#fury
sullen dove
wraith wharf
archi calling out exploiters on wowhead main page, based.
dense elbow
Am I going crazy, or wasn't that a thing in early DF already?
Though, love to see pressure being put out there, hopefully enough to fix the issue.
And this time for good, hopefully 
edgy widget
Am I going crazy, or wasn't that a thing in early DF already?
Though, love to se...
there was a similar exploit in Vault, but as far as I'm aware everyone involved was quickly actioned
it also came up in the Aberrus race, and most people were actioned, but at least a couple I know of survived
chilly plume
Is ashes worth using at all? I have champion signet and heroic ember of nullification and sim is saying Ashes/Ember of nullifcation are my best options
dense elbow
Lets hope the leaks gets fixed. Tho, I hope some slip the net
Trust in the Sims for now, then start minmaxing for real at max Ilvl. Always check sources like warcraft logs for tech
edgy widget
idk that the vault exploit was related to torghast, though I'm certain the aberrus on was
but they were also different methods from the shadowlands exploit
slim coral
true
dense elbow
From all I remember from discussions in passing, was them talking about buffs and that is all I cared to bring with me. Apparently free Rio though.
Just not my jam, if it didn't buff OF directly.
Buff OF plx, 51% baseline 
young swan
Is ashes worth using at all? I have champion signet and heroic ember of nullific...
it has some nich use for fights like tindral where our timings are basically 2 minutes and on gnarlroot where the damage amp comes at 2min but other than that its pretty mud
dense elbow
Btw, everyone should give Archi a wowhead click and view. Scroll the page a bit up and down. Good content should be rewarded with interactions 
young swan
ooo we get tww updates later today right
sullen dove
young swan
dont clueless me fish boy
young swan
friday
sullen dove
whys silver junkrat yappin at me
"
sullen dove
that is today
sullen dove
not for LOSERS i think u meant to say
young swan
(fake place)
modest condor
timezones are a social construct
young swan
real we should just all operate on UTC
modest condor
fr
bitter palm
na lmao
junior gale
man I sure love farm this tier Tswift and Fyrakk feeling like prog even after the 3rd kill
young swan
yeah its sick
dapper goblet
@cold jolt voodoo upon u
cold jolt
that last key i did was prob ur fault for voodooing me @dapper goblet
sullen dove
sullen dove
so when r they nerfing dream rends
mechanic too hard i guess
cant dodge ball and lines at the same time
upbeat sentinel
Archim just let us witch hunt
misty edge
he's afraid of getting Bazed
dapper goblet
I haven’t been voodod once by xeos this tier he must love me
powerful voodoo upon you
the most powerful strongest
hallow sphinx
fair oasis
i mean there's no way they somehow factor in the extra crit % that comes from prescience that gives us faster OF and things like this right
so in some ways aug is contributing dam to us that they arent getting back
indigo quarry
There should be a list about all the spell that are bugged somewhere
fair oasis
yes i understand some are bugged. i jsut cant imagine that's one that they can possible factor in
crits we're gaining on BT/BB that we get from the extra 3% that contributes to fast OF
indigo quarry
Why would it factor something so rng
You could high roll or not this one
Thsy get the dps from it but showing the gain on cdr thats not realistic
cold jolt
where warrior
me
om the allmight of warriors
AUTISM SMASH
boom 45 million blood thirst crit
str8 to fyrakks dome
fleet sorrel
right..
indigo quarry
dapper goblet
right..
sudden tusk
cold jolt
ya i am worth it thanks
mom bought me pizza today
would she do that if i wasnt worth it??
eternal sundial
Probably
south kayak
flat river
Poison pizza
cold jolt
yeah honestly probably
fleet sorrel
anyways
flat river
"anyways" XD
Honestly i think GalaStronk the Chef would make a really good mod
Like tbh
eternal sundial
No one else thinks that
flat river
No one else thinks that
I feel the talent builds i cook are on the same level as Archimtiros's
Maybe even better
Tbh
eternal sundial
I feel the talent builds i cook are on the same level as Archimtiros's
🐍
eternal sundial
dapper goblet
Honestly i think GalaStronk the Chef would make a really good mod
would love some non afk blue people
flat river
My first supporter
eternal sundial
🐮👨🌾👑
flat river
https://tenor.com/view/treyreloaded-gif-25910669
They call me the chef for a reason
That is a cute dog though
Ramadan Mubarak for everyone who celebrates it btw
eternal sundial
They call me the chef for a reason
No one does
flat river
Maybe you don't, but someone somewhere in the world does
fast gull
Ramadan Mubarak for everyone who celebrates it btw
awww ok you get my vote too now 🙂
flat river
:D
final birch
No one does
barren dagger
We get another update on s4 today don’t we?
How long did people take to complete lego quest?
slim pollen
6 and a half hour from drop to equiped 😄
chrome plover
skill issue
calm mantle
Where is a good place to use rageheart on fury?
No one in guild needed it so i sniped it from my raid
calm mantle
Any point using it in lower keys? Like shitty tyrannical keys
calm mantle
Like im pushing towards 26's and I thought maybe useful in Waycrest for tree boss and such
bitter palm
nah
final birch
Any point using it in lower keys? Like shitty tyrannical keys
If it sims better, use it
Generally you dont need rageheart on warrior defensively till very high
Much higher than 26
Rageheart is 99% there for oneshots and warrior (both dps specs) is very good against oneshots
flat river
Or full warrior runs
Or am i yapping
Guys i had a dream that next xpac warriors were always top dps on meters
blissful kestrel
Drill sergeant support spec warrior
flat river
Real
flat river
BiS
Replace all out abilities with shouts
Shout thirst
Raging shout
Shoutage
Shoutlessness
:D
slim pollen
You went for "Shout thirst" instead of "Blood shout"? 😬
slim pollen
😂
clever path
is there anything is should focus on?
flat river
As in what
clever path
fury stats trinkets etc etc
flat river
Get more vers
calm mantle
Stat distribution is just simming, but definitely more vers but your stat distribution makes it seem you're still kinda low ilvl
flat river
He's 472 though
clever path
i cant even get those darn splintered sparks to drop
I could switch some gems
do i knock off some strenght for vers
i mean crit
not str
eternal sundial
is there anything is should focus on?
Get might of the ocean and either augury or vers ember from brh
shy knot
My 476 vers/mast neck outsims 483 haste/mast tf
eternal sundial
Vers good
eternal sundial
Rip
empty sky
Question... whenever I look at the top raid parses, I see everyone running vers gems while all the guides say you need mastery. Any reason behind this?
eternal sundial
Sims better
empty sky
Then why go Mastery gems?
eternal sundial
Well it depends on your gear a ton
For me mast sims better but i have a lot of vers on my gear
empty sky
eternal sundial
For others it can be the other way
You wanna replace that trinket and get lego
Both brand and lego make vers better
bitter fable
Question... whenever I look at the top raid parses, I see everyone running vers ...
Mastery Increases our dmg when in enrage
Versa is a flat increase but also DMG reduction so my guess is the parses you're looking just value survivability more
eternal sundial
Mastery Increases our dmg when in enrage
Versa is a flat increase but also DMG ...
Damage parses do the complete opposite
empty sky
Mastery Increases our dmg when in enrage
Versa is a flat increase but also DMG ...
Nah these are top parses. Feels like they want maximum damage to get top parse
eternal sundial
You stand in shit for more dam if anything
bitter fable
Huh was thinking in the way of survive longer -don't die- do more but eh
eternal sundial
Huh was thinking in the way of survive longer -don't die- do more but eh
If you die on a reclear it's not ur vers %s fault 99% of the time
empty sky
If you die on a reclear it's not ur vers %s fault 99% of the time
Lol true
clever path
switched enchants and gems
eternal sundial
Did that sim best
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/995331717676142682/1217548976853880902/image.png?ex=66046dd9&is=65f1f8d9&hm=ab48ad103c6c834a399a79097154652a4afac081356f8e63c94e964621d2953b& stats are cope just sim
clever path
idk how to sim
summer quail
what ilvl are you? might just be me but looking at your stats are you lower than 480?
sour frigate
switched enchants and gems
ure far from big ilvl so it doesnt matter at all
summer quail
@clever path
eternal sundial
I mean yea he's 472 im 489
eternal sundial
shouldn't think about stats
40 40 10 10
final birch
at all
summer quail
honestly if he's 472 i wouldnt even bother simming or giving a shit about stats
sour frigate
minmaxing at 470 is...
final birch
40 40 10 10
but 10 mastery is impossible...
clever path
I need to make big damage to get into groups
eternal sundial
but 10 mastery is impossible...
On arm im at 40 40 15 20 which is kinda banger
final birch
so 40 40 10 10 is a lie..
eternal sundial
Last tier it wasnt
final birch
486 you mean
meh u need a COUPLE of vaults for that
sour frigate
or ...
final birch
meh
as long as you're 485
you're fine doing any content
unless it's like wf keys
eternal sundial
More ilvl more dam more fun
empty sky
Equip/adjust what's better 🙂
eternal sundial
You did topgear right?
You can copy the link if you wanna share the number or have a question about gearing etc
clever path
its confusing
empty sky
Share the link
clever path
ehh w/e just gonna stack stats evenly
eternal sundial
Do you want the best gear or nah
radiant plank
I need to make big damage to get into groups
What happend to this kek
vague copper
😛
clever path
Yes i do my rotation perfectly already
clever path
ill just try to get stats be evenly spread
radiant plank
eternal sundial
ill just try to get stats be evenly spread
Me when 30 vers 30 mast 30 haste 30 crit
radiant plank
Yes i do my rotation perfectly already
Statement and a half when we can look up your logs kek
clever path
cool
final birch
well you came here for help
and halfway through
you stopped caring
and started saying how you're already playing perfectly
idk
xd
eternal sundial
Crazy hamburger no logged fury kill?!!
empty sky
Then share the link
clever path
what link
final birch
of the website
whatever you got
wherever you're stuck
people are here to help
if you cant say what's confusing
nobody can help you
empty sky
You can share the raidbot link so we can see what has been simmed
final birch
you dont know how to sim
empty sky
and we can help you
final birch
or you dont know what to do with results
slim pollen
I suggest you check out a video guide on how to sim first, then come back for deeper questions after getting the basics
clever path
empty sky
Share the URL please
clever path
empty sky
Lol
eternal sundial
Now scroll down and select some enchants
And then press the sim button
It's green
clever path
Top Gear requires at least two combinations. Make sure to select some additional items, enhancements, or talents
final birch
so lets start with a simple task
vague copper
final birch
select 1 extra ring
so you have 3 rings selected
then scroll down
choose "patchwerk"
vague copper
Like that for enchants on ring
final birch
"1 boss"
eternal sundial
Or select replace existing so it can change ur enchants
final birch
"5 mins"
and then sim
and you're gonna see your first result of how it works
you dont need to understand the in-depth just make sure you know the basics of it for now
when you do that, you can share the link of your result here
clever path
This is too hard for me :C
clever path
is there a step by step guide with pictures
final birch
is everything you can choose from: all rings weapons and armor in your bags/bank + vault if you havent chosen your rewrad
to start understanding it slowly you can click on 1 additional item from the picture you've sent (ANYTHING, it's irrelevant what)
and then click on the button "find top gear"
eternal sundial
is there a step by step guide with pictures
Critcake made a video on simming
That can help
bitter fable
^
radiant plank
clever path
so where do i see what stats i should change
vague copper
Now you have to mark an item on the start to compare for exemple another weapon or boots
final birch
ok so whatever is shown now right here
is the bis setup from your options
but that's irrelevant for now
you saw how it works
now go ahead and select some more choices
make sure this box is checked
and then select different gems/enchants
this will provide you information on what you should be gemming/enchanting for now (though, like I said - doing actual sims is detrimental till you're 483/484, this is only good so you can learn how this system works)
final birch
what
really
pog
For now you dont have plenty of options to choose from (you can change 1 finger, boots and a trinket) so don't expect any fancy results
final birch
There are more options when it comes to simming, like these: fury generally sims 1target in a 5minute scenario, but for some specific encounters some classes/specs might use different simming scenarios (certain trinkets gain value the longer the fight is so they wont perform that well on short encounters but on long like fyrakk they will gain immense value), you can also change the weapon rune, flask etc in sims based on what you're playing in pve content and see if there is a different option that performs better
however I wouldn't concern myself with that if I were you, for now
I just wanted to show you how there's more than just selecting gear you have in bags
If you want, you can have fun for now and try to do some different sims and see for yourself what is it capable of or just get some more gear and then do it, but for dont think about the results too much, simply following stat priority from wowhead and talents copied from there is more than you'll need anytime soon
indigo quarry
There are more options when it comes to simming, like these: fury generally sims...
Tldr
indigo quarry
final birch
you'll figure it out sooner or later, as long as you got the basics now you're fine
empty sky
Somehow my Myth Serpent outsims my Hero Might of the Ocean. Is this correct, or are the on-use trinkets a bit off? -> https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eAu6oJEYCCBWoh4S5Q55e2
empty sky
But somehow everyone runs it on the top parses :/
Yeah, I don't have brand yet unfortunately.
eternal sundial
But somehow everyone runs it on the top parses :/
Cuz of the killtimers
empty sky
But I see everyone running Augury with Moto
eternal sundial
Brand is meh for short kills
mossy fox
moto is a burst/aoe/allrounder trinket
silent burrow
smolderon isn't same
final birch
smoldy is long-ish fight
eternal sundial
Smolderon is a damage amp
empty sky
moto is a burst/aoe/allrounder trinket
So would you prefer Hero Moto over Myth Serpent?
silent burrow
Because your on use lines up with all of the damage amps
eternal sundial
Serpent crinj
summer quail
So would you prefer Hero Moto over Myth Serpent?
yes forsure, serpent is so garbage
empty sky
This is Volcoross. Same picture here.
silent burrow
Yeah look at the kill time
empty sky
Yeah, that's why I included both Smolderon and Volc in here.
silent burrow
This is fyrakk
Turns out different trinkets are good on different fights and kill times
mossy fox
smolderon has a damage amp phase that lines up with your 1.5min cds
thats what makes moto good there
but hey, aug signet still parsed higher there despite thst
eternal sundial
Augury just generally insane cuz proc gamba
high basin
my augury did 11 mil on smolderon last week
silent burrow
Augury can go hard as fuck on smolderon
empty sky
smolderon has a damage amp phase that lines up with your 1.5min cds
Right, so just stick with Moto on overlapping cd fights and switch to Serpent when that's not the case and wait until I get my signet ^^
summer quail
only fight that applies to is nymue and even then i would run moto over serpent
empty sky
Hm alright so in that case switch to Moto until I receive my signet lol
Is there a macro list/channel somewhere? Can't seem to find it.
summer quail
don't think so, but the only really useful macro except things like mouseover kick is the stance swap macro
eternal sundial
Dont need any macros for fury rn
silent burrow
Stance swap is real nice, spear at feet is real nice, obviously mouseovers
Once we get hero talents, mouseover intervene might be back on the menu too depending on which thing comes out on top
flat river
Ok guys let me cook
hasty path
Ok guys let me cook
No
ancient quiver
I had a cook where at the time it was a gain for me to equip a 1h and a 2h
ancient quiver
Lol
It had 1 point in the 1h nodes not the aa one
I'm a street vendor I just leave when the inspectors comd
fleet sorrel
red yew
mossy fox
brittle crow
I had a cook where at the time it was a gain for me to equip a 1h and a 2h
please do not cook again
dire badge
mossy fox
depending on your weapons a fyrakk 1h in offhand with a 2h mainhand can sometimes sim higher
brittle crow
depending on your weapons a fyrakk 1h in offhand with a 2h mainhand can sometime...
ive got a myth gnarl 2h so i dont think ill be gholak enjoyer anytime soon unfort
mossy fox
it's not in any bis profiles or anything
i just remember having a 483 or 489 mainhand with a 476 offhand
a 483 gholak offhand simmed higher then
brittle crow
ive got lego and bonecrusher and augury i just need to get might of the ocean and im straight raidlogging
😴
tbf im raidlogging rn i just think about going for might sometimes
ancient quiver
depending on your weapons a fyrakk 1h in offhand with a 2h mainhand can sometime...
That's what it was 2h 1h was still better then fyrak and Butcher's 1h 1h
chilly verge
Btw whats the best mode to sim fury for m+?
oblique trail
Just use patchwerk 5 min 1 target with your M+ talents and trinkets
ancient quiver
I had a low ilvl other 2h that was poo
oblique trail
Whatever sims best in an ST scenario for Fury, is basically equally as good in AoE
chilly verge
Whatever sims best in an ST scenario for Fury, is basically equally as good in A...
Alright thanks
eternal sundial
Dont you wanna
livid void
Is fyr’alath’s on use a frontal cone or aoe around you? Also will it instantly apply the dot to any target attacked or does it have a high random chance of applying the dot? For instance if I hit ww or odyns fury will it instantly apply the dot to every target that was hit?
livid void
Ty
eternal sundial
So ww is all u gotta do to apply
iron portal
Cause you are mostly psyduck
eternal sundial
Cause you are mostly psyduck
I have different psyducks
iron portal
But still a psyduck
oblique trail
Also a large pfp folder
Growth has slowed down recently
eternal sundial
I get bullied it i use something other than psyduck
iron portal
Im technically correct
eternal sundial
So i dont get to use the unhinged shit
oblique trail
I remember when Phil was intervene
summer quail
i don't recognize phil without the psyducks
eternal sundial
I remember when Phil was intervene
Spongo said everyone with wow spec as icon is bad ( @ critical strike cakus)
eternal sundial
i don't recognize phil without the psyducks
I wish i never got to see chav shart again
iron portal
I remember when Phil was intervene
Prob have some screenshots of that
summer quail
I wish i never got to see chav shart again
don't worry, i will soon change. just need to figure out what to
iron portal
And prob like 30 different of your pfps too Bane
eternal sundial
don't worry, i will soon change. just need to figure out what to
Gale with ear tunnels
Remember erga old pfp
The red one gladjj
iron portal
The ones cursed with knowledge remember it all
narrow narwhal
I will return tomorrow to see if banezi has a new pfp as I have opted to take a break from wow
oblique trail
I found multiple new pics yesterday
eternal sundial
You dont have to play wow to shitpost in skyhold
oblique trail
Need to vet them to see if good pfp material
eternal sundial
It's preferable to not play tbh
eternal sundial
Need to vet them to see if good pfp material
Do you remember the spongie pfp test arc
oblique trail
I do with blåhaj
eternal sundial
Rezz cover one
clever path
I need a new pfp
eternal sundial
I do with blåhaj
I dont remember that one sadly
indigo arch
Multiple months of s3 yet only to basically go right back to s1 m+ rotation, why even play
fast gull
we set loot spec for arms in raid right?
oblique trail
You always have Arms lootspec
fast gull
thx
oblique trail
Unless you for some reason want 1handers for prot
iron portal
Bacause SMF is stinky still
eternal sundial
I need a new pfp
This one
iron portal
Cursed
eternal sundial
Multiple months of s3 yet only to basically go right back to s1 m+ rotation, why...
Not like that's an unfun thing
Right?
indigo arch
Surely not.
oblique trail
nya
indigo arch
Kinda feel jebaited, started killing h fyrakk late, only to still not have it and also know that I'll have to play s1 again if I wanna use it
Getting the axe, that is
untold moth
S4 starting in early may or we getting it even earlier?
summer quail
we do not know
untold moth
Cope with me
I only have a 91% cumulative chance to get the axe if i clear heroic every week though the end of April
civic jay
Hit me fury fam - Tindrall prog.
When's the best time to use fiery axe boi
untold moth
Heroic leap ftw
modest condor
no
rigid stirrup
Surely slayer drops today 🙏
silent burrow
no augery no leggo
Do you have pips
oblique trail
Surely slayer drops today 🙏
If today was Friday maybe but it's not
amber arch
I've got Myth Might, Myth Ember, hero signet, hero crap, hero rezans
amber arch
Do you have pips
nope
rigid stirrup
What's so special about Friday ban
oblique trail
It's when they reveal the next hero talents
modest condor
today is a different announcement
rigid stirrup
Ah I could've sworn hero talents were put under today's
wanton mirage
I've got Myth Might, Myth Ember, hero signet, hero crap, hero rezans
Go with mythic ember and might. easy choice
rigid stirrup
Just double checked
amber arch
Go with mythic ember and might. easy choice
ya thats what I've been going with
these are all my choices
silent burrow
You chose wisely
rigid stirrup
489 ember and might is really solid options actually
amber arch
ya I was stoked to get it in vault a few weeks ago the ember
bit of a boring trinket but it does the job
25% vers is nice too
would Pips beat out ember?
rigid stirrup
Well the higher you go the more value the vers gives
Sim it is the usual answer for these things
But in my personal opinion they aren't turbo gapping your current ones in keys to warrant the idea of replacing
amber arch
ya but I find it hard to Sim for keys
rigid stirrup
Your only for sure upgrade is an augury
amber arch
like I usually sim dungeon slice, ST, 5bosses and 8 bosses and they all give similar stuff
amber arch
Your only for sure upgrade is an augury
all levels? Worth running LFR or not
rigid stirrup
That is a Sim angle for lfr version
amber arch
kk
oblique trail
Compared to your current trinkets I'd only replace Ember with a HC Augury
I had an LFR Augury but it was straight dookie
amber arch
7%
hasty path
6 + 5 = 11
left perch
I will never get
rigid stirrup
So theory crafting for fated I'd assume we would still be rocking fated versions of augury and brand?
oblique trail
Depends on context, but we'd also get trinkets like Icon and Puzzle back
silent burrow
Hard to tell. We don't even know if we will be doing DF raids tbh, they could do something else
oblique trail
OCE as well
oblique trail
There'll be a lot of actually good trinkets to go for in next season
rigid stirrup
Stat sticks 
silent burrow
Imagine they come out of left field with no df raids
I heard there was a mogushun vaults found with high ilvl gear but I haven't seen
modest condor
So theory crafting for fated I'd assume we would still be rocking fated versions...
if it's gonna be anything like shadowlands then brand will fall off hard with how quick bosses will die with affixes
left perch
I heard there was a mogushun vaults found with high ilvl gear but I haven't seen
oh shit
mossy fox
didnt oce get nerfed going into s3
i think icon was untouched?
my memory sucks so might be wrong
summer quail
yes
rigid stirrup
I didn't play during shadowlands fated so idk how the affixes worked with the raids. Is it a kiss curse thing?
oblique trail
Some of the affixes gave you giga dam
summer quail
oce nerf was pretty small so idk if that changes things tho
silent burrow
But we don't know if it will be the same as it was in sl
idk if we will be getting torghast powers or any of that
mossy fox
imagine they didnt learn and they make another one that causes insane lag
modest condor
by the end of fated mythic bosses were getting killed in like a minute or something
rigid stirrup
So it would be possible for ce guilds to just plow through the raids every week?
silent burrow
Motes 
oblique trail
So it would be possible for ce guilds to just plow through the raids every week?
Basically yes
summer quail
Motes <:Pepexecute:595606525272391710>
afflock xD
rigid stirrup
Okay sick so it really is the for fun season
oblique trail
It's a filler season yeah
Don't think they care much about balance, if at all, during it
silent burrow
Yeah but we legit know zero about it so who knows what they will give us
oblique trail
Didn't play in Fated so idk if they made balance changes during it
Other than maybe tune some of the fated specific stuff
silent burrow
I quit a few weeks into it
rigid stirrup
I just hope I can get to whatever the max ilvl is so I can hang it up before tww
silent burrow
The double affix was enough for me
rigid stirrup
In like a quick manor
summer quail
Didn't play in Fated so idk if they made balance changes during it
not during fated i don't think, but i swear fob got changed coz of fated
summer quail
ye changed before df launch
modest condor
there were definitely balance changes during fated
oblique trail
Don't think it was because of Fated though
modest condor
big destro nerfs
silent burrow
destro nerfs was a carryover from s3 tho wasn't it
summer quail
yes, they planned to nerf destro in s3 but guilds were relying on it to kill bosses
rigid stirrup
I hope that system that let's us upgrade our Lego to s4 ilvl is there. I heard that was a fated shadowlands thing
modest condor
there was yeah
but even if we cant upgrade it itll still likely be the best offhand
gilded pawn
watch BLP still applying to S4
but you cant get it dropped cuz you own a copy already
so you have to kill fated fyrakk with your leggo deleted first
silent burrow
Much more likely we just get an upgrade item
open prairie
tbh idk how the active even works
open prairie
is it like dh hunt where anything between you and the target gets hit?
sinful spoke
And it does dmg
modest condor
no it's just a frontal cone
it charges you to the enemy first and then starts doing damage
open prairie
its uncapped from the sound of it
mossy fox
the use will deal more damage the more targets you have, it's pretty good damage
open prairie
oh each mark is another 10?
mossy fox
higher end of total dmg has been like 3.5m for me
and highest single target use has been maybe 1.1m (ignoring damage amps ofc)
yeah each mark adds more damage to the use
if you can activate the use just before a bunch of fodder mobs die or out of range of the fodder mobs, you can effectively funnel into prio target(s)
modest condor
any 1.5mil crits on tindral
modest condor
you consume the dots on use
it doesnt matter what happens to the mobs that were dotted afterwards
you already got the bonus
mossy fox
you drain the stacks the moment you press it, and it's the final blow at the end of the cast that deals big dmg
open prairie
yeah
modest condor
it's not like traditional split damage effects where it does 15% more damage for every target it hits
open prairie
wings buffs it?
modest condor
yeah
since it directly increases their crit stat
whereas reck just increases our ability's chance to crit
which is an important difference
mossy fox
at the very least our enrage haste makes the cast a lot faster
open prairie
oh i was gonna say pretty sure direct % amps dont affect class abilities
mossy fox
we also stack a lot of vers, that helps
mossy fox
you consume the moment you activate
so if fodder mobs are at 1% and you pressed leggo you're good
summer quail
target dying mid channel very bad, cancels the channel
ancient quiver
U dying mid channel also does I've heard
mossy fox
yeah
one very nice use of the weapon (and easy to setup) is 1st boss everbloom
pull 2 packs of petals on to boss, dont kill them before dmg phase, then use leggo on only boss
mossy fox
i had a 4.8m use on that first boss EB in my +30 run last week
you could also theoretically mark 50 bats in brh and use leggo on 3rd boss, but dont think anyone actually does that
south kayak
slim coral
Yall ready for 10.2.6 today “supposedly”
ancient quiver
meager gyro
sign me up daddy @slim coral
modest condor
yeah
some games depict crits with a skull icon
so when their server infrastructure got a crit they showed a skull
low folio
i had heard that second wind works even when affected by bursting, i havnt tried it yet. is that true?
fading sky
I habe leggp
modest condor
i had heard that second wind works even when affected by bursting, i havnt tried...
yes
fading sky
Question the draining pf marks arent bound by range?
low folio
does it work against the waycrest manors tree boss stun?
fading sky
Or is there a ranfe ish
hasty path
some games depict crits with a skull icon
It’s actually specifically the slayer tree that comes with 10.2.6 and will be revealed to be identical to the slayer from path of exile, as there is no other instance where the term “slayer” has ever been used
low folio
i had people trying to tell me that keys wouldnt have timers anymore in season 4 but i hadnt seen the post about dungeons yet so it had me worried for a moment
gilded pawn
someone feding youfake news
modest condor
It’s actually specifically the slayer tree that comes with 10.2.6 and will be re...
slayer is actually a bard spec where you use music to buff your group
true sapphire
Big if true
modest condor
it uses electric guitar as weapon
true sapphire
Sub price going up 18% to pay for licensing fees.
hasty path
i had people trying to tell me that keys wouldnt have timers anymore in season 4...
They misunderstood the post from the other day
mossy fox
it uses electric guitar as weapon
better be a talent node called raining blood
fleet sorrel
clever belfry
stop sleeping on the job vil
mossy fox
he's actually deadge
hasty path
stop sleeping on the job vil
I’m gonna be madge if the updates don’t come at noon bc I’m not taking a lunch nap so I can see them
clever belfry
bro i dont even know
what updates people are talking about
im just vibin
i attac
fleet sorrel
brain updates
true sapphire
So people just losing it over blue post anticipation?
slim coral
I mean yeah it’s late in the patch
craggy river
its a boss drop so should still drop
gloomy pollen
hello can someone friendly tell me if this rotation good for raids?
modest condor
that's not a rotation that's a screenshot of your skillbars
we dont use onslaught currently
and impending victory is not a rotational ability that's a healing ability
hasty path
I didn't play sod fated so <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
We farmed Sylvanas mount non-fated during fated season
true sapphire
We aren't using onslaught, and impending victory is a situational use
gloomy pollen
what do you need to tell me?
true sapphire
Check the pins.
hasty path
We farmed Sylvanas mount non-fated during fated season
As in: you could toggle fated on/off with a little control panel. As well as originally it was a weekly fated raid rotation where only one raid was scaled up per week
So we just went in and killed 9.1 SoD for the mounts but got 250 loot or whatever the iLvl was
Instead of fated loot
hasty path
I could definitely be misremembering that part
But I definitely killed non-fated Sylvanas during fated
The means of getting there… not sure
modest condor
yeah for the first 2 months or so it rotated
a different raid every week
then at the end they turned it on for all raids at the same time
hasty path
then at the end they turned it on for all raids at the same time
Thought you could still turn it off but IDFK
I’m sure this season will have some differences anwhay
left perch
I thought there was a thing to turn it ON
hasty path
I thought there was a thing to turn it ON
The console definitely let you turn on/off additional affixes
left perch
like post rotation then you could just do anyone you wanted
hasty path
I don’t recall if it let you turn off the entire fated mode
left perch
tbh I never pressed I was just zug pug
hasty path
Ya I didn’t mess it it either which is why I’m inclined to think silm may be right
I was just raider
Not raid lead
left perch
I remember the rotation and “a switch that did something”
gloomy pollen
And whats better T30 talents or T31 talents? Sorry for this questions but im not very good at analyses
modest condor
if you have the current tierset you use T31, otherwise you use T30
hasty path
I remember the rotation and “a switch that did something”
I also remember the Modes going brrrrr
Motes?
gloomy pollen
Okay and what most ppl prefer multitarget or single target?
left perch
Motes went hella brr
modest condor
i remember just having my new pc at the time and everybody was complaining about fps issues on the motes whil i was here like lalalala
hasty path
i remember just having my new pc at the time and everybody was complaining about...
Some fights were particularly cancerous
Like imagine motes on tindral
💀
modest condor
i only had fps issues on tindral in the first 2 weeks or so
because of addons/weakauras not being updated yet
fiery jetty
Hello all, somebody here could if i can put a link of my key?... i want urs tips for my warrior
fiery jetty
i wanna be better
modest condor
before this i was on some 2012 pc that occasionally got an upgrade here and there when something started having issues
fiery jetty
<#449510248579858432>
really thanks
modest condor
i had 0 fps on lihuvim when the adds were up
hasty path
before this i was on some 2012 pc that occasionally got an upgrade here and ther...
I’ve upgraded storage and cpu since 2017
modest condor
at that point i was like you know maybe it's time for a new pc
fiery jetty
<#449510248579858432>
could i put a link there?
hasty path
could i put a link there?
Yes and just put that it’s fury
fiery jetty
is a link from youtube
fiery jetty
let me see if is log
modest condor
i mean when it comes to dungeons you kinda want both
hasty path
i mean when it comes to dungeons you kinda want both
Depends what you’re lookng for but ye
iron portal
i only had fps issues on tindral in the first 2 weeks or so
Denathrius
hasty path
i had 0 fps on lihuvim when the adds were up
Also ngl I think Lihuvim motes might’ve been the most toxic thing
fiery jetty
how can i get a lost logs?
modest condor
you cant
nocturne dragon
rageheart is always nice 😄
mossy fox
we'll be trying +32 AD tomorrow, i'm scared of yazma
probably an icy pres angle, leaves me at 52k health
misty bison
guys I need your oppinions, I FINALLY got the lego, when do you ppl use it ? by use i mean press it
modest condor
if you can live it without icy pres then do you even need it
ancient quiver
Bro u have like 15729 more hp then u need
open prairie
guys I need your oppinions, I FINALLY got the lego, when do you ppl use it ? by ...
outside cds
mossy fox
if you can live it without icy pres then do you even need it
the adds deal some dmg back to you if you dmg them afaik
modest condor
make sure you're not double dipping on the vers flask as well
mossy fox
very afraid i'll die before i can get an IV off
modest condor
one of my teammates accidentally put in his stamina while fort buffed and then clicked fort buff in there as well
mossy fox
yeah no double dipping - this is input with the addon string
clever belfry
probably an icy pres angle, leaves me at 52k health
even then
if people aoe instantly
lmao
mossy fox
ye im dead then
clever belfry
legit gotta wait a global before pressing anything
modest condor
i guess icy pres angle it is then
also never knew how the damage from those adds worked, i knew they do damage to you but i thought it was just damage over time
clever belfry
nah its kinda mirrored dmg
modest condor
vigor is actually so broken in high keys
fiery jetty
could put a link from youtube in #449510248579858432 ?? or here?? about my warrior fury, and want tips from u if i can be better
clever belfry
quick tp out on volkaal angle
mossy fox
yeah that was the plan
modest condor
im at 30% vers without either of those trinkets, sounds like you need to find yourself some more vers gear
mossy fox
i do
modest condor
maybe craft a ring and a neck
mossy fox
health loss tho so might not make the biggest diff
summer quail
do you have the igira ring?
mossy fox
i do not
summer quail
unfortunate
modest condor
surely a couple % vers is worth more than 3 ilvl loss of stam
mossy fox
also it doesn't take into account the vers wrists does it
summer quail
vers enchants and gems?
mossy fox
yeah already got
modest condor
hmm, not sure tbh
modest condor
i've never used the addon input
summer quail
also it doesn't take into account the vers wrists does it
isn't that easy to check?
oblique trail
It is
summer quail
ye
modest condor
and you have that hallway in throne of tides where the smallies put a debuff on you that increases shadow damage taken
when they die
mossy fox
oh ohhh
summer quail
ye, i assume it would increase bursting damage as well
mossy fox
probably ye
modest condor
yeah i was thinking that
mossy fox
just means bursting with those and the aquablast casters pack is kinda banned or extremely dangerous
open prairie
neither is eb
misty bison
outside cds
tyvm
clever belfry
mh?
modest condor
(the debuff, not bursting)
proud vessel
How much haste are you guys rocking in m+?
clever belfry
swell does shadow dmg, the smallies exploding does aswell
clever belfry
How much haste are you guys rocking in m+?
stop looking for breakpoints
i BEG OF YOU
proud vessel
My sims tell me to drop haste and get more mastery but it feels weird
not looking for breakpoints
modest condor
swell does shadow dmg, the smallies exploding does aswell
yeah i could have sworn the debuff said shadow damage ingame, but on wcl it says nature damage
proud vessel
looking for comparisons
summer quail
comparisons are irrelevant
modest condor
maybe it's just wowhead tooltips being wrong again
clever belfry
Look for this
looking down
yep, balls
proud vessel
comparisons are irrelevant
still, feels like im not allowed to ask lol
Iknow there are no breakpoints and that alot of gear is valuable there is not specific build or anything but still
clever belfry
yeah i could have sworn the debuff said shadow damage ingame, but on wcl it says...
yeah ig we are all copers
proud vessel
Feels like i can barely get my second bloodbath in avatar proc window with current haste and its telling me to go even lower
clever belfry
and stacks dont matter
gilded pawn
Feels like i can barely get my second bloodbath in avatar proc window with curre...
you can get 2 bbs with 0 haste
modest condor
no shot lmao
clever belfry
you can get 2 bbs with 0 haste
i dont think that is true
0 - OF
1.5 - BB
3.0 Ramp
4.5 BB
buff falls off at 4.0
gilded pawn
im counting frenzy
modest condor
you dont actually have 0 haste
modest condor
^
clever belfry
i dont think u should count frenzy in keys
enrage is 15% tho, which is well fine to get in
modest condor
15% haste puts it at 3.9 seconds
modest condor
so just enough
gilded pawn
yeah
proud vessel
22% now
gilded pawn
you need 66% haste for all 3 in avatar window?
wait no
you need infinity amounts of haste for that
clever belfry
yeah i think
thats not a thing
cause of gcd cap
youd need
OF bb ramp bb ramp bb
well actually
that should be doable
clever belfry
0 - OF
0.75 - BB
1.5 - Ramp
2.25 - BB
3.0 Ramp
3.75 BB
we got .25s to spare
and getting gcd cap with enrage, frenzy, lust is like
okay
modest condor
wait @clever belfry im looking further into this throne debuff thing
notice how i have spell reflect up
but it says nothing was mitigated
and on the first hit where i dont have spell reflect up yet i take even more damage than it's supposed to do
clever belfry
not the unholy
2 damage types
if u know u know
on this snapshot
we should see differing values
lets see!
clever belfry
we do!
modest condor
so it does actually increase both shadow and nature
clever belfry
yea tooltip diffed
gilded pawn
gapped
indigo quarry
nice game
modest condor
the damage the debuff itself deals is nature, the damage it increases is shadow
clever belfry
why tf am i mitigating 40% on the wave of corruption
modest condor
scales?
clever belfry
well ig i had avoidance then
this lines up with avoid + scales + tiny bit of vers
yeah okay the dmg taken increase is not reflected in unmit dmg
it takes base dmg for unmit then applies mods like dmg taken increase
idk if thats worth a report on wclogs
because that is FUCKED
summer quail
the damage the debuff itself deals is nature, the damage it increases is shadow
that's so fucking weird
slim coral
Still drop in fated
yes
modest condor
anyway, now that we know it does actually increase shadow damage and it doesnt show on the unmitigated damage, time to check bursting again
this it's safe to say that it doesnt affect bursting
clever belfry
anyway, now that we know it does actually increase shadow damage and it doesnt s...
okay i talked to someone
and lets say i have a diff view on unmit now
your mitigation just goes negative
as its a modifier on you
modest condor
makes sense
clever belfry
which is how its logged aswell
which is why its displayed as it is
unmit would take into account a buff the source of the damage has
i think its a bad way to display it, but without recompute this isnt displayable
and probably not relevant enough frankly
modest condor
yeah
vexamus actually did the same
when you get the debuff from soaking orbs it doesnt show higher unmitigated damage
speaking of that
i hope they dont fix that mechanic in s4
since the orb soaks didnt scale with keylevel in s1
if they do, you're gonna die if you try to soak with 1 debuff stack