#fury
1 messages · Page 395 of 1
ok thats epic
oh yeah
day 1 leveling + island thing
cuz aug didnt exist
i was like look at this ultimate chad raidlogging only
nah
if i just raidloged
id just unsub
not worth the money straight up
even if i just do 4 keys a week with some lads
anda
whats up kabaner
keyz?

oh yeah remember that tweet that said announcement about 10.2.6 at 18 cet?
who would have thought they were making shit up
It’s the pretty standard time for them to post updates
yeah but it's almost 19 cet and still nothing
exactly it’s very odd
Maybe they fucked up something with DST?? But iirc the other post this week was at the normal time
they are afraid
😠
If you fellows would like, I can share a TikTok zoomer brainrot version of anakin vs obiwan to help pass the time
can someone explain to me why the double rogue warr and bear goes well together
They’re good players and they have fun
They all like vers, they all like attack power
idk if they go PARTICULARLY well together
this just seems like a good group of friends that happen to be decent at the game
fair
cause they forgot DST
as usual
Wasn’t Tuesday’s post done correctly though
But also fuck DST
called it !
smh
its coffee break time
na, those posts are never timed
DogShitTime
and the hearthstone event was an hour late to start too
omg big news!
Pogpogpog
I’m pogging out
Tbh I like whoever did that graphic
That’s a fun throwback
omg huge!!!
Batchesting so hard rn
does anyone mind texting me when blue skull post drops
yes
I need leggo and good news when I get home
already more frequent than blizzard updates
😄
puzzlebox lost some thunder when it got nerfed/changed, though you can still do some fun stuff with it by channeling mid-legendary (assuming the legendary gets updated)
because im like on what should i use my item tokens for if s4 is like shadowlands 24
just loot them natty
not with my luck^^ (no augiry since release and i cleared the raid every week
still a few too many unknowns to really answer those questions - whether we'll have dinar again, how many we'll have, what can be bought, if we'll be able to upgrade Fyr'alath, whether we'll need to spend one on upgrading it
also some of the group trinkets could come into play again
Icon is an easy pick so overbudget
tier is also a question; very early on they actually were talking about having all three tier sets available
but then the big "vote for your set" came out and ruffled a bunch of feathers
probably won't affect our trinkets as much as other classes though
Oh yeah, we gettin some update today? Naowh was talking about it lol
S4 next week leggos for all on day 1 warriors now have lust, brez, and target cap removed, we ball
There'll be a development update today yeah
At some point
Idk about 10.2.6 though
the update is fated is canceled 8 more months of Tswift and Fyrakk
would be very cool and funny
so we can all go and spread Democracy in Helldivers 2
poor Dread is still on TSwift jail (33% p3)
Wait a minute
I recognize your name
Are you on stormrage
yesh
its ok after Tswift jail its straight to Fyrakk prison
fyrakk isnt that bad anymore
People said that about tindral
We just made it to Tswift p3 limping in. What's the average Fyrakk pulls now for a first time kill?
It’s hard as fuck for the guilds on it still
300-350 pulls on Fyrakk
now?
Iirc
400+
Fyrakk isn't that bad anymore, but I suspect he'll still catch another nerf at some point
yeeeesh
^
okay well tindral isnt that bad anymore either but its still the hardest boss in the instance
so
The moment you start seeing P3 at least a few times, any pull can be kill
Current guilds on fyrakk are largely in the 400+ range
TSwift is still a one-mistake = wipe hell
Tindral kinda got worse
tbh so is P2 Fyrakk in a lot of ways
P1 is still annoying for our guild even after killing it
it definitely got better but they havent solved the issue of 5 gorillian 1 shot mechanics
tswift is still bad
you can recover P2 mistakes, sometimes, but definitely not a guarantee
The P2 pulls we've had hasn't felt nearly as bad as just wiping in P1/Intermission
Because people decided not to soak
I'm trying to petition the guild to let the better mechanic players do seed once we're on him. Seems to be the right call than sending in the floor enjoyers.
Surely that's just a given
why would u ever let floor enjoyers handle seeds...
Fyrakk is easy as fuck now, Tindral suuuuucks
oh no....
Bro we're crushin fyrakk just after 3rd drop with buyers now, it's so dumb lol
I wish this was my life.
Took having no life early to get there 😛
Based on r.io pull counts:
The 5 closest guilds to fyrakk kills atm are at
296
512
504
555
198
its kinda crazy that once you get past tindral fyrakk is basically guaranteed
^
So as someone thats progging it would you say the fight gets easier the further in you get
Usually raiderio pull counts are lower than logged pull counts though in my experience
(fryakk)
just like you banezeo
no you
Fyrakk prog is mostly i1 and P2 cages/not blazing adds, literally once you get that down he just dies
spell reflect
trying to pug 27+ 🥲
sick
tbf we still have beam huggers in P1 lol so it'll be a journey for sure.
It’s definitely mostly p1 and intermission

couple p3 pulls to figure out seed stuff too
but yeah it just kinda falls over eventually
Ye but a few P3s aint bad, considering how much easier it is than before. P1 is super quick now too so it's not hard
You say P1 is super quick but you aren’t progging the boss p1 right now lol
It’s not super quick for guilds getting to it now
i1 will just depend on how lazy your "fill" players are, if they don't suck it's super easy and if they're lazy it'll be a rough night
Had enough of holding CDs back in SoD to have perma PTSD since then
we've had 2 nights of fyrakk prog and we saw intermission twice now
Man that's all over the place, we're probably gonna be in the 500s range lol I'll just enjoy the process. Atleast the guildies are chill peeps.
The only way to die in P1 is healers fucking up or eating frontals, honestly. At least for warriors
The P1 Fyrakk experience
The 198 is definitely an outlier that’s extremely efficient
There will another tindral+fyrakk nerf coming for sure, Arch is right
296 is good. The 500s are what I expect will be the norm until further nerfs
Wouldn't be surprised to see Smolder further bastardized too
Yes, please make the priest/DH immune to beams lol
he was so giga nerf with the 3 balls already
I don’t think anything besides maybe fyrakk will be touched until fated, if even then
Yeah but people are still stuck there LOL
Smolderon hasn’t been touched in 3 months
there better be more tswift and Fyrakk is annoying on farm having to spend 2/3 raid nights just for tswift and Fyrakk
i dont even know what u nerf on smolderon now
I dont see smoldy as a wall tho
Tindral will get nerfed again
10% hp
So that they can limp kills
for Fyrakk they need to remove the need for those WA
maybe they can do same for Smoldy boy ?
or at least, smolderon feels like child's play when faced with TSwift
I see so many guilds with sub-10% wipes
And they’re just hard stuck wiping like that over and over
Ye I expect a pure HP nerf for Smolder, likely dmg or dispel on Tindral (fightwill be a pinata after that though), and fyrakk likely more add nerfs or something
You cut 5-10% off Smolderon it falls over for tons of guilds
Personally I’d think reduced quantity of adds
Maybe removing the outermost ones
Most wipes at Tindral are because of dispels I assume
Yup P2 dispels
Yes pls lock in my world rank 4 >:)
Ye we either wipe there on sales or he dies, it's that or nothing literally except alts lol
Alright gonna try 29 DHT be back in 7-10mins (lewl hope not)
no plz dont do this i wont be able to nicely time my TOM window for Fatality anymore
We wiped a lot on first reclear just die to people being dumb with beams
IMO the most likely tindral nerf is dispels or just demolishing beam damage
for us its the clusterfuck of soaking seeds and roots burst damage. Specially 2nd and 3rd root on p2
Halondrus style beam nerf
The funniest is we reclear tindral on mains and he's a walk over, then on alts we wipe 15x before killing just cuz people are so scatterbrained
in P1 are the DH doing their vengeful retreat to beams, then blaming it on lag.
Funniest moment for me was landing on roots and pressing my warrior buttons from muscle mem xD
Lmao nah our DH is a baller
Lincc I’m gonna send you a clip from our reclear
Oh baby
When I had to play prot pally with zero prep
Kk pulling DHT, send it xD
GL with dat mang
It's beyond stupid that they removed the private auras from intermission but kept P2
Sure, P2 is easier to do naturally without a WA... but nobody actually does
“Ok guys they fixed it. But you still need the macro. lol.”
all private auras have done is exacerbate the amount of time we spend unfucking weak auras outside of actually practicing the encounters, it's just become another layer of artificial "difficulty" that serves no purpose outside of blizzards stubbornness
Oh I haven't even checked the weakauras for Fyrak, that's gonna be a great raid night on the following weeks..
when really, the only reason they have to private these auras is because they insist on creating over the top mechancis in the first place
It’s notably a weakaura + macro
Like Smolderon
yep we lose so many precious hours fixing WA its insanity
"OrbOnMe"
literally every time we go to reclear half the bosses in the raid
Which also makes me question what the fuck people are doing to their WAs week to week but that's another matter
its like my RL who has RC loot council turned off for the first boss of every single raid, without fail, and I still cannot understand why he doesn't just leave it enabled when he literally doesn't do any other content on that character
Think the worst case is people using both Northern Sky and Liquid WA's when we've explicitly said to turn Liquid off (multiple times btw)
I'm not very knowledgeable in the subject, but I suspect they didn't predict the macros coming into place, that they made private auras to try to force people to do the mechanics natty
YUP (although in our case its the opposite)
maybe, I mean we've used similar WAs in the past (for different reasons, but same practical result)
we did it even better, we started off with northern sky but then the healers were complaining on smolderon so now we use norhtern sky up to smolderon and then liquid for the rest
but the fact is still that after those WA practices came to light, they decided to unprivate some offending mechanics, while inexplicably leaving others
and it's just... pointless
Nah that's cursed
Yeah like they literally half fixed fyrakk
Guess private auras is just a failed experiment
it is
Intermission no longer needs macro, but p2 needs it
this is how my guild is doing it
I get the intent, I really do
and I actually agree with the idea
but their execution sucks
That’s cursed
balls on smoldy boy would be easily fixed by just having a number pop up on your head
no need for a WA you just count
if it was a normal aura it would have been done this way
don't even need a number tbh
I mean, honestly
what would be the practical impact if Smolderon aura was unprivated?
- the little list, or a number, or some other indicator would automatically pop up for people
- you'd still have to actually do the mechanic in some kind of sequence without overlapping
- it'd still wipe people if you didn't
They’d have to admit defeat and concede
they even got outplayed because of the threat the orbs did
literally the only difference is that 3/18 people wouldn't have to push a button, and 15/18 people wouldn't be able to mess it up if they did mistakenly push a button
plus we'd save about 20m of not having to do WA checks and troubleshooting each week
sounds like a good deal to me...
I was wondering how they envisioned that working?
I mean, if they did the whole thing to not have weakauras for it
in a world where we couldn't circumvent shit with WAs? People would react naturally and make call outs
then what? voice?
Did you ever do Mekkatorque?
the number of people pushing that macro WA when they didnt have the balls, i wanted to uninstall the game
Mekkatorque was a good one with the robot
They basically want that mechanic again, where players stop and communicate what they see and what's going on, rather than have a WA do it for you
Nope, I wasnt playing during that content.
which I 100% get and sympathize with that idea
but you still kinda do anyways
or rather, the Raid Lead is still very aware of the order
mekkatorque was cool
Mekkatorque was great
except for the LoS shit
If you had people actually use their mic
that was dumb
except the difference is that Mekkatorque stopped pretty much everything when that mechanic happened - the targeted people literally have nothing else going on and the non-targeted people have nothing to communicate
and they gave you plenty of time to actually communicate and figure out what you're doing
When I progged him I had multiple people be non-verbal go into the bots so I'd have to call both their colours, then just either wait for them to type the colour or get bricked
during Smolderon prog, at least on my case, our RL was very much aware of the order and call out where regularly made.
gkick people that refuse to use mic
Whereas fights like Jailer, Nelth, Smolderon, Tindral, and Fyrakk give you about 5s to figure out what you and 2-5 other people are doing, while also keeping up with the rest of the fight
all of you smf enjooyers that rerolled outlaw , where are you keybinding all those abilities
it was only after a bunch of pulls that we started doing it on our own. And kinda. Becuase the Heal Lead still made callouts to slow one orb during a high damage phase.
Where it makes sense based on what you're comfortable with?
Someone elses keybinds wont necessarily help you unless yours are already extremely jank and genuinely detrimental
Binds are completely personal
so yeah, if blizz wants fully private auras we have to stop and talk about mid fight, that's fine - just give us time to actually stop and talk about it, not 5s before the raid insta-wipes
yeah like tindral seeds
real
at this point I think Blizz is trolling us
gotta be
They been trollin us for weeks mang
I've asked several people and nobody seems to have any idea what's going on, or even what the announcement is supposed to be; I'm honestly starting to think that it was a blue news copy/paste error 🤣
Also DHT 29 was going so well til it wasn't D:
just exploit it 4head
True true truueeeeeeeee, those players are BIS D:
hero talents tomorrow, yes; unless something dramatic happens, that one is definitely happening
SLAYER HYPE
That exploit thread was hilarious
EXECUTE 100-0 SURELY
Seriously lmao
The funniest part is the effort to still take the full key time to "look legit"
im not even kidding i would hate this
Same hahah
Yeah, ngl they had a good point with the removal of Condemn
I hated condemn so badly from day 1 and so many people meme'd on me man
It was dogwater play, fuck that
Just leave execute 20-0 and make it crank
Condemn was fun as something that you do sometimes, but I don't think I'd like "Execute all the time" as a primary gameplay mechanic
Yeah cause then you're just making the middle part of the boss feel worse
Instead of execute feeling better
The defensive aspect of Condemn was legit though; lotta people really undervalued it early in SL
one of my main complaints in Legion was that, for all the emphasis on Juggernaut damage, Warriors didn't really have anything to help ensure they actually live through the Execute phase that 75% of their damage is concentrated in - Condemn's DR wasn't exactly the same concept, but I still liked it
Slayer should have been named Juggernaut with all that Execute style
OP as fuck
it being shadow damage and bypassing armor was also good
tbf that's usually tuned out
like if OF was still fire damage, it would just do ~23% less direct damage to compensate
after you got burrs tho
i wouldnt mind condemn coming back I think
like specifically I want the 80% cause bosses like sark and raz have been trending where p1 damage actually matters
5% more from hunter buff
I wouldn't mind if it were brought back in the form of a cooldown or something, like how Ret's Avenging Wrath lets them cast Hammer

but also yeah devaluing execute by just having it usable all the time is kinda cringe
but I do think spamming Execute for half of the fight all the time isn't the best form of gameplay
yeah agreed
thats also kinda why i hope they dont put anything in that deals with SD proc rate
but yeah, if there was a talent somewhere that said "during Avatar (or whatever), Execute is usable at any health percent" - I'd be ok with that
Spamming execute may as well make execute fury filler #3
that would be pretty cool
Ret has stolen enough shit from us, we can afford to steal a few things from them in turn 😆
3rd torment 
or maybe if the ppl knew how to follow instructions
crazy how ppl have issues with this
I don’t think it makes sense on fury though
Since a lot of fury’s execute power is on the generation
And in cds you don’t really worry about generation
Unless any overcap gets converted to damage

Hyped for new TFT patch
wrong discord bro
can we steal 1min avatar from ret
I think 1 min is better
while i think 1:30 is cool
at the same time id rather sync up with my raid on CD timings
I don't really care what Avatar is at as long as it syncs with other stuff
and it currently does so 🤷♂️
boring ass 20% amp
supposed to be getting some
they never said the year
55 tacos 55 fries
xan wants shorter cds but hates am...curious..
actually reminds me of some funny shit
(loves cof hates am)
dont hate am hate 20% proc chance UF
muted dont type back
dude
one of the bigger addon devs I talk to regularly linked me patch notes and was malding over some warrior changes
and I was so confused because I hadn't seen them at all
this was an actual WH post of the notes, I went to the front page, didn't see it - even more confused
wh?
I look at the notes and I'm like "ok these changes seem familiar..."
Oh
turns out they were patch notes from the same day of last year and he'd just found an old post somehow 🤣
LOL
lmao
Better not be hekili
like he was literally linking me March 13, 2023 or whatever day that happened to be
I was like HOW DID YOU EVEN PULL THIS UP!?
cant wait for the dev update to be "we are still developing 👍 "
Dev update is gonna be "we have big news to announce next Friday, stay tuned!"

literally would not be the first time
maybe they're waiting for EU to go to bed

yes close those eyes
news when
its 9pm
We're gonna find out in like 1.5hrs
can they just tell us now instead
Blizzard gonna cancel everything if you dont go to bedge like a good boy
Bro go to sleep
You’re delaying the news!
the post about the dev update said 14 of march
but didn't specify the year so just go to bed
might as well be next year 
you guys are going to poggers out so hard
HOW DO SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE THIS LEAKED BUT NOONE HAS LEAKED TO US D:
Vampire survivors type of a game mode in wow on a separate wow client is the only "leak" i've seen around
xeos leak dn
I could know if I want to but I’m a yapper so I asked them not to tell me
The curse of the autistic yapper
Friend to all.. yapper to all..
you do be fuckin yappin
Wow soon to have all game modes confirmed?!
a full game mode where you solve puzzles just like the absolute god of puzzle WQs Lorgok does
ngl those puzzles were fun
I wouldn't wanna do em all day, but it was nice little break from normal wqs
i liked watching grom do them
i really enjoyed the Legion ones too
the Kirin Tor WQs where you follow the blocks that light up
👀
🙃
ngl when they said everyone can play it i thought it would be something along those lines
or something where they use the Torghast tech
and do something fun/weird with it
its content, but it ain't that kind of content
Is it a minigame that's required....cuz for all the hype everyone has for roguelike shit and such I DO NOT WANT
lol
yeah it's required, if you don't do it you have to delete your account
it's basically squid games, you have to play or you die
if you lose you also die
if you quit you also die
when do we earn the million ?
get ded
nice ive been looking for an easy way out
^
OH FUCK
new invincible episode came out last night
need to watch that
ty for reminder
dont know why they needed a 5 month break in the middle of a season but who am i to judge
I'm not watchin that shit for at least 3 weeks
Wife is hyped to watch Love is Blind tn please kill me
I hate weekly episode releases
yeah its super annoying
only show i'm currently waiting for is Fallout , i'm trying to have low expectations but the trailers were killing it
i hate that the norm has become spending 3 years developing only to release weekly
Fallout trailers look fantastic
The Boys season 4, we HYPED
Walton Goggins is also a personal favorite, so I'm looking forward to that even if the show itself isn't amazing
condolences my guy
oh pog also got in to the cata beta , time to level up a warrior and remember how weird , warrior was in cata
I just binged tf out of fleabag tho so I can’t really judge
Oh shit
He’s just so good

cant wait for them to disregard even more established lore
im just waiting for andor s2
surely after being in delay hell it will be as good as s1...
But how can you show emotion if you don’t see the actors face? 
I sure hope Powerarmor will be used extemely seldomly
i also dislike the BOS being in it
i know this already, yes
honestly that's such an overblown complaint
yeah I know lmao
the hills people decide to die on actually amaze me
there's gonna be differences, it's inevitable
wait they do a Fallout series ?
also, no hate, but not every idea in the actual Fallout games are incredibly well thought out either
Based on one of the greatest video game series of all time, Fallout is the story of haves and have-nots in a world in which there’s almost nothing left to have. 200 years after the apocalypse, the gentle denizens of luxury fallout shelters are forced to return to the irradiated hellscape their ancestors left behind — and are shocked to discover ...
comes out in Apr (11th?)
Fallout 3 while it was my favourite game at one point leaves a lot to be desired looking back at it
So does New Vegas, albeit a lot better than Fallout 3
I will not talk about FO4 however, silly game for many reasons
I think they nailed the theme, whether or not it's actually a good show ultimately depends on the quality of the plot & writing, not whether its 100% faithful to every concept protrayed in the game
i could never get the hype about New Vegas
for me its Fallout 3 = Fallout 4 > New Vegas and i will die on this hill
The RPG elements of Vegas were better than FO3, the actual characters and story as a whole were also better
new vegas goated
but yeah we'll see
amazon can either fuck everything up or make it giga good (the boys vs wheel of time or w.e the name was, or lotr)
F3 and NV were kinda mirrors to me
- The main story of Fallout 3 was actually pretty good (if a bit campy), while the side content was way too slim
- the main story of NV started strong, but quickly fell flat after reaching the Strip for the first time, but the side content was really good
I havent ever finished f3
Just kinda too boring idk
but I played nv like 3 times thoroughly
love the game
like the opening of FNV is fantastic, and then it just... abandons everything
f3 seemed a bit too empty idk if that's just me
like actually catching up with Benny should have been a huge moment, but ended up being lame af
It was amazing when it came out. As a fallout 1/2 fan it was like what phantom menace did to starwars
both of them had pretty great DLC though
there are mods now to combine them
But as I got older, I just started seeing the flaws that I didn't pay attention to as a kid, that I thought Vegas either didn't have, or just did better
Not that Vegas was flawless either
Yeah bethesda games were so good back then, but now the bar is higher, and bethesda just didnt keep up. I honestly think starfield is a better game, but just not as good as other games these days.
at least the DLC's for FNV were fun.
Both games had great DLC
Lonesome Road (loved Ulysses) and Honest Hearts both were great in NV, OWB I don't remember too to much of, Dead Money good
Forgor name but Alien DLC in FO3 was fun and had some sick weapons if you were an energy weapons character and the characters in it too (samurai based), hillbilly DLC I loved the theme and aesthetics (vibe ig) of, The Pitt was good but maybe a bit on the lower end of my list, Anchorage fun but only really did it for the rewards mostly, Broken Steel though I like mostly because it added to the ending so you could get continuation from the main story
chatting
shut up ow2 gold dva main
is noxiv using the cataclysmic signet brand mainly for boss damage? the drawbacks seem quite heavy otherwise
i'm a widow otp

elaborate please
you are so lost
you are dirt
no I am plat
outside of combat the stacks it has gained will start to fall off, like anvil from last season
I deserve respect cretin
i was making a sexual joke
if i wait to open the dream leaf bags until i get buffed from a friend, does that work?
nope
did eu go to bed so we have skull post yet

diamond tank main 
I haven't played OW since the first time triple (or quad I don't remember) tank meta became a thing in OW1
That was the point when it truly became despair
i believe my friend was the best one trick tacer in na in s5
he was top 430 overall
for na onl playing tracer
and then anya if he really had to
sorry ana
right...
I was on liquid
for what
I was their warrior
wackywavybaze
oh yeah well
oh man that brings back memories
my cousins husband is the lead singer of mrarianash trench

and im not joking
i found that out like 4 months ago
literally josh ramsey is in my blood line
right and xan replaced reevez this tier
true
i mean if u want the truth
idk how reasl this is for video games
but i imagine years and years of playing a lot
prob fucks with u
look at faker
dudes got access to literally the best healthcare kr has to offer
and hes still getting fucked
but yeah this is just a thought on the case
chatting

What in the goddamn
when do you guys tnink s4 come out 10 april 17 april or 1 may
tiomorrow
really ?
no
i would be pretty surprised if we got it before may 21
but I also dont think we're getting tww before the middle of august
so
I think anything more than 3 months spent in s4 would be pretty bad
can u spell reflect the frontals on fyrakk?
u can deflect them but it wont deal damage
only the one that comes out of the boss I think can get deflected
not the clones one
not the copies
should be yeah
ready for 6month
we'd have to get fated right now for that to be real
and we still gonna get 1 more patch before fated
S4 should be as short as possible looking at the dungeon table
aint war within coming out in like august?
means if s4 comes out in may
we get 3 months and a half of it
tww is marketed as a summer release which means it would prob have to come out before sept 22
I'm not
Doing HoI/Nokhud or Uldaman again
Miss me with that shit
uldaman was okay-ish only because of the big pulls, other than that the dung is pretty ass
Are you CE and title holder
no but i know my limits xd
You got work to do, chop chop
i gained like 400 rating compared to end of season 2
so im on the right path
That's the right mindset
any blinks inthe chat
Phil used to be mage Main, so he blinks sometimes
We still progging fyrakk
pranked
dont u guys have phones?
I think the devs fell asleep

is that it
na it was actually just diablo news 🙃
I mostly mean that clickbaiter bazed linked
I know lol

but there actually was diablo news today, so clearly blizz was just baiting us to play D4
man my wife and I were just so depression about d4
can’t believe we bought an Xbox for it and couldn’t enjoy anything past campaign
I'd be depressed too if you were my wife
😏
idk, Diablo 4 was good for a run through, and the seasons have had some decent ideas
but there's just not enough... different for me to want to do it all over again, over and over
TBF though I feel that way about most ARPGs
it was a good ish campaign + visuals
but I would almost rather it just be a d3 expansion and nothing changed but now Lilith is here
It basically is
D4 got more people into poe lol
wow spent 4 billion dolalrsa to advertise for peo
poe2 hype
nice guyds
nice guyds
D3 endgame is infinitely better
And it's a pretty low bar
D3 actually has leaderboards which is basically the endgame
D4 leaderboard is not what we wanted at all
D3 has no endgame
it's just repeating the same handful of rift maps over and over again, which honestly I find to be the most boring thing in the world
does this give gold
D3 bosses are dogshit too
Well that is the endgame, it's scaling content
Procedurally generated
poe mapping is some zen shit
without any point to it though, and the amount of permutations is so low you stop seeing anything new after about an hour
The problem is that power creep made the highest levels trivial (it took like 10 years tbf)
d4 campaign was really well put together and fun i thought, aesthetically and music wise it was also quite nice
d4 campaign was so sleeper
I literally struggled to stay awake
was just a 50h game for me tbh
I mean if you're a person who really likes comepting on leaderboards, sure - there are definitely people who enjoy that
but for me, endlessly repeating D3 rifts is mindnumbingly boring
Idk what the "point" should be to you, but leaderboard positions is what people strive for
Same as wow
Yeah I just said that
Lorath was cool
thats about it
and the bald guy
well i think thats just problem of leaderboard being only one thing. should be variety of things
Typed at the same time
first to max lvl, fastest of this dungeon, etc
Based
thats how much I hated d4
Based
There are such achievs for getting a seasonal achiev first
PoE has its own faults, but I do appreciate the much wider breadth of endgame content
with a game as massive as d4, it's clear they focused almost all their efforts on campaign since that's what 99% of people will do and then quit
It was way less than a minute 
I get less stressed out playing poe than retail wow
PoE is chill
git gud
D4 is a decent game, but it has like nothing to do if you play games a lot
I would not call d4 massive
the game world is pretty massive tbf
d4 is absolutely massive
I thought the open world was cool
im talking about sales
Point still stands, you sent the message around 06:36:50 your time
and you sent it around 06:37:51 my time
It has no endgame
It's sad
No leaderboards and no real scaling content
D3 is just a better game
actually does have some leaderboards now
or coming, idk if they were added yet (I think gauntlet was?)
and it does have content scaling in the dungeons and stuff
serious arpg gamers just play poe or last epoch no?
such an amazing arpg
Nightmare dungeons are dogass content
Not even close to what rifts are
perhaps, but the point still stands
the builds also lack depth
Diablo 2 is still the goat
most of them cannot even be played
Diablo 1 is great too
wanna talk about a game with no endgame, Diablo 2 has entered the chat
Best part being how Last Epoch has more in common with D2 than D4 does lmao
that game is a certified hood classic
not a bad game, but on the topic of no endgame, it's kind of a principal showcase
It was another time in gaming tbf
Sure, but it's also still played today
I can forgive d2 for not haivng an endgaem tho
which goes to show how good the game is in spite of not having any endgame
Yeah cause the genre is starved for non-shit entries
So you just play the same games forever
more like keep up
I mean you don't play elden ring for its endgame
That's kinda how ARPGs are designed lol

yeah, there are a lot of games you don't
standalone experiences are just as great
but again, ARPGs are designed for that kind of repeat grind, and that's what most of its players crave
i feel like d2 is played for the same reason classic is played , only cause nostalgia is a hell of a drug
That's not the same genre
yea but im saying arpgs being good isn't based on endgame alone
which is why d1 is amazing too
If you play a repetitive farming diablo clone, it definitely matters
d2's endgame isnt that bad tho
no rest for the wicked looks insane and genre defining
for all its other faults, one of the best things about PoE is that it has an impressive breadth of content - there is just a shit load of different things to do
especially with the atlas passive tree
- Get bored of Vaal shit? Spec out of it and do more breaches
You don't play games like that for a 1 time story experience
each season and every play through can be wildly different for you, if you want it to
pretty sure thats how they were designed
and that's the real advantage of PoE over D3 or D4 - no matter what, you're always ultimately doing the same thing in those games over and over again
- if you like that thing, it's fine
- if you get bored of that thing, it falls off hard after a certain point
I mean even after it doesn't, not really
but that's fine, the game stands up well enough despite that fact
pretty sure only oldheads still play d2 after killing baal
PoE's got some insane pinnacle bosses
mostly the farm and collection aspect, which you can consider a form of endgame
but the difference between it and D3 for example, is that it caps out - past a certain point of killing Baal in 0.2s, there's no more upward mobility
so you can keep farming and maybe you get a little stronger, but there's no practical result, whereas D3 has those endlessly scaling rifts and leaderboards to continue to give you some modicum of challenge or obstacle to overcome
If you're looking for that kind of experience poe shits on D3
It does, as I outlined above - PoE has a much greater breadth of endgame content, while D3's is incredibly static
Yeah and my point is why they are not like that anymore
that's why, as you said, most people don't hardcore farm post-game in D2 unless they're a content creator going for odd challenges; they just make new characters and go agane
and a lot of people like that, but a huge number of RPG players like systems that offer virtually endless upward post-game progression - even in WoW it's a big thing now
Then why are all modern games of the genre basically designed that way
the amount of people hardcore binging D3, PoE, Last Epoch, and even D4 would beg to differ, lol
I mean clearly we're talking about within the subset of "hardcore" (read: dedicated) players, not the casual andys
yeah, if we're expanding the conversation to include ALL people who play games, then an overwhelming number of them buy the game, play 2 hours, and never touch it again
that's why Steam Trophies and achievements are like "90% of players installed the game, 0.5% beat the first boss..."
on bosses w/ intermittent ads that dont all die at the same time, like gnarlroot
should i use lego as soon as i blow cooldowns instead of waiting to cleave all my tier bonus?
I got all achieves on sekiro when it was 0.4% 😎
I think it was like a week into release
maybe
on gnarlroot and tindral, you'd ideally prefer to use the lego shortly before the adds die so that you can funnel inflated damage onto the boss
gnarlroot ads kinda die over the course of a few sec tho
well yeah it's not an exact science
just throw out your cds first, get a couple cleaves in, and then use the lego
you can also kinda turn your character position so that most of the damage goes onto the boss
where wast he twitter post with us getting ifno today
if a boss has a fat hitbox am i allowed to literally face away from it and have it still hit or is it not that generous
uhh idk I haven't really tried, but the Fyr'alath hitbox is pretty generous
it was in their "this week in wow" schedule, but blizz be doin blizz things
if S4 comes out in April the amount of ppl with CE fyrakk will prolly be a lil more or less than CE Kiljaeden
That's interesting considering how long this tier would be and how nerfed the last 3 bosses are
Wouldn't it be 7 if April?
did smoldie ever get nerfed after the threat fix ?
They nerfed seeking inferno didn't they
I thought it would be 7, mb
S2 was 6
the amount of ppl who've killed tindral is a little above CE Kj
is CE KJ the lowest amount of cutting edges?
Nah
and S1 was 5m I think
Nyalotha was long as shit
but its one of the more rare ones
p sure Uu'nat was
but tindral is harder than fyrakk
or was rather
end of expansion tiers are always the longest
Pretty sure that's Uu'nat but it's kind of a technicality
I killed mythic Uu'nat (1 year after it was relevant
)
I wasn't raiding 8.1
One of my biggest regrets in this game
more people definitely played in bfa than now
Not a lot cause you needed bis from BoD afaik
Which was the same tier
not anymore 😬
even way more if were talking about Legion
washed up and proud of it
still prob more prog than ill ever have
Alliance HoF 
Uunat just came out way too late
I don't think it really mattered for Uu'nat lol
You're probably right lol
good thing that there are no factions anymore
the only thing worse than an alliance player is a faction swapping player
Cause the guild was alliance in Legion, but we switched in BfA, I just can't remember when; I think it was around the start
be loyal dammit
no
actually there was a really good meme about it, because me and one other person were like diehard stay alliance, and the rest didn't gaf
id love not to get fated season at all 🙂
im waiting for 4 expansions from now when we get another real horde v alliance storyline so i can burn another tree
we will 100% have fated lol
And have 5 more months of S3?
ik
i want to be DISCRIMINATORY
is arms hard to palyu
Is fury still the go to for PvE?
Never understood favoring a faction
or just not making low effort seasons and release new expac/content
No
for pad dmg yes for ST no
nice
Depends on the context, both specs are fine
I'd prefer to have an actual S4 as well but we're evidently not getting that anymore
ahh ok I have always been an arms enjoyer but I have not really played this xpac
that was only cool before 2011
so I was gonna boost and play this weekend
found it - someone in guild made it, though I don't remember who anymore
max is acting real sus
i started playing end of legion, so start of bfa was my first expansion launch
i am forever brainwashed into hating the alliance
like he knows its about to drop
arms is great on fyrakk since p1 dmg doesnt matter
yea, and its my right not to be happy with that
Sure
I'd be fine with 2 more months of S3
But considering that, I'd prefer to have Fated drop if it means that or the alternative rn of no new content whatsoever for 5 months
its fucking 12:11, just drop the news
weird
Arms is better for pushing boss damage, Fury just kinda pads adds now
i did really well in my 6 pulls i was in last night
but arms is cringe rn
thye told me they were extremely impressed
it's not hard to play, but you'll definitely need some practice
i didnt die and did mechanics
without even knowing what thye were
so they asked if i could fill tonight for an hour bc someone is missing
you might want to learn mechanics if you're progging mythic
bro ranged never baited the cleaves for our first 40 pulls
Haven't seen this be the case before 
fyi you will be kinda squishy as arms
idk what that means, but ok
gonna get used pressing healthstones and healthpots regularly
ya i do that
in m+ already
if u dont ure trolling
maximize the chance of success by living
and less stress on healers on an 19
meanwhile fury just tanks 
this mf gets in mythic raids as 473 and idk how to go past 4m when im geared 
I'm just 
wait wtf 473
Pretty sure bomani was Hof a long time ago
just join CE guild lol
ya i was
its that easy
kinda is
i also only played ranged
Bomani is def getting carried by friends or something
Oh I assumed you were on an old guild with people you know
Cool
using myt old logs
are u the guy that bonded with GM over anime? i remember vaguely
probably i love anime
alot of people love anime in this discord xd
i should not be in for m fyrak tonight btw just to be clear
im using fking egg
but some ppl have inrl problems
Damn that's crazy
also i wanted to play pally but they asked if i could do wariror
i wanted to be the next bm hunter ( ret paladin)
ret isnt melee tho
it also better
the next instant cast "melee"
tbf
i also dont really care what i paly as long as i do well and have a spot to raid

based tbh
should i try arms again
i only play wow to play well and kill bosses
All my homies hate arms 
well, i enjoy friendships too
that shit ws SPCIY


