fury

[eternal sundial]

Surely not that

[chrome plover]

and it's £1 a day

[bitter palm]

bind jump to something else

i have it on tab

[sleek knoll]

weeping for you irl as we speak

[bitter palm]

having 3 inputs on space sucks

hard

[eternal sundial]

Ye i couldnt get it to work in tutorial

[eternal sundial]

I think ill also rebind attack to 1234 ngl

[dire badge]

just use the right space input

[eternal sundial]

Clicking fucks my head

[bitter palm]

idk im used to clicking

[sleek knoll]

anyone playing helldivers ? steam needs to open up more servers or implement an afk kick feature im sick of having to wait to fight for freedom

[bitter palm]

the only game where i dont click to melee

is warframe

[dire badge]

pretty sure they are working on both of those ideas

[south kayak]

how fast is it

[left perch]

wtf clicking to attack

[chrome plover]

it caps out at like 26/27kmph

kinda slow

[oblique trail]

what the fuck is a kilometer

[chrome plover]

tbh im used to mph in england

[bitter palm]

kilomiles per hour

[chrome plover]

so i cant comment

[fast mural]

kilomile is briliant

[chrome plover]

yeehaw

[dire badge]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-meme-approaching-close-coming-gif-27652940

[red yew]

oh god oh fuck

[fast mural]

can a cat be a person ?

[eternal sundial]

Yes

[dire badge]

I respect cats more than people so yeah

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[silver mantle]

Some made-up word from non-free bozos, don't worry about it.

[chrome plover]

https://tenor.com/view/helldiver-helldivers-helldivers2-chestbump-flag-gif-2708234001444907997

[thorny peak]

Ok lads I did alotta dirty things for alotta devious dark gods to get this leggo buff

[fickle bone]

im so pumped gonna be running fyrak in an hour. Not sure if excited or afraid

[fast mural]

dread

[warm crag]

we're losing on all fronts

start fighting

[restive peak]

Kms > mph bruh

[sage smelt]

BLP got a buff this morning, has that been discussed am i late to the party

[silver mantle]

nah, barely anyone talked about it

[gilded pawn]

no one talked about it for sure

[sage smelt]

gotta scroll up i guess rip

[flat river]

do you guys

run raidfinder normal then heroic

or just heroic

for big chance?

[south kayak]

Just heroic

there's no reason to do normal if you can do heroic

[flat river]

ok

[storm rune]

I still don't see how that works unless your chance at the leggo rolls immediately on Tuesday maintenance

[flat river]

@wild mural what do u do

do all difficulties

or

[storm rune]

Otherwise your chance to get a drop of 3 separate instances would be higher than a single instance of the same combined value, no?

[gilded pawn]

what if heroic just rolls 3 dices in the background

as opposed to 1 dice

its really that simple

[wild mural]

what

[gilded pawn]

like yes 3 rolls of 10% is higher than 1 roll of 30%

but they could just roll 3 times in the background

as opposed to 1

[storm rune]

Ronin just blowing my mind over here with simple d&d logic

3d100

[wild mural]

what are u on about and why am I involved

[gilded pawn]

yes exactly

there you go

[storm rune]

Thanks for the perspective

[flat river]

the leggo chance

do u do raidfinder then normal then heroic

or just heroic

[olive wraith]

….

[flat river]

I NEED

[olive wraith]

Do what you want

[flat river]

A SECOND OPINION

[oblique trail]

Bro

Just do HC

[flat river]

IM HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ACCEPTED TO PUG HEROICS ;-;

[olive wraith]

There is a blue post saying highest difficulty is the only thing that matters

[flat river]

ok

[oblique trail]

That doesn't change doing it in an ascending order or not

[south kayak]

giving us a 7 gb patch right at launch to download

[wild mural]

I literally only did hc

[flat river]

ok

[wild mural]

I didnt even clear the raid just fyrakk

[bitter palm]

ofc its the lazy people getting it

[wild mural]

[storm rune]

I ran a pug group last night and had about 100 overall applicants of just paladins and warriors

I try to invite as many warrior brothers as possible but at some point you gotta wait for an enh shammy to show up so you can clown on some fools by stacking your own party, y'know? 😂

[flat river]

ok i got invited

wish me luck

praydge

[lapis lion]

9 axes dropped, embers for me, of course. i am so fucking sick of this shit.

[flat river]

real shit

[sleek knoll]

one of the reasons i have 3 plates classes. 33% chance to get it every week

[lapis lion]

im not interested in playing dk or paladin beyond low keys so i'd never do the quest on them

[sleek knoll]

thats fair. i have no life and work from home. So im pushing as many of my 10 classes as I can to 2k. at 4 so far working on 5th now which got pushed back because legendary craftage

[lapis lion]

same honestly, but i just don't enjoy either class anymore. frost is miserable to play and UH is so unwieldy. ret just aint it for me. the alts i actually play are rogue and monk

[merry jetty]

yay

[meager void]

hello fellow cesspoolers of epeen nonsense

[fast mural]

the worst part is all the people who desperatly want it dont realize how agonizing the quests are gonna be

the pain wont stop once it drops

[clever path]

Did crit not get it again this week?

[lavish grove]

Don't care, just give me leggo

[meager void]

um, unless my friends are somehow super-players or something this "agony" takes a bout a day.

[fast mural]

a day of pain and suffering

and timegated quests

[meager void]

EU reset is today I think

[spiral orbit]

if i have no one to help me with superblooms how many will i have to run.

[silver mantle]

a lot

[fast mural]

10-15 if you get the max reward everytime

[silver mantle]

You'll probably have to spend an entire day just on superblooms

[fast mural]

without any of the buff you can get from other people

[oblique trail]

Took me 7 superblooms to finish it

With getting up to 5 buffs over the 7 hours doing it

Although the tracker never updated, nor did I keep the people in my party which supposedly affects it

[somber elk]

yay, no legy again

[fast mural]

they themself dont effect it only the buffs they give you later on as i understand

[barren dagger]

Actually 0 e-peen in this discord tbh

[spring oar]

Anyone got a WA for the legoo axe?

[barren dagger]

People are quite supportive to noobies

[fast mural]

why do you need a WA for leggo ?

[spring oar]

i hide my bars

i wanna see the cd

[spiral orbit]

if i want to pay someone to buff me, what's the easiest way? join a custom and hten be like "10k for buff"?

[fast mural]

just make an icon

[fast mural]

youll ask someone who isnt a 2h strengh class if they can give you the buff after the superbloom

paying is craizy

[bitter palm]

bro got flamed

100%

[wild mural]

I think they should buff fury

[bitter palm]

have u seen what happened to me with the dispell

that was punishment for trying fury

[barren stone]

so i have this shit but when i wanna use it on someone it says "invalid target" what the fuck do i do

[wild mural]

I got dispel p1

[bitter palm]

same

i got 2 dispels

[wild mural]

but lived somehow

LOL

[bitter palm]

i sat in the fire circle

rooted

for 20 seconds

[amber arch]

can you sim the vers wrists or is there no way to take into account you being close to 4 allies?

[warm crag]

they already had the quest before probably

[compact flint]

You can sim it regularly. But as fury I been using Primal Molten Vambraces with Shadowflame embellishment.

[young swan]

it sims 4 allies @ 95% uptime as default

[olive pine]

What dungeon is that?

[young swan]

its taylor swiftsagedral

[clever path]

Its an invalid target if theyve already completed it for someone else

[meager gyro]

just your average fyrakk pug now

[amber arch]

I used to be I see most people from murloc.io and archon running the allied wristguards of companionship https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/fury/warrior/mythic-plus/overview/20/all-dungeons/this-week

[young swan]

would be because its the most flexible

its barely behind on st, ahead on aoe, provides survivability

just cant go wrong with it

[compact flint]

The allied wrists have vers stats but it's made for tanking since it's a vers item?? Shadowflame embellishments help with dps more than vers does unless I'm crazy

[young swan]

vers is our best/2nd best stat this tier

[warm crag]

this is very solid logic and in no way faulty

[amber arch]

its not a "vers item" it has main stat...

[wary fjord]

Vers also isn't a tanking stat

It's just a stat

[lapis lion]

in what way ShadowWolf 🤔

[raw shuttle]

Lets say I have 80 rage, and bloodthirst is off cd. Do I bloodthirst > rampage>bloodbath, or just rampage>bloodbath?

[wary fjord]

Some people benefit more than others from vers, etc

[compact flint]

I just seen guardian druids and blood dk use vers as a main stat is why I asked.

[young swan]

yeah def not just a tank stat

[restive peak]

If you're enraged you BT, if you aren't you ramp

[restive peak]

BT EOGCD

[lapis lion]

this was basically me an hour ago. fucking stupid game

[warm crag]

stealing this screenshot ty

i will tell people this is me

[restive peak]

I rekilled heroic and mythic yesterday before the hotfix smile

[lapis lion]

also re: the blue post -- "This increase is retroactive and applies to all players whether or not you’ve consumed any Embers you may have."

is this essentially confirmation that the embers themselves truly are placebo/feel good item and the blp is happening on kill?

[restive peak]

Having free time on Tuesdays literally fucked my week up

[wary fjord]

No

[dire badge]

crazy that happened to u Spongo

[wary fjord]

It's in case u had some in your bag basically

It's not like they get better if u saved them they are saying

[lapis lion]

Yeah but the wording is very careful, and even before they say "To any players who receive them" instead of consume them

[trail bane]

No, it means that you have a hidden buff on your character that increases the drop chance. And the patch increased both the buff on players and on the items that arent consumed.

[wary fjord]

Idk y u would save them tho

[eternal sundial]

We had 1 drop in a 20 plate raid

[young swan]

because u dont need to use then

[eternal sundial]

But like everyone alr had it

[lapis lion]

Fella I am aware of how BLP works as a concept. There's just been a long standing debate between whether or not the embers actually needed to be used

And blizzard's intentionally vague language here indicates to me that the embers truly did do nothing as BLP is auto calc in the background

[wary fjord]

BLP will be an enigma forever

[lapis lion]

Of course, we'll never really know but still. Interesting choice of words from them

[wary fjord]

Ye

[warm crag]

noob american

[wary fjord]

Just give us raw numbers next time blizz, people would be less pissed tbh

[restive peak]

But I'm Canadian bae D:

[wary fjord]

Unless it's placebo .01% increases

[warm crag]

you live in north america

[dire vigil]

Next week is our time…🤡

[lapis lion]

I know they literally never have, but the fact that they refused to when the community essentially calculated it out to ~1% increase is silly

[restive peak]

Moving to you to force Anda back to aug don't worry

[young swan]

anda left..

[restive peak]

Anda will be back

[warm crag]

anda will not be back

[restive peak]

😦

Where did he go

[warm crag]

to a better place

[restive peak]

Is he too sexy for us now

[balmy shore]

bye anda 😔

[devout totem]

another week , another non legendary drop

[dire badge]

[frozen mirage]

Fellow Fury Warriors, my PC won't let me above 25 fps in Valdrakken, nor 10 fps while roots spawning at Tindral. I'm on GTX 1060/i7 7th gen 16gb RAM from the year 2016. What would you recommend to be able to find happiness in progress raiding again?

"It just works"-kinda, nothing fancy

[gusty compass]

BLP count over 25 with Lesser and over 14 kills in HC and still NO LEGENDARY! A friend have got it 2 times now...

[clever path]

Just loot it

[gusty compass]

No joke i want to go in a normal run and just pray to god it drops. Even if it cant, just some bug in the game gives it.

[balmy shore]

• turn off advanced combat logging (settings -> network)
• turn off unnecessary addons like raider io
• reduce the amount of details frames if you have multiple and increase the amount of time it refreshes
• reset all data on details regularly
• delete your logs folder on your pc
• restart your pc before raid
• reduce your render scaling under graphics in your settings i run at like 50% while in raid

ig also close out any programs that aren’t wow that you don’t need

oh and clean out your pc if it’s dusty

[edgy widget]

I am fairly confident that is the case, yes, but it is in no way confirmed

doesn't really matter anyway, since there's no reason to hold onto the items - if anything, it would actually work out better if that were the case

[gusty compass]

CAN IT PLEASE DROP IN ALL DIFF

[edgy widget]

...it can

[bitter palm]

ironically more dpses play vers

atm

[lapis lion]

lol wtf

[wary fjord]

Does he mean the lesser embers?

[lapis lion]

idk he just dropped the one nugget and dipped so we may never know

[gusty compass]

Hahaha naah, i mean the legendary xD

F the items.

[lapis lion]

well...it drops in all difficulties and always has..so

[gusty compass]

yeah but if u kill it in HC

then gg

[lapis lion]

what

are you saying

[gray nexus]

yes. highest difficulty rolls any lower difficulties

[wary fjord]

He asking for 100% drop or something?

[lapis lion]

correct but it seems like hes implying killing in heroic removes the lower chances lol

[wary fjord]

I mean, I wouldnt be opposed to 100% drop myself

[edgy widget]

Yeah and then everyone would be complaining its not legendary enough because every schmuck who rolls a War/DK/Pal has it

[gray nexus]

crit did not get his leggo this is so sad

[radiant trail]

Can any gamer send me the spear of bastion macro where it places it on ur feet?

or whatever its called now

[sand crest]

it should be 100% drop rate if you have any CE achi on your char

[dire vigil]

What?

[lapis lion]

i unironically agree, clearing mythic and not having it is so funny

[wary fjord]

Mythic should be 100% ye

[gusty compass]

i got and mythic kills

[dire vigil]

Blizzard selling a deterministic system to flash a weapon that shows your prowess and then granting it to people in LFR while CE players don’t have it is 100% the worst game design decision of all time for gear acquisition.

[edgy widget]

ironically though, that's how it's supposed to work

[dire vigil]

I’m planting that flag at this point

[edgy widget]

it is, by definition, supposed to be rare

[compact flint]

Didnt realize how hard it is to recraft a lariat ...

[lapis lion]

"Legendaries are intended to be a special reward that some players would aspire to obtain over the course of a season, demonstrating a display of excellence in the most challenging content." which makes this line even more hilarious

[edgy widget]

based on the system, everyone who doesn't have it, is going to have collected a lot of embers

[dire vigil]

Exactly what I’m referring to

[edgy widget]

so the comments of like 'OMG I HAVE 25 EMBERS AND STILL DON'T HAVE IT, HOW DID LFR GET IT" llike.. yeah that's how it's supposed to work

[gray nexus]

I personally think that anything that has a meaningful force on your performance should not be tied to rng outside of normal boss drops. Cosmetics being rare is fine, but a leggo that dictates a season where you'll never see a legendary weapon for your class probably ever again is a slap in the face if you don't get it early on

[amber arch]

25 goddamn thats some bad luck

[edgy widget]

the problem is observational bias - you hear about the guy who got it on LFR and think it's bullshit that "all these people" are getting it, without really recongnizing that's a teeny tiny fraction of the actual playerbase

[sour frigate]

i thought the more u whine the more chance of drop

[dire vigil]

It is THE worst item acquisition in the history of gaming. At least in a game like RS, you can buy the item on the GE even if you’re SOL on your own drop

[sour frigate]

[edgy widget]

lmfao

[dire vigil]

Crazy example, but I think it’s relevant

[gray nexus]

well it's definitely not the worst item acquisition but it's bad game design

[edgy widget]

that's a strange way of spelling hyperbole

[edgy widget]

also what does this even mean, lol - some trinkets are stronger than the legendary

[tepid scroll]

The Lego wouldn’t be as much of an issue if we weren’t balanced before this patch around it

[lapis lion]

okay man, i fucking hate the acquisition system too but this is wild

[tepid scroll]

Everyone else got buffs while all STR dps got left in the dust when 10.2 hit

[dire vigil]

Why is that a hot take though?

[edgy widget]

because it's not true?

[gray nexus]

If you're in a guild the chance you get a trinket is pretty high even the rare ones. They aren't incredibly uncommon and I'd say drop frequently enough. I'm stating anything outside of a normal boss drop

[sour frigate]

how about 6% arms buff?

[nimble kraken]

The questing afterwards isn’t even particularly engaging or challenging. It’s just a checklist unfortunately.

[lapis lion]

that it's the worst of all time? because worse have existed even in WoW

[edgy widget]

WORST ITEM ACQUISITION IN HISTORY is just a liiiiiiiittle overblown lmao

[dire vigil]

I’m not saying I want to buy it on AH, im just saying that even in another game with low drop rates, there is a definitive path to acquire

[edgy widget]

the questline is dumb, I agree

[dire vigil]

That’s all I mean by the comparison

[sour frigate]

worst item acquisition was early shadowlands 🍹

[gray nexus]

Luckily I speed ran the quest line and finished it in about 7 hours but why the heck should you have to do 8 superblooms lol

[tepid scroll]

Idk kinda whack how my 484 enh shits all over my warrior :/

[edgy widget]

I mean hell, vanilla was literally just random RNG drop - no BLP, no extra push loot, no nothing

[south kayak]

What is the worst item acquisition in history in your opinion, lmao?

[sour frigate]

no glowstick no damage bro

[edgy widget]

Yeah clearly the legendary is the source of all your lost dps

[dire vigil]

I say it’s the worst because Blizz defined a goal of deterministic acquisition and then made it completely random

It’s the worst “design” to actual process dichotomy ever

[lapis lion]

well, by definition, it is not completely random

[sour frigate]

not all but

[edgy widget]

you'd definitely be pushing +33, #1 on the meters and in our hearts if only you'd loot a shitty legendary 🤣

[sour frigate]

for arms is like 10%?

[wanton mirage]

There should be mythic kind of ember which should push the drop rate to 100% after maybe a month of killing fyrakk.

[lapis lion]

there exists a line where you theoretically can hit a guaranteed drop rate

[sour frigate]

for fury a bit less but still

[edgy widget]

not even close

[edgy widget]

they didn't actually ever say it was supposed to be deterministic, they never said "you should get it after this date or this much bad luck protection" or anything of the source

[dire vigil]

“Greatest ember of Fyr’alath”

[edgy widget]

there's a truck load of hyperbole flying around this conversation

like I get being upset because you want the shiny thing, but some of yall just straight making shit up lol

[bleak robin]

Does the legendary axe give the mog as soon as it drops?

[south kayak]

No

[bleak robin]

Oof

[south kayak]

are those fangs of the father in your pfp?

[fickle bone]

not a single legendary for mythic group again

[sleek parrot]

archi do you think fury was tuned around having leggo?

[sour frigate]

im all about irony and sarcasm but in fact legendary give A LOT

[bleak robin]

Yes box

[gray nexus]

I think most of it spawns from frustration of it just being a cool item and not having it for over 75% of a season is not very cash money

[edgy widget]

absolutely, and I agree, it sucks

I'm in that same boat too btw

[lapis lion]

i would agree entirely that the BLP was undertuned for much of the season because it being march and a ton of us still not having it is so dumb

[gray nexus]

Obviously if you're a good performer, you'll still perform well. But you know, you could perform even better. and I think that's what they mean even if the phrasing is kind of bad and nonsensical

[edgy widget]

🤷‍♂️ I think it ultimately depends on the intent - what is the goal?

Is the legendary supposed to be fairly rare, or is it supposed to be something that everyone is supposed to have?

[nimble kraken]

It’s cool for more casual players to get it. But for people pushing super high end content to not have a more solid way to get it when the seasons running out has gotta feel reaaaaaly bad

[gray nexus]

True. Depends on Blizzard's true vision

They made aman'thul in antorus and didn't say anything about that LOL rarest thing stg

[lapis lion]

and that's the problem, because the balance considerations come in based around rarity. as rare as TF? you dont balance specs around it. as rare as legion? everyone is balanced around it

[sour frigate]

no reason for it to be rare is specs tuned around it

[nimble kraken]

Wish there was some number at the top end where it just pity gives it

[edgy widget]

are they?

[lapis lion]

which leaves this shitty system where there's an item with a measureable dps impact that they have to balance around with a very feelsbad acquisition

[edgy widget]

I don't think enough people have a strong enough grasp on tuning to make that call

[sour frigate]

even if we look at sims they are

[edgy widget]

are they?

[dire vigil]

Fine. You’re right. They said “aspirational” which by default means nothing. I can aspire to play professional basketball. Doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen.

[edgy widget]

Honestly, the axe doesn't really impact Warriors (or DK/Pal for that matter) all that much

[gray nexus]

Most people who use the legendary slam even without it. I'm sure maybe there's truth at high level keys and stuff but I don't do that I just do raid and I perform just fine with no leggo

even if i cry inside a little

[limber mirage]

A cool item you will use for the last quarter of the season and maybe a few week into the next

Sad times

[dire vigil]

I concede that I read what I wanted to read.

[edgy widget]

• I mean, you definitely don't need the axe to get invited to raid
• you definitely don't need axe to clear the raid
• you definitely don't need axe to do the vast majority of M+

Absolutely, having the axe is better than not, but what do you define "tuned around" as?

[south kayak]

I really don't think they tuned STR specs around the axe

[sleek knoll]

nothing but DKS warriors and pallies doing Superbloom this is my life now

[south kayak]

Don't know why people think that

[dire vigil]

Listen. Maybe I just want to geargasm by the fountain in Valdrakken.

[limber mirage]

It's more of a vanity item at this point for me lol

[gray nexus]

right

[edgy widget]

I agree, its frustrating af

[south kayak]

They pretty much buffed all the str classes in the weekly tunings they did

[edgy widget]

and that alone is a good reason not to make a system like this, just because it annoys people

[lapis lion]

Well, no, there will almost certainly be an upgrade for it in S4.

[south kayak]

I'm glad I don't main warrior because that would suck

[lapis lion]

"We hear you" post inc

[edgy widget]

so IMO yeah, the axe is a total failure - not because it's too rare or not rare enough or whatever... but just because it's annoying to get

[sour frigate]

for example non lego specs sim way better than a legoless woyer or dk

[dire vigil]

Yeah this would’ve been so much better as a purple like Jailer gavel lol

[arctic copper]

Legendaries are intended to be a special reward that some players would aspire to obtain over the course of a season, demonstrating a display of excellence in the most challenging content.

[gray nexus]

it's funny bc yesterday every single person in our guild got the legendary. We're on M Fyrakk and just got our first good 1st set of ads cleared in P2. The axes will help us slam damage on ads more but for us it's basically over so doesn't even matter LOL

[dire vigil]

LFR on alt

[sour frigate]

lfr moment

[edgy widget]

most of them continue to sim way better than a legendary-having Warrior or DK too, so how are they tuned around it when the status quo doesn't change?

[sour frigate]

not way better but on par

[edgy widget]

like how are you defining "tuned around it" ?

[wild mural]

Im finally improving from being a shitter 🫡

[edgy widget]

when nothing actually changes

[sour frigate]

so a woyer needs A RARE ITEM to compete with other specs who even cant get it

[dire vigil]

The assumption that it would bring us to “on par” I guess

[arctic copper]

As bad as this system was, legion legendaries in first season was so much worse

[edgy widget]

that's like saying we're tuned around Augury lol

[edgy widget]

but does it?

[humble plover]

Gaymer

[lapis lion]

Question

[limber mirage]

That's why I said Maybe. For sure we will lol

[dire vigil]

It doesn’t make us meta so no

[wild mural]

we must be I dont have it and I suck 😦

[sour frigate]

👍

[wild mural]

REAL

[robust widget]

Isnt Augury like a leggo itself aswell? but i dont see as many people complaina bout it despite it not giving BLP 🙃

[lapis lion]

How many of you are still clearing H for lessers?

I dont think I've cleared H in a month or so

[humble plover]

You can loot Aug from vault tho

[edgy widget]

I'm just saying, there's a lot of copium in the idea that the axe is suddenly going to make you compete for the #1 slot on your meters... and I'm sorry to say that you're in for a rude awakening

[quiet geyser]

The legendary is a complete fail simply based off how its acquired, or for most of us not acquired. The complete randomness is ridiculous, something along the lines of shadowmourne would be better imo. I know that had its own problems/dislikes, but atleast theres some sort of control

[gray nexus]

I think Augury isn't as bad because you can get it in vault and I'd say it drops a lot from my experience. Like I think I've seen it drop every single week aside from maybe once or twice. If you aren't in a guild though, getting it I'm sure probably relies on vault lol

[edgy widget]

like Warriors aren't terrible this season, but they're definitely not among the best - with or without the legendary

[edgy widget]

my guild has seen 2 drop the entire tier, on any difficulty 🙃

ironically the same number of legendaries we've seen so far

[gray nexus]

Damn, unluckers

[sour frigate]

ofc there always be a skill issue but as i said legoless woyer sims way worse than other specs and the axe shortes the gap a lot

[edgy widget]

we've had more in vault, sure, but point was it's another rare item that's also bis and surprisingly strong for Warrior - so you could make the same argument that we're "tuned around it"

[quiet geyser]

We've seen 1, thats with about 20 plate users in every heroic kill since week 1

[open prairie]

meanwhile 6 in one 30man group

[dire vigil]

Wtvr. I’m just working on 3k in Prot spec until I get it.

Something new

It’s just fun to have new shit. Haven’t looted a useful new item in like a month.

[gray nexus]

I've felt pretty good as warrior in raid and M+. I know we're not meta META but I feel great with so much survivability and the damage we do is fine

[edgy widget]

like I said, the fact that the axe is more annoying than exciting to get is proof enough that its a bad system

[indigo quarry]

its not like we do dmg anyway

[sour frigate]

agree

[dire vigil]

Hard agree. Relief isn’t the same as excitement lol

[open prairie]

honestly

are dps dks even good

[edgy widget]

but I think some of yall are huffing way too much copium on the idea that it's suddenly going to make you "balanced"

[open prairie]

i only hear blood is good this season

[gray nexus]

yes

[sour frigate]

its okayge 🥲

[open prairie]

i know like 3 dps dks

one rerolled dh for most bosses

[sour frigate]

frost with glowstick does good almost as retri

in m+

[open prairie]

other two sat bench most of the tier

[dire vigil]

I think it would certainly help push some m+ bosses by channeling the on use effect but otherwise, not a huge utility difference

[wild mural]

We dont have a dps dk

I believe

[edgy widget]

more damage is better - yeah I mean that's a pretty obvious observation

[dire vigil]

Yes yes, I was deeply analytical there

[edgy widget]

but there's a practicality to that, right? Does it suddenly make you jump 5 key levels?

[open prairie]

legendary just drove the playrate of those classes way up

[gray nexus]

[dire vigil]

No

[sour frigate]

Not 5

[amber arch]

wait why superbloom?

[edgy widget]

for the lego quest

[amber arch]

ohh

[edgy widget]

cause they increased the drop rate and more people are (presumably) getting it now, they're all doing superbloom for the quest

[sleek knoll]

80% of the build is in emerald dream literally doing superbloom and farming elites

[open prairie]

i remember first 2 weeks of this season

[edgy widget]

Yeah the questline is mega garbage

[open prairie]

how everyone and their mother played dh

[amber arch]

Idk I feel like the leggo is nice to have, and I'll be excited to get it one day. I'm dissapointed when it doesn't drop. But at the same time, it's a game and its fine that it's a rare item

[open prairie]

they’re still good not sure why playerbase dropped so hard

[amber arch]

I do fine damage in keys and I'd almost say pretty great prio damage. I don't think they should just give it out

[sleek knoll]

uhh sir thats a rumor...no validity of someone at the RNG desk allowing that to drop unlimited

[bitter palm]

thye dont like it

inertia

🤮

[open prairie]

inertia is fun

wdym

[edgy widget]

its fine that some things be rare, but this method of acquisition was clearly a failure - just creating hard feelings and disappointment more than excitement

[arctic copper]

I have never seen heroic augury drop since week 1 and never got it in vault

[nimble kraken]

Yea the log in Tuesday, do raid. And then spend the rest of the week unhappy is not a great design

[amber arch]

yeah they could have made the drop rate a bit better for people clearing every week in heroic / mythic

[edgy widget]

I kept sayin it should have been more like the Shadowmourne questline, but then we've have the more casual players complaining that they don't have access to it... so it's kind of a catch-22

[edgy widget]

well they did, that's precisely how the ember system works

[amber arch]

I mean better better

[open prairie]

demonic essb inertia vr window lines up perfectly

every 40

[edgy widget]

that doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get it just because you got X # of embers or w/e though

[open prairie]

the design isnt bad idk

[bitter palm]

a lot of people dont like it

[sleek knoll]

the only major issue with current legendaries is that they dont last like og vanilla legendaries did. Thunderfury was still viable for use in black temple and sunwell.

[bitter palm]

same way a lot of people dont like playing outlaw around stealth / subterfuge

[spiral orbit]

WHat is the downside of a deterministic system where you know you will get it when you collect 100 embers. mythic drops 5, heroic 4, normal 3, lfr 2.
Like I literally dont see a single drawback with that. IT has something for everybody. you can even add a catchup later in the season.

[open prairie]

cant say i like the fact that immo aura can reset on its own

entirely due to rng

[bitter palm]

meanwhile outlaw is like the best designed spec atm

[edgy widget]

considering there will probably be an upgrade item in Season 4, I don't think that compliant is valid

I also think it'd be insanely bad design if we did still want to use it in TWW

[bitter palm]

kir makes it 1000x more fun

perma 5 roll

[open prairie]

the rework was real good

[sleek knoll]

but only pros run outlaw =X

[bitter palm]

arms is better

fight me

[open prairie]

sub sees alot less play relative to people complaining its op

[mortal rock]

What stats do i want for fury warrior ?

[arctic copper]

Because someone at Blizzard is determined to stay with randomized rewards for game psychology reasons.

[edgy widget]

ain't just blizzard - the entire video game industry is built off randomized rewards to encourage repeat gameplay

[sleek knoll]

idk DW 2H is BDE

[edgy widget]

and Blizz does have stuff that's deterministic 🤷‍♂️

[dire vigil]

People who play the game more should get it first

[amber arch]

dude doesnt like video games

[edgy widget]

I'd be surprised if anyone has gotten it without playing the game tbh

[indigo quarry]

imagine a tier where we get a lego and we get gapped by rogue anyway

[dire vigil]

😭😂

[open prairie]

guaranteed stuff makes people someetimes quit

when they reach goal

[vocal gazelle]

Timing wise on the legendary, do you try to save it for large packs or use every time its up in mythic+?

[open prairie]

prob why some players are so fixated on “bis lists”

[mortal rock]

my weapon are item level 441 and 437 is it worth to craft a 463 item level

[arctic copper]

That's true, and probably the reasons there won't be dinar in season 4

[dire vigil]

It should’ve been a shadowmourne quest that acales the timeline with your typical difficulty of completed content

If all you ever do is LFR, good. You get it last

[mortal rock]

What stats do i want for fury warrior ?

[open prairie]

snourne would draw complaints

since only one player can work on it

at a time

[peak lagoon]

probably more like 1 or 2

tbh

which is quite significant

[south kayak]

There will be

They specifically said so

[sleek knoll]

you spelled DH wrong

[edgy widget]

theoretically, but my point was that you're not suddenly getting invited to higher keys because of the legendary - if you're in a dedicated group, you might start pushing slightly higher because of it, yes

[open prairie]

i mean you get gapped by rogue too

[vague copper]

Kinda every class

[candid falcon]

the monkey's paw curls: we get dinar but only one

[peak lagoon]

maybe not for warrior but for pally definitly something people consider

because pally with or without leggo is quite the difference

[arctic copper]

I haven't seen any blue post saying there will be. Just from one long so saying they liked it but they won't be bringing it back

[edgy widget]

that's cause Pal is already getting invited anyway 😛

[peak lagoon]

especially on tyran weeks

[open prairie]

though i go on my dh

and most other alt dhs suck

[peak lagoon]

nah pally on tyran can be rough if it doesnt have lego

[open prairie]

dont press buttons

way less casts of everything

[peak lagoon]

pally with and without lego goes from a beast to a completly new and different beast

in M+

[edgy widget]

there are a few issues with guaranteed things

• it does take some of the excitement out of things when its too predictable
• it introduces a predictable power spike, especially when we're talking about every single War/Pal/DK all getting it at the same time
• how you acquire those predictable things (Mythic only or Mythic gets more) creates have/not situations, which people don't tend to like

Look at the inverse: what if you could get the embers from PvP too, and that was the best method of acquiring the lego? How happy would people be if you told them they needed to get 2400 rating to get the lego fastest? (anyone remember the PvP grind in BfA?)

[sleek knoll]

I dont need lengendary on pally to get invited but it will parse me over 1million dps consistently if i do get it on my pally

[south kayak]

There was, I am 100% sure

[peak lagoon]

i just wish theyd let us spam fyrak nonstop on like the .5 patch

at that point HoF is almost always full

and quite far into the patch lifespan anyways

[arctic copper]

Where? There was a lot of coverage about fated season and not one mention of dinar

[open prairie]

most pallys i see in pugs

do tank dam on bosses

[south kayak]

Check edit

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-will-have-season-4-with-fated-raids-icy-veins-interview-recap-335938

[open prairie]

like 100-110k despite being over 480 ilvl

[south kayak]

fotm gamers

[mortal rock]

how are my stats for fury warrior

[arctic copper]

Ah ok thanks, I miss misinterpreted that as there not being dinar

[open prairie]

the numbers

what do they mean

[quiet geyser]

Don't see an isssue with this at all. You get BiS/highest ilvl gear by doing highest level content. Legendary is BiS..why should it being any different? You should not be allowed to get a legendary from LFR lol

[south kayak]

Understandable, no problem

[sleek knoll]

more vers and more mastery crit can be lowered as you get vers and mastery higher

[open prairie]

i mean you need to show ilvl

or just gear in general

[mortal rock]

i need somone to do a sim for me i sucks to do sim for what gear to get from crafted enchant gems and talent for both raid and m+ can anyone help me ?

[open prairie]

raidbots

[edgy widget]

should you be able to get mounts/customization/any rewards at all from LFR?

[mortal rock]

What is mastery and versa capped for fury warrior ?

[edgy widget]

For better or worse, WoW is, at least at this point, designed to be a game with avenues for everyone

that's why they're adding max level rewards to open world content in TWW, that's why they added max level rewards to M+ and PvP in the past

[mortal rock]

Are stats weight sim bad ?

[edgy widget]

they're limited

[mortal rock]

What do it mean ?

sorry for understanding bad

[arctic copper]

It means stats weights change when you change gear

[open prairie]

your stat weights are only as relevant for the gear you simmed with

[mortal rock]

i did stats weights as destro warllock and i went up 30 k dps

[open prairie]

thats cope

[arctic copper]

That's fine but you will notice when you get new gear your stat weights change

[open prairie]

there are some weird specs that stack one stat sky high

like outlaw/sub

ig dhs stack crit stupidly too

[mortal rock]

so with 2 pieces t31 do i want to use raid and m+ build for t30 or t31

[bitter palm]

arms stacks a fuck tn of haste as well

[mortal rock]

Are not arms harder to play then fury in both raid and m+

[arctic badge]

Idk if blocking LFR only players from the Lego is the move either though. Personally think it should be like shadowmourne/dragonwrath/fangs, but just make it so that the kill bosses for x materials part of the quest gives you less materials the lower difficulty you do. If you do LFR only you get only 1 of x material, if you do it on mythic then you get 4, unless you’ve done it on LFR, then you get 3

[open prairie]

i mean no spec is “hard” to play

[olive wraith]

Arms is pretty easy

[mortal rock]

So for my sim raidbots recomend me to craft weapon first for fury

[open prairie]

weapons are always the biggest increases

[olive wraith]

Probably because you have very low ilvl weps

[open prairie]

i would have crafted one tbh if i didnt get

a myth track wep my first vault

and most embellishes nowadays are kinda

minor

[mortal rock]

becuse my stats look like this

should i go arms ?

[quiet geyser]

Im bias because i don't really care about mounts/customizations. Sure, let them obtainable from LFR. Anything that doesnt directly affect player power i could care less if its LFR-obtainable

[olive wraith]

Play both on target dummies and choose whichever spec you enjoy more

[open prairie]

honestly

[olive wraith]

Both are pretty equal

[open prairie]

if you dont even have 4p rn

you’re at the gearing stage ilvl matters

more than anything else

[mortal rock]

arms warrior got so many buttons

dont have enougj keubinds

[open prairie]

no?

[open prairie]

thats not alot

[young swan]

make more keybinds

[indigo quarry]

you are missing like half the keybinds

[ebon junco]

Bring back mist of pandaria

[indigo quarry]

from what i see

[young swan]

shift modifiers are your friends

[ebon junco]

I miss my mist of pandaria binds

[open prairie]

same

[indigo quarry]

i want meaningful keybinds

[open prairie]

i miss having more than 2 pages in my spellbook

[indigo quarry]

not fucking shit tier everything do the same dmg

[mortal rock]

my wep for fury warrior are 441 and 437 is it becuse raidbots say i should craft a wep first prio ?

[bitter palm]

yes

it takes more effort to live

rotationally they are both easy

arms has more optimizations

[mortal rock]

is it 2 spakr of dreams i need for to make a wep ?

[bitter palm]

yes

[young swan]

yes

[bitter palm]

fury just facetanks everything and doesnt even use defensives

arms has to

[ebon junco]

Xan NA run when

[edgy widget]

Fury doesn't have to use defensives, confirmed 🤣

[young swan]

i will not be logging in

[mortal rock]

my talent look like this for fury warrior with 2 pieces t31

[edgy widget]

in fact you don't even have to attack the boss as Fury

it just gets discouraged and dies

[ebon junco]

real

[open prairie]

spell reflect is a dps button

[edgy widget]

read the rest of the conversation

[open prairie]

not a defensive

lets be real

[sleek knoll]

defensive stance is the only defensive fury needs true stories

[bitter palm]

its a defensive

for your tank

tank gets to save cds

casue u sr

[chilly epoch]

??

[open prairie]

one day ghursha will target me

with more than one flame shock

please blizz

[balmy shore]

he’s too busy tweeting

[young swan]

man

[ebon junco]

too busy on tinder swipin for hot boys

[young swan]

???

[balmy shore]

💖

[ebon junco]

i wish old xan was still around

Old xan was fun

[balmy shore]

LOL

[open prairie]

yazma avoids me like the plague with wracking pain when i do AD on warrior

[ebon junco]

New xan is just cringe tinder boy enjoyer

[warm crag]

remember when xan said that the legendary is bad

[open prairie]

yet i log onto any other class she picks me on cd

[young swan]

im being attacked in my home

[ebon junco]

Remember when Xan said that inspiring pressence was pretty useless and overrated

[warm crag]

remember when xan said that inspiring presence deserved to be axed

[balmy shore]

xan u said that

?

[young swan]

dude

[balmy shore]

???

[warm crag]

why the fuck did he do that

[balmy shore]

😭

[ebon junco]

Remember when Xan tested on dummies and didn't go into a stance

and said dps was dog shit

[hollow quiver]

finnally this fckin axe

[young swan]

its like being surrounded by 5 gajeels

[balmy shore]

LMAO

[warm crag]

remember xan 1 hour yap session that boiled down to "fury bad"

[young swan]

just non stop harassment

[ebon junco]

Old xan

wouldve talked back

new xan is just mommys boy

[mortal rock]

anyone got spear of bastion corsour macro ?

[young swan]

unfortunately xan doesnt shit talk people he LIKES

[ebon junco]

awww + don't care + ratio

@balmy shore u should fix xan's tinder profile

[balmy shore]

xan i found my bf on tinder i can help

“fury warrior”

done

[ebon junco]

If it's "Arms warrior" he gets all the women

if it's fury 🤓

[young swan]

nobody plays worlie warcraft in canada

[vague moon]

is it normal for furious BT (2set bonus) not to trigger/refresh enrage?

[young swan]

bt crits dont proc enrage

[chilly epoch]

What if I put "prot warrior" in mine

[young swan]

its a flat 30% chance

[ebon junco]

x

[vague moon]

when was it changed

[south kayak]

Bfa

Lol

[vague moon]

lol

[young swan]

/cast [@cursor] Champion's Spear

[balmy shore]

i was gonna say i think it’s been that way since i’ve known the game 💀

[south kayak]

Man hasn’t checked enrage tooltip since legion

[vague moon]

true

[open prairie]

anyone have a loboz macro

for pressing tr and spear together

[mossy fox]

send help

[silver mantle]

oh no

[indigo quarry]

to loot lego you need to join the Tmy run on wednesday

we always loot

[amber arch]

the drop rate is way up too

Wootodoo has done 5 runs today and seen 21 drops

[open prairie]

yeah i mean the rate is pretty high rn

[indigo quarry]

number of drop doesnt mean shit

[open prairie]

did it on both warrior and dh and 6 dropped in both runs

in 30man groups

[edgy widget]

since before that - crits haven't triggered enrage since MoP

[south kayak]

I could have sworn they have in legion

[meager void]

oh no, omg man

[south kayak]

[amber arch]

Isnt our enrage uptime like 95%+ anyway?

[indigo quarry]

99% if you dont fuck up

[young swan]

pretty sure bt enrage was off crits in legion yeah

[edgy widget]

it went back and forth

• it was crit in MoP
• Flat chance in WoD
• crit in Legion
• flat chance in BfA onward

[south kayak]

How did you enrage in WoD

Oh flat chance

[young swan]

crit in tww

[south kayak]

What chance was it?

[young swan]

[south kayak]

Wasn’t enrage like 10 seconds in WoD lol

[still swift]

cringe normal mode group instapulls so i cant put my quest item on

pfff

[bitter palm]

no way

[edgy widget]

the function of Enrage has changed dramatically over time

[bitter palm]

[open prairie]

good ol legion

with unrivaled strength

hit like a wet noodle outside battlecry

[south kayak]

I hate that

[edgy widget]

but yeah, it was crit based in MoP with various modifiers; at one point, Bloodcraze was baked in, then later they just gave BT a default 2x chance to crit, but that introduced gear scaling issues (low gear rarely got procs, high gear could actually gaurantee them)

they changed it to BT having a flat 30% chance to trigger Enrage in WoD to give the ability a little more consistency, which was both good and bad (more consistent, but also less predictable)

Legion put it back on crit because the introduction of Rampage would have otherwise severely devalued crit as a stat

[south kayak]

Wasn’t crit worse than haste and mastery in legion

[edgy widget]

and now its back to a flat % chance to trigger because Rampage has become the central focus of the rotation, while Bloodthirst is supplementary instead

[open prairie]

lol i remember in the legion lock guide

“if your spec likes vers theres something wrong with its design”

[mortal rock]

what dps class for caster and melee do we think become good in s4 ?

[south kayak]

In a way, that’s true

Because it means you mastery sucks

[silent burrow]

I mean... everybody got to pick their shit for s4, so look at what was most dominant lol

[south kayak]

Or haste

[edgy widget]

Crit was a strong stat at the start, but stuff like Convergence pushing higher Reck uptime and better cooldown alignment ended up dropping it back down, yeah

[south kayak]

I see

[edgy widget]

by Antorus, it was the lowest stat though, yeah

[south kayak]

So fury was more consistent in emerald dream

Than bursty

[young swan]

it was still bursty

there were just longer periods between your burst

but burst is better anyways

best damage profile in the game

[edgy widget]

It wasn't nearly as bursty in Emerald Nightmare, no - didn't really have time to lean into all the artifact/lego stuff that early in the expansion

Fury also wasn't played a whole lot that "tier" either; Arms gapped it pretty hard, especially with the ring

[young swan]

throwback to when TR was DR and it was also a damage buff

[south kayak]

Plenty of specs were shit that tier

Iirc

[mortal rock]

What class do you guys think will be good as caster and melee for s4 ?

[south kayak]

Execute ring before the nerfs

Lol

[young swan]

3 rppm SD

[south kayak]

So basically like now?

[young swan]

basically just furys s1 tier but execute owned

[south kayak]

Imagine if fury had EP

[young swan]

🧙‍♂️ 🔮

shadow priest and ww

🔮

[south kayak]

[south kayak]

I’m gonna save this

If it’s wrong you give up yellow

[arctic copper]

That damn execute ring is the only reason legion legendaries were so bad to obtain compared to fyralath

[young swan]

ceann-ar charger

[arctic copper]

I never got the ring until the third nerf :/

[south kayak]

Legion legendaries on launch are actually the worst acquisition ever

[arctic copper]

Agreed

[young swan]

absolutely

[arctic copper]

Makes fyralath feel like a give away

[young swan]

by nighthold it was mostly fine tho

[deep flicker]

is there a pvp channel or can I jst ask here?

[young swan]

#pvp

[deep flicker]

im so very blind

xD

[south kayak]

I can’t imagine how bad it would feel to get some shitty legendary

Thank god I didn’t play

[young swan]

unless if u were cutting edge

it wasnt that bad

[arctic copper]

It was horrible.... You were gapped by 20% just because of legendaries

[young swan]

i say this as someone who experienced it btw

[arctic copper]

They was such a large difference from utility legendary and bis legendary DPS

[young swan]

i didnt get a good lego until my 5th

[warm crag]

"its not that bad" "legendary is bad" xan printing takes

[edgy widget]

it was shit at the very start

[warm crag]

jk love u big man

[edgy widget]

but they did take steps to normalize the power differentials pretty quickly

[south kayak]

How long did that take

[arctic copper]

Yeah but night hold it was fine

[edgy widget]

And Emerald Nightmare was a fucking joke, with or without the right legendaries, that raid fell over

[arctic copper]

By

[young swan]

a good couple weeks, cant remember it was a while ago

probably around 2 months?

maybe more

[edgy widget]

I didn't get a DPS legendary until we killed Mythic Gul'Dan

[arctic copper]

Tomb of sargeras is when everyone finished out so their legendaries. I remember getting one per week then

[young swan]

i didnt get ceann-ar until after NH released im pretty sure

[south kayak]

How many legendaries were people getting per week

[south kayak]

[young swan]

idk dude i was a casual

[edgy widget]

and tbh, after the first round of hotfixes in early Legion, the Prydaz was actually goated

[vague moon]

depends on playtime tho

[young swan]

not paying attention to lego per week stats

[vague moon]

i got 6 legendaries in two weeks but didnt went outside at all

[south kayak]

Playing mythic guldan with agrammar’s stride

[arctic copper]

In emerald nightmare you got 2 and very few got 3-4

[south kayak]

[young swan]

yeah prydaz fucking owned

[arctic copper]

There was a cap of 4 that Blizzard didn't admit to

[edgy widget]

not even close

most people had one by EN, if that

some had two or more, but definitely not a lot

[south kayak]

Sephuz at start was pretty bad

[arctic copper]

Oh was it just one? I don't really remember that tier. I just remember that my first one was protection gloves.

[young swan]

bis prot gloves

holy moly

[arctic copper]

Because I forgot to fix loot spec for one random dungeon

I wasn't a tank 😦

[edgy widget]

Sephuz was always kinda dog for War in PvE - despite some interesting potential (you could proc it off charge, even)

[eternal hamlet]

check this, just did FYrak HC

[south kayak]

They had better legendaries

[edgy widget]

sure, but sephuz was still kinda shit

[south kayak]

Shadow priest had so many shit legendaries they were using it on single target without a way to proc it

[edgy widget]

in fact, its implementation in SimC was // that shit legendary ring

[south kayak]

[young swan]

it was pretty good in m+ after it got buffed to give u a lust when u pressed interrupt

[indigo quarry]

Prydaz gang

[south kayak]

Prydaz is nuts

[edgy widget]

Prydaz was my first and I hated it at first

[quaint stag]

12 hc kills no axe. Next week for sure

[edgy widget]

but after a couple buffs, it was actually fantastic

[young swan]

30% hp shield with like 5k in secondaries

[edgy widget]

especially when you had to play the Fury tax (enrage increased damage taken)

[young swan]

actually nuts

[summer quail]

prydaz for prog owned

[south kayak]

Didn’t it have 3 secondaries

[summer quail]

yes

[south kayak]

Oh my god

20% damage taken

[summer quail]

ye and then you had warpaint to reduce it to 10 iirc

[south kayak]

What a joke

[young swan]

it got nerfed to 15%

and warpaint brought it down to 10%

but yeah it was quite hellish

[south kayak]

And now warpaint literally gives you 15% dr for free

[young swan]

10%

[south kayak]

Typo

[indigo quarry]

its actually silly

passive perma DR shouldnt exists too

[edgy widget]

it was always 20%; Warpaint got buffed instead from 15->10, but yeah

[young swan]

yeah the defensive power creep since legion has been insane

brain bad

wcyd

[edgy widget]

I fucking love it

Honestly it's my fav part about War this expansion

[south kayak]

You had to use prydaz to survive things in m+ lol

And some obscure trinkets

It was ridiculous

[young swan]

swapping to cheat death trinkets to survive mechanics on bosses

[edgy widget]

Yeah I wish War damage were better tuned in DF, but the fact that the big plate wearing martial class actually feels tanky now is 10/10 for me

[south kayak]

[young swan]

yeah and natty stacking 30% vers helps a lot too

passive 25% dr or whatever

[edgy widget]

the spell reflect changes were sleeper huge too

the fact that reflecting a spell doesn't consume the DR

[rigid stirrup]

when are we getting high/un cap aoe 😦

[young swan]

i doubt we ever will

[edgy widget]

Yeah probably not

[young swan]

i dont even want uncapped stuff

[indigo quarry]

this one is so good

[young swan]

i just want to be sick nasty at 5

[rigid stirrup]

I mean 5 is fine to

[indigo quarry]

problem is that warrior dps niche are shit kinda

[south kayak]

Like enha

[rigid stirrup]

it just feels terrible doing high keys and target cap just holding you back on giga pulls

[edgy widget]

honestly I'd rather see more uncapped AoE reigned in, than more things uncapped

[young swan]

agreed

[restive peak]

^

[indigo quarry]

when everything was uncapped in legion it was ok

but now its stupid to have uncapped shit

[young swan]

i think a class having uncapped stuff should be special

[edgy widget]

Yeah, ultimately it doesn't really matter which way it goes, it just needs to be more consistent

some things being uncapped is fine, it should just be fairly rare

[young swan]

exactly

[indigo quarry]

having just Troar uncapped

[edgy widget]

instead we have whole classes that are capped and others that are uncapped

[indigo quarry]

is ok

[south kayak]

Legion fury was funny

Only aoe you had was of

[rigid stirrup]

being in keys with hunter and pali combo just makes me feel extra small

[south kayak]

The cleave doesn’t really do anything

[edgy widget]

you had Bladestorm, cleave, whirlwind

[young swan]

LOL

[south kayak]

I doubt you ever played that

[young swan]

bladestorm

[south kayak]

With RA

[young swan]

🤣

[edgy widget]

Fury WW actually did work in Legion with the lego belt

[young swan]

i miss legion ww

bring it back

[south kayak]

Yeah spamming ww was fun with najentus

Vertebrae

[edgy widget]

I prefer Meat Cleaver tbh, but belt + lego and full buffs could feel real satisfying

[indigo quarry]

GIVE LEGION BACK

[south kayak]

Now it’s only for 30% damage lol and it does way less

[wary fjord]

Give us juggernaut back

[edgy widget]

fuck no

[wary fjord]

It was ours

[indigo quarry]

its 55%

[edgy widget]

that one can stay gone

[wary fjord]

Pls

[young swan]

im not super happy about the maintenance buff feel of MC anymore but simultaneously still like it

[wary fjord]

[edgy widget]

problem with Legion design is that it was a fuckin Jenga tower - propped up by artifact powers, huge overlapping buffs, broken powerful trinkets

[young swan]

my feelings are mixed

[edgy widget]

remove any one of those, and the whole thing crumbles

[wary fjord]

But Jenga is fun sometimes

[indigo quarry]

powerscaling in legion was clearly insane

[south kayak]

You had like 100% mastery by the end

[ocean cape]

im cursed right

[edgy widget]

I'm just sayin, OF in Legion wasn't inherently better than it is now; it just got buffed to giga power levels by the huge amounts of overlapping buffs, crit scaling, CDR, etc

[edgy widget]

yeah you're the only person who hasn't gotten the legendary

it's definitely just you

[ocean cape]

thank you

[south kayak]

At least you’re special

[ocean cape]

tell me im a special boy

[red berry]

i wish i could be special but i have like twelve legendaries in every slot so

[south kayak]

Once is enough

[edgy widget]

should put in GM ticket, tell em you haven't gotten your lego quota yet

[mossy fox]

we're alone in this together

[ocean cape]

TELL ME I'M THE ONLY ONE

[ocean cape]

did you get shafted again?

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/there-can-be-only-one-gif-17652867202966242006

[mossy fox]

....yes

[ocean cape]

It's ok bro we can be +25 hardstuck together

errrr wait

[edgy widget]

no you can't

[south kayak]

I wonder if critcake gets the leggo if he changes warrior

[edgy widget]

only one of you can be special

[mossy fox]

2nd warrior didnt get it

should make 10 i guess

[south kayak]

F

[vague copper]

Have they said anything about if the leggo will be uppgraded in next patch or do we only have X-week left to use it? Not like I have it ><

[eternal sundial]

drops on mythic

[restive peak]

Checking in for the sad party...

[wary fjord]

It will probably upgrade

[south kayak]

You can upgrade it next season

Most likely

[ocean cape]

oh my god man

[wary fjord]

Like the Sylv bow

[restive peak]

Can confirm it does not source killed again last night lol

[barren dagger]

at least biz got it. hope you are happy for him

[ocean cape]

Still in top 5 warriors without lego is a flex tho

[mossy fox]

wonder if they left the group loot leggo drop on mythic untouched

[indigo quarry]

how unlucky can you be

[restive peak]

They did, Myth had 1 drop today

[restive peak]

Apparently 15 heroic clears and 3 mythic clears unlucky BROTHERRRRR

[young swan]

myth

like the healer

that quit the game

or

guild

[restive peak]

No the guild that Frenog is in

[young swan]

ah

[restive peak]

It dropped on boss and was tradeable for them this AM

[mossy fox]

i mean i wonder if they also upped that chance

or if it's only the personal loot blp ones they increased

[restive peak]

Didn't help our leggo-less HOF guild last night smile

[restive peak]

It's absolutely mind boggling we haven't gotten 1 lol

[edgy widget]

we got two - dk tank alt and h pal 🙃

[restive peak]

Lmfaoooo

Great design

[wary fjord]

Lol

[restive peak]

12/10

[wary fjord]

Pain

[edgy widget]

h pal hasn't even bothered to do the q

[mossy fox]

we got it on tank dk and dps dk

[indigo quarry]

why would he do the quest

[scenic quest]

hahaha thanks

[wary fjord]

Has no incentive as h pally tbh

DK had incentive tho

[indigo quarry]

tank alt

so cant bother

[wary fjord]

Ah, lol

[indigo quarry]

when i got the quest

i tried to delete it

[wary fjord]

Lol

[indigo quarry]

and i tried again after doing it

if i could

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[indigo quarry]

i was about to vanish

[warm crag]

@young swan i follow your footsteps..

[young swan]

[restive peak]

Man we're currently sellin 1 mount a week, sadness is real while I wait my turn

[modest condor]

the last 2 people of our raid team that didnt have it yet got it today

[balmy shore]

[silver mantle]

including you, right?

[sleek knoll]

98 dream leafs to go 41 tether coils to go...this so mf tedious to do

[sullen dove]

51?