fury

[sullen dove]

u need 50 total

and tethers are way easier to get when the proc 3 half the time

tho tbf you can get some nasty leaf drops with only a few helpers

[indigo quarry]

quest is so shit people are brain afk doing it

[sullen dove]

yea

the only actual involved part of it tho is just making sure u get purple bag in superbloom

rest is just brain afk hit 1 button every so often

[rich loom]

when analzing warcraftlogs for m+ runs is the best metric to look at points usually?

[modest condor]

i got mine 2 weeks ago

[tardy lark]

m+ logs are useless as a performance metric

or rather, mostly useless

[modest condor]

you cant treat m+ logs the same as you do raid logs

[hollow quiver]

how do you use the leaf item you loot during superbloom for leg quest? It doesn't work when I try to use it on someone

[modest condor]

you cant do the quest twice

[hollow quiver]

?

[modest condor]

so if it tells you you cant use it it means that person already did the quest

[hollow quiver]

Yeah i don't want to

[young swan]

yes that goes for everyone

if they have completed it once they cant do it again

u have to find someone who hasnt yet completed it

[warm crag]

on that character

alts are fair game

[sleek knoll]

i meant 41 im raging over the lack of elites because 452 ilvl try hards are farming legendary prereqs

[sudden tusk]

really not sure why they didnt make the quest repeatable

for the tattered leaf

[sleek knoll]

do your best to stay out of combat until the final boss appears to tether to her idk if you can though idk if shes condisered an "elite" for the quest

[snow edge]

The elite part is the easiest part

Just join a raid group and do the mini events; takes about 2 - 3 events

[hollow quiver]

no i was asking for the dreamleaf quest not the rares one

tihs one I soloed it in wm on all the rares are here it's easy

[snow edge]

Right, well silm answered that I guess

[umbral galleon]

ugh

i had a mention here

but can't find it anyhow

if someone wants to speak i'm online rn

i wish sil was on during the morning so he could disagree with me

[barren dagger]

there a mentions search function

[warm crag]

click this button

[umbral galleon]

yeah

i know guys

still

what i said remains

[indigo quarry]

you made me do it

i will do it again

[umbral galleon]

do it again.

[serene kraken]

Should be illegal to have 12+ kills and no axe

[eternal sundial]

go to jail

[umbral galleon]

lol

[warm crag]

back me up in malevelon creek

it's hell on earth out here

[umbral galleon]

lego is overrated boys dw about it just play 2 toons, a meta class and a warrior

easy game

seen a lot of warriors with legos doing shit damage, what matters is how you play it

if u also need motivation

check top rankings

a lot of rank 1s w/o legos

idk if they're there anymore

but on top 10 fs

[indigo quarry]

maybe i should game that

[clever path]

👀loboz rank 1s

[rare blaze]

yo are we supposed to use the legendary after charge or after avatar wares off?

[clever path]

Pins

[warm crag]

loboz king king 👑

[frozen plaza]

Fury or Arms for BRH?

Geared and can play both, but haven't done too much comparison yet

[olive wraith]

Depends what other dps you’re with

[frozen plaza]

Mage and dk

[olive wraith]

I’m not too familiar with dk aoe burst

But the longer the trash lives the better arms is

[frozen plaza]

I can't imagine its going to last a LOOONG time, 3.4k rio players on a 25

we all 388

[olive wraith]

Probably depends a bit on pulls too

Arms is better for higher count pulls

[eternal sundial]

its a 25 it doesnt matter lol

play what u enjoy more

[frozen plaza]

lmfao thought the same

Fury more forgiving on smaller pulls or mistakes

so will just play that

[clever path]

388 yall hella undergeared

[eternal sundial]

fr

[lavish grove]

[sleek parrot]

is lariat best embelishement with 7 sockets and is dungeon slice good for simming for m+?

[clever path]

For arms yes

For fury dunno

And ive heard dslice sucks

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/WczYJBV.png
first time i raided mythic on my brown man this tier

did okay :3

[clever path]

I thought you left and werent coming back

[clever belfry]

untrue

[sullen dove]

bro folded

[cosmic flax]

Do we wait all the way until avatar falls off to use leggo?

[frozen plaza]

Not the best for fury, but we move

[acoustic furnace]

Ideally yes because the axe isn't buffed by Avatar. So using the axe while Avatar is up is wasting globals that WOULD be buffed.

[cosmic flax]

Tyvm I thought so, wanted to confirm

[young swan]

really doesnt matter much anymore since they hasted the channel

before it was hasted it was like a 0.1% in either direction

just use it when it makes the most sense for you/your kill times

[acoustic furnace]

Nah we gotta min max the fun away

if ain't perfect it sucks

[young swan]

i would just send it after you've used ur empowered bt stacks

not much else matters

dont wanna use it in spear and you dont want to use it when you could be using giga amped BB's

[acoustic furnace]

Big thing though: Don't use it if being rooted will kill you

I feel like that's the most important thing esp in M+

[frozen plaza]

Is it same with Fury, trust sims more than stat prio?

Telling me to lost 1.1k vers for 1.2k crit

[modest condor]

that's the same for every spec

[frozen plaza]

Okay, so even if stat prio is now just oddballing, still go if sims higher?

[brittle crow]

stat prio is ilvl > rest

then u sim from there

[frozen plaza]

Ahhh okay cool ty

Just looks so odd now rofl

[meager void]

For it to "look odd" you would require a measure of "look right".

[frozen plaza]

I spose - i usually go off wowheads order, so i'm expecting vers to be above haste and crit

[meager void]

thats not how to read that order

that order means what would generally add more dps at equal quantities

not how big each stat should be

[frozen plaza]

Damn, wll til

[brittle crow]

so w/ the restored dreamleaf
how do i get someone else to put it on ME

or is that not how it works

[frozen plaza]

Thankyou!

[umbral galleon]

just arrived

sim it

[frozen plaza]

They just use the item on you after completing the shared quest

[steep fable]

Since it specifically says that the legendary "does not benefit from other class-specific buffs like Recklessness or Avatar" does that mean we open with:
charge -> fyr'alath -> pot -> normal opener stuff
Or does the leggo benefit from pot? So we still pre-pot?

[brittle crow]

but whos they nobody else i know is farming lego

[meager void]

but it does help to generally know that order to avoid simming useless stuff like ring enchants

[umbral galleon]

bruh i came back a month and a half ago i got 7 fyrakk kills

[meager void]

I mean, you could sim all 4 enchant variations but just going mastery is fine and the difference is minimal

[frozen plaza]

You'd usually invite a guildie or friend into a party, use tattered dreamleaf on them - they'll get a quest

[umbral galleon]

thats who

[brittle crow]

but the dreamleaf is for wielders of fyr'alath it says

[umbral galleon]

just finished swimming, will take a shot of vodka and smoke a pipe. time to raid

see you later weaklings

[frozen plaza]

yeah, the person who finishes the quest will get the dreamleaf to use on you after they compelte the superbloom shared quest you gave them using the tattered dreamleaf

[brittle crow]

its me, i have the quest

[frozen plaza]

You have a green tattered dreamleaf from doing the superbloom right?

Pm me

[olive pine]

yo guys, is it normal to do less dps than tank when i go into a pull with only odyns?

[woven swan]

how many lesser embers can you get per week?

[modest condor]

depends on the pull size and what tank

[olive pine]

for example i was in 26 everbloom and did less dps than tank cause i only had odyns up and he did a pretty big pull

[modest condor]

but yes that's possible

[olive pine]

like 2 sets of the plant thingys and a 3 casters ish

[olive pine]

k just checkin cause im insecure about my damage sometimes as fury

[modest condor]

dh can do like 800k-1mil sustain dps on certain pulls

[olive pine]

yeh i did 366k dps overall so was around 35k behind the shaman and rogue who did 400k'ish so if i get leggo and augury i can hopefully close that gap

[mossy fox]

i lose to vdh tank on some pulls

shouldnt happen too often though

[olive pine]

yeh it was a dh tank too

[hard widget]

I bet a legendary would fix that @mossy fox kekw

[frozen plaza]

🥶

[hard widget]

I dont have it either so im allowed to joke about it

[frozen plaza]

Totally valid in that case

Possibly the buffed drop chance gives hope

[hard widget]

I've heared from trustworthy sources that a wowhead post will arive relatively soon with good news on the legendary luck

[modest condor]

i lost motivation to play before i got the legendary and it didnt come back after getting it

[hard widget]

So lets pray that its true

[modest condor]

im still like 3.4k io

[hard widget]

Its because we didnt make the full warrior team @modest condor

[modest condor]

true

[sudden tusk]

still cant beleive its been like 4 months and some people still dont have it

i think its actually made the game far more negative then positive

[hard widget]

Bad luck protection is fine, but make a deadline on when people should be able to get it

This is ridiculous

[snow edge]

Yeh I don't think a single person would argue the system was well designed

[frozen plaza]

Was also feeling this, easier to just give-up trying as would be end of season before you get it

[hard widget]

I mean everyone that got it already just has a significant advantage over the people that dont

And especially focussed on m+ with only certain weeks being "playable" because affixes just make some things unbearable

Bolstering fortified this week, i mean gl pushing 😂

[umbral galleon]

sil my hate towards you is playful but let me say this. one less bitch on the streets

i just remember u from BFA discussions

where u would always be the first to disagree and tell why i am wrong

[dire vigil]

I was too in a 25 DHT we timed last week, feels like shit!

[umbral galleon]

i still have fond memories of your disagreements

[mossy fox]

wow

[dire vigil]

It would be better to run 2 VDH in the MDI than to run a dps warrior

[umbral galleon]

havent watched

did they run a warrior?

[sudden tusk]

tbh i kinda wonder

[dire vigil]

I think Dawgs did in a fall. Fury, other than that, no

[sudden tusk]

if its possible to run double vdh and let one just solo part of the dungeon while you clear the other part

and if that owuld be faster

or throw like a rogue with them

[dire vigil]

4 VDH + Resto Shaman for lust is the real meta

[young swan]

date night ran a fury warrior as a meme

pretty sure it was date night

[dire vigil]

I guess I have completely cooled on S3 warrior in m+.. ready for S2 set again

In raid I do find it fun, but I felt that S2 was effective in ST, as well

[young swan]

u can feel that

but it is verifiably false

[dire vigil]

Which part?

[young swan]

that s2 was effective in st

fury was literally the worst st spec in the game

[sudden tusk]

S3 is far better in ST

S2 just feels better to play

[dire vigil]

Oh, was it in the first half of 10.1? I took a break before aug even came out

[sudden tusk]

but i guess we will get propped up by legendary + ashkandur

unless arms blows us out of the water

[young swan]

thats actually when our st was decent

the latter half of the patch is when we dropped off a cliff

[dire vigil]

Yeah, ok makes sense. That was my only experience with it

[remote flower]

ok, I am hitting my buttons in the right rotation
I am making sure rampage is always slammed so I don't cap my rage
I have an addon to help remind me of my rotation

but still, I can't prase higher than green (if I'm lucky) and wow analyzer is telling me that I am either hitting whirlwind too much or not enough.
I'm pulling my hair out because I am doing good dps but I can't get people to see past that

[dire vigil]

Gotcha. I didn’t play it at that time so I didn’t know

S4 is an m+ season anyway

I’m just gonna spam for puzzle box and keep current augury until I get a S4 augury and have fun pushing keys

[bitter palm]

ngl

prob gonna happen

unless fury gets buffed

jugg with cleave no cdr

is gonna pump

so hard

[young swan]

i dont think it will out damage am/rav fury in mythical plus

[bitter palm]

hard to tell i wish they were close so i can just play both

fury fell off later

because of numerous aura buffs

warriors dodged

unlike other classes

[hard widget]

Arms will most definitely win over fury in m+

[olive wraith]

Rampage isn’t our highest prio ability. If you want clearer instruction I suggest logging and posting #449510248579858432

[mossy fox]

I'm not too sure arms cleave spam build will be a thing, dreadnaught carries pretty hard after the buffs

[bitter palm]

yep

jugg 1 bb point

the other point into cleave

or just raw jugg

[hard widget]

Can run without reaping

[bitter palm]

idk i think cleave will be worth taking

[sudden tusk]

thers so many special items next season

[bitter palm]

just no reaping swings

[sudden tusk]

double vualt rings

are gonna be crazy

[bitter palm]

fury does have tricks

asscandy in the offhand is pretty big

for st

[hard widget]

Cleave also got buffed recently not to forget

[bitter palm]

yeah but ms got like 7 aura buffs since s1

[dire vigil]

What is an aura buff?

[bitter palm]

% dmg increase

[dire vigil]

Oh

Ok

Thanks

[bitter palm]

i mean technically aura buff

is when you buff all damage done by a spec

by X %

[dire vigil]

Got it

[bitter palm]

but people often refer to % buffs as aura buffs

[remote flower]

Wowanalyzer pretty much says I am missing too many rampages

[olive wraith]

I haven’t personally used wowanalyzer so idk how good it is

But posting a log is def the right play for improvement

The only time you ramp>bb is if you’re not enraged

Which is such a low probability

[bitter palm]

i mean

downtime on boss

if u dont hold ramp

larodar being the most obvious one

i forgot to hold ramp once

he charged

and i lost like

4 seconds

autoattacks kept missing

bt didnt enrage

[olive wraith]

I’m talking in general since we don’t have a whole lot of context

[mossy fox]

doesnt wowanalyzer also say very clearly our specs arent supported

[olive wraith]

But ya it does happen

[hard widget]

Yes wowanalyzer big nono

[bitter palm]

how would u even track how many casts u need

it depends on so many things

haste

rage gen etc

[olive wraith]

Long story short. Post a log

[bitter palm]

yep

[modest condor]

wowanalyzer basically just does
if rage > 80 and ability =/= rampage then rampage wasted

[bitter palm]

so it isnt optimized for ra

[olive wraith]

Ouch

[modest condor]

it isnt optimsed for anything

[olive wraith]

That probably works for t30

[modest condor]

idk if it's been updated since last expansion

[modest condor]

and even then it was outdated af

[bitter palm]

i mean with am u just send

[modest condor]

wowanalyzer has never been good for dps warrior specs

[bitter palm]

especially with t30

[clever path]

Facts haha, wowanalyzer doesn't even support 10.2.5 fury ?

[modest condor]

during all the patches ive played wowanalyzer has never worked for us

[bitter palm]

doesnt support fury at all

well it does partially

whatever that means

[clever path]

That sucks. I was really intrigued by this wowanalyzer 😦

[left perch]

It’s best feature is pointing out you forgot to enchant your new bracers

[plush flower]

What is the opener for mythic smolderon?

[olive wraith]

Send everything at once

[forest owl]

smoldy opener=pop all dat shit

[olive wraith]

Crit has a vid

[mossy fox]

reck charge ramp ava spear bb ramp of

i think

i just go autopilot, i dont remember this stuff

[modest condor]

that's my opener as well

[mossy fox]

must be good then, my brain works

[modest condor]

but what if i copied my opener from you

[mossy fox]

oh shit

but you remember it

i executed it

[modest condor]

no you dont execute during opener

silly critcake

[mossy fox]

you got me there

just like fyrakk got me with his greater ember

i gotta stop thinking about it

[modest condor]

extra meaning to that emote

[mossy fox]

[bitter palm]

its wild to me

that u still dont have it

even biz got it

[mossy fox]

tbf im not the only one

[bitter palm]

gucci didnt get it either right

[mossy fox]

sarri has it on 1 of his 4 warriors only

archi doesnt have it either

[bitter palm]

did lincc get it

[mossy fox]

think no

[bitter palm]

[brittle crow]

doing this superbloom w/ helldivers in the background since i dont wanna get off

im at a solid THREE frames per sec

[final birch]

on ret yes

[warm crag]

powerful

[final birch]

so its not like not at all

[warm crag]

the queue is only roughly 2 minutes of trying tho

[mossy fox]

is helldivers that good

[warm crag]

crit

imma be real with you

we're losing on all fronts

we need you in malevelon creek

[mossy fox]

i saw bad overall ratings, but i heard their servers are struggling to keep up

[warm crag]

oh yeah ratings are literally just cause you can't get into the game sometimes

[mossy fox]

i dont understand the reference but ok omw

[warm crag]

the gameplay is unironically superb

[mossy fox]

yeah i figured as much

[bitter palm]

clueless people

[warm crag]

ive not played a game that evokes as much feeling of "what the fuck is going on" as helldivers

[bitter palm]

fix your servers!!!

relax bro they are like

5 devs

working 29 hours a day

[mossy fox]

i'm kinda just waiting for ff7rebirth now

out next week and i got a ps5 ready for that

[warm crag]

give helldivers a shot before that

trust

[mossy fox]

i'm enjoying swinging around in spiderman

[warm crag]

fair

[mossy fox]

takes me back to ps2 spiderman 2

good times

[marble stratus]

helldivers 2 is just the movie Starship Troopers

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[covert blaze]

No shot I posted the gif before reading that

[marble stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMTz9nIUkGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K--K5nQiWgg

[warm crag]

we're unironically losing every planet that is currently contested though

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-paul-verhoeven-robert-heinlein-buenos-aires-kill-them-all-gif-23642456

Extremely personal gif

[brittle crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126903788150735000/1209970842067411017/image.png?ex=65e8dc28&is=65d66728&hm=a466a05a68bfa38eb367f5551c36b4b61136e9f3bacb0f71f1116db2fbed5a87&

its so over

[warm crag]

keep up the fight

[bitter palm]

anyone here using iems instead of headsets

[brittle crow]

all my friends are at work rn 🥹

[warm crag]

quickplay works

[brittle crow]

im scared to play solo

but randos are inbred and not in the cool way

[warm crag]

can't even contest the other robot planet cause it has the researcher rescue mission lmao

[brittle crow]

why cant u contest that

defense campaign?

[warm crag]

ye

the researcher rescue mission just isnt doable above difficulty like 2 or 3

[brittle crow]

imma be real im only lvl 6 so i dont have a grasp on all the system mechanics yet

lmao skill issue

[warm crag]

my brother in christ i want to see you try to deal with 2 tanks and 20 rocket troopers per minute

[brittle crow]

ill be ok

[warm crag]

+20 chainsaw ppl chasing you and like 20 rocket troopers ontop of that

[brittle crow]

can randos handle this

[warm crag]

no one can

[brittle crow]

skill issue?

[rain light]

Hello guys,Which of these trinkets is the best for AOE in Mythic+?

[warm crag]

augury might

[brittle crow]

but augury goated

[bitter palm]

might + augury/ember

augury is more dmg

[muted star]

we dont even know what ilvl they are so..

[bitter palm]

ember is vers statstick

which is always good

[covert blaze]

Might + augury

[brittle crow]

damn wtf the dreamleaf buff wears off

SAD

[young swan]

it doesnt

[covert blaze]

No

[young swan]

you just need the person who buffed u in the party

for it to be active

[brittle crow]

thats not a very simple task

[rain light]

Thank you all for answering me ❤️
Do you think it is better to use Ember / might, because this nerf weakens this trinket a lot and deals less damageDone in M+...

[young swan]

that "nerf" happened ages ago and was a net neutral change

just made augury more consistent

[slim coral]

I think ember is better imo esp in 30s

[covert blaze]

Yeah that wasn't a nerf

[slim coral]

Ok my name has never been an issue but on fyrakk it’s so troll

[covert blaze]

I would just run might augury unless you are doing very high keys and "need" ember

[slim coral]

“Don’t move Blaze” or anytime Blaze is mentioned it’s so troll

[covert blaze]

[slim coral]

Why’d they have to name a mechanic after me

[left perch]

can you not hear the L

[bitter palm]

at equal ilvl

[left perch]

or

[bitter palm]

ember owns augury

so hard

[covert blaze]

-blaze in 5
-wtf do I need to do in 5

[bitter palm]

at 496 augury is not replacable

unless u need the survivability (u wont until 33s)

[slim coral]

Do you know what my ign is?

https://raider.io/characters/us/hyjal/Blazémore

[left perch]

no I was just shit posting sry

[slim coral]

Literally has Blaze in it

And people call me Blaze for short

[rain light]

God bless u 🫂 🤝

[rain light]

🥂

[bitter palm]

blazeless

[scarlet swift]

"buffed"

[slim coral]

Yes exactly

[slim coral]

That’s my alt https://raider.io/characters/us/stormrage/Blazeless

[bitter palm]

[covert blaze]

I had something similar happen when I was in a guild with another player and they called him Zae which was the short version of their ign

[brittle crow]

whats invalid target mean when i try to tattered leaf someone

[oblique trail]

They've already done the quest, or have it

[brittle crow]

so i need to leaf someone unique every time

so like, nobody here lol

[oblique trail]

Basically

[brittle crow]

https://i.imgur.com/dIvgqQ5.png

i disagree blizz

[warm crag]

askers

@oblique trail i need you in the creek

[tawny slate]

for the fyralath quest

i need to do superbloom for the dreamleaf?

[oblique trail]

sorry the enemy has restricted my access to join the fight

[oblique trail]

yes

[tawny slate]

but how do i get the shadowed leaf?

do i loot something?

[oblique trail]

You loot them in the bags

[covert blaze]

I'm gonna say this the next time I get banned on league

[tawny slate]

ah okay, the last bag right?

[oblique trail]

All of the bags

And from the boss at the end

[oblique trail]

This means there was a first and presumably second time

[covert blaze]

[tawny slate]

and its guaranteed to have 200 at the end? o.O

[oblique trail]

no

You have to repeatedly do Superblooms until you get 200

[tawny slate]

but isnt that 1 time a week?

[oblique trail]

The amount of times you do it depends on the amount of tattered dreamleaf questreward buffs you've been given to you. Each of the buffs give you 50% increase

It's not

You can repeat it every hour

[bitter palm]

hold

the weekly chest

[covert blaze]

I only got perma'd once tho and it was because I got systematically reported by premades for months

[warm crag]

you say this yet you have not begged me to join the fight

[bitter palm]

until u have 250%

then open it

[brittle crow]

ur implying having people to help

not happening

[tawny slate]

i opened 2 of them

blue and green

oh weekly box nvm

[bitter palm]

weekly box fucks

u get so much

[tawny slate]

alright

[bitter palm]

(i opened at 50%)

[brittle crow]

i also opened at 50% xd

[warm crag]

why havent you ⬆️ ⬇️ ➡️ ⬅️ ⬆️

[brittle crow]

im just asking thru superblooms while i watch stuff in the background

so the buff isnt worth the hassle

[oblique trail]

⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

[warm crag]

i dont remember the hellbomb code

[lucid owl]

would it be worth tossing on corrupting rage for fyraak? ive been using tepid verse all tier but i imagine corrupting rage gives a good upgrade

[warm crag]

are you progging or reclearing

[lucid owl]

progging

[warm crag]

stick to tepid

[modest condor]

⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🇧 🇦

lmao why did it turn into the flag

[warm crag]

how do i input the bolivian flag on my keyboard

[bitter palm]

BOSNIAAAAAAAAA

[warm crag]

is that bosnia

oops

[bitter palm]

[agile ember]

Best mastery % to aim for?

[slim coral]

Stick to icy pres

if you're a real chad

[agile ember]

I don’t even understand that insult

[oblique trail]

He's not talking to you

[half cargo]

It’s not an insult

[oblique trail]

For you, there is no "best %" to aim for

Just sim yourself in top gear on raidbots, and use what it says

Your mastery % will differ based on what gear you have, and what the optimal amount will be for your setup

[half cargo]

Damn, urban dictionary has some wild definitions for chad

TIL

[agile ember]

Okay word thank you @oblique trail

[slim coral]

theres' a class guide out there that says mastery dr is at 76

is this true?

it's not a warrior guide

[oblique trail]

The DR of the stat itself should be the same for every spec, however the % of what your mastery is when you hit that DR will differ based on your spec

[slim coral]

that makes sense our mastery/verse dr must be very high

cuase no matter what gear I use it's wants that shit

[storm rune]

Nah, it's just really good

[tulip swallow]

The DR starts out small, it's not a big deal

[modest condor]

yeah that doesnt really have much to do with DR

[storm rune]

Mastery says hit harder 98% of the time, Vers says hit harder all of the time, a lot of our abilities say "This now has 100% crit" and haste isn't too important for rage gen

[tulip swallow]

if you're stacking like 10k+ of a stat through on use you might notice the DR

[storm rune]

so hit harder it is

[slim coral]

wouldnt you hit a dr though and the sim would want other stats at some point

[modest condor]

you may hit a dr, and the sim may want you to get other stats, but those 2 points are not necessarily the same

[slim coral]

right but what I'm saying is the sim would know if I hit the dr right there for wanting other stats?

[tulip swallow]

Your stats multiply off of each other so you want a little bit of everything even without DR

DR should be automatically accounted for in the the sims though

[edgy widget]

some interesting news comin out in a little bit for all us legendary non-havers

[slim coral]

[valid moon]

what do we macro with fyralath?

[slim coral]

FUCK YES

GIVE ME THAT SHIT

[oblique trail]

nothing

[slim coral]

not having the lego for the push weeks

kind of ruined the tier though

unless we have some giga ones later

[valid moon]

Where does it go in rotation?

[slim coral]

depends

[oblique trail]

Before or after CDs while enraged

[slim coral]

some people use it before

some use it after

[oblique trail]

Although it also depends on the fight you're on, and whether or not using before or after will make you miss timers on a fight

[edgy widget]

Yeah you might as well just quit the game now

[slim coral]

lol no I'm just saying

from a pushing pov

I still want the lego though

[timid forge]

Finally got it !!

[slim coral]

hell yeah gz

[young swan]

change ur name now

[slim coral]

I'm just saying I don't know if there will be another 2 free weeks like we had 3 weeks ago

like this week for example is prety much dead

double fort xD

[sullen dove]

just aoe more

4head

[edgy widget]

yeah, might as well just quit

[fleet sorrel]

next week is the best tyran week

[slim coral]

once I get all my 30s done

[edgy widget]

no point to playing anymore 😦

[slim coral]

I will

[fleet sorrel]

uh huh

[sullen dove]

100% axe drop for everyone next week with blp right

make good use of that tyran week

[dire vigil]

Except it’ll cost 1m gold to make if that’s the case

[slim coral]

I mean unless I find a push group I don't see pugs going past 30

esp in TOTT

and Rise

oh and eb

[next lantern]

Wait, enrage increase Lego dmg aswell?

[sullen dove]

enrage gives u haste to cast on use faster

only interaction

[next lantern]

Oh ok, tought it dipped into mastery aswell, would prolly be too insane

[slim coral]

idk about that

[fleet sorrel]

Don’t think you are getting 30 in many keys even with a group

[slim coral]

for groups prob

[slim coral]

yeah true but I just need 2 more

atleast of the easy ones

[fleet sorrel]

It’s incorp spiteful

[slim coral]

Throne and EB prob wont ever get

[fleet sorrel]

Those aren’t affixes

[slim coral]

pugs cannot do incorp

lmao

[edgy widget]

idk incorp is dummy easy

[sullen dove]

if u think ppl doing 30s arent doing incorp

[slim coral]

Yes I agree

[edgy widget]

especially for Warrior 🙃

[sullen dove]

wild statement

[modest condor]

the 2nd best throne is with a warrior, are we meta?

[fleet sorrel]

So incorp is harder than 30 throne and bloom

[slim coral]

I got the clips

[slim coral]

uh with double rogue yeah

without the double rogue comp it can be rough

[modest condor]

i like how rank 1 is triple rogue and rank 2 is double rogue

[tulip swallow]

just need the perfect spell reflect targeting rng

[slim coral]

cause rogue is op

but for some reason a lot of people don't play it

[fleet sorrel]

idk what week you wanna play on then

Doesn’t get easier than incorp spite

incorp is legit a bonus at times

[slim coral]

well I'm still legoless vil

so

once I get lego it will be a diff convo 🙂

[fleet sorrel]

idk how lego affects whether or not incorp is easy

[sullen dove]

ya lol

[slim coral]

well it effects how high I can do keys

[sullen dove]

psh nah

[slim coral]

or get into them

[sullen dove]

critcake #4 without it

who needs it

[slim coral]

well he has a group so they have more time to fails keys and shit

[sullen dove]

ye

[slim coral]

I get like 1 chacne at a 30 maybe 4 times a week

[fleet sorrel]

it’s not like you need 30s for title

[slim coral]

you mean if they get mind controlled or whatever

[sullen dove]

[slim coral]

yeah sometimes that is nice

[slim coral]

that's true just a goal I would like to achieve

all 30s

[fleet sorrel]

k well it’s not happening lol

[slim coral]

lol won't stop me from trying my best

[fleet sorrel]

Gotta be realistic with goals

[sullen dove]

there isnt even a timed 30 everbloom in the world?

"yeah ill be the only person in the world to get that"

[slim coral]

uh I thought one was timed with the stinger cheese no?

[sullen dove]

idk maybe

or wait

looking at worng page

there are a couple

jk

no 30 fort thrones

only 5 total 30 thrones anyway

[slim coral]

damn sword you're giving me even more motivation

I can conquer the world now lets gooo

[sullen dove]

[fleet sorrel]

[shrewd osprey]

does anyone know if the mats for the axe need to be quality 3 or can it be any quality?

[sullen dove]

any rank

cheapest fine

[shrewd osprey]

ok tyty

[runic violet]

quick non warrior question

what addon should i use for 5 man dungeon?

like... dbm doesn't work there

[oblique trail]

Littlewigs

[runic violet]

does it require bigwigs?

[sullen dove]

there should be a dungeon like... side addon to dbm for dungeons

[oblique trail]

Don't recall but probably

[sullen dove]

idk if its built in

[oblique trail]

Personally I've used BW/LW for multiple expansions now

So never checked if they work independantly

[sullen dove]

like my dbm has <raids> and <dungeons> for example as seperate addons to click on

[runic violet]

hmm

[sullen dove]

not exactly like that but similar

[runic violet]

cuz i have dbm currently

wonder its going to conflict with dbm

[sullen dove]

i guess theyre seperated by expansion

which is a little excessive

but yea

[oblique trail]

LW just does it per season

Unless it just is an all-in-one thing and I just never noticed

[runic violet]

huh...

i guess i have to find dragonflight 5 man dungeon dbm module

[humble plover]

we did it bois

[young swan]

gz!

[mellow crow]

is it possible to cancel cast the leggo?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[mellow crow]

to end early

[oblique trail]

by dying

(or your target dying)

[mellow crow]

ya thats what just happened on tindral beam LMAO

[warm crag]

gz!

no way to cancel the legendary conventionally

[mellow crow]

tuff out here I just figure out how to use it on this fight

got it while we were fyrakk proggin so just yeeted myself into a beam on tindral lmao

[young swan]

first set of roots in p1 is pretty safe

u OF and then immediately axe

should have tons of time

[sullen dove]

i tend to hold like 1 global after of to make sure last couple of hits go on boss

like of rampage axe works well a decent amount of times

[young swan]

yeah pretty much that

[modest condor]

getting that 1.5mil crit on the boss ohh yeah

[sullen dove]

shit feels so good when u see that big number

[mellow crow]

ya thats what I ended up doin, worked well

https://i.imgur.com/bA6GDnh.png

[sudden tusk]

cant wait unitl the post is like

guess what BLP wasnt even working LMAO

[clever path]

i think they forgot to activate it for me

[tulip swallow]

"We decided to give everyone a second drop chance this week"

[clever path]

make it BoA so I can make a ret paladin and get it on my first attempt

[umbral galleon]

i just noticed i hate this tier

4p sucks ass

[trail tendon]

yo, what weapon enchants are we rocking with this tier

[umbral galleon]

wafting devotion

[trail tendon]

double wafting?

[umbral galleon]

yea

[trail tendon]

cool, appreciate u ty ❤️ im dusting my warrior off after not playing him for a few season

[clever path]

Are you a s2 or s3 voter

[slim coral]

I voted season 2

[stark zealot]

https://twitter.com/traphouse_annie/status/1760146240719696074?t=xaUF69txpzfpZMsTAzpPtQ&s=19

annie (@traphouse_annie) on X

did this and he dropped the axe idk maybe rizz diff ?

Twitter · Feb 21, 2024, 3:35 AM

[brittle crow]

i wonder what the drop rate is now

everyone and their dog has it now

[clever path]

no.

[slim coral]

100

[loud patrol]

must be nice to own it

[slim coral]

I woulndt know

[loud patrol]

maybe next week 🙂

[clever path]

Well i voted s3 and i got the lego. Im not saying im just saying.

[charred panther]

the questing begins boiz

[trail tendon]

anyone know what stats catalyzed boots has?

[pallid barn]

Currently just starting tindral prog and do we ever hold cds on the seeds till we’re out so we don’t spawn a treant or always send it and the group should be fine?

[sudden tusk]

high haste mas

[cursive sedge]

guys why most of high io fury warriors are using embers of nullification for keys instead of augury ?

[sullen dove]

cuz living is more important than doing damage

and is still pretty decent damage

[cursive sedge]

okay

[silk wharf]

cause they dont have fyrakk heart.

lol

[cursive sedge]

ragehaert?

[silk wharf]

I dont know its name, vers, aoe fire, shield on use

[cursive sedge]

y rageheart

[silk wharf]

Though using both would be super defensive.

[modest condor]

rageheart is not the alternative to ember/augury

ember gives you constant defensive value, very strong against frequent high damage intake like brh, dht, ad etc.

rageheart would save you against the occasional 1shot that even having more vers wouldnt save you against

like feed the weak from the last boss in dht, or the charge from the third boss in brh

[final birch]

fury is too tanky

to care about rageheart

and well arms is too tanky also

[modest condor]

pretty much

[final birch]

with IP stacking

Last I checked I think I could survive 35 tyra dht 2nd boss as arms with def stance IP stack and SR only

[cursive sedge]

is augury big deal in keys ?

[modest condor]

not particularly

couple of trinkets that are maybe 1% behind at most

[sleek knoll]

being able to queue for pvp battles to do the attunement to Fyralath might be the most broken thing in this game...other than 150 Plate wearers getting Fyralath to drop on Tuesday reset

[sullen dove]

...

wjat

you wait for pvp queues to reset cd?

just go to proving grounds

[sleek knoll]

na you dont die while youre waiting for the BG to start and it auto heals you so you just go in there to do the 10 stacks for the quest

[final birch]

Do it while doing superbloom

Stock up on awakeneds

and do it in the meantime

[muted star]

you can do the healing one in a follower dungeon

[final birch]

Oh you mean different one

nvm

[muted star]

and yeah, the enchanting one you either spam it in proving grounds or do it while doing blooms / frenzy events

[trail tendon]

whats the go to talent build for m+

[sleek knoll]

check the guides resources Faq channel

[trail tendon]

dope

i got a what if question for yall, so say you just rampage, and you have a sudden death proc, do you use your bloodbath first, or the execute

[olive wraith]

Bb is highest prio

[sullen dove]

bb most of the time

pmuch all the time

soemtims i dont even exe lol

[olive wraith]

Ya I drop a lot of SD charges inside of rek

[sleek knoll]

BB first then Rampage then bb again execute is awesome but depending procs and haste you rarely use that during SD procs

[sullen dove]

if youre just like in cds or have a lot of reck uptime youre likely to find yourself bb > ramp > bb > ramp

idk if its ethical to squeeze in the sd proc in there

its prolly fine if u dont overcap

but sometimes feel like i overcap for that

[storm rune]

Generally BB > Exe in damage while Exe > Ramp, but you can't BB without ramping so most of the time you just say fuck it to SD unless you're rage starved

[sleek knoll]

agree exe and slam is rage starving abilities. if you dont have it yet I would DL Hekili to help you out.

[olive wraith]

Ex>ramp only in execute range and if you have AJ talented

[covert blaze]

[storm rune]

Even in exe range with full AJ stacks you're still prio'ing BB, which means prio'ing Ramp

exe just makes your rotation smoother by filling in the gaps with something that isn't slam

[modest condor]

no, with aj you prio exe over ramp

your rotation basically becomes ramp > bb > exe > ramp > bb > exe, filling with bts if exe doesnt get you enough rage to ramp

[covert blaze]

love bts love kpop

[modest condor]

big time socialists

[storm rune]

That doesn't seem right to me, just looking at logs BB is on average over twice the damage of exe over the course of the fight, a trend that continues even once AJ has reached full stacks. Whereas Exe is generally somewhere around 10-20% more damage, ramping up to ~30-40% more damage than Ramp with full AJ stacks

Unless I'm missing something like BB getting wildly skewed numbers from the set bonus

[modest condor]

sims have prioritising exe performing better than prioritising ramp

[storm rune]

my napkin math is saying sims are wrong then

[modest condor]

hmm, who knows better, a guy doing some napkin math or a computer doing tens of thousands of iterations

[storm rune]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[graceful rapids]

The power of the napkin

[covert blaze]

this statement is wild

[gilded pawn]

thats actually the most wild take ive seen today

and its 11:50 pm where i am

[gilded pawn]

a simple explanation would be that the partial loss of BB casts is outweighed by the gain of slamming more execute

if you lose 5 bb casts to get 10 more execute casts its worth

[meager void]

Napkin math requires huge brain to beat simcraft.

And you kinda distrusting @modest condor , which is the dude that first napkin maths before writing the simc prio that checks wether his napkin math is correct or not

See, simc profiles start as napkin math and then become standard once checked thru thousand iterations

[edgy widget]

BB averages higher because of the set bonus

but you don't always have the set bonus

and ultimately as long as you consume all 6 stacks of the set bonus within the 24s of Avatar, it doesn't really matter if you do them every other GCD or every 3rd GCD

[meager void]

Hugest brain has entered the chat.

[storm rune]

So you're saying I need to look into how many set bonus BBs are being amplified and either exclude or normalize their damage to find the real average cast

[edgy widget]

the advantage of keeping Bloodthirst/bath on cooldown is a little more CDR, but once you start getting towards the end of the fight, the likelihood of actually getting an extra OF than you would have anyway becomes increasingly smaller

[storm rune]

do we know any number that would approximate to?

[modest condor]

on the damage done page you have a list of buffs above the damage, you can click on them once to only show damage while the buff is active, or twice to only show damage while the buff is not active

[edgy widget]

So, as you get towards the end of the fight (e.g. the execute phase), the hypothetical loss of not keeping BT/B on cooldown is reduced, and the greater direct damage of Execute pulls ahead

[edgy widget]

you could filter damage done while the Frenzied Bloodthirst buff is not up, but the numbers are pretty straightforward

[modest condor]

here's my damage to nymue while 2set is not active during execute phase http://puu.sh/K1r0s/aa36e44844.png

as you can see execute is doing quite a bit more than bloodbath

[sour frigate]

Give t29

[storm rune]

ah that is so incredibly useful

Okay yeah it's bringing the total average down an enormous amount

[edgy widget]

There's a common sentiment that Fury Execute is weak, but it's really not - it's stronger than Rampage even... it's just not used with great frequency

Funny what 150% increased damage and 100% crit chance will do 😛

[sour frigate]

No room for it this tier

[edgy widget]

there's plenty of room for it, that was the entire topic of conversation

Execute (with AJ) does retain priority in the execute phase

[storm rune]

hahaha, honestly I also forgot about the multiplicative bonuses as well

But it's really eye opening seeing it go from 224k down to 107k

[edgy widget]

yeah the 2p is a huge bonus

and because of how much CDR you get, it has pretty good uptime too

[young swan]

ME

hes talking about me

I think execute sux

thats the second time ive made that exact typo today

[modest condor]

kinda sus

[sour frigate]

Kinda sux

[storm rune]

Anyways thanks for walking me through that

[edgy widget]

np

fwiw, the damage is pretty close - Execute is only a little higher than (unbuffed) Bloodbath

[meager void]

From TSwift's platform, I can only see AJ in discussions now.

[sour frigate]

[edgy widget]

tooltip wise, Bloodbath is actually ahead, ballpark like 90k vs 80k with Viscous Contempt, but then you factor Ashen Juggernaut and extra stuff like Cruel Strikes and the actual damage of Execute pulls ahead (not to mention the higher rage generation, although it's not always a major factor)

[meager void]

Haven't seen brown spear for a couple of weeks now.

[trail tendon]

this is my breakdown for a key, and critiques would be ideal

also, i tried looking in the faq, and i couldnt find the talent builds

[sour frigate]

Hard to criticise an out of context details table

Its perfect

[edgy widget]

there's a whole heap of guides linked
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps

[trail tendon]

the key was an 18 atal'dazar

[eternal sundial]

Ramp too high

[sullen dove]

critique is use another trink aside from serpent idol

[trail tendon]

i dont have another trink atm

[sullen dove]

soon

[eternal sundial]

Rip your roar dam

But that's not in your hands in an 18

[trail tendon]

you said rampage is too high? what do i do to fix that

[left perch]

packs are legally not allowed to live long enough in an 18

[eternal sundial]

It's mainly not using all all bloodbaths

So rampage creeps up to it

[trail tendon]

gotcha

so i gotta make sure im getting more bloodbaths in

idk if im doing something wrong, but sometimes i hit this like dry spot where i have no choice other than slam

that feels dogshit

[eternal sundial]

It is what it is

[trail tendon]

so its a normal thing?

[eternal sundial]

Ye

[trail tendon]

okay well thats good to know

[eternal sundial]

Windfury totem can smoothe it out but that's not realistic in keys

[sullen dove]

dark thoughts...

[sour frigate]

[sullen dove]

600...

[eternal sundial]

I called in tilt and come back for fyrakk or not till next expansion

[flat sapphire]

Did critcake got the legendary yet

[eternal sundial]

Not yet

[flat sapphire]

Next week?

[sullen dove]

kill tomorrow.... surely....

[flat sapphire]

Oh he haven't killed it

[vague copper]

He has on HC

So a shoot on mythic today (i think)

[flat sapphire]

Imagine he don't get it again

[tardy lark]

Trash system

[clever path]

Eait it's not 100% on mythic?

[bleak robin]

Has there been any showcase of furys hero talents for tww mainly slayer?

[clever path]

I thought there's one for group loot always

[tardy lark]

Experience tells me it is not, unfortunately

[clever path]

Oh ok mb

[stuck bison]

I hope we wont carry lego to s4 or at least we ll able to upgrade it. Its on use doesnt make my details goes brrrrrr

[tardy lark]

Although that would bang for mythic sales

[mossy fox]

[sullen dove]

almost def will be upgrading it

[clever path]

Is it trade able or just like heroic

[clever path]

❤️🫂

[sullen dove]

maybe the non-leggo havers news archi was talking about is 100% droprate grouploot mythic

just spend 50mil for guaranteed fyralath

surely

[young swan]

only mountain thane has been previewed

[tardy lark]

Mythic can supposedly drop one group-lootable, but i personally havent had that happen in our kills

[young swan]

it happens

[tardy lark]

Casually dropping a Spectral Tiger for a temporary weapon

[sullen dove]

[clever path]

Imo drop ZG tiger

[tawny slate]

does anyone know whats with the tattered dreamleaf and the invalid target?

[clever path]

Man I'd do things to get that mount

[stuck bison]

DF was such a banger for me untill aug evoker and legendary happened. All thay had to do is maintaning s1 balance and not adding broken shit or rigged casino legendary

[young swan]

first half s2 was peak

[tardy lark]

if target already has done the quest, it cant be applied

[clever path]

Thanks for letting me know 🙂

[tawny slate]

so quest is once per person?

[sullen dove]

yea

a single character can do tattered dreamleaf quest once, and get a single buff

so like when ur in a group of all plate users asking people to trade leaves, it almost means nothing, unless they havent yet gotten the tattered to use on themselves

the main reason for excess tattereds is using them on guildies/friends and their alts to funnel your main with the leggo

[tawny slate]

so its pointless to stack plate people? XD

[sullen dove]

to help buff droprates

its pointless to have plate people asking eachother for buffs

[sullen dove]

yeah i mean them just doing the superbloom for their own leaves doesnt matter

doesnt affect anything

however many plate ppl in a group

just always funny to see ppl ask to trade buffs when its like. not a real thing

[tawny slate]

i mean everybody is just wondering why we cant use that

and says invalid target

[sullen dove]

again if youve done the quest for it already, you cant do it again

tattereds 1 time use per character

[tawny slate]

yea i got it 😄 tyty

[sullen dove]

whether u use one on yourself or someone uses one on you

😄

[tawny slate]

wait i thought u could stack that

im so fried over that quest cus i still havent slept, been doing superbloom 3 or 4 hours now

[clever path]

did they buff fury yet?

[snow edge]

It's basically the end of the season; a buff now (for anyone) would be very weird

[wild mural]

I’m just sad I prolly won’t get CE

[stuck bison]

Same

300 pull deep into mythic tindral

And we didnt even pass to 2nd feathers at 3rd platform

[tardy lark]

Tindral is such rough boss because of personal responsiblity the lower you go down the world ranks

cant just help with out gearing it

[eternal sundial]

We are currently 50/50 on progging or nah

Im feelin nah

[wild mural]

That’s fair

I am applying many guilds

[tardy lark]

For the love of god remember to not compromise on fun if you wanna climb the world ranks

[wild mural]

I’ve mainly been struggling with raiding cause of people making dumb mistakes and causing silly wipes does that get better when you climb

[tardy lark]

It does not, it just gets more egregious when they do

[wild mural]

Oh no

[tardy lark]

https://www.twitch.tv/lissanderz/clip/UgliestSmallCurlewThunBeast-ml4rc7G-RtO8D-FD

world rank 21 btw

or 22

idk

[slim coral]

I like how he flew right at it

[wild mural]

That’s hilarious and really sad

[slim coral]

and doged it

that's pro play

[wild mural]

What a gamer

[tardy lark]

it was so fucking funny

[wild mural]

Avg DH player tho

[tardy lark]

https://www.twitch.tv/aagaardx/clip/FairGracefulOxYee-9D2hDrN_IDxgexxw

my man wallife suiciding

[fathom wolf]

Wish we had one healer remotely aware enough to heal someone standing in a lava pool.

[wild mural]

I missed what happened

[tardy lark]

Walli leaps into a beam

[wild mural]

Ahhhh

I think I did that once

[covert blaze]

so true lmao

[dry holly]

If you use Fyr'alath on pull as you charge, it seems to just go on CD without activating, at least on training dummies. So you have to wait for Charge to connect, I guess. Which you should do any way so that the mark is applied, but still pretty bad.

[sullen dove]

most people also never just… rip leggo first global upon hitting a boss

at the very least rampage to get enraged for haste buff to make it channel faster but most common practice is to use it after cds

[sudden tusk]

rekilling tendril tonight

i think my lego crit 1.5m

from soaking all the marks off the roots and funneling it into the boss

[forest owl]

Do you guys send axe on use at start or after cds?

[tardy lark]

usually after reck ends

you can do it insta as well

[hollow elk]

wish lego would give rage. pressing it even with all cooldowns down and having nothing else to press still feels bad cuz youre not generating any rage

[azure holly]

when using Fyr'alath, do you follow your target?

[tardy lark]

You charge to the target, but stand still after it

[azure holly]

I suppose you still get the damage off?

even if you stay behind like an idiot and swing in the air

or do you actually need the target to be still 🤔

[tardy lark]

Pretty sure you do, but I haven’t had that happen the week I have had it

[stuck bison]

Any tricks and advices to funnel all lego dips into boss ?

[silver mantle]

You probably want to use an aoe ability right as the roots spawn and then use the legendary.

The best advice I can give you is get lucky and loot legendary

[forest owl]

anyone found any good transmog to go with the axe?

[slim coral]

Yeah it’s my copium mog for it to drop

[brittle crow]

jewel of the firelord is an option for helms but armor is severely limited it feels like

our only fiery set is from cata and has 4 pixels total

other than mythic brf but that's not fiery in the same way

[tardy lark]

just mog the axe

[hardy cargo]

#transmog I quite enjoy the mog I just posted in there

[wild mural]

I only use 1 mog now

[hardy cargo]

DN? 🙂

I have 3 I dance between

[wild mural]

T3 only

[slim coral]

Rogue is really op but I feel like it’s slept on

Or not a lot of people can play it

[hardy cargo]

is noxiv still gaming with double outlaw, + fury as dps comp?

[slim coral]

Yeah

But like you don’t see a lot of rogues

Like compared to other meta specs

But probably because it’s hard

[hardy cargo]

probably bc they dont rlly provide group defensive util like fmage does, or vamp embrace

adn then fmage still just provides the prio dmg they bring

[ocean jetty]

can i macro dragons roar to recklessness and avatar?

[hardy cargo]

as the current opener goes, you dont want to macro any of them together

[covert blaze]

I use this

[merry jetty]

whats the site that shows CD usage again?

[covert blaze]

lorrgs.io

[merry jetty]

ty

[covert blaze]

You shouldn't

[hasty path]

Syi isn’t a mogmaxxer

[wild mural]

Real and it’s a full set

[red yew]

Common Syi W

🤝