fury

[silver mantle]

nay

[warm crag]

stuck with it until you die of old age sorry

[silver mantle]

10/10

[warm crag]

your children shall inherit the bugged dreamleaf character

[silver mantle]

I wonder if I go do another superbloom, will I still get dreamleaves?

[warm crag]

probably not you're done with the quest

[silver mantle]

yeah, figures

[warm crag]

im willing to claim that you might be the first to try

[silver mantle]

I am never going back there

You can't make me

[storm rune]

if you don't open your bags you can stack them tho

I have like 16 extra in my bag

[silver mantle]

I also had, like 14, extra

deleted them though

never wanted to see them again

[storm rune]

I still have sinew from the hunter classic quest in my bank, I like the mementos

[silver mantle]

The only other remnant I have is the optional quest for the cooling salve

[storm rune]

imagine next xpac it's somehow bugged to negate shadowflame damage from a boss lmao

[silver mantle]

limited uses though

So you better count on that being the kill 😄

[storm rune]

RWF all plate classes

[spiral oasis]

i got dis shit too

[meager void]

what the actual fuck

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1b3a9az/a_warlock_got_fyralath_but_it_cannot_be_wielded/?share_id=uAJXAVKIzERDXWBixRpt5&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

[trim pagoda]

Eyo guys why are rotation addons generally frowned upon when they (I think so at least) show us the good order of spells?

[bitter palm]

they got a lot of shortcomings

and fury is giga simple anyway

[trim pagoda]

Oh so they are not perfect

[trim pagoda]

Ye I know I asked here because I play fury didn't know where else to ask. Thanks

[bitter palm]

they dont know if u are aoe until u tag multiple mobs they dont account for mechanics

timers etc

[modest condor]

rotation addons dont really teach you how to play

they just show you a button and you press it, but you don't know why you press it

and you can't make your own decisions because of that

it's not bad for getting used to a spec when you are new, but not something you should stick with if you want to be a good player

[gilded pawn]

They can teach you

[trim pagoda]

Thanks

[gilded pawn]

Most people just won’t learn

No rotation helper slander please

[summer quail]

will definetely slander rotation helpers for some specs

[storm rune]

Also I installed hekili, and it was painfully slow to react to procs, it dropped my DPS as prot by a ton

[balmy shore]

you should learn why you’re pressing the button you’re pressing

also you should know why certain abilities trigger other abilities or buffs

[compact knot]

489 pips/489 might
or 483 brand/489 might

on mythic tindral

we only got 1 lock so im thinking pips

[wanton mirage]

Why did u even install for a tank?

[storm rune]

wdym? I was brand new and a guide recommended it

[storm rune]

Legendary

[hollow elk]

not anymore lol

i guess it was rare for long enough

[lucid minnow]

wth, that's a lot. On my fyrakk hc kill this week, only 2 dropped

[hollow elk]

probably week one aotcs

so i think this week is the 100% garanteed?

15th week. i could be wrong tho

[lucid minnow]

nah it's next week I think

[fleet sorrel]

Fake pic that’s been going around for a while

[hollow elk]

oh is it ? rip

remove at will

[fleet sorrel]

idc doesn’t hurt anyone

[red berry]

i didn’t get it this week so im wounded but maybe next Tuesday

[bold bluff]

Hekili really helped me as a new retail player but I took the time to know why it was recommending each ability and to understand it, I think it helped me build muscle memory as well. Transitioning away from after you understand it's weaknesses isn't super easy but is doable. @Marko 🙂

[sullen dove]

hurts mental

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-meme-gif-23342140

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[blissful kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/lemonade-amazing-horse-gif-26550957

[covert blaze]

I forgot about that

[coral galleon]

i know we wanna be 3500Crit and haste, 5250 mastery verse for raid, what weights do we want for mythic+?

[oblique trail]

Those are some ultra specific stats that you'd be very unlikely to find anyone at

[summer quail]

where did you get those numbers from lol

[coral galleon]

through simming thats supposedly what we want to shoot for in raid

[modest condor]

[coral galleon]

with lego

[oblique trail]

And to answer your question, w/e sims the best for you in top gear in a Patchwerk 5 minute 1 target sim, will basically be equally as good in M+

When it comes to your stats, that is

Still don't know where you got that number from

[modest condor]

bloodmallet

[oblique trail]

Love bloodmallet

[summer quail]

40 40 10 10

[hasty path]

man woman person camera tv

[gilded pawn]

yo hes right

[covert blaze]

[young swan]

20/20/30/30

[sullen dove]

real

[blissful kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-gif-26959067

[edgy widget]

it drops directly on Mythic, and can be given to anyone, but the item isn't actually a weapon (despite looking like one) - it's a quest item

[meager void]

oh I do get it, its more of the feeling that a guild doing mythic reclears is already giving it away to a lock as a joke while I'm greater embering thru life.

[edgy widget]

I'm also not sure, but I don't believe the felguard glyph works for any legendary

[edgy widget]

next week

[left perch]

I mean it still says its eligible for trade so it's just someone memeing for reddit points

[edgy widget]

at this point all the people in their group who could actually use it may have looted it already too

[left perch]

that too

i also, have the axe finally

(not real)

[edgy widget]

I'm halfway through the superblooms, but not really in a hurry

[balmy shore]

the lock has to be able to do the quest, no? so i’m assuming doesn’t work

[edgy widget]

presumably, but even if they did, the glyph doesn't work on legendary weapons

[hollow ridge]

grats on lego archi

[edgy widget]

thanks, just in time for the pity drop

[clever path]

Should i be going 489 aug or use an ember null, sims are saying only a 500 dps loss for ember in 5 target 5 min aoe

[south kayak]

Finally

Grats

[hollow ridge]

dw I only got mine last week. feels bad that we waited for it for so long and feels worse that they had to basically hand it to us

[south kayak]

I got it last week too

I didn’t kill fyrakk since week 1 hc though

Far from it

[balmy shore]

PITY GANG

[meager gyro]

I’m apparently at 38% next week I’ll drop for sure

[unreal onyx]

Evokers fuming over basically free stick

They didn’t get theirs handed out, right?

[south kayak]

Their legendary was in the feedback beta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1155731369952034896/bongofury.gif

[sullen dove]

psure theirs still isnt guaranteed

if youve killed heroic sark since 10.1.5

up to now

[clever path]

that is an old gif

[south kayak]

yeah

2 stacks of bloodbath lmao

[final birch]

They changed something about it recently

10+ weeks

Into new tier

Where it isnt even relevant anymore

Lmao

[sullen dove]

i mean it will be s4

they prolly opening it up for ppl to get it now

so they dont have to farm it when it becomes relevant

[final birch]

Which is still a joke

[sullen dove]

ya

[final birch]

Whatever is right now after all the changes for our legendary

Seems okay-ish now

Maybe make the number of kills necessary a bit less

But the general idea is ok

[eternal sundial]

[slim coral]

?

[dire vigil]

I'm having good results popping axe as soon as Avatar expires. Fury Fun Time is here

[stuck bison]

huh

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-critics-choice-awards-side-eye-confused-clapping-gif-14741917063569043913

[pure breach]

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-meme-gif-23342140

[red yew]

2AM pug moment?

[sullen dove]

thats my guild raid...

[ocean cape]

14th kill

explain

[sour frigate]

Skill issue

[unreal onyx]

14th heroic kill?

[ocean cape]

yup

[mossy fox]

prolly not the 14th weekly kill since the legendary became available

well, cant be cause thats next week at the earliest

[ocean cape]

ugh right

[proper veldt]

imagine pressing 2 buttons instead of macroing them together and pressing only 1 button , pathetic

[tardy lark]

Just macro your entire rotation

[glass star]

whats the best race for fury?

[worldly shard]

I got my leggo after 43 overall attempts in HC

Spread across alts

43 fyrakk kills that is

Got it on main btw

[tardy lark]

Tauren/Dwarf or human in most cases

you can sim whether which one is better in your specific case

[upbeat sentinel]

Also the gauruntee isn't at 14 kills, it's at 14 Greater Embers. So your 15th kill after lege became available

[subtle lagoon]

I hope whoever thought of making legendary rng, and this whole acquisition quest, are fired.

[tardy lark]

you clearly havent shown excellence enough to get it

[unreal onyx]

I like the idea, but in reality from a competitive standpoint it’s pretty bad

Gotta balance between casuals and „tryhards“

[subtle lagoon]

I forgot I have to show my excellence by doing shitty superblooms

Bending fyrakk over and doing him sideways every week isn't enough

[glass star]

sooo fury is the most zug zug u can play i assume?

like damn this class is easy and fun

why even play fire mage on a good level when u can play fury

[sullen dove]

[tardy lark]

cause mage is usually better

[frigid cipher]

skill issue

its a perfectly designed questline and droprate

[glass star]

well yea i love mage, but just sit in melee and press buttons is fun af

[tardy lark]

its not that fun when you cant sit in melee range cause mehcanics prohibit it

[unreal onyx]

AM

[tardy lark]

also, biggest weapons and shortest arms

[mossy fox]

soon biggest characters too with shortest arms

[unreal onyx]

5% size increase, desperately needed

[tardy lark]

same bro 😦

[subtle lagoon]

Don't we already increase in size from avatar?

[tardy lark]

mine doesnt

[subtle lagoon]

skill issue

[glass star]

does it make sense to macro avatar and roar?

or is there cdr on one of them`?

[tardy lark]

you can, but you'll sometimes want to run 1min roar

[unreal onyx]

The only macro I use rn is might+reck

[glass star]

when?

i assume we press whirlwind off cd ?

[pulsar prawn]

Never.

[tardy lark]

Igira, Tindral and Fyrakk are the most common ones, but you'll probably do it other places as well

[glass star]

what about reck and avatar?

[tardy lark]

No, only in aoe. Then you make sure you always cleave your abilities by pressing ww every 5th global

[pulsar prawn]

Nope

[glass star]

so ww at 2 targets+?

[tardy lark]

yes

[glass star]

and we dont macro any cds together?

[pulsar prawn]

Reck (+might) and odyns work as macro together..

[glass star]

do we not want to press offensive cds together?

or is there gcd between avatar and reck

[tardy lark]

You want to space out Odyns Fury and Avatar (since it procs an Odyns Fury)

[maiden shuttle]

Does intervene/reflect work on bosses?

[tardy lark]

you can choose to not care and its not a mega loss, but its gonna be big in aoe

[pulsar prawn]

@glass star a simple look at wowhead guide by Archi and you can easy see why

[tardy lark]

so normally you'd open with reck-charge-ramp-of-3globals-avatar(+roar if you run it)

[glass star]

ohhh so if i press avatar it automaticly proqs odyn fury

[tardy lark]

yes

or rather, it does if you run the correct avatar node thingy

[glass star]

well yes i could but i like the interaction with people more than reading 5 sites

yea i see, thanks that helps a lot

since i just started twinking that and ran some 5s

[tardy lark]

dead giveaway that you're german

[glass star]

cause of twinking? 😄

or what told u im german

[barren dagger]

U check 5 sites, take notes, then confirm everything with real people

[tardy lark]

only germans call it twinks

rest of the world has a very different idea of what a twink is

[glass star]

i could or i talk 5 mins with people and got the same result since you guys sit here in the discord helping people anyways?

thanks for your help aagard, otherones are bitching for some reason

[pulsar prawn]

1 picture

easy learning with this 🙂

[glass star]

sadly i have t30

🙂

but yea thanks

[sour frigate]

its fake if u run DB

[pulsar prawn]

then save it for later ^^

[glass star]

what i dont understand is, why do we not start with avatar and reapply with odyns fury

[hardy shuttle]

T30 is also covered in the wowhead guide

[glass star]

do we not want the 20% dmg amp?

[sour frigate]

u get avatar from of

[tardy lark]

tier set reduces CD of OF

[sour frigate]

and the faster u of the faster u get it back

[tardy lark]

so you want to use the cooldown reduction first and foremost

[glass star]

ahhhhhh

[worldly shard]

Gonna craft 🍊 axe today

[fleet sorrel]

[barren dagger]

I bought a fresh token for augment rune and axe crafting

Blizz fucking me good

[proper veldt]

its all part of their plan , they want to see how much we can take before quiting the game so they can mixmax their gains for the future expansions.

[sour frigate]

[hardy shuttle]

I'm fairly confident they only fixed BLP on the axe to sell more tokens.

[unreal onyx]

Or bc enough people complained

Or they don’t care if it’s „rare“ or not

[subtle lagoon]

They never did, shit was not very rare

[unreal onyx]

Well it was rng, so it was not easily obtainable

Lets put it that way

[subtle lagoon]

oh yeah blizzard loves their casino systems

Really boosts their retention numbers

[nocturne dragon]

I mean… wow has way less rng compared to Lost Ark

[slim coral]

Lost ark is so good

[barren dagger]

Lost ark doesn’t have a subscription though

[smoky prawn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1163158753743478854/catslam.gif

[barren dagger]

Tfw slam is going off my bars again in 2 months

Tfw enrage uptime goes back to 100%

Tfw i will have reck ravager every pack

[sour frigate]

Also evoker will be viable again

[tardy lark]

not like it basically isnt already, although you do have gaps. Moreso if you fuck up some ^^

[smoky prawn]

git gud angle

[deft ridge]

I become enraged irl from 1.5 min cds

[dense elbow]

Only 2 months, and me being correct about OF being super weak and in need of a huge buff is correct again

[tardy lark]

OF is ok, annihilator is not

[still swift]

can u make smf viable yet

its a crime to not be able to use beautiful swords like these

[barren dagger]

I am not very good at the game so i do not have 100% uptime sir

Especially in keys

I used to have completely dog uptime around 85%. Now i get closer to 95% if i dont fuck up

[tardy lark]

Its easier in keys cause you are forced to press something extra a lot of the time. Lacking enrage uptime comes from mindlessly just pressing Ramp-BB instead of using fillers while enraged

[stuck bison]

Smf 🤢

[barren dagger]

You mean pressing BT again before rampaging if i dont overcap rage?

Yeah that’s the one i’m working on

[tardy lark]

BT/Slam/WW(if ST)

[barren dagger]

Ye i just need to be less warrior brain

[tardy lark]

Also getting in the habit of having your last GCD before a Rampage always being a BT or BB. Never Slam or WW right before Rampage unless you are actually overcapping (as long as you are enraged). That solves the points where you press BT and everything is on CD and you dont have rage for Rampage

This is not necessarily true for aoe though

[barren dagger]

Rule of thumb i’ve read on here is you should press bt/bb essentially every other gcd

On aoe i would just prio ww stacks over everything

[stuck bison]

I felt like i am enlightened. Thank you

If No overcaping+ enraged send bt before rampage

[fading sky]

well cant blame em tbh its fair enough

[fading sky]

coz if u dont wanna buy token u can just play the game to get gold. ^_^ but most of us are lazy and earn more money rl. just a consequence of gettin older

[clever belfry]

just updated quel serrar

[fading sky]

its more of a crime no 2h

[still swift]

2 handers are fake im not even holding my 2nd hand on it

[still swift]

yea i wanna use it

[clever belfry]

ok then go play 🅱️rot

[fading sky]

well im using on prot

Pala

coz who the F wanna play prot warrior

^_^

[barren dagger]

Im leveling rouge for the true smf experience

outlaw is like fury but actually good dmge right?

[fading sky]

hmm rouge is so flavour of the month // years

[barren dagger]

Sounds good

[fading sky]

yup

basicly and talent tree has more or less fixxed rogues imho

and 1 of the 3 specs will always be good in M+ and or raid

coz they are so different

id say rogue is a pretty safe bet for a good class for a long while

[barren dagger]

but what is the added utility everyone talks about in rouge

[fading sky]

blind

stuns

cheat death

[barren dagger]

Ah yes u can blind incorp right

[fading sky]

idno man i play warrior

i zug

😄

but it has loads

it has some psn shit as well for raid

[barren dagger]

blind/sap/gouge/cheap shot/kidney

Issa lot of buttons though

[still swift]

i forget to press my defensives because its fun to get hurt

[wide egret]

[worldly shard]

anyone want?

[still swift]

Don chu look at me like that

[wide egret]

[still swift]

everyone knows tanks are masochists

[wide egret]

Thats not incorrect.

[pulsar prawn]

1 month until weed is allowed here. So yeah stock them up. I threw my 10 others away

[sullen tendon]

how is this an item being releasedin 2024

[fading sky]

What u mean looks or poly?

[sullen tendon]

both

[fading sky]

Coz many orcs in old gear

Prob want that

[sullen tendon]

its one hand

[fading sky]

Transmog needs both until they upscale old gear

So?

Orc rogue

Tanks

Keep in mind i didnt buy it
Im just saying its for moggers.

[sullen tendon]

they need to update the game engine

its not just this item

all newer items have the same issue if you zoom in at all

[fading sky]

And u never play zoomed in

So its prob just to much constraint on systems

Unless they manage to make game use sev cores and all that which i doubt is easily done

Also engine has been updated many times. Start classic play 10 min then say retail looks bad😅

Maxxed settings wow looks good

[dire vigil]

It looks great, but these older looking armor and weapon appearances look even worse in comparison. Blizz needs to hire Tomkek

https://youtu.be/xo_IDyMkMyw?si=KrTOBgzTvObXgYBX

He recently graduated with a degree in something like graphic design and has several videos of creating graphical updates to popular items that Blizzard hasn’t touched

[pine narwhal]

Is there a way to become imune to stun/move speed debuffs for a while?

It's insanely annoying trying to walk somewhere while being constantly harassed by enemies

And you can't even run because they slow you constantly

[dire vigil]

Fly

[pine narwhal]

When flying is not an option of course

Like in closed spaces

[summer quail]

isn't there a thing where tanks can't be dazed? maybe i'm misinformed

[fickle bluff]

that is a thing

[summer quail]

well there you go

go tank spec

[pine narwhal]

I'll take a look into the skill tree, thanks!

[oblique trail]

It's not in the tree

It's just a hidden passive for all tanks

[pine narwhal]

Ohhh, good to know! Even better then

[oblique trail]

Alternatively if you're in a dungeon/raid where you can mount, this mount equipment is good

(Forgotten mechanic)

[eternal sundial]

Very important in maw

[pine narwhal]

Thanks! Also very useful

[eternal sundial]

They also cant be melee crit by mobs

[errant vessel]

Something that should be the case for all specs (or at least melee ones)

Also parry should be replaced with 5% less dmg from the front

[modest condor]

how about parry should just be removed

[oblique trail]

I love getting my CD parried and I get no effect from it

[summer quail]

colossus smash parry

old touch of death parry

[still swift]

I love listening to banezi rage at parriee

while I haven't ever noticed it happen

[oblique trail]

You notice nothing

Idiot

You don't even press interrupts

Average caster with a 45 second interrupt pov

[still swift]

at least I still spec into it in case something happens

you're just so fast and strong I don't get to do it

[oblique trail]

Next time I will let all the important casts go through until someone else interrupts

To let everyone else have a chance

[barren dagger]

Season 4 dungeon rotation when

[still swift]

all df dungeons minus doto

done

[barren dagger]

Is this drake talon cleaver from classic?

[barren dagger]

That would be a massive L

[still swift]

I mean it's about expected lol

[barren dagger]

What did they do for fated in SL?

[still swift]

fated sl was all mega dungeons + 2 vote based wod ones I think (grimrail and iron docks)

something like that

[narrow narwhal]

i went to sleep and woke up and banezi has the same pfp

[unreal onyx]

you are still sleeping

this is a dream

[oblique trail]

this is new

Not keeping track of lore

[still swift]

banezi didn't look as sassy before

[narrow narwhal]

i must have went to sleep late

[still swift]

this one is very smug

[bitter palm]

zinrokh

low poly

still looks cool asf

but its locked behind months of archeology

so i cba

years of archeology

[modest condor]

decades of archeology

[oblique trail]

I'm sure there is still some people who has farmed Arch since Cata and doesn't have it

[modest condor]

i wonder if i can check how many troll artifacts ive completed

[mossy fox]

i lost my mind trying to farm zinrokh when archaeology was new

[modest condor]

i think i've completed over 200 troll artifacts

this was back when each digsite only had 3 or 4 digs as well

[eternal sundial]

Im also 20ish deep no luck

[humble plover]

Ahh destroyer of time. I gave up on that lol

I want the great apocalypse 😦

[regal grotto]

I managed it fairly quickly the super glowing one hander from tol vir and the mount are non existent though

[sinful spoke]

nah how tf are these one handed swords man

[vivid idol]

He’s holding them with one hand

[frigid zealot]

Did same never found it

[light stump]

smolderon hc - if I pop cooldowns on pull, will they be up in time for the phase 2 with extra damage part? / when do you guys pop cds on smolderon?

[eternal sundial]

you can pop on pull but u need to delay orb pickup

[unreal onyx]

on hc too? I feel like the last time we did hc i1 was earlier than myth

but I could be wrong

[still swift]

I BEEN SAYING

[unreal onyx]

I bought the 1H and 2H

[eternal sundial]

its same timing

[unreal onyx]

true, just checked myself

it starts at 1:10

[pulsar prawn]

just recolor from millonaire vendor

[unreal onyx]

tp one looks cooler

[outer umbra]

Why can’t we just get a 2h version or better yet hear me out this may be blasphemous to say but what if we could just mog 1h weapons oh my god

[somber elk]

first week with legy got more invites than last 4 weeks together

[dire vigil]

8% damage increase is big

[charred estuary]

Just saw this in the new warrior hero talents

We really won 🙏🏻

[oblique trail]

Only took an entire expansion

[charred estuary]

Fr

I’d be interested to see how they implement it

Im hoping they take some of the power out of that second tier of class talents

[summer quail]

wonder how much we won tho, if they just placed shockwave higher in the tree and didn't change anything else that's not a huge win

[charred estuary]

I mean it would make me personally happy

I don’t like giving up third tier dps nodes for a cc that other classes get without losing any power

The crit and execute damage would be nice bonus to have on top of a regular cc in M+

[modest condor]

yeah they're not gonna do that

[summer quail]

i doubt they're gonna do that as well tbf, just thinking of the worst case scenario

[fluid cedar]

Fury rework when

[slim coral]

Don’t celebrate too much this is just one change that still doesn’t address a lot of talent tree issues

[barren dagger]

Don’t we lose like 2% crit on ST to pick up shockwave?

[summer quail]

yes, we're not talking about current shockwave placement tho

[barren dagger]

Yeah just saying it’s not the end of the world for keys

[humble plover]

I feel like no matter where they move it I'm gonna be upset about what I lose to get it

[fallen ginkgo]

Let blizzard cook

[barren dagger]

Does anyone at blizzard play warrior?

[humble plover]

Rn it's some crit damage. Later its storm bolt

[barren dagger]

They play lock and mage right?

[oak garden]

Just give us the choose Option between the HP shout and BL shout

That would be nice

[barren dagger]

storm bolt is a given come on

[fallen ginkgo]

99% sure they dont but they play ret mage and wl 100%

[sinful spoke]

just make both shockwave and SB baseline

🤷‍♂️

[fallen ginkgo]

Real.

[summer quail]

can't just make everything baseline. would remove the point of talent trees

now what should actually be baseline is berserker rage, had that ability baseline for so long

[humble plover]

I'd like to see them leave shockwave where it is and make it AA instead with shockwave baseline

Still have to talent storm bolt and it makes the capstone actually interesting

[charred estuary]

Sorry I’ll try to be unhappy mb

[gilded pawn]

If anything it makes more sense to baseline the ST stun and talent the AOE stun

[humble plover]

True

You get the general idea tho

[worldly shard]

almost ther

[coarse nest]

Get buffs, you can do the rest in one more, kill end boss twice

[worldly shard]

here we go again

[coarse nest]

[worldly shard]

only thing i wanted in this season was leggo mog

got it

now time to hit 3k and piss off

[summer quail]

last epoch looking weird

[worldly shard]

lol

[coarse nest]

Worth?

[worldly shard]

this one is better anyways

[summer quail]

yes, more advanced than diablo and you don't need a 500 step guide to play like path of exile

[worldly shard]

i wasnt dumb and i didnt buy reforged btw

269 iq

d2 resurrected is great tbf

theres some great improvements when i compare it to OG D2 when i played back in '08-'11

[fading sky]

tbf if u wanna play D2

play medianXL

[worldly shard]

i used to play a lot of LoD private servers

back in the day

never actually beat WC3, even though i enjoyed dota mod lol

[fading sky]

Same was loads of good mds

But median is still veru much gettin updates 24-7

[proper veldt]

worst legendary system ever designed

[humble plover]

I preferred this to the legion ones. Took multiple patches to get all the ones I needed

[merry jetty]

Any1 knows how BLP work? Like I've got more than people who've killed fyrakk since week one (started early january), does that mean I have the same chance as them or no?

[gilded pawn]

only major embers matter much

the minor ones dont really do anything

[merry jetty]

Greater ones? I've got a bunch thru Mythic raid

felt like it was a catchup mechanic

cause now I dont get them anymore

[gilded pawn]

well you get 1 greater ember per fyrakk kill

not sure how you can get more through doing regular mythic bosses

[merry jetty]

Well I got a bunch of them at the start, as I said

now, not anymore

felt like a catchup mechanic but i dont know

[gilded pawn]

thats not how its supposed to work but you do you

essentially you are garuanteed the leggo after 14(?) heroic fyrakk kills

its on wowhead somewhere

[summer quail]

unless you killed fyrakk multiple times you did not get a bunch through mythic

[gilded pawn]

ok i thought i was missing something

like you can catchup to the # of embers avaialble

also the wowhead article says embers literally doesnt do anything

the tracker ticks up when you get the kill

which doesnt make sense with a catchup system

[storm rune]

MedianXL is fantastic, brother laz the goat

[burnt stone]

Hello brothers
Are you an APL expert?

Is this possible as a condition of APL, "when the player's Haste is above N%"?

[fading sky]

Yeah once in a while i do a 20 hour playthrough

[gilded pawn]

🧎‍♂️

there should be, and if theres not, haste and GCD is correlated

so you can look at GCD instead

its somewhere in the documentation

[storm rune]

Do those god awful instakill witches still roam around?

[fading sky]

Think so

I havent played in sev seasons

[storm rune]

Yeah I think the last time I played was when the first preview of D3 dropped

My recommendations might be nostalgia speaking at this point

[burnt stone]

This part has already been sorted out through archi's simulation.
Since I'm free right now, I'm simulating the use of lego.

"actions.trinkets=use_item,name=fyralath_the_dreamrender,if=dot.mark_of_fyralath.ticking&(buff.enrage.up|buff.bloodlust.up)"

Currently, I have added a condition that can shorten the casting time of Lego using the Enrage buff or Bloodlust buff, but I would like to change it if I can simply change it to when Haste is over 50%.

[gilded pawn]

i dont think it'll be a dps up

because you would rather be pressing your abilities with bloodlust up

rather than channeling a leggo

[subtle lagoon]

Speaking of legendary, I keep forgetting the on use

[red peak]

I have a question

What happens if you get kicked mid raid and the legendary drops?

It just happened to me. and Slight concern its gone

[burnt stone]

I never thought about getting kicked out lol

[dire vigil]

Why did you get kicked wtf?

[red peak]

I ate a frontal like an idiot

[dire vigil]

How do you know you got the axe?

[red peak]

I dont

Thats the question

[calm kiln]

its push loot so it would have gone to you automatically i would think, but not sure. It doesnt actually drop in raid

[red peak]

Because he's known to be bugged if you get kicked mid raid

[bitter palm]

shouldnt consume the chance

[red peak]

I stg though I was wplaying shite, but only that last death was my bad

Everything else was down to people jumping in with bombs

Even this time the tank moved the dam cleave on me

[dire vigil]

Sounds like a scuffed run lol

This game houses the worst bad actors in all of gaming

[red peak]

Eh, I mean I can take I wasnt playing well

[dire vigil]

Still, kicking mid boss fight is both dumb and pointless

[eternal sundial]

Gets mailed on mythic so

[red peak]

Oh they were "Mythic" raiders

One of the tanks was tanking on the wrong side of smolderon. (opposite to the direction of travel)

Ranged kept blasting us with tornadoes too

[dire vigil]

Mythic 1/9?

[red peak]

9/9 allegedly

LIke fuck it im 1/8

1/9

But yeah, I was having a rough night

I know the mechanics, dont understand why I was struggling

[dire vigil]

Do you have AOTC?

[red peak]

ofc

This wouldhave been my 12th kill i think

[dire vigil]

Ok

[red peak]

I just exploded, only think I can think of was that it was the frontal

[burnt stone]

This is simply a simulation out of boredom and curiosity.
I know that archi's official has already reached a conclusion about when to use lego.

Image 1. Take the potion after using lego
Image 2. Take potions and use lego at the same time.

Since leggo's damage is not affected by strength, I naturally thought that using lego and then consuming potions would result in higher dps, but there is no difference lol

[dire vigil]

45 dps is incredibly insignificant

[burnt stone]

Yeah, I'm saying there's no difference 🙂

[dapper goblet]

🧎‍♂️

[barren dagger]

what's the poiint xd

"incoming SOD class tuning"

[warm crag]

does anyone even use the legendary that way

[barren dagger]

where my 15% aura buff on retail madge

[burnt stone]

Basic APL uses lego after taking the potion

[barren dagger]

"we've decided that since fury is useless as fuck in keys, we're buffing them to be the absolute kings of the dps meter"

ty blizz

[red peak]

Yep so I have apparently killed Fyraak

No loot

Nothing

Fucking shit

[dire vigil]

Ok, youll likely get axe or ember in the mail

[sage smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[red peak]

You know how long that takes?

[dire vigil]

No idea

[red peak]

If i was removed with more than 1 min to go, it would have made me illegible for loot

[dire vigil]

But you got kicked right at the end?

[barren dagger]

they will probably send you 2 axes for the trouble

world first dual wielder

[red peak]

No ate a fucking Cleave and got kicked phase 2

[dire vigil]

So did you try to get another kill after?

[red peak]

Yep, and Im raid locked

[dire vigil]

Ok

[red peak]

But I would have no loot rights

[dire vigil]

Well idk. But I think that groups shouldn’t be able to kick people while the group is “in combat” in instanced content

[red peak]

Tell me about it

LIke sure if we wipe kick me

[dire vigil]

That’s horrendously stupid and a giant flaw in game design because people are c***s

[red peak]

I fucked up, I can take it

But I imagien my legendary just sitting there, and thats it

[dire vigil]

I’d go on the forums and try to ask someone more versed in this

This seems very nuanced

[red peak]

I mean, I imagien this is actually a non issue

Its just a lost roll

[dire vigil]

There is no roll for the leggo though

[red peak]

No you roll on it

As in for it to drop for you

[dire vigil]

Yeah, idk how that works in the context of personal vs group loot. Like how is this different from leaving a key early and then they 4-man and you get a piece of loot in the mail

^another lame thing lol. But im using it as an example

[red peak]

I just have this image of. it dropped for me, iots on him, but becuase i have no loot rights thats the end of my legendary journey

[dire vigil]

That won’t happen

Also, you don’t loot it from the boss. When you kill it, something auto loots to your bag

[red peak]

I just hope that fyraak kill counted towards my klill counter

[dire vigil]

Check your profile on battle net because you can look at your boss kill count in the raid

By character

Or maybe just from warcraftlogs

I forget how I was checking

[red peak]

Oh shit

I have 14 kills

Im guaranteed it next week lol

[dire vigil]

I think you were guaranteed it this week

[red peak]

Uh

[dire vigil]

Uhhh shit

[red peak]

Oh fuck your right

[warm crag]

14 kills or 14 greaters

[red peak]

that was kill 14

[dire vigil]

If you don’t have an ember or axe in the mail in the next hour, I’d start filing tickets or something

[red peak]

yeah

Can you imagien if I broke the fyralath quest

[unreal onyx]

you mean 14th hc kill?

[red peak]

Yes

Thats me atm

[dire vigil]

This wouldn’t be an issue if adjusting your party or raid could only be done out of combat

Not like a new person can join while “encounter is in progress” anyway

[warm crag]

i mean this isnt an issue ever

just a unique bug with the way fyrakk dies

[red peak]

Wait so its guaranteed right

So I had no reason to do it on heroic

[unreal onyx]

why

[red peak]

Because at 14/14 its guaranteed

[warm crag]

if you had 14 greater embers from hc difficulty before this week, killing it again at hc or higher should drop it for you

[unreal onyx]

afaik only 14 hc is "guaranteed"

[red peak]

Well rip

[unreal onyx]

since hc "adds more %"

from how I understand it

[warm crag]

what week of the raid are we in rn

[unreal onyx]

so hc is 7% per ember, nm is like 5% and LFR is like 3% adding up

(I made the numbers up)

but 7% should be equal if it takes 14 hc kills to get it

[barren dagger]

its 15 kills from the start no?

[unreal onyx]

15th week rn I think

[warm crag]

ye but legendary only became available in week 3

idk if the first 3 weeks are included

[unreal onyx]

I think not

bc embers didn't drop until then iirc

[red peak]

is there a way to see how many embers you have consumed

I know their supposed to be meaningless anyway

[unreal onyx]

not sure if the WA tracks retroactively

[warm crag]

dont think there is an in client way to track greater ember usage

[red peak]

theres a W/A?

I'll do it out of client

[unreal onyx]

just check when you killed hc first

[warm crag]

tell me what you find out

[unreal onyx]

and count from there if you did it every week

[red peak]

On Raider IO iut says I have 13 kills and the first time i did it was 10 weeks ago

[warm crag]

so you have 10 greaters

or less

[gilded pawn]

Wowhead has a macro in the embers data mine I think

[humble nimbus]

hi guys, as fury,should I spam execution whenever I can?

[devout totem]

no

[marble stratus]

if you don't have an empowered bt and you need rage, and it's up... sure. If you have a BB no

the iconic ability that should hit harder than anything else, does not in fact, hit harder than anything else

[red peak]

No I have at 13 - I've killed him 14 times

[humble nimbus]

thanks

[warm crag]

but if your first kill is 10 weeks ago and you killed hc every week then you have at most 10 hc embers

you're currently operating on the same logic as that guy who killed it 90 times in the 2nd week and said he should have legendary by now

[red peak]

Wiat your right

Im an idiot

Ugh

So I could actually miss out on it still

Have they announced S4 start yet? i thought it was may

[warm crag]

no official date afaik

[edgy widget]

that's only lessers, not greaters

it's really not that complicated lol - just look at the date of your kill

but realistically, there's no reason not to keep killing it till you get the weapon either

[covert blaze]

[edgy widget]

Execute actually does hit harder than everything else baseline

[summer quail]

it just tricks you since it hits twice and you look at highest hit

[edgy widget]

you also only use it for 20/35% of a given encounter

[upbeat sentinel]

The solution is an entire tier of “weakened” god tier bosses that all start at 20-35% health

I’m a design genius

[covert blaze]

What was the last boss like that was like that

Taloc?

[umbral galleon]

ok can someone link the new rotation

[upbeat sentinel]

If you include dungeon bosses there was one in one of the dungeons this expac

I forget what it was called

[oblique trail]

There is no new rotation based on that change, you still just use it before or after CDs based on the fight you're on, while Enraged

[upbeat sentinel]

He went immune and you had to use the orbs on him

[warm crag]

i will obliterate you

[umbral galleon]

awesome

thank youu

[oblique trail]

I will place Death and Decay underneath you so my obliteration hits you and nearby targets

[covert blaze]

dk rping?

[umbral galleon]

so reck>charge>rampage>leggo?

honestly clueless haven't even read the tooltip, will read the theorycrafting on it but just blind asking

[oblique trail]

If you have to use it immediately due to timings on a fight sure, you can do it like this, but it's otherwise awkward since you'd have to re-enrage after the channel is over since by the time it's over enrage is about to drop. Typically the most convenient time is after your CDs since by then you have also stacked Frenzy

[umbral galleon]

i'm a dumb himbo i always think aoe first

on aoe should that be the opener

?

[oblique trail]

No

Just use it after CDs in AoE as well

[umbral galleon]

use it after i pop avatar

last cd on rotation

?

[oblique trail]

No after CDs means after your CDs are down

[umbral galleon]

opener*

yeah

so as avatar is last on opener

after avatar

[plush acorn]

he means after the avatar buff wears off

[umbral galleon]

ahhhhh

is it worth that much downtime?

or is it a case of we have no window on our opener to use that shit

[oblique trail]

If the pack is dead by the time your CDs are gone, you just use it on the next pack on pull, it depends on the pack you're on and the urgency of them dying

[umbral galleon]

aoe speaking still

[oblique trail]

As I mentioned above, you do have a window to do it in your opener, you can do it after you reck + charge -> ramp

Yes I'm aware it's still AoE

[umbral galleon]

so as a i said

[oblique trail]

But you don't gain any immediate benefit popping your Legendary instantly in your opener, AoE or not

[edgy widget]

as it says in the pins, it really doesn't matter when you use it - the best time is always whenever it will line up best with encounter timing to not get you killed

[umbral galleon]

i was about the read the pins after this discussion was over, pardon me archi

it was suposed to be a quick question

about the opener

on aoe

[oblique trail]

Typically it's best to do so before it

[edgy widget]

it's really kinda impossible to say "always use it here" because situation will dictate - if its available and using it won't get you killed, you might as well use it

[umbral galleon]

be smart about it

is that all that is

[edgy widget]

there's also some Mythic+ tech where you can try to funnel damage into a single target, which is more of a case by case basis thing

[umbral galleon]

i'm currently only doing m+

[edgy widget]

pretty much - you wanna use it on cooldown or close to it, but you don't want to risk killing yourself with it just to use it

but yeah, either use it before Avatar or after it ends is the general rule, as to which just depends on the situation at hand

[umbral galleon]

thank you for the clarification

that's probably in the pins

thank you all that contributed to this convo

it was really helpful

i literally just got leggo

[young swan]

you are welcome

😎

[umbral galleon]

and was wondering if the rotation changed or sum

[young swan]

(i helped)

[umbral galleon]

xan was there for motivational help

[plush acorn]

u cant use the active anyway cuz u cant get into keys

gl

[young swan]

banezi is my alt account

[umbral galleon]

fake news

[young swan]

notice how u have never seen us talk at the same time

curious isnt it

[oblique trail]

very curious

[umbral galleon]

that was combined

[young swan]

exactly

[umbral galleon]

or is that so many are just lurking on this chat

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

[umbral galleon]

or is it larping you teens call it

[sudden tusk]

more

[covert blaze]

both weebs

Checks out

[umbral galleon]

OH THE LEGGO IS A FUCKING CHANNEL

[young swan]

u r literally a weeb

[young swan]

yes sir

[umbral galleon]

THAT SUCKS ASS

[covert blaze]

no (I am delusional)

[umbral galleon]

lmao

[sudden tusk]

Rize pfp hmmge

[umbral galleon]

i need to undrop this shit so i can go back to my vengeance dh

[oblique trail]

This is why you want to be Enraged, as the haste makes the channel faster

[covert blaze]

Did you just mistype my wife's name

[umbral galleon]

yea

[young swan]

if esdeath put u on a leash u would like it

freak

FREAK

[umbral galleon]

this is so fucking sad i'm still delusional it isn't

[covert blaze]

yes

[sudden tusk]

would you want to rise to the occasion

[sudden tusk]

is she a reeses penut butter cup

[covert blaze]

Spongie bullied me cause I apparently set my pfp as something banezi had before

And I changed it again

[oblique trail]

when did this happen

[sudden tusk]

i dont know how to spell it i dont pay enough attention to mange stuff

[covert blaze]

2 days ago I think

[sudden tusk]

its about time for me to change pfps too

[covert blaze]

@oblique trail it was a moshimoshibe pic

[summer quail]

high chance of that happening anytime you swap tho

[oblique trail]

At least you have great taste

[covert blaze]

real

[covert blaze]

[covert blaze]

I caught up to the manga today
It's bussin frfr

[summer quail]

what manga?

[covert blaze]

Chainsaw man

go read it if you haven't

@young swan I read 50 jjk chapters yday

I'm up to date

[young swan]

holy moly

how depressed

scale 1-10

[sudden tusk]

i keep see people posting mange spoilers in open pages on twitter

im an anime only nerd

[young swan]

gg

sorry for ur loss

[storm rune]

anime is for the refined soul

[young swan]

im a leak enjoyer

love reading the new chapter in japanese at 3 am on thursday

[upbeat sentinel]

Axe on use is just a “whatever” for every spec apparently lmao

Frost just pops howling blast and full sends during the opener

We use w/e

[covert blaze]

I did this for years for snk

[covert blaze]

elevate yourself

[storm rune]

Just another button to press

[covert blaze]

this could be misinterpreted i apologize

[covert blaze]

very

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-meme-gif-23342140

[covert blaze]

it wasn't meant to be toxic

😔

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pillow-bite-angry-angry-cat-gif-25541136

[covert blaze]

manga hits different

[summer quail]

don't like the mc in chainsaw man, all caught up with jjk tho

[covert blaze]

He's really funny

But I get what you mean

[sullen dove]

he's cooler recently

but man is down horrendous

early on

[covert blaze]

Yeah I was gonna say

[sullen dove]

still kinda now but it was like pretty disgusting early on

bro eating vomit down his throat like nah

thats not important to the plot man

who adds that

[covert blaze]

Don't read fire punch

(do it)

[sullen dove]

why this todoroki lookin ass look so derpy

flat ass face

[covert blaze]

wtf toxic

[sullen dove]

bro out here lookin like zuko

[covert blaze]

don't diss my homie fujimoto like that

https://youtu.be/BJUbLM8coho?si=C4ga2rwOUNzDihSw

[upbeat sentinel]

Na bro double down

[dire badge]

todoroki made up his back story so people would feel bad for him Agni is a real man

[summer quail]

okok so worth reading on then? he was down too bad for me early

[sullen dove]

yea i mean hes still a lil bit of a freak its just not 90% of his character anymore

feels like to me at least

maybe down to a decent 50-60%

[covert blaze]

Give it another try

There's so many characters that even if you still don't like him it will still be worth your time

[summer quail]

aight

[umbral galleon]

legendary sucks ass change my mind (feels opinion)

well i guess if i just feel like it

there isn't changing my opinion

i just don't like casting shit

[young swan]

u shouldve tried it before it was hasted!

[summer quail]

the legendary itself does not suck ass, the randomness and questline suck ass

[young swan]

feels great now!

[clever belfry]

like 4 people could m8

[umbral galleon]

i'm not saying dpswise

i just dislike casting something

[young swan]

skill diff

get better

[summer quail]

doesn't even feel bad to cast anymore to

tho

[umbral galleon]

for u

see

[clever belfry]

so true

i will proceed to 7

[oblique trail]

can we 7 hand in hand

[clever belfry]

sure bud

[oblique trail]

thank you bud

[clever belfry]

but now i shall sleep

for tomorrow is a big day

(this was a lie im doing fuck all)

[oblique trail]

Sleep well bud

[clever belfry]

😎

[oblique trail]

neither am I bud

[covert blaze]

xan ahh comment

[oblique trail]

Xan experienced the 13th month

guess it's only accessible for legendary owners

[summer quail]

fkn hell banezi, stole my joke

[young swan]

and the 15th month

kinda wacky that i experienced the 15th month before the 13th dont u think

[oblique trail]

A lot of things are outta line just like you being one of the first to get the lego

[clever belfry]

Americans

[oblique trail]

sorry toxic

[covert blaze]

me when my country uses an idiotic system

[young swan]

jealous

mald

get better

[clever belfry]

yyyymmdd is bis

but ddmmyyyy is FINE

[covert blaze]

Koreans use that i think

[oblique trail]

I am jealous because I had to spend 12 weeks without the funny weapon

[clever belfry]

any archival or storage system also uses that

[bitter palm]

didnt deserve it i guess

[covert blaze]

just didn't want it enough

[summer quail]

i think the opposite, wanted it too much

[fleet sorrel]

It’s not good - xan

[clever path]

Hey just feel solace in the fact next tier the legendary is gonna feel like trash to play cause tier 2 doesn’t give us a chance to use it :p

[dapper goblet]

22k sim increase 50mil damage in keys bad because 2sec cast time (didn’t matter)

(He poggers out about draught of souls)

(Longer cast)

(Hates am but likes cof)

[fleet sorrel]

(Season 3 voter)

[clever path]

I mean it’s just fact season 2 is constant and if you stop at all it just crushes your damage

I’m hoping they tweak it to make it feel better but eh

It’ll work whatever they do

[fleet sorrel]

uh huh

[dapper goblet]

Uh huh

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-witch-doctor-mano-tiki-tia-gif-15319797

[broken river]

For high keys on Tyrannical weeks is it ever worth it to run Dancing Blades over Titanic Rage?

[bitter palm]

u always want to play dancing blades

10% more damage on of is nothing

compared to the st gain

and fury is a prio/st bot anyway

[broken river]

play DB even on Fort Weeks?

[bitter palm]

yes

[covert blaze]

db every week

[fleet sorrel]

“St bot”

[cobalt kernel]

whats the heavy diminishing returns % on vers and mast

[balmy shore]

LOVE DANCING BLADES

[summer quail]

doesn't matter

sim

🤖

[sullen dove]

leggo doesnt do more dmg with strength right

fake news

not that its news

[summer quail]

yes, big fake news

[sullen dove]

[floral sequoia]

Cant believe Ive done heroic every week and still dont have leggo

thats crazy

[waxen wave]

Next week is the guarantee, no?

14th week out

[upbeat sentinel]

2 weeks

15th kill (14 embers) is gaurunteed

[silk nebula]

where is corejo

[clever path]

Hes dead

Along with kelade

[nocturne dragon]

but if 14th week then the chance should be big too right? even if not guarantee yet.

[upbeat sentinel]

If you've done full clears every week you'd have 30% off the Greaters and +1.6% for every lesser

probably smth stupid like 20 lessers at that point

[warm crag]

source on the 1.6 lesser thing

[gritty sigil]

tryna make a simple guide for fury warriors basic CDs for a friend. does this make sense and am i right or wrong to be ending on BT every time for my filler rotation or should i sometimes just cut straight to rampage? too lazy to calculate the value of a % chance to reduce the CD of OF along with the rage gain vs loss of bt vs rampage so meh....

[dapper goblet]

long live kelade

[half cargo]

🧎‍♂️

[balmy shore]

what happened to him

[half cargo]

Don’t think I’ve seen him play DF at all

Last stream I saw was in zereth mortis

[waxen wave]

It’s 0.6 per lesser per wowhead

[hardy cargo]

"energy for rampage"

[gritty sigil]

pff

[hardy cargo]

[gritty sigil]

you knew what i meant -.-

[hardy cargo]

[tidal kindle]

He's a dad now

Playing DF, Dank Fatherhood

[gritty sigil]

damn i cant use my custom emojis here 😦

[sullen dove]

can use stickers in recently used tho for some reason

or i think even if you type them in

[sudden tusk]

long live yazuka

[outer umbra]

bro how is this not a 2h

[sacred lantern]

It’s kinda sad because Quel’Denar was 2H, but the original Quel’Serrar it’s based on was 1H only.

[sullen dove]

whered bro go

he was yappin every day on cd during 10.1 and wasnt a complete freak

dont think so at least

free my king

[sudden tusk]

he ran out of money p sure sometime mid S2

[sullen dove]

had to leave server for dat tho?

everything reminds me of it...

[sudden tusk]

i mean i kinda get it

[gilded pawn]

like literally out of money

or just didnt wanna pay for a sub

[sudden tusk]

if he really did run out but really enjoyed the game would you stick around get get constant reminders of it

i dont know him well enough to say but i did see him mentioning needing to buy him and his brother food once or twice

[gilded pawn]

oh dang that sucks

[sudden tusk]

so i do hope him and his brother are doing better i'm not that sure of his situation since he went poof after

[gilded pawn]

if hes from NA i may be able to help

but oh well

[sudden tusk]

no hes EU p sure

[young swan]

think hes scottish

[tidal kindle]

Was in a rough spot, had to sac some stuff to make ends meet

[pure breach]

Morning !!!

[summer quail]

Nice day for fishing ain't it

[bitter palm]

no such thing as a bad day for fishing

[sudden tusk]

hope hes doin well poor yaz

he was a nice dude