoE anyway
dense elbow
Not really, no, but better burst
serene vessel
Stunning yourself is not cool
clever escarp
mountain thane hero talent has interactions with ravager but there is no OF interactions
sinful spoke
i rather have the burst
leaden spoke
I mean if u raiding in s4
serene vessel
I love when my spells stun me
dense elbow
you mean iceblock?
unreal onyx
that's what the lego is for
sinful spoke
I love when my spells stun me
💀 ?
runic violet
What's raiding in s4. all 3 raid open for business?
errant vessel
Just know that there’s an alternate reality where OF has a 1.5m cd and its cd is decreased by 4 sec per Rampage cast
serene vessel
you mean iceblock?
Imagine playing mage and not grabbing the ice vlock talent
clever escarp
Just know that there’s an alternate reality where OF has a 1.5m cd and its cd is...
the cringe reality
unreal onyx
What's raiding in s4. all 3 raid open for business?
first week s1, 2nd s2, 3rd s3 then again and then again and then all open at the same time
errant vessel
the cringe reality
The based reality
unreal onyx
I would guess
sullen dove
Just know that there’s an alternate reality where OF has a 1.5m cd and its cd is...
good thing thats not reality
errant vessel
That along with deterministic Recklessness procs
sinful spoke
Bladestorm prevents you from pressing abilities. That's cringe
bladestorm is an ability
clever path
Bladestorm prevents you from pressing abilities. That's cringe
stun and pummel
sinful spoke
that u press
runic violet
first week s1, 2nd s2, 3rd s3 then again and then again and then all open at the...
shit confusing... but meh
dense elbow
And lasts what, 1 global?
sullen dove
"guys pressing breath of eons on evoker prevents me from pressing other buttons help"
serene vessel
Yeah and then you take your hands off the keyboard for 5 seconds
dense elbow
Ye, BS is hasted :v
serene vessel
Let jesus take the wheek
sinful spoke
"guys pressing breath of eons on evoker prevents me from pressing other buttons ...
omg pressing fire breath prevents me from pressing other buttons
unreal onyx
shit confusing... but meh
one week for each raid for 3 cycles and then all are open
errant vessel
no CDR bullshit
Didn’t you vote S2 tier set? 😡😡😡
unreal onyx
I think that's how it worked in SL
serene vessel
omg pressing fire breath prevents me from pressing other buttons
Also a cringe class
runic violet
I mean it's not confusing.. but it'd be confusing if i didn't know
dense elbow
Didn’t you vote S2 tier set? 😡😡😡
I voted S1 
sullen dove
oh no there are other ability types than just hit button once does damage once in the game? NO. I DONT WANT VARIETY
STOP.
serene vessel
Bladestorm is cringe I was happy they moved away from it
sullen dove
serene vessel
oh no there are other ability types than just hit button once does damage once i...
Channeled abilities are cringe
serene vessel
Kiss me homo
dense elbow
sullen dove
channeled abilities are only bad if you dont feel like an absolute gigachad pressing them
like fists of fury
looks cool as shit
debateable if it does enough dmg
but that ability is "fun" to press
same with bs
dense elbow
Does tons in PvP, just sayin'
sullen dove
its fun if it does large damage
dense elbow
^
sullen dove
if its not its kind of a waste of time sure
serene vessel
I turn damage numbers off
sullen dove
which will only feel weird in raid/st tbh
dense elbow
Remove hurricane and hurricane Jr, make BS great again!
rigid stirrup
My dreams come true
serene vessel
Channeled ability. Cringe
leaden spoke
Pretty sure bs is capped
warm crag
but like 0 way anyone thinks BS isnt top tier in m+
you are still shrinking
sullen dove
o imight be idk
gilded pawn
its soft 8
sullen dove
theres like 50 abilities that teeter the line of "only hit 8" or "full damage to 8 and less to more targets"
gilded pawn
most things in the game are soft capped now since shadowlands
dense elbow
hard 18 or 20?
clever path
Yeah and then you take your hands off the keyboard for 5 seconds
Imagine being able to go ravager and bs and just using them on a huge pack
gilded pawn
theres like 50 abilities that teeter the line of "only hit 8" or "full damage to...
true hard 8 barely exists
serene vessel
@covert blaze please preach the gospel. Bladestorm is cringe
sullen dove
idgaf about damage reduced
rigid stirrup
That's double our cap now so as far as I'm concerned we're uncapped
gilded pawn
but the damage reduced post 8 is quite sharp
errant vessel
The world if OF replaced Ravager on a 1.5m cd and Recklessness procs happened deterministically:
sinful spoke
and hating it
warm crag
ok but why did you pick warrior if you think bladestorm is cringe
dense elbow
complaining about the signature warrior ability
You mean Roar? :v
sinful spoke
bladestorm is what i liked about warrior the most
its the reason i picked warrior when i first started in legionm
serene vessel
ok but why did you pick warrior if you think bladestorm is cringe
Because they moved away from bladestorm on fury
sullen dove
The world if OF replaced Ravager on a 1.5m cd and Recklessness procs happened de...
more like if the cdr aspect wasnt solely revolving around spending rage
serene vessel
its the reason i picked warrior when i first started in legionm
K I started in vanilla, bladestorm wasn't a thing
sinful spoke
Because they moved away from bladestorm on fury
well time for u to go back to ur old class
sullen dove
any ability can be any cooldown so long as it does the requisite amount of damage
rigid stirrup
Tbh the fact we don't get mirror images is kinds cringe
warm crag
ye its a shit design decision they made as a result of how severely they fucked up with signet
sullen dove
but if you get that ability back faster by spending a resource that you can variably change how fast you get back that resource with buffs
holy cringe
errant vessel
more like if the cdr aspect wasnt solely revolving around spending rage
It’s fine as long as we’re one of the best specs on high uptime encounters
dense elbow
any ability can be any cooldown so long as it does the requisite amount of damag...
Once you throw CDR in there, the max-burst it can do is reduced - to balance it. No me likey
I like big boom boom
sullen dove
like of reduced by bt crits is so much less oppressive
you either crit the bt or you dont, and theres even some "blp" to make that happen
errant vessel
Consistent dmg > burst
sullen dove
"consistent"
dense elbow
Burst = king
sullen dove
try "consistent" dmg on smolderon
warm crag
Consistent dmg > burst
????????????
sullen dove
we're gonna be ass on that fight
runic violet
I don't even bother eating dmg pie for short burst aoe.
sinful spoke
Consistent dmg > burst
u mean consistently hitting like a wet noodle
?
cuz idk about u
gilded pawn
if two specs sim the same over 5 minutes, you want the one with a higher burst
clever path
really wish they gave us the old PTR S2 tier set again, multiple targets getting crit from rampages and on each target is one stack
sinful spoke
but i feel like the warrior class should do big hits
and i like big hits
s2 isnt big hits
dense elbow
We all do
sinful spoke
s2 is a lot of little hits and one occasional medium hit
errant vessel
u mean consistently hitting like a wet noodle
No I mean consistently high damage 😎
sinful spoke
LOL
serene vessel
Bring back fury wild strike
clever escarp
s3 is cringe ass cancer gaming
runic violet
Remember... we are going to have higher secondary stats
dense elbow
Cute, pray there is no downtime at all - or your consistent damage suddenly turns into 0 damage
sinful spoke
imagine s2 set on tindral
runic violet
with S2... that's a lot of damn rampaging
warm crag
really saw a lot of outlaw this tier
dense elbow
Ravager pad gonna be decent
warm crag
with their super high consistent damage
sinful spoke
oomg imagine on fyrakk
clever belfry
flat profile bad
sinful spoke
u throw down ravager
clever escarp
s2 with tindral makes me happy cuz no s3
sinful spoke
on the adds
serene vessel
really saw a lot of outlaw this tier
Isn't outlaw in the #1 m+ comp
warm crag
Isn't outlaw in the #1 m+ comp
who cares about m+
dense elbow
Ravager gonna rav
sullen dove
s2 with tindral makes me happy cuz no s3
as we're objectively 5x worse on tindral with s2 set
than s3 set
out of your mind
clever belfry
Isn't outlaw in the #1 m+ comp
no it isn't
slim coral
Can’t wait to own you all in this new br
runic violet
I only care about M+
sullen dove
roots die in .2 seconds
serene vessel
who cares about m+
M+ only content that matters
runic violet
raid is heroic only lol
sinful spoke
Can’t wait to own you all in this new br
nuh uh
warm crag
mickey mouse content
runic violet
quack
rigid stirrup
but i feel like the warrior class should do big hits
This goes hard
clever escarp
as we're objectively 5x worse on tindral with s2 set
yes but no anihilator and no OF so absolute win
warm crag
does goofy have a last name
sullen dove
bro is just shouting into a room and he doesnt know why
warm crag
or is it his last name
sullen dove
what do you even mean
slim coral
Can’t wait to be polyd for a full minute in the battle royale
runic violet
I wish SMF was great 😦 all them transmogs... wasted
sullen dove
im telling you why of is better than ravager
by a mile
anni is more cringe thats reasonable
sinful spoke
Can’t wait to be polyd for a full minute in the battle royale
u better not run into me boy
wary fjord
sinful spoke
💀
slim coral
I’m going after swordfish first
dense elbow
Cant kill Swordfish, your ravager going to chase a krill - while Swordish blasts with OF!
sinful spoke
we dropping mines
sullen dove
so real
sinful spoke
Cant kill Swordfish, your ravager going to chase a krill - while Swordish blasts...
real
clever escarp
bro is just shouting into a room and he doesnt know why
yes you are right my hate for s3 gameplay took control over me and its very cringe of me. OF is better i know i am dumb i am warrior after all
slim coral
we dropping tilted
I’m going moisty more
sinful spoke
yes you are right my hate for s3 gameplay took control over me and its very crin...
as long as u know
good boy
sullen dove
?
sinful spoke
?
clever escarp
UwU
dense elbow
They are all good boys?
indigo arch
Cant wait for s2 set again, cds every pack
sinful spoke
errant vessel
What do you guys think needs to be done to fix ST on fury 2 set? (Besides put me in charge of all future design decisions)
sinful spoke
why u callin him good boy
are u jealous swordfish
dense elbow
^
sinful spoke
do u wanna be called good boy too?
sullen dove
indigo arch
Reck+ravager is more than an OF between cd windows
clever escarp
it was called OF
no thats a lie sadly
indigo arch
By a margin
wary fjord
people forgetting how our survivability also taking a hit
sullen dove
it is in m+
sinful spoke
What do you guys think needs to be done to fix ST on fury 2 set? (Besides put me...
make rampage do 50% extra dmg
bitter palm
it was called OF
insane cd
wary fjord
not spamming BB/BT every other gcd
clever belfry
people forgetting how our survivability also taking a hit
oh no, now our leech only doing 15% instead of 70% overhealing
dense elbow
Reck+ravager is more than an OF between cd windows
Rav/Reck with AM was reduced to around 20-30sec, OF is reduced to 15-25sec, I am confused
warm crag
people forgetting how our survivability also taking a hit
you're saying this as if fury isn't indestructible even if you take all of that away
bitter palm
oh no, now our leech only doing 15% instead of 70% overhealing
no u cant say that
!!!
clever belfry
During ER you're still free to send multiple Bloodthirst to heal
sullen dove
rav/reck is without a doubt more dmg than a single of
wary fjord
i want more indestructible
clever belfry
yeah youll lose damage
sullen dove
in m+
clever belfry
but who cares
wary fjord
to assert even more dominance
lost saffron
UNZERSTÖRBAR
bitter palm
oh no, now our leech only doing 15% instead of 70% overhealing
ye but u will leech for more cause u will do more damage
wary fjord
you fool, indestructible....+1
bitter palm
warm crag
i have an unzerstörbar nick of time
dense elbow
rav/reck is without a doubt more dmg than a single of
I done the tests - If you play with Rav/AM/reck, they will do more dam than your Odyn's Fury (with the 50% boost and CDR) in keys right now
OF is fun, but really really weak all things concidered. Power comes through BT crit enabling.
wary fjord
im just gonna miss the burst at the beginning of raid pulls
bitter palm
I done the tests - If you play with Rav/AM/reck, they will do more dam than your...
and that power doesnt even cleave 
imagine how fucked of is
wary fjord
our prio damage is taking a massive hit too
warm crag
isnt that coming like next month
bitter palm
our prio damage is taking a massive hit too
and ur overall damage is taking a leap
clever belfry
Why I ask for the 51% baseline increase
shut
lost saffron
tomorrow
sinful spoke
gonna be doing 150k st in keys
warm crag
wtf
sinful spoke
wary fjord
and ur overall damage is taking a leap
until bosses take 5 mins cause u doing no ST damage
olive wraith
We the flattest damage profile again
wary fjord
dense elbow
gonna be doing 150k st in keys
To be fair, devs said they would balance it so we dont lose ST damage, so we are still gonna do good :)
lost saffron
have you played
sinful spoke
To be fair, devs said they would balance it so we dont lose ST damage, so we are...
i mean we saw the balancing
clever belfry
u guys realise fury was a top3 st spec in s2 right
bitter palm
until bosses take 5 mins cause u doing no ST damage
XDDDDDD
lost saffron
They dont
clever belfry
in keys that is
dense elbow
i mean we saw the balancing
No? :c
lost saffron
because they do 150k st
hollow ridge
the balancing was not good enough to fix our st lmao
bitter palm
u guys realise fury was a top3 st spec in s2 right
idk seems like they didnt play or something
clever belfry
cause fury dropped NO fucking relevant talents to do aoe lol
warm crag
s2 fury sacrificed like 20 dps to go from pure st to aoe spec its great ye
dense elbow
Wait, hold up, that wasnt a joke post?
olive wraith
That’s always the case though
lost saffron
20!?
sinful spoke
lool
clever belfry
s2 fury sacrificed like 20 dps to go from pure st to aoe spec its great ye
tbf current fury doesn't sac much more
bitter palm
arms one is cracked
olive wraith
Fury doesn’t drop some dmg
sinful spoke
arms one is cracked
yessir
olive wraith
It’s arms tier boys
warm crag
tbf current fury doesn't sac much more
im willing to claim it sacrfices at least 22 dps
clever belfry
im willing to claim it sacrfices at least 22 dps
About
lost saffron
People saying its arms tier or fury tier
clever belfry
im hyped to blast in keys as arms again
glueless
fringe flame
y'all can argue back and forth about what sucks, but really, just make your stand here and now, screen shot who said who, and then mid season, check back and gloat whichever side ends up right.
clever belfry
People saying its arms tier or fury tier
when its a mage tier
runic violet
wow up yet?
clever belfry
lost saffron
im hyped to blast in keys as arms again
Youre not blasting as arms atm? Then youre doing something majorly wrong
indigo arch
Going back s2 was a W, only an L if you have carpal tunnel
sinful spoke
Youre not blasting as arms atm? Then youre doing something majorly wrong
i am
but s1 set
was fucking amazing
clever belfry
s1 set
dense elbow
Fury s1 was
sinful spoke
ARMS
olive wraith
Going back s2 was a W, only an L if you have carpal tunnel
?
sinful spoke
GUYS
clever belfry
is not that good
sinful spoke
ARMS
bitter palm
s1 set my favorite
sinful spoke
NOT FURY
clever belfry
Yes, it's not that good
dense elbow
Fury was good s1
wary fjord
I was praying they increase the crit bonus to 15% at least
dense elbow
leaden spoke
S1 fury
dense elbow
^
bitter palm
i wanted to see how they would balance S1 if it got voted
execute aura buff
wary fjord
true
bitter palm
gameplay wise
dense elbow
S1 got buffed 250%
bitter palm
it was
lost saffron
Bruh is mental
glad coyote
bro fuck numbers
numbers are all we care about so we can trash on the lower deeps
bitter palm
then u are on the wrong class bud
dense elbow
I hate that he aint wrong
glad coyote
i top charts idk about you
wary fjord
he isnt wrong
bitter palm
i top meters too against shitters
sinful spoke
bitter palm
then i play with my ret friend and its not fun at all as fury in m+
as arms its fine
clever belfry
sinful spoke
u should see my numbers from last nights boost
bitter palm
i lose a bit in aoe but win a bit in st
sinful spoke
i was giga pumping
lost saffron
then i play with my ret friend and its not fun at all as fury in m+
Then youre playing the wrong keys
glad coyote
lol
lost saffron
Just go atal 30 and you do more than ret
fallen ginkgo
serene vessel
when its a mage tier
I cant wait to play my mage next season again
nothing but instant casts
serene vessel
not this ignite cleaave cringe shit
indigo arch
Wonder if slayer hero talent will interact with ravager at all
sinful spoke
will u join their discord and leave ours?
serene vessel
im in both
sinful spoke
bummer
lost saffron
please leave here
serene vessel
no fuck u toph
serene vessel
oh lmao
wary fjord
Man, i still think they should have just said fuck it and fused all the tier sets together and made abominations
wary fjord
its fated tier, who cares if stuff is broken
lost saffron
Bruh has said more dumb shit in the past 15 minutes than ive seen the whole month
sinful spoke
close ur eyes?
clever belfry
not this ignite cleaave cringe shit
ignite spec was best spec in s2 too, cause prio is everything
sinful spoke
lol
serene vessel
ignite spec was best spec in s2 too, cause prio is everything
I think they were both pretty equal
clever belfry
Man, i still think they should have just said fuck it and fused all the tier set...
they shouldve just released all of them an let us choose on a vendor.
dense elbow
Crit just needs his legendary, and he will beat the ret!
glad coyote
they should have allowed all tier sets and tuned them all
let the people decide what to play
lost saffron
i mean 12k overall
wary fjord
they shouldve just released all of them an let us choose on a vendor.
would be neat ye
clever belfry
I think they were both pretty equal
In terms of overall? Maybe.
in terms of timing the key? Ignite was FAR superior.
lost saffron
is fine
wary fjord
tune them all to be equal
olive wraith
That sounds like a lot of work for tuning
wary fjord
would have tier set for ST and one for aoe
sinful spoke
Crit just needs his legendary, and he will beat the ret!
qrva doesnt count
bitter palm
idc about ret
wary fjord
could be neat
bitter palm
let them be strong for once
clever belfry
And if you played flamestike build within 4 levels of cap id kick you out of my group
bitter palm
entire xpac dogshit
serene vessel
In terms of overall? Maybe.
in terms of timing the key? Ignite was FAR superior.
You sure? I was just following top io keys in s2 and hit 3400 after never playing mage literaly at all
dense elbow
Agreed, let pinkies have fun
clever belfry
You sure? I was just following top io keys in s2 and hit 3400 after never playin...
Everyone played prio build, spriest carried aoe.
indigo arch
Buff dk if anything, whens the last time you've seen a dk in a key that isn't algethar and was happy to see them?
lost saffron
including gearing character
serene vessel
well yeah I coulda pushed further but i just quit because i was pooper peeved about aug
serene vessel
thats like 2 weeks of playing
lmao thats literally exactly how long i played
lost saffron
Yeh exactly
chrome plover
serene vessel
i went on vacation, came back and they randomly released augvoker, i played mage for 2 weeks then quit wow basically
barren dagger
Unholy dk pumps actually
serene vessel
delete augvoker
lost saffron
Everyone played prio build, spriest carried aoe.
playing prio build in brackenhide man
dense elbow
3.4k would be close to s2 cutoff no?
lost saffron
that was so sad
clever belfry
i went on vacation, came back and they randomly released augvoker, i played mage...
well then u didnt even see the mage iteration everyone is talking about???
dense elbow
Wasnt it like 3.5?
lost saffron
No lol
final birch
it wasnt 3500 even in na
serene vessel
well then u didnt even see the mage iteration everyone is talking about???
? i played for the 2 weeks after augvoker came out, thats when I made mage
clever belfry
"top io" keys literally went up by 3 levels after u quit
dense elbow
it wasnt 3500 even in na
Dont do NA like that, man
clever belfry
so please dont comment on meta builds
lost saffron
only 3?
serene vessel
"top io" keys literally went up by 3 levels after u quit
Oh are you talking about after they did the bump up after they did 3 rounds of nerfs?
to augvoker?
dense elbow
I rememembeh
clever belfry
they nerfed mage more than aug
lost saffron
he is missing it
bitter palm
they nerfed mage more than aug
wasnt holy pala
clever belfry
which is part of ignite taking supremacy
bitter palm
hit the hardest
wary fjord
holy pally was hit hard
lost saffron
wdym
clever belfry
Nah mage was bonked the most
lost saffron
holy pala is fine
serene vessel
they nerfed like every single part of god comp
clever belfry
None of them as hard as mage
bitter palm
Nah mage was bonked the most
ye but then buffed them again
serene vessel
spriest damage got nerfed, mage damage got nerfed, augvoker buffs got nerfed
bitter palm
cuase its the main character
serene vessel
hpal nerfs and guardian druid got their shields nerfed
clever belfry
Guardian barely got touched
bitter palm
bro
clever belfry
the nerf didn't change anything
bitter palm
no one wants to play guardian
serene vessel
yeah guardian got the weakest of them all
wary fjord
i used to like to play holy pally, now it feels like crap to play, imo
sinful spoke
🙏
bitter palm
shitass spec
wary fjord
just wish spenders felt better to press
clever belfry
(and guardian was the biggest offender of setting up that group)
serene vessel
(and guardian was the biggest offender of setting up that group)
i had been sayin this
warm crag
ye? why wouldnt you spend it asap
dense elbow
Ye, but increases every week - probably, so one dinar a week
junior gale
Guardian players catweaving in TWW
warm crag
cant wait to decide whether i upgrade fyralath or not
dense elbow
1st = Legendary upgrade token
wary fjord
i was scared that i was gonna need to choose between ashkandy and augury(if its bis this season, idk)
serene vessel
wait so you can upgrade the legendary did they confirm this?
sinful spoke
Ye, but increases every week - probably, so one dinar a week
i dont know
it doesnt say that here
wary fjord
oh no
sinful spoke
if its just one its aids
sinful spoke
cuz we use it on leggo
upbeat sentinel
OPEN THE SERVERS
sinful spoke
wait so you can upgrade the legendary did they confirm this?
100% will
thats why they buffed axe and evoker lego drop chances before s4
upbeat sentinel
Dog why the fuck would they up the droprate to 100% and bait us into paying 200k each for matts to then only have it be relevant for like 2 weeks
its 10000% being upgradeable
serene vessel
i mean thats kinda cringe if someone is just coming back to wow for s4 tho
upbeat sentinel
Or I will commit a crime
serene vessel
they have to play 13 weeks to get a legendary guarantee, right?
sinful spoke
what does that
wary fjord
ye
sinful spoke
even have to do
wary fjord
or 6
sinful spoke
with anything tho
upbeat sentinel
They'll probably upgrade the drop chance since Fyrak won't be relevant every week
bitter palm
i mean thats kinda cringe if someone is just coming back to wow for s4 tho
or for someone like me
who wants to play dk
glad coyote
i doubt the lego will be upgradable
serene vessel
with anything tho
are you braindead? I literally gave the qualifier in the statement you're responding to.
sinful spoke
are you braindead? I literally gave the qualifier in the statement you're respon...
are u?
upbeat sentinel
are you braindead? I literally gave the qualifier in the statement you're respon...
Yeah the rest of us shouldn't have to suffer just because someone came at a random time
clever belfry
upbeat sentinel
Is it fair if they come back midway through a season that I outgear them???
serene vessel
Yeah the rest of us shouldn't have to suffer just because someone came at a rand...
how is that suffering lol
bitter palm
why do you care about the gear of others
upbeat sentinel
how is that suffering lol
They baited us into paying 200k for the legendary by increasing the dropchance so heavily right before the next tier
sinful spoke
😱
upbeat sentinel
If they now do not allow the upgrade then we wasted that lmao
bitter palm
they should just let us take it with a token
wary fjord
if they dont give us lego upgrade
serene vessel
They baited us into paying 200k for the legendary by increasing the dropchance s...
you know the current tier is still going on, right?
bitter palm
alts and everything
upbeat sentinel
you know the current tier is still going on, right?
For like 2 more weeks
Big whoop
bitter palm
6 more weeks
sinful spoke
they should just let us take it with a token
it would allow us to have 2 legos
wary fjord
we need like a 8% aura buff to all 2h str specs
sinful spoke
idk if they want that
chrome plover
just let me buy legendary in in game store ty
upbeat sentinel
it would allow us to have 2 legos
It's unique equipped
sinful spoke
it isnt
bitter palm
it isnt
upbeat sentinel
O
glad coyote
welfare lego
upbeat sentinel
I couldve sworn it was
wary fjord
double lego time?
bitter palm
i know that survival was using it
sinful spoke
no
silk wharf
2 wouldnt matter, the dot doesnt stack and duplicate on uses share cooldowns. it would just be a slightly hihgher ilvl weapon
sinful spoke
u cant do the quest twice
upbeat sentinel
if u get group loot leggo
no because it drops a quest item
sinful spoke
u could
bitter palm
let me use 2 leggo
wary fjord
let me use 2 leggo
dense elbow
Uhm, well, legendary is not unique equiped - so if we could buy another one, you would have 1 good one, and one bad one - that would be replaced by something with higher ilvl
south kayak
dense elbow
Perhaps if dots wouldnt overwrite, I guess?
upbeat sentinel
There is a 0% chance that they fuck over everyone because "What about Johnny Come Lately that only came for this tier? :("
But that would be ridiculously stupid if they considered it
edgy widget
Uhm, well, legendary is not unique equiped - so if we could buy another one, you...
you're not getting two legendaries, full stop
dense elbow
wary fjord
yeah, but it would be funny
modest condor
legendary is unique now btw
wary fjord
cause we still wouldnt be op
upbeat sentinel
legendary is unique now btw
If they updated it to make it unique, 100% gonna be a way to upgrade it
no other reason to do that lmao
sinful spoke
Uhm, well, legendary is not unique equiped - so if we could buy another one, you...
i really dont know if anything could replace a 489 lego
chrome plover
There is a 0% chance that they fuck over everyone because "What about Johnny Com...
so if they added the legendary to a token vendor for fated meme tier you would feel "fucked over"?
silk wharf
I dont wanna do the math. does the 10% ->12% crit chance change lower the stacks to use count?
serene vessel
i swear every time i go into this discord my IQ goes down. If you can't see how it's problematic that people who try and start on the new tier could possibly not get the legendary (and as such discourage them from playing) I don't know what to tell you
dense elbow
i really dont know if anything could replace a 489 lego
Asscandy v2
modest condor
legendary would still be bis in offhand at current ilvl
sinful spoke
Asscandy v2
idk tbh
dense elbow
it was 3-4%?
upbeat sentinel
so if they added the legendary to a token vendor for fated meme tier you would f...
No I'd feel fucked over if they denied everyone the legendary just because someone might have to farm it
chrome plover
i swear every time i go into this discord my IQ goes down. If you can't see how ...
I love it here
upbeat sentinel
Right after we all got it on the gaurunteed drops lmao
dense elbow
Legendary is what, 2-3%?
serene vessel
I'd be willing to bet they make it so there's an even bigger catch up mechanic for hte legendary in s4
chrome plover
No I'd feel fucked over if they denied everyone the legendary just because someo...
oh right if they DIDNT make it available in fated?
upbeat sentinel
Ya
olive wraith
I dont wanna do the math. does the 10% ->12% crit chance change lower the stacks...
It probably will considering we’ll have more base crit too
upbeat sentinel
Right after jacking the drop through the roof and baiting all of us into paying for it lmao
chrome plover
I think they'll let you upgrade it, and have it be a lot easier to get
upbeat sentinel
Prob x3 to dropchance since Fyrak is only relevant 1/3 of the time next tier
chrome plover
idk if I'd say they baited you into paying for it when you could simply not buy it if gold was an issue
wary fjord
It probably will considering we’ll have more base crit too
technically, one less stack needed just from the tier
sinful spoke
Legendary is what, 2-3%?
uhm
silk wharf
the nice thing to do would be to let us keep our built up BLP we have already.
wary fjord
not talking about base crit we have
upbeat sentinel
idk if I'd say they baited you into paying for it when you could simply not buy ...
Jacking the droprate through the roof right at the end of the tier and then not having it be relevant would be kind of a bait
serene vessel
I think the proper way to do it is to simply make it 100% drop once s4 hits
then you go, do your fyrak once, get leggo
then you're on an even playing field
upbeat sentinel
Ya then use Dinar to upgrade or whatever
glad coyote
Jacking the droprate through the roof right at the end of the tier and then not ...
i truely believe they increase the drop rate cause so many people where complaining
serene vessel
12 i think
barren dagger
just make leggo upgradeable but don’t make it drop in s4. I killed fyrrak 15 times for this garbage axe
serene vessel
right before the last week
upbeat sentinel
i truely believe they increase the drop rate cause so many people where complain...
They increased the dropchance of the Evoker one at the same time
chrome plover
idk if i'd call that "right at the end of the tier" idk i havent been playing
upbeat sentinel
That heavily suggested they were going to make them relevant for the next tier
chrome plover
aint there like a month left