#fury
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Rogue discord down. Let's go see what it takes to be banned from the shaman discord.
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Blocked
F
if you ask nicely its faster i know a guy
No this one is last
but they can ban you in sync

shut up nerd

ok sorry I even talked whoever you are
you’re like Roid 2.0
get on your hands and knees and bow to him
if you're trying to get banned then we can handle that for you
dude i forgot Roid was so happy to flame in an other discord and coming back here only to get banned from everywhere
lmao
I think the Druid discord was the quickest for him too
they just gave zero fucks
oh yeah it was from there
he bragged about flaming there
only to get smacked in here
noob question alert, if im swapping stances for sod pvp i have to go arms for tactital mastery correct?
where is the sod chanek
so if you keep ember in your bag
does this dumb shit
give a higher chance
for lego or something
someone told me that idk if its true or not
Anything gimmicky like that is tin foil hat stuff
Alt warrior no lego, time to quit WoW.
You have to let 6 greater embers and 9 lesser embers sit in your bag for 3 days and legendary will appear there
It’s an attune
Trust
major league tinfoil cope
i heard you have to be a pally to get leggo
I have a question regarding simming, I wanted to see if I need to recraft gear stats but not sure how I would I do it with gems involved since it maxes out. Or better yet, how impactful does gems affect said crafted stats I guess
could try to do droptimizer
honestly depends, i would sim since everyones gear is different
why do you mean by it maxes out?
the iterations?
Yeah with different gems and enchants and I have 3 crafted items with different stat combos
you can do it manually with gear compare
full resocket is usually like 0.1-0.2% difference unless your secondaries are super scuffed
you cant really go wrong with just sticking to mast/vers gems this season
Hmm, so gems in general shouldnt directly affect raw stats on crafted gear overall?
Oooh 489 might of ocean
Me too!
meanwhile dh gets 3 usable vault slots

@covert blaze anthia ring, myth track helm, myth waycrest fist on dh
sim 
is the anthia ring myth track?
i was gonna say weapon anyway
yeah like 2k vs 1k
weapon vs helm that is, ring would be another week at least since needs a socket
yeah
same bestie
same wep benzai has too

got an hc thorncaller off council
woyer gets lego this week maybe 
must be nice 😔
isnt double time oh better in aoe
not sure
st sim at least dt lost to thorn
Quick question for y’all pro Fury gamers. Why is it that sometimes an empowered bloodbath will crit for 290k and other times like 460k within the same set of empowered bloodbath from a single OF? There’s no Sophic proc and nothing changes that I personally can see. I know it’s tough without logs but maybe someone has had the same experience?
well my guess would be
avatar
up
with pots and shit
Ooooh
Good point
Totally forgot about the Ava uptime
Thanks! Figured it was something stupid I’m missing lol
well happens to the best of us 😄
Ty for lettin me off the hook 😂 does that mean we would like to prio going into OF with a reckless stack queued up?
with that big of an increase it sounds like the enemy just dropped below 35% between 2 bloodbaths
Couod be that too. Combo.
you wont hit 460k on an enemy above 35% unless there's some other damage increase like on smolderon
lol just checked the talent breakdown on smolderon http://puu.sh/K0T3G/cf788f9e04.png
guess who that 1 player with roar is
Hey everyone, is this the right place to talk about sod warrior?
would the vanilla-discussion section be right?
try the fight club discord
thank you
is it carlo
🙂
me

hey y'all...do we like the dungeon slice sim or some other combo to get a decent m+ sim for top gear? thanks much!
are you stalking my demon hunter wtfrick
Hey quick question, sorry if it's already been asked. Is it better to open the vault with arms spe or fury spe when playing fury ?
arms
what weapon runes are people using? is it hissing baseline? or does it depend on stats?
you or archi probably
nice
NEVER ESCAPING
you got your only lego for the tier on the wrong char
is this the default reaction whenever someone post they got it
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
is Nightmare Egg shell a simtrap? I've got a choice of coiled serpent idol or egg shell same ilvl. Wanted to be sure I can fully trust raidbots.
no it's not
both of those trinkets are trash
egg shell just slightly less trash i guess
T.T
maybe if we still played AM i would have been good
i think serpent coil oversims as well. holy moly what a garbage trinket
beats the breaks off of this 415 Zaqali Chaos Grapnel XD 476ilvl upgrade too
Or the correct class
wait you don’t have it either? This system is KILLING ME lol
13 week club
Crit and Biz don’t either right
Correct
saw a 434 ret with it tho
i finally got lucky last week, but if i hadn't gotten it before we killed fyrakk i would just have quit
Biz is not going to have a desk to play on soon enough
i got it on my ret paladin :) only killed it three times on that character btw :)
When people were leveling evokers, killing sark, and deleting them
You would think they learned anything
fun game :))
They did learn, they learned placebos work at quelling the squeaky wheels

So what is TRUE bis trinkets for us? in both slots.
for m+ augury and might of the ocean. for st raid augury and signet brand
tho signet brand depends on fight length
“true bis” lol
if only there existed a website you can calculate upgrades for your character—oh wait


We should ask @axekandi
Oh...
Next question for the community- given that attacking a target under 35% gives us 50% increased BT/BB damage, in a cleave situation do we want to try to target a 35% mob as our primary target for increase to the cleave base number?
VC does checks independantly so u cant cleave the bonus damage
Ah okay ty ty. Does it still make sense to prior lower targets? Used to do that for execute cleave anyhow.
it will make you do more damage yes, but usually those targets aren't prio so it's not very valuable
what is Corrupting rage uptime on Tindral prog? or should I just stick to Tepid
I was under the impression you don’t want rage on prog
Thank you all! Just all of a sudden seeing my logs fall way way off after having an 85% mythic average last tier.
Another week, another ember... I swear this feels so bad at this point. Especially with every LFR hero in Valdrak seemingly having it at this point...
You are not alone my friend. All your feelings are shared by me.
Maybe we'll get it before s4, seriously the "protection" is a placebo
I’ve gone past thinking it’s placebo and convinced it reduces your chance of looting it
i think they saw my photoshop edit and flagged my warrior that's my conspiracy theory
it's over
they thought you already have the lego
me too, it is Good luck protection
you know what is really tinfoil....
the lesser BLP ember counter goes up when u loot it, not when u click it
so im pretty sure clicking does nothing
The plot thickens
just killed mythic fyrak, nobody got lego...what a joke
yeah, the mythic-fyrakk killers with no leggo is a sad club to be in 😦
they better make the lego upgradable in S4
i think they will
at this rate ill get it with 2 weeks left ot the season
I’d not craft it out of principle in that case tbh
So basically they are conducting a social experiment on us! :p in reality though as long as @mossy fox hasn’t gotten it I have hope still that it may exist
this bad luck protection is just an illusion
Dev reading this chat going “they know”
voodoo
xeos im starting to think voodoo is bad
voodoo is bad
wishing voodoo upon others
i am in despair
voodoo working
honestly thinking the bad luck protection has to be so low its almost impossible to increase

until they release the numbers it will remain as such.
it's actually just xeos's voodoo
wasn't there a chart the other week on how many had it?
Aagaard stockpiling them in his bags makes sense now
He knows the shit harms your chances
Big brain play
what if it is something sus like mobile gaming type RNG, where "new accounts" and "new players" or "coming back" players havebetter RNG on looting it.
ppl with 1 year subs just never get it, kek
With the amount of “hey guys, just looted leggo on alt I haven’t played in a while” posts…
I’m inclined to agree
Guess I’m fucked with my 12 month rolling sub
yeah blizz knows players like us won't quit over it
but giving leggo to a "new coming back player", will retain them
Might need to look into the statistics of prepurchasing war within and looting it
I need this type of podcast for wow
week 12093810 of no one in our guild getting the legendary from aotc week 1
we are going to kill mythic fyrakk before any of us get it
only one in our guild to get it is our perma-benched new recruit that came back to the game in 5+ years. And also they got it week 2 after <Echo>
Classic
sanest xeos moment
3 months to not obtain legendary is actually fucking asinine literally the tier's almost over
for a weapon that's our tuning check
gg go next
Gajeel the "PI"oneer
priests in my guild terrorize 💅
lmao
Yeah i'd love for them to do a qa about their design philosophy and how this is fun for the people who go the whole reason without getting it
hi gajeel big fan]
It's basically a never happening again kind of deal too like it's so rare you get a legendary for your class we won't see one for another 20 years


Big fan of Gajeel (and how he moderates Xan so effectively)
When is DR for our mastery?
55-56% at 5400 rating
Yeah you can range it
OOf, i'm at 64% at 6500...uh...hm
council loot 
for fun gameplay why do u care
to get it on cd for intermission
ya
not sure if u get ava
1.5's i mean
all my tries i never had it on actual intermission with orbs bl and stuff
you do if you go out far so the orbs spawn further away
^
to the edge of the arena?
critcake has a video on it (same thing on mythic so still applicable)
also whatever opener you do on smolderon is fine as long as you use all cds right after eachother. i do reck>charge>ramp>of>spear>avatar. still have time for cds in intermission
🤷♀️
For any fury wars progressing or reclearing smolderon looking for logs, I'm working on a weakaura pack to help with the enranged regen to stay in lingering burn mechanic when we have popped cd's. So far it tracks the dot tick and our ER timer. Is there anything else you guys find yourself using that should be in the pack when you tank a fire circle to keep dps uptime?
why is there such a small diff in dmg between people who hold cds and people who dont for intermission shield?
I did reck charge ava ramp odyns spear and still got them all in the intermission. Once theyre all used in 10 seconds you'll have them all back (93 centile mythic parse with no aug or PI)
that's what i said, you can do whatever opener on smolderon as long as you use all cds after eachother
I've always used them on pull on heroic and have like 80ish centile logs. When I fixed it to use on pull and have back for damage amps my logs were higher on mythic despite ibviously it being a higher skill of players. On cd will surly net more damage.
hmm. Do i take myth track hand upgrade or signet :hmm:
Yep, was confirming your point that the order doesnt matter
The one that sims the best
Will you be next in guild to get sigent brand and do you reclear heroic each week? If not, take signet brand 100%.
Signet is good but like keep in mind heavily fight length dependent
if u do raid only signet is great imo
But still just sim and you get your answer
so do i keep augury on at all times and swap between branch/heroic cataclysmic brand?
even if you're next in line to get signet rng can screw you over. i've been next in line for a while now, just no drops
Sim it
Yea same, and we have stopped reclearing heroic now so I have to pug an roll on my 24% drop chance
how do u sim specific bosses
or do i just sim st and dungeon slice
do you have might? coz might is just simming higher than branch for me
Sim based on fight timer
no
go farm might, good trinket
no luck
The 'sim it' logic here is pointless. CSB will sim better than anything in the game on a six min st fight. If you dont have the trinket or dont think you'll get it in the next two weeks, you'd be a madman not to take it
It is because it assumes 100% stack uptime
some fights are like 3-4 mins
And no damage amp
???
not even 15 stacks 
Then how does it sim worse for me on 3-4 minutes as opposed to 5+?
Say he's progging smolderon on with a big dps amp, he'd be better off if he had augery and might already
Trinket sims on the last 3 bosses of mythic are a bait imo (if just simming patchwork 6 min)
Whats the softcap on mastery/haste?
Does softcap exist in this game yet?
You might want to recheck what you replied to
usually peeps go 55% mast but its not capped
ok thought there was still softcaps since they exist in wrath and previous
But even still the exceptions to don’t negate the rule that you should just simply yourself for best setup
yeah and in wrath u had shitton of other stats like hit arp etc ...
if u unsure about ur stats and have choice u should use topgear at raidbots
also @sharp tartan
This didn't reply to anything?
really?
i sim have most of the bis setup atm, just wondering for flasks/pots
on mythic tindral, what prio is wrecking throw?
You linked 3 screenshots of talent builds with no context? What is this?
look at the trinket spread
it's just there for the shield in the intermissions
signet has the overwhelming representation on the last 3 fights
I'm arguing for him taking csb? so what is the point of linking csb screenshots to me?
you were arguing that simming is irrelevant for those fights...
I like csb
I'm saying that if someone want's advice, saying 'sim it' isn't the best answer. That's all
it covers 95% of the bases
If he has a myth augery and might, he might not get as much value if his guild is gonna spend the next 5 weeks on smolderon
i know that, but is it before i use 4P stacks
I'm not saying sims are worthless, but we can surely give him better advice by asking what he has and were in the raid he is....
98% of the top 100 parses are signet on smolderon

I can't remeber off the top of my head but @mossy fox makes it very clear in his vid on the first shield where he uses it so worth checking out
And yet augery sims ahead. But surly an on use if you already have a passive trinket will be better in this fight? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/35#boss=2824&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&combatantinfo=Trinkets
Feel free to link your mythic smolderon log?
anyone using an on use is using it alongside signet
missed the kill unfortunately was in Spain for 2 weeks for work
but that's irrelevant anyways
That's unfortunate. Anyway, you've twisted this into an argument about what trinket the top 100 use on a specfic fight. My point is that what a person should take from vault is dependent on a lot more than that (what they can easily get with their guild, what they have already, what their goals are)
hey man no need to overcomplicate things, just let the man sim and make his choice
simming it is just the most simplistic answer
the rest is not for us to decide anyways
if i dont get signet anyway
and i need the boss dmg
for prog
id take signet
otherwise glvoes
idk gloves kinda
so easy to get
this late into the season idk how you wouldn't have myth track on all tier
like if it was early patch I would just take the trinket so my guildies could get the next one to drop 
you just pick hc signet every single day here no unless you have reasonable expectation that oyu will reclear hc before prog and you will be awarded signet
how many signets is your team missing
you can take any myth track hand item and just catalyze it so many drops possible
unless you do like 1 vault key a week

if that number is greater than 0 you probably just pick the signet
oh its not my vault
pips for arms

basically all I'm playin now anyways
but also got 4 m smolder kills and seen 0 signet brands 
practically famous
damage wise prob ye
75th on Volco
probably not for me since I simmed stats around the vers
Can we..trust...statweights?
@hasty hedge mentioned
nope
maybe its good for changing a single gem?
if u know how to utilize the information they are fine
if u want to know whats best use top gear
there is a reliable technique for simming that and you will not believe what it is (gone wrong)

ironically it wasn't simming ahead last I checked from my setup
my gear is prolly just scuffed tho
for me its only behind 489 signet
and on par with 496 augury
so u replace it with augury
at 496 at least i would
483 signet+489 sandglass is the current winner for me
augury a loss for me
483 signet + 489 ember for me
ye u need to swing ur stats a lot
well my 489 one
to make it neutral
LFG
🫡
hmmm pips might be a 127 dps upgrade if I swap my gems lol @bitter palm

worst 12 hours I've spent in DF
Why does ashes sim so high? but doesn't show up on a bis board anywhere
sim so high compared to what
can you link the sim please
link?
gotta be a dungeon slice or something weird
im smelling dslice ye
big sniffer
It's Dslice T.T
:her:
Lol.

@bitter palm your name is a little familiar
dude i can't get more than 20 sometimes
😭
it was like this on tindral
fps amt is skillbased
(help)
unlucky
gotta get you a new card or cpu
is it just shit pc incident or are u WA diffing yourself
I be gaming like this
idt it's pc
ye i lost my old account


im not going to pretend to understand a lot abt pc specs
WA diff
WA diff for sure
time to fresh install
i have basically the same specs but a bit worse and my fps is fine
graphic settings in wow?
can't imagine playing with settings any higher than the lowest and render scale to 80%
80$ render scale
I am very sober 
each week you dont have legendary you lose 5% pc performance
i followed some guide
idk
my fps is always bad
i even dropped my render scale to 50%
Quazii did a vid recently called 'graphics hacks' if you have issues i suggest trying his settings
I leave it at like 7 and get like 100+ fps even in raid
do you have like a million was and addons or
outside of very large pop areas
lower particle density and textures on high or mediums are kinda the same
@balmy shore
me having elvui and my ui and shit probably halves if not quarters my fps
I have 5000 weakauras 
i have the her talent background replacement weakaura
hmhh, i have it set to 4 but i don't use elvui. also for some reason a while ago ERT was causing fps drops
particle density and texture are not super impactful visually going from like high to medium
and it saves a good number of fps in my experience
Patchwork for raid, dungeon slice for M+ yeah?
@balmy shore do you have method raid tools? a bunch of guildies had tons of fps drops until they deleted mrt and reinstalled it
Patchwork is ST?
ye
❤️
ye we use ert hmm
i want to nuke elvui from ui after prog
im sure that's a big thing too
idk about my weakauras i didn't think it's excessive
why did i log on to my fury spec being broken 🤔
you don't feel alive until you play jailer p1 with no weakauras
maybe try turn off raid frames
warrior's dont need em
I wonder how many pulls an unnerfed jailer with private bombs would be
2k? Impossible?
Ah nvm you just solve it with a macro
I always wondered how Nyalotha Raden would have been without the assignments wa
don't call urself stupid
@bitter palm I lied, we take a 250dps upgrade with pips https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/soFzC2excSizbp3QJp85Lh
im not gonna do it myself, thats what y'all are here for
my rally isn't assigned rn so i need em
try uninstalling and reinstalling it, could just be a coincidence that it worked for several guildies but doesn't hurt to try
sounds like a healer problem
arms 
I was a fury stan the whole patch
I couldn't pass up a couple thousand DPS in arms tho
I think I was simming at like 242k as fury and the day arms buffs hit I played with sims and got to 249k in arms
i've played my priest for like 3 resets and got belor from the weekly
my warrior still doesn't have H augury

I've been toying with S priest
oke i try next raid night (we have like 10min left)
big fun
playing at 20fps means i can add 20 to my parse right
it seems like it owns
yeah it's very good but a hard spec to min max in big aoe as always
but I'm only like 430 and have no idea what I'm doing
also if stuff dies fast it feels like ass

yeah I had that happen in my 26 Throne last week

yeah that's crazy for that level of key lmao
didn't time 
I'm still gearing priest and i can see my overall go higher with each level of key kinda
tried my ass off
Should have reflected more dam

tfw no flame shock rng
I did get one flame shock tho

somehow the DH was mind blown that I could reflect crush
not sure if that reflects poorly on him or just shows how unpopular warrior is
oo I didnt know that
Now you know, go - do big dam
man every pack in that key has a reflect
Yep, and bosses
triple warrior Thot when?
until you pop reflect and watch someone kick it


GOD I WISH I PLAYED BROWN CLASS IN MY M+ GROUP
ToT was blizz attempt to give warr a chance to be meta
so many wasted reflects because people kick your reflect window
Can I get some leggo memes?
theres ur lego meme
i play ret :(
gross


our pink boy still hasn't gotten the lego
just get lego on both
couldn't be me
pretty sure he wants to jump off a cliff
it's wild how good it is on ret
idk why they get so much value out of the lego
i've come to terms it will come to me after prog ends
something something ret is bad they get more value with legendary
(idk)
they dont run much mastery right?
nah
only stat that doesnt scale it
cause they stack haste versa
haste vers crit
ye imagine having cds that affect trinkets or weapons
blizzard's favorite melee moment 
wild
we're getting punished for an 8 year old expansion
time to catalyze
what's the sparkle
ye removed patch so I could run lariat
when you remove an embellish
oh cute
it adds +1 sparkle
that's adorable
I was thinking about that today
I might do that or craft a second cloak
hello where servers
Impatient to get disappointed, are we?
Still no axe this is getting really dumb
So wait wait wait wait.
Looking at talent builds for M+ VS raid...It's like our tree is pretty much single target with cleave...
So just...sim patchwork all the time and apply logic with cleave?
is reset soon for eu?
yeah that's what i said earlier

I guess it just hit me how it works...like.."Wait, say what? wayment"
21 minutes ago
interesting
Tinfoil hat time, I think getting lessers and greaters basically shows blizzard that you're an active player and you're going to be playing the game regardless farming that legendary - So you don't get one. Meanwhile players who don't have as much lessers and greaters are given a legendary to make them feel special and keep them playing the game more.


you are right, that is some tinfoil hat shit
This stupid legendary makes me question why I still play this game. This is just flat out horrible design by blizzard that it hasn’t dropped for people who have killed Fyrakk every single week since its release.
i have a feeling one day they'll buff the drop rate to basically guaranteed or something
After the expansion is over, probably. If it's still going to be relevant next season.
As a general rule, what rune do we use (or is there a flat answer for that)
Hissing, typically. But I'm going to try simming different runes one of these days.
Sitting at 62% mastery without rune
should sim it, for a while 1 hissing and 1 buzzing was the best for me
Fuuuck, how do you sim runes? lol
Yeah that sounds about right
Fuck i'm an idiot, i knew that.
Honestly try playing around with food too
Vers mastery food is doing it for me
i would if it was just for sim numbers. guild provides feasts and i'm too cheap for my own food
Food is cheap af what do you mean
everything adds up, like i said i'm cheap
I think a single world quest covers a whole lot of food, lol
i've been eating food from the same stack that i bought when they first added devilsaur eggs you cant be that cheap 💀
Man, swapping to patchwork, 1 target, and simming looks SO much different.
draenor xD
nvm
i just raidlog atm
For real though, primary stat food does not sim as good as the others I've found
pair that with a flavor pocket ez pz
does elemental lariat outstrip either shadowflame or wrists at max sockets
it does for arms idk about fury
Can provide value but I wouldn't say outstrip, for fury at least.
no i know, it's a few hundred dps for me as well swapping to other food. just cba spending like a few thousand gold on food every week
flavor pocket is your friend
If you're using a flavour pocket I don't think it's going to be thousands of gold every week
2 food used in a night for raid
i'm not using a flavor pocket
1 food is enough for raid, assuming you raid 2 hours.
raid 4 hours
Fair
4 hour raid is pretty gamin
pretty chill tbh
for being a one night a week guild doin pretty good too, on T swifty
1 night a week since the start and you're on tswift? that's really good, we raid 2 and are on tswift
yep
I mean we just got to swift
killed smolderon 2 weeks ago
but the team has some real gamers, got a hunter that raids 7 days a week lmao
bro is cracked
With lockout? how? or do you mean heroic parsing
he plays multiple hunters and plays in 3 different guilds

straight gamer
100% no legendary if he plays a plate class
i feel like it's always the hunter players. psychos
Blizzard has to do nothing to retain that man
got a few dudes who are in HoF guilds and just play an alt or w/e with us
Don't have faith so you won't be heavily disappointed. Lower expectation = Less disappointment
oh and the cherry on top is the hc group I was in wiped twice
and a full leggo maugury warrior entered the group "to help" claiming "the savior had come"
"our lord" is no.5 there
fml
Confirmed, players who don't pump get a legendary to help compensate.
😦
i wish i could be a mediocre player with the leggo. Cuz then id have the leggo 
Same 
first time in a long time i feel like i resent every second i play the game
"progging" tindral doesnt help
Moral of the story is to never play a class that has an exclusive legendary for the season
never doing that again
Arms is a washed up spec this guys 20 ilvl above me (i got vines damage)
Finally got the axe at 26 BLP. I knew it would drop eventually 
should we run signet + augury in tyrannical weeks?
Signet depends entirely up to how well your group pulls or how much you want to micromanage it
if you're mostly pugging, I wouldn't bother
yo, question when its the best time to burst on tindral roots? im doing first set of flares and when i send my cds on roots/treants i feel my dmg is so low on aoe. Do i have to snipe it or wait for roots then send cds? im trying to get more dmg on roots idk why i feel im missing so much dmg
doing first set of flares is kinda of a self sabotage also but i dont want to argue and send smo else and eat more reprogress, last try we almost got him, 2%
- OF on pull
- OF on first set of roots
- full CDs on 2nd set of roots/treants
- divebomb 3rd set of roots
After that just use whichever CDs are availabe on each intermission shield or roots (if you follow above, you should have just OF on 2nd platform shield, full CDs on third, though you can switch it up if you really want to)
oh well if you're doing first set of dive bombs, you're kinda fucked; that timing really isn't good for War
in that case, probably just full send on boss at the start, and then again on 3rd set of roots
ik lol but still, the play on roots treant is better to snipe dmg or wait for it then send it?
hmm
full send on start i havent tried it yet
I'm not sure what you mean by snipe damage
you should always OF roots, there generally shouldn't be enough treants spawned to warrant saving CDs for them
prolly do the same timings as that, but dont of until you land, use of right away for boss damage, then pop all cds on second roots like normal, and odyns should come up natty for 3rd set of roots
like use cds just before the things spawn like perfectly timed to get first hit on it and kinda steal dmg from others lol
bc got 2 havoc dhs that just melt that shit
and 1 lock
I mean you should be using OF as soon as they spawn; they die fast, but its not literally instantaneous
you shouldn't be trying some funky shit where you OF before they spawn in the hopes that it'll hit at just the right second though - more likely you'll end up pre-empting and missing the damage entirely
if roots are dying that hard, then tbh you probably are better off using cds on the boss more, especially if this is a prog kill
my opener is: charge bt (hoping a enrage proc) if not of then of, then from there normal shit, first flare, land flare pot, of---- then next roots full send cds save of for next roots (2nd flares)
p2 just more of the same but i full send after shield so i get my cds for 2nd shield
i was saving before my cds thee for roots and sending it in p3 set of roots that require def cds + burst but i felt i was missing almost a full avatar cd by doing so
yeah ill try that see how much is the diff
pot looks like a waste there - use it with full CDs, not with OF on a set of adds that's already dead
if you don't wanna full CD on opener (because let's face it, Fury ST is pretty poop), you can save them for 2nd set instead and pot there - that one is usually juicy since there are also a lot of treants
Archi are you still in no axe purg too?
Guys what should i be doing on fyrakk prog? Do i send cds as soon as they come off or do i keep saving avatar and roar for shield phase?
uh i mean assuming u always have to hold dmg p1 anyway
and if shield still a problem
you prolly would save?
idk how it works tho
you can adapt to what your group needs based on when it's pushing, but pretty much send on CD
Ive been saving my 2nd avatar and 3rd roar for shield
And im doing a-lot of shield dmg but i feel like im performing worse because of it
yea i mean unless u feel like your shield is fine and boss dam p1 kinda matters like youre not making the optimal push times or something, as far as im aware you almost always have to stop dps at some point in p1 for a milk
and if ur using cds to exacerbate stopping earlier just seems kinda like a waste
Generally max damage will look something like
- use on cooldown through P1
- OF+DR intermission
- Full CD start of P2
- OF first set of adds
- OF boss solo
- full CD second set of adds w/ pot if you wanna pad a bit
- use stuff on cooldown till the boss dies
For more AoE you can full cd the first set of adds (saving Reck/Ava at the start of P2, they'll come back off CD around the time the second set of adds are dying, but you can sometimes snipe them if AoE is slow)
Or if you want boss damage, continue to full CD the start of P2 and then use your potion in P3 with hero

idk, most groups get to the point that they're overkilling the shield anyway (you either wanna push before the blaze or after, but not during or bad things happen), so I don't put much emphasis on moving CDs there
you can put Reck/Ava there if you want, but it's going to cost you a use overall (assuming you want to line it up with adds)
what is this blp thing?
i have killed fyrakk every week since week 1
and yet have not dropped it
you get a greater ember each time you kill fyrakk
i know that, im sitting on 12 greater embers now
unlucky
P1 we are legit doing too much dmg and are having to hold back so we dont get fucked on gate cd
14 fyrakk kills and still no leggo, that is not unlucky. that is zero luck
i doublt if their blp works as they say
Thanks ill keep this in mind and try it tomorrow t
The evidence is there
It works
U are just unlucky
what evidence?
In my vault, I have 3 mythic items:
Belt with vers mastand a socket
Belt with crit mastery and 300 leech
Neck with crit mast
Raidbots says the socket has biggest dps gain, but is the leech interesting for M+ / general survivability?
Are you using the embers? Or just have them in your bags
you arent gonna live or die based on 300 leech
ty
by week 11 everyone will ahve it
why should 5m have more % than 6 and kinda equal with 7
Because theyre probably still on farm and not locked out
Idk
On farm = more boss kills more chances for lessers to drop
yea i mean individual small differences not as important for killing 1 more boss or not
the general trend is going up the higher in mythic you are which can kinda make sense since youre more likely to full clear heroic every week and might often reclear early mythic until you start locking out on smolder
but even still
lol so apparently
like 28%ish percent
axe isnt even a 100% drop on mythic
feels so bad
Yes they said this no?
worst part of fullclearing hc is finding decent groups
Saw a ss the other day of 3 dropping on the group loot table lmfao
that dont run during work hours
lmfao we got the healer trinket
and caster mace
beans
3 what 3 leggo?
I gave up raiding on fyraak prog bc irl has kicked up and can’t rlly make the time every week to stay up til 1am
Yes
Is that even a thing i thought that was a myth that ppl said happened on mythic fyrakk kill
Hmm what would happen if it drops and i loot it again 
Can i dw it? Its not unique equipped 
I can’t imagine blizz would let us do that kek
You can’t do the quests again I think
yup, and I gotta pug this week!
So the minor embers are huge, then
at least the M ones
The gap between 7/9M and H is bigger than the gap between 7/9M and 9/9M
So the minors from Mythic are apparently more impactful than killing M Fyrak 💀
I wouldn't trust any of that info
even taken at face value though, it doesn't really imply that lessers are more important than greaters - ignoring the fact that lessers also drop from H, more progressed players are also more likely to ensure they kill H Fyrakk each week
i mean while yes its likely even if mythic lesser embers arent worth more than heroic ones, just having more mythic embers at the same % increase is just more % overall, and also those that are deeper and deeper into mythic are more likely to be "hardcore" players continuing to play the game, reclearing mythic unless they're hard extending on a late boss and fullclearing heroic
like psure the whole 9/9 heroic thing includes anyone thats ever done 9/9
even if you did it once at the start of the tier or something
or bought a boost once and never raided again
is why that pool is a lot lower
it would also include alts who may or may not clear regularly
it's just too broad a presentation of information to draw any tangible conclusions from, other than what we already know - that the more you do and the more embers you get, the higher your likelihood of getting the legendary is (even if it doesn't always necessarily feel like it)
but atp losing an effective like 30% roll for a nice damage upgrade is shitty, it should be more common than augury right now yet even if I didnt have augury I wouldnt care as much about aug as the legendary
going on what... 3 months now?
while aug is great it can be replaced by other trinkets to some degree, where you cant replace leggo
prolly even higher than 30 considering that chart was made in like week 9 or 10 or something
I don't know if it should be more common than Augury, lol - I would think a class specific legendary should be more rare than a even "very rare" trinket
correct way to loot it is boost a ret pally and get it the first week
no i meant by the "statistic" of around 30% of people at 7/9 mythic have the legendary, tho i guess maybe wouldnt apply as much thinking about it cuz its just kinda accumulating luck over the weeks, and im sure at least 30% people have augury that want it at 7/9
Just an unbelievably terrible gaming experience. I have run an absurd number of HC runs and mythic bosses to get this thing for what... 2 weeks of relevant playtime?
yea
sub position on bait metric
I mean you don't need it really
Just look at critcake he's doing high m+ without it
Surely it's more damage but it's not needed
I'm only saying that cause I have it ans don't have to struggle to get it

Their team depletes keys to damage
i mean especially in critcakes case competing at like the highest of levels, im sure he doesnt need it to be top 10 or anything but pmuch any attempt to get close to r1 is just pointless cuz everyone else has it
Him not having it is really bad
its like a free 20k dps a key at least
What keys 30s?
Yea
no one "needs" the legendary like no one "needs" the best in slot trinkets at 489 item level

but youre sure as hell not beating the next guy who has those things
yo does anyone have the math on 2x BSL vs 2x Shadow patch? im only doing 20s and vibing so BSL uptime is insane does it bring in more dmg than me running 2 patches?
Yea no ofc ur not
Love doing 45k dps worth of items on st
Simply get both
hey look a 2nd gorehowl
Patch is shit in aoe
i noticed
Unique equipped btw
its not noticable
oh right
so im wondering if BSL with giga uptime is worth alot more
i dont need 2nd weapon anyway im armser
Yea I'm transitioning to arms too
week whatever the fuck it is now, first time i see a myth weapon in vault. We are so back bois
Loot lego
i will

its the week
It's ninas week I can feel it
it is a terrible experience knowing people are getting it from LFR but I'm a dozen HC kills in and nothing
Or when I see people looting it on their Healer alt
Won't you be able to use it for next season too or what happen next season with it
we dont know
who cares? S4 isn't a real season. I wanted it for a relevant one with a CE achievement and invested player base
Cause they cant just make it useless for us csn they
Season 4 will he fun
i imagine it would work like sylvanas bow
Gonna be arms enjoyer
season 4 will be fun
or whatever you could upgrade in SL S4
gonna be destro enjoyer
Destro Chad
And it has nothing to do with "not needing it". It's boiling over frustration knowing their "deterministic" drop system is bullshit

it would be nice getting leggo in the season it was introduced tho
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