fury

[young swan]

mythic or heroic

[heavy folio]

m

[oblique trail]

Or alternatively check Lorrgs

[young swan]

1st set of roots

[heavy folio]

i hold cds for 2nd set of roots

[south kayak]

Do you want to only use it in the boss

[eternal sundial]

hate pugs

[humble plover]

Since the leggo is hasted now I like to use it after my 1st CD set while enraged and frenzy is up

[south kayak]

[summer quail]

just odyns fury and leggo on first set of roots

hold other cds for 2nd set

[young swan]

you just OF, ramp and then axe

and pray that ur riders arent slow

so u get big 1.5m crit on boss

[humble plover]

Stonks

[summer quail]

i wait a little bit since the riders are slow, you'll get used to the timings of your guild tho

[south kayak]

What do you mean

Do you don’t touch roots?

[young swan]

that is not what i said

[humble plover]

You get the buff from all the roots but if they die the damage isn't split anymore

[young swan]

^

[summer quail]

the riders will destroy the first root set, you just use the roots for funnel

[humble plover]

Meaning big boss bonk

[summer quail]

big leggo funnel

[south kayak]

Ok so it still buffs you even tho they’re dead?

[summer quail]

yes, as long as you pressed before they die

[south kayak]

I see

[young swan]

it consumes the active stacks to buff the on use

[summer quail]

so you time it to where the active only hits boss for big crits

[brittle crow]

how do i use this in aoe

[dawn pivot]

idk I dont have it yet

[brittle crow]

how many stacks do i wanna build

is there a cd on stack application

[young swan]

unless if its a pull with a bunch of smallies that die insta u just use it

if there is a pull with a bunch of smallies u want to use it right before they die for funnel

[south kayak]

Water elementals in throne lmao

[brittle crow]

thats opposing statements

[young swan]

there isnt any "building stacks" any hit from out kit applies the dot to nearby creatures

[brittle crow]

oh they don't stack

[south kayak]

Does the dot do decent damage

[young swan]

meh

[humble plover]

It used to lol

[oblique trail]

Does like 6k ticks

Or so

[young swan]

it did before it got nerfed by 20%

[brittle crow]

this is opposing statements

[humble plover]

It's free damage so it's good

[young swan]

how

[oblique trail]

It snapshots

[young swan]

if its a regular pack u just send it

doesnt matter

[brittle crow]

ur saying if it's smallies use it but if it's smallies wait

u can't do both

[young swan]

that isnt what i said

i said unless if it is a pull

with a bunch of smallies

u just send it whenever

key word unless

[south kayak]

You guys think they’re buff the axe now that it’s dropping like candy

[brittle crow]

o

[humble plover]

No

[gilded pawn]

axe gets nerfed

because everyone has it

[south kayak]

[brittle crow]

axe is now worse than fyrakk 1hander

gg

[south kayak]

Sheesh

Imagine if damage wasn’t split

[young swan]

you would have to give the on use like a 5 min cd

that would be ridiculous

maybe more

[gilded pawn]

once a fight

[wanton mirage]

It should be like this

For a leggo

[oblique trail]

Yeah imagine giving a weapon a 5 min cd

They'd never do that

[gilded pawn]

honestly at that point theyll probably put main stat instead

hi vil

[south kayak]

Imagine giving a weapon a 4 min cd

[gilded pawn]

hi vil

[fleet sorrel]

Xan still saying lego is bad

[gilded pawn]

hi vil

[south kayak]

Oh wait

[fleet sorrel]

Crazy

[south kayak]

Chill

[mossy fox]

um

[young swan]

[oblique trail]

holy moly

[uneven path]

finally

[wanton mirage]

Holy crit

[south kayak]

Big boy

[oblique trail]

crit is saved?

[cursive quiver]

Paincake is now happycake

[scenic mortar]

[uneven path]

Gz @mossy fox ... superbloomz inc

[heavy folio]

alt?

[south kayak]

We got it the same day. It means something

[young swan]

@mossy fox leave raid its rare grinding time

[mossy fox]

true

[gilded pawn]

holy moly

[humble plover]

Heyyy grats crit

[south kayak]

First comment on crit video with axe

[humble plover]

Welcome to the big boys club

[warm crag]

this is correct in m+ or

[south kayak]

I assume that’s raid

I dunno

Because otherwise they don’t play that

Anyway, bed time

Gonna have to farm super blooms tomorrow

[warm crag]

L

[fallen ginkgo]

next week

[uncut rampart]

Gratz crit !

[clever path]

Yeah yeah

[sullen cloak]

Does Igira do any debuff or anything similar on his 1st intermission phase ?

Odd question I know but my rotation falls to pieces immediately when he enters it...

Hardly any rampage procs and very noticeable compared to any other encounter?

[dawn pivot]

when to use legendary on tindral?

[oblique trail]

There is no such thing that does this on Igira

[fleet cargo]

ohhhh

gz on that one .. welcome to the gangg !!!

[hard relic]

okay cringe question does anyone have some tindral technology for warrior? I need to play the fight without breaking roots with avatar

do I just untalent titan's torment? do I just not send at roots at all

its hurting just to think about it

[dawn pivot]

unbreak with titan always

[oblique trail]

wat

[hard relic]

yeah I mean obviously but people are peepeeing poopooing cooming farding their jorts

and spawning a bazillion trents

and its up to me

the warrior with 1 intact synapse in my fuckign brain

to not spawn one

I dont know dude

I want to fuckign die

[oblique trail]

Idk your raid leader is cooked for putting it on the warrior

[hard relic]

is this how jesus felt on the cross I wonder?

yes

[oblique trail]

At that point you honestly might as well bench the warrior xd

Because you lose a ton of root damage and otherwise are just useless on the fight

[hard relic]

I asked to be benched

no go apaprently

[oblique trail]

🤷‍♂️

[jovial coral]

You're cooked man

[oblique trail]

All you can do then is just use CDs on CD in that case if your RL for some reason wont allow you to freedom yourself

Even though one treant from you wont make a difference compared to the root damage you'll do

[young swan]

tell ur RL to shove it and send cds where they should be sent

if he doesnt accept that, find a new guild

too late in the tier to be dealing with that shit

[cerulean spire]

Is there a string for simming stuff you dont have?

[oblique trail]

At the top of top gear, yes

[cerulean spire]

I wanna check lariat for example

[oblique trail]

You can just directly add gear there now

[cerulean spire]

Holy shit, and I felt I was writing code

[hard relic]

lets see if I can try to reason with them

thanks fellas

[fading sky]

SONTEK

happens first night

for every1

then rl wakes up

and its a non issue

u want to break em at correct times, and until RL accepts that u can in theory just press avatar PRE roots if u like

[young swan]

nah u just break the roots

[sullen dove]

tell your healers to just heal more

[ornate gust]

Just free yourself. Screw your RL. He must accept it

[tidal kindle]

Just break the roots fuck your RL

Why is your raid spaawning so many treeants that its an issue

Does everyone in your raid have a freedom or smth?

[sullen dove]

lmao

[dawn pivot]

when to cast legendary on tindral M?

[young swan]

i thought u didnt have it

[sullen dove]

i find it best to do first root set of every phase

[ornate gust]

I used it as a filler

[sullen dove]

assuming youre not flying first roots ofc..

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

yeah just listen to swordish he has 600 pulls on the boss

[sullen dove]

yep

[young swan]

knows what hes talking about

[sullen dove]

well practiced

[fleet sorrel]

:/

[sullen dove]

bet i could do this shit with my eyes closed tbh..

[sullen dove]

[dawn pivot]

so never? cuz I gotta cast my stuff to get odyns back

in time for roots

[young swan]

listen to swordish

600 pulls

[sullen dove]

yes

[dawn pivot]

only 600?

[ornate gust]

We didn’t do 600 pulls. Just go with Swordish 😑

[sullen dove]

but tbh aside from a few odyns timings that are a little tight dont think its ever like hard to miss roots youre supposed to odyns with odyns

like first roots odyns > rampage > leggo on boss and roots should get killed by dragons in last couple ticks of the cast

[dawn pivot]

I do every root

with odyn

[sullen dove]

unless your dragons are slow

[young swan]

first roots p1 u just OF -> ramp -> axe

[sullen dove]

i mean you odyns first root avatar second root

odyns isnt up for 2nd roots exactly just on the trail end if they live too long and some of the treants, but thats mostly boss damage of anyway

[young swan]

pretty sure i do weird stuff in p2 so im not gonna comment

[sullen dove]

yea idk i just follow critcake guide religiously and been working ok

odyns/roar first shield, odyns when it comes up for boss dam

avatar/reck first roots, leggo in that window too

so like ava/reck/ramp/bb/leggo or something prolly fine

[dawn pivot]

it is if you do pump BT all time

[sullen dove]

then odyns/roar second roots

[tidal kindle]

Nah you can get unlucky

[sullen dove]

yea i mean... it can be but thats not that reliable

and even still not that necessary

compared to rolling the dice on a fat 1.5mil leggo crit on the boss

[young swan]

roots never live long enough for 2 full OF dots except in p3 anyways

and even in p3 its like

one set

that lives that long

[dawn pivot]

so what to do on 1st root

[young swan]

#fury message

read

[sullen dove]

odyns > ramp > leggo

or if your dragons are slow you can bb after the ramp

and before leggo

but you wanna start casting like just as theyre about to land basically

and try to aim so you'll only hit boss

sometimes you get griefed by some trees but what can ya do

[young swan]

i usually send axe after i see first dragon appear on my screen

[dawn pivot]

why

[sullen dove]

so you funnel all the stacks from the roots into the boss

and do 1.5million damage to the boss

if you crit

honestly first set p3 i think its pretty impossible to funnel boss fully

dragons always slow as shit on that set for some reason

and if i hold off on using leggo any later im just eating a firebeam spawn

but w/e maybe its worth holding if you can guarantee a good boss dam funnel leggo, cuz most groups boss doesnt live long enough to cast leggo a 2nd time in p3

mine sure will tho

[fleet sorrel]

Legendary bad btw

Xan btw

[sullen dove]

[ornate gust]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2068711364

You can watch our kill. You may benefit from my pov.

[dawn pivot]

could you write down the timings you use cds on tindral?

wdym by funnel stacks

[clever path]

Go to lorrgs.io

And get the timings there

[sullen dove]

you know the thing where leggo will consume marks of fyralath to buff the on use

so you mark all of the roots with the dot

then use on use it eats all of that and makes on use do like 3-4x more damage

[dawn pivot]

which marks

[sullen dove]

but this when i use them that sorta lines up with some people on lorrgs

the dot you put on everything is called the mark of fyralath

the one in p3 not exactly happy with yet, couldve done better on the p2 one in this pull

but the idea is, you put the dot on all the roots with either odyns/ww/roar literally anything that aoes

and then when the roots are about to die, i.e. dragons coming down cuz they almost guarantee will kill them, start the channel so it consumes all the dots on every root, and makes the cast that much stronger to hit the boss with

the one in p1 is about as free as it gets nothing dangerous going on there, so u can practice the motion of it kinda

in p2 its not that bad either but you have to jump out for a seed pmuch as soon as the cast finishes

and p3 youre finishing the cast literally in a fire beam as it spawns

hence why i say i cant always funnel the boss correctly cuz those roots live a long time and dragons are slow

[dawn pivot]

thats a great site

[sullen dove]

so just buttons written down to loosely follow
1st set p1 ~30seconds: odyns when they spawn > rampage > leggo on boss; if dragons slow can fit another global before leggo like bb
1st set p2 ~2:40 : reck/avatar roots when they spawn > ramp > leggo; same thing >get ready for seeds after
1st set p3 ~4:50: odyns/ramp/leggo; get ready to run out of fire beam

[dawn pivot]

so I have to hit the boss only with the leggy

[sullen dove]

that is the best practice for the bestboss damage yeah

[dawn pivot]

but start casting it when roots are up

[sullen dove]

yeah while they're up, when they're about to die

which can happen quite fast when dragons are about to land

so id say even when theyre at half hp its ok to cast

but yknow just kinda have a feel for when dragons land and when they kill them all

if highest overall damage was your goal you could of course just send it facing all of the roots as soon as they spawn, would def be bigger number but thats all pad

something my raid struggles to find the balance between

[silver dawn]

I thought you couldn’t cast the leggo while rooted. At least I can’t seem to

[sullen dove]

odyns un roots you

well avatar specifically breaks your root

but odyns also causes that

but yes its rly something only fury can do super effectively

i was surprised my boss dam using leggo was literally better than 3 other leggo wielders combined

[silver dawn]

Immediately followed by “where the fuck did this extra treant come from” -raid lead

[sullen dove]

whether or not they're not trying as hard or they're just stuck rooted while im not, 2 ret pallies and 1 bdk

i mean there will always be a treant every set with a war

to play fury and to not spawn a treant every set of roots youre not flying is pretty much wrong

especially platform 1 they are beyond inconsequential

p2 and 3 they're def a bit scarier for sure

[silver dawn]

I’ll have to tell my raid lead. I’m on DK so I can’t do it but we do have a fury war with leggo

[sullen dove]

but dragons blow them up fast too

[dawn pivot]

but actually when I press it, its already doing the damage isnt it?

press the legendary

[sullen dove]

yes but thats unavoidable

its the last big hit you rly want on the boss

explosive rage

[dawn pivot]

I see

[sullen dove]

which as i linked earlier

can crit for 1.5million

on the boss

if you do it right and get lucky

so when you start cast, roots still alive some of the cast might hit roots whatever, but ideally they are dead before your cast ends

and you finish it only hitting the boss

it might hit some trees

if they gripped in weird

but w/e

[slim coral]

15 kills for it to be guaranteed sheesh

[sullen dove]

apparently thats a god given grace

if wowhead article isnt wrong evoker leggo STILL isnt guaranteed???

if youve killed heroic sark every week since blp introduced??

like that cant be real right

[rare cradle]

As an LFR hero who did LFR before the hotfix this week (11th kill this week, 10 embers and 0.8% chance, lawl), I don't see any chance from my first normal or first heroic kill, 0%. I have to start eating normal and heroic embers just to have a shot.

[slim coral]

Yeah it wasn’t

[sullen dove]

yep

[olive wraith]

Clear fill heroic

[slim coral]

And tbh it should only be guaranteed on mythic

[olive wraith]

For lessers chance

You’ll still probably get it before me

[rare cradle]

0.6% extra chance per lesser, better than a stick in the eye. Does that boost the odds for just heroic and mythic or all difficulties?

[sullen dove]

would assume all

[rare cradle]

Could be all, could be they count where they drop, a case for either!

[edgy widget]

its very likely all, a blanket adjustment

[sullen dove]

i mean it should be all towards the same end goal of accumulating a buff to the same droprate

like people that get mythic embers

[edgy widget]

since there does not appear to be any discernable difference between Heroic or Mythic Lesser Embers

[sullen dove]

no way youre expected to be killing myth fyrakk regularly

[edgy widget]

the believed way it works is that you kill the boss, and it calculates the drop rate based on that difficulty + lower difficulties + lesser embers

so, using this table as an example and assuming you didn't miss any weeks (we're on week 12 atm)

We don't know if the numbers are strictly additive or how they work exactly, but for the sake of simplicity, killing Fyrakk on heroic should give you something like a 27% chance (heroic) + 5.5% chance (normal) + 2.75% chance (LFR) + lesser ember chance (say you have 20 so far for +12%) = 47.25% chance for the legendary to drop

[sullen dove]

lul

[edgy widget]

mathematically speaking, it shouldn't be completely additive anyway, since combining a 5.5% chance and 27% chance is not the same as independently rolling separate 5.5% and 27% chances, but I digress

[errant vessel]

Wait so how many chances have we had so far

[edgy widget]

This week is the 12th week since the legendary became available in NA/EU

11th week for Asia

[errant vessel]

so only 30% chance of getting it next week

[edgy widget]

and a 100% chance of getting it the following week

assuming this all holds true, and you have consistently killed Fyrakk each week on Heroic

[errant vessel]

ye ofc

I don't wanna be negative either, but I don't get why they wouldn't have made it guaranteed this week

considering the tier is so close to over

[young swan]

i dont think the tier is "so close" to over

we're prob like 2/3 of the way through

[edgy widget]

I don't either, but... idk what's significant about this week vs next or the following?

I'm just guessing, but they probably kicked out the 100% mark a few weeks because they didn't want to announce a hotfix and then suddenly everyone gets the legendary - that would feel extremely artificial

[dire vigil]

Agree lol

[sullen dove]

better buy your mats now

[dire vigil]

Go buy your mats though

[sullen dove]

prolly gonna double in 2 weeks

[dire vigil]

Yeah lol

[edgy widget]

and to some degree it's going to feel artificial regardless once March 5 rolls around, but it would definitely feel a lot more immediate if we had hotfix on monday and 95% of the plate heroic raiding population loots the weapon on tuesday/weds

[dire vigil]

I still think it’s gonna be less. I think we overestimate how many people easily kill HC Fyrakk every week

We’re the loud minority

[edgy widget]

I was emphasizing for effect, but you get my point regardless

[sullen dove]

yea i mean its not every player no one rly saying that

but just about every mythic raider who still somewhat cares about the game and prog gonna get leggo at the same time

[edgy widget]

"95% of the heroic/mythic raiding population"

that better? lol, still the same point

[dire vigil]

I’m good with that at this point. I’m not even thinking about it as a rare drop anymore, more just like “we’ve been building this weapon for STR 2 hand classes and they will finish the tier with it, as intended”

[edgy widget]

there's a degree of context between

• hey we buffed they drop rate -> everyone gets the legendary within the next 3 weeks
  vs
• hey we buffed the drop rate -> everyone loots the legendary the next day

[dire vigil]

Gonna be hype to blast the tree adds in algethar academy with the axe

[brittle crow]

what if all roots dont die at the same time tho

sometimes they die over time a bit

[sullen dove]

i mean on a dragon set they should all die together

[modest condor]

it's the dive bomb roots

[sullen dove]

instantly

[brittle crow]

oh im not on mythic]

zzzz

[sullen dove]

yea heroic boss dmg who cares

send leggo on roots lol

[clever path]

How did upgrading the bow in sl go?

[sullen dove]

you had to have the bow

and you bought fated upgrade with dinar

[clever path]

How do you get dinar

[sullen dove]

killing bosses

30 for the first

20 for 2nd

10 for 3rd

[clever path]

And you only get 3?

[sullen dove]

numbers will prolly get brought down for raid sizes in this xpac

yes only 3 dinars for the season

[final eagle]

and if you kill heroic Fyrakk this week and Mythic too?

how the % works?

[clever path]

So lego>asscandy>augury

[dapper goblet]

confirmed only 3 next season

or you basing it off SL

[sullen dove]

we talking about sl

idk what they do

cant imagine they gonna spend that much more effort to make it different tho

like new raid affixes of course probably

[clever path]

How was the mythic difficulty in fated

For raid

[sullen dove]

its already a waste of time season would be weird to put more development in there but i think they said they'd add af ew more things

a lot easier than current mythic

for most bosses

there were bad combinations of certain affixes negatively affecting fights

but 95% of the time it was way easier

like sorta between heroic and mythic

we killed mythic fated KT the first day or 2 fated sod was available

was able to use our skips from before and just go right there

[clever path]

And did it rotate raid every week?

[sullen dove]

yeah

until about 2 months in

then all were fated permanently

[modest condor]

week 1 fated mythic felt about as difficult as full bis mythic at the end of a season

[clever path]

So you could pick

[sullen dove]

but like if it goes the same it'll probably be fated vault of the incarnates first

[edgy widget]

• if you kill heroic first, you should roll LFR+N+H all together
• if you then kill M, you should then roll just M separately
• if you kill M first, you should roll all of them together; killing a lower difficulty after would have no roll

[sullen dove]

then abberus the next week

then amir the third, and full clearing that amir would get you the dinar

[clever path]

Interesting

[sullen dove]

well, full clearing all the raids

but ending on amir

[final eagle]

Thank you!!

[clever path]

And is the dinar have different levels

[sullen dove]

no

dinars you buy item at normal item level

then upgrade them with things you get along side dinars based on bosses you kill

[clever path]

Interesting

[sullen dove]

kill 20 heroic bosses you combine the parts to make an item to upgrade normal to heroic

20 mythic same thing

leggo is myth ilvl already so not sure how that would go with a dinar

would ahve to assume it just is still bumped to very rare mythic ilvl

[clever path]

I stopped playing in legion so i saw none of this

[final eagle]

you got an item to upgrade it

thats they were doing on sl for the hunter bow

[sullen dove]

cuz there were 2 patches in between sylv bow and fated so sylv bow went from like 259? ilvl i think to 278 or something

or it mightve been 252

[clever path]

I just hope you dont need rare drop item for lego again lol

[sullen dove]

but basically it went from mythic ilvl of 2 tiers prior, to normal ilvl of fated tier, which is equivalent to mythic ilvl of sepulcher 1 tier prior

but this axe is already at that level

if fated jumps by 26 ilvls

496 would be the very rare normal ilvl of fated if it went the same, so dinar would either not change its ilvl or it dinars it to mythic ilvl and you dont have to drop a mythic upgrade token on it

cause you did for the bow

ppl that play classic are so bad

im sorry

this is just agonizing

[hardy cargo]

yeah its rlly bad

I like the dudes I raid with in sod a lot but.... like goddamn

[sullen dove]

if i was in a guild im sure itd be better

but i dont think ive had worse experiences doing pugs in retail

than trying to pug gnomer

[wanton mirage]

why is your enviroment dark?

[sullen dove]

inky black potion

[sick viper]

raiding with dumbasses feels worse when you remember there's a lockout

at least classic lockouts are like 3 days tho

[sullen dove]

on god no clue why these raids also have lockouts

just like mythic

3 garbage groups in a row cant kill the last boss

[hardy cargo]

I imagine pugging gnomer falls apart at the guy where you need groups

[sullen dove]

cuz im the only one doing the bomb mechanic

and its like 80% middle aged dads doing it for fun who just say "oop sorry gotta go wife aggro" or something similar and just leave the group

and then no one wants to join a group at 4/6 cuz they wouldnt get loot from first 4 bosses for that reset

remove this garbage lockout

[sick viper]

agreed, feels way worse in retail

[sullen dove]

i mean aside from mythic which i mean, youre either pugging first however many are easy for vault or youre in a guild or youre not doing it

[sick viper]

especially if you're tryna get CE for the first time

[sullen dove]

heroic/normal doesnt matter who leaves no one cares

you can always fill someone at no detriment to them or you

these classic raids shouldnt work like mythic raids

[sick viper]

the only thing the mythic lockout does is make ppl guild hop

[sullen dove]

this notion of threat too is such a joke in this game

cant dps for half an hour or youll tank the boss

[mossy fox]

dont think this is safe/appropriate for this channel

[dense brook]

lmao

[sudden tusk]

CritGasm

[clever belfry]

@eternal sundial check my profile

[warm crag]

eisenwaren

[balmy shore]

hi so is it 100% next week im not being baited

?

if we kill hc every week

or is it the week after

i am bad at counting

[oblique trail]

Supposedly the week after

[young swan]

think its the week after

[balmy shore]

man

legendary waiting room

[young swan]

ur just gonna get it next week

for sure

[balmy shore]

xan don't jinx it 💀

[fleet sorrel]

not worth making - xan

[balmy shore]

dude xan should trade me his making those kinda comments

[young swan]

buffed 3 times

[warm crag]

why does xan say these hurtful untrue things

xan get in the creek

[young swan]

more patch notes than fury since 10.0.5

[warm crag]

we're winning it

[young swan]

buy me the video game

and sure

[balmy shore]

u have go like "uwu" and ":3"

[hardy cargo]

It’ll be back down to 0 by tomorrow morn

[warm crag]

stop coping

also winning turing

[hardy cargo]

Pog

[young swan]

i do that normally

[hardy cargo]

I haven’t been able to play for most of the day only had time for 1 mission earlier (we failed)

[young swan]

i am a serial :3'er

[hardy cargo]

:3

[edgy widget]

Saw him at blizzcon, it’s true

[balmy shore]

i was going to reply with something mildly inappropriate but i took an extra second to not press enter

[modest condor]

i hope you managed to recover from that

[young swan]

???

[balmy shore]

i can't wait to actually meet warriors this year :3

[young swan]

:3

[hallow sphinx]

💅

[balmy shore]

HI GAJEEL BIG FAN

[edgy widget]

Better off not ruining it

[balmy shore]

archi i need a better description than green sweatshirt this time

asldkfjsdklfj

[umbral galleon]

if i meet a warrior with a biceps minor than mine i'll be arrested

[edgy widget]

I have a fuckin badge with my NAME AND PICTURE ON IT

[balmy shore]

i can't read

[young swan]

blind too, truly unfortunate

[edgy widget]

i was going to reply with something mildly inappropriate but i took an extra second to not press enter

[umbral galleon]

society if archi said what he wanted

[balmy shore]

see everyone in skyhold can learn this

[balmy shore]

ye i wear big glasses :3

[left perch]

Jackie has been really mean to you the last week or so wtf

[young swan]

everyones mean to me ;/

[bitter palm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720007490145747026/1045462765910884442/pies.gif

[young swan]

they take my natural canadian niceness for granted

[glad coyote]

you got your lego yet

[balmy shore]

im nice to xan

!!!

[young swan]

jackie is nice

usually..

[edgy widget]

idk, which is worse - being mean to someone's face or being fake nice to them?

[balmy shore]

oh easily fake nice

way worse

there's not enough time in the world to deal with fake ppl

[sick viper]

its only worse if they find out

[edgy widget]

now you sound like my ex

[sick viper]

"if you're gonna cheat on me just be good at it" - Sean Strickland

[hallow sphinx]

HI JACKIE

[tidal kindle]

Nothing wrong with breaking a couple hearts, or laws

Just dont get caught

If a tree falls in the woods type deal

[balmy shore]

bad

bad!!

[clever belfry]

we hate fury warrior

[tidal kindle]

we hate fury warrior

[sullen dove]

no longer

[mossy fox]

it done

[half cargo]

Did you enjoy the engaging and rewarding questline?

[mossy fox]

it was actually very challenging

i had to display excellence in order to complete it

[random hill]

gz !

[uneven plaza]

hi stream

[half cargo]

Yup, hence the trips to the proving grounds

Checks out

[shrewd osprey]

Congratulations

[carmine vector]

FINALLY CRITBOY GET IT
GZ BRO

[fickle jasper]

gz!

[wary pewter]

gz!

[tidal kindle]

Long con emote 3 years in the making

Grats

[covert blaze]

[balmy shore]

ember gang gets SMALLER!!!!

[tidal kindle]

Do I stop in flushing for dinner and het home by midnight

Actually nvm I dont even know whats open in flushing at this time

[balmy shore]

ngl ive never been in flushing at night

it was always saturday mornings to afternoons :3

[tidal kindle]

Yah same, other than queens night market

Big recommend

[balmy shore]

oh tru queens night market bangs

what is pain if not getting our furthest pull on fyrakk is me not getting broken out in the purple prison during second set of adds

[tidal kindle]

RIP

[modest condor]

killing it without legendary

[balmy shore]

man...

[modest condor]

man

[covert coyote]

guy in my guild got axe on 3 toons this week

[ember oyster]

is dungeon slice fine for fury? or should i go some other route

[covert coyote]

no dungeon slice isn't the way, i think we just use ST sims for everything beside trinks

[tawny slate]

that legendary questline so boring

[covert blaze]

Patchwerk 1 target 5 minutes

[balmy shore]

kill range kill range kill range

[dapper goblet]

Voodoo

[balmy shore]

no!!!!!!!!

[dapper goblet]

17% aka 100+ more pulls

[modest condor]

^

[tidal kindle]

We had 50 pulls

After a 5%er

Sorry 59

[mossy fox]

i believe in u jackie

mythic fyra drops it

or heroic next week so you can execute mythic fyra

[warm crag]

is 17% even kill range nowadays

what fight time is this

roar 1 ish?

~10s before roar 2

i suppose the hardest part is done

[balmy shore]

i think it drops next week and then we kill same day before i get it lolol

[warm crag]

do prog guilds burn 2 seeds on the first roar or is that too dangerous

[balmy shore]

we are yeah

i think

[warm crag]

how much time did you live on your best attempt

or how many roars

[balmy shore]

8.3% just now 9:27

uhh three

[mossy fox]

clean pull you got it surely

[warm crag]

i mean 8% is doable without the fourth seed

what even happens in p3 anymore

its legit just dont burn any of the three seeds

[mossy fox]

it's probably the easiest phase now

[warm crag]

i dunno if p2 dont burn 5 or more add check or p1 dont die check is harder

its probably p1 dont die check

[mossy fox]

just have to get there enough times

ya i think so

[balmy shore]

im so happy for this greater ember

yeah nothing happens in p3

[stoic plume]

xD

[balmy shore]

it's just dodge

lmao

[oblique trail]

important question

did you get bird

[mossy fox]

oh

[balmy shore]

LOL

[mossy fox]

big grats on kill anyway

[tidal kindle]

Too easy

Grats

[balmy shore]

KILL RANGE BOYS

[tidal kindle]

[balmy shore]

YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE

[mossy fox]

did you extend or reclear each week

[tidal kindle]

?

Read your chat

[mossy fox]

i believed

[tidal kindle]

BIG believer

Damn this squimshed stream 0 chat interaction

Going next

[stoic plume]

He did say he was here for the first kill during the kill

[tidal kindle]

🍃

[balmy shore]

IM NOT A STRREAMER

[balmy shore]

we extended after smolderon but would've recleared every week if we knew that tindral wasn't going to get nerfed for that long lmao

at least i got the mount right

[oblique trail]

That is the most important thing

Lets go

[fluid cedar]

we did it boys we got the orange stick

[tidal kindle]

Just not allowed to get kill + mythic augury + mount + lego

https://tenor.com/bpNpR.gif

[young swan]

[south kayak]

Mounts are eternal

Gear is temporary

[balmy shore]

ew

[covert blaze]

what a funny screenshot

grats jackie

[balmy shore]

TYYY

[dapper goblet]

voodoo too weak...

or jackie too strong..

[snow edge]

Maybe both

??

[scarlet swift]

Bullshit

[warm crag]

noob

shouldve ripped the 28 out of 13

[balmy shore]

tru noob noob noob

[small estuary]

Heh

Meanwhile

We out here wiping at 0% heroic Laro

[balmy shore]

ez kill next pull

[small estuary]

Nope

[sudden tusk]

i look here then i look at twitter and see the same ss

took me for a loop

[small estuary]

I love my guild but sometimes, it’s not it 🤣

[balmy shore]

rip

[balmy shore]

hi

[sullen dove]

king shit

[balmy shore]

💖

[sudden tusk]

gz on kill tho

[balmy shore]

TY

[clever path]

we stay humiliating dhs

[sullen dove]

bro just shit on a 40 year old dad 😭

[clever path]

is that someone of note?

[sullen dove]

no

im just saying thats just... not a great dh

bro basically stole candy from a kid and said "haha i got this candy from this idiot"

[slim coral]

alright boys mythic fyrakk time

wish me luck on the lego

🙏

[sullen dove]

[edgy widget]

congrats

[floral sequoia]

Is there hope that tindral will get nerfed again?

That fight is rough

[oblique trail]

Probably not

There's not much more they can nerf without completely depleting the fight to dust

[floral sequoia]

1 less dispell babyyyy

[edgy widget]

I wouldn't be surprised if it catches another nerf at some point, but I wouldn't expect one anytime soon

next season hasn't even been formally announced yet, so we definitely still have time in this tier

[sullen dove]

5% health nerf would be good

then we wouldve killed it 200 pulls ago

maybe.. dont remember

its all 1 conglomerate

i dont think its health has changed since rwf right it was like 1.2b first iteration then got nerfed 20% to the 969mil

[sick viper]

cancel season 4

[high basin]

Heroic nerfs will help sales

[balmy shore]

thank uuuu

[rose fog]

Pog. Got axe and a greater token.

Please explain

[modest condor]

grats

[balmy shore]

gzzzz

[wanton mirage]

gz for ember.

thats real shit

[thin steeple]

Question, does WW stuff work on my autos too? or only abilites

[wanton mirage]

ablities

[thin steeple]

hmmm, why is dancing blades taken so much more in higher keys over titanic rage? caues of the leggo dot stacking then?

for M+ that is sorry i shoulda clarfied

[young swan]

prio damage is generally viewed as more useful as you do higher and higher keys

[thin steeple]

that makes sense actually

[silk wharf]

last I looked it was also a drop in the bucket aoe increase relatively speaking.

[thin steeple]

I just wanna catch my ret pallie friend in overall in our keys so trying to edge anything out we both got our leggos this week

we just started doing 24s

[icy panther]

ember gang 🙂

[storm rune]

protip to beat your friends damage: Don't cast battle shout in range of them

[thin steeple]

lmfao

[covert blaze]

I do that when competing with guildies and they die in keys

[covert blaze]

the leggo doesnt stack

the active gains damage per mark

[meager gyro]

I guess you can get two legos then b/c it's still stacking BLP

[storm rune]

It's like second breakfast

[eternal sundial]

Was raid

[eternal sundial]

Was darf ich checken mon Ami

[south kayak]

phil

help me superbloom

[eternal sundial]

No

I have work as it is a work day

[south kayak]

caged

[woeful birch]

So you actually dont compete then.

[covert blaze]

[sullen dove]

[wanton mirage]

Called it

[sullen dove]

is that on facebook?

nahh

[final birch]

Facebook takes

She probably did 1 lfr into 1 normal and luckily got it

Yep

[slim coral]

lego did not drop

[sour frigate]

😿

[shy knot]

We all know this lego sucks but just GIVE

I wanna play the game

[sour frigate]

Just get it 😎

[eternal sundial]

Real

[meager gyro]

I don’t even want it anymore, outlaw warrior too good

[sour frigate]

same with windwalker woyer

[covert blaze]

fb 💀

[latent ledge]

She's not wrong though

I don't think anyone feels "excited" to get the leggo

they feel relieved they got it already on this absolute trash system

[final birch]

You missed the point

It felt like shit

Because she got lucky

It didnt feel easy to people who cleared the content every single week on heroic + some weeks on mythic (riku 10 mythic kills still no lego)

[plucky wedge]

i am on M tindle, should i sim the build for tingle or go back to ST hmmm

[supple egret]

do we not cast TR with avatar? guides saying cast it after odyns then cast avatar, trying to understand why

[sullen dove]

roars placement in the opener/rotation really doesnt matter all that much from single target perspective i think at least

it can be pretty much anywhere slotted in after odyns, whether thats before avatar or a little after avatar

so long as you like have the initial hit and all of the dot effect be under avatar/enrage + possibly take recklessness into consideration too no real reason not to

and also if you use like on use trinkets ideally in that

like if you might of the ocean on your odyns youd wanna roar with relative speed so that the full dot is in the trinket's buff window

like i dont think theres a perfect science or reason to do it any what way just yknow the sooner the better so its on cooldown sooner just cause never know when you might kill a boss or if you need it for an add set down the line or something

[supple egret]

tyty!

[sullen dove]

yea, the spear opener is a lot more set in stone cuz youre tryina game max value of fitting up to 4 empowered bb's in spear window if you lust on pull or whenever you spear, but roar is just kind of a smack it and fuggedabadit kinda thing

[still swift]

whoever thought spear is fun should be speared down

[sullen dove]

i enjoy it more this season than any other time pmuch this whole expansion

aside from when it was broken in sl

8 second spear on 40 second cd

[still swift]

rename to spearish

[sullen dove]

a bit cringe on smolderon and nymue sometimes but its cool u like feel/see the damage increase it gives you on the bbs

[still swift]

[twin glacier]

Anyone thinks that the new spear animation sucks. Liked the old one. Was visually clear

New one I don’t know even.

[sullen dove]

eh i mean.. it was visually clear in that it was not going to let you see any other mechanic inside of it

dont think this one is thaaat much different but its marginally better in that aspect

you def are just a pig rutting around in a pool of mud tho now

[twin glacier]

I legit don’t see it. But prolly it’s cuz running the game on a toaster would perform better than my so called pc

[sullen dove]

[still swift]

don't need to see it if u self cast

based

[sullen dove]

cant self cast when im being ethical on smolderon and not eating intermission rings and i have to pre send it before the last ring pops to charge into it

[still swift]

nice essay

happy to hear or sorry that happened but I ain't reading all that

[sullen dove]

nina when more than 10 words

[still swift]

real

born to be silly and stupid

forced to read fury

[sullen dove]

born to say 'oops sowwy :3' forced to say 'my fault gang'

[still swift]

born to say "meowdy everybunny" forced to say "yo"

[sour frigate]

how can i monetize it

[still swift]

do what sowwy

[sour frigate]

make cash

👉 👈

[still swift]

with what

😕

[sour frigate]

by being silly and stupid

[still swift]

oohh

[sour frigate]

😦

[covert blaze]

real

[still swift]

make money by being cute and have people give it to u

[covert blaze]

so streaming

[sour frigate]

saj i cant be cute

[still swift]

or just existing

[stuck bison]

I am ugly af so lemme continiue my 11 hours a day retail job

[sour frigate]

oh man

even 8 hr work day is so badge for me

[inner harbor]

yoo, on packs in M+ do you guys still use the leggo capacity ?

[hushed ocean]

if more than 8 targets (like EB first pull, tott first pull, some brh brh pulls), i use it right after popping all my CDs. If i wait after cds gone, pack is pretty already done...

[fading sky]

in that case i guess u should just send it before using cds?

i dno man shit dies so fast i havent rly gotten the hang of that shit either

[young swan]

it was already barely a loss to use it during cds before they made the on use hasted

it literally doesnt matter anymore

[fading sky]

ah didnt c i twas in fury

[woeful birch]

Its like sprinting 100m with a 5 year old. Call that a competition?

[covert blaze]

what are you yapping about man

[clever belfry]

kock und sack

[covert blaze]

hallo anda

[clever belfry]

[woeful birch]

Im not yapping. You said you dont battleshout for your mates you are "competing" with and i told you that you dont "compete" in that case. Thats like slapping a child and call it a fight.

[covert blaze]

ok

[clever path]

Did something change on the simulationcraft max fury warrior sims cause i don't remember fury ever breaking 250k?

[red yew]

[still swift]

[slim pollen]

More like not giving your opponent a pair of comfortable running shoes to have a better chance against you...

[eternal sundial]

Kock und Sack Tortur

[proud vessel]

How much do you guys sim with M+ cc talents?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uQxLoc149mSc2A3e57poQY
This is without hunters mark, windfury and PI

Curious if im on par with others as i can barely get any upgrades according to sims

[stuck bison]

We got shadow buffed

[proud vessel]

with these talents:

[still swift]

why dont u just link the talent build if u already want it that specific

[eternal sundial]

Guessing augury will make me outsim u here

[fleet sorrel]

[red yew]

No

[stuck bison]

Ember>augury in keys

[pure socket]

After great grind... the axe is done!

[eternal sundial]

Yappfrog

[clever belfry]

nein... kock und sack eisenwaren Hamburg

[eternal sundial]

Was zu fick

[slim coral]

I could go for a hamburger

[mossy fox]

get me one too

[river reef]

u heard the man. Go for Hamburger Angle today

[south kayak]

guess what i got yesterday

[proud vessel]

by how much?

[slim coral]

I’m trying to get you to do a Wendy’s stream lol maybe one day

[proud vessel]

really? does it just not sim great then?

[fading sky]

or Ember + augery in keys ?

is what i rock at least

[stuck bison]

3k behind st if i remeber correctly but i according to my feelcrafting it is more aoe burst + %2 dr

[eternal sundial]

I mean if ur simming st augury > ember for st generally

[stuck bison]

I like having more vers

[eternal sundial]

Ye it's good

But augury is dam

[fading sky]

i mean what would u use instead of ember ?

why not ember + aug ?

[stuck bison]

If you do 1min 10 boss sim ember>augury probably. I ll re sim it when i got home

Might+aug but not having str on both trinkets

[fading sky]

ah i replaced might with augery

i like having ember

and if its a very high keys, and tank is good at gettin stacks on signet into boss fights

i wear signet

[proud vessel]

Im running might 483+crab 489 but also have 483 ember, so i ill try might + ember for a change

[red yew]

Real

[river reef]

philliam

[red yew]

Lord Philliam the Fifth

[warm crag]

phil noober

[covert blaze]

real

[warm crag]

we're winning on the creek

[red yew]

Wtfff can't believe Spongie would say that!!!! 😱 (I can completely believe it)

[raw shuttle]

Best m+ trinkets fir fury?

[eternal sundial]

Toksik

[devout totem]

might + augury

[raw shuttle]

Thanks. What are good alternatives

[fading sky]

Ember + might

[snow edge]

Ember, Crab are both decent for Fury too

[fading sky]

hell signet if u are in higher keys with a good pulliung tank

extremely volatile though, to deaths and shit

[bitter palm]

augury signet in that case

on very high tyrans

where u can keep it up

[silk perch]

https://tenor.com/view/shirley-temple-giggle-laugh-gif-5118563

[calm river]

Hey does someone have maybe a Cheatsheet on the rotation? i somehow dont get over 230k dps with a gs of 467

[warm crag]

i mean you're about 20 ilvls behind

wowhead has tldr guides, they're pinned in the channel

[calm river]

yeah ik im behind but there should be more at this ilvl or nah?

[bitter palm]

ilvl means nothing

u could have a leggo

at that ilvl

or a 460 weapon

[hasty path]

Or zero mastery/haste

Because you aren’t at the iLvl where you’ll be optimizing secondaries yet

[calm river]

that makes sence my crit is way too high rn

[bitter palm]

crit is a good aoe stat

[hasty path]

It’s also ultimately not a game breaker

Don’t worry about numbers until you have gear

[calm river]

so i should just run my m+ instances and farm my gear

[hasty path]

Yes

You should be like 485+ by the time you start considering secondary distribution and side grades

[fading sky]

475+

Id say😅

[bitter palm]

480

[hasty path]

No

[bitter palm]

tbf this far into the season

480-485

is nothing

[hasty path]

Full 483 gear in all slots is farmable

[bitter palm]

yep

[hasty path]

Plus several 486 crafted

[fading sky]

Well.

Its pretty dumb not to stary at 475

[hasty path]

It’s not

[fading sky]

Seeing u can pgrade those to 483

[hasty path]

You should be upgrading any gear to 483 asap

Regardless of it’s stats

[fading sky]

Which would mean refarm. Flightstones nightare

[hasty path]

Yeah no

It doesn’t matter

7 iLvl gain is more important

[fading sky]

U should run dungeons with best drops

Once u hit key lvl 18

[calm river]

im on a 19 key rn

[bitter palm]

ye run droptimizer

see what u want

throne has a bunch of pieces

you want

cloak is insane there

both trinkets

u get good legs

2h

[calm river]

hmmm okay than i guess imma do that

[fading sky]

Exactly my point. Now simming and switchin gems and all that prob wait a bit

Crafted gear is somewhat expensive if u are poor

[calm river]

i am

haha

[slim pollen]

And best of all, you can spell reflect the drowning debuff from those big bois and F'em up with their own spell moahaha

[calm river]

then imma drown em back

[fading sky]

Ye prob our best dungeon🤣

[fading sky]

Ye so s crafted piece will prob cost u like 15k to get to 486

[hasty path]

Depends

[calm river]

damn but whats the gear i wanna get crafted?

[hasty path]

It shouldn’t be too expensive if you know crafters

But trade chat scammers are rough

[tidal heron]

So, do I read this as: "don't bother using the ability in M+, maybe on bosses you could use it but if you don't, it doesn't really matter all that much"?

[calm river]

the trinkets are bis from fyrakk or another boss arent they?

[calm river]

yeah i dont haha

[hasty path]

Fyrakk trinkets are good

But there are various good trinkets for fury atm

And a mix of aoe and st trinkets that you want to swap for different encounters/dungeons

Augury, Signet Brand, Might of the Ocean, etc

[hidden kite]

It means use it as much as possible now

[calm river]

yeah wowhead says the signet brand and the coiled serpent are best in slot

[warm crag]

where does it say that

[hasty path]

That’s… sus

I’ve never seen anyone using coiled serpent

Unless it’s all they had

[warm crag]

i guess you misunderstood what this means?

[tidal heron]

hm, when I read "0.1%" I don't automatically read "use it as much as possible"
higher dmg is higher dmg of course, even if it's only 0.1%
But then it also states it's a nerf in M+, so, I must be reading that post wrong then?

[subtle lagoon]

Coiled serpent

[warm crag]

that pin was written before the hasted part was implemented in simc no

[calm river]

ooh for raid the serpent

[warm crag]

it expectedly says signet augury for bis if you only gear from raid

[calm river]

yeah was on raid page mb

[hidden kite]

The overall changes is what makes it better in st and shittier in mt, but because of the change you have to use the on-use or ure losing out on its dmg potential

[ebon junco]

XDDD COILED SERPENT

[calm river]

but augury was bis right?

[ebon junco]

Serpent is piss dog

[subtle lagoon]

I think that was before the raid was even out in live

[ebon junco]

Even b4 raid came out it was known to be piss but 🤷‍♂️

Horrible trinket suggestion

Pips / Augury is just better.
Branch is also better

[subtle lagoon]

The wowhead page just hasn't been updated since then, coiled doesn't sim well at all

You can get better use out of might than serpent in raid

[fleet sorrel]

[dire badge]

Xans burner account found

[clever belfry]

can't read m8

[clever belfry]

do not flame snek
snek funny
pip boring

[calm river]

yeah thought that

[subtle lagoon]

I mean, the legendary isn't stated as bis even in the cheat sheet

[ebon junco]

[subtle lagoon]

[pulsar prawn]

looks like #268491842637660160 with Legion weakauras etc

[subtle lagoon]

Indie guide writers

[tardy lark]

Based

[ebon junco]

this is so up to date

[pulsar prawn]

or @soft totem 's 3 year old Covenant macros in #ui-addons-manager ... imagine there could be helpful links in the pins

[clever belfry]

need it for my weekly sylvanas mythic clear m8

[ebon junco]

doin one on sunday