fury

[slim coral]

The ret community is so dumb holy

[oblique trail]

Implying that Skyhold is much better?

[slim coral]

100%

[sullen dove]

[slim coral]

We atleast have critcake in here

[final birch]

everything is better

[slim coral]

They got no one with an iq above 10

[final birch]

than fel hammer

lmao

[grand condor]

Fel hammer used to have a curated dh rule34 channel

I should've archived those

I mean what?

[oblique trail]

An average person would think the same were they to look in Skyhold at times

Can't say we really have a lot of people in here with the brightest takes

[final birch]

sure but its sometimes

meanwhile every time I went into fel hammer

[slim coral]

yeah but they have roid in there now

[final birch]

people had the dumbest takes

[slim coral]

which tanks their overall

[final birch]

First time I went to fel hammer

people were complaining and making shit up

2nd time I went fel hammer

[oblique trail]

Fel Hammer is a place no one should go to

[final birch]

some guy was talking about how he's 99% sure his wife is cheating on him with the fitness trainer

that he pays for

and that he doesnt know what to do

and that therapy is bullshitr

never came back

[slim coral]

I saw someone in their say that the new hero talent trees for ret all look bad

that's all I neeeded to see

[oblique trail]

Every class Discord is the same basically, filled with a bunch of people with very interesting takes and things to say, and few that are genuinely there to help and know what they're talking about

Some just worse than others

[slim coral]

interesting takes?

I woulndt call them that

I'd say more delusional

[oblique trail]

God knows Skyhold has had plenty of those too

[slim coral]

ok but we mostly just have doomers

saying templar or hearald of the sun is bad is just idiotic

[worldly shard]

got 2 past 10min lol

[eternal sundial]

very importat item this early in the patch

[worldly shard]

im guessing s4 will be a copy of s3

[eternal sundial]

and then there will be a new item

[worldly shard]

taut tethercoil is the most cancer shit ever

[oblique trail]

That part really is not that bad

[nocturne dragon]

well it is considered 2 hand by how it sheathed, normal 1 hand usually put on the waist.

[oblique trail]

There are multiple 1handers that sheathe on the back

[bitter palm]

warriors will forever be shit!

blizz doesnt care about us

we have no utility

we need lust

or brez

!

[fossil hatch]

which one is worse? 😄

[oblique trail]

The superbloom without a singular doubt

You can't farm it, and its speed depends on how many people you can conscript to buff you

[fossil hatch]

yes whole event is meh

[oblique trail]

It is

The tethercoil I finished in less than 2 hours, by comparison the superbloom took me 7

At least you can afk it so I just watched stuff on the side while waiting

[smoky prawn]

superbloom is horrible

[final birch]

Tethercoil is not that bad considering you got superbloom

So you just do both

Same time

[worldly shard]

i just shard hop

for superblooms

can do 5 boss kills per superbloom

[red yew]

ya benzai

[oblique trail]

ya uheldig

[still swift]

ya uhelzai

[oblique trail]

ya nani

[worldly shard]

almost done with this shit

[red yew]

What the-

[worldly shard]

done 🙂

[craggy river]

gz

[barren ore]

I did 2 axes in 1 day. Let's hope it will be upgradable in S4

[worldly shard]

i should have mine in about 30min

[light stump]

so pug pulled Fyrakk with only one tank (tank left during pull counter). I suicided, got kicked. They somehow managed to kill him.

No chance for loot? But leggo yes? (ember)

[fleet sorrel]

[barren dagger]

Leggo overrated. U wont have an excuse anymore for being bottom dps

[light stump]

legit no ember? I just miss out on a week of BLP

[worldly shard]

looks like u can bug out the concentrated vellum quest

and reset cd

took me like 5-10min to complete

[worldly shard]

looks like u can do the healing part with follower dungeons

healer bot will just outheal it

[subtle lagoon]

Or you can just use second wind and do it solo

[worldly shard]

i did proving grounds for the other quests

to reset 5min cd's

[subtle lagoon]

As it should be done

[worldly shard]

follower dungeon bots do more hps

than healers in keys

wish i had those bots in my keys

[worldly shard]

whats this?

[subtle lagoon]

Not needed

abandon

[worldly shard]

worth buying draconic augment shit for 100k?

1k rep away from renown18 with DW

[subtle lagoon]

For me it was worth

[barren dagger]

I bought yesterday

Was 1k dps on ST

[subtle lagoon]

I bought one week 2 of the patch I think

[barren dagger]

I only realized recently how easy it is to get rep

[karmic crow]

DW rep week one was wild.

[worldly shard]

i just did superblooms every week

[karmic crow]

Soo all the content and then farm seeds

[worldly shard]

sidequests are enough to get me to R20

need to crank out loamm

only 4/9 into the s2 campaign anyways

missing 1 mount in zaralek

and its the rep one

handled it

[barren dagger]

Good handling

[clever belfry]

maghar orc tusks tmog is the biggest L known to mankind

[covert blaze]

bro is mad he stole his pfp

[azure holly]

when/how do you use Fyr'alath in opener?

do you replace charge with it, or do you use it after you've expended all your BT procs from OF/Avatar maybe?

[karmic crow]

Not during cooldowns when you have the most dots out

[worldly shard]

pretty big

[azure holly]

so you use it after cds are expired?

[karmic crow]

Yes

[azure holly]

that sounds odd to me, doesn't Reck buff the weapon damage?

[karmic crow]

No

[azure holly]

can the weapon crit? 🤔

like the active effect

[warm crag]

reck doesnt affect your trinkets or cantrips

[azure holly]

oh rip

[karmic crow]

It can but you do more damage with rampage and BB than Lego

[warm crag]

we have paid dearly for legion

wait does reck buff it

maybe i am a noober

sec

[karmic crow]

Reck is 20% crit

[warm crag]

i am investigating whether i am the noob

[tardy lark]

Pretty sure % does not apply but rating does. Please confirm if I am noober as well @warm crag

[clever belfry]

ur are thoust noober

[warm crag]

i am not the noober

[clever belfry]

correct king

[clever belfry]

reck isnt 20% crit

[tardy lark]

I am not noober 👑

[clever belfry]

reck is 20% ability crit to certain abilities

[warm crag]

reck is 20% crit chance to abilities

[clever belfry]

(basically all warrior ones)

[warm crag]

so trinkets and cantrips are unaffected

[clever belfry]

unlike

wings for pally

cause fuck us ig

[warm crag]

windscar whetstone bdk moment

[tidal kindle]

No

[karmic crow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/1186960838460973056/221b3e065210c352b634849e3baca08f.png?ex=65f16f6c&is=65defa6c&hm=8496c5b351b2603006a695506e116e696708b5bce589371a5de5070152da707d&

[tidal kindle]

Died for legion

[warm crag]

i have already corrected this grave mistake and you will now shrink 2cm

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-gif-7579664463809719282

[tidal kindle]

No

Die for legion

[azure holly]

can't wait for Legion classic to relive the Fury glorydays

[warm crag]

you shrink another cm

[clever belfry]

@warm crag https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525388086805266472/1213488909007462470/image.png?ex=65f5a89d&is=65e3339d&hm=63241c9c2407daed46270a8d2271311fba46a53eca6b96450a0b3ecdca38913b&

:3

10g for this guild crest in classic tho..

[warm crag]

this is fucked up

[warm crag]

king guild

also acquire aid

[worldly shard]

only missing the fyrakk trink now

for full bis

best combo for trinks in m+?

i have 489ember / 489rezan / 489might / 483cata/ 483serpent idol / 483 branch

just missing augury

[unreal onyx]

ember + might imo

[worldly shard]

and if i get augury?

[unreal onyx]

augury + might

[worldly shard]

kk

ty

[paper ivy]

a question abt tindral mythic, what can you do about the fps drops?

[worldly shard]

disable TSM

ATT

[unreal onyx]

there's also a WA that disables branch nameplates

[worldly shard]

and use raid settings

[paper ivy]

what do these stand for

[hasty path]

Tradeskillmaster or something

[paper ivy]

that i have already

[hasty path]

Reallu performance heavy economy mod

Do you use ElvUI

[paper ivy]

i do not

[hasty path]

I only ask because ElvUI has a convenient feature that lets you see the memory use of each addon

Details is also another massive performance hit

Just turn it off

Use live logs to see stuff between pulls if you for some reason need to

[warm crag]

isnt livelogging the part that kills fps on tindral

[paper ivy]

i have mrt

that may be the problem

[warm crag]

sorry nto livelogging i mean autologging

shouldnt need to turn off details to get it to a playable state

[paper ivy]

it does autolog for me

[warm crag]

turn it off and try that

[karmic crow]

Set details to update every 3 seconds

MRT doesn’t impact your frame rate. From my experience it’s details updating too often

[paper ivy]

details was turned off

[hasty path]

ya i phrased it bad i guess

[worldly shard]

man this damage is big

[hasty path]

he should be looking at his guild's logs

[worldly shard]

10.4%

holy

[hasty path]

not doing the logging himself

make some other nerd like a healer do that

[paper ivy]

is there anythign else i can change in graphics settings?

[hasty path]

for example this is my addon performance stuff literally right after logging in

so maybe disable r.io as well if you have that

[hasty path]

do you use plater

[paper ivy]

yes

[hasty path]

i used a different nameplate addon specifically for tindral

called Slab

it's kinda annoying at first to obviously have it look very different but it was like +10 fps for me instantly

and then i just turned plater back on after raid and disabled slab

[paper ivy]

ok ill get that

ty

[worldly shard]

fyralath leggo on use

uncapped?

[hasty path]

turning off details and replacing plater alone will probably massively increase your fps

[paper ivy]

well Details was turned off the whole time. i only had MRT and Rio running

[oblique trail]

It's uncapped but split damage

[karmic crow]

What graphics settings are you running?

[paper ivy]

ill disbale those next time and ill use slab instead of plater

[paper ivy]

.

[paper ivy]

.

[slim coral]

[karmic crow]

What CPU/GPU do you have?

[paper ivy]

RTX 2060 Super 8 Gig

sec ill check cpu

intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700F CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz

[paper ivy]

do u think it is normal to have huge fps drops with this comp?

[karmic crow]

Possibly. The CPU isn’t the greatest at 3GHz. Wow relies on processing speed more than GPU.

[paper ivy]

yeah, my cpu has been acting wierd for the past couple of months

saving stuff to my main C drive slows my PC af

[worldly shard]

WoW is all about cpu

im upgrading to 14th gen soon

i9

[paper ivy]

i think i should do that as well

[worldly shard]

u play 1080p?

also rtx3080s are rather cheap rn

but if u do decide to get a 3080, then get the 12gb one

theres quite a bit of difference between 10gb and 12gb one

[paper ivy]

yup

[karmic crow]

2060 super isn’t great either, but it’s also not terrible for wow

[worldly shard]

i have 3090Ti

snagged it for 700euros

[karmic crow]

How much RAM do you have?

[worldly shard]

ah ye look into upgrading to 32gb if ur still at 16gb

WoW can pump out more than 24gb

[karmic crow]

9700F Caps RAM at 2666Mhz which isn’t bad but also isn’t great considering most DDR4 run at 3200+ and DDR5 are all 4k+

[dense elbow]

Did they do something about details? Everyone seem to be howering around 150k dps in keys, so something fishy going on?

Guess it is just a weird week ._.

[oblique trail]

no it's just people being bad

[slim coral]

I have a ntel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz

is that good or bad

[brittle crow]

is augury bis in all content

feels like it

[slim coral]

depends how high you push keys

[brittle crow]

i dont

[slim coral]

then yes

[brittle crow]

i do my 20s for portals and i couldnt care less about going harder unless im peer pressured into it

[slim coral]

you'll be fine then

[velvet canopy]

Spiteful creates a lot of dead "in combat" time and utility classes have to deal with incorp

Also probably bad

[slim coral]

idk what key level you are doing but most people are around 315k-350k depending on key in my groups

[velvet canopy]

I don't go much beyond PUGging low 20s and I've definitely seen a lot of weirdly low DPS this week

[tender seal]

Wow can utilize 32gb ram ?

[plush zephyr]

Not really, no.

Ends up being bottle capped by the server tick rate anyways

[worldly shard]

can use over 20gb

its gonna be a huge fps increase if u compare 16gb to 32gb

[plush zephyr]

I guess if you like having 32+ tabs open on google chrome

[worldly shard]

wow literally uses 13gb if u have 16gb of ram

but thats because it cant use more

lol

due to 100% usage

[bitter palm]

ive never seen it above 5 6

[oblique trail]

RAM is not the first point to upgrade if you already have 16gb

[bitter palm]

definitely

[worldly shard]

cpu > gpu > ram

[oblique trail]

If you're struggling with FPS, typically it's your CPU you should look at first

[bitter palm]

ngl cpu is almost always the way to go

[worldly shard]

for wow

[bitter palm]

weak gpu = turn down settings and plays fine

weak cpu = lag spikes freezing stuttering

cpu bottleneck is the worst thing ever

[bitter palm]

tbf dual channel does help a lot

idk on intel but it helped a lot on my old 2700x pc

[dense elbow]

Ye, just some weekly 20-22s, ppl are doing 150k overalls quite consistently, its weird

[lean wasp]

guys am leveling a tauren warrior any name suggestios ?

am thinking executus

hastecake ?🤔

[dense elbow]

Cattleclysm

[lean wasp]

good one i like it

[dense elbow]

Send help, my DPS meter gotta be broken

[tardy lark]

Can’t fool me with a season 1 screenshot

[worldly shard]

yeah this week is interesting

doing double ST damage aswell

[eternal sundial]

no way pugs are bad wtf

[dense elbow]

jumped my warr, just to see if things was just bugged. So yeah.

PuGs just bad

Just feels so weird, why are they hardstuck around 150k.

The 152k was prot pally, 123k DH

._.

[worldly shard]

perfect

someone left

because "0 dps"

[dense elbow]

well, they kinda were right

Man, its so weird, it seems like an actual pattern this week

[silver wharf]

yo u guys have any tips on using rune on weapons? sometimes it doesnt apply to the other weapon

its annoying

[unreal onyx]

wait 2s between applying

[velvet canopy]

Give it like half a second before you apply the second

[dense elbow]

Do halfcast on 2nd rune, then jump, redo. Works 100% of the time 🫡

[desert cloud]

Guys i always make sure i have enough rage for a rampage after lego but when i use lego it’s like i lose rage

Is that normal

Or is that some weird shit

[unreal onyx]

I thought the same for me

but my logs don't show anything weird

[desert cloud]

I think lego makes us lose rage ?

[unreal onyx]

my theory is that if you insta-cast a spell after you don't see the animation but still do the dmg and use rage

[desert cloud]

Like i’m 100% sure i have rage to use ramp cuz it’s shining and after i press lego i can’t press ramp after

[desert cloud]

Idk

Or it’s probably bugged

[unreal onyx]

I didn't see anything weird in my logs

[dense elbow]

You can check your logs, look at timeings for legendary on-use and look at your rage consumed

[unreal onyx]

but I am also no expert

[desert cloud]

I don’t log m+

But i realized this issue in the last keys i did

[dense elbow]

99% of PuGs do, so you can search yourself up, and likely find one

[desert cloud]

I’ll probably do that after gym ty

[silver wharf]

dude i spent 11 runes trying to rune it lol

[short hinge]

Hey everyone, was wondering how appropriate the MT raid build for a few bosses listed on this page actually performs: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/amirdrassil-raid-tips

Referring to the MT annihilator build, specifically for H Gnarl, Tindral, Fyrakk..

[short hinge]

Put the other weapon in your bags 🙂

[slim coral]

Anni is the only good build

[clever belfry]

loboz build

[short hinge]

Yeah, running annhi, I meant specifically the MT talents for those fights outlined in the build

unfortunately there's no direct link

I can be smarter than this, sorry:

I only adjusted thunderous words to uproar, for the 30sec shorter cooldown on Roar with Tindral in mind for roots

[humble plover]

You shouldn't really need it. Think the better roar with CDs is stonger

[worldly shard]

got leggo and now i only need 30 more aspect crests

and ima fix this shit

[humble plover]

Time to crank

[worldly shard]

dps increase according to raidbots was +20k in ST

[humble plover]

Massive

[worldly shard]

i mean i tried igira mythic and my ST was spiking over 550k for the first 10sec or some shit like that

and i stayed at 350-400k for a while

[slim sierra]

If I just got my boost and don't have any tier gear (30 or 31), should I follow the t30 build or just stick to the most up-to-date build?

[worldly shard]

boost u mean the 424ilvl?

for wwithin

[slim sierra]

Yup

[worldly shard]

are the pieces of upgradeable?

and are u new to the game

[upbeat sentinel]

Legendary chain really making me fucking hate Superbloom]

[slim sierra]

No, nothing upgradable (at least from what I saw on the person inside the LFR raid). I got a weapon drop and that was the only item that it let me put into the window at least, so I assume it's not.

[worldly shard]

host normal/heroic

raid

u can also catalyst the 424 pieces for tier

as a start

[slim sierra]

Those only drop from raid?

[worldly shard]

tier pieces?

[slim sierra]

First time playing since early BfA so not familiar with the new gearing systems yet

[worldly shard]

you can catalyst normal epic-quality pieces to tier pieces

you should have like 9 or some shit

charges

[slim sierra]

Hmm, not sure I had any but maybe I was looking at something else.

[worldly shard]

id just do most up to date build

to get a feel of it

as in youll have keybinds already set up and shit like that

[verbal kindle]

Is there any way to find good players for mythic plus?

[worldly shard]

youll go from 424 to 460 in like a day

if not higher

[slim sierra]

How so? Just from those catalysts?

[worldly shard]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/revival-catalyst-dragonflight

catalysts only turn epic pieces to tier pieces

but stay at that ilvl

[slim sierra]

I saw that I basically have to do world content if I want to quickly gear and that sounds... awful

[worldly shard]

can also do M+

[slim sierra]

From the little bit I've done of it I really can't stand dragonriding so the thought of doing dragon riding quests sounds like torture

[summer quail]

do you have all the glyphs?

[slim sierra]

Probably not

Since I don't know what those are lol

[summer quail]

it's what makes dragonriding feel good

[short hinge]

Thanks, any comments on that build for those fights... tindral, gnarl, fyrakk? is it too much of a dps loss?

[desert cloud]

Is that scuffed irelia on ur pfp

[indigo quarry]

its shart after mewing too much

[dense elbow]

That be chad-shadowheart

Chadowheart. Actually works, change your name Mutou

[desert cloud]

Definetly looksmaxxing

I googled shart

[summer quail]

handsome shart

[desert cloud]

And i regret it

Do not google shart guys

[summer quail]

if you google "shart bg3" then it's fine

[indigo quarry]

[lavish grove]

Fart with shit?

[storm rune]

Her name is shadowheart, so the community shortened it to shart

But if you google Chad shart... You deserve what's coming to you

[rotund ginkgo]

hi guys

[nocturne dragon]

Hi too

[red yew]

[desert cloud]

It’s even worse

Now they’re giving blowgobs

[desert cloud]

.

[summer quail]

is fine for me, idk what to tell ya

[subtle lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DGvBhdT9U00 rampage

[fleet sorrel]

[charred hawk]

is Champion's spear macro not working? I cant get mine to work now .

[indigo quarry]

shift click on the spell when you do the macro

the ' is always the one doing funky stuff

[charred hawk]

did and still wont work

[indigo quarry]

so you messed up something else

you wanna do the cursor one right ?

[charred hawk]

#showtooltip Champion's Spear
/cast {@player} Champion's Spear

[indigo quarry]

ok you dont use bracket

[charred hawk]

shit found it lol

[indigo quarry]

you use [

[charred hawk]

hard to tell in the font tyvm

[desert cloud]

Is that macro worth it

I have it on mouseover

I guess @ player is faster ?

[static prairie]

The upside is that you wont have to worry about your cursor, the downside is you cannot put it anywhere else

[indigo quarry]

you wont throw it on the ceilings thats the best thing about it

[summer quail]

i prefer player macro for spear, cursor for ravager

[storm rune]

mouseover is nice if you have a DH-esque tank who have it hard coded in their brains that they need to constantly move the boss halfway across the continent on pull

But otherwise it's pretty rare you don't want it directly under your own player

[summer quail]

ehh, don't use spear in m+ and raid tanks make same movement each pull so that's fine

[storm rune]

Exactly, so unless you're forced to pug smolderon @pulsar wing wins for me

wonder who I just pinged

Ravager probably has a better argument for mouseover but personally I can't be assed, I already have a yogi-esque cursor the size of my character and I still don't trust myself not to yeet it into the great beyond

[desert cloud]

Onlyfans detected opinion rejected

Or some shit they say in instagram

What’s her @

[unreal onyx]

idk

I stole the pic from here

[indigo quarry]

stay strong brother

[verbal kindle]

haha playing mythic plus with randoms is the worst gaming experience yet

[young swan]

correct

[clever belfry]

i have an unreasonable amount of fun pugging 25-27s on my MW seeing these DOGSHIT players fuck up everything possible

thinking they're gods gift to the game

[verbal kindle]

95 % of players in general are really bad, and mythic plus is just too hard for most people

its a bad combination

[worldly shard]

almost 240k

[warm crag]

interesting character name

[worldly shard]

caught me there

xD

[storm rune]

I miss the first couple weeks of the season, pugs in the 20+ scene were actually decent 😦

Now we're just dredging the lake hoping the tank can at least break 100k

[clever belfry]

REAL roidstack???

[covert blaze]

Emma Langevin

[covert blaze]

[verbal kindle]

some giga noob 150k warlock running all over the room against yazma

[noble elm]

I am fake roidstack

Forever lurking

[verbal kindle]

imaging spending 15 sec figuring out strats for bosses

[tardy lark]

Seems to have too many neurons working together

[clever belfry]

Roidstack expose yourself rn

[clever belfry]

Right, real roidstack would not have ashkandur do bonus dmg against him

[worldly shard]

im roidstack the eternal

xD

[tardy lark]

Too few +16 neltharion lair screendumps

[bitter palm]

ew that ring

476 and no sockets

[fleet sorrel]

[unreal onyx]

gotta make a char named Roidstack to honor his legacy

[fleet sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/self-report-among-us-troll-fia-agent-gif-3619993576443358983

[clever belfry]

farmed

[unreal onyx]

Drogbar Rocks

bis

[final birch]

absolute unit

[clever belfry]

🕵️

[modest condor]

sick nelth +16

[clever belfry]

yes thats it for sure

frfr

[warm crag]

miss him already

[clever belfry]

acquire aid spongie

[warm crag]

acquiring

[final birch]

I saw him online

yday

after like a month

[clever belfry]

rate my tindral parse

[warm crag]

kingswift

[final birch]

still better than your augs

parse

[clever belfry]

so true

(not true)

[final birch]

(true)

lock that logged 4 on our kill did 100k more than me

x)

good thing that shit is off allstars

[clever belfry]

yeah it took

way too fucking long

for it to go xd

as warr you would legit get a free rank 1 if u didnt have to fly + got aug buff on shields

🤷‍♂️

[gleaming siren]

I have been alerted

that Roidstack has been in here

[warm crag]

kingstack

[clever belfry]

roidstack has perished

🪦

[dapper goblet]

🧎‍♂️

[fleet sorrel]

I’m sure he’s giving birth to himself as we speak

🫄

[clever belfry]

roidstack mitosis

@fleet sorrel getting chiori or??

[fleet sorrel]

probably for fun

[clever belfry]

powerful

[tardy lark]

👑

[fallen ginkgo]

whats the lore behind roidstack? i am clearly missing something

[clever belfry]

if u know u know

if u dont know, u dont

thats all u gotta know

[fallen ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-star-rainbowstreak-nbc-gif-4884642

[unreal onyx]

nelth +16

[clever path]

Remember when the carry in his group had a higher io

[storm rune]

nope

[hardy cargo]

Rip roidstack

[meager void]

There's a Roidstack inside us all.

The Roidstack within.

[balmy shore]

rate mine from this week's reclear

saved u from a 0

[clever belfry]

👑 ty queen

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-tinky-winky-king-crown-putting-on-crown-gif-25925940

[summer quail]

was before your time

[left perch]

baked beans

[desert cloud]

can u link me ur MT arms sim again ?

[desert cloud]

🫡

[summer quail]

baked beans is fine, the unseasoned chicken tho

[left perch]

real

[dense elbow]

You will never know the gain efficiency of blended chicken 🍗

[fluid cedar]

Wtf roidstack is gone?

[young swan]

hes been gone

just his alt account is gone now too

[fluid cedar]

I miss him

[half cargo]

I’m semi curious why he was banned

Seemed harmless tbh

Unless I missed out on something wild

[fallen ginkgo]

[fluid cedar]

I need a new SMF build where is syi when you need him

[unreal onyx]

same, but I couldn't get an answer yet

[humble plover]

I got one of those this week. Caught quite a few spears on igira

[upbeat sentinel]

For the crafting portion of the lege, if I am an Enchanter, can I just do the enchanting part myself?

[clever belfry]

how do u die on igira spears as warr

[upbeat sentinel]

Or do I still have to use on someone else

[upbeat sentinel]

Standing in the overlap of 4 of them landing

[humble plover]

By trying to center and getting clipped by 5 of them

[upbeat sentinel]

ive absolutely done it before lmao

[humble plover]

I took a calculated risk. But man am I bad at math

[upbeat sentinel]

Also do the crafted items have skill req's?

Or just anyone with Dragonflight Inscription/LW/Enchant

[humble plover]

I've heard 100 but idk if that's actually true

[acoustic furnace]

Eat 3-4 at once with no DRs up and die instantly. But if that happens someone either stacked them wrong or you're standing somewhere stupid.

[clear solar]

They don’t, even 1 skill is enough

[upbeat sentinel]

crazy

Also figured out you can just use the items on yourself if you have the relevant prof

Only had to use 1 other person 😎

[clever path]

I feel somewhat obligated to race change to maghar now that i have tusks

[humble plover]

Power play it. Go vulpera

[upbeat sentinel]

How annoying is Volo to do in LFR with the rune

do idiots just instapull him

[humble plover]

Yes they do but you can beat them by just spam pressing it. Doesn't put you in combat

[upbeat sentinel]

And just Proving Grounds for the other two ya?

[pearl bloom]

why all the high raider io warriors are night elf?

[blissful kestrel]

Meld is broken

[sudden tusk]

we dont need dwarf to live

so we meld for util

[acoustic furnace]

but dwarf is a way of life 😦

[blissful kestrel]

Dwarf is ugly as hell

[acoustic furnace]

yeah but they're ugly like a Pug or an English Bulldog

still kinda lovable, y'know?

probably has breathing issues

[fading sky]

Dorf for fyrakkk

[upbeat sentinel]

Mine is Draenei because Draenei

[modest condor]

mine is human because when you play a fantasy game you just have to go crazy sometimes

[unreal onyx]

im nelf bc I like the look the most

[final birch]

@clever belfry spreading the WA

to all people

sharing love

[clever belfry]

goat

[clever belfry]

the corner strat with 2 melee and a MW

is

not real

[upbeat sentinel]

GOATed

[final birch]

na

REAL

also doing the key

with no ragefire

and dying on pull in meta and bl

is REAL

[rich loom]

sadge

got a 489 gore crusted

still no signet brand.........

[left perch]

why do people be so cringe in keys

[slim coral]

Mine is Murloc

[fleet sorrel]

[wheat terrace]

wym bro

[slim coral]

The murloc transformation toy is BiS

[fleet sorrel]

[left perch]

just high rio folx sometimes like to join lower keys

and then rage

[bitter palm]

dont invite those

ever

they leave instantly

[stuck oar]

I could be dumb and unable to find the information but what attacks does whirlwind cause to cleave?

[bitter palm]

all

[covert blaze]

Your st spells

[bitter palm]

says in the tooltip

[stuck oar]

Odyn's fury wouldn't be included then?

[bitter palm]

odyns fury is aoe

by default

[stuck oar]

sorry new to warrior so trying to figure out the interactions and all that

[left perch]

legit this guy only stayed because he wanted completion weekly for his friends alt. it was the worst

[bitter palm]

ye

cringe ass players

[spiral oasis]

For mythic, do we only take spear on like 3 bosses?

Volc, Nymue, Smold

[bitter palm]

yes

[summer quail]

yes, and it's not that big either so if you want you can play rorar

roar*

[spiral oasis]

Roar feels safer cuz you can dodge comparatively freely ig

I have a lot of questions for mythic tbh blegh

[bitter palm]

on smold

spear is a must

troar is giga troll

on smold

[young swan]

take it on gnarlroot too

[final birch]

dude

[young swan]

still run ww talents

[final birch]

I had today

a piece of sanguino shit

that left the key

3 sec into teh start

left my ad 27

[bitter palm]

classic

sanguino player

never invite

[final birch]

like legit

how big of a piece of shit you have to be

then again, he played blood elf male

[bitter palm]

i lost all motivation cause the healer i was supposed to play with had some issues and couldnt play this season

pugging healers

was so bad

imagine

dying to a dot over 15 seconds

[summer quail]

while it is bigger than the other bosses it's not a must on smolderon either. @bitter palm

[spiral oasis]

Looks like everybody takes roar on gnarlroot according to logs

[young swan]

gajeel doesnt

r1 allstars

[spiral oasis]

But the gameplay i watched, most people were using it when ads came out. I assume this late into the patch, ads die passively pretty quick, and it's not much of a difference?

[hardy cargo]

[young swan]

u just dont get any value out of roar on the adds and u can fucking giga pipe the boss during the amp

no reason to run roar on that boss

[spiral oasis]

Ok that's what I was thinking. I am brand new to mythic raiding and wanting to learn more.

[young swan]

people are just sheep

[spiral oasis]

Only parsed a ~50 on my first kill. Wondering what I could do to do better.

Do you take roar for igira to help with spears?

[bitter palm]

yes

[young swan]

yeah

[bitter palm]

it giga fucks ur dps

not playing spear

bb is all of ur dmg

losing 25% when it matters the most

is bad

all amp bosses want spear

gnarlroot/smold

troar on gnarlroot is just for pad

which is irrelevant this late

[spiral oasis]

I see

[left perch]

its possible i spent too much time as aug main this and last season

[spiral oasis]

Brain fried

Actually, would any cool guys wanna take a look at my logs and gimme some pointers? I think I did OK for my first mythic run, but I always wanna go into the next encounter better than I was the last time.

[summer quail]

i mean ye spear is definetely better by a decent bit but if it was troll there wouldn't be roar users in the top 100

if someone is progging smold and are more comfortable with roar, then there's nothing wrong with playing roar

[summer quail]

#449510248579858432

[spiral oasis]

Yar just saw it, will post in a moment

Also curious as to how we incorporate fyralath into rotation, as I've heard it does better now on activation.

[summer quail]

we just press it outside of cds basically

[spiral oasis]

also i just realized I think I had the wrong trinket on for gnarl lmao

[bitter palm]

i checked the higher one

8.44% augury

r40

[summer quail]

[bitter palm]

fury has no issues surviving on that fight u can eat waves without issues

unless u are scared of tanking waves in er

which u shouldnt be

there is no point in not playing spear

even if u are scared losing 1-2s of spear is worth it over troar

[spiral oasis]

Posted me first gnarlroot kill in logs channels

[bitter palm]

imo if you are new to it you should push ur limits

fucking up is how u get better

[summer quail]

not arguing that spear isn't worth over roar, just saying it's not ultra troll to play roar. not disagreeing that spear is more worth on smolderon over the others

[spiral oasis]

That's how I learned on council

Council is hard and I made a lot of mistakes that I won't make again

[bitter palm]

yeah its not ultra troll its just worse and there is no point in not playing spear

council is cringe

af

[summer quail]

tru

[spiral oasis]

I was so used to just tanking shit and playing like a goober on heroic council that I fell into a pitfall of confidence that I think I've climbed out of since then

It was fun thinking about how to min-max damage on the multiple bosses when I could tho.

[balmy shore]

im gajeel's biggest fan doing this next time

[young swan]

:3

[balmy shore]

:3

[left perch]

@balmy shore help

[balmy shore]

💖

[balmy shore]

oh no vhys what happened

[bitter palm]

i dont have time to look deep into it rotation wise but from what i checked u didnt use leggo in burn phase u had 2 wasted bloodbaths and u werent running an on use trinket

[spiral oasis]

yar I realized that I had the wrong trinket on the day after LOL

Also I didn't know fyralath was that good now, will be sure to use it when he's takin big damage

[bitter palm]

yeah might of the ocean / embersoul are good

for more dam

[spiral oasis]

yeah I wanted might on, I was using ember cuz sims said it was good but I gotta think for myself more when I'm against bosses like that

[bitter palm]

gajeel trolled that gnarloot so hard

used leggo 50 seconds into the fight and didnt get it back

[balmy shore]

gajeel's the goat

[bitter palm]

[balmy shore]

favorite warrior player

[young swan]

gajeel doesnt do wrong things he just innovates

[bitter palm]

revvez's heir as the god of warriors

[young swan]

hes a humble man

[spiral oasis]

I know it's fury channel but when do we use the axe on use for arms

[bitter palm]

whenever

just not in cs

even in cs is fine

in lust

on st fights i open with it

[spiral oasis]

I was using it on council for the first pushback cuz it locked me in place

[bitter palm]

charge rend leggo troar ava cs

[left perch]

i played too much aug and now my warrior is bad with bad gear

[bitter palm]

you should use it on cd pretty much

[spiral oasis]

Bad ass

I'm glad the lego is good now

[bitter palm]

unless u cant because of a mechanic

[spiral oasis]

Yar

Learning it is fun

[bitter palm]

y i recommend pushing urself

even if u make a mistake you will learn from it and get better

[spiral oasis]

I was dead on our council kill on Thursday

[bitter palm]

cringe boss

[spiral oasis]

It was a good pull too I was fucking them up..

Then I press 1 as a duck and exploded

[bitter palm]

happens

its unfortunate but it is what it is

accept that you made a mistake and learn from it

best way to improve imo

[warm crag]

council crazy boss !!!

[bitter palm]

hardest boss

this raid

[final birch]

council>fyrakk

[bitter palm]

cant tell me

that boss isnt turbo cringe

[final birch]

nah its very fun

[bitter palm]

(surely)

[final birch]

being extremely dependant on tank and group

[bitter palm]

true

[final birch]

if group decides to focus bear

tanks will go to africa with bear

and no more ss action for you

[spiral oasis]

I had fun doing it!

[final birch]

(:

we have a guy

[spiral oasis]

Enough pulls that I learned a lot

[oblique trail]

The council has deemed that you shall be obliterated

[final birch]

that said like 10 weeks into the patch (we were already 6 or 7/9m)

that he didnt know not to focus bear

as ranged

[warm crag]

banezi come vc immediately or i will kill you immediately

[oblique trail]

I am in bed

[warm crag]

ok and?

sleep call

[oblique trail]

You can hear me mirmir

[warm crag]

ready to hear it

[narrow narwhal]

New pfp leave banezi alone

[balmy shore]

[warm crag]

i miss the guy with that pfp

[left perch]

real

[balmy shore]

u guys are cute

[bitter palm]

@final birch i spent 45 minutes in smold pugs now

cant kill the boss

[final birch]

on heroic?

[bitter palm]

groups cant kill a heroic boss like 693 weeks into the patch

yes

[final birch]

dude

I cba spending more than 15 mins on fyrakk

let alone smoldy

1 bad pull = leave

[spiral oasis]

LOL

[bitter palm]

1 pull is all it takes

[final birch]

I'm not there to progress heroic shit 300 weeks into the patch

[bitter palm]

to know whether or not

the group will killit

ye i was changing groups

thats the worst part

[covert blaze]

[bitter palm]

changed like 5 groups

in all 5 groups u had people

who didnt know not to walk into the soak with wave circle

like

????????????

legit 2 min quick guide

on smold

[final birch]

I had a tank

[bitter palm]

and u know the fight

[final birch]

on wednesday

he had the big soak

and he kept running away with it

last minute too

so like 8 people missed the soak

or more tbh

[bitter palm]

ye idk

[covert blaze]

smartest tank player

[spiral oasis]

No guilds have a wf totem sadge

[warm crag]

yeah you're right i just checked my guilds roster and there are no shamans left

what the fuck

[oblique trail]

Spongiesimp

[covert blaze]

blue man good

[balmy shore]

[covert blaze]

[storm rune]

So I just did Igara in my Arms gear and I gotta say, for that specific fight having the wrong stats felt so fucking good, OF starts to line up so well with spears on CD with enough crit/haste

[bitter palm]

idk my stats are equal on fury rn

all of them

haste a bit lower

30%

with crit phial

and 2x hissing

and vers mast food

[storm rune]

huh, my stats are a far cry from that, 5800 crit/haste and probably 7% less vers

In arms gear

whereas fury is less than 20% crit, 24% haste and closing in on 30% vers

So I guess my statement isn't exactly applicable to all, but still crit/haste feels really good on that fight

[covert blaze]

Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

[left perch]

[bitter palm]

Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

[upbeat sentinel]

Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

[rotund steppe]

Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

[south kayak]

Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

[meager void]

omg lol

um does chrono lord deios parry on m+ or did I just get a fluke?

he just parried 1 bb and 4 ramps

[bold bluff]

I can confirm that he does parry

[clever path]

Is vers mast food better than the mainstat?

[meager void]

at a certain gear point

you can sim thru advanced sim or just do 2 sims with diff foods

[compact knot]

run a stat weights and see

but vers mast food is very good for me

vers is almost equal to main stat for me right now lol

[nocturne dragon]

is primary stat food not good compared to mast/vers?

[compact knot]

no str is still good

its a incredibly small difference lol

its maybe like 100 dps diff

but the mast/vers food is pretty cheap and if you have a food pocket its becomes alot easier

[willow cradle]

Just sim food instead?

[compact knot]

wdym just sim food

like you mean do 2 different sims and sim both foods xd?

or grab the advanced sim stuff

[willow cradle]

SIm both foods

[compact knot]

???

[willow cradle]

Do you want an accurate answer or not?

[compact knot]

sure

[willow cradle]

Then don't do statweights

[compact knot]

idiot

[willow cradle]

Yikes

[compact knot]

love how people still think stat weights is a bad tool lol

just use it right and it works perfectly

[willow cradle]

Define using it right?

[compact knot]

using it for enchants/foods/potions

alot of people when using it wrong use it for gear upgrades

GEMS

gems especially

[willow cradle]

The same issue that stat weights has still applies, your whole "stat weights" change the moment you add a singular stat point, that's why it's inaccurate.

[compact knot]

yeah and when you run a sim for food like 2 running two quick sims for food, one can be higher than the other because of varation and you get a even more inaccurate answer to your question of what food is better

[willow cradle]

You can obviously say it doesn't matter and that's fine, but it is still not fully accurate.

[compact knot]

its the most accurate for the small things

literally should only ever be used for enchants (non weapon), gems and food

[willow cradle]

You understand Stat Weights also get sim variation right?

[compact knot]

yes i do

but the sim variation isnt big enough to make one stat be siginicantly better than another stat

vers has quite literally been 1-2 points higher than everything else this entire patch for me

while if you run a quick sim you could be doing 246k in one while using a worse enchant, then 243k in another one while using a better enchant

3k difference vs 0.1 difference

[willow cradle]

Apples to oranges my guy, Stat weights will not give you the most accurate answer.

[compact knot]

with all the tools avaiable on the raid bots site (besides advanced sim), yes, it does give you the most accurate answer

[oblique trail]

With that specific gear setup

Typically however vers/mast food will just be the best food, or any double stat food, compared to mainstat

And you also see this if you sim stat weights and compare getting roughly double the amount of secondaries compared to a primary

For me, vers/mast food has been a roughly 5-600 dps increase over primary food

But at the end of the day, it's fairly minor which of the two you use

And I'd never personally use stat weights for any indication on what upgrades I should go for, nor what type of consumables I should use, and instead just use an advanced sim for consumables since it compares all at once (you can fairly easily find strings for this), and top gear for gear/gem upgrades

[bold bluff]

Can you see why this might be inaccurate? And why use this when you can just run one sim comparing the exact stats of two different foods?

https://support.raidbots.com/article/66-beware-of-stat-weights

[compact knot]

im adding 67 mastery and vers, not 900

the best way is advanced sim with the food string on it

i get what your saying tho

[gilded pawn]

Not to mention food gives different number of strength vs secondary stats

So sure 1 str>1 mastery, but is 100 str better than 50 mastery+50vers or whatever

[indigo quarry]

you should never do a stat weight

especially if you dont know what you talking about

if you cant read btw

[gilded pawn]

STRONGLY advises

[knotty forum]

If anyone can take a look in the log review I think i posted a Fury thread in there , (1st time here so wasnt sure if it's a Log Review or Fury post I made)

[iron portal]

It isnt Fury chat if somebody doesnt get mad over stat weights at least once a week

[knotty forum]

lol I have been watching the prot thread its an interesting read. 🙂

[iron portal]

@knotty forum log reviews is fine for asking

You can ask those questions here too

[willow cradle]

This time around it was the guy using stat weights getting upset 🙂

[iron portal]

Logreview generally just for log links though

As for your question

Patchwerk includes execute phase

Test dummy prob not

I havent played for awhile so cant really say more to be sure

[iron portal]

Still falls under my deecription

[willow cradle]

Yeah but it's usually the other way around

[iron portal]

Fair

[knotty forum]

Thanks for the reply, Would this account for a 9m deficit difference to bloodbath? I am recently new to fury warrior like a couple of weeks playtime so is a genuine question, Not sure if Execute phases buff Bloodbath.

[iron portal]

Prob have to wait for someone else to answer specifics

I have no understanding how current fury works

[knotty forum]

Ok, thank you, You can see why I was a little confused when theres such a huge difference to the sims Bloodbath damage and my Bloodbath damage. 🙂

[iron portal]

Retired skyhold dweller

[sudden tusk]

The Vicious contempt talent increases bloodbaths damage by 50% in execute

[knotty forum]

Ahh didnt know that thanks! I guess this would account for the "lost" of 9m in Bloodbath damage.

[sudden tusk]

on smolderon as an example a single crit BB within the buff window and spear can do over 1.2m

[knotty forum]

but then would this mean that the Fury warrior sims arent accurate as target dummy may not have execute phase?

So is 110k on target dummy good with a sim of 150k I cant quite work out if its "acceptable" or if it,s horrible lol

[iron portal]

Target dummy is more of a rotation helper before encounter or maybe testing some things

[knotty forum]

I was thinking its "ok" if theres no execute phase on dummy as looks like i would lose a tonne of damage due to no execute.

[iron portal]

Wont get as accurate as sims do

Best way, go do boss and capture log

[knotty forum]

Ye i tend to look at the details damage ordering and then look at sims damage ordering to compare damage priority and if they are similar then i kind of get a good idea if im playing the rotation correctly.

[iron portal]

Share and ask and better to see from there

[sudden tusk]

also remember

your defualt sim has almost ever raid buff

which is a crazy increase in damage

[knotty forum]

I disabled all raid buffs and only enabled personal buffs.

because i thought that could be the case

[oblique trail]

Use the target dummy sim option, and compare with that

However you can run into the awkward case of the dummy getting put into Execute even if you're the only one attacking the dummy

[knotty forum]

Ah ok thanks i,ll look at that @oblique trail

Ok ran a Target Dummy sim with no buffs and got 131k and Bloodbath still performed with 14M dmg compared to 9m so still a 5M loss.

[oblique trail]

I found your logs, and based on what you've shown, I can presume you're just not pressing your buttons right, which is where the issue might lie

[sudden tusk]

you have so much haste

[knotty forum]

I done 107 casts of Bloodbath in the same time as Sim done 131 so 24 missed casts = 5M dmg possible?

[sudden tusk]

the sim is also getting 35% execute damage

[oblique trail]

You double rampage sometimes, sometimes you spend a 2p bonus on a BT instead of a BB, when you could've rampaged into BB instead, your opener and CD usage is wonky and wrong

[sudden tusk]

where as you are not

[oblique trail]

It's not

Because it's a target dummy sim

[sudden tusk]

/cast Bloodbath
/cast Rampage

this maco is a crutch

but you can use it to learn if you want

[oblique trail]

I honestly would not ask someone to use it

[knotty forum]

I tend to try to fish for rampage proc using slam and whirlwind and everything to i heard that i should not press rampage if im not enrgaed.

[oblique trail]

Fury doesn't have anywhere near enough going on for it to warrant dumbing it down more

[sudden tusk]

rampage enrages you before the damage

so every rampage gets the damage bonus from enrage

[oblique trail]

Rampage is your primary method of enraging

[knotty forum]

Oh ok someone told me wrong then. 🙂

[oblique trail]

If you're not enraged, and you can rampage, you rampage

Just in case, based on what I see on logs, I'll tell you the general opener and how you should use your CDs, and the priority you should follow

Reck + Charge -> Rampage -> Odyn's Fury -> Roar/Spear -> Bloodbath -> Rampage -> Avatar when the Avatar from Odyn's Fury falls off (around 3-4 seconds later, helps tracking it) -> Bloodbath -> Rampage and so on

[knotty forum]

Ohh you dont stack avatar with Reckless?

[oblique trail]

As for the priority, which you, generally, understand, is in a descending order, left to right
Rampage if unenraged > Bloodbath > Execute if you have Ashen Juggernaut talented > Rampage > Bloodthirst > Execute if no Ashen Juggernaut > Slam > Whirlwind

[knotty forum]

Ahh makes sense sorry, I saw Odyns gives you reckless

[oblique trail]

Not in the opener no, you space your CDs out

Odyn's gives you Avatar

And that Avatar it gives applies before the damage is done by Odyn's Fury

[sudden tusk]

basically yuou want to reck charge to get enough rage to rampage