fury

[clever belfry]

think we had 260 on non lobotomized version

@oblique trail gato

[final birch]

we had 300

before p3

[clever belfry]

man i dont know

how u guys can handle that

[eternal sundial]

Loud music and alt tab spam

[fading sky]

i mean health nerf deffo is big for p3 part ngl bout that

[clever belfry]

i already listen to loud music so true

[clever belfry]

it practically doesnt change anything in p1/p2

p1 is timer phase
p2 is 40% hard phase (no ones gonna hit the timer phase here anymore SURELY)

[fading sky]

i mean iit changes a lot though like roots die easier

[clever belfry]

you may skip a mech at end of p2

[fading sky]

u can hold the bl until p3

[clever belfry]

i mean u already could

or youre a real king and lust p1

to play the shortest p2

and i can guarantee you

root hp nerf does fuck all

you were 100% already killing them with last flier

[silent burrow]

You act like everyone has the option to be in groups that kill fast and decide not to lol

[clever belfry]

a lot of it is complacency

🤷‍♂️

ofc im always gonna be hyperboling cause thats just the way of the internet

[silent burrow]

Most of us are just along for the ride on someone else's train though, we can do our part and have to wait for everyone else to get onboard

[clever belfry]

but being complacent about 3 people chain wiping the raid

[fading sky]

i mean we had so many tries where we fuck up where boss what at like 5-7 %

would deffo have made us kill it faster

less time to fuck up is a good thing

[oblique trail]

325 pull moment

(gonna be same on Fyrakkus at this rate)

[eternal sundial]

Or just being comfy and not wanting to swap the entire time

[clever belfry]

never said it wasnt?

[eternal sundial]

Even though possible

Applying to guilds is aids man hate it

[oblique trail]

I just had a copy paste application I sent everywhere where applicable

Saved a lot of time

[clever belfry]

applicable so true

yeah even the forms msot guilds have now

u can just ctrl+c ctrl+v big sections

[eternal sundial]

Friend of mine just DMs them that form broke, sends logs and asks for a discord call

Would work but holy fuck i cba

[oblique trail]

Compared to real life job applications I'd rather send 20 guild apps

[lavish grove]

Why tf would you send resume to a guild

[unreal onyx]

I never applied myself to a guild

I had myself as „looking for guild“ on wcl and had 7 guilds msg me

[eternal sundial]

Send a 3d print of your genitals too

[oblique trail]

If your logs and prog is good you'd likely have at least some guilds approach you

[chrome plover]

same

[unreal onyx]

I wanna play a video game and not work another 9-5

[lavish grove]

About right

[tardy lark]

I would need a industrial sized printer

[lavish grove]

Only on wow progress 👴

[eternal sundial]

9-5 rules out so many guilds for me

Well having a dog does

[fading sky]

we killed it 477 or something sadness 😄 ( tindral that is ) 😄

[oblique trail]

Yeah I could not handle 477 pulls

Was already on the verge of not wanting to play at 325

[fading sky]

so many of those pulls thought where just ppl fackin up in p1

at least they fast

[lavish grove]

Yea, the boss suck in that regard

[eternal sundial]

Banezi my guild totalled 474 on sark

[lavish grove]

1 mistake - wipe

[eternal sundial]

[lavish grove]

[eternal sundial]

Mental meatgrinder

[lavish grove]

Wtf

[oblique trail]

I didn't play S2 but this sounds extremely wild

[unreal onyx]

How so?

[eternal sundial]

The thing is about 100 kills before actual kill a guy single handedly threw kill 3 times

[eternal sundial]

Dogshit bomb trolling + p1 being turbo horrible

[shy knot]

If I had 450 on second to last boss Id be playing a different game lmaoo

[eternal sundial]

I was definitely still playing wow and enjoying that boss

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/IV158B9.png

[lavish grove]

Sark was alright

[oblique trail]

wtf is this

[lavish grove]

[oblique trail]

is this Loboz or

[clever belfry]

sark was best last boss this xpac

LOBOZ BUILD

LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD LOBOZ BUILD

[eternal sundial]

Lobozo

[lavish grove]

[clever belfry]

me when i blast more burst

[lavish grove]

Still wasnt amazing

[oblique trail]

We can fit in one more burst window

[clever belfry]

i think its a quite good boss honestly

[clever belfry]

NO WE CAN NOT

THE AMOUNT OF BURST WE HAVE IS

TOO MUCH

[oblique trail]

LOBOZ WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN

[lavish grove]

I really liked the part where he dies in like 7 min instead of 15

[eternal sundial]

Sark was good but i definitely had a bit too much if him

Rasz fun too

[eternal sundial]

Absolutely though visibility coulda been better

[chrome plover]

sark best last boss since denathrius

[clever belfry]

bro i dont remember shit about dena

my mind is tainted from SLG

and being drunk every raid ig.

[chrome plover]

slg was no bueno

[final birch]

u think I dont

I blast music

I cant hear most of the words they're saying

[lavish grove]

Yea, classic blizzard design. They fixed it a bit during patch, but could be better still

[oblique trail]

Had to be drunk for Rasza prog

[final birch]

I'm automated

[oblique trail]

That boss genuinely tormented me

[final birch]

dodge beam, do bomb, press buttons

brr

[lavish grove]

I liked raszageth

P3 intermission was bad

[eternal sundial]

Sark on warrior was boring

[lavish grove]

With elementals

[clever belfry]

bro i had several people in my last guild

perma mute

[eternal sundial]

Rasz decent

[clever belfry]

cause i could not be fucked hearing them speak

[eternal sundial]

Yee completely wasted phase

[final birch]

idk I just cba

I tune myself out

nobody in particular I guess

[clever belfry]

didnt play that 2 ez

[eternal sundial]

I still have that for like 4 guys

[final birch]

just overall

I dont need to be focused on that boss

[clever belfry]

nah for me it was specifics :3

[eternal sundial]

Our former mage was one of those mute andies

[final birch]

skull

[eternal sundial]

Im so happy he left man

[final birch]

we had 1 guy that was talking a lot

but he was a vibe

he left this tier

[eternal sundial]

We have a bunch of yappers

[final birch]

it was giga fun then whenever he was saying because he was talking ironically 90% of the time

like me

[eternal sundial]

But all are bearable

[clever belfry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/760863355417919508/959967559048904714/asmuss.gif

but with mage

[final birch]

and apparently

most of the people in raid

had him muted

LMAO

[chrome plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/887041391308455958/1077903187962499102/user-volume-discord.gif

[eternal sundial]

Oh go

[lavish grove]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-turn-down-arcane-mage-gif-27420484

[eternal sundial]

I had our other warriors muted for a bit

[clever belfry]

so true

[covert blaze]

me

[silent burrow]

I'm the guy that might say 0 words all of raid lol if I don't have anything real to add I keep my mouth shut

[bitter palm]

for me it depends

on how the raid is going

hhahaha wiping to seeds ahahahah

aint shit to laugh about

[eternal sundial]

Whisper emoji enjoyers

Nothing else

[oblique trail]

I just blast music, and if the raid goes bad it goes louder

[bitter palm]

same

well

i started doing it on tindral

[covert blaze]

I only speak to ask for rebuffs

[hasty path]

I yap

[silent burrow]

Same bro. I can't fuckin stand people not buffing

[covert blaze]

not even for me btw, anyone dies and they are missing a relevant buff i q my mic

[silent burrow]

druids are worst offenders

[bitter palm]

afk players

why is bshout on a cd

i hate this game

[covert blaze]

cause we have no mana

[bitter palm]

i have to hold bshout when i respawn

arcane intellect is like

.4 mana

[silent burrow]

It gives me anxiety to wait for people to take res after a wipe

[bitter palm]

same

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/no-mana-gif-18293544

[eternal sundial]

I rip it on respawn and on pull timer

[silent burrow]

Same, but it still stresses me out when people wait to respawn and then my shit is on cd

[bitter palm]

they limited bshout because of that appreciation venthyr shield

[covert blaze]

i just wait for readycheck/pull timer

[bitter palm]

ans then they removed it

[silent burrow]

That shield had a cd though

[bitter palm]

ye idk

bshout on a cd makes no sense

[silent burrow]

I used the fuuuuck out of that shield though man, that shit was so good

[bitter palm]

in general

raid buffs like bshout shouldn't have a cd

[clever belfry]

someone didnt play uldir ptr

(which is fair enough that shit is YEARS ago)

but yes, they need a cd xdd

[silent burrow]

what happen

[clever belfry]

warrior could spam BS and it was

fucking annoying

like

really annoying

[unreal onyx]

I bet there is some cheese strat with some kind of ability or item that applies when one target gets affected by a shout

Like the anima power in torghast

[warm crag]

bshout was a defensive in sl

theotar moment

[bitter palm]

👴

[silent burrow]

Yeah but token had a cd

so it didn't matter if you could spam your buffs anyway

[covert blaze]

that sounds disgusting

[silent burrow]

It was amazing tbh

[unreal onyx]

Free absorb

[warm crag]

if you unironically ever pressed bshout because you were afraid of dying you needed god

[unreal onyx]

The more people you hit the bigger it was iirc

[silent burrow]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=336245/token-of-appreciation

[clever belfry]

just remove

raid buffs

[unreal onyx]

I used it for HPS logs I think

[silent burrow]

The bad ass part about token was that it stacked lol

You'd get 4+ of them every time

[unreal onyx]

You got it by reapplying bshout when 1min of it was missing

[warm crag]

woahh crazy!!!!

[unreal onyx]

So you could get a 19x shield every 1min

[silent burrow]

Yeah but people had to be playing it

[clever belfry]

-1000 gcds

[warm crag]

you did not have a raid of 19 people that played theotar

[silent burrow]

^

[unreal onyx]

True

[clever belfry]

force them to

for lIVING

[unreal onyx]

You could’ve

[silent burrow]

That shit was so clutch on painsmith intermission though

[warm crag]

think about it you can convince your entire raid team to play theotar venthyr and probably int super hard so you can press bshout as a defensive!!!! (or press spellreflect and prevent the same amt of damage probably)

[silent burrow]

our healers were on the struggle bus on intermission

Me feeling comfy

[unreal onyx]

Intermission dmg coming in was rough

[unreal cape]

people are pressing bshout as defensive?

[craggy moss]

hey guys when we use legendary active in aoe opener?

[warm crag]

reading comprehension is difficult

[silent burrow]

Intermission trucked lol

[unreal cape]

yes

[unreal onyx]

I literally only read the latest msg and make up the context

[clever belfry]

or press IP cause fury had that for some fucking reason

[warm crag]

i will not press an 80 rage IP

[unreal cape]

yeah, is there any other way?

[clever belfry]

sometimes

[unreal onyx]

No

[clever belfry]

u had to live m8

[fleet sorrel]

[warm crag]

i think i pressed ignore pain while bladestorming a few times thoughts

[unreal onyx]

Use rage to live or lose rage by dying

[silent burrow]

Yeah for sure

[unreal onyx]

Signet my beloved

Blessing and a curse

Depending what you got

[warm crag]

signet irrecoverably ruined warrior design forever

[unreal onyx]

Fury uncapped bladestorm when?

[unreal cape]

fury MT cap removed when

[covert blaze]

find god

[silent burrow]

idk, high rolling signet in the right situations felt amazing

[unreal cape]

does anyone in here believe blzz gives us lust one day

[clever belfry]

AM and (this is a bigger problem actually) UF making reck have inf uptime so it can never be a real cooldown

[unreal cape]

or is that

[silent burrow]

getting double BS on anduin intermission

[unreal onyx]

Signet could be your best friend or worst enemy

[eternal sundial]

Real

Skillbased (rng) proc hell

[sly zenith]

Always

[strong swan]

I loved SL m+ with signet and Night Fae first strike, was amazing

[eternal sundial]

Ehh

Kyrian better

[strong swan]

I didnt like using spear

[eternal sundial]

Kyrian did large dam tho

[silent burrow]

[eternal sundial]

L boon

[silent burrow]

typical

tbh

[clever belfry]

wow cool dmg profile

0 pad involved

surely

[eternal sundial]

Uhdk ass peak

[silent burrow]

Don't give me buttons for spin and expect no spin

https://tenor.com/view/chair-spin-spin-chair-spinning-chair-gif-26292822

[eternal sundial]

Fr

[clever belfry]

bladestorm has been erased from the history books

[bitter palm]

good

[silent burrow]

Our threat was so cool then too

hey you do tank threat, here's a button that cranks on everything around you and you have to stand in this circle with everything that's mad at you

[covert blaze]

threat ripper 3000

[clever belfry]

kendrick lamar - m.a.a.d city

[silent burrow]

was big blammo

[eternal sundial]

I hate perma reck

I hate perma reck

I hate perma reck

[eternal sundial]

No enrage

[dire badge]

the good ole days

[eternal sundial]

Back when uheldigt played

When sussywarr existed

[dire badge]

[silent burrow]

precisely

[eternal sundial]

@dire badge hows the bearings good sir

[slim coral]

the hero talent trees need to hurry up

shoujld be only 3 more hours

if they release it at the same time

[dire badge]

I manage the people who sell the bearings now

[covert blaze]

wait what

there's an announcement today?

[slim coral]

yes

8 trees

are getting shown

[clever belfry]

great

8x dogshit

cant wait

[dire badge]

And I will destroy them all they are the bane of my existence

[slim coral]

surely slayer will be shown and it will be goated

[eternal sundial]

Incredible gain very nice

[covert blaze]

pogfrog

[left perch]

He has increased his wages and size of his cages

[dire badge]

very real

[slim coral]

[stuck bison]

Hopefully slayer will be pog because i dont like the idea of playing thunderclap on fury

[glad coyote]

just give us something better to deal with incorp and afflic so we can get invites better

[clever belfry]

just remove those dogshit affixes

[glad coyote]

bring back orbs

[clever belfry]

no

in 99% of cases that shit was alos just relegated to a healer affix

which is also not fun.

[glad coyote]

in pugs yes

but if your in a premade shit was cake

healer just said help and we all switched

i always helped

[stuck oar]

Question as im new to warrior completely, can i run the t31 build if i just freshly boosted a warrior to play around with?

[bitter palm]

fury in a +32 ad

ez timed

no need for 4th dps

[silk wharf]

Certainly. It wont do very well, frankly because the talents themselves are tuned rather poorly. But it should give you a basic idea of how it plays. if you plan to continue warrior in to fated I believe s2 won the tier set vote which means talent swapping back to anger management anyway.

[rigid stirrup]

This

[clever belfry]

posting "this" is certainly one of the things

[covert blaze]

deez

[clever belfry]

nuts

[left perch]

[covert blaze]

kock & sack

[clever belfry]

kock & sack eisenwaren

hamburg

[barren dagger]

Trees when

Slayer when

[covert blaze]

so ready for disappointment

[balmy shore]

swayer

[stuck bison]

Thunder clap on fury > slayer

[silent burrow]

It sounds like you'll be clappin cheeks so I'm fine with it

[barren dagger]

I just realized mountain thane was for fury too

But its dog right?

Just cool flavour

[silent burrow]

Idk, sounds cool to me. As with most things I think it depends on tuning

[bitter palm]

no

the design is dog

[stuck bison]

I dont wanna spend 2 points on tc but maybe they ll also rework warrior tree

[bitter palm]

i dont want

random ravager cdr

random exe dmg increased by 5%

i want some synergy

there is none

double layer rng

on ava procs

[stuck bison]

Yikes those unaligned cds

[rigid stirrup]

Do we not get to use Shockwave in fated ?

[stuck bison]

+if you also play am it may be dog

[bitter palm]

what

why not

[barren dagger]

What if im orc and im thunderclapping like muradin bronzebeard tho? Kinda cringe and destroys muh fantasy

[bitter palm]

🤓

[barren dagger]

Ye ye ye

We all nerds here

[rigid stirrup]

I might be mistaken but I don't remember running it in season 2 for keys or maybe my talents were just fucked and I could've and used intim shout instead

[stuck bison]

You could use shockwave s2

[rigid stirrup]

Oh wait I'm just bad

Hmm I wonder why my tree was so fucked 🤔

[upper juniper]

You could always use it, just have to give up dps

[rigid stirrup]

I must've put it into cruel strikes or something

[runic violet]

Awww server down?

[vale reef]

Every Tuesday at this time

[rigid stirrup]

It'll be up in an hour max

[outer umbra]

No augury = no raid say it with me

[runic violet]

my head hurts

[dense elbow]

I read that just fine, it is a fair statement. But... I expect 0 followthrough.

Strikes me as the player who gets Aug in vault, keeps it there - waits for raid, it drops, doesn't get it as he bragged that he had it waiting in his vault. Guildquits.

[outer umbra]

perhaps

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[outer umbra]

ty

i just want my augury

[dense elbow]

Just get a LFR or normal one, costs about 200k

[outer umbra]

[dense elbow]

[bitter palm]

definitely worth it

surely

imagine people palying like

1 mil

for a heroic one

and then going into a key

[dense elbow]

Seen em sold for 2mill

[bitter palm]

and seeing it do 3$

3% overall

[runic violet]

what's augury

[lapis lion]

why does it matter to you, just dont be poor

[barren dagger]

I get consistently 6% or more on overall but i guess it’s rng

[lapis lion]

1 mil is really nothing anymore

[covert blaze]

I bought a normal one for 50k a month ago

idk how

[dense elbow]

that is a steal for sure

[barren dagger]

The ilvl doesnt influence proc rate does it?

[dense elbow]

Nop, just dam

[covert blaze]

that would be very funny

[dense elbow]

It would be kinda funny if they did that, true. The seething would be true and real

[barren dagger]

Guess proc rates are always unknown

[dense elbow]

Sometimes it procs perfectly, you do bigus damus, or it kinda dont proc at all, smollus dikkuz

[bitter palm]

how does tmys augury proc twice as much on a 3 min fight

[covert blaze]

tmy built diff

[bitter palm]

496 vs 489 augury diff

[dense elbow]

Should've woke up with left foot down first, not right.

Telling ya, it is important for em logs

[late grotto]

may be a dumb question, but how do you buy them if they're BOP?

[eternal sundial]

He is the jailer

[covert blaze]

you can trade raid gear

with people that were on the boss with you

[late grotto]

ah so in raid you would offer it to ppl or pre-agree?

[covert blaze]

ye

[late grotto]

ty

[covert blaze]

someone wins an item roll and you whisper them an offer

[left perch]

yea there’s like a 3 hour window on the timer or smth

[covert blaze]

No augury again BatChest

[clever path]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BABY

34 AD's

and i get it in vault

[runic violet]

oh.. server is up

I got cloaks...

i got a cloak last week

[nocturne dragon]

that periwinkle is good?

[runic violet]

think I'm going to pick up the leg

i need tiers

[barren dagger]

Sim my friend

U can sim all vault options

Until a certain point i would blindly follow robot tbh and just change trinkets for raid and m+

[acoustic furnace]

Yeah but if he needs tier he should take tier

4 piece is prio over everything

[thorny lily]

anyone who have simit already, the bracers that gives versa is better then a 489? with other embeleshment? i dont have raid bots premium 😦 takes a while to simit

[eternal sundial]

Depends on ur gear

[thorny lily]

i guess i can use it for tank anyway

[acoustic furnace]

Vers bracers sim higher than a 489 pair with vers/mas for me and I'm 488ilvl. So I'd say to run them.

[neon sapphire]

but why do you hate bladestorm

[barren dagger]

Yes and if he sims that he will see a clear difference vs all other options

[acoustic furnace]

It does mediocre damage.

In exchange you get: Slowed for 6 seconds (potential death sentence), cannot kick or CC for 6 seconds (potential death sentence), and you waste 6 seconds worth of globals.

If I'm playing arms I'm using the whirlwind build no matter what.

[nocturne dragon]

how we use this function again?

like I somewhat remember there is vault option but forget where exactly

[neon sapphire]

Yeah but did you ever charge > bladestorm into 20 people in AV on live wotlk?

[oblique trail]

You don't get slowed and you don't "waste" 6 seconds worth of globals

That's like saying the Legendary on-use is 2 seconds worth of wasted globals

[barren dagger]

You go on raidbots and paste your simc link. Your vault options will automatically appear there. You just click all of them and the sim will only consider 1 option per iteration

[acoustic furnace]

It is def a waste. Literally only use it for bonegrinder. If you like it great good on ya but I personally think it's shit. MS+SS will outdps most of the time unless you're big pulling.

[oblique trail]

Use it for Bonegrinder

Good one

[vocal fog]

another fucking greater week jesus christ what is this leggo bullshit

[acoustic furnace]

And I wouldn't compare it to Lego bc Lego doesn't take up my talent points or remove my sanity

[modest condor]

since when does bladestorm slow you?

[acoustic furnace]

Maybe it just feels like I'm going slower idk but it feels like shit to press that button and I'll die on this hill

[oblique trail]

More power to you

[neon sapphire]

I think you are currently dying on that hill

[oblique trail]

But what you described is not it

[modest condor]

yeah you definitely are

[acoustic furnace]

Whirlwind build is both more fun and better

Nothing further to say

[mossy fox]

dont you literally gain movespeed from hurricane

[clever belfry]

yes

[mossy fox]

i get not liking bladestorm but you definitely dont get slowed

[chrome plover]

I only hate bladestorm when it procs 50% of the time when I press a button that is not bladestorm :)

[supple summit]

wasted globals, also just read hurricane

[clever belfry]

we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet
we love signet

[neon sapphire]

he loves signet

[modest condor]

pulling 20 mobs and getting an avatar proc

[calm swallow]

I actually did like signet..

[modest condor]

the torment system is so much better than signet

[acoustic furnace]

I must be insane I fuckin SWEAR bladestorm slows you

Or it used to at least

[calm swallow]

I agree with that, mostly cause I like having OF and never liked being locked out of my rotation during bladestorm, but I enjoyed it while it was there before Torment was a thing

[calm swallow]

Nope, if anything it speeds you cause it removes slow/immob affects

[neon sapphire]

think ur insane

[scenic quest]

Only goes for some npc's I think

[eternal sundial]

Hurricane makes u go faster

[clever belfry]

sadly hurricane does not make u spin more rapidly

[bitter palm]

dont

its heroic

hero track*

you can farm them

[eternal sundial]

I wish arms bs was hasted

[bitter palm]

in m+ and catalyst

and get the same legs

[pulsar turtle]

how much

blp

do u need

to get lego

guarnteed

i legit

[eternal sundial]

15th HC kill is guaranteed apparently

[pulsar turtle]

dont understand this man

[pulsar turtle]

15 kills or 15 full clears.

i have 29 blp

[covert blaze]

damn biz called that guy an npc

[pulsar turtle]

and ben farming this crap non stop

[hasty path]

Zhaidk is an npc

[covert blaze]

460 doing more overall than your main

[balmy shore]

bro got called an npc 💀

[pulsar turtle]

anyone know

about blp

[hasty path]

Viktorfrost must be a god amongst men then

[pulsar turtle]

% and shit

im so confused how i still dont have lego man

[covert blaze]

💀

[hasty path]

Do you have fire stick

Or is it tonight

[balmy shore]

could be tonight

could be next week

[hasty path]

Surely

[balmy shore]

idk the % if you have a mythic greater ember in the mix

[hasty path]

Are you guys raiding this week

Or taking break

[balmy shore]

we're getting everyone that sat their fyrakk kill this week

[edgy widget]

big news cometh

[sullen dove]

[balmy shore]

real or fake

[sullen dove]

agane huh

slayer hero talents surely

[hasty path]

How many is that

Bc that could be an undertaking that requires some reprog

[balmy shore]

3 i think but yea a few of them have pulled since we had callouts almost every week so hopefully not too bad

i have bad hands rn and sitting for most of reclear

[hasty path]

Ah that’s not terrible

[balmy shore]

yee

[hasty path]

I think we have 2? Plus our treasurer but I think he’ll get his later on in farm

[balmy shore]

ez

[hasty path]

And I just remembered we have Smolderon skip so idk if we’re gonna use that

[covert blaze]

smolderon deez

[pulsar turtle]

does critcake

have lego yet

[sullen dove]

ya

[candid falcon]

this game is so good

[proper peak]

Nice

[sullen dove]

holy rewarded for 0 effort

[pulsar turtle]

I think im the only warrior now

in top 20 world

[sullen dove]

thats gonna be me

[pulsar turtle]

who hasnt got

for m+

[clever path]

why are these so different?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/41p2odXNTEEWfnXj2XX1SL
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k36x9piEvLutX2SYSSZtRC

[pulsar turtle]

legit so tilted.

[balmy shore]

next week 100% ya?

[pulsar turtle]

lmfao i dont even know

[candid falcon]

last two weeks I got a 483 twisted bark band so my luck is on the up and up

[balmy shore]

if you clear hc fyrakk every week then yea

[pulsar turtle]

How can you farm something for 3 months every week

[candid falcon]

fyralath today i hope

[pulsar turtle]

and not get like wtf

[balmy shore]

yea idk

i could be right there with u today

[pulsar turtle]

ive cleared

every week

[balmy shore]

yup

[sullen dove]

its only a 100 dps difference?

[pulsar turtle]

How many weeks has it actually been

[sullen dove]

not even

50 dps

just random sim variance shit idk

[clever path]

look at the sims dude

[balmy shore]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/datamining-fyralath-legendary-drop-rates-bad-luck-protection-values-revealed-337807 if u wanted to read the article from last week

[candid falcon]

do you all sim dungeon slice for mythic+ or something else

[sullen dove]

what sposta look at

the ourobourealis necklace in your top gear sim doesnt have gemsockets in place

[pulsar turtle]

Has it not been 15 weeks

[sullen dove]

which is why its showing as worse

[pulsar turtle]

already?

[sullen dove]

its been 13 weeks of the leggo being available

15 weeks since the start of the tier

[pulsar turtle]

gotcha

[proper peak]

looks like I'm taking 6 tokens today and I don't even need the sockets

[pulsar turtle]

damn man

so worst case 2 more

weeks?

i guess?

lmao

[sullen dove]

no sockies

[balmy shore]

ye so next week is 100% because it'll be 14 weeks

[clever path]

thank you, been looking at the 2 for a good 5 minutes confused af

[sullen dove]

now thats kind of a dub

crafted in both slots

sf cape but methinks necklace is the play

3 ilvl bump high mastery

[barren dagger]

This bis for high keys?

[sullen dove]

i mean idk its proly good

lots of verse

[barren dagger]

The shield too

[sullen dove]

not that big and only really "relevant" in like... 2 dungeons

but sure

extra survivability is extra survivability

like 100k shield every minute would be idk like 2.5million ish nature damage shield over the course of a dungeon which might add up in like.. everbloom

but not that many things do nature dmg i dont thnk

[barren dagger]

Atal/dht/eb?

[elder maple]

yo dudes. the time has come to play my alt fury warr. question about enchants, do you play double sophic devotion ? (1 two-handed sword, and doti two handed axe, if it matters)

[sullen dove]

o i guess some of the poison shit in atal would be nature

[covert blaze]

where the fuck are the tress

gib trees

🌲

[balmy shore]

🎄

[covert blaze]

crit phial procs it

[barren dagger]

You can also proc the fire shield with crit flask no?

So it kinda nice

And augury deals fire?

[sullen dove]

used to earlier in the expac with lower ilvl but more common to have 1 wafting and 1 either sophic or sometimes branching into frozen/earthen writ

but can sim for those kinds of answers

[covert blaze]

shadowflame patch also procs it afaik

don't quote me on that tho

[sullen dove]

yea we have a ton of fire dmg from random shit to proc nature shield

ig crit phial would work for fire but also unethical crit phial to proc ethical fire dmg shield

[elder maple]

@sullen dove ty for the answer. considering i'm still under 450 ilvl, i can just play double sophic probably right ?

[sullen dove]

when could just verse phial and prolly have more dr

[elder maple]

449 atm

[covert blaze]

you should sim it, double wafting has been the go to all patch for me personally

[sullen dove]

yea maybe, not exactly sure when it swapped so unless its like tuff to sim sure

either way enchants prolly arent that big of a deal at lowish ilvls anyway

[elder maple]

aight ty !

[sullen dove]

could just get rank 2's unless you are big moneybags and r3's dont matter to you

[elder maple]

also while im at it, the mythic plus build for fury in wowhead is good or nah ?

[sullen dove]

uh ya, the one with odyns and annihilator should only be when you have 4set of the new tier

before that should use ravager/anger management etc

[restive peak]

I AM OFFICIALLY A LEGGO LINC GAMER

[elder maple]

❤️ ty

[sullen dove]

holy

[covert blaze]

YOOOOOOOOO

[candid falcon]

congrats ‼️

[covert blaze]

lincc can play the game

[runic violet]

I just got 2 set... switched to annilhilator... no?

the ilvl difference is too much :0

483 vs 447

[sullen dove]

eh you are able to switch to anni talents but idk i think its 50/50 whether ppl do or not since it kinda does feel meh without full 4set

[candid falcon]

you can play annihilator odyns at 2 set, the downtime feels lame as balls

but it's probably worth switching over

[sullen dove]

at the very least you can try dropping onslaught talents for odyns fury talents and still sorta keeping the same rotation

bit of a cursed hybrid but idk if its that bad

[runic violet]

just to check.. does heroic raid drop aspect crest? no right?

[sullen dove]

or if youre not overly attached to ravager am anyway you can just to get a feel for it

no

[balmy shore]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[runic violet]

icic

[sullen dove]

aspect is mythic raid or 16+ dungeons

[runic violet]

got it

[sullen dove]

can also convert 90 wyrm crests to 15 aspects if you have a ton of excess

er no

i think thats only if you got the achieves that say youre done needing to use those crests

[covert blaze]

476 in every slot

and then you can trade wyrms to aspects

[sullen dove]

yea

[eternal sundial]

YESSSSS

[candid falcon]

How do you all sim dungeons? I've been using dungeon slice, is that actually any good

[covert blaze]

you can sim ST and just use aoe trinkets for m+

[candid falcon]

wait really

[strong swan]

I ve been told here to sim patchwerk 5 bosses 5 min and its pretty accurate

[covert blaze]

that skews trinket value

[sullen dove]

yea thats fine except just small amount of thinking must be used for instances of if it says like signet brand is incredibly gigachad good on 5t 5min

realize youre pretty unlikely to be in 5 minutes of full combat on 5 mobs always

[restive peak]

❤️

[sullen dove]

and so most runs/groups csb isnt that great

[restive peak]

❤️

[restive peak]

❤️

[sullen dove]

but if youre playing around it then it can be good especially for boss dam

[restive peak]

Finally no more pink boi

[balmy shore]

LINCC GAMING

[candid falcon]

i'm simming these 5 trinkets, i might just run signet brand and my new rezan's and call it good

[sullen dove]

ember way better than brand

for like 98% of content

unless u are hard keeping up brand

[candid falcon]

even raid?

[sullen dove]

no

just m+

[balmy shore]

greater ember

[covert blaze]

I would run ember + rezan until you get a might to replace rezan (m+)

[unreal onyx]

greater ember is bis

you should aim for that

[candid falcon]

thank you for the advice!

[candid falcon]

and thank you as well

[sullen dove]

[candid falcon]

the vers is just that good huh

[strong swan]

So how to you sim for aoe?

[balmy shore]

vers is sick nasty we love vers

slurp vers

[candid falcon]

lol

[quiet geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

When archy says news coming and leaves us hanging

[sullen dove]

i usually just.. dont but really idk if theres any perfect science to minmax

[covert blaze]

you sim for ST for aoe

[sullen dove]

like almost every upgrade on single target will be the same upgrade on aoe with crit being maybe slightly more valuable in aoe

[covert blaze]

and use m+ trinkets

[sullen dove]

so can take that with slightly a grain of salt then yeah just knowing what trinkets are good and why

[covert blaze]

yeah and crit from might usually gives a good amount

[sullen dove]

like if you really want you can compare 1tar 5min and 5tar 5min and see if it says to use any different gear but its probably not gonna be that wildly different, and just keeping trinkets out of the comparison to either check what people use on like idk what website shows it subcreation maybe or something or just ask here

[strong swan]

Alright, thank you

[candid falcon]

what bloodmallet thinks about AoE value on trinkets

[sullen dove]

or yea bloodmallet is fine

[candid falcon]

damn. might of the ocean goes crazy

[sullen dove]

ya strength on use that perfectly lines up with cooldowns does go kinda hard

[candid falcon]

makes sense, it's a raw strength cooldown

[sullen dove]

sadge ember isnt as high but whatever i think its not like the most insanest damage trinket it just provides a lot of defense value at the same time

such is the life of verse

[candid falcon]

yep

is the 2 second silence worth anything

or is that just not real

[sullen dove]

its not rly necessary anyway till like super high keys regardless

i mean you might get like 1 or 2 casts lol its not anything youre tryina play around with probably

[silk wharf]

not real. its proc rate is really low.

[sullen dove]

200 dps neck i will be taking that if only to have my ilvl be .1875 levels higher

ilvl most important stat, actual damage numbers

[humble plover]

I lost the 1st mythic augury to the other warrior and I'm sad about it cause I would have been 489. Not the actual DPS increase

[sullen dove]

real

[dire badge]

get Joe mogged

[humble plover]

Lmaoo

[red yew]

Real

[sullen dove]

[humble plover]

He deserves it, man got ruined by the leggo for so long

[dire badge]

literally every tier he’s owned

I got first gavel over him

[humble plover]

He's hasn't had too bad of luck outside the leggo

[amber arch]

Whats up with people using ember in M+? Worth taking or is it just for high keys to not die?

[sullen dove]

mostly the second thing

still a good stat stick in lower lvls if you have nothing else

[humble plover]

We don't die anyways

[sullen dove]

but augury/might are better

for pure dmg

[amber arch]

Im running crab and Might now, should I swap to Might + Ember?

[humble plover]

Yes

[amber arch]

no augery for me and I dont want to run signet

[sullen dove]

not sure about how it is vs crab

[silent burrow]

basically a vers phial innit

[amber arch]

ya im already at 24%

[sullen dove]

i mean ey its also at 489 too which isnt too shabby

[humble plover]

Pretty sure it's better than the crab. Good combo before augury

[amber arch]

Murloc.io shows people using it

[sullen dove]

crisp as shit

[dim meadow]

The vers is really nice for higher keys and the proc is nice but nothing amazing. It's like a save ur life tool if ur kick are on cd, but only if it procs lol

[humble plover]

Nox runs ember might every key I think and he's managing pretty well lol

[bitter palm]

very strong stat stick

vers is always desirable

[modest condor]

realistically ember is only really needed once you get to 31+ keys to live 1shots

but it's never a bad idea to use more vers if it doesnt stop you from being able to time a key

[bitter palm]

hot take

augury is overrated

[modest condor]

that is a hot take

[barren dagger]

yeah im a noob i dont use ember at all since having augury+might

[eternal sundial]

shrimply proc more

[dire vigil]

Augury is 🐐

[humble plover]

It kinda blasts so hot take indeed

[bitter palm]

if i had an ember at same ilvl

[amber arch]

ya its more for dps since im at like 24-25 level right now

[bitter palm]

id play it over augury

[clever belfry]

gl getting 496 ember

[sullen dove]

496 ember holy

[amber arch]

so myth ember probably better than heroic crab

[clever belfry]

absolutely

[modest condor]

i dont think many people have a 496 augury either

[barren dagger]

496 augury holy

[bitter palm]

fury chat

i thought this was arms

[humble plover]

I get in vault after reclear for sure

[dim meadow]

lol

[clever belfry]

just get it or

[modest condor]

[dim meadow]

wrong hood homie

[modest condor]

damn why didnt i think of that

[bitter palm]

ye on fury augury fucks

[clever belfry]

np king, always happy to help

[snow flower]

Still no legendary this week.

But I did get a second Myth weapon, finally 🙃

[barren dagger]

Fucks even more on ret

[modest condor]

grats

[barren dagger]

i love getting gapped by rets

Huh

[humble plover]

I dont

They got a buff

[high basin]

hopefully i will tomorrow

[humble plover]

Where mine

[bitter palm]

were u dogshit

every day of the expansion

[modest condor]

the secret to not getting gapped by rets is to just not play with rets

[bitter palm]

except a single week

i'd rather

be mid

always

than dogshit for 99% of the time

[hasty path]

I’ve been dogshit every day for over 24 years

[humble plover]

^

[barren dagger]

i invite a leggo ret into every key. Its just free dmge and brez and utility

[modest condor]

i mean when it comes to pugging m+ there's no difference between mid and dogshit

[bitter palm]

warriors will never be meta in m+

[modest condor]

you're gonna be waiting 2 hours either way

[bitter palm]

we would need to do

ABSURD

dmg

to be taken over mages n shit

[humble plover]

Is that too much to ask

[modest condor]

you mean like destro lock in sl or fire mage in s2 levels of absurd damage?

[barren dagger]

We need to do absurd dmge

[bitter palm]

ye but

those are main character

classes

locks and mages

warriors arent

[dim meadow]

We are at times, it's just shift a lot cause of gearing and utility/ damage

[humble plover]

Warrior kinda main character ngl

[barren dagger]

warrior is main char just 15 years ago

[bitter palm]

if by at times u mean s2

ye fury pre aug and mage

[dim meadow]

💯

[bitter palm]

was very strong

not meta

but closest we've been

to meta

[modest condor]

people were preparing fury warriors for tgp

and then .5 hit

[bitter palm]

ye but u wouldnt play one

in every key

lair was a massive one

[silent burrow]

That was such a sad time, when they came out with aug and we went from actually towards the top to nobody outside of exodia mattered

[bitter palm]

hoi

[lavish seal]

guys im ready for depression

[bitter palm]

etc

[bitter palm]

same 5 specs

every single key

top 100 runs 5 same specs

[modest condor]

seeing that graph that showed class diversity at title range lmao

nice mix of classes and then bam 95% the same 5 specs

[humble plover]

Warrior used to look promising, then everything changed when the Aug evokers attacked

[silent burrow]

The graph that showed class diversity by date and when aug came out

was wild

[eternal sundial]

aug good for game

[bitter palm]

its not just because of aug

blizzard forgot

about warriors

everyone else

got 15 aura buffs

we got nothing

[modest condor]

fire mage, guardian and holy pally all got reworks in the same patch as well

[humble plover]

This is where my patch notes would be, IF I HAD ANY

[bitter palm]

we will be broken on rework

11.0!!!!!!

[lavish seal]

100%

[barren dagger]

Is this on raider.io?

[modest condor]

no

[humble plover]

Next patch for sure

[silent burrow]

Gonna be cool, we get rework for fated when nobody cares

[modest condor]

was some picture on reddit

[humble plover]

Thank God shattering throw kills incorp

[bitter palm]

i dont want

utility

i want damage

fuck utility

[lavish seal]

i want more utility

[bitter palm]

ye gl

[humble plover]

Agreed

[bitter palm]

doing rogue duty

[lavish seal]

[bitter palm]

in keys

[lavish grove]

If only someone would take the throw

[glass harbor]

I just want big DAM

[silent burrow]

damage > utility

[humble plover]

Let me continue to mongo. But at insane levels

[silent burrow]

I don't want job, I want bonk

[hasty path]

Have any reworks not resulted in insanely broken specs

[lavish seal]

no

[glass harbor]

Let the ZUGZUG rein

[hasty path]

Even havoc and Ret had short lived insane success but got batted down way faster

[humble plover]

Monk will

If they remember that class

[lavish grove]

Wait until warrior rework

[covert blaze]

someone ping me when trees drop i cba

[storm rune]

This is an AM hot take, PM tends to agree

[barren dagger]

Imagine if storm bolt killed incorp

But noooooooo

[hasty path]

@covert blaze

[barren dagger]

Thats too complicated

[covert blaze]

🙂

keep safe

[livid arch]

okay, i don't understand something. why would a 476 mirror of fractured tomorrows be simming for 1600 more dps than a 480 might of the ocean

[south kayak]

Keep danger

[barren dagger]

You simmed 2m?

[livid arch]

nope, just resimmed and its still 900 up lmao

closing the gap

[covert blaze]

what are you simming

for how long

give some info please

how can we help you

[livid arch]

2 minutes patchwerk 1 boss

[edgy widget]

that's why

[covert blaze]

[humble plover]

Sounds like he wasn't simming 2 mins and got 1600 then did sim 2 mins and got 900

[livid arch]

bingo

the mirror is still up 900

[humble plover]

Might isn't great st. Better AOE burt

[smoky prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pillow-bite-angry-angry-cat-gif-25541136

[livid arch]

okay, that makes sense

[humble plover]

Probably why mirror is simming better, has strength too

Mirror kinda bait too cause we could have wafting enchant proc (if that's what you run) and could make it a haste buff making it do basically nothing

[covert blaze]

if there are 0 mirror haters in the world... i've died..

[edgy widget]

context is important, instead of "why is x simming y" it's pretty much always easier to just post the sim so other people can see whatever esoteric thing you're looking at

[livid arch]

what is the "correct" way of posting a sim. i was going to do that but didnt want to over post and get hammered on

[edgy widget]

a url

[livid arch]

just a url to the results?

[sullen dove]

ya

[livid arch]

sweet

[edgy widget]

cause if you say Mirror vs Might, we're generally going to assume you mean AoE, since both are multitarget trinkets without a lot of ST value

[clever path]

Mirror also depends on the stat and I'm guessing vers but 3 min trinket

[livid arch]

i just came back to retail this week (skipped season 2), so i lack context on which trinkets are good in which situations still for this season.

might gives good VIBES because 1 min 30s cd really syncs up

lol

[sullen dove]

ya might usually nicer just cuz of that

[humble plover]

Yeah might is pretty good m+. Even short raid bosses

[craggy river]

Will there be a way to upgrade Fyralath in S4? Blizzard said anything to that?

[clever path]

Most i see people use MoO Augury/signet/ember/rezans/pips

[sullen dove]

they havent but it'd be reaaaally weird if there isnt

[livid arch]

there was one for the bow is s4 shadowlands

[sullen dove]

yea

[livid arch]

so i just assumed they would

[clever path]

If it's like sylvanas bow then yes

[lavish seal]

[sullen dove]

evoker leggo prolly also has an upgrade

holy

[humble plover]

Huge

[clever path]

All leggos will

[barren dagger]

Holy

[lavish seal]

its the first decent vault item in YEARS boys

[clever path]

Who you avoiding?

[lavish seal]

my life

[humble plover]

I still haven't looted any tertiary stats this season

[barren dagger]

Avoiding timing keys

[humble plover]

Feels bad man

[clever path]

Avoid 18-24 and u good bro

[lavish seal]

true^

[barren dagger]

I cant im doing 24s atm

[covert blaze]

ummm that's statistically very unlikely 🤓

[lavish seal]

nu uh

[clever path]

Just do 25s

[clever path]

Ignore Zhai he fishing

[barren dagger]

Cant get in ofc

[restive peak]

They sped this shit up bruh

[lavish seal]

i literally have to beg to get into 26s

[restive peak]

I got 25/200 1st SB, was only 14 on my ret

[lavish seal]

[barren dagger]

Imagine skipping key levels as fury. Be watching lfg for 8h straight

[sullen dove]

i mean difference of 9 aint that crazy

just high rolled surely

[clever path]

I don't think i've done higher than 22 on warrior but for the reason I hate fury tier set so

[sullen dove]

you got the guildy alts on deck to buff you up

[restive peak]

Swordish I love you brotherman

But like

25 minus 14 isn't 9

❤️

[sullen dove]

fuq

[restive peak]

xD

[lavish seal]

sword gotta go back bro

[clever path]

12?

[sullen dove]

11

[restive peak]

Hashtag warrior brain problems

Need an alt to juice me asap, doin 1st tattered leaf rn

[humble plover]

[clever path]

Our brain lags more than wow servers

[sullen dove]

but like yea idk i think theres gotta be some insane variance in how much can drop cuz with 3 visible buffs and an extra likely invisible buff ive gotten 80 leaves and 90 leaves from 2 seperate superblooms

last boss specifically drops a shit ton

37 at a time once

[restive peak]

Jesus

I pray

Ok so like I'm bout to get my 1 tattered off 2nd bloom

How do I get additional buffs?

[sullen dove]

get friends to juice you

ideally guildie alts that may be online

how i got most of my juice

[clever path]

I did one superbloom for leggo and quit

[restive peak]

So how do they get the item to juice me though I mean

[sullen dove]

you use any extra tattereds you have on them