but its for advanced gamers only like me
#fury
brittle crow
upbeat sentinel
are roots always included when talking about "movement impairing effects"?
ik they are for Hand of Freedom
warm crag
i guess the wording is ambiguous enough to need an alpha to test it
inland flame
good players could still deadzone you tho
upbeat sentinel
na but root breaking is useful in pve too
inland flame
sure
upbeat sentinel
charge having a deadzone that isnt just "melee range" is cringe tho
inland flame
blizz prolly finds people using it for rage gen degen
brittle crow
charge having a deadzone that isnt just "melee range" is cringe tho
charge at close range should cause you to trip causing a 2 sec stun
upbeat sentinel
blizz prolly finds people using it for rage gen degen
remove the rage gen
problem solve
oblique trail
Or just keep charge as is
inland flame
honestly one of the macros I made 14 years ago that I still use is a /cast charge /cast hamstring macro so I can charge something and string it with one button
charge having a melee range would break it
oblique trail
Why would you need to have charge be a melee range ability, there's no point to the ability in that case
brittle crow
remove the rage gen
i love going into fights with 0 rage
upbeat sentinel
Why would you need to have charge be a melee range ability, there's no point to ...
I’m saying it’s inner limit should be melee range
If I am out of melee range I should be able to charge
inland flame
just give us Bloodrage back and macro it into Charge 
oblique trail
Okay but then you'd have to change, or remove, the rage from it
Otherwise you just press it on CD instead of an actual filler
inland flame
na charge is fine you prolly want to make it explicit that it is firstly a movement ability
I really enjoy Havoc and using rush and retreat for dam but I don't want to blow charge all the time for throughput as a warr
warm crag
Why would you need to have charge be a melee range ability, there's no point to ...
the button that generates 20 rage
reverse ignore pain
warm crag
banning you from my personal discord server
warm crag
damn it
indigo quarry
for the charge it should break roots too
hand of freedom say movement impairing effect too
slim coral
for the charge it should break roots too
I think it does break roots
Or rather ignore them
Hard to kno for sure
upbeat sentinel
Prob safe to assume yes until alpha
indigo quarry
i know
my uncle works at blizzard
dont forget alpha is a buggy mess
like real buggy
you arent even sure if its intentional or just not implemented
slim coral
I love bugs 
upbeat sentinel
Ya but it’s still the first look
clever belfry
the button that generates 20 rage
i will press it at 130 rage
tardy lark
you arent even sure if its intentional or just not implemented
Just leave ability wording vague enough to where you can decide if it’s a bug or a feature later 
bitter palm
always has been
indigo quarry
Bladestorm is always 4GCD
mortal rock
what class do you guys think will be top in s4 ?
young swan
🔮
valid moon
Who’s still playing the dead game? ☠️
clever belfry
secondady stats bad
unless icon gets nerfed i got some news..
young swan
smol secondary stat on stat we dont stack good
big secondary stat on stat we do stack bad
quiet geyser
Anvil and brand for long ST fights no?
modest condor
who knows
edgy widget
unless icon gets nerfed i got some news..
It will
dense bough
What talent build should I use before I get a tierset?
fast mural
season 2 skilltree
dense bough
season 2 skilltree
is there a place where I can view it. I can't find it on icyveins
sullen dove
dense bough
thanks
dense elbow
Who would use puzzlebox when you can use grieftorch
calm swallow
God I hope puzzle box isn't going to be the meta again....
inland flame
puzzle box and stormeaters are the only trinkets that scale super well for some reason
f
calm swallow
T_T I'm a warrior! Fueled with rage! I don't wanna solve a puzzle/have a cast bar to do damage!
inland flame
"i never figured out how to open the thing so i just took the 1200k str and afkd"
1200k lol, 1200. Actually problly won't even be that high in the 520+s
calm swallow
Who knows.
edgy widget
God I hope puzzle box isn't going to be the meta again....
Channel it during fyr’alath
dense elbow
calm swallow
You can pop it during the axe? O.o
edgy widget
You can channel a lot of things during - there’s a pin about it
Storm-eaters boon + axe + arms bladestorm
dense elbow
So I can channel the firebreath engineering tool, for bonus dam during the axe on-use
inland flame
the only thing more fun than a 2-3s root is adding 7s to it
sullen dove
its weird it does it during leggo cuz theres actually a castbar for leggo
when there isnt for bladestorm
so its just... 2 castbars overlapping ontop of eachother
inland flame
we're Titan's Gripping castbars now holy gigachad
fast mural
God I hope puzzle box isn't going to be the meta again....
we need to get used to the channeling gameplay next expac
serene vessel
fire mage is gonna pop off so hard in S4
they get the OP M+ tier set back
FeelsGoodMan
serene vessel
Channel it during fyr’alath
have they confirmed the legendary is gonna be ilvl buffed in s4 yet?
edgy widget
Nope
serene vessel
i didnt play slands, how did it work for the legendary bow? Like did you just get giga fucked if you didnt already have the bow and was playing hunter?
because most guilds dont wanna go back and reclear old content?
indigo quarry
the bow wasnt legendary iirc
serene vessel
the sylvanas bow was legendary
serene vessel
not disparagin you in any way here, but for some reason this is a convo I have had way too often. There's some berenstein bears thing going on with the sylvanas bow where everyone thinks it wasnt legendary
happens every time i bring it up lol
dense elbow
Prob cause the dagger and quiver wasnt?
serene vessel
oh i didnt play slands so I didnt even know those were a thing
indigo quarry
becasue who cares about hunter weapon
serene vessel
sylvanas was a chad wtf
serene vessel
nope 🙂
dense elbow
I am honestly happy for you
serene vessel
but i will always stand by the fact that both sylvanas and garrosh did nothing wrong
half cargo
Garrosh did nothing wrong
dense elbow
Garrosh did nothing wrong
half cargo
Sylvanas kinda all over the place
modest condor
garrosh did a lot of things wrong
dense elbow
Sylvanas kinda 8 different characters
modest condor
if he didnt he would still be alive right now
half cargo
And he’d do it all over again
dense elbow
if he didnt he would still be alive right now
He died, because he didn't CHEAT
modest condor
and die again?
half cargo
🫡
dense elbow
Garrosh was the only moment in SL where I went: Damn, that is the character as I remember, acting as I expect.
meager void
but sylvanas' heart was in half because of Jailer patriarchy
indigo quarry
Sylvanas lost all her braincell when Arthas killed her apparently
meager void
she is a hunter
dense elbow
Nah, she lost them when she splattered on the saronite spikes
indigo quarry
oh right she died twice
meager void
I mean, the crazy eyes are there from the start tho.
serene vessel
sylvanas was a gigachad, people didn't like her because they made a crazy dumb decision to redeem her at the end
dense elbow
The freaking cinematic of Sylvanas going "Oh, the jailer? You a bad guy?" made me just give up. Though I gave up when Sylvanas and Tyrande fought, and Tyrande just lost her boost just cause.
half cargo
but sylvanas' heart was in half because of Jailer patriarchy
Man, I’m so glad the clown that wrote that shit is no longer at Blizzard
indigo quarry
oh yeah Sylvanas plot armor was stupid
dense elbow
Jailer punishing her with a fate worse than anything else, her own soul! OooOOoooOooOoOoooOooo... Now everything I did was wrong and I regret it! Bu-fucking-hooo
indigo quarry
worst part is what they did to Arthas
half cargo
Tyrande should have decapitated her on the spot
dense elbow
yarp
half cargo
Writing 101
fast mural
Jailer punishing her with a fate worse than anything else, her own soul! OooOOoo...
redemtion arc in midnight for sure
serene vessel
the worst part was how useless they made tyrande
she was so cool
then boom irrelevant
dense elbow
Well, Malphurion is the one they threw under the buss
fast mural
didnt some higher ups tell the story writers they cant kill silvanas
and thas why we got this
half cargo
didnt some higher ups tell the story writers they cant kill silvanas
I’d believe this since she’s very marketable, but there were far better ways to do it
indigo quarry
Malfurion is on the bench 99% of the time while being the most OP char ever
dense elbow
^ Don't want him to steal your 100 parses
fast mural
I’d believe this since she’s very marketable, but there were far better ways to ...
i mean they meant to kill her off and then rewrite it realy quickly so im not surprised it turned out bad
storm rune
Has malfurion ever actually played a part in the story? Dude slept until ragnaros popped his head out again then he jumps back into the dream the moment he has a chance to
fast mural
Malfurion is on the bench 99% of the time while being the most OP char ever
now that you say it malfurion came back to be benched
meager void
hey he's tending his garden
half cargo
Has malfurion ever actually played a part in the story? Dude slept until ragnaro...
His last moment of real relevance/significance was killing Archimonde
fast mural
Has malfurion ever actually played a part in the story? Dude slept until ragnaro...
dont you remember the emerald nightmare
dense elbow
Nah, he basically just stop the catacylsm from destroying stuff and after that he was forgotten again.
Guess he too busy pruning his feathers.
meager void
TENDING his garden.
storm rune
Emerald nightmare, I just remember the questline where you're running around and his ghost keeps yelling TyRaNdE hElP mE
fast mural
he was in the raid having some dialog
indigo quarry
its Xavius taunting you
dense elbow
Dont worry, WoW will give anyone that
In between Warlock-Light Forged, death being a place and system we interact with and are befriended with. WoW lore is kinda - just don't think about it
bold osprey
Is there any info whats gonna happens with the legendary in s4? Not sure about spending money for the mats now
sullen dove
but i will always stand by the fact that both sylvanas and garrosh did nothing w...
yea burning a whole tree of people down just cuz she felt like it
nothin wrong with that
storm rune
Shadowlands didn't happen, fever dream AU AO3 bullshit
sullen dove
that was bfa
storm rune
that was bfa
Imma play the brain damage card one more time then shut up before I say anything else dumb 😂
sullen dove
dense elbow
Pretty sure the legendary is worth it, even at current ilvl, as an offhand
dense elbow
it is already at the point where you kinda dont want to press it, so yea
It crits, you gained, it doesn't, you go neutral-ish
indigo arch
Wonder when warrior will get a "tuning patch" like ret did
can't have a spec with no utility do damage appropriate for a spec with none of said utility, can we?
dense elbow
Something something, warrior is close to the same utilitywise, something, more tanky, something something simplicity of play, something something reflect
bold bluff
Leggo drop chance increase was our tuning patch :/
tulip swallow
They've never balanced around utility, it would be pretty obvious if they did
the only exception being aug, and that's only because people were fucking pissed
indigo quarry
the only exception being aug, and that's only because people were fucking pissed
its because they were broken as fuck allo ?
tulip swallow
They were, and even though they're purposefully tuned to be bottom dps in the game they're still super playable
ruby tundra
I just did a m+ how do I post a log ?
inland flame
🤔
tardy lark
indigo quarry
sonic magnet
i wonder what ilvl normal weaposn will out dps orange stick
upbeat sentinel
i wonder what ilvl normal weaposn will out dps orange stick <:critcake:984549832...
Probably 510
Doubt effect is worth 14 weapon ilvls
indigo quarry
you can check this with a gear compare
upbeat sentinel
You can create fake weps?
young swan
you can change their ilvl
upbeat sentinel
So just jack a gnarlroot crusher up to 510 and see ya
young swan
yer
inland flame
hopefully we just get to spend our first dinar to up it anyway
idk if they said anything about that yet
upbeat sentinel
Hopefully the upgraded version (assuming we get to upgrade) will carry us through most of the leveling next xpac
left perch
spending a dinar on it would absolutely suck
upbeat sentinel
The alternative is making us refarm or do another quest line
upbeat sentinel
Both of which also suck
olive wraith
I assume augury is still gonna be “bis”
left perch
we should get an upgrade, and 3 dinar like everyone else
upbeat sentinel
That would just make Aug and str users gods
left perch
the fuck is the point of “legendary” lol
left perch
idk I got jaith, gavel, and that weird trinket last time
not ows
the multi use one
that I kept messing up
upbeat sentinel
So if upgrade doesn’t cost a dinar we’d get lege, offhand, two trunks
inland flame
Jaith Gavel and Old Warrior's Soul I think
eternal sundial
that I kept messing up
scars based
keen kindle
Yeah that's what we went for last time
left perch
scars based
ye I was so bad at the last use lmao
deep copper
Hi all, i'm a new War Fury player and i need a good video for talents and rota to follow, any suggestion please ?
eternal sundial
I suggest refering to a written guide
videos get outdated super easily and cant just be edited
cold jolt
im rdy to own
deep copper
So it's better to follow wow head rotation ?
cold jolt
who wantsd to do heroic fyrak
upbeat sentinel
So it's better to follow wow head rotation ?
Yes
eternal sundial
So it's better to follow wow head rotation ?
wowhead is the gold standard for class guides ye
upbeat sentinel
Archim wrote that one and is the main information giver here too so
Same info both places
covert blaze
above 100k dps
That is a very low bar
deep copper
okey, ty mates
upbeat sentinel
That is a very low bar
Not a bad one for h fyrak tho
covert blaze
That's like last patch dps
upbeat sentinel
Unless youre just trying not to see seed phase
left perch
Not a bad one for h fyrak tho
I think a 130k parse is like rank 22 grey lol
dense elbow
100k is tank ST levels
upbeat sentinel
I think a 130k parse is like rank 22 grey lol
Rank 22 greys slay h fyrak easily tho
covert blaze
Idk what groups you've been in but my condolences
dense elbow
Rank 22 greys slay h fyrak easily tho
With the help of your friendly WoWboostersUnited
covert blaze
100k is tank ST levels
fr
upbeat sentinel
With the help of your friendly WoWboostersUnited
Na greys get legit kills often
dense elbow
Nop
cold jolt
feast does
covert blaze
Feast
cold jolt
hunts do
humble plover
Flavor pocket from community feast
cold jolt
i know the weekly chests can
upbeat sentinel
Delicious flavor pocket
inland flame
Are the necklaces from the Hunts still $$$?
inland flame
When I made my bracers at the beginning of the patch it cost like 30k
covert blaze
Are the necklaces from the Hunts still $$$?
Like 20k I think
dense elbow
Hf for that 1% chance I guess, or you can just do whatever else.
upbeat sentinel
Also dinars + crafted gear is gonna jack power levels so fucking fast during fated
cold jolt
20k still
upbeat sentinel
hmm gnarlroot loses to orange stick at 510 for me
By a lot?
sonic magnet
nah
cold jolt
its not that bad of a chance
sonic magnet
100 dps
summer quail
thats margin
inland flame
I mean we can put Fyr in offhand as Fury rite Arms is a different story tho
covert blaze
@cold jolt do all dragonriding wq
upbeat sentinel
Ya it essentially matches it
storm rune
Are the necklaces from the Hunts still $$$?
like 20-30k last I bought
sonic magnet
tbh i think fyr will beat much higher ilvl weapons in practice for most players because it does its damage for free with no input 
upbeat sentinel
Fyr requires MORE input than the average weapon to do full dmg
inland flame
Myth 2/4 is 522 next patch
upbeat sentinel
Not less
inland flame
Which means 530ish prolly
young swan
528
humble plover
528 is Max I believe
inland flame
Makes sense
humble plover
Close enough
young swan
with rare/lego at 535
upbeat sentinel
Means upgraded axe should be 538ish
dense elbow
So legendary will be 565 confirmed? 
upbeat sentinel
Why not 600 for an even number
inland flame
Wonder if you'll have to raid mythic to upgrade dinar purchases to myth track
compact knot
legendary is 600 ilvl?
humble plover
Legendary 600 for sure
dense elbow
600
upbeat sentinel
Wonder if you'll have to raid mythic to upgrade dinar purchases to myth track
Kill self
dense elbow
all in agreement, make it happen
inland flame
Surely that will be different this time
storm rune
Referring back to the wow rotation guide, shouldn't exe take higher prio than ramp?
sonic magnet
you shouldnt get mythic gear without raiding mythic
covert blaze
Wonder if you'll have to raid mythic to upgrade dinar purchases to myth track
I mean ofc
upbeat sentinel
Referring back to the wow rotation guide, shouldn't exe take higher prio than ra...
No. You only exe or slam to build rage
Otherwise you do Ramp-BB-Ramp-BB
humble plover
I want mythic ilvl from lfr or I rage
young swan
Referring back to the wow rotation guide, shouldn't exe take higher prio than ra...
only if AJ is about to drop
storm rune
But exe does more damage, and unless I'm rage capping is there something I'm missing?
inland flame
It would be easy enough to make myth-track upgrade tokens drop from 10+s or something
If that even works the same way this time
upbeat sentinel
Your whole mission as fury is to pump out as many Bloobaths as humanly possible
covert blaze
But exe does more damage, and unless I'm rage capping is there something I'm mis...
bb is highest prio and you get bb from ramp
summer quail
Referring back to the wow rotation guide, shouldn't exe take higher prio than ra...
only in execute phase with ashen juggernaut
storm rune
Exe does more than BB though outside of furious bloodthirst
covert blaze
It would be easy enough to make myth-track upgrade tokens drop from 10+s or some...
Yeah you should log in on patch day and get max ilvl on every slot I think
storm rune
Or am I misreading the damage on logs
inland flame
But does not reduce the CD of OF
upbeat sentinel
Yeah you should log in on patch day and get max ilvl on every slot I think
Who cares it’s fated
inland flame
Yeah you should log in on patch day and get max ilvl on every slot I think
I'm saying the tokens you got from raid in S4 SL to upgrade your dinar items, not Aspect crests
covert blaze
Who cares it’s fated
Parsing is still there so people care
inland flame
If that's what you thought
covert blaze
No, I know what you mean
inland flame
Ah I guess I'm dumb I didn't catch what you meant then
upbeat sentinel
Parsing is still there so people care
BRB gotta parse on my 50th fyrak kill
upbeat sentinel
Highest fyrak parse is an 80 😦
covert blaze
Some people play to kill a boss once, some people play for rank 1s
storm rune
Go full heal spec and get rank 1 parses for all of LFR
That's where the real competition is
inland flame
your WoW is not responding
storm rune
memory leak?
upbeat sentinel
What fucking weakauras are you running
storm rune
dude wtf is up with your WAs
red yew
John Weakaura
vast escarp
Weird question:
In the scenario of having unpowered bloodthirst available and rampage available, is it worth hitting bloodthirst first before rampage if you won't overcap on rage due to bloodthirst being off cd by the time you're done using rampage?
upbeat sentinel
Could turn auctionater off when you aren’t doing AH stuff
serene vessel
dude wtf is up with your WAs
thats ust the atrocity pack, it's kinda bloated tbh
90% of the UI is just weakauras
cold jolt
im deleting a bunch rn
storm rune
It's nothing compared to your ui, but details should be at like 20-30 if you clear it consistently
cold jolt
clever belfry
ram usage of WAs generally doesnt fucking matter
as long as it stays semi constant
naive swallow
is trial character still a thing ?
upbeat sentinel
Is atrocity hood
clever belfry
(if its exploding something is leaking, duh)
upbeat sentinel
is trial character still a thing ?
Below like 30 ya
clever belfry
remove dogshit
cold jolt
naive swallow
boma what's ur total ram
upbeat sentinel
Is atrocity UI good
open prairie
no
upbeat sentinel
What’s a good UI pack
I just use one of the top 2 (I 4get which one) + boss specifics + a spell reflect one
open prairie
idk i still use my edited skullflower one
prob naowh?
tank uis are the worst
i swear
oblique trail
I'd argue if you were to pay for a UI, Atrocity's is the best, if not at the top
oblique trail
It has to my knowledge every spec in the game if you play alts, and typically covers anything you'd want
ruby basin
what is wrong with your system? If you have 16 gigs, you should not run at 95% when WOW takes up 5 GB
indigo arch
Something something, warrior is close to the same utilitywise, something, more t...
stun/rally vs stun+aoe incap+offheals+sac+freedom+bop+loh+affix dispel+cc for other affix
but yes, the somewhat better sustain and reflect tho, real great.
open prairie
ret is beyond easy to play
indigo arch
yea ret's about as paint by numbers as fury tbh
open prairie
you’d be surprised
cold jolt
if anyone has any suggestions for my ram
upbeat sentinel
lol
indigo arch
the most thinking I have to do as fury is swapping to low targets for empowered bts, about it really.
indigo arch
had me in the first half
open prairie
like 160k on yazma despite 3 wracking pain reflects
upbeat sentinel
When u get in a pug key and the tank only pulls 1 pack at a time
indigo arch
warrior needs bloodbath back amongst other things
red yew
had me in the first half
Was tempted to leave it at that just for ragebait 😔
storm rune
if anyone has any suggestions for my ram
You can try updating your addons if you haven't already, or verify installation integrity
open prairie
we have bloodbath
indigo arch
The actual cd bloodbath from mop
dense elbow
stun/rally vs stun+aoe incap+offheals+sac+freedom+bop+loh+affix dispel+cc for ot...
Well, it is more:
Both have ST stun, warrior got AoE stun too
Both have AoE disorient
Both have short CD interupt, but warrior have shorter CD option.
Warrior has more selfsustain, Ret have more healing potential.
Warrior have more DR, Paladin can give away DR.
So on and on, you get the deal
ruby basin
if anyone has any suggestions for my ram
first thing is to clean up wa. if that doesnt help, start removing background proces
open prairie
who talents shorter pummel cd
dense elbow
its prob something with my pc
Rightclick the weakauras symbol around your minimap, chose the "check whats up" option
upbeat sentinel
700mb chrome
dense elbow
who talents shorter pummel cd
Same ppl that take all the paladin utility diffs to warr - neither really does, but it is a point always brought up in rets favour
indigo arch
who takes fear shout
storm rune
its prob something with my pc
Actually yeah, mine is currently using 6k mb
dense elbow
I do, if needed
storm rune
Go buy another 16 gigs
ruby basin
its prob something with my pc
this might also help: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/high-ram-usage-all-of-a-sudden/1252278
summer quail
who takes fear shout
decent amount of people, it's not hard to pick up
modest condor
16gb ram in a gaming pc in 2024 is way too low
ruby basin
no it is not
cold jolt
ok i agree but something is not registering my ram or some shit
like i should be able to game with wow rn np with 16 gigs
upbeat sentinel
Ur not like maxing out your vram are you
cold jolt
how do i check that
storm rune
dude fucking hearthstone used to lag out on me with 16gigs
summer quail
like i should be able to game with wow rn np with 16 gigs
ye i have 16gb and play just fine
cold jolt
ive played for ever with 16 just fine
dense elbow
My computer I had in 2008 had 32GB, how is 16GB not low nowdays?
Anyhow, Bomani, you checked what I asked?
ruby basin
My computer I had in 2008 had 32GB, how is 16GB not low nowdays?
Anyhow, Bomani,...
because you are fine with 16gb unless you are useing 30 chrome tabs + playing wow and have cad open in the background.
indigo arch
fact remains if I am forming a group, I see a fury and a ret i'm more likely to just inv the ret
more damage/can do affixes
upbeat sentinel
16gb is still fine but 32 is kinda the standard now
indigo arch
and I fucking DESPISE knowing that I would.
upbeat sentinel
Anything over 32 is unneeded for 99.9% of uses
cold jolt
open prairie
fact remains if I am forming a group, I see a fury and a ret i'm more likely to ...
wheres the decline both if neither have the lego option
storm rune
I was always told to view ram like a battery being charged
dense elbow
Let it run a few min, then check back to it
indigo arch
I know right? Give me a WA that tells me they don't have their class tuning in the form of an axe
buff str classes remove axe
open prairie
idk if i see a str class below 485
dense elbow
How would that fix anything?
open prairie
i assume no axe
storm rune
Empty battery charges faster than one at 90% capacity, ram memory allocation being similar in nature (I'm not a CS person)
ruby basin
I was always told to view ram like a battery being charged
ram is like air, not an issue if you have enough of it, but really bad if you dont.
indigo arch
an entire stat bracket of classes hiinging on having an axe is simply dumb
open prairie
dks are just not good imo
indigo arch
hopefully next xpac they tune REAL fast to make up for axe going byebye
open prairie
i genuinely hate playing with blood dks
indigo arch
I can't think of the last time I seen a dk in a key and got excited about it
dense elbow
You can pretend that they will, but the moment we beat mage or warlock - we kicking the bucket
cold jolt
dense elbow
BDKs need to boneshatter before you pump, just hold for those 2 sec and you fine.
hasty path
most are either gamers or half afk
that's most tanks
dense elbow
More typical though, in my experience, is that I am as a BDK masspulling - and DPS start DPSing one mob in the back and running away from it... away from me
hasty path
it's just really prevalent on tanks that aren't brokenly OP like vdh
dense elbow
Just bring prot warriors, never be disapointed
Cant die, wont lose threat, just chugs on
hasty path
Cant die, wont lose threat, just chugs on
you say that
hasty path
but i've had numerous prot warriors lose aggro to me because their top damage is rend and second top is auto attacks
dense elbow
Doubt
storm rune
shield slam? why would I use that in aoe?
dense elbow
Sounds like an anti-protwarr psyops
dense elbow
Nah, you go Dstance to mitigate that huge dam spike, or ya a fool
open prairie
ok besides that
dense elbow
you thought i didnt keep receipts huh
you photoshopped that, nice try tho
hasty path
next you're gonna say my io is fake
dense elbow
It iz tho
south kayak
Next you’re gonna say my life sucks
hasty path
<:critcake:984549832511344640>
not you man my life sucks too
dense elbow
it doesn't, Box, your life is awesome, you just need to come out of yourself to see it
south kayak
it doesn't, Box, your life is awesome, you just need to come out of yourself to ...
I didn’t expect to read this today
dense elbow
south kayak
🫡
open prairie
i do feel most rets refuse to swap out
of the searing light build ever
and wonder why they do piss damage in a non heavy aoe instance
dense elbow
I play pure bonk build, and I still do 250-300k overalls as ret, topping ST
open prairie
tbh
hasty path
except as prot you still do fuck all either way 😦
sand crest
buff bladestorm
dense elbow
Fair, I play FR
so not pure bonk
Still bonk tho
Trick is to remove Divine Storm from your bars
be happy
dense elbow
Ye, if you go superham AoE, DS wins, DS wins at 3-4 targets in theory, but - TV keeps up alright up to 8, and the rest of the kit just carries what is needed
dense elbow
I dislike DS, so I take the hit, and sure I dont do 1.5mill AoE dps, only 900k, but on bosses that is caught up
ez
Priotargets gets deleted too
so win/win
open prairie
unless you are running with a coordinated group
i doubt tank will pull big enough for 1.5m
dense elbow
You usually get the whole room pull in fall, and EB flowerdance
Maybe some BRH pulls
dense elbow
Well, this week I can understand it
dense elbow
When I play on my fury warr, ppl pull 20-30 mobs all day long
but if I am anything with AoE, they refuse to pull more than 5
Game is rigged, I tell ya
storm rune
Every. Time.
dense elbow
Had a run with a VDH, HD and a Firemage, they pulled the world - then went "Warrior, where is your damage?"
hasty path
Had a run with a VDH, HD and a Firemage, they pulled the world - then went "Warr...
you walked so the fire mage could run
open prairie
uncap fyralath
dense elbow
To be fair, cant complain, overall I feel Fury catches up alright on bosses
Blizz just need to make it so tanks can only tank 5 things at a time :^)
open prairie
To be fair, cant complain, overall I feel Fury catches up alright on bosses
it does until you play with a rogue
and lose on both fronts
dense elbow
Tier S: Fury, Arms, Protection Warrior.
Community: NERF NERF NERF
we get nerfed before alpha is done.
dense elbow
and lose on both fronts
dont do me like that man
dense elbow
I wouldnt mind, if we CRUSHED our niche
like no competiton
Atm, I am pretty sure they got us beat on mass AoE and 5t ._.
No numbers to back it up, but that is how it feels, when ya do a smaller pull in BRH and DH goez zoomzoom, rogues go burrrrrrrr or paladins go FORDAHLAIGHT
dense elbow
Ok, so hear me out, 51% OF baseline buff, and a 400% on the OF DoT. Eh? Ehhh?
Saved till s2 launches
well, techincally it is s4
frank dawn
I would say I really like the niche of fury being able to cleave at very minimal single target loss. I think that’s a cool thing for a few specs to have
But our aoe still needs to be better imo
dense elbow
Wouldnt you rather have our niche cemented?
clever belfry
Ok, so hear me out, 51% OF baseline buff, and a 400% on the OF DoT. Eh? Ehhh?
S...
cease.
inland flame
If you want good consistent small-pack damage I would suggest trying FoB/Collateral Dam Arms
dense elbow
cease.
Never, I am right, and ya know it. OF is the only tool that matters, the only way to save Warrior AoE.
dense elbow
Yarp, it be one of our strengths. Think most just want us to atleast dominate the 3-5 range, if we cant dominate 1t or 6+
Failing that, ppl just want uncap, something I find a bit boring
but meh
bitter palm
Ok, so hear me out, 51% OF baseline buff, and a 400% on the OF DoT. Eh? Ehhh?
S...
and it still does no damage
compared to dh ret
now imagine
they make a tierset that contributes to our cleave
ruby tundra
Is fury good for dps pve (dungeons) I was getting out dps by the healer as well, but im undergeared
proper obsidian
Hey guys 2x Shadowflam vs 1 Sshadowflam and the braces that give Vers
dark sky
Hey guys 2x Shadowflam vs 1 Sshadowflam and the braces that give Vers
Very small dps difference in single target in favor of shadowflame, bracer better in short fights
Bracer also makes you tankier with vers
proper obsidian
Mmm okey so better off making it then thanks
eternal sundial
Is fury good for dps pve (dungeons) I was getting out dps by the healer as well...
fury will consistently beat out both tank and healer
but generally if u play well u can beat most classes in damage
inland flame
Is fury good for dps pve (dungeons) I was getting out dps by the healer as well...
Fury and Arms are both fine. Arms is ahead in dungeon damage but that all depends on gear level and what you're comfy playing.
eternal sundial
if they play as well as u thats another question...
final birch
I wouldn't go that far
Arms is definitely pretty strong but a good ret should still be always ahead
and some specs absolutely gap if you play around them (destro)
issue with destro is, you have to play around it
summer quail
they don't
eternal sundial
you just cant spend enough for tom to be good
cold jolt
Yeah
eternal sundial
tom pops off cuz of fatal mark and execute spam
kinda ass if your highest prio button doesnt cost rage
summer quail
tom prob not that bad with jugg build for m+ but majority of people in highest keys play 1bs build
edgy widget
ToM is good if you're literally pulling at breakneck speed, without downtime and without using Bladestorm; two things that aren't very common right now
IFTK gives you damage during cooldowns, which is generally the most important damage you're doing anyway (you can also game it a little bit on stuff like Spiteful)
eternal sundial
tom prob not that bad with jugg build for m+ but majority of people in highest k...
its also just cringe and less fun than a pi in execute on your cd
final birch
ToM is good if you're literally pulling at breakneck speed, without downtime and...
also overpower is your best button for aoe
which costs 0
so that's another issue
getting 13% toms in aoe
edgy widget
sure but you're using that either way
final birch
yeah but you're using op>ms in aoe
edgy widget
the point is a matter of throughput vs focused damage
ruby tundra
Fury and Arms are both fine. Arms is ahead in dungeon damage but that all depend...
Arms is better for dungeons than fury?
eternal sundial
Arms is better for dungeons than fury?
nah its equal as they have pros n cons
edgy widget
only place you'd potentially consider ToM atm is like Fervor speed Aspect farming, but even then a lot of dungeons have forced downtime that interrupts it
summer quail
Arms is better for dungeons than fury?
damage wise a bit higher, depending on dungeon. like in everbloom i've seen people go arms for first half then fury after, tbf you end up right near the entrance after first boss so makes sense there
ruby tundra
nah its equal as they have pros n cons
How do I post a damage log like in #449510248579858432
Oh I need logs
edgy widget
Arms is better for dungeons than fury?
Arms equal if not potentially a little better on the high end, though it runs into survivability issues sooner, Fury is generally better on the low-mid end, if only because it's a little more "fire and forget"
Ultimately both are pretty fine and close enough to competitive with each other everywhere
eternal sundial
Oh I need logs
ruby tundra
https://www.archon.gg/wow/articles/help/getting-started
Tysm
Should be reck > charge > rampage > OF > roar\spear > BB > rampage > avatar > BB.
Whats OF and BB
zealous condor
in aoe ye
storm rune
That's just your optimal opener for ST
If you're running Titanic rage then it'll auto apply the aoe buff and enrage you when you cast OF as if you cast rampage+whirlwind, but it's an appreciable ST damage loss to do so
ruby tundra
Ah ok ok ty
edgy widget
Keeping up the WW buff is as easy as casting WW every ~5th GCD (more or less whenever its not up), which tends to happen naturally within the rotation anyway - only time you need to think about it is during high rage moment where you'd otherwise just chain Rampage & Bloodbath
wanton grove
imagine having to press sweeping strikes every 5th global
storm rune
Imagine having to spend 2 talent points to unlock SS
storm rune
Honestly I prefer WW over SS
frank dawn
I mean they are pretty different. More targets and 100% uptime for Whirlwind
edgy widget
imagine having to press sweeping strikes every 5th global
imagine having downtime on Whirlwind 😬
fast mural
Honestly I prefer WW over SS
so SS would be fine if it would do dmg ?
wanton grove
downtime doesn't matter, arms will have significantly higher dps on 2 targets then fury ever will (possibly even 3 targets), just because fury spends 20% of time hitting a buffer so it can cleave
fast mural
homoginize all specs
wanton grove
it SHOULD be higher
and you're obviously forced to respec on specific bosses because of it
upbeat plume
In this episode of season 587 of arms vs fury....XD
summer quail
and you're obviously forced to respec on specific bosses because of it
depending on tuning
final birch
and you're obviously forced to respec on specific bosses because of it
respec for what xd
edgy widget
and you're obviously forced to respec on specific bosses because of it
forced is a bit much
final birch
arms and fury offer different things
arms boss dam, fury aoe cleave without losing much st
summer quail
and you can play fury on an "arms" boss. absolute ton of people that one trick a spec to get CE
wanton grove
forced is a bit too much, sure.. but do you really wanna be doing 30-40% less dps then what a respec provides?
final birch
you're not as much comp-locked as you might think
edgy widget
there's one real 2 target boss this tier too, and its a joke
final birch
30-40%?
where did u get that number
that's not even the case on tindral
which is bis fury boss
split coyote
Man this is rough. My brain's been numb for a while now. P2 dispels is still farming us because they're slow. At this point, I don't think we'll get world last CE before Fated patch hits.
dapper goblet
voodoo
cold jolt
bruh my rage is white
final birch
what is that proving xd
wanton grove
but point is fury player here was higher ilvl and he cant even come close to be as i'm playing arms
final birch
and he also logged lower
wanton grove
its proving that fury has 2 talents both of which are needed for aoe
summer quail
so 2 random players that logged blue is your source?
wanton grove
both talents could be combined in one
final birch
so 2 random players that logged blue is your source?
reliable
I can pull up my smoldy log where I logged orange and say arms is much better than fury that logged gray
idk
wanton grove
and you get a new 2nd talent that extends ur aoe, or buffs ur aoe, or w/e
wanton grove
I can pull up my smoldy log where I logged orange and say arms is much better th...
this was started as comparing fury vs arms aoe and their talents
final birch
mkay but you pulled up the 35-40% number and then random log on idk which boss where 2 people logged blue and you're making a comparison
deep copper
Is this a good 1 min guide ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9I-VuR3jRo
wanton grove
nah okey fam, eat up all devs shit that they throw at you, the game is perfect and arms having same talent points of 3 consecutive patches is 100% alright
bitter palm
mkay but you pulled up the 35-40% number and then random log on idk which boss w...
it wasnt 35-40 on igira before arms buffs
let alone now
final birch
xD I still dont know what you're trying to prove
summer quail
nah okey fam, eat up all devs shit that they throw at you, the game is perfect a...
??? no one is saying that's fine but you're jumping all over the place
final birch
but mmkay
edgy widget
nah okey fam, eat up all devs shit that they throw at you, the game is perfect a...
where did devs come in? lol
honestly what are you even going on about? It just looks like you're spoiling for a fight over nothing
final birch
ok I looked it up and you pulled up a council log
so you pulled up most meaningless fight this tier
edgy widget
ofc a council log, it's the only 2 target fight lol
final birch
that's very good for arms and shit for fury and you're trying to prove something
edgy widget
but literally nobody argued fury was better v 2 targets in the first place
final birch
arms' whole thing is being good in 2t and in execute
bitter palm
council relevant fight 
fast mural
ofc a council log, it's the only 2 target fight lol
but only for 50% of the time
sinful spoke
quiet swift
Hey so in new to warrior and to the game in general. My question is should i be using slam on fury warrior? I see nothing about it in the Icy Veins rotation guide but they still recommend taking the talent the buffs its damage.
slim coral
wait I gotta get in on these takes being thrown in the discord
bitter palm
wait I gotta get in on these takes being thrown in the discord
arent u the buyer guy
warm crag
are you playing s2 or s3 talents right now
bitter palm
:xdd:
slim coral
but point is fury player here was higher ilvl and he cant even come close to be ...
that fury warrior has no clue what hes doing
solemn plover
are you playing s2 or s3 talents right now
ive actually tried s1 talents the other day
deep copper
Guys, why i dont got Blood Bath spell ? I cant find it
quiet swift
are you playing s2 or s3 talents right now
I apologize for my ignorance but I dont know what that means
clever belfry
Guys, why i dont got Blood Bath spell ? I cant find it
press rampage
slim coral
Guys, why i dont got Blood Bath spell ? I cant find it
are you talented correctly
...
quiet swift
press the buttons for s3 and untick s2
oh I see sorry for the dumb question thank you
solemn plover
dw i always dm spongie questions
quiet swift
I didnt know there was seasons
solemn plover
hes really fine with that
hasty path
are you talented correctly
look just because i'm a talentless waste of oxygen doesn't mean im playing wrong
edgy widget
well that's the problem, have you tried allocating your talents?
hasty path
gleaming siren
what a funny you just made
solemn plover
what a funny you just made
im sorry
cold jolt
anyone got an 18 atal or throne they wana do
solemn plover
maybe~
cold jolt
yipee
solemn plover
oh wait i dont have a sub sorry
cold jolt
npnp
why does my rage bar go white a fter 80 rage
joever
my autism is flaring joever
slim coral
its part of atrocity ui
slim coral
been a thing for like 2 months
slim coral
yeah change it to green
vast escarp
Weird question:
In the scenario of having unpowered bloodthirst available and ra...
Still have this question
modest condor
if the bloodthirst doesnt overcap you just bloodthirst
edgy widget
yeah, there are a lot of little caveats
- won't overcap? Bloodthirst
- won't overcap much? Bloodthirst
- trying to get OF CDR? Bloodthirst
- already capping? Rampage
- OF is ready to go? Rampage
- fight about to end? Rampage
but most of the time it really doesn't matter; just push a button and you'll be fine
granite oar
Are 40k overall Damage with 430 (no Tierpieces) normal in Myth plus 😮
slim coral
I don't think you should be caring about damage at that level
granite oar
i am wondering about that, why my mate (demonhunter) on the same level make 99k
slim coral
he's uncapped
summer quail
also you're prob playing suboptimal talents
slim coral
all of this is pointless to care about anyways
bitter palm
tuning
is
wacky
af
a.t those ilvls
i was doing 150k as 440 ret but thats normal for ret
for example
ret goes from 150k at 440 to 250k at 485
granite oar
I destroy his paly with my monk, so skill level is not the point
hard widget
Its uncompareable, most likely your stats are wack at that ilvl, might not have the new set, maybe different cd useage / pulls from tank
bitter palm
y
slim coral
I don't see the point in caring about damage
summer quail
i assume you're also using current tier talents without having the tier
slim coral
at that item level
summer quail
gonna feel bad
bitter palm
I destroy his paly with my monk, so skill level is not the point
ww?
ww also has crazy tuning
on low ilvls
granite oar
yes
bitter palm
friend of mine was doing like
150k at 440 as well
we were outdpsing 470 people all the time
prob a player gap but idk
hard widget
You can't say a ret should outdmg a windwalker without knowing the keylevel, route, comp etc
granite oar
I usually beat him with any of my classes in DMG, that's why I'm surprised about the bad damage as fury
hard widget
There goes a lot of stuff into consideration of this
Besides that monk provides a 5% physical buff
summer quail
I usually beat him with any of my classes in DMG, that's why I'm surprised about...
what talents are you running?
hard widget
I usually beat him with any of my classes in DMG, that's why I'm surprised about...
That is probably because fury has a very different dps profile than a ret pally does. Our damage is way more focused on priority damage and for a ret its more revolved around aoe
summer quail
you have no tier so current talents are going to feel bad until you get 4p
granite oar
what talents are you running?
T31 Talents 😄
hard widget
ill do, 60k dps
If you dont have the new set, old build does more dmg
summer quail
ill do, 60k dps
that's 50% more than what you said earlier, good increase
granite oar
you´re right
hasty path
not the yellow from the egg
what
granite oar
a german saying ^^
hard widget
What ilvl did you say u were again @granite oar ?
hard widget
I assume ur also talking 430 ilvl?
granite oar
yeah
hard widget
It doesnt mean anything
Ur not gonna do 25-30 keys with 430 ilvl
Ur not mythic raiding with 430 ilvl
The content ur doing with 430 ilvl is not relevant for dps
granite oar
That gives me hope
hard widget
Bro ur 430 ilvl xd
granite oar
I already wanted to reroll to ww
hard widget
If u want to see what dps a class does look at some streams from top players on that class
Or youtube
Or just look at logs
summer quail
super undergeared and no tier
hard widget
And even then the dps is irrelevant because some classes have a job of aoe'ing as much as possible while others are meant to st as much as possible
summer quail
should have plenty of catalyst charges. so just turn whatever gear you can into tier
hard widget
In any case, if u want bigger aoe start learning arms. If u want more prio target with very decent 5 target aoe then play fury
granite oar
Fury sounds like my enhancer with 6 targets 😄
bitter palm
to alts and just catalyst for tier
bitter palm
Fury sounds like my enhancer with 6 targets 😄
ye except its 15x tankier
granite oar
and a little bit easier to handle
hard widget
Arms is also pretty easy
granite oar
But with more attacks, i think. I play on Gamepad for this session ... pls dont ask xD
hard widget
Ur playing on a gamepad, and ur only concern is your dps at 430?
I have so many other concerns
granite oar
Tell me !
hard widget
I would if i wasnt watching dr house
young swan
I would if i wasnt watching dr house
goated show
granite oar
The controller is already a tough decision
hard widget
goated show
Bet
young swan
love house
summer quail
I would if i wasnt watching dr house
hell yeah, also recently started rewatching house
hard widget
Yeah they put it on netflix
summer quail
yee same here in norway
hard widget
season 3 here
young swan
hell yeah, also recently started rewatching house
couldnt tell
summer quail
🙂
young swan
hard widget
Yeah the profile picture kind of a giveaway kekw
summer quail
yee, also tried to find something that i could replace handsome shart with
took a while
hard widget
Dude dw we're all practically doctors when we're done watching
granite oar
son goku is not so smart, but he´s really strong
hard widget
I hope that wasnt directed to me
summer quail
that's okay you're very smart mr DK wowhead writer
hard widget
Am i the only one confused?
summer quail
yee i have no clue what he meant by the son goku thing either
granite oar
that's okay you're very smart mr DK wowhead writer
i change my name, everybody hates me
left perch
another TC tryina get banned from skyhold?
left perch
lmao yea
hard widget
I mean are you the actual bicepspump?
Because if ur not that could be a pretty valid reason for people to hate on it
granite oar
u know the answer
hard widget
So ur not
granite oar
Biceps sounds mighty close to arms
best argument
hard widget
u know the answer
If i did i wouldnt be asking xd
meager void
I mean, correlation does not mean causation.
granite oar
i mean son goku is not so smart like house, but he is strong
the animecharakter
u know?
nova garnet
I mean, correlation does not mean causation.
Correlation means absolute fact
granite oar
its youre profil picture
cold jolt
i jsut lost a 30 min beer pong game
hard widget
i jsut lost a 30 min beer pong game
U must be drunk AF
hard widget
Unfair advantage
left perch
How do you lose
cold jolt
yeah and still lost
left perch
and be sober
left perch
delete your character
cold jolt
ff inrl
left perch
(In game)
hard widget
This is one of these things you just never talk about till people stop bullying you with it xd
clever path
skyhold at 2 am is the shit ong ong
cold jolt
fr fr pm gpd
hard widget
skyhold at 2 am is the shit ong ong
Hows the push goin sin
clever path
Hows the push goin sin
ah i got my first CE with a nice log to end the tier with i doubt i will continue to play for title
just spam brh 28s as arms for fun
hard widget
ah i got my first CE with a nice log to end the tier with i doubt i will continu...
Gratz!
I mean you are decently close were you not?
clever path
im 3650 rn ig cutoff is probably gonna be maybe 3710 3720
im really unsure with the fortified push week
clever path
maybe maybe we'll see at the end of the day its a title that will not be used nothing beats
hard widget
Yeah fair, but might as well get it now ur this close 😄
clever path
maybe a last ditch degen moment next week maybe maybe
storm rune
I'm a big fan of the alliteration
clever path
I'm a big fan of the alliteration
oo that one goes hard as well
proper obsidian
Quick question the minimum amount of hast you want is 25% right?
hard widget
Quick question the minimum amount of hast you want is 25% right?
The right answer is to always sim yourself and do what raidbots says is the best choice ^^
young swan
no
storm rune
well
storm rune
Isn't archon Scamaz?
storm rune
oh okay, just a tainted name then
proper obsidian
The right answer is to always sim yourself and do what raidbots says is the best...
Yeah sweet
young swan
yeah pretty much
storm rune
I once saw my sim bring me down to 24% haste, shattered my world view
hard widget
Only reason why u would change ur stats over what raidbots is telling you is to either gain more avoidance, or if you need more versa / different trinkets to survive