doing big dam always helps
#fury
eternal sundial
clever path
pretty sure we had some DPS with like 20s parses on that kill...
wanton mirage
what I meant was if average performance of the team becomes better, your parse become better even without improving any part on your own.
eternal sundial
pretty sure we had some DPS with like 20s parses on that kill...
We killed smold with auf getting 0 and 7 respectively and i got 93 
bitter palm
clever path
this is the kill log if you wanna see the difference https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NqvAbkZ2HQxyD3dz#fight=24
flat river
<@653287531038900236>
wow
oblique trail
Hopefully now
flat river
Hopefully now
bitter palm
clever path
oh, just dropped
upbeat sentinel
Tertiary trinkets pog
low folio
its been nice not pressing that ability for a season
brittle crow
i almost feel the same way i think
like yea annihilator is rad and it was nice to play it for a full season
but i wanna go back to raging blow
low folio
i personally dont see the big deal between bt and rb. rb isnt that interesting
lone zinc
wasnt nice at all
bitter palm
no wf killed it for me
lone zinc
shit is ass
bitter palm
in m+ its fucking dogshit
in raid i prefer it
if i have wf
s2 is gigga borign on st
2560 apm
and u are the lowest
in raid
flat river
anyone who says annighalator was good misses classic warrior
and we don't do that here
low folio
thats a stupid take lol
oblique trail
Took a while
low folio
annihilator is still basically gcd capped
flat river
my takes are never stupid
bitter palm
anni is annoying
wanton mirage
s2 is gigga borign on st
We gonna get compensated with 2 ST weapons if you manged to get it 
bitter palm
no one wants to press crusader strike
flat river
fuck slam, all my homies hate it
bitter palm
they literally just made us spam bt and press slam instead of rb
and then have a filler
THAT DOESNT GENERATE RAGE
flat river
I KNOW
bitter palm
?????????????????????????????????????
brittle crow
<:detective:912341312907378689>
speaking of slam my offer is still on the table
bitter palm
furious slash looking ass
clever path
gonna feel weird going back to RB, but a good weird nonetheless
low folio
honestly to me slam isnt any less interesting than RB, both exist for just extra rampages
flat river
speaking of slam my offer is still on the table
i'll do it if someone buys me last epoch 
bitter palm
honestly to me slam isnt any less interesting than RB, both exist for just extra...
yeah its just unnecessary
u replace rb
for rb with one charge
the only interesting part
is 
low folio
bt is more interesting
low folio
has more interactions in the tree
brittle crow
u replace rb
bitter palm
has more interactions in the tree
i mean
rb has interactions as well
ss hns
compared to what
low folio
rb is meh
bitter palm
vc bloodcraze
eternal sundial
<@653287531038900236>
:)))
low folio
cshb is more interesting than both the rb talents
bitter palm
cshb is 95% overheal
bitter palm
u will play cshb next season too
low folio
ya im not saying i dislike s2 build, i just dont think rb is the reason s2 build is fun
low folio
ya it is, i prefer the odyns fury thing since its new though, but we should definitely get stronger in M+ with s2 tier i think
well actually we lose some tankiness
but more zug
clever path
It was nice being decent in ST while also not being able to heal without ruining our damage
low folio
ya in this tier i feel like im nearly invincible when wall is up until im 1 hit
eternal sundial
like enraged regen?
its a pvp term
low folio
i dont remember why but i always call them that, i think it was pick up in pvp
eternal sundial
every personal defensive is a "wall"
clever path
I personally can't wait to see how 11.0 talents will work, since what is already released for us gives us tons of nature damage to intertwine with our abilities
eternal sundial
i should set that up someday
eternal sundial
I've even filtered out the Augury damage from my combat text addon
first boss using the item mine did 2% dam and tmys did 10% dam was great fun
bitter palm
every personal defensive is a "wall"
isnt it
major defensive
so like fury has 1 wall
and then defensives like sr
warpaint dstance
wanton mirage
they are called fences
low folio
i always viewed it as the main defensive when doing arenas
eternal sundial
major defensive
mage has 2 walls cuz fair
oblique trail
first boss using the item mine did 2% dam and tmys did 10% dam was great fun
Mythic Aug diffed
eternal sundial
barrier1 and 2 arent walls tho
bitter palm
low folio
im pretty sure mage doesnt have a DR defensive right?
just shields and ice block i thought
bitter palm
ice block is a 70% dr
eternal sundial
greater invis is 60% DR
bitter palm
with the talent u always take
eternal sundial
icecold is 70% DR
low folio
shit im outdated on that lol
eternal sundial
Mirrors image is 20% DR
low folio
i dont even know what ice cold is
proud wedge
wanton mirage
holy priest has 0
low folio
oh thats gotta be newish to this expansion right
eternal sundial
oh and u also heal for 80% max HP during ice cold/iceblock
if u chose to talent into it
bitter palm
isnt it crazy
low folio
well ice block also could heal at different points
eternal sundial
lower cd too
eternal sundial
on a shorter cd
🤝
low folio
mages are always the favorites yes yes
bitter palm
that has been dysfunctional
since s1
(arms)
well since 10.0.5 but pre that the playstyle was straight ass
eternal sundial
love no baseline sweep
bitter palm
which is never
cause u always play db
still no aoe baseline sucks so hard
luckily fights are either aoe or st
still swift
median marsh
in tindral myhthic, i shoudl always pop avatar, reck and roar on adds?
bitter palm
depends on a lot of things
such as when do you go up
in p1
if u are first tell ur rl he is stupid
and go second
on first root u odyns + leggo
on second root u all cds
on third u fly
and then on first roots in p2 u all cds and from that point
its basically on cd
median marsh
i will write it for myself on a note XD
median marsh
also - when to use pot?
i saw this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7WzEO38Lvk
he indeed do as you mention, + pot in first adds
bitter palm
yes u pot on first adds since it bleeds over to the second set as well
u want to use it there
for me it comes back for the big set in p3 which is amazing
if i were to delay it i wouldnt have pot for that set
(we dont deal dmg)
median marsh
tyvm!
cunning fjord
just got my leggo, any tips on how to use it effectively?
oblique trail
Before or after CDs depending on the fight, and while enraged
That's it
There are cases where you can stack up a lot of marks, then funnel them into 1 target by placing yourself properly, like on Tindral with roots
paper ivy
Boys what is this? someone claims to sell this
Is it a scam?
covert blaze
Is it a scam?
yes
oblique trail
Is it a scam?
Obviously
covert blaze
the tooltip was wrong early on
oblique trail
You can link items directly from Wowhead
And change it to w/e ilvl you want to if so desired
paper ivy
Ok ty
covert blaze
Is it a scam?
could be just them linking it wrong
don't think anyone is gonna think the leggo can be 500 when it's 496
cunning fjord
https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688
👍🏼
burnt stone
Hello brothers
Yesterday my 2nd character also reached smolderon 300k.
Even though the kill time was a whopping 7 minutes.
But even so, it's weaker than sub
warm crag
🧎♂️ 👑 🐄
sour frigate
10% diff doesn't sound that bad tho
sour frigate
Hello brothers
Yesterday my 2nd character also reached smolderon 300k.
Even thou...
Do u have glowstick btw?
tardy lark
glowstick = legendary @burnt stone
fossil hatch
he has + 4 pis almost reached sub lvl KEKW
burnt stone
Do u have glowstick btw?
Of course there is lego
I had a hard time creating both characters.
clever belfry
Pay off ur priests or perish
warm crag
gotta click off evoker stuff tho
burnt stone
This is yesterday's Vulcoros record.
The raid leader excluded me from the WFT group to divide the two camps.
So I switched to Arms and did my best.
But you can't beat the sub lol
clever belfry
gotta click off evoker stuff tho
in fact u dont wanna do that on smolderon
warm crag
ya true
clever belfry
U gain dps by having shifting during dmg buff
sour frigate
while rogues with lego were op as fuc
tardy lark
hate xoes
dapper goblet
I have 10 fingers
dapper goblet
Last time I made one of those was in cata
clever belfry
maybe make a swifty 1 live macro instead
burnt stone
These days, I feel depressed every time I play warrior.
Looking at the DPS breakdown, lego and trinkets account for 15-20%.
I don't have any warriors, but my dps seems weak.
covert blaze
Hello brothers
Yesterday my 2nd character also reached smolderon 300k.
Even thou...
🧑🌾 👑
burnt stone
What kind of image is warrior on your server?
On the server I play on, raid leaders think poorly if a warrior's log score is too high.
Because you play selfishly, you conclude that the log score is high.
For example, a warrior with 90-95 points is preferred over a warrior with 99 points.
edgy widget
Why Warrior in particular though? You should be able to make that argument about pretty much any class
burnt stone
Because the range is short, if you give in when you have to increase the distance between you, your log score will be low.
However, I assume that Warriors with high log scores will not yield
One time, when smolderon's flame wave was being generated, the tank kept making the boss move, so I told him not to move because it was too dangerous, and he asked me if it was because he was out of your attack range lol.
When a warrior with a high log score gives an opinion, they assume it is because of dps.
rose bay
My score is low, warrior fine please give raid spot
clever belfry
snow edge
I think asking to limit unnecessary movement to increase uptime is perfectly valid though; if they're interpreting that as a player being selfish that's wild
rose bay
part of it is sometimes tanks just sprint away, and melee have 2 waddle a bit, other times tank move it at a nice pace and its like oh thank god i can hit the boss for a few more gcd
burnt stone
Anyway, Warrior's image on the Korean server is that of a greedy wild boar.
burnt stone
Lately, I want to do M+, but they don't accept me.
autumn mica
As pugging myself i know what u mean. U have to rely on friends or make a group yourself constantly
Warrior just doesn't bring much other than doing damage and being tanky
And don't forget the reflects ofcourse. But yeah it's nothing compared to meta classes ofc
burnt stone
When I recruit people, I wait for them and pick up herbs.
I think I'll be a millionaire soon
autumn mica
🙏🙏
Share me some
😂
I need to try real kimchi from south korea ffs
One day i go
hard horizon
I feel as though I am doing something fundementally wrong? the better my gear, the lower my dps is going and i do not understand why
warm crag
do you have logs sire so we can look into it
hard horizon
Mythic logs are a joke, dead on the kills but its the heroic logs
and its frustrating the shit out of me
I do not have an Aug, or a Leggo, I have Brand 483, Rezen 483 a Branch 483
warm crag
shouldnt matter for 99ing hc
hard horizon
Few others and I feel as though my damage just keeps going down and down
like im 28%ing today
karmic crow
and its frustrating the shit out of me
Your opener isnt correct
warm crag
you're just seeing variance in how well you do in fights equipping better gear (that you simmed as a dps increase) and getting worse real dps just isnt a thing
warm crag
your opener is not correct and im seeing too many double ramps for my liking
karmic crow
@hard horizon your ranking keeps going down because as your gear gets better your parsing with better people.
Like I said though, your opener is wrong, rampage and bloodbath should be a 1:1 ratio.
Fang embellishment on the weapon isn’t great. Allied wrists or another shadow flame patch is better
warm crag
ranking has nothing to do with ilvl unless you look at ilvl parses which is kind of a joke anyways
karmic crow
ranking has nothing to do with ilvl unless you look at ilvl parses which is kind...
That’s what he’s looking at though. As the@log he linked he parsed a 56%
warm crag
don't look at ilvl parses then its not a good indicator
tbf your gear isn't stellar either and you're lacking the orange stick getting truely exceptional parses will be difficult but you should still be able to do better if you fix the opener and make sure you dont waste reckless abandon stacks
hard horizon
When you say double ramp is that what you mean
karmic crow
When you say double ramp is that what you mean
Double ramp is when you don’t use the bloodbath proc
hard horizon
as far as wasting recklass abandon
ahhh
as far as opener goes, just the standard from wowhead?
karmic crow
Reck > charge > Ramp > OF > roar/spear > BB > Rampage > Avatar is the correct opener
burnt stone
You must understand.
The reason why reck is used in the opener is because of RA Talent, you get 50 rage, and the rage generation is doubled due to the reck buff, so when you reck-charge, the rage becomes 90, so you can immediately cast ramp to get the enrage buff.
unreal cape
and without titanic rage you want to be enraged before using OF / Avatar, thats why you rampage before OF on your opener
burnt stone
Also, the reason OF is cast before the avatar is because of the T31 4set effect. OF has a reduced cooldown, so use it as quickly as possible and use the real avatar just before the simple avatar buff you get from OF runs out.
This is the longest uptime for the Dancing Blade buff.
hard horizon
Ahhh hokay that makes sense
as far as stats go, Like im seeing Str>Haste>Mast>Crit>Vers
and Str>Mast>Vers>Haste>Crit
Like I have haste crit belt, haste crit boots
oblique trail
There is no clear hierarchy of stats you want to focus on
hard horizon
er I mean haste mast belt
oblique trail
Sim yourself in top gear on raidbots, you want a spread of all stats, however Mastery is the typical highest priority
hard horizon
ok
burnt stone
Now that you understand the order of the opener, there are a few things you should not forget.
-
Maintain enrage buff whenever possible (if rage is over 80 and there is no enrage buff, cast from ramp)
-
If you have enrage buff, prioritize BB (except when AJ buff expires)
bitter palm
stats dont matter
run top gear with the gear you have
and droptimizer to know what to look for / farm
hard horizon
Im kinda doing like a bloodthirst/rampage back and fourth should I just be hitting rampage to get the buff for enrage
and double hitting bloodthurst
storm rune
Versit 29 Crit 14 Haste 25 Mast 58.5
Seems like some damn good stats
hard horizon
Last time I really fucked around with war was in WoD im a Unh DK main
and that was arms haha
bitter palm
you can ramp -> bb -> slam/ww -> bt if you are struggling with rage
hard horizon
Ah wait Larry said Bloodbath/Rampage is a 1:1 ratio
bitter palm
if you dont have windfury fitting bt is common
storm rune
Yeah BB/ramp 1:1 and BT/BB every second cast is the rotation in a nutshell
bitter palm
fury stats are pretty spread right now
at least for me
im like 4300 in all stats and like 5. something in mastery
its legit mastery > vers=crit=haste
for me
but again
sim yourself
hard horizon
Yeah like my crit is 1140 haste 3455 mast 5739 verse 5354
storm rune
My sims from 450 > 487 have generally said the same, generally it says Chase Mastery/vers, get crit where you can and stop chasing haste at 3500
We always say sim for best stats, but they seem prtty generally similar across characters
bitter palm
im going through some top volc logs and stats are all over the place
bitter palm
its legit mastery > vers=crit=haste
some have like this
storm rune
Oh god yeah, some rando with 5k haste doing ungodly DPS
hard horizon
I think an aug and a leggo would make me feel better
bitter palm
some vers=mastery > crit > haste
wf makes the biggest difference in how the spec feels
no wf fury is so shit
bitter palm
some vers=mastery > crit > haste
cause people have access to different gear
some people have 489 igira ring
some dont
storm rune
I like what that korean dude said earlier "RL wouldn't let me in the WF group so I just went arms" lmao
hard horizon
hahahaa
bitter palm
i would complain hard
im not playing arms
without wf
the only fun part feels shit
(execute phase)
storm rune
I said the same thing, like either I get WF or I'm MT as prot... Which is actually silly cuz prot still wants WF group lol
bitter palm
should I craft a piece
what do you have atm
weapon is a nice craft this late into the patch
if u already have wrists cloak
crafted
bitter palm
does ur weapon have an embellishment
hard horizon
fang
bitter palm
fang is ass
as fury you want
either double shadowflame for max st
or shadowflame + allied for mix
bitter palm
there is some tech with blue silken lining and legs but its just tech
storm rune
I don't trust myself nor my healers enough to fuck with BSL
bitter palm
i would personally craft wrists altho belt wouldnt be bad either
for shadowflame
or wrists for allied
prob allied wrists
hard horizon
ok
hard horizon
Yep
sounds good to me
about to run some quick 18s
with this
is there a ring yall would say i need to get
vs thornwoven
and that crafted i have
storm rune
honestly crafted rings work best 9/10 times
bitter palm
run droptimizer to see potential upgrades
generally speaking
archdruids
is a really good fury ring
from dht
hard horizon
ill run darkshart then
bitter palm
from what i can see on the armory
you need to spam keys for aspects
a lot of pieces arent upgraded
storm rune
low key the movespeed enchant for boots is really nice for fury as well
and usually the vers pants enchant sims slightly better but that's a super minute difference
bitter palm
vers mast food as well
main stat just weak
on warrs
🤷♂️
im like 489.37 as arms rn
storm rune
same with DH this season
storm rune
imagine having augury
hard horizon
really?
bitter palm
im talking arms
bitter palm
arms is brand augury
same with fury
u just need augury at 496
on short fights prob pips augury
storm rune
vers also makes your augury pop off, so stats make or break it
bitter palm
vers also makes your augury pop off, so stats make or break it
luck makes ur augury pop off
hard horizon
I feel like until i get aug I should probably try to get a good might of the ocean
storm rune
might is fantastic for m+ and anything with add/amp phases
runic pine
u just need augury at 496
Ye my best setups rn are brand/pips or might/pips depending on fight length but my augury also is only heroic
storm rune
nah it's pretty ass iirc
storm rune
ST it's like okay but once you get some aoe in there it's toilet tier
hard horizon
Yeah like I have a Branch, a Rezen, Brand, 476 Might of Ocean and a 476 Pipes
pips
others are all 483
sharp wadi
yeah i got a 4.76 pipe as well
small estuary
arms is brand augury
im running Might of the ocean
sorry
as Fury
I need stupid Fyr'Alath to drop
dire vigil
+25 Yazma Spell reflect goes brrrr, I got almost every cast luckily
nocturne dragon
it's brrr but holy sometimes it made me feel mixed, such simple skill can enter top 2/3 if you got targetted a lot.
polar trail
Any tips for melee uptime on Larodar mythic? Comparing myself to top logs I seem to have a lot of downtime. His melee box and the fire all over the place can make it quite hard to hit him.
Also the fire debuff can make it nasty sometimes.
Or any good pov vids with high uptime I can check?
sullen dove
i think the only time youre rly off the boss is when he charges out
melee hitbox being kinda small can happen maybe but if he's in fire for a notably long time might be more of a weird tank shenanigan
idk you just kinda keep on him and try to stand in clear spots if there are any, baiting fire debuffs against old fire
you can also stand in fire a "little" as fury since we're so tanky
like obv shouldnt try to be in there forever but pop spell reflect can take it for a couple seconds
polar trail
Might need more practice. Had some <5% wipes and I’m like bottom dps, usually I’m quite high up
sullen dove
if boss is moved weirdly during your cooldowns or something
oblique trail
If you are bottom dps it's not an uptime issue
sullen dove
oh yea well p2 def a little more interesting in terms of fire, ideally theres a nice big center area cleared but thats a lot of the hose people's jobs
that and making sure baits arent just in the middle of the room or something
polar trail
that and making sure baits arent just in the middle of the room or something
Baits as in the roots?
sullen dove
the debuff that spawns fire under your feet
u wanna be against the edge of the old fire relatively stacked up
kinda stutter stepping to keep it as low as possible
polar trail
Oh yea, that’s going quite decent but we’re pretty melee heavy (like 3 rets, 2 outlaws, 1 dh 1 dk)
eternal sundial
Any tips for melee uptime on Larodar mythic? Comparing myself to top logs I seem...
Human tanks help
Ours have chosen the wildest spots to move to at times
Also if you are deep in farm youll run the charge closer
tardy lark
Also if you are deep in farm youll run the charge closer
then you start splitting alts/mains and you're back to hanging out with your wang out
frozen mirage
How do you guys have so many Rampage casts? What am I doing wrong in my spending..
tardy lark
In what way do you mean?
Rampage shows up several times per cast in warcraft logs cast timeline'
frozen mirage
Nah, just mad at my first mythic Smolderon kill. Compared to the 260k dps+ Fury Warriors they all have in common a lot more Rampage casts. I find myself sometimes having not enough rage
tardy lark
one thing to help with that is to keep building instead of spending as long as you are enraged and not rage capped
enrage is the most important thing
frozen mirage
Yeah, and that's also what I'm trying, to have that little 3s Enrage up 100% of the time.
Does it say Enrage up time somewhere after a fight?
unreal onyx
Buffs I think
On my one and only myth smolderon kill im at 95.4% enrage at a killtime of 6:44
(21st dec)
frozen mirage
On my one and only myth smolderon kill im at 95.4% enrage at a killtime of 6:44
Do you have a link? I also only have one obviously after yesterday. Would be fun to compare
I think we were close to the same killtime at around 6:30
unreal onyx
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bNq1Yt23vjQyfpZF#fight=8&type=auras&source=25 I was very mid, but kill is kill
Parsing is for rekills, not prog 
frozen mirage
I can see the same pattern. I mus thave had passive times due to prog run and some panicking here and there because your log has so many more Bloodbath and Rampage casts as well
Here is mine which was shit: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZmVgGDn67qj3yJpd#fight=14&type=damage-done&source=17 (but at least finally a Smolderon kill)
lost saffron
I can see the same pattern. I mus thave had passive times due to prog run and so...
You play your opener wrong
molten wing
this is more likely the opener you would do i think
lost saffron
Yes
clever belfry
You should delay that avatar nearly 2 globals
tardy lark
Smoldy is cringe scuffy timer boss 
wild mural
^
frozen mirage
On purpose because of a video from Critcake explaining he did that to be able to have his best globals back in first intermission dmg phase
clever belfry
or well, not on smolder
wild mural
Only on Smoldy, all other bosses (except maybe Tindral) you’re basically waiting for Avatar buff from OF to drop before pressing Avatar (or just about to drop)
clever belfry
Pressing it in the last 1.3s is fine
wild mural
Depends how you play roots on Tindral, atleast for me I save for 2nd roots
clever belfry
You only lose a bit more dancing blades then
wild mural
^
lost saffron
Nah you have of ready anyways
clever belfry
quite sure u can just live a beam while rooted as warr
Now u dont have cds on shield
king
lost saffron
Maybe with def stance and cds
lost saffron
BT in between ticks
clever belfry
health pot one tick, IV the next and if there's a 3rd u stone
lost saffron
To not die
clever belfry
2ez honestly
wild mural
I’m trialling with a new guild tomorrow night, I expect I’m gonna be sent up
lost saffron
Time to miss orbs 5 times
clever belfry
Based
wild mural
I think I’ve done like 250 wipes on tindral and nearly got p2 down, and the guild I’m trialling with are P1 proggers I believe
wild mural
We saw P3 sometimes
Like 20 times or so
But my guild struggled with all the mechanics overlapping lol
clever belfry
how tf is it not dead then
lilac crypt
At least your GM didn't disband your guild overnight without any notice D:
clever belfry
???
wild mural
Real
covert blaze
We got roster bossed for 2 weeks then they just gave up
tardy lark
Yeah they havent been fast enough on the nerfs
but i'd also be annoyed being at sub 10% boss hp and showing up for nerfed version on reset
clever belfry
Tindral was lobotomized a long time ago
and fyrakk big nerf was when
3 weeks ago or 2 at this point
even smolder killcount is low i think?
and that boss is piss now
tardy lark
we had rwf tindral at 6% before he got nerfed. Killed him in like 4 pulls the day later.
dont want others to have that feeling
clever belfry
that was the 6 feather and dmg nerf ye?
No seeds removed yet
fyrakk intermission being by far hardest phase now is so silly to me aswell
tardy lark
i dont even remember, i just remember it getting nerfed and i was fuming when we killed it that fast afterwards
clever belfry
shoulda killed it before m8
tardy lark
Imagine not just wiping in p1 or people fucking up breaks in p2
GM said we were the most consistent p3 guild
P3 just doesnt mean dead xd
clever belfry
it now does kinda
tardy lark
we'd wipe to the triple roots into flying with lasers again and again
lost saffron
I think the title to most consistent p3 guild goes to my guild
Sadly we didn't kill
clever belfry
Toph u killed with 3s p2 seed right
lost saffron
Uh I think so yes
At least progressed most of progress with it
Idk when the nerf came
tardy lark
lost saffron
Xddd
clever belfry
cant wait to "reprog" (~5 people in my guild have yet to pull either of last) them
unreal onyx
We got roster bossed for 2 weeks then they just gave up
Bruh
clever belfry
shouldn't be too hard tho, rest has killed them and theyre piss nerfed
tardy lark
We're somehow giga inting both tindral and fyrakk on both splits these last 2 weeks
so we started the "never raid sundays" religion
tardy lark
ye
clever belfry
faie
lost saffron
clever belfry
cause split alts for fated can fuck off
lost saffron
we were also very consistent when we got to p3
clever belfry
p2 💀
molten wing
i just found time to actually play the game after like an year and i'm instra thrown into Smolderon mythic
tardy lark
thank god one of the guys need a lot of gear from 8/9
clever belfry
i just found time to actually play the game after like an year and i'm instra th...
easy boss now
just play roar if u cba spear on that fight
wild mural
I don’t wanna get screwed like S1
clever belfry
🙂
unreal onyx
200k gold for fyrakk myth, fair?
lost saffron
Dont think I can sell that to my guild
tardy lark
We sold 8/9 for 17mil i think
clever belfry
toph i get 5% commission oki
lost saffron
we just sold a full run for 30M yesterday
tardy lark
no clue how Spaz pulled that off
tardy lark
lost saffron
The guy was very innocent as well
clever belfry
lost saffron
was a dh...when we killed council and no thorncaller
he asked if we can kill council again
for another chance
clever belfry
barren dagger
Just reset him
clever belfry
toph just funnel obc boosts to ur guild or
clever belfry
clever belfry
idk with what guilds they're affiliated with rn
clever belfry
yee they can just pull in buyers anyway
lost saffron
Yeh
clever belfry
a social in my old guild bought 8/9 when we didnt have CE yet lol
wild mural
I’m not swiping
clever belfry
from echo that is
lost saffron
Ah ok
covert blaze
can't track raid nerfs anymore gg
real
smoky prawn
real
fleet sorrel
eternal sundial
I think I’ve done like 250 wipes on tindral and nearly got p2 down, and the guil...
P2 technically if they get their shit together (@ that one healer)
wild mural
Then P1
eternal sundial
covert blaze
clever path
Explain to me why most fury warriors pop frenzy regen after 1st intermission on Smolderon?
Like whats this about
willow cradle
Soaking the damage to get a full burst in
slim pollen
CDs come back at the end of transition, to get them in the +damage window, you take a ring to the face and CD your way through it
clever belfry
Last set or rings are the 2 melee ones so your choice is taking D or losing uptime
And since boss has no stacks early its very survivable
sudden tusk
Explain to me why most fury warriors pop frenzy regen after 1st intermission on ...
based on the circle pattern and when your CDs line up you pop ER to stand in the world in flames to not miss a BB cast in spear
you can do this with the first one
clever path
yeah makes sense
sudden tusk
but you will probably die if you do it on the third
clever belfry
if u get symbol of hope between first and second its also nice on 2nd
sudden tusk
based on orbs + bonus dam from boss
clever belfry
cause on 2nd u wanna pop just as u gate out
sudden tusk
you could get hard baby sat by like MW monk bubble
clever path
Do you also long the orbs off? Meaning stagger then during intermission like on 2nd for cds or whatever?
sudden tusk
maybe but idk
clever belfry
Do you also long the orbs off? Meaning stagger then during intermission like on ...
u wanna delay 2nd a bit
clever path
Like be far from boss get knocked charge? Cause i've been standing under boss on all 3 intermissions, Not seen 4th yet
clever belfry
not as much out as first
clever path
Ah fair enough
clever belfry
(this is just my take on playing the boss for 8 pulls on warr) (i did only get a 93 so im noober)
polar trail
Does anyone here use cast sequence macro’s?
Wonder if I can macro a cast sequence where click 1 is victory rush, click 2 healthstone and click 3 health pot. So I can spam it if I need a quick burst of healing.
clever belfry
don't think cast sequence works with off global stuff?
clever path
30% best so far for us
sudden tusk
also who knows if fucking ebon might isnt calculated right and giving you additional DPS
clever path
I leap out gate back in
clever belfry
but u gotta send there or ure late in 3
sudden tusk
so fuck logs
clever belfry
also who knows if fucking ebon might isnt calculated right and giving you additi...
EM works correctly on us on smolder
clever path
I dont even care about logging mythic aslong as boss dies
clever belfry
if u got shifting sands during intermission buff u gained dmg for free
sudden tusk
if i play smold correctly i think i get 2/3 of the spear BBs in before i have to gate out
on the second interm
you need 1.5 seconds for the full gate to not get hit by the world in flames
sudden tusk
too much stacking damage amps to not on smoldy
sudden tusk
im debating weather or not i care about parsing tendril tho
clever belfry
we had a setup with me not flying up
I told them im flying
One week i will stay on ground and get aug buff on shield
sudden tusk
i think this reset im gonna get a parse run in
clever belfry
free parse
sudden tusk
although idk
with ANOTHER 10% health nerf
that boss is just g onna fall the fuck over
clever path
i hate spear
sudden tusk
maybe we just skip a seed set then
idk %based phasing fucking sucks
its like kyrakk health nerfs just mean you have to hard push or afk more
its omega lame
tardy lark
boosting was perfect pacing last night
sudden tusk
with sales yeah
tardy lark
didnt stop dps at all
sudden tusk
we probably would have sold this next week
but be didnt get our third rekill in becuase we have been trying to get bench players their kill
smoky prawn
also who knows if fucking ebon might isnt calculated right and giving you additi...
afaik aug logs are still giga broken
sudden tusk
aug has been such a net negative on the game as a whole
i cant imagine how much better the expansion would have been without them
i admit some of the optimization you can do on that spec is very cool, but i really wish it would have been canned
smoky prawn
i mean i like that theyre trying to mix things up, but not like this
i feel like to shake the dps tank heal comp up, you need more than just 1 spec that does things differently
sudden tusk
when are they going to add a second physical ranged dps
every single ranged dps is a fuckin caster
but hunter
make a rogue spec that throws cards or darts or some shit idk
sudden tusk
if the ywanted a buff spec
the should have unabashidly just STOLEN dancer from ffxiv
smoky prawn
no clue about ff
smoky prawn
a ranged that plays like melee
*that isnt hunter
ive only been playing melees, and since melees are kinda ass in m+ ive been trying to get into mage but casting feels so giga off to me
sudden tusk
rogue is disgusting in M+
gearing my outlaw rn and its very fun and very strong
if you want a melee to dig into
its very zoomer with alot of conditionals but weak auras can help a lot with it
covert blaze
i fucking hate spear
real
sudden tusk
but geting 4-5 ace procs back to back is like nothing ive ever felt as a melee
true magical shit
covert blaze
but geting 4-5 ace procs back to back is like nothing ive ever felt as a melee
then I press BTE with 0.3 seconds left on subterfuge and my ping casts it after stealth is over
smoky prawn
smoky prawn
i guess i could out rogue a try
but it looks giga complicated for my pea brain
i s2g
stoic tiger
Hey, all I'm looking for a macro that uses Might of the Ocean, Elemental Potion of Ultimate Power and Recklessness
sudden tusk
just put /use in front of the first 2 and /cast in front of reck in seperate lines
smoky prawn
why pot tho
clever path
outlaw is fury's cousin
sudden tusk
outlaw has easily double the buttons
clever path
Outlaw is am fury
sudden tusk
Fwar is WW/BT/Ramp/Slam
sudden tusk
Outlaw is : Ghostly, Echoing Reprimand, Sinister strike, dispatch, between the eyes, Vanish, Shadow dance, Roll the bones, Pistol shot, Blade flurry
stoic tiger
why pot tho
Why not
smoky prawn
because it doesnt aling with 1.5m cd
smoky prawn
you don't want to always pot on cd
and that
stoic tiger
you don't want to always pot on cd
But don't you always want to burst when u use pot?
covert blaze
But don't you always want to burst when u use pot?
there are situations where you will want to use your cds but save pot for the next set for example
so just use pot on a different keybind
smoky prawn
and maybe you need to invis skip
and again, 1.5mins of cd dont align with 5min pot cd anyway
stoic tiger
there are situations where you will want to use your cds but save pot for the ne...
Any examples? Where I wouldn't burst right after I use potion?
covert blaze
Any examples? Where I wouldn't burst right after I use potion?
add spawns or damage amps
or lust
btw you burst and not use potion, not the other way around
stoic tiger
btw you burst and not use potion, not the other way around
Ahh, okay
sharp tartan
I know our own cooldowns dont buff the on use damage of the legendary but do the raids damage amps like smolderon orbs or tinderals shield buff it?
outer ocean
dmg amps in m+ do so i would assume so
sharp tartan
Cool, thanks
deft thicket
guys restored dreamleaf has time cap or i use it and it stays on my char while im at fyralath quest?
smoky prawn
it stays on
deft thicket
so i use it once and it stays! ok got it and i can complete it on my char once i guess
deep niche
you use it on party member
then after he completes q
he uses item on you
and then you will get buff
deft thicket
i used it on my self and did it and i got the restored dreamleaf! so the other way to get more is to use it o party memeber and they do it for me? i had another leaf that gives u quest but it disappapeared as soon as i got restored..
unreal onyx
guys restored dreamleaf has time cap or i use it and it stays on my char while i...
It stays on permanent
I still have the buff after getting leggo 2 months ago
deft thicket
oh i see i hope i will find another guy to give me the buff again if it is possible.. im 51/200 rn..
paper ivy
I still have the buff after getting leggo 2 months ago
Mein is buffed. 2 friends of mine did the quest, used the item on me and it did nothing. I already had done the quest myself once, so i had 50% buff. Their items didnt increase the buff further more and they are sure they targeted me
Is that a bug or sth?
sudden thicket
I think it only stacks to 2 (100% bonus). Don't know why neither worked though. Are you the same faction? If not won't work in open world (but item gets consumed).
rigid sorrel
Mein is buffed. 2 friends of mine did the quest, used the item on me and it did ...
Doesn't work cross-faction
rigid sorrel
I think it only stacks to 2 (100% bonus). Don't know why neither worked though. ...
It stacks further than 100%. Did mine with 150% Buff and saw even more in Superbloom Groups
paper ivy
Doesn't work cross-faction
We were all horde
sudden thicket
Have you actually checked if you're getting more or not
The buff stack icon is fucky. It disappeared entirely for me
rigid sorrel
We were all horde
That's strange, this bug normally only occurs on cross faction (Horde friend used on me, Ally, Item disappeared but no Buff was given)
Afaik though
paper ivy
Have you actually checked if you're getting more or not
The buff stack icon is f...
I was getting 6-7 per pouch
paper ivy
That's strange, this bug normally only occurs on cross faction (Horde friend use...
Im sure they are horde. Both blood elf
mortal rock
do i want to use t30 or t31 talent with 2 pieces t31 for both raid and m+ ?
rigid sorrel
do i want to use t30 or t31 talent with 2 pieces t31 for both raid and m+ ?
Just get 2 pieces from current season into Catalyst to get 4pcs - you get a new charge every Week so no need to safe them
mortal rock
Just get 2 pieces from current season into Catalyst to get 4pcs - you get a new ...
i dont have 2 last pieces to turn into tier
i only need better legs
rigid sorrel
Then just play whatever you want until you get those 2 Items to convert
slim pollen
Have you actually checked if you're getting more or not
The buff stack icon is f...
Had 6 of them used on me, but 2 of them from same person (different chars) didn't increase the buff stacks visually.
At the end i was getting like 25 from 1 green bag, 16 from a blue bag and 39 from the end boss. (Altho numbers seem very random)
rigid elbow
at what percents do secondary stats start to fall off and i should start investing elsewhere?
warm crag
shouldnt worry about that, just sim top gear
strong swan
Had 6 of them used on me, but 2 of them from same person (different chars) didn'...
Thats sick. I was getting 9 from green bag, 5,6 from blue and 3 from purple, at 100% buff
sterile remnant
at what percents do secondary stats start to fall off and i should start investi...
5400 but as fury you would still go for more mastery. What you should have depends on the trinkets you have
Saying you have augury and brand you would lean towards a bit more crit than usual
light stump
With might of the ocean trinket - if I have OF, Reckless, Avatar, Roar up - I’m assuming I want to pop it with Reckless right before OF, right?
sterile remnant
Yea you can even macro it with reckless
subtle rock
Is there a way to sim for specific bosses or can I ask what trinks seem to be best for Tindral (mythic) without someone saying JuSt SiM iT. I have hero track Signet/Might of the ocean/Augery as options
sullen dove
might prolly highest overall in terms of deleting roots and “padding” and if you’re just learning trying to kill roots it’s fine/even recommended to use probably but signet’ll obviously be more boss damage and I just opted to be using signet after a while once we got comfortable with root damage and were more trying to kill the boss
But really with next weeks nerf both boss dmg and root dmg not gonna be anywhere near as tight so rly up to you moto will def be higher overall stronger root pad while signet is more “ethical” boss damage but ppl pretty interchangeably use one or the other with augury
subtle rock
Kk, thank you!
bitter palm
im playing moto and signet personally
augury just unreliable as fuck
one pull does damage
next pull nothing
cba
deft thicket
also does anyone know what is this ?
sullen dove
For the quest you got by eating the tattered dreamleaf
20% of the progress towards it
deft thicket
and do i turn it somewhere? i completed it the tattered leaf quest
sullen dove
should show the guy in ohnahran plains you got one part of the quest from
turn it in to use the 50% dreamleaf buff on yourself
deft thicket
i did it and i already have the buff on me 50% and a guy completed the quest again for me and he cast the spell on me but the buff remained the same 50% didnt stack..
sullen dove
sometimes the stacks bug out but it’s also possible you didn’t hit yourself with it? Think you have to target yourself
and are you sure he cast the 50% buff or he tried to cast another tattered dreamleaf which would do nothing
deft thicket
he told me he cast on me and i saw the animation too
he was hunter
no way he got a tattered leaf
sullen dove
Yea idk how it actually drops maybe you can’t get one if you’re not a leggo holder
deft thicket
anyway.. at least i have one buff on me
sullen dove
I’ve heard if a group member is giving you buffs you shouldn’t be in a raid and sometimes it gets buggy when they leave party or log off
but I’ve “lost” one buff and had 3 others on me and those people all logged off
so idk
sullen dove
Yea idk if that was it or whatever
idk why it wouldn’t work in a raid anyway just what I’ve heard
slim pollen
Don't think it matters, i believe you still have the buff (correct stacks) but the buff visual is just buggy
whole apex
debating race changing from orc, but i know the best option for m+ is ne and dwarf...cant go ally on this toon. seems like BE is useless almost, but i enjoy their look lol
deft thicket
Don't think it matters, i believe you still have the buff (correct stacks) but t...
maybe it is just visual bug..
clever belfry
but I’ve “lost” one buff and had 3 others on me and those people all logged off
if disappearing means gone from buff bar
that's just visual
sullen dove
Yea I mean it being invisible is also a possibility cause while I had 3 official buffs visible I’ve gotten 80 leaves and 90 leaves from two separate super blooms
Maybe I highrolled both but prolly had more than 150% for that to be possible
clever belfry
I lost both of my buffs before I did any super
i got the extra value anyway
unpolished dogshit quest
mossy fox
i think i ended up getting 7 buffs (only 5 of them worked obv)
but yeah my stacks also reset at some point, i just asked laren and verrug to also do it in case i actually had lost them
clever belfry
I had to do 2 superblooms to even get my first leaf
deft thicket
so i guess it doesnt matter if u are on raid or not.. it is just visual bug i guess
clever belfry
then i finished 2 leaves on 3rd
finished quest on 5th or 6th superbloom
clever belfry
so i guess it doesnt matter if u are on raid or not.. it is just visual bug i gu...
All information i possess points to it, but i can not verify it conclusively
warm crag
I had to do 2 superblooms to even get my first leaf
lmao noob
mossy fox
i did mine on 3rd (only needed 1st green bag on 3rd)
mossy fox
could have done it in 2 if i minmaxed a bit better
mossy fox
the weekly super ye
mossy fox
ye i kinda hoped the buff would work retroactively
deft thicket
may i ask if someone is free with an alt or somthing to give him the tattered dreamleaf to help me get another buff? if u want ofc
sinful spoke
shit Q
I finished mine in 3 hrs lol wdym
The evoker leggo was worse u just farmed the fucking forgemaster in the fyrakk event
clever belfry
The evoker leggo was worse u just farmed the fucking forgemaster in the fyrakk e...
that shit took 50min with a good shard
clever belfry
the issues with this quest are compounded by the amount of missing polish (buffs disappearing, wrong targeting causing u to lose progress)
the excessive cooldowns on some stuff if you dont use proving grounds
it feels like a guy at blizz did like 10 of any given currency and just x20'd the number
slim coral
i handed in the big quest early before i got the buffs
How do you get the buffs? I wanna know for when I do it
oblique trail
I personally had to finish the first Supabloom to get any dreamleafs to share, but you get those from the bags you loot during a bloom
oblique trail
You just use them on a person that hasn't already done the quest, they do the bloom with you, go hand it in and use it on you then boom
I do assume the buff still works even if it doesn't track it, since with getting 5 buffs over the day, I "only" had to do 7 blooms
But it's very jank
mossy fox
i went in pretty much with 0 info and had twitch chat helping and backseating
Vil gave lots of info too
bitter palm
streamer privilege
mossy fox
oblique trail
As you do with any content
let chat play the game for you
You are simply the medium they play the game through
bitter palm
true
mossy fox
perhaps today would be a good day for 5 warrior key
not too sure how the pwar will survive zug zug bolstering but it'll be fine
@empty thorn help
oblique trail
just shield block/spell block
acoustic furnace
after three weeks of not playing I opened some vaults I had laying around and got a myth might of the ocean and got gholak for my off spec
life is good
oblique trail
Imagine getting great m+ trinkets from vault
Have only gotten hourglass which I don't even use
stuck bison
mossy fox
would love a 489 ember yep
mossy fox
not sure how it compares to pip actually
i have a pip 489 already
maybe use both sometimes
acoustic furnace
I just want a rageheart it can be 476 for all I care. I have collected every other trinket from this season and that would complete the collection.
eternal sundial
I dont have any m+ trinket at 489 bar rezan Sadge
eternal sundial
496 soon
clever path
is augury trinket based off of vers %?
oblique trail
No Augury is just straight up very good
clever path
i know that, but is augury increased by vers?
bitter palm
yes
oblique trail
All trinkets are
It might not say in the tooltip on wowhead (look at Rezan's eye), but it still is
clever path
i feel like wowhead is trolling when it says augury has a 20% drop rate
oblique trail
I would not bother looking at drop rates
clever belfry
No Augury is just straight up very good
it does blast more burst
oblique trail
My P1 Fyrakkus damage went up by a small (very noticeable) margin the moment I put on the Augury