fury

[sullen dove]

but idk m+ is anyones guess whats stronger

[flat river]

overpower has 2 charges

raging blow has 2 charges

[merry pivot]

if they had it proc off of raging blow you could play auto attack build

[flat river]

why thye want us to play BT

ffs

[merry pivot]

they've cucked fury by giving it smf in the tree

[sullen dove]

cuz raging blow doesnt need more cdr than it has

[merry pivot]

🤷‍♂️

[frail trout]

Thunderclap is like one of our better spells visually and the sfx for it

[sullen dove]

not that overpower does either tbh

but meh

[frail trout]

It just doesn't do any DMG yet

[merry pivot]

yea if arms needed something it was MORE rage regen

[sullen dove]

[ancient basin]

x)

[young swan]

ive said this like 5 times today and im gonna say it again, they want bt and rb to have a more equal share in the rotation than they have in the past 2 xpacs. that means putting more value in pressing bt

[flat river]

make blood thirst and onslaught 1 ability

[regal falcon]

Why would I want to play Mountain Thane if im not a dwarf that makes no sense thematically

[flat river]

mix them

[covert blaze]

Ah yes, very impactful cdr on rampage and rb

[ancient basin]

I'm still traumatized from dumping rage every 4-5 globals on Ignore Pain in S2

[young swan]

why is thor a lightning god despite not being a dwarf

[heavy sparrow]

Bt doesn't need cdr at all though, it's cd is already super low

[merry pivot]

ignore pain arms was unironically better than arms after the ignore pain change

[heavy sparrow]

It makes even less sense to give BT cdr than blow

[pulsar prawn]

yep ^^ similar to overpower ^^

[frail trout]

Looking at existing BT we think that, maybe BT is getting changed

[sullen dove]

its cd isnt low if u dont spec into those talents

[heavy sparrow]

Op cdr is useless becuase of the proc

[pulsar prawn]

both completely useless hero talent things.. just remove

[sullen dove]

which u almost certainly wont as u need those points to get raging blow

[heavy sparrow]

Pretty much

[dapper goblet]

blizzard is stealing Muradin from heroes of the storm

[sullen dove]

its like 4-5 sec base cd

[merry pivot]

they'll get away with it too because who played hots

[frail trout]

10% is a very low reduction though I'll give it that

Even if the base CD were longer

[sullen dove]

20% if u take the choice

[covert blaze]

[young swan]

almost like theres guaranteed changes to the specs that we havent seen yet!!!

crazy!!!

[merry pivot]

[frail trout]

Yep

[covert blaze]

shill

[wild mica]

i cant wait to see how they didnt fix the class tree

[merry pivot]

they didn't change fury all expansion so we could be happy in tww

[heavy sparrow]

I have to judge what i see at the moment though

[flat river]

i swear there are 2 sides

[quiet geyser]

BT gonna hit much harder, but get a bigger CD

[flat river]

arms

[heavy sparrow]

Because i have no idea what they are gonna do in the future

[flat river]

POG LETS GOOO

fury:

fuck this

XD

[frail trout]

I hope the warrior rework is on the same level as the other melee reworks

[quiet geyser]

BT and onslaught mixed together

[young swan]

it owns tho

[flat river]

i said that

[high basin]

fury talents are a W

[young swan]

the only people who dont like it just dont like bladestorm

[heavy sparrow]

No it doesn't, it's merely average

[merry pivot]

arms and fury are both just missing their spec identities, have been all expansion. Idk how we went from Shadowlands arms and fury to DF

[young swan]

colossus is average

this is much better than colossus

like MUCH better

[modest condor]

hearing max talk about other classes where he clearly knows how they work and knowing that he knows fuck all about warrior so he's just gonna skip over half of it lol

[young swan]

slands was literally the worst design arms and fury have literally had ever

like its the very bottom

so

[static spade]

anger management + normal bladestworm+ bladestworm from recklessness is W gameplay for fury next expansion

[primal python]

wouldn't really agree with fury, its spec identify has been burst AoE for a while

[young swan]

idk what ur talking about

[merry pivot]

thats just a crazy take

[young swan]

its not

[covert blaze]

Wouldn't be surprised if for hero talents tank + dps are just worse than dps + dps (for dps specs)

[merry pivot]

how do u think df fury is better than shadowlands fury

[young swan]

its the absolute worst

[merry pivot]

or arms

lol

[young swan]

cause its just slands fury with more stuff

[regal falcon]

I always thought the spec identity of fury was mash many buttons fastly

[tidal kindle]

SL fury had bladestorm

L take

[modest condor]

in raid sure, but in m+ fury didn't really have much for burst aoe last season, most of our strength came from ravager every 30-35 seconds and having near permanent reck uptime

[quiet geyser]

Slands was poo. And warriors were quite dog shit for almost the whole expansion

[primal python]

I mean sure, dmg profile then if you will

[young swan]

u arent helping

[merry pivot]

tuning was bad for warriors but the playstyle was far better

m+ warrior is def better in df but in raid its just not close imo

[young swan]

i like having 60% enrage uptime in the first tier

[tidal kindle]

I know 💅

[merry pivot]

first tier

[tidal kindle]

DF fury > sl imo too

[primal python]

yeah meant for raid

[tidal kindle]

But I'm a signet bladestorm enjoyer

So

[merry pivot]

wtf

LOL

[tidal kindle]

🤷‍♂️

[merry pivot]

ive never heard anyone say that

[high basin]

what about spear bladestorm?

[young swan]

slands is universally the worst xpac for class design ever

its so bad

[merry pivot]

Thats just

an asmongold take

i feel

[covert blaze]

Find God

[young swan]

its just bfa but worse

[primal python]

for sure, opposite for arms tho imo

loved S2 fury

[dapper goblet]

BFA killed arms warrior

bfa worst expansion

azerite freaks

[merry pivot]

only thing you can really critique with sl warrior was that they left fury spamming ww for 3 patches

[hollow ridge]

Signet bladestorm and whrilwind spam made fury better since it made you play differently than just st rotation with whirlwind inbetween

[dapper goblet]

azerite armor freaks rather

[merry pivot]

bro what u guys actually enjoyed ww spam

[quiet geyser]

That ironically was fun though

[heavy sparrow]

I think overall dragonflight is a better version of shadowland class design, aside a few specs.

S4 shadowlands warlock was fucking glorious

[young swan]

ra slot machine casino spec

dogshit

[merry pivot]

it wasnt casino

u were just in RA the whole fight

[young swan]

it literally was

[merry pivot]

[young swan]

get sb proc outside of cd's

ur fucked

[modest condor]

you werent

[young swan]

gg

[tidal kindle]

Necrolord MBG fury was COOKIN

https://tenor.com/bjs26.gif

[young swan]

no hns procs during CB reck proc? ur fucked

[primal python]

barely going out of range so CB charged you into halondrus beam

[eternal sundial]

fuck you mean MBG
necro meatcleaver deathmaker

[high basin]

im sad we didnt get to play that

[eternal sundial]

with ra

[young swan]

literal definition of a casino spec

[merry pivot]

ok u got me it was 50% of the fight

[young swan]

if all of ur procs dont proc at the same time u do 50% less damage

poggers

[tidal kindle]

Talking keys

[ruby tundra]

is crit or strength more needed ?

[tidal kindle]

@eternal sundial I mean

[merry pivot]

I never felt like it was casino playing in sepulcher, but i did end up playing arms all of 9.2.5

and arms was casino

as fuck

[young swan]

yes

both specs

were dogshit

glad we're on the same page

[dapper goblet]

arms far worse than fury in rng

dont @ me

[modest condor]

arms was even more casino but fury was still one of the most casino

[merry pivot]

that came down just to the arms legendary

[tidal kindle]

I personally hated Condemn arc in nathria, hated EB as a whole for the entire expac, didn't play much fo SoFo and don't remember it either

[primal python]

it was extremely so, you could have reck up for an entire halondrus intermission for example, or you could have it for 1/5th of it

[merry pivot]

it wasnt really the design of the class

[tidal kindle]

Bro I had a guardian pull with

88% EB uptime

[dapper goblet]

dont get it twisted arms design was dogshit in bfa

[tidal kindle]

[dapper goblet]

just lego was also rng

so made it worse

[young swan]

they are part of the class brotherman 😭

[tidal kindle]

Next pull 13%

VERY COOL

🙂

[ruby tundra]

is crit or strength more needed ?

[young swan]

strength

[dapper goblet]

its like a turd with turd sprinkles added on top

[merry pivot]

yea but then u cant really hand wave fury getting 2 bs tier sets to get us to hit the button

[ruby tundra]

ok tysm

[merry pivot]

fury is fucked

[young swan]

we're talking about SL

[tidal kindle]

That is a bad question
Generally speaking strength but like - have no clue what else is inolved in what you're asking about

[edgy widget]

the two don't typically compete against one another anyway, outside of a few trinkets

[tidal kindle]

I imagine it's a trinket, yeah

[young swan]

i didnt say df was good, i said sl was the bottom of the barrel. theres work to be done on df fury

[sudden tusk]

I hope I proc a bs hit to keep my %dam buff rollinh

[dapper goblet]

fair enough

still bad

[merry pivot]

arms and fury should have two different roles to play in raid, and it doesn't really feel like they do

[primal python]

yeah I should say I didn't start playing warr until deep SoD farm and didn't main it before sepulcher, so my opinion is largely based around that

[merry pivot]

either fury was better or arms was better this whole expansion it felt like

[eternal sundial]

the sd heal should be all executes i need 100k self HPS on fyrakk in p3 as arms would be fair

[merry pivot]

u didnt switch depending on the situtation

[young swan]

agreed they are weird this xpac, still a lot better than sl

[eternal sundial]

look wf sark kill fury and arms saw play for their prog

[modest condor]

condemn flashbacks

[regal falcon]

In SL it always felt like Arms was the better ST and Fury was better AoE but I dont remember

[young swan]

arms specifically sucks rn

[merry pivot]

yerp

infinite rage

[tidal kindle]

Outside that instance of RWF it was just fury on prog into arms buffed .5 patch to catch up/be stronger

This whole expac

[sullen dove]

?

[eternal sundial]

yep

[tidal kindle]

Kinda

💩

[heavy sparrow]

Rng can be a good way to make the spec feel more dynamic, as long as it's not way to excessive to the point where you feel like you have no control

[ruby tundra]

yes

[eternal sundial]

fury scales with aura buffs cn moment

love 10.0

and 9.0

[tidal kindle]

Sim it brother, raidbots.com

[eternal sundial]

[tidal kindle]

👍

Best way to get accurate results

[ruby tundra]

how, sorry I just came back few days ago

[merry pivot]

feels weird making slayer execute based because its like, if they figure out arms' execute identity (bottom of the tree is dedicated to it, and bladestrorm) fury slayer is just going to be worse than arms slayer the whole expansion

[wanton obsidian]

the ONLY thing?

[modest condor]

yeah remember fury at the start of 9.0 it was so bad, but then we started getting gear and by the end it was a lot stronger

[covert blaze]

Should be a shield anyway

[primal python]

they were both good for Aberrus prog depending on what you needed

[merry pivot]

mmm maybe I had to go ret in aberrus for the aura

[eternal sundial]

scaled into x2 233 weapons

[gilded pawn]

sin rogue scaled better

[eternal sundial]

scale dn

[tidal kindle]

@ruby tundraDms

[gilded pawn]

specifically 51% better

[merry pivot]

i p much played warrior in m+ for s2

[primal python]

same with vault

[tidal kindle]

@ruby tundra ight won't let me dm you
https://support.raidbots.com/article/54-installing-and-using-the-simulationcraft-addon

[covert blaze]

Dreadnaught is fine rn.....

[red yew]

Warrior aura buff scaling HACK

[merry pivot]

fury also got ~18% buff going from sl beta to end of 9.0 that probably helped

[tidal kindle]

I remember when fury at the end of my CN prog was bad but then by the end of my CN farm it was a lot stronger

[modest condor]

that's the joke

[merry pivot]

what a mess 9.0 was

[dapper goblet]

"blizzard knows what they're doing, they will buff us before the tier"

[eternal sundial]

all the sire ring u looted big gear scale

[merry pivot]

arms on sire if it was balanced well HOLY

[dapper goblet]

never forget SL beta

[young swan]

remember when the endboss of cn was the best fight in the game for arms and it still was worse than udk

epic

[tidal kindle]

I didn't get sire ring till last week

[lavish obsidian]

why does the guides say to use odyn's fury before avatar ?

[red yew]

https://tenor.com/view/muttly-laughing-giggle-silent-laugh-laugh-gif-5561789

[merry pivot]

u want it on cd so u can hit BT to get it back

[wild mica]

so you can start getting the cdr earlier

[covert blaze]

Unholy was fucking busted tbf

[merry pivot]

hmm surely fury won't get it's #1 build nerfed a week before patch for the second time this expansion (sl)

[lavish obsidian]

but isnt it the same if I would use recklessness -> avatar -> odyns fury ?

[eternal sundial]

max murdered amz smh!

[young swan]

no

[lavish obsidian]

on the opener

[tidal kindle]

Dancing blades

[lavish beacon]

@modest condor You spelt my name wrong

[tidal kindle]

Overwrites

[covert blaze]

You want to start getting 4pc cdr on of asap

[tidal kindle]

👉 Lost ark slayer

@daring laurel

[young swan]

man i still cant believe the strength of 50% SD leech

that is fucked

surely it wont apply to multiple targets

[lavish beacon]

That's some serious hps in execute

[eternal sundial]

surely theyll buff it to all executes

[lavish obsidian]

but that happens only on bloodthirst casts, if I do reckleness -> avatar -> odyns fury or reckleness -> odyns -> avatar

there is no bloodthirst cast

[indigo quarry]

its only on SD not on base Execute

[young swan]

on god if u ever die in prog as warrior next xpac u need to dance on the highway

[daring laurel]

[modest condor]

oh my bad let me fix it

[young swan]

its only SD procs

[indigo quarry]

we do some 400k crit Execute as Arms

[red yew]

Goated talent fr

[covert blaze]

I mean you are supposed to

[indigo quarry]

so 200k leech wtf

[covert blaze]

Look at the proper opener

[red yew]

Reminds me of Soul of the Slaughter due to the rng

[modest condor]

yeah that number is definitely gonna get changed before it goes live

[red yew]

But at least you can choose when you spend SD technically

[lavish beacon]

Ah, my bad then

[young swan]

its okay i appreciate your enthusiasm

[indigo quarry]

what we need now is that they change the shitty animation on Execute when you talent Massacre

so on your to report bug list

its #2

#1 is to report bug that parry still exists

[high basin]

i like it

[wanton obsidian]

condemn animation is sick

[tidal kindle]

Hate it

[red yew]

[hardy cargo]

f condemn animation

[red yew]

Wdym bug, it's a form of skill expression!

[indigo quarry]

its time for the hivemind

[wanton obsidian]

although they should remove it from the talent and just make it a glyph

[indigo quarry]

to follow

stop being like this

[red yew]

That's a good point

[wanton obsidian]

idk why they didnt just do that originally

[indigo quarry]

because trying to smash that Execute to only have the boss move a bit out of range and the hit being register only at the end of it is bad

[dapper goblet]

same reason we have smf plaguing the talent tree

[high basin]

i would also like a glyph that makes spear blue

[dapper goblet]

and its not just a glyph

[red yew]

Why do they make some abilities/classes ignore parry... It takes away from people's ability to express their skill

[red yew]

Doesn't regular Execute also have this issue

[indigo quarry]

pretty sure it does since they introduced condemn only

[covert blaze]

Getting CS parried must be the most infuriating thing I can imagine

[hardy cargo]

fine ill go watch the grom clip again

[red yew]

It sucks and it's even worse that you also don't get ToM

If CS is parried

[covert blaze]

That's
Unfortunate

[red yew]

Enjoy being blocked

😡

[covert blaze]

[steep fable]

So is bladestorm going to replace odyn's or ravager on our tree?

[tropic cobalt]

yo

we are so back

[young swan]

dont know

have to wait for alpha

to see that kind of stuff

[red yew]

Probably gonna be even worse for Fury to press BS so often unless they make it really short duration and/or hit hard

[young swan]

its guaranteed gonna be haste compressed

[tropic cobalt]

who cares about any of that nerdy shit when you can bladestorm again

brrrrrrrrr

[young swan]

but again

[wild mica]

arms has been there the whole time my guy

[young swan]

kinda just have to see what they have planned for alpha

[tropic cobalt]

never heard of it

[red yew]

[edgy widget]

absolutely - it already was in SL so probably no change there

[young swan]

i reserve like a 1% chance for them to randomly make it not compressed just in case but yeah theres no reason it wouldnt be

[red yew]

Only Signet BS wasn't, right?

[young swan]

im more interested to see if the extra damage ticks from imminent demise benefit the random proc from frenetic flurry

could be sick

[young swan]

the duration wasnt but the damage ticks were

[rotund ginkgo]

does wrecking throw apply on iridikron burn phase?

is it a "shield"?

[young swan]

so u got a million ticks over 4 seconds

or something

[rotund ginkgo]

or is it just a damage amp phase?

[red yew]

Yeye

[modest condor]

loved signet proccing bladestorm on the first boss in plaguefall

[red yew]

Manual BS had duration hasted while Signet BS had its ticks increased

[modest condor]

300% haste fixed length bladestorm with like 0.3s ticks

[red yew]

[wild mica]

i just hope the bladestorm proc doesnt stop you from using abilities because it'll end up feeling like a worse stinging swarm

[modest condor]

i mean it only hits once

it's not gonna take up 2 whole gcds to hit once

[red yew]

Would assume the channel either happens during the GCD or doesn't even channel

Just ticks

[wild mica]

i wouldnt put it past blizzard

[young swan]

i agree with this

and archi mentioned it in his feedback post as well

[tidal kindle]

Just copy the torghast auto-ww talent

Make that the BS tick

[modest condor]

my guess is that it doesnt even channel

[tidal kindle]

GG EZ

[young swan]

would be ideal

[sullen dove]

yea it def shouldnt channel

[red yew]

[rotund ginkgo]

any1

😦

[frank dawn]

It sounded like it would just be insta damage proc

[rotund ginkgo]

or is burn phase NOT a shiedl phase just a dmg amp phase

[modest condor]

burn is not a shield

[rotund ginkgo]

ty king ❤️

[ruby tundra]

is it normal that im getting more stamina than strength on my gear

[young swan]

yes

[warm crag]

what happened to your name

[clever path]

Dude these slayer talents look sick

[young swan]

i changed it

[young swan]

glad u decided to have a good take

[clever path]

Bladestorm being ST makes me happy

[fair oasis]

im not crazy right, reck has no effect on legendary active dam

[young swan]

correct

[warm crag]

why are u putting sympathizer in your name for a spec tree that literally has the same talent printed twice with different wording

[fair oasis]

keyword in reck being "your abilities"

[young swan]

reck gives spell crit for some cringe reason

[clever belfry]

true

king art i put there

[young swan]

so we're ignoring the entire rest of the tree

[clever path]

Does pally wings affect leggo damage?

[young swan]

it does

[clever belfry]

it has a 5% exe node as i expected

-> trash

[young swan]

doomers muted

[clever belfry]

(its fine, but without seeing BT rework this tree is meaningless for fury)

[warm crag]

the rest of the tree is trying to tie in bladestorm into singletarget for fury you are literally better off not mentioning the rest of the tree

[indigo quarry]

5% CRIT

[clever belfry]

(also i dont like how this more or less means arms will be more OP spamfiesta)

[young swan]

rework

[clever belfry]

LOL

[fair oasis]

revolving around execute when execute phase is p irrelevant in keys and also irrelevant after like 1 month of the riad being out

[clever belfry]

cope

and seethe

my mindset is

[indigo quarry]

Anda is dooming forever

[clever belfry]

go into it with worst mindset, i cant be disappointed then (i keep getting disappointed)

[paper ivy]

is there a way to compare your sim with other players who play the same spec?

to see what the highest sim is

[worldly skiff]

im guessing the tree is. popular?

[clever path]

I think some people will necer be satisfied if the talent doesnt read “you are broken and op”

[worldly skiff]

true and real

[young swan]

correct

[heavy sparrow]

Some people idea of a "good" spec begins and ends at "it does good damage"

[young swan]

correct

[tidal kindle]

Give me good design for gameplay

Over broken damage

[indigo quarry]

OP gonna be the spender

[tidal kindle]

But if not at least give me one of the other, don't just take away both

[indigo quarry]

you will see

[tidal kindle]

[heavy sparrow]

No way, the cd reduction would make no sense for a spender

[clever belfry]

wrong class m8

[tidal kindle]

Rerolling mage

Mb

[indigo quarry]

Garms never specced into Arms

[honest remnant]

Maybe we can apply to be one of DK horseman

at least

[tidal kindle]

Haven't done tindral as arms yet

[indigo quarry]

if you fly now its gonna be so boring

[tidal kindle]

I'm never

Allowed to not fly

So

[covert blaze]

so true bestie

[honest remnant]

🤝

[tidal kindle]

https://www.rope.com/collections/best-sellers

[indigo quarry]

the all point of doing Arms now is clearly if you can sit boss

[tidal kindle]

Who wants to go shopping?

[honest remnant]

Way ahead of u

[high basin]

arms is cringe on that boss anyway

[tidal kindle]

The way I ahve to use my CDs on fury

[covert blaze]

Speccing into rope + chair build

[tidal kindle]

It's blast roots for 2-3s

Then go fly

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/b8JEj2c.jpeg

[tidal kindle]

Loise 80% of my CDs

[red berry]

slayer sounds fun idk

[tidal kindle]

[misty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/strong-kitty-rope-cat-climbing-gif-20311491

[clever belfry]

Andalf rising

[tidal kindle]

Good name

[clever belfry]

its

an insane name

[honest remnant]

If you liked Bladestorming randomly during Nathria

yes

you'll like it 🙂

[dapper goblet]

arthur has been on the dk one for an hour now

slayer will not be discussed

[clever belfry]

ok but who asked

[dapper goblet]

shut up

you lost 2 world wars

[clever belfry]

arthur yaps and nothing useful ever comes out

[calm swallow]

🤣

[clever belfry]

2/2 insane score

[honest remnant]

Whos arthur

[young swan]

max

[sour frigate]

[indigo quarry]

if you use bladestorm and cancel it asap

[honest remnant]

Even worse

[calm swallow]

So a free, slightly chunkier whirlwind...

[indigo quarry]

its the same

[young swan]

it might just be entirely passive too

[sour frigate]

huricane stack lesgo

big cook

[honest remnant]

yay more rng

extend hurrican or rip

[junior gale]

entirely passive no affect to gameplay

[covert blaze]

I refuse to believe this doesn't just do 1 tick of damage with no channel

[young swan]

oh brother

dooming again

[indigo quarry]

its gonna be like Sidearm

[young swan]

cause the game has rng

wild

[indigo quarry]

i tried on live

[clever belfry]

i mean it can be a channel

[tidal kindle]

Aardvaark yapping

[indigo quarry]

if i cancelaura bladestorm

[clever belfry]

if its <1gcd

[indigo quarry]

its the same

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/bcsuU.gif

[clever belfry]

it does NOT matter

and it will be just that (do not at me)

[sour frigate]

imagine if it procs unhinged

op into 2 ms

[clever belfry]

oh hell nah

[dapper goblet]

xan calling others doomers

what a world we live in

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1061777871376490558.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[young swan]

its gotten that bad i fear

[clever belfry]

who

[junior gale]

Procs unhinged and MBG

[covert blaze]

balls

[dapper goblet]

i think its best we just put you down

[young swan]

yeah

[tidal kindle]

Idk whoever arthur is

Wait

Is arthur = max?

[young swan]

its

,max

[tidal kindle]

LMAO

[clever belfry]

ya

[young swan]

his name is arthur

[covert blaze]

do me, do me

[tidal kindle]

????

[honest remnant]

????

[tidal kindle]

Why pick

Another name

[eternal sundial]

arthur max maxiumum smitherino

[modest condor]

since when is his name arthur?

[clever belfry]

MAXimum

[eternal sundial]

smith

[clever belfry]

it just got shortened to max

[eternal sundial]

surely

[young swan]

birth probably idk just a guess

[lyric panther]

so both trees leaning on bloodthirst

[lavish beacon]

[junior gale]

Slayer owns

[modest condor]

why do all the official pages say his name is max then

[young swan]

doesnt like the name arthur

[honest remnant]

I feel attacked since MY name is max and he took it away as an Arthur

[sour frigate]

my name is max too

[honest remnant]

Arthurimum doesnt have the same ring to it tho

[covert blaze]

Bro had all traces of his questionable past deleted from the internet, surely he can change his name too

[oblique trail]

Hunter pets

[paper ocean]

@edgy widget when is the fury review for 11.0. 😀

[young swan]

details name guldan

[junior gale]

Fury review it existed

[dapper goblet]

pet names

[covert blaze]

Do not ask a man his salary, a woman her age or maximum the name of his hunter pets

[marble stratus]

Slayer is a bad cook. Puts you in one spec, which funny enough we VOTED for RB speck for our tier because it's more fun. Our execute in BB speck is still not prio but they double down on it... I just don't understand what they are doing

[dapper goblet]

speck

[modest condor]

i love specks

[young swan]

changing the spec so it doesnt rely on pressing rb or bt too much probably

just a guess!

[humble plover]

Seems to be current warrior but bladestorm instead of odyns and execute buffs

[oblique trail]

Are you somehow confusing hero talents with what we're gonna do in S4 or something

[plush juniper]

Is Slayer going to require us to have another /cancel Bladestorm macro lol

Like Signet proc

[young swan]

no? why would it

[eternal sundial]

surely we will get an option to use both alternating depending on priority like in sl not like rb is in df

[primal python]

you don't even need one because hurricane makes you unable to cancel it

[young swan]

they've said they want it to not be bt build vs rb build

so

[plush juniper]

Ahh true

[eternal sundial]

surely thatll end up working well

also murder reck uptime

[marble stratus]

i keep seeing the word "surely" like they haven't left fury on read for the past 8 months

[woven heath]

So... I guess slam is staying on the menu then...

[edgy widget]

Fury review for 11.0? Probably sometime after 11.0

[eternal sundial]

depends if that talent sticks around

personally wouldnt be thrilled to see it around

[woven heath]

I miss the SL days where balancing use was key.

[sour frigate]

spoiler ||outlaw better||

[eternal sundial]

ye that was good

[covert blaze]

They say a lot of things

[eternal sundial]

but now sims have more reck uptime than sl had enrage uptime

[calm swallow]

Why you say that? Nothing on Slayer indicates it requires Annihilator, and there's always Mountain Thane

[flat river]

Honestly

[humble plover]

Auto attack buffs and nothing mentioning raging blow leaves me to believe it's annihilator again

[flat river]

Make it affect raging blow instead of BT

[eternal sundial]

no

xd

[flat river]

And make it affect ravager

[calm swallow]

Yeah also no

[eternal sundial]

also make bt a real cd again not 2 seconds

[honest remnant]

Its gone

[eternal sundial]

back to 6 you go

[covert blaze]

Pretty good guild

[flat river]

Its not gone

But just talent node

[honest remnant]

its giga gone

[calm swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/right-to-jail-jail-parks-and-rec-right-away-fred-armisen-gif-16902115

[indigo quarry]

if Ravager is back

imagine Arms power

last time we had Ravager

[covert blaze]

Worst cook you've done
And you're a terrible chef

[indigo quarry]

we turbo nuked the tier

[flat river]

LOOK

I HATE BLOODTHIRST

THROW IT AWAY

[honest remnant]

Wouldnt even give it to the dogs

[calm swallow]

Bloodthirst has been with Fury since forever, no

[hardy cargo]

wasnt arms hot dogshit in castle nathria

[honest remnant]

Doesnt mean its good tho tbh

[eternal sundial]

yes

fury also was

[honest remnant]

Arms on dénatrius >>>>

Stonks

[high basin]

prot wasnt

😄

[honest remnant]

big time

[indigo quarry]

REAL RAVAGER

[eternal sundial]

real spec on danny>>

[indigo quarry]

#legion #tombofsoakgeras

[honest remnant]

This

i like this

[flat river]

Like

[honest remnant]

i want this

[eternal sundial]

#old

[flat river]

This hero talent tree

Is for arms

[honest remnant]

#doomer #boomer

[hardy cargo]

oh yeah I didnt play then so I didnt know the destinction

[flat river]

Not fury

[eternal sundial]

goober

[honest remnant]

#bud

[hardy cargo]

its fine for fury

[flat river]

#pal

[small dome]

Im not swapping to adds ever again.

[flat river]

Real

[honest remnant]

Archimonde trinket

no flavor

[covert blaze]

Love a second, more arbitrary Frenzy

[calm swallow]

I will admit it does feel like Fury was an afterthought on this tree. Like it was made with Arms in mind and then "Oh shit we need it to workf or fury too"

[honest remnant]

they're not even hiding it

[small dome]

I think the tree is awesome

[flat river]

Shut up arms player

[small dome]

im fury 100%

[flat river]

Doubt

[small dome]

lol

[honest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/gromnak-gunnars-mask-off-rage-world-of-warcraft-gif-22178131

[sour wing]

I love bladestorm fury

[small dome]

they put in a note saying fury is getting bladestorm

[calm swallow]

I'm not sayng it's bad, but it does feel more tuned to Arms playstyle/abilities. I never liked baldestorm on Fury, but at least this seems like it'll be better than it was

[flat river]

Left side of the tree is fine

[primal python]

it's literally a choice node though

[eternal sundial]

i wouldve really enjyoed the tc tree for arms

wcyd

[hardy cargo]

the problem with this tree is if they leave bs as a buff bot and leave it doing dogshit damage

[small dome]

bladestorm is better than ravanger tho

[flat river]

Rest is hot shit

[hardy cargo]

if bs pumps people will love it

[calm swallow]

I'll probably go mountain thane anyways. Sparky fury

[honest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[covert blaze]

Yeah idk maybe design something more interesting lmao

[flat river]

Real

[small dome]

yall crazy, I like it 😄

Mountain thane prot and slayer fury, thats all me

[flat river]

Bro who asked

[dapper goblet]

bladestorm as fury is fuck good if bladestorm isnt fuck bad

high chance it can be fuck bad

[honest remnant]

Bro didnt even mentioned Arms, you know its a fake one

[hardy cargo]

bro im sayin

[calm swallow]

Again, didn't say it's bad or that I don't like it. Just... expected different. The charge/heroic leap synergy is hawt tho

[small dome]

i dont like arms tbh, fury is cooler imo

[wanton obsidian]

wheres condemn in our execute tree

[primal python]

seems pretty cool for pure ST / when you don't hard swap off bosses tbh albeit less so for fury unless you run anni

[honest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-joever-frog-it's-frover-it's-over-meme-gif-297867383892280262

[calm swallow]

I'm more curious as to who/what was the inspiration here. We've had bladestorm before, there's not really any "flavor" with Slayer imo.

[covert blaze]

Bladestorm is boring as fuck

I'm so mad

[wild mica]

they just had no idea and some guy was like "oh yeah bladestorm exists" - then we got this tree

[dapper goblet]

feel like bladestorm fits the slayer theme

[eternal sundial]

go crazy (spin) flavor idk

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-26438788

[hardy cargo]

I like slayer but I still wish it was blademaster (more synergy with bladestorm)

[young swan]

how does bladestorm not fit slayer

[eternal sundial]

bladestorm and hurricane are evil

[humble plover]

Shout out to fury pressing bladestorm single target

[young swan]

big fuck meatgrinder guy spin does dam and makes them hurt

[humble plover]

[eternal sundial]

@young swanwhat if i proc bs every single time my hurricane is about to drop

for 30% str perma uptime

[young swan]

would be epic

[hardy cargo]

#deletehurricane

[young swan]

if we knew what was staying and being removed

[high basin]

casino spec

[honest remnant]

Sure, i also start execute phase with 15 Jugg stack EVERY TIME

[covert blaze]

Awesome for parsing

Very cool

[eternal sundial]

if tactician goes away id be a happy frog then

[edgy widget]

implication would appear to be that Ravager is gone, not back

[honest remnant]

#ravagergone

#hopestoo

[dapper goblet]

remove spear

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-dance-dancing-gif-13312067

[edgy widget]

unless they plan to do something radical like make BT a 10s CD or something, it seems like they're probably going to make BT the main basis of Fury again (think BfA/Legion Fury)

[eternal sundial]

wouldnt it be cool if we had a wishlist

[covert blaze]

Yes please

[paper ocean]

Wishlist*🤣🤣🤣

[modern skiff]

Did slayer save warrior?

[cold jolt]

should i macro my ashes to of

:3

[covert blaze]

Reck probably

[cold jolt]

use it prior to startiong the first?

fight?

[eternal sundial]

you reck charge ramp ashes of

cuz the 1 sec travel time + ramp is wasted stats

id guess

[covert blaze]

Yeah ideally you don't macro your trinket

But reck probably your best bet if you're lazy imo

[restive peak]

Could also macro it to OF and just be aware of its CD for when it doesn’t align; you’ll always want to use it on pull after reck ramp as you OF anyway

[serene vessel]

God I really hope they lower the duration of bladestorm to 2 seconds.

[oblique trail]

It was hasted in SL

And the channel was fairly quick

[clever path]

I’m down for ravager to be gone I hate floor targeted abilities. Spear next please

[oblique trail]

So don't think it'll feel too terrible

[restive peak]

We already have this with frenzy and it’s one of the reasons we do a ton of prio damage and don’t have a massive swap in rotation to do our AOE (and why we’re capped most likely), this is clearly a design style blizzard wants us to maintain

[serene vessel]

If it works like that I'll love this tree. But getting a random bladestorm when you press BT will sometimes feel ass if it's like a second duration.

[proper veldt]

how long is that proced bladestorm supposed to be? is it gonna be just half a second of bladestorm or is it instant , press BT proc BS , cant leap , dies to somehintg , is it gonna be like that or nah?

[serene vessel]

^exactly what I was thinking

In neltharion I used to stay in til yhe last second then leap out when he did his little shatter thing. Imagine proccing bladestorm and dying lol

[restive peak]

Not even concerned about the dying aspect, moreso the not having planned enrage around it and losing the 10% dr at bad times etc

But if they take the time to consider this when designing, it’ll be solid as fuck

[oblique trail]

The proc does not concern me at all in that regard

It says damage once, so it'll either be an instant BS or very short channel

[serene vessel]

I mean I'm assuming we're going back to bt always enraging

[restive peak]

It does say something about a smaller blade storm in the verbiage, no?

So probably just a quick .5s hasted one or something?

[serene vessel]

Yeah but that's just whirlwind at that point

[eternal sundial]

of course you dont care erga you dont play the videogame

[edgy widget]

based on the wording, it sounds as though it will either be instantaneous, or a 1s (likely hasted) channel so that it falls within the GCD

I don't believe the intent is to impinge on normal rotational gameplay

[oblique trail]

🐀

[restive peak]

Well no, it could be a hasted super short blade storm that’s .5-1s and that’s ok

I kinda took it the same as Archi is when I read it

[serene vessel]

Ehh, having random self stuns for 1 second sounds not ok to me

But maybe I'm cooked

[acoustic barn]

same

[edgy widget]

Well, BS isn't really a stun

[proper veldt]

if you are right then that would be awesome

[serene vessel]

Ok sure but you knrw what I meant. You lose control of your character for anything other than moving and stormbolt/kick

[edgy widget]

I do agree that it can be disruptive (can't leap, can't use CDs, etc), and for that reason alone I'd prefer it to be an instant background cast

but if it falls entirely within the GCD, I don't think that's a major problem

[eternal sundial]

im sure they can fix it and let us charge/leap in bs

if we can bolt

[edgy widget]

at most probably just a minor annoyance

[restive peak]

Yeah you can move during, def some issues I can foresee..and I don’t trust blizzards foresight to have considered it lol

[covert blaze]

I would like to think it's 1 tick of bladestorm damage with no channel

[edgy widget]

that would be the best way, yeah

[serene vessel]

Correct me if I'm wrong because I quit 4 months ago, isn't leap off gcd?

[edgy widget]

but I'm being mindful of all possibilities

[forest grove]

I wonder if blade storm will have other changes in the base talent tree tree too

[restive peak]

I think it’ll be a small channel or else, as the fellow warrior above said, that’s just WW

[simple goblet]

i imagine it being something like the thorghast power of rampage last hit doing a whirlwind, and the wording is just bladestorm so it works with the systems

[edgy widget]

yes, but you can't use it while bladestorming

[acoustic barn]

I fell like just makign it proc Whirlwind would be best if thats the case,

[serene vessel]

Yeah, i just meant that it being the duration of gcd is still hugely bad

[edgy widget]

though you can cancel bladestorm, so I mean... theoretically if the insta-BS is a channel, you could just put a cancelaura in your macro (assuming Hurricane doesn't continue to exist or block it)

[proper veldt]

if its actually a small proc it would be rly good in pvp tho

[edgy widget]

hugely bad is probably overselling it, but again, I think this is more of a "cross that brdige when we come to it" kind of situation

[forest grove]

Honestly both this and the note in Colossus about moving around storm bolt and thunder clap (I think) makes me REALLY want to see the base trees as much as the hero trees

[edgy widget]

could be making an issue out of absolutely nothing - we won't know until we see the implementation

[restive peak]

There’s still so much we do not know

[acoustic barn]

sstill a ton of info needed to make any leaps

[edgy widget]

I don't like to jump to conclusions, so I'm quite content to just make a note of it and readdress once alpha testing starts

*I also did mention this very scenario in my feedback post pinned above btw

[restive peak]

BT could be getting a huge upgrade to basically be onslaught with a 20-30s CD for example, for all we know, and the 20% CDR is then massive

[acoustic barn]

same here

[restive peak]

If nothing changes the 20% CDR is dead weight, could go either way

Hyped to see but will remain pretty meh til we know

[edgy widget]

yeah the CDR talents seem super sus

[restive peak]

Has to be implying a change, but who knows

[edgy widget]

unless they're planning to rework BT into like a 10s CD I don't see any value coming from that

[restive peak]

OP def does not benefit from any CDR either

[edgy widget]

well it doesn't right now

[restive peak]

So has to be something to it, but we won’t know til we know

[edgy widget]

it might if they got rid of tactician or something

[restive peak]

True

[forest grove]

I think even if they changed it a node just for cdr is kinda unexciting

[simple goblet]

thats what it feels like from reading it

[forest grove]

But ig you can't make them all flashy

[hollow ridge]

Bladestorm for fury was 1 minute during shadowlands right? Or am I remembering wrong

[edgy widget]

I mean maybe; think about how we used BT w/ S2 tier

[bitter palm]

would be cool

[edgy widget]

it was a pretty decent playstyle, so I wouldn't necessarily hate it if the rotation was mainly RB spam with the occasional big BT

[restive peak]

I find it interesting that the forced bladestorm has some direct similarities to demolish being a channel, I wonder why they’re making us have more channeled abilities baked in…any other classes with similarities there?

[bitter palm]

new bt = current onslaught

[edgy widget]

make that BT auto crit to apply CSHB or whatever, give it a little damage juice to justify the CD

I'd be ok with that

[clever belfry]

6s cd, 2 charges

[restive peak]

Agreed on that, would be very similar to fated upcoming though

[clever belfry]

take it or leave it

[edgy widget]

more or less, yeah

[restive peak]

And it’s rare we feel identical play style wise tier to tier

All speculation though, we’ll know more soon

[edgy widget]

But yeah, I mentioned elsewhere, the biggest problem with looking at the new stuff is remembering not to apply it to the gameplay we currently have

[restive peak]

110%

[edgy widget]

it is not even hypothetical, it is completely guaranteed that there will be Arms and Fury spec changes in TWW, which will certainly affect our perception of these hero talents to at least some degree

doesn't mean we can't analyze, theorize, and debate on the strengths and weakness of what we currently see, just good to keep in mind that everything is subject to change

[covert blaze]

Agree

[bitter palm]

honestly i think they should move bt to like a 10s cd

make a crit enrage

kinda how it was in legion

[edgy widget]

Except Rider of the Apocalypse Death Knights
fuck that spec lol

[restive peak]

Agreed as per usual

[edgy widget]

I can already imagine the insane amount of audio/visual clutter when an entire fuckin extra raid of 40 horsemen pile in melee

[covert blaze]

I think rider is very cool
We'll have to see how rng it is

[edgy widget]

it is very cool

and I already hate it lol

[covert blaze]

I'm afraid of the balancing of the capstone frost vs unholy

[edgy widget]

I just know I'm gonna be sittin there, watching for puddles under my feet

[covert blaze]

Is you run 1:30 FWF vs army being around 3 minutes

[edgy widget]

and some fuckin DK is gonna sound the horn of gondor and pile 19 horsemen on top of my ass

[covert blaze]

Probably only visible to the dk or something

[acoustic barn]

WE RIDE FOR ROHAN

[covert blaze]

Remember when wild spirits was only visible for the hunters and tanks would constantly troll it

[serene vessel]

i agree with ur name 🙂

ive been a bladestorm hater for years, I only want bladestorm if its instant

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[edgy widget]

I'm sayin

[primal python]

remember when tanks could see spear and still didn't give a shit

[edgy widget]

one would hope, but that's rarely the case with these things 😦

don't worry though, I already made a stink about it 😆

as soon as I saw that I was like "ok this is cool, but AH HELL NAW"

[humble plover]

Slayer is something. I'll be throwing lightning tho ggs

[covert blaze]

It's not really like seeing them would be good information
It's not even that relevant for the dk himself aside from the dnd one.

[gentle terrace]

I did a Fyrakk with like 7 DKs once and the entire raid crashed and got dced

[sullen dove]

yea idk if thats much different to like 5 hunter pets and 20 army of the dead

but ig its just "more" of that

[covert blaze]

Same
We had to make them stagger their armies

[dapper goblet]

castle nathria 4 armys + slappy hands while having to stay inside the bubble while dodging the bullet time mechanic

[covert blaze]

What mechanic

[dapper goblet]

bullet time mechanic

[covert blaze]

Sire?

Massacre?

[tidal kindle]

Guys Big Blizzard is fooling you by putting The Warm Wool over your eyes. TWW doesn't stand for The War Within, it's really Three Wise Warriors

wArchi
xeosWonka
Warriorsarri

@rancid osprey how'd I do

[sullen dove]

[covert blaze]

????

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-huh-confused-shocked-gif-24485219

[tidal kindle]

Xeos is cookin the expac

[junior gale]

🤮

[tidal kindle]

Last time xeos commented on arthurs stream

https://tenor.com/bt8G2.gif

[indigo quarry]

[dapper goblet]

never not told the truth on arthurs stream

[tidal kindle]

You couldve just told nothing

[dapper goblet]

saved you freaks from playing banner

hey dumb ass leap over here and buff the fire mages

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/OrrV.gif

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-20924249

me in dev feedback as soon as I saw skull banner datamined

[primal python]

banner would've been so rancid

[misty edge]

banner > spear

[rose bay]

Raid wide banner :c

[young swan]

cant wait for banner to come back in the the(t) war within(ww(warwithin)) alpha (testing cycle)

[covert blaze]

Copy paste Rally
Make it an offensive buff
Call it banner

[edgy widget]

ok tbf I was talking about when they tried to add Skull Banner back to the tree, not Conq Banner

Conq Banner is fine, but right now Ravager is basically the same thing

fuck Skull Banner though, there's no way in hell I'm letting them turn Warriors into DK/Lock/Druid buff bots

[serene vessel]

@edgy widget btw ur pinned post is wrong, just a minor note.
You mentioned them not mentioning raging blow but every talent has raging blow almost

[young swan]

cant forget mage

[edgy widget]

? That's Mountain Thane

[serene vessel]

OH

[edgy widget]

there's a - there

[serene vessel]

i cant read LMAO

[young swan]

yuski moment

[edgy widget]

[serene vessel]

rude

[young swan]

couldve been a carlo moment

those are much worse

[serene vessel]

ok true actually

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-laugh-laughing-i-cant-read-book-gif-17894333

[young swan]

did u see carlo's carlo moment earlier today

[serene vessel]

no i havent been in discord much because i quit end of s2

what happened

[tidal kindle]

Yapski moment

[edgy widget]

bragging about predicting slayer would be leech and execute or whatever? Yeah cause 8/10 people didn't see that one coming

[rose bay]

More buffs I would love to see those log freeks have to fix more hooks

[junior gale]

its ok you're a warrior its in your blood to not read

[young swan]

said slayer would be leech and attack speed based and then it had 2 nodes that dealt with leech and attack speed and thought he was the messiah because of it

[primal python]

easy, delete aug

[young swan]

bro thought he was lisan al-gaib

[edgy widget]

I (and about a hundred other people) also correctly predicted Slayer would revolve around SD and S1 Fury/S3 Arms proc increase bonuses, but you don't see me jumpin up and down about it 🤷‍♂️

[rose bay]

Make aug 2.

[young swan]

he wasnt even muad'ib

[serene vessel]

lmao imagine warrior being based on attack speed and leeching

we definitely don't have a skill called BLOODTHIRST

[humble plover]

Alright when do we start our Twilight arguments on team slayer or team mountain thane?

[rose bay]

Cata execute is back tho

Attack speed on execute! Dosent stack to 5 tho

[tidal kindle]

Yah we have bloodlust at home instead

...wait

[rigid stirrup]

it'll be like in those warcraft 3 custom games where your max out attack speed and your hero animations gets broken because they're hitting so fast

[covert blaze]

Being able to see that

[young swan]

still hoping current RA gets nuked from orbit so we can get back OG bloodbath

[tidal kindle]

Bloodcraze

[edgy widget]

honesty it wasn't a bad prediction, I just didn't think it was particularly bold

but maybe that's just because I can't read Slayer and not think PoE Slayer... which is also all about leech, attack speed, and execute

[tidal kindle]

📈

[serene vessel]

i actually wish fury had more haste related stuff

in my mind fury should be just an onslaught of fast attacks

[quartz viper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-attack-angry-gif-14779345

[rose bay]

I like the mini blade storm stuff

[serene vessel]

oh so its a dead spec then?

AYYOOOO

[edgy widget]

I mean it's still a Warrior... so yes

[sour wing]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-sword-xd-gif-25215163

[rose bay]

Like a quick little twirl every execute

I'm happy they didn't lock us out of kick and stun tho. It woulda been really fucking funny to miss a kick cause twirl time

[quartz viper]

Sorry, can't kick that. Too busy spinning. 🙂

[sour wing]

im going to love tunnel vision

[edgy widget]

but you can now!

[rigid stirrup]

nah you actually throw stormbolts out while you're spinning

which would be so funny

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/9DCc.gif

Tunnel vision bad, pseudo forces mouseovers for everything

Or degenerate non targ switching gameplay

[edgy widget]

Yeah, tunnel vision is bad

[sour wing]

you target swap?

[edgy widget]

nice concept, but bad execution

[quartz viper]

It was a good excuse before but seeing we can now is pretty good to see.

[covert blaze]

Guess blizz didn't like my idea of making stormbolt AOE and shockwave single target

[tidal kindle]

Yes cuz I have mouseovers

[rose bay]

More nazzgrim Cossplay I love it

[tidal kindle]

Mouseover OP MS Exe / BT ramp RB

[rose bay]

Man fury having bladstorm again. I cant wait to have enough haste to have like a .7 second bladestorm

[covert blaze]

💀

[sour wing]

I usually sit on a target until it or I die

[cold jolt]

is there any profession stuff in forbidden reach

[tidal kindle]

They're standard cast with a mouseover option

Blame bfa arms and frenzy for fury + our s2 df tier set

[dapper goblet]

never used a mouseover

never will

fight the power

[quartz viper]

^

[covert blaze]

Ok that's not as bad

That's functional

[covert blaze]

Common xeos "2 cool 4 school" moment

[rose bay]

Being back banners. I wish for all the buffs. Let me make Augsburg weep with how many buffs I bring.

[quiet bramble]

I'll admit I didn't predict slayer being bladestorm focused

I guess they saw builds ignoring it and went "HELL NO"

[young swan]

we dont have bladestorm period

atm anyways

[quiet bramble]

maybe it's going to the class tree

[tidal kindle]

Slayer

Isn't bladestorm focussed though

[young swan]

spec tree

[tidal kindle]

[spice sage]

it is, there's a dev note on it

[young swan]

its going to the spec tree, not class tho

[quiet bramble]

oh, my bad

regardless, I'm sorry, Slayer is focused on Bladestorm and executes reducing the cd and empowering it to my eyes

[tidal kindle]

👍

Yah they're making execute interact with almost everything in fury's kit

And similarly for arms

[modest condor]

i think it's definitely fair to say slayer is bladestorm focused

[tidal kindle]

How so

[modest condor]

like half the talents affect bladestorm

[quiet bramble]

half the talents buff it?

[modest condor]

hell the capstone talent is a cdr for bladestorm

[junior gale]

BS is def a big part of the Slayer tree

[tidal kindle]

Fair

The way I see it

Sudden death > +1 BS tick
Execute marked by autos > -5s BS CD

Execute is the qualifier
Overwhelming blades is the only standalone bs focused one

[quiet bramble]

Frenetic Flurry is there too

hopefully Flurry doesn't lock you out of other abilities

[modest condor]

i mean it's execute and bladestorm

but that includes bladestorm

[tidal kindle]

Yah fair enough

[quiet bramble]

my biggest concern is just spending a ton of time in bladestorm isn't exactly the most fun, not when arms and fury have been rather gcd capped of late

[left perch]

say it as “silmping” instead

[modest condor]

arms being gcd capped is a design issue, it shouldnt be

[hardy cargo]

It will feel good if bladestorm is buffed to do damage and feels good

[modest condor]

i thought about it but it looked weird so i didnt

[left perch]

[hardy cargo]

If bladestorm still feels like dogshit like it has then it’ll suck spinning

[left perch]

well we can’t have you looking weird

[modest condor]

i already look weird

[quartz viper]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-24013447

[cold jolt]

wats an artisans curious

curios

[sullen dove]

[urban drum]

Slayer a W or L

[sullen dove]

mostly w

[covert blaze]

L

[sinful spoke]

W

ignore zhai

[urban drum]

2/3 W

[sinful spoke]

hes old and bitter

[covert blaze]

Bro?

[young swan]

w

[covert blaze]

[urban drum]

looks like a W monkaW

[young swan]

its a good tree

[covert blaze]

tbf I'm not even mad about the tree I'm mad about bladestorm

[young swan]

people are just cringe and assuming the spec is gonna stay the exact same and never change

also yeah

[sinful spoke]

im happy about it

:3

i love bladestorm on fury

[young swan]

some people dont like bladestorm

[urban drum]

too iconic not to like

[young swan]

but we dont even know what they're gonna do with AM (the only reason BS is bad)

[quiet bramble]

Rather it be ravager

[junior gale]

I like BS but Ravager should remain as an option

[slim coral]

Cause they’re lost