#fury

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hasty path
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Mogmaxxed Paladin

covert blaze
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2 polygons on that mog

hasty path
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Literally none of those are low poly pieces

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They’re all from BFA or newer

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Except the belt I think is cata

zenith gorge
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A quick question - instead of shadowflame 2x would bracers and blue silken lining on neck work for tindral progress? Or would you rather take wrists and legs? Or still double shadowflame?

stuck bison
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Yes you can macro it all with might. Naming it swity macro is recomended but have seperate keybinds for them also for opener

warm crag
warm crag
wild mural
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Screenshot from mobile cause pc turned off

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🤝

warm crag
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syi spinal status

hardy cargo
wild mural
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(Hurts)

warm crag
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get well immediately

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we need you on the creek

zenith gorge
warm crag
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gajeel also got to not fly and got two pis

zenith gorge
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true

warm crag
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if you want to maximize pad, sure, go for that and make sure you stay grounded and get fed as many pis as possible

zenith gorge
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yeah roots are a problem for us atm btw

warm crag
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if you want to play for prog just do what literally everyone else did and play versa bracers with shadowflame

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i mean theres only like 2 root sets that arent solved by flyers

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is your flying going fine or

red yew
zenith gorge
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it is mostly, but we're still progging on P1/P2 because people say that roots don't get killed quickly enough

wild mural
warm crag
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that just isnt real though

red yew
hardy cargo
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pretty sure I played haste legs on my prog kill, but I was also told by my rl "idc if u do any boss damage just play for root dam"

warm crag
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go full pad then

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pants lariat

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proc it at that one root set in p3 where you get your cds with pot on roots that wont be broken by flyers

proud vessel
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So when is it best to use the leggy on use in M+?

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Like save it for big pulls (outside of cd's ofcourse), more on bosses or just use on cd?

glad coyote
shy knot
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Yes

red yew
worldly shard
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Gimme that mog

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That i cant get anymore

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Taeschalach goes so well with jugg elite

shy knot
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You mean the t20 not this

merry jetty
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can you/how do you droptimize legendary axe on raidbots

oblique trail
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You can add it in top gear, at the top

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Or in gear compare

merry jetty
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ty

ebon junco
eternal sundial
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Turkisch C icant

ebon junco
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i need

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undercover name

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for pvp

eternal sundial
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1 mil buy arms

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It's okay

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Or feetfuckerx

warm crag
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kidkickerx

paper ivy
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Do you loose a lot of dps on ST if u take roar instead of spear? Last season it was 1-2%

eternal sundial
eternal sundial
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As the 2 are easy spear bosses

warm crag
sharp kraken
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so question, I am sitting at 474 ilvl but I am not sure where I should be aiming for dps. I have been using Hekili / Hero Rotation just for general idea of what rotation would look like and trying to follow the rotation priority I have seen posted around but I spike to about 180k and then stick around 133-140k ... not sure if I am in the ballpark or I should be doing higher

warm crag
eternal sundial
rotund ginkgo
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hunter pulls gnalroot with his pet

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and i get flamed for being fury

eternal sundial
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Fury dog smh

warm crag
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its going alright

sharp kraken
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so I dont follow the addon like the bible but I have it in a corner with an addon I forget that shows me what ability I am using. Right now I am following the priority bellow in my head at least:

Odyn’s Fury
Bloodbath (even if overcapping rage)
Rampage
Bloodthirst (if Rampage was NOT your previous ability OR if you can’t afford Rampage yet)
Execute
Slam
Whirlwind

Opener:
Recklessness + Charge
Rampage
Odyn’s Fury
Champion’s Spear
Bloodbath
Rampage
Bloodbath
Rampage + Avatar
Bloodbath

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at least for ST

eternal sundial
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Looks good

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Rest of your dam will be playing well and gear

oblique trail
warm crag
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the science teams have not been rescued

sharp kraken
dire badge
stuck pewter
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CE raider and got the mount 🫡

eternal sundial
warm crag
# dire badge

up right down down down has a cd of 2 minutes and it spawned a tank every 30 seconds

clever path
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Question, is there an addin where you can set up CDs to use around specific fight times

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Like “hey remember to use this instead if this at the time”

oblique trail
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You can't make an addon use buttons for you, but you can use your personal note in ERT and setup timers there

clever path
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Nope dont need the buttons

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Just want a reminder

oblique trail
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Then use the personal note

clever path
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Okay cool

eternal sundial
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itll show you an icon with the WA

clever path
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Cool

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Thanjs

eternal sundial
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you can even yoink it from lorrgs for the note

oblique trail
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Together with a WA like Kaze's timers to announce the reminders to you

clever path
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Specifically for tindral

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Since thise cd timers are kinda weird

eternal sundial
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id only add sr to it

eternal sundial
clever path
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I have p1 and p2 timers down

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Just not p3

hard widget
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I think new highest spell reflect of the season? xD

clever path
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Throne is my favorite dungeon to spell reflect

inner zinc
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Dunno, everbloom and waycrest have some juicy spell reflects too

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Spell reflecting archmage sol fireballs gives me good dopamine boosts, same as wasting strike from lord waycrest

pulsar prawn
hard widget
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Whats wrong with my ui xD

eternal sundial
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do not look at overall in the clip

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xd

hard widget
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Legendaryless warrior 😦

pulsar prawn
hardy cargo
# warm crag

im about to try my first creek mission on helldive difficulty its been nice knowing you soldier

gilded pawn
covert blaze
strong swan
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Does 2 shadowflame embellishments stack?

covert blaze
strong swan
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How many embellishments can we have on gear 3?

oblique trail
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2

strong swan
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Thank you

oblique trail
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The food embellishment doesn't count towards the cap though

strong swan
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Alright

fossil hatch
tardy lark
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did you just tell the guy that posted the clip of himself reflecting the exact spell you are telling him is reflectable

hard widget
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Yes

tardy lark
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is prolly better

hard widget
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Dw i was just as confused

fossil hatch
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Seemed like u didnt know that IT works

clever belfry
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reflect dn bro

covert blaze
charred panther
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Myself and many others I know got the leggo this week. They must have buffed that shit well.

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Can’t imagine it’ll be many more kills for anyone else who has been killing it since the beginning

covert blaze
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ask critcake

clever belfry
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its a gr8 system m8

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stop complainign right this instant

rigid stirrup
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lets see who is really the unluckiest come next week

meager void
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fml, they actually hotfixed this bs after the NA reset

ebon junco
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xdd

bitter palm
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or bait

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how do they know if its guaranteed or not

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if these are true its sad

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7 mythic kills

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15 heroic

rigid stirrup
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just copy pasta from the wowhead article

ebon junco
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mid article

bitter palm
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bro this system is so ass

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so by the week of march 5th you are "guaranteed" to get it from heroic according to the article

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which is like

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1 month away from s4

dire badge
# ebon junco mid article

Please for the love of god do not talk any more. I am a consumer and have been gaming for 35 yrs sparky; I've had plenty of mass online titles with minimal disruption. Just because you clearly get walked over in your life doesn't mean consumers can't expect a certain quality. I didn't demand LE goes and jumps off a bridge, just highlighting some of the impact that people sometimes seem to forget. But we can discuss further when you serve me my Big Mac as its clear you have no exposure to business or any self respect. Also there are plenty of "new" gamers like my wife who have standard expecations that people have with about any product sold and it unfortunately is a huge turn off from gaming. Ps..hold the pickles please.

gilded pawn
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where is this content from

dire badge
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last epoch discord

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banger after banger

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cause the servers don’t work

covert blaze
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Please for the love of god do not talk any more. I am a consumer and have been gaming for 35 yrs sparky; I've had plenty of mass online titles with minimal disruption. Just because you clearly get walked over in your life doesn't mean consumers can't expect a certain quality. I didn't demand LE goes and jumps off a bridge, just highlighting some of the impact that people sometimes seem to forget. But we can discuss further when you serve me my Big Mac as its clear you have no exposure to business or any self respect. Also there are plenty of "new" gamers like my wife who have standard expecations that people have with about any product sold and it unfortunately is a huge turn off from gaming. Ps..hold the pickles please.

bitter palm
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Please for the love of god do not talk any more. I am a consumer and have been gaming for 35 yrs sparky; I've had plenty of mass online titles with minimal disruption. Just because you clearly get walked over in your life doesn't mean consumers can't expect a certain quality. I didn't demand LE goes and jumps off a bridge, just highlighting some of the impact that people sometimes seem to forget. But we can discuss further when you serve me my Big Mac as its clear you have no exposure to business or any self respect. Also there are plenty of "new" gamers like my wife who have standard expecations that people have with about any product sold and it unfortunately is a huge turn off from gaming. Ps..hold the pickles please.

sand arch
dire badge
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You’ll presumably upgrade it with dinar

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Or buy one with dinar

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assumption is the first one

bitter palm
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well they let sylvanas bow

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they let hunters upgrade it

dire badge
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correct but it wasn’t buyable

bitter palm
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idk if they could buy the bow with the dinar tho

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ye

warm crag
# dire badge Please for the love of god do not talk any more. I am a consumer and have been g...

Please for the love of god do not talk any more. I am a consumer and have been gaming for 35 yrs sparky; I've had plenty of mass online titles with minimal disruption. Just because you clearly get walked over in your life doesn't mean consumers can't expect a certain quality. I didn't demand LE goes and jumps off a bridge, just highlighting some of the impact that people sometimes seem to forget. But we can discuss further when you serve me my Big Mac as its clear you have no exposure to business or any self respect. Also there are plenty of "new" gamers like my wife who have standard expecations that people have with about any product sold and it unfortunately is a huge turn off from gaming. Ps..hold the pickles please.

bitter palm
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i hope they dont do the same

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this time

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NAH

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I KNOW

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YOU WILL BE ABLE TO BUY THE QUEST STARTER LEGGO

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100%

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BLIZZ MOVE

sand arch
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But what they did to dracthyrs leggo?

bitter palm
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what

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u cant upgrade naszuro this season

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cause this is a regular season

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you couldnt upgrade sylvansa bow in sepulcher either

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s4 is fated

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you get access to all raids

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all items

dire badge
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there hasn’t been fated season dlands yet

latent ledge
bitter palm
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yeah its a joke

latent ledge
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which means that newcoming players / new chars are omega fucked

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this system its so fucking cringe

sand arch
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So, may we use leggo in s4?

bitter palm
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most likely they will let us

latent ledge
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I assume they will just allow to upgrade it

bitter palm
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like they did with sylvanas bow in sl

indigo arch
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Hope so, because I'll be in s4 by the time I get mine

sand arch
indigo arch
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Got to watch a ret who died right at pull get one, and another doing a sick 90k

latent ledge
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Hot take

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but even Legion legendary system

dire badge
latent ledge
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was better than this dogwater

bitter palm
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it fucking wastn

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thats turbo cope

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sure after the vendor

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w/e

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pre vendor

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hell no

shy knot
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Legion leggo system was ok

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You just grinded shit and it droped

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I had like 3 alts with bis leggos

red berry
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tbh

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I grinded all of legion on my warrior for the execute ring

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It didn’t drop until near the end

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When I was farming the stuff to buy it

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blizzard historically for quite awhile not really done item acquisition kindly and they should just do questlines and let you farm specific items to buy pieces of gear you want

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be a modern MMO

olive wraith
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So I really am one of the chosen unlucky

covert blaze
olive wraith
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The fact that crit hasn’t gotten it is wild though. With all those bonus lessers

bitter palm
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with 5 alts and all shit leggos

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high end raiders who were cucked

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cause of the shit systme

grave stone
olive wraith
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Allegedly

shy knot
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Same today

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Players like Crit getting fucked by rng since release

grave stone
olive wraith
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Actually didn’t he clear mythic

grave stone
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week 14 is 100%

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after the recent buffs to the embers

olive wraith
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The numbers are based on heroic right? I only skimmed the post

grave stone
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yes

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6 fyrakk mythic kills is a 100%

oblique trail
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It's not accurate, which they also state in the article

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It's basically still speculation

still swift
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if they were datamined now why not datamine them when they came out and ppl wondered

covert blaze
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squishei chatting

grave stone
south kayak
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@chrome plover Please for the love of god do not talk any more. I am a consumer and have been gaming for 35 yrs sparky; I've had plenty of mass online titles with minimal disruption. Just because you clearly get walked over in your life doesn't mean consumers can't expect a certain quality. I didn't demand LE goes and jumps off a bridge, just highlighting some of the impact that people sometimes seem to forget. But we can discuss further when you serve me my Big Mac as its clear you have no exposure to business or any self respect. Also there are plenty of "new" gamers like my wife who have standard expecations that people have with about any product sold and it unfortunately is a huge turn off from gaming. Ps..hold the pickles please.

grave stone
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what matters is that its a guaranteed drop rate within the next couple of weeks

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which is how a good BLP system should be designed

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i also cleared mythic and was the last person to get the legendary

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in my guild

oblique trail
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Again no one knows that it's gonna be guaranteed lol

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If you read through the article, there are a lot of mentions "should"

grave stone
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that's the only logical reason why the buff took place

oblique trail
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And they don't actually know

mossy fox
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at least i know now i should be free on that week early march

covert blaze
olive wraith
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Next week crit

covert blaze
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next week for sure

olive wraith
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Surely

grave stone
still swift
oblique trail
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don't have existential dread

still swift
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u didn't respond to my DM for the past 3 hrs how should I not

oblique trail
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I can not

still swift
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ok so u hate me

oblique trail
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also it was 6 minutes ago

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dont spread misinformation

south kayak
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LAST EPOCH SUCKS

still swift
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3 hrs

oblique trail
still swift
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1 human minute is 30 woof minutes

oblique trail
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quick math

humble plover
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@mossy fox I'd give you mine if I could sir

chrome plover
# south kayak <@173228061074915329> Please for the love of god do not talk any more. I am a co...

Yeah, this whole launch debacle has convinced me that leaving D4 to play this game was a mistake. I'm reinstalling Diablo right now. Time and time again it is proven that only Blizzard is capable of handling a game of this scale and I don't think I'll be stepping outside my comfort zone again seeing as D4 is a 9.5/10 anyway. I took half a day off from the mines last night to play on release, ended up losing track of time in the queue and missed my next shift. I've been let go from a prestigious Coal Drill Bit Wiper's assistant position and now my e-bike is in danger of being repossessed. Having a smoke now to try to calm my nerves, hands are literally shaking. My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, 'If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.'. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- 'Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 28, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because this chat gave me cancer anyway. Thanks EHG.

south kayak
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Yeah, this whole launch debacle has convinced me that leaving D4 to play this game was a mistake. I'm reinstalling Diablo right now. Time and time again it is proven that only Blizzard is capable of handling a game of this scale and I don't think I'll be stepping outside my comfort zone again seeing as D4 is a 9.5/10 anyway. I took half a day off from the mines last night to play on release, ended up losing track of time in the queue and missed my next shift. I've been let go from a prestigious Coal Drill Bit Wiper's assistant position and now my e-bike is in danger of being repossessed. Having a smoke now to try to calm my nerves, hands are literally shaking. My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, 'If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.'. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- 'Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 28, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because this chat gave me cancer anyway. Thanks EHG.

humble plover
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Holllllly yikes

olive pine
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Essays in the chat

fallen ginkgo
covert blaze
oblique trail
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yeah well I'm from the future

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and the last epoch servers still work

south kayak
oblique trail
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I meant to say

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still don't work

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but you'll see for yourself in the future

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whether I am a fraud or not

south kayak
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That is indeed what we will see

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I am wasting my time

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we'll see in 2 days if it still works

white comet
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Excuse my noob ignorance but where do you find Bloodbath? I cannot locate it in the talent tree nor in the spellbook?
I see it mentioned in the rotation guide on icy veins and in numerous posts but cannot locate it.

oblique trail
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It's after you cast rampage with reckless abandon talented

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Bloodthirst turns into bloodbath

covert blaze
oblique trail
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I am an idiot indeed

south kayak
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mobile looking ass game

versed harness
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Hey guys dumb question of the day. On the Fyr'alath leggo axe. Is the dot and the on use combined into Mark of Fyr'alath in details?

oblique trail
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yes

versed harness
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ok cool

oblique trail
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There's a script somewhere that I don't know where to find, that separates them

versed harness
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sorry was wondering if i was messing up on something

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I appreicate it

south kayak
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Did you get to play anything banezi

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i managed to get level 21

oblique trail
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no

south kayak
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earlier today when it was fine

oblique trail
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Because I didn't want to bother spending 5 minutes per zone swap

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If not longer

dire badge
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I got level 15

oblique trail
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It's just not worth my time innit

dire badge
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I got stuck in an LE-61 last night and the moment I closed the game, servers fixed for everyone

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Maybe it’s me

south kayak
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it's just you man

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stay offline so we play

white comet
oblique trail
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Yes as I said

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Reckless abandon

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It's the 2nd bottom row in the middle

dire badge
south kayak
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Game can't even handle 100k people

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I think this is a pretty low number in terms of online games

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especially launch

dire badge
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yeah in slight defense of them their highest CCU was like 13k?

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stop making good games developers clueless

south kayak
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and people in early access still said it was laggy

dire badge
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yeah

south kayak
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The main dev guy literally wrote a post about how he didn't realize 150k people were gonna play in launch

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man all you had to do was talk to me

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i'd have told you

dire badge
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Yeah lmao

south kayak
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Maybe I should just play offline

dire badge
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Just marketing as the mid point between POE and d4 should have made you think you’d get giga players

vague copper
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Fuck this... I gone buy an orange car or something irl just to show that I have something that is orange!!

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Shitgame

south kayak
dire badge
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def had seen more and more over the last couple weeks but I hadn’t looked into it super hard

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Not a shocker for sure

south kayak
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I actually expected more

forest rose
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damn those lfr drop rates are lethal for the lego

gilded pawn
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The upside is

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Helldiver server is now alive

humble plover
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For democracy

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Liberty

meager void
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so math be damned, we should do LFR, Normal, HC for best chances

deft lance
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Nice, killed fyrakk since week 1 besides last week

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didnt get lego

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i quit

humble plover
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Evokers had it way worse, you guys will be fine

meager void
# meager void

this BS is too much. Its not even about the 12% I missed from doing Fyrak HC a few hours before the hotfix but the principle.

gilded pawn
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the hypothesis is that if you do heroic, you roll 3 dices in the background

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as opposed to rolling 1 dice at a time

deft lance
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Nah im good, I just resent the game at this point. I dont want a lego associated with my class

gilded pawn
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someone here said they got the leggo AND an ember in 1 fight

meager void
gilded pawn
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which suggests theres multiple dices is in the background

meager void
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because yeah, thats how probabilty works in the way they worded this BLP bs. 3 rolls with 3 different 100% universes or 1 roll adding the 3 percentual changes from each difficulty but on a 300% universe

dire badge
gilded pawn
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no

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im saying is 10/10/40/40

dire badge
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oh real ok

meager void
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Sim it tho

olive wraith
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What should my blp stat weights be

humble plover
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It's definitely 0/0/0/0 tho

fading bane
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is this just a last epoch discord now?

covert blaze
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Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

fading bane
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"connecting"

gilded pawn
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no its a helldivers discord

fading bane
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im getting that too

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but isnt it like 100gb download

gilded pawn
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its not that bad

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just leave it on overnight

meager void
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I miss Roidstack

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and SMF enjoyers

humble plover
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Syi still here

south kayak
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Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

wild mural
south kayak
humble plover
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Hi gamer

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He said smf. He called

wild mural
meager void
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I feel ive missed something

south kayak
fading bane
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idk difference, i just boot game and press the play button

humble plover
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Syi I killed the lizard and need your approval or it was all for naught

humble plover
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Yea the angry one that's on fire

wild mural
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Oh

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Very proud

humble plover
wild mural
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I’ve got a 6/9m guild in my DMs trying to recruit me

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From raider.io where I said I wanted 9/9 guild

modest condor
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nice

humble plover
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6 and 9 are close enough right

wild mural
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Yes

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Very much so

dire badge
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they’re actually a future 9/9 guild you just haven’t made it to that point in time

modest condor
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wait 6/9 that's not even on tindral yet

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oof

fading bane
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they are 6/9 for the funny number

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they are not bad

edgy widget
modest condor
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man

edgy widget
gilded pawn
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why cant your predict the future

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why cant you tell me when blizzard will officially get acquired

edgy widget
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The only reason they were discovered now is becuase Blizz pushed a hotfix and then told us what the hotfix was for - a string of numbers in an obscure table doesn't usually tell you much, but if they outright tell us what they hotfixed and there was only one hotfix that day... it becomes a whole lot easier to put 2 and 2 together

gilded pawn
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wait

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thats actually so interesting

mossy fox
edgy widget
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it's called backwards engineering, and most of the in-depth theorycrafting (stuff like SimulationCraft) is based off it

humble plover
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Next week for sure crit

gilded pawn
oblique trail
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Which is the point I was making

edgy widget
modest condor
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i also like the people that say they've killed fyrakk 14 times already when the article says it's only been 12 weeks since the legendary is available

edgy widget
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most of our knowledge and understanding is from using what information is available to backwards engineer the math until it comes out correct

gilded pawn
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oh i see

south kayak
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Banezi, did you manage to get it, seems to be doing better right now

edgy widget
#

RPPM is another good example - Blizzard has never actually explained how that system works

somber elk
#

yay we get legy in 2 weeks

oblique trail
south kayak
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get in*

oblique trail
#

oh

gilded pawn
#

is RPPM just done by extensive testing

oblique trail
#

no I haven't tried

mossy fox
#

happy for your orange stick benzai

south kayak
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What are you playing anyways?

edgy widget
#

Also I like that it tacitly confirms our original theory - the Greater Embers are completly cosmetic

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BLP just counts how many times you kill the boss, the embers themselves don't actually have any function

oblique trail
#

Or do you still have mythic attempt today

edgy widget
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The part I find that's interesting is that it's not a linear scale - it goes up by ~3% per week and then suddenly jumps from 30 to 100%

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or even on Mythic, the chance is low each week and then after 6 weeks or whatever, the game is suddenly like "ok fuck it, here you go"

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part of that is probably from whatever combined drop chance from lower difficulties (mythic chance + heroic + normal + lessers) they use, so it's not actually 30%, but it's still intriguing nonetheless

silver mantle
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Well, we're going to find out if that's true or not in 2 weeks time.

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What an era to be alive.

edgy widget
#

Also interesting is that pre-hotfix, there was no such jump - no built in guarantee that you'd ever get it

edgy widget
hasty path
#

NA players still in shambles

silver mantle
#

At this point, I can't even be bothered to worry anymore

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Change, do not change

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it's irrelevant

hasty path
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Everyone in my guild did it this week before the change

wanton mirage
#

I bet there will still be some poeple that will complain about lego being guaranteed drop when it becomes after 12 weeeks.

edgy widget
silver mantle
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I remember 2 weeks ago I had an actual bout of mild depression over being literally the last plate raider in my guild not to have the legendary

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Wrote a ticket and politely asked for confirmation on how this bloody system worked

wanton mirage
#

Wow bargaining stage

edgy widget
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lmao

silver mantle
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GM told me that "having the legendary should feel special" and that "it's not guaranteed that everybody will get it"

wanton mirage
#

U did reach

silver mantle
#

Special, as in, I'm the only "special" raider in my team

hasty path
#

The first 2 leggos in my guild went to a non-raider friend, and then my warrior alt

silver mantle
#

Boy did that change my mood

edgy widget
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"I'll activate a 12 month sub if you give it to me next reset!"

silver mantle
#

If only that worked

hasty path
#

Neither of our DKs have it still

edgy widget
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only people in my group who have it are a tank DK alt and H Pal who hasn't even bothered to do the quest so....

oblique trail
#

my cowarrior doesn't have it yet, but our prot pala has it and on his dk alt

edgy widget
#

idk what yall complaining for lmao

oblique trail
#

very funny

edgy widget
#

Shit I didn't even get a Gavel until I bought one with Dinar in the fated season of SL

silver mantle
#

Honestly, I'm not even mad anymore. It's just plain stupid how they purposefully implement systems like that despite continuous feedback from players

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And, like, yeah. A lot of people have giga L-takes

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but still

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We've had systems upon systems and each one is worse than the last

south kayak
#

I disagree what that last statement

edgy widget
hard widget
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For mounts and transmog or titles sure

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But not for a weapon the class is tuned around

lean nacelle
#

It was just dumb that they tuned us around the leggo so we were weaker than classes who didn't have a leggo option.

silver mantle
#

It's fine. Whatever the drop chance is. Guaranteed or not. Legendary or not. It's whatever at this point

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I've reached the nirvana of not giving a care

edgy widget
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I mean that's an extremely short-winded way of putting it, but it's the most basic explanation - virtually everyone likes the feeling of "I am one of the few with this super cool thing others can be jealous of" and special things don't feel special when literally everyone has them

But nobody ever wants to be the person who doesn't have the special thing - it's a big surprise pickachu moment for them when they realize they're not the main character 😆

silver mantle
edgy widget
silver mantle
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It's not that I don't like when people have stuff I don't posses

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I don't like when I consistently farm something

modest condor
#

i just dont like being unable to parse on farm because of some item with a special effect that has a tiny dropchance

silver mantle
#

and then am not rewarded for my effort

edgy widget
silver mantle
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when they clearly advertise it as being a deterministic system

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(which it isnt)

modest condor
#

nobody advertised the legendary as deterministic

edgy widget
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I don't think they ever said it was deterministic fwiw, but even if it was that doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get it (although after these changes, I suppose you will be in 2 weeks)

silver mantle
#

I vaguely remember some dev interview where that wa mentioned

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And how they learned from the evoker legendary

edgy widget
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I don't think they did, I think that's some community mandella effect

silver mantle
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might be misremembering though, so I take that back

edgy widget
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all they said was that they're adding BLP from the beginning, as a lesson learned from the Evoker lego (which had it added halfway through)

silver mantle
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Ok, my bad. It's not deterministic.

edgy widget
#

and I'm not picking on you here fwiw; I'm in the same boat - I don't have the legendary, none of my guilds dps do, and it's definitely not fun

rigid stirrup
#

I'd have no problem with the legendary if the power spike didn't mean being gate kept from content I wanted to do. It sucks to say but getting it made the game more fun because I could do the stuff I wanted (+27) keys to do. I liked the evoker Lego that it gave the evoker a small power spike but it benefited the group more

edgy widget
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the legendary isn't keeping you from doing +27 keys

silver mantle
edgy widget
#

would you be better in keys with it? Sure, but that's not the same thing

umbral galleon
#

someone who has a vengeance geared alt answer me on prot chat please

rigid stirrup
#

As far as getting into groups outside of my own key I'd say it's a pretty big factor in thr selection process.

umbral galleon
#

dh disc aint working

modest condor
#

yeah that's a take.
1: plenty of warriors have done +27 keys without the legendary

edgy widget
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^

rigid stirrup
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But I was getting kicked out of groups the second I got inspected

modest condor
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2: in a season without a legendary you still wouldnt get invited

edgy widget
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3: even with the legendary, you still might not get invited

silver mantle
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No man, you don't understand

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i would have timed that 28 EB

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if only I had leggo

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before they nerfed it smh

umbral galleon
edgy widget
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if you played better, you might have timed it anyway

modest condor
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it's just the nature of pugging, especially as an off-meta dps

umbral galleon
#

sry wrong mention

cerulean spire
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Is there a sim string that I can import different crafted items to test?

silver mantle
#

That was an example of some guy here complainign about the legendary tuning

umbral galleon
#

didnt meant to mention u archi

silver mantle
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some weeks ago

rigid stirrup
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I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm not saying the content can't be done without it I'm saying others in the pug process WILL gatekeep if you didn't have it

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Saying they don't is foolish

rigid stirrup
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And I did have some 27s done without the Lego

silver mantle
#

Wait, lemme dig smth out

edgy widget
#

attributing that entirely to the legendary, in a season where Warriors aren't meta anyway, is kinda foolish too though

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like I get what you're saying, but blaming everything on not having the legendary, and acting like you're somehow entitled to it, is foolish

umbral galleon
#

@rigid stirrup

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people will never invite warriors

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just get it over with

dire badge
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they would have invited the rank 3 warrior

umbral galleon
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i just gave you an example

edgy widget
umbral galleon
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i had 24s timed and they would reject me on 18s

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ffs

edgy widget
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also fwiw, you can apply this conversation to practically anything btw

umbral galleon
#

get that in your head

edgy widget
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Augury is a good example

dire badge
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no clue I read 0 context just saw the sick rank flex

umbral galleon
dire badge
rigid stirrup
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When was I acting entitled? I don't rage DM people when I don't get invited but I'm talking when I do get invited and then proceeded to get kicked multiple times because the explanation was no Lego

umbral galleon
#

who raged on u

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we have a chat for dm reports

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^

covert blaze
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What

silver mantle
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FOUND IT!

white comet
#

In the tooltips damage is usually described as a percentage of attack power.
However, my attack power is listed as 0 (using dejacharacterstats add on).
What gives?

silver mantle
#

This guy here was tryhard and going aggro after the legendary changes.

edgy widget
modest condor
edgy widget
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I bet there's some other gear upgrade that one of the 5 people in group didn't have

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using that as justification as to how you should have axe, or somehow need axe is... kinda weird

silver mantle
covert blaze
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No leggo will not keep you from clearing content

silver mantle
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But skyhold went full aggro

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and I was labeled a troll

edgy widget
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Yeah, the legendary isn't the failure point there

silver mantle
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funn times

edgy widget
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it could be a factor, absolutely

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but it's far from the only factor

silver mantle
#

I mean, if you miss a timed key by 4s

dire badge
silver mantle
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that's 1 death

umbral galleon
#

fury chat is so funny

edgy widget
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Yeah, that's a lot of things tbh

umbral galleon
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can legit eat popcorn and just read

silver mantle
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It's cool when you say it archi, since you have an orange name

edgy widget
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one of the interesting things about WoW and M+ in particular, there are so many faucets to it - it's never really just "one" thing

silver mantle
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but when a brown name says it... oh boy

edgy widget
ebon junco
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M+ is a minigame

edgy widget
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I'm not a big time streamer that people are obsessed with hanging on every word

dire badge
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tmy is a miniman

umbral galleon
edgy widget
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I can only imagine what discord chat would have looked like if this were TBC and we were farming Warglaives 🤣

gilded pawn
umbral galleon
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sry if u enjoy prog ur a masochist or obsessed with appearences

rigid stirrup
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I'm speaking from personal experience with pugs. It's not a matter of I need this to clear content. it's the matter of getting invited to it and being dropped because you don't have the axe. Again I don't have this problem anymore but it wasn't a warrior thing before because I got invited it was a Lego thing because I got dropped after and the explanation was not having it. Not looking for a response but just wanted to clarify

modest condor
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did they tell you they kicked you because you dont have lego?

rigid stirrup
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Yes

silver mantle
umbral galleon
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LMAO u got a case apart

silver mantle
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Also got both bindings of the windseeker

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in like 2 runs of molten core

umbral galleon
dire badge
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if you get kicked from a group for any reason it was a deplete key anyways be happy

umbral galleon
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cuz u dont wanna lose the argument

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but giving the benefit of the doubt

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yeah sure

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they could

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but its one in a thousand

silver mantle
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If I have to be completely honest, part of the reason I dislike this current legendary acquisition system

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is that they give you a false sense of progression

umbral galleon
balmy shore
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me angry me no legendary

silver mantle
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Like, there is progression, but it's so low (pre-buff) that it might as well have been non-existent

ebon junco
indigo quarry
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somebody taking minigame too seriously

silver mantle
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Either be transparent and tell us how long it will take, or tell us it's a flat 1% chance and be done with it

umbral galleon
dire badge
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my mini game > your mini game

silver mantle
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anyway, crying is over

umbral galleon
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but you go on my server and i go on urs

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i'll show you how to get rank 1 with 150ms

wild mural
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my mini game is better than your mini game chatting

dire badge
#

brother went with the longhand form clueless

umbral galleon
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we're talking about lol if any1 is lost

ebon junco
umbral galleon
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me and tym

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tmy

ebon junco
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Show me how to get r1's

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Please

umbral galleon
#

lets go

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add me

ebon junco
umbral galleon
#

dmd u

dire badge
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this is how I got all my online friends I antagonized them till they would accept my friend request

rigid stirrup
dire badge
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fair cause queue simulator in wow is worse than last epoch and helldivers

gilded pawn
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yeah but those games are good once you get in

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wow is still bad

rigid stirrup
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But I'm finishing up 27s and moving into 28s now so all g

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My fun is back

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I wish my AMD drivers or the deva actually stopped fucking me so I can play hell divers

errant steppe
#

Can you actually get more than 50% drop rate on the superbloom farm?

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or you can get the buff only once

rigid stirrup
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Apparently the tool tip is a lie and the buff stacks

silver mantle
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You can get it multiple times

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But you need multiple people

errant steppe
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i see

rigid stirrup
#

You can't do it again once you've done it once right?

silver mantle
#

The quest to obtain the dreamleaf or w/e it's called?

rigid stirrup
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Yeah

silver mantle
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I think so

rigid stirrup
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Just wanna prep to telling my guild that I can't help them with that

heavy folio
#

when to use the axe on tindral? just got it today

errant steppe
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i got the leaves but i cant use em on ppl with the buff and they cant use em on me

young swan
umbral galleon
#

yea

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it can

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but it depends on -15 less people to fuck up

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way way easier

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also m+ mechanics are a joke

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can't even compare to two last bosses of a mythic tier

left perch
#

gm fury having a good yap?

silver mantle
rigid stirrup
left perch
umbral galleon
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or havent read

rigid stirrup
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Assuming your group 1 dragons you use it when you come down since you're safest there

young swan
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yes m+ is a minigame and raid is the real content

rigid stirrup
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People usually use it during non dragon root sets

umbral galleon
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ok

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we're on the same page

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good.

young swan
restive peak
# silver mantle FOUND IT!

Think you’re missing the sarcasm of that by the way, weird to use me as an example; you were being a dumbass that day

rigid stirrup
#

That being said eb really is tough. Did a 27 tyran of it last week and only timed it by a few seconds. I think 1 death throughout the whole run to

modest condor
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raid is just a way to get gear for m+ which is the real endgame

umbral galleon
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true

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first take i agree with sil

oblique trail
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m+ is just a way to get gear for raid which is the real endgame

umbral galleon
#

in a century

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now i feel i betrayed myself

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so i disagree now

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sil ur wrong

left perch
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PvP is the real content. Source: they get better mounts and rewards than m+ and raid.

tardy lark
fiery harbor
#

wow these numbers are disgustingly low, at least they were. No wonder it felt like no one got it

clever path
ebon junco
fast mural
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just kill mythic fyrakk 7 times and its guaranteed

dapper goblet
#

let it be known xan got it at 1.95% and still called it bad

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(22k sim increase 50mil damage in keys)

tardy lark
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Hate that guy

dire badge
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Hate that guy

dapper goblet
#

bean hating him

gilded pawn
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obviously its garuanteed at 14th week

fast mural
#

been hating it once it was announced to be a thing

gilded pawn
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but you are literally at 50/50 at 13th week

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for the new rates

fiery harbor
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the new ones should have been like that from the start

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the old ones i think are ridiculously low

dire badge
#

been 50/50 the whole tier bucko

fast mural
gilded pawn
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sorry

dire badge
#

there’s a crazy way to make item acquisition not omega cringe

gilded pawn
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its 84% at week 13

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it was 67%

dire badge
#

they’ve even done it before

gilded pawn
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its still shit

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but not that shit

fast mural
#

how many weeks is this tier supposed to be ?

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like are there gonna be people who get absolutly shafted and wont get it before fated

fiery harbor
#

a season is like 20 weeks or so no?

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ideally less

restive peak
#

Surely this means I get it next week on mythic rekill right guys 😒

indigo quarry
umbral galleon
#

we seen the charts but even when we hit the 14th kill we'll still doubt ourselves

loud nebula
#

Question guys what gem type should I focus on, I never played a spec where the resource websites are almost all different in the information presented.

oblique trail
deft thicket
#

The embers we have used till now and according to the buffs if bad luck protection, does this buff apply to the already used embers?

limber swan
#

ok roger that benzai I will do it

oblique trail
#

🫡

gentle terrace
dapper goblet
#

insert hashinshin clip jax vs fiora

buoyant salmon
#

I LOVE HASHINSHIN

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

sour frigate
buoyant salmon
#

idk guys i heard the legendary is dogshit who cares if the chance to get it is higher if its shit

sour frigate
#

u sniped him?

red yew
deft thicket
sullen dove
lapis lion
#

i cant fucking believe these numbers lmao

bitter palm
lapis lion
#

lfr and normal gamers are in absolute shambles though

dapper goblet
#

feel like i'm at 14 kills

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shouldnt i have it

sullen dove
#

its only been avail for the last 12 kills

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also s2 voter voodoo

dapper goblet
#

freeing you delusional freaks from your season 3 chains

sullen dove
#

condemning us to have fun in m+ for the price of being mid as hell in raid

indigo quarry
#

you guys play wow to have fun ?

sullen dove
#

at this point no

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600 pulls into a boss

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its a job

dapper goblet
#

mid in raid if bad

sullen dove
indigo quarry
#

nearly 300 pull on Fyrakk but when i say anything about it i'm weak mentaly

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after nerf its highly illegal to not finish it

sullen dove
#

id take 300 pulls on fyrakk...

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over what we're going thru rn...

indigo quarry
#

Tindral is just too much for most player

sullen dove
#

ya...

dapper goblet
#

so swordish worrying about next season when he aint even cleared this season...

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smh my head

calm mantle
#

23 rise overtimed by 5 seconds :C

sinful spoke
#

that first phase is pure aids

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and then intermission

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intermission prog by far the least fun i had in this game

oblique trail
#

Intermission is literally just people figuring out how to use their brainer and soak the right orbs at the right place

sinful spoke
#

exactly

silver mantle
#

I wanna go back to mythic sark progress

oblique trail
#

Before accounting for some people having 2 big WA packs at the same time instead of just 1 =)

sinful spoke
#

like prenerf tindral seeds

sinful spoke
silver mantle
#

never happened to me

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idk what you're talking about

calm mantle
calm mantle
#

Shit game imagine not doing the buff with the maint

sullen dove
bitter palm
#

prog isnt over

sullen dove
#

neither is mine

bitter palm
#

got 10% more

sullen dove
#

critcake ...

indigo quarry
#

funny shit is that i killed Jailer in less pull

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only 197

hasty path
oblique trail
#

Halondrus and Anduin got destroyed

hasty path
#

Also fyrakk took just under 300 pulls for us

oblique trail
#

Jailer also kinda gutted but not nearly as much

hasty path
#

But the first 100 or so felt awful

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We struggled hard with aflame pre-nerf

indigo quarry
#

my guild was close to kill jailer before the nerf

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the nerf just made it so easy it was kinda sad

hasty path
#

Ah yeah

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I think the fyrakk and Tindral nerfs were very needed

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And evidently tindral needs further nerfs

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For the lower end CE guilds

oblique trail
#

What could they really nerf on Tindral to make it somewhat reasonable

tardy lark
#

Given that people manage to have flying be a barrier on that fight

hasty path
#

Beams

tardy lark
#

i dont think theres much they can nerf anymore

oblique trail
#

I don't think beams is the issue lol

hasty path
#

My old SL guild/casual guild is on tindral right now

humble plover
#

That a lot of mages

hasty path
#

They’re somehow struggling with beams and seeds mostly

oblique trail
#

We had rather few wipes to seeds post nerf

tardy lark
#

could give more leeway on the dispel part

hasty path
#

Same we had like 2

tardy lark
#

but thats about it

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i mean if you fuck up 12 seeds in 5 seconds you shouldnt be killing the boss either way

oblique trail
#

Yeah maybe lower duration on the debuff you get

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If anything

tardy lark
#

maybe im cold and cynical

humble plover
#

Yeah id guess nerf to dispell or mushroom damage. Prevent the single mess up wipe

indigo quarry
#

if you cant dodge beam

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git gud

unreal crane
#

"we've increased the drop rates of legendary" (13 weeks now) sadgers

calm mantle
#

I did my kill at reset before the buff tho so I'm sad and salty.

south kayak
#

is this it

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🤝

calm mantle
#

get outta here

calm pebble
#

cause bracers > pants right?

#

m+ only

silver mantle
south kayak
#

didn't feel lucky to take this long but it is what it is

silver mantle
#

Nah, be proud man. You got it.

south kayak
#

Now to do this questline

silver mantle
#

2 more weeks for me,

south kayak
#

I hope youget it next week

hasty path
south kayak
#

yesn't

bleak robin
#

are weapon upgrades cheaper if i swap to arms spec?

#

ifi have a 476 one hand and want to upgrade the other

dire vigil
#

I bought all my mats to try to beat the mad rush once everyone reads that article

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Total cost under 200k gold, the lowest I’ve heard, so I feel kinda lucky in that regard

oblique trail
#

I paid 165k~ total including the awakened elements for the sophic quest a week ago

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Although 200k all things considered isn't bad

dire vigil
#

Yeah, last week was probably THE time to buy everything

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Because attrition really was setting in last week

bleak robin
#

so if its a new alt do i have same chance of legendary as people who have been killing it each week?

oblique trail
#

No

bleak robin
#

got ya dont level a dk lol

south kayak
#

you don't hae the same chance but you can get lucky

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not having anyone to assist me for shadowed dreamleaf

novel field
#

When simming multi-target for fury do you do patchwork with 5 bosses 3mins?

hasty path
#

Why would you do that in particular

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In what current context are you fighting 5 targets for 3 minutes

novel field
#

Fair point

hard relic
hasty path
novel field
#

What do you usually put for multitarget then? do you do the dungeon slice or keep it on multiple patchwerk bosses 😛

gilded pawn
#

she fights 5 targets for much longer than 3 minutes

young swan
#

personally just dont sim for multi-target

south kayak
#

does this help a lot?

gilded pawn
#

you know what im talking about

hasty path
#

Maybe 1min

oblique trail
#

Per buff you get

novel field
#

Okay thank you 😄

young swan
#

but if you do you just have to understand theres gonna be biases for and against certain trinkets for any given fight time

hasty path
#

But usually I just sim patchwerk 1t

south kayak
oblique trail
#

It's still 50% increased gain

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Because you can use it on yourself

south kayak
#

wtf i can?

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says im not in my party

bleak robin
#

sophic devotion on both weps?

south kayak
#

xd

young swan
#

more often than not it'll have you use double wafting

eternal sundial
#

good gear uses wafting but like

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just sim

young swan
#

but its character dependent

eternal sundial
#

try earthen writ

young swan
#

^

eternal sundial
#

frozen one too

oblique trail
#

Very likely to have people there with spare leafs

oblique trail
#

you

warm crag
#

ouch

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up down right left up

oblique trail
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you're so pixelated

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consider getting some higher resolution

eternal sundial
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wonderful duo

silver mantle
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What do you have to say for yourself?

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you non-loser

warm crag
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i will obliterate you

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xan get in the creek

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super earth depends on you

young swan
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no dollary doos

south kayak
hasty path
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THE CREEK IS A DIVERSION

clever path
young swan
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quest

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worlds even

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the mmo

summer quail
young swan
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yeah dude

summer quail
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adventure quest,mechquest. those games owned

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dragonfable

young swan
oblique trail
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Ken Kaneki ass

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Least edgy adventure quest char

young swan
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i just made my guy look cool...

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i have other sets..

south kayak
young swan
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my guy is very strong

bitter palm
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edgy

south kayak
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Hey

dire badge
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Can is 11 years old don’t bully him

bitter palm
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"lego is bad" - xantaga stormforged of the skyhold discord

south kayak
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Aks dropao

bitter palm
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ez

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superbloom time 💀

south kayak
south kayak
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I’m not looking forward to that

young swan
south kayak
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I feel like I’m having deja Vu

south kayak
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So warrior isn’t bad?

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Didn’t get buffed three times

young swan
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warrior is bad

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lego is bad

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game is bad

young swan
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play something else

south kayak
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Ok

oblique trail
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Yeah I'm still playing BG3

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better game

subtle lagoon
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Another ember pog

oblique trail
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Would be playing epoch if the servers weren't cringe

dire badge
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all my games have server issues

south kayak
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I don’t like these kind of games

dire badge
south kayak
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BG3

oblique trail
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You're missing out

south kayak
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I tried to play it

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Didn’t find it fun

dire badge
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It’s so good

south kayak
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It seems confusing and overwhelming

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I’ve never played a game like that

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These turn based pause games are not for me

dire badge
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It’s not as bad as you think

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But to each their own

south kayak
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I’m gonna give it another chance

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Don’t think I gave it a decent chance

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Any of you play ghostrunner

subtle lagoon
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FFVII Remake is turn based combat updated and done right

south kayak
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I’m playing the second one rn, doesn’t seem as hard as the first one

south kayak
dire badge
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Negatory little over an hiur

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Hour

south kayak
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Epoch ?

dire badge
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Nah I’ll have stuff to do prob later tonight

south kayak
dawn pivot
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how to use leggy axe

oblique trail
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While enraged before or after your CDs are over

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Easiest is after your CDs are over, but depends whether or not using before or after will make you miss a cast on a short fight, or misalign it with a point later in the fight where you want it

south kayak
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I wonder if you wanna use it with iftk for arms

heavy folio
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does enrage affect items at all?

oblique trail
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no

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But since the channel is hasted, Enrage makes it faster

south kayak
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It affects the axe only

oblique trail
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The damage bonus does not affect anything

south kayak
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Legion…

dawn pivot
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can I precast it on pull?

south kayak
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How can you precast it

oblique trail
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Sure but I don't see why you would

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Do it on Fyrakk and you'll see yourself risk getting 1tapped

heavy folio
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on tindral, charge OF, rampage and then axxe?

oblique trail
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Use it during roots on Tindral