p1 dispell check got lowered and you can phase infinitely earlier now no
#fury
warm crag
amber arch
also heres the overall
upbeat sentinel
Gaining like 80k dps in a month is crazy
oblique trail
p1 dispell check got lowered and you can phase infinitely earlier now no
Think we phase at like 2:40 or something
But defo not optimised DPS at all for it
desert cloud
Are people still arguing that fury is better than ret ?
plush ice
so, as the healers learn, less random people will die, but like the healers are dispelling off a WA anyways
amber arch
Are people still arguing that fury is better than ret ?
ST ya
calm mantle
also heres the overall
Was this before or after pally buffs tho?
chrome plover
yeah critcake actually won in overall here 
meager void
also heres the overall
You know critcake is good but he aint like warrior jesus or something.
wild mural
yeah critcake actually won in overall here <a:chatting:1036769769543704576>
Is that SL
meager void
Lool
warm crag
Think we phase at like 2:40 or something
like into p2 or into intermission
warm crag
you can phase him after or before 2nd dream rend
oblique trail
I've seen @mossy fox use his Might of the Ocean on its own with no CDs before he's no longer my idol
shy knot
also heres the overall
Pally sold in that
oblique trail
like into p2 or into intermission
into intermission
wild mural
Fury owns
shy knot
Lowest Ive seen that guy do
warm crag
that doesnt seem right
oblique trail
It is not right
chrome plover
I've seen <@235809563490779136> use his Might of the Ocean on its own with no CD...
snitch
oblique trail
Because a lot are still figuring out how to actually do damage on the fight
upbeat sentinel
hit boss
plush ice
like thats even after the circles you would put more at mid
i dont even know what happens after that
warm crag
i mean it is correct pre nerf
wild mural
I still don’t have a hero track Rezans
warm crag
post nerf if everyone has dps optimized you will be holding dps for 10-20 seconds which is Not Fun
wild mural
(Misinformation I have it on my ret)
oblique trail
warm crag
cds
plush ice
just phase him affter one of the thing a ma jig
oblique trail
ok maybe more than 3 times
plush ice
oh man, that would suck, we def arn't holding
oblique trail
I spread misinformation
plush ice
like, why do you need to hold for cds
upbeat sentinel
post nerf if everyone has dps optimized you will be holding dps for 10-20 second...
I don't hold DPS sir
plush ice
oh
warm crag
not our cds
upbeat sentinel
I just consistently do my shit dps
warm crag
sub needs somewhat specific timers
amber arch
thats 6 days ago after ret pally buffs and leggo
plush ice
we dont hold and our healers are fine
i mean, subs dmg dosnt' matter until like 3 min in
no ones dmg does
warm crag
i mean yeah its not necessary to kill the boss but if you want to optimize 100% you probably? want to hold
warm crag
funteinrally
plush ice
now, i mean, i guess dependisn on what you are doing w/ hero
we are still hero'ing last phase
amber arch
theres last boss of DHT
plush ice
i guess if you are doing diff stuff to hero p2, which is prob more correct
amber arch
thats my last screenshot promise
plush ice
but yea know, diff groups still going to do it diff ways
warm crag
werent all the p2 add hps nerfed
plush ice
yeah, but thats just like, a qol thing i think
shy knot
Thats about what Id expect
plush ice
like, your'e still were only getting one set of flame dude mechanics
and thats the part that matters
eternal sundial
werent all the p2 add hps nerfed
Ye
warm crag
i mean then you wouldnt lust p2 ever
plush ice
oh i mean
you def do it now
assuming you can break the shield w/ just a few cds
the problem for groups progging it now
is that how much time do you devote to figurioing out what little you need to break the shiled
esp since the ending is easier anyways
amber arch
Thats about what Id expect
so if they both had leggo, fury would be ahead of ret in ST. Also ret probably did way less boss damage since he probably AOE the adds
plush ice
i think right now its about 50 / 50 for groups hero'ing p2 or p3
but i think if you dont mind spending the time ffiguring the shield out, its way better to hero p2
because then he comes down, you lust w/ pot and basically all your cds except the few you needed for the shield
and you blast him to kingdom come w/ nothign else going on
eternal sundial
Aha
shy knot
so if they both had leggo, fury would be ahead of ret in ST. Also ret probably d...
Prolly we’ll see when he gets it
amber arch
ok so weve established that one of the best fury's consistantly beats one of the best rets in boss fights in keys even without the legendary, ret being S tier. along with rogue and DH. Im convinced we beat BM, rogue as well. maybe not DH
from personal experience. but im not digging up videos anymore lol
upbeat sentinel
Idk that "The best of this class slightly beats the best of this class" is representative of the experience of the majority of the playerbase
calm mantle
@amber arch Are all of these things you've shown before or after the Ret pally buff? Because they were quite doodoo in ST before buff. (From what I've been told by Ret pally friends)
upbeat sentinel
Are they better than us in ST now or about the same?
calm mantle
I think evenly geared we should still be slightly ahead.
Ofc it comes down to player as well since you know, you can suck at your rotation xD
warm crag
in pure st ret is like 260k no
shy knot
Being slightly ahead in ST and fucked in big aoes isnt a nice place imo
Bring s2 already
mossy fox
I've seen <@235809563490779136> use his Might of the Ocean on its own with no CD...
fatfinger is too strong sometimes
upbeat sentinel
im gonna base my entire opinion on M Volocross logs
oblique trail
fatfinger is too strong sometimes
My idol would never fatfinger..
upbeat sentinel
ret is better than us
shy knot
ret is better than us
Yep
meager void
ok so weve established that one of the best fury's consistantly beats one of the...
This is pseudoscience, you need double-blind tests here for sure.
calm mantle
buff us NOW
We don't need buffs, we have too much utility to make up for our lack of DPS
meager void
I fat fingered once my orb assignment in Smoldy and I still get nightmares
meager void
Brez-Lust shout is what we lack
upbeat sentinel
Brez-Lust shout is what we lack
Yeah we should have a shout that just brezzes everyone and only counts as 1 brez
would balance us out
calm mantle
Brez-Lust shout is what we lack
Honestly lust could suit us, just name it something like "Berserk"
meager void
Scream so much, dead people just rise.
clever path
surely mages dont already bring it
upbeat sentinel
Yeah we need smth unique, like a SECOND LUST THAT STACKS ON THE FIRST
meager void
Temper Tantrum
upbeat sentinel
Bring back Gladiator Warrior
meager void
Fury needs mortal strike
wild mural
buff us NOW
BUFF US NOW
calm mantle
@clever path Yes they bring lust, but it would give us a chance to fill that last dps slot that everyones trying to fill with Lust. It might make a small difference trying to pug.
upbeat sentinel
no dont buff ret
eternal sundial
Yeah we need smth unique, like a SECOND LUST THAT STACKS ON THE FIRST
something unique
Recommends a mage thing
meager void
AugWarrior spec
wild mural
We need something unique like a 400% aura buff
eternal sundial
And a horribly designed failure of that mage thing
warm crag
We need something unique like a 400% aura buff
scaling
calm mantle
I would say give us an AOE Cheat death, but that would suit deathknights better I think.
eternal sundial
TW is horrible
eternal sundial
I would say give us an AOE Cheat death, but that would suit deathknights better...
Give us more damage xd
Nothing else matters
upbeat sentinel
Yeah I'd eat another nerf to Rally for more DPS
upbeat sentinel
honestly just remove rally and give us a 10% damage buff instead
shy knot
Remove cap
upbeat sentinel
seems fair
shy knot
Or push it to 10
wild mural
Remove target cap
upbeat sentinel
na push it to 7 with Unholy
calm mantle
Cleave does damage beyond 5 targets at a reduced rate please.
shy knot
Yeah move it to 10
rigid stirrup
If we get 10 I'll actually be content with war at that state
calm mantle
Our cleave is 100% damage to 4 targets right? I just hit things I don't actually read if it's reduced or not.
upbeat sentinel
No its like 55% or smth
rigid stirrup
Doing 27+ and only having 4 target feels noticeably bad
oblique trail
If it was 100% then Fury would be insane
eternal sundial
Our cleave is 100% damage to 4 targets right? I just hit things I don't actually...
55%
1 to 1 ratio on cleaving is not fair
calm mantle
Buff to 75% and I'll be happy
upbeat sentinel
Then you sacrifice 1 in 5 GCDs to do it, so your total output is, by my head math, 300%ish of ST at max
rigid stirrup
Our cleave is 100% damage to 4 targets right? I just hit things I don't actually...
If only we got the frost dk treatment
oblique trail
Buff to 75% and Arms has no reason to exist
calm mantle
Good, I don't play arms anyways, delete the spec and buff fury.
calm mantle
Arms reason to exist is arenas
Arm's reason to exist is so we have a better loot spec for fury
upbeat sentinel
thats also true
How tf are we gonna have a spec that's the only one in the game to lug around 2 giant 2handers
and not play it
rigid stirrup
Arms gets uncapped and bleeds to go with it just make fury high cap T_T
sour frigate
Then you sacrifice 1 in 5 GCDs to do it, so your total output is, by my head ma...
Overall its not cuz u also have roar and of which have bigger cap
rigid stirrup
Hopefully that changes with a choice node on TWW
eternal sundial
Arms also just turbo beats fury on 2
upbeat sentinel
Overall its not cuz u also have roar and of which have bigger cap
i still think our AoE sustain is prob 300% of ST
eternal sundial
calm mantle
Arms is gigachad
Wouldn't know, never played. Tho I heard they slapping in Raid ST atm.
upbeat sentinel
ya raid ST they bodybag us
eternal sundial
Wouldn't know, never played. Tho I heard they slapping in Raid ST atm.
Try it
Arm good
upbeat sentinel
it helps that their full damage calculation comes from the lege as opposed to only 66% of their damage calculation
high ilvl wep = very good
sour frigate
After sl non spear arms isnt canon for me
eternal sundial
Arms isnt 6head dw
upbeat sentinel
i cant think of many specs that are 6head
sour frigate
Arms literally 1 more button
eternal sundial
Doesn't like a spec but has never tried it
Me when i hate sin rogue
calm mantle
Arms literally 1 more button
More then 4 buttons?
upbeat sentinel
specs are not built to be v complex anymore
eternal sundial
More then 4 buttons?
Ms op exe slam
rigid stirrup
I'd play arms if raid and m+ builds didn't have two totally different playstyles
eternal sundial
I'd play arms if raid and m+ builds didn't have two totally different playstyles
That's the fun part?
shy knot
Arms is ez
oblique trail
You can play the same build almost in both
eternal sundial
You get actual choice
upbeat sentinel
what you underestimate is most players dont want choice
they just want to smash things
shy knot
Just their def toolkit sucks kinda
calm mantle
Okay guys, I'll make a deal with you all..... I'll try Arms when I get my Legendary.
eternal sundial
Just their def toolkit sucks kinda
Lol
sour frigate
Okay guys, I'll make a deal with you all..... I'll try Arms when I get my Legend...
Good luck 
upbeat sentinel
Okay guys, I'll make a deal with you all..... I'll try Arms when I get my Legend...
calm mantle
LOL
eternal sundial
they just want to smash things
Your spec doesnt get to cast execute 30 times back to back
sour frigate
rigid stirrup
How many here had to switch to arms for echo last season
open prairie
you can still press dstance as fury
calm mantle
you can still press dstance as fury
I do this... when I accidently fat finger the wrong skill.
rigid stirrup
Dstance in high keys is actually the diff
rigid stirrup
Also does anyone have a stance swap macro or know the comand for it
open prairie
and pretend you dont press slam
eternal sundial
How many here had to switch to arms for echo last season
I played arms on last 2 as they were just better arms bosses
sour frigate
you can prob make a slam macro with rb icon
I couldn't dfind
silent burrow
you can prob make a slam macro with rb icon
It's literally in the pins lol
eternal sundial
No shot u look at ur bars
My spear icon is starsurge and i wouldnt even know if i hadnt changed it to new name recently
silent burrow
I don't even name my macros
eternal sundial
The boss macros are all named appropriately
Echo is dogshitboss and smold is rancidboss and fyrakk isnt a thing anymore
calm mantle
Oh question, how many of you using a BT/Rampage macro? Someone suggested I macro it to the one key but I never tried it.
shy knot
Its so perfectly spammy
eternal sundial
Oh question, how many of you using a BT/Rampage macro? Someone suggested I macro...
No need
wet notch
what kind of maintenance takes 2 hours o.O
shy knot
Arms is perfect pvp spec
silent burrow
Arms be spamming too lol
shy knot
Yeah but in a clunky way
oblique trail
Fury is already simple enough for you to never need to use that macro
And it leaves room for error that you otherwise wouldn't have
shy knot
S2 arms was better in this it flowed kinda nice
calm mantle
what kind of maintenance takes 2 hours o.O
The kind that drives us mad.
rigid stirrup
what kind of maintenance takes 2 hours o.O
Not me having to actually get work done 😦
wild mural
what kind of maintenance takes 2 hours o.O
Na beta testers
nocturne dragon
The kind that drives us mad.
I am already madge with the no augury every week 
calm mantle
I am already madge with the no augury every week <:sadge:820202363359854633>
I'm madge my main has an LFR one. My Alt at least got a normal one so 483.
nocturne dragon
I mean at least you still got lfr version, I got nothin'
calm mantle
Fair, LFR still puts in work.
clever path
My spear icon is starsurge and i wouldnt even know if i hadnt changed it to new ...
i have a macro for spear roar and its warrior class icon
eternal sundial
i have a macro for spear roar and its warrior class icon
I have the 2 on diff keybinds
Lobozpilled
clever path
Bring loboz back
open prairie
when do you play both together
clever path
when do you play both together
loboz build
ultra max pad build
bro was bursting for 2mil on gnarlroot
open prairie
why that belt not match
clever path
why that belt not match
its not me
its loboz
dont you dare questioning lord allmighty loboz fashion and style
wet notch
you are looking at loboz mog wrong. He wears mog to match him not to match mog.
ember apex
tf r u guys talking about
white cedar
who tf is loboz
wet notch
WAHT!
white cedar
and what is this loboz build
clever path
heretic detected
wet notch
leave
ember apex
who tf is loboz
LMAO
wet notch
loboz is everywhere and no where at the same time.
white cedar
lol
clever path
google has completely diff results
LoBoz sounds quiet hip tbf
funk and groove based rock n roll
wtf is that
on their website on gallery
acoustic furnace
Honestly sucks being geared. My only two upgrades come from Vault or a mythic Fyrakk kill.
How make game fun again?
oblique trail
play alts
clever path
make a paladin
acoustic furnace
My alt is a Prot paladin lol
floral bough
play healer
clever path
make it work
acoustic furnace
Healing scares me
calm mantle
Honestly sucks being geared. My only two upgrades come from Vault or a mythic Fy...
Make a second warrior, enjoy the pain of regearing and farming trinkets all over again.
clever path
Dont be afraid
heres my guide on how to play heal
if peopel start dying just leave group and find new pug
ember apex
servers prob coming up soon, they just took all of them down to reboot
usually <10min
acoustic furnace
Make a second warrior, enjoy the pain of regearing and farming trinkets all over...
Warrior gearing was surprisingly easy for me. Had Might/Brand like week 4. Vaults have been good to me.
Trying to gear my rogue was fuckin awful though 0/10 do not recommend I hate playing rogue
acoustic furnace
I've got a 483 brand. Progging smoldy tonight so hopefully it's gonna turn into a 489 here soon.
So I lied there are THREE upgrades I can get I forgot ab the ilvl upgrade to my brand. Then I need 489 neck from BRH and a 489 belt from Waycrest.
AKA RNJesus must shine his light up on me.
ember apex
i mean u just get almost any 489 belt and u can move stats around w/ missives on crafted items
and enchants
unless u already have a 489 belt
in which case yeah ur looking for a specific one
acoustic furnace
Yeah but I want the one with perfect stats for me. I'll take anything sure but 489 Greatbelt of Disruption would provide maximum dopamine.
calm mantle
Warrior gearing was surprisingly easy for me. Had Might/Brand like week 4. Vault...
My main was a bit of a nightmare, but my Alt had Brand, might, rezans week 2.Tho I no lifed that alt consider it was 480 in 2 weeks.
open prairie
brand is overhyped
wild mural
Come take it
river reef
Come take it
can I take you instead 
calm mantle
I also have a 489 Greatbelt of disruption on my main c:
wild mural
can I take you instead <:peepoBlush:818323879315505233>
Yep 
acoustic furnace
Damn bro avoidance too? Crazy. I don't get NOTHIN' (Except for Augury, Lego, Brand, and every single farmable trinket from this season).
wild mural
I don’t have augury yet
vague copper
Leggo?
acoustic furnace
Legendary axe
wild mural
acoustic furnace
Fyr'alath
vague copper
Well ..!..
warm crag
noober
acoustic furnace
I'm running double crafted rings and I feel no shame over it. Makes moving stats around so much easier than having to farm more.
ember apex
if u have so many achievmeent points u think the transmog would be better
almost looks like full set NGL
but idk what set that is
ember apex
cap?
wild mural
25k isn’t a lot of achievement points
acoustic furnace
My half naked hairy dwarf man looks better sorry not sorry
wild mural
I just like t3
ember apex
25k isn’t a lot of achievement points
i mean i go out of my way to get them and im at 22k
so
open prairie
same
wild mural
i mean i go out of my way to get them and im at 22k
I’ve been playing 14 years
open prairie
needs a better tabard though
ember apex
oh i started in shadowlands
well bfa technically but after they announced shadowlands i was like this looks sick
open prairie
crafted rings are good
wild mural
needs a better tabard though
I like it
sullen dove
time for leggo first global
calm mantle
I'm proud of my achievement points.
sullen dove
i will surely not be let down for the 15th week in a row
open prairie
esp since free socket
wild mural
I'm running double crafted rings and I feel no shame over it. Makes moving stats...
My stats are decent if something was wrong I’d craft a ring to fix but they’re ok atm without
open prairie
i will surely not be let down for the 15th week in a row
did servers go up
robust widget
i will surely not be let down for the 15th week in a row
sullen dove
ye
ember apex
not yet
nocturne dragon
I'm proud of my achievement points.
I am proud of your guild name
perfectly sums our situation
iron portal
I'm proud of my achievement points.
I would be proud of that guild name
calm mantle
dont do dungeons
The Depression comes from no Lego. the Dungeons just makes it worse.
ember apex
omg
open prairie
look again bud
pug key on meter?
sullen dove
ya
open prairie
vdhs second on dam
robust widget
look again bud
every single keybind is wrong 
open prairie
reminds me of 2 dh keys i did yesterday
open prairie
except the dps were all over 480 ilvl
ember apex
geared players with low dps makes me so sad
robust widget
also you have unspent prof knowledge
wild mural
geared players with low dps makes me so sad
Do I make you sad
robust widget
incase you didnt know
open prairie
@sullen dove warrior was 484 and sp was 483
unreal onyx
cool augury
open prairie
483 with getting PI on cd
wild mural
cool augury
Thanks bae
ember apex
Do I make you sad
idk i never played w/ u my entire life
unreal onyx
I haven't gotten an upgrade in weeks
warm crag
noob
wild mural
Does delete refer to what he should do to his character
covert blaze
this was arguably worse
What dungeon
calm mantle
Socket angle sadge, no Aug :c
ember apex
wait i got a 489 rezans
amber arch
RIP boys
amber arch
im just getting cloaks
nocturne dragon
Fair, LFR still puts in work.
thank you for curing my depression
ember apex
im gonna sim but what u guys think is better heroic aug + normal signet or heroic aug + 489 reznas
calm mantle
thank you for curing my depression
Thank you for adding to mine....
olive wraith
Ayyyyy Gratz on Aug
open prairie
What dungeon
galakronds fall
wild mural
thank you for curing my depression
Can’t wait for mine tomorrow
robust widget
im gonna sim but what u guys think is better heroic aug + normal signet or heroi...
depends on the fight length
unreal onyx
how is everyone getting fucking heroic signet brand
how do you not have one
unreal onyx
im gonna sim but what u guys think is better heroic aug + normal signet or heroi...
5min+ propably signet, anything under propably rezan
but that's guesstimating
unreal onyx
I'd use signet
cunning zodiac
can I loot the legendary in tank spec?
unreal onyx
personally
unreal onyx
can I loot the legendary in tank spec?
yes
oblique trail
can I loot the legendary in tank spec?
yes
robust widget
can I loot the legendary in tank spec?
yes
cunning zodiac
sick
oblique trail
It doesn't care about your loot spec
cunning zodiac
thanks
ember apex
we're halfway done w/ platform 3 so it should die this week def next
unreal onyx
p3 is kind of a clusterfuck imo
ember apex
how do you not have one
unreal onyx
do you skip 2nd team 2 flyers?
ember apex
shits crazy out here
open prairie
worse if you pugged tbh
covert blaze
no augury again time to delete character
open prairie
group loot is so goofy
ember apex
do you skip 2nd team 2 flyers?
no we have had to focus on optimizng ST boss dam
unreal onyx
I love shitty wcl boosting ads
open prairie
why are you allowed to roll on slots you have higher of
unreal onyx
what does this ad even mean
open prairie
I love shitty wcl boosting ads
where ublock
ember apex
yeah how do u not have ublock lmao
simple cedar
my guildies are trolling me. is it true only 3 legos can drop ato nce?
robust widget
what does this ad even mean
selling the transmogs
calm mantle
Alt warrior vault also disgustingly bad.
unreal onyx
my guildies are trolling me. is it true only 3 legos can drop ato nce?
they indeed are trolling you
iron portal
Think that most expensive is old Scholomance tmog
unreal onyx
Alt warrior vault also disgustingly bad.
signet fuck good still
calm mantle
signet fuck good still
Second ring uses flavor pocket so don't wanna replace.
wild mural
I love shitty wcl boosting ads
Cause you need it?
boreal solstice
Just rerolled last week for mythic smoldy cause our warrior had to take a break and this vault is a struggle
ember apex
$600 wtf
calm mantle
Not worth taking with my current rings right? Unless I plan to tank maybe?
boreal solstice
when I top gear it might of the ocean doesnt even show up
but I would have thought that would be the best up
covert blaze
Just rerolled last week for mythic smoldy cause our warrior had to take a break ...
clearly a might angle
ember apex
might of the ocean is an aoe trinket
boreal solstice
clearly a might angle
yeah I thought it would be might but axe has leech too so I'm into that
ember apex
u dont take that in ST fights or hard fights like tindral or fyrakk
thorn venture
Heh.
boreal solstice
yeah the main focus is smoldy prog so I guess I don't take it
smoky prawn
can i trade aspect to wyrms?
unreal onyx
but I would have thought that would be the best up
it is bis in m+
oblique trail
yes
smoky prawn
where is that
smoky prawn
yea idc which rate tbh lol
rigid stirrup
we love speed
oblique trail
by the upgrader
ember apex
pog
boreal solstice
it is bis in m+
Yeah this late in the season I"m just rerolling warrior to help with prog so M+ isn't my main consideration
calm mantle
we love speed
Shave off a few seconds in m+ by running faster.
covert blaze
yeah I thought it would be might but axe has leech too so I'm into that
You can get a 489 weapon easily, might is a bis item you can only get from vault
unreal onyx
you can't get a weapon easily
ember apex
i agree u take 489 trinkets all day
unreal onyx
if you are extending on smoldy
ember apex
craft a 486, thats good enough
covert blaze
extending smolderon 💀
rigid stirrup
Shave off a few seconds in m+ by running faster.
489 ilvl now doe!
warm crag
extending smolderon 💀
if you're a low hour guild this is probably fine
calm mantle
489 ilvl now doe!
woo gratz, Still stuck at 486 :c
rigid stirrup
my guilds a 2 night one and we extended after we got to smolderon a third time
ember apex
same but we raid for 3 hrs / night for 2 nights not 2 hrs
boreal solstice
if you're a low hour guild this is probably fine
We raid 4 hours a week I'm very fine with being locked out on smoldy
south kayak
gamers
warm crag
is that 2x2 or 1x4
calm mantle
Is branch of tormented trinket worth taking from vault?
warm crag
depends on what you have
calm mantle
Only other thing is a socket, but I already have my socket for my last ring.
warm crag
bag sockets are still good
i severely doubt you're literally bis with all potential items
boreal solstice
is that 2x2 or 1x4
2x2
warm crag
2 hour raids is crazy
celest sierra
question my fellow fury warriors - a 489 whitefin axe> 483 gorehowl?
boreal solstice
we go longer sometimes but we have people in hawaii and people in PEI canada
so that's like our window lol
calm mantle
i severely doubt you're literally bis with all potential items
Oh I'm not, i guess I'll bag socket for now and socket my 483 ring.
ember apex
question my fellow fury warriors - a 489 whitefin axe> 483 gorehowl?
yeah for weapons
you want ilvl
warm crag
overtime police ⏰
ember apex
i hate OT policing
warm crag
i have overtimers
warm crag
how about you stick to your advertised raid hours you little bitch man
ember apex
too much fun for u
south kayak
sheesh
warm crag
ye
red peak
I was trying to convince a paladin that a mythic weapon was better than his champion gorehowl
Apparently I was wrong
covert blaze
i have overtimers
so true bestie
clever path
I love shitty wcl boosting ads
what is wcl?
ember apex
thats the opposite of u
unreal onyx
what is wcl?
warcraftlogs
oblique trail
I was trying to convince a paladin that a mythic weapon was better than his cham...
I hate doing damage
This is why I play my warrior still despite having no orange weapon instead of comitting to an alt that doesn't need it
red peak
Not sure if serious. Gif
stoic star
Would it be of any benefit to full clear on heroic to Tindral for the BLP tokens. Then go kill normal Fyrakk, and Heroic Fyrakk?
red peak
Also no orange here
stoic star
Would you get 2 chances at it?
red peak
Apparently yiu only need to do the hardest one
stoic star
Well yeah but im saying could you technically get it in normal and then also get a chance in heroic at a higher drop rate?
red peak
Do it in heroic and it does your normal and rf rolls at the same time.
Apparently
covert blaze
Would you get 2 chances at it?
no
oblique trail
No one 100% knows how it works but presumably killing Normal and using that BLP token would just increase your Normal chance next week
Heroic however just does all the rolls at once
covert blaze
it would make no sense for blp drops to work for the current week
weary iron
are you guys usually running dancing blades during tyran weeks?
oblique trail
I believe in you
frozen mirage
What should I parse on Animated Duelist-target dummy as 485ilvl if Raidbots give me 229k sim. I can't tell if I'm bad or not.
storm rune
229k
oblique trail
Yeah you do not hit 229k on a dummy
Just do a target dummy sim
Then compare with that with no consumes
storm rune
Dummies you should be within a few thousand DPS of sim target
oblique trail
There is one in the pins
rigid stirrup
ayy i see it ty
storm rune
True, if you're simming full raid buff that'd be wrong, but just adjust for the buffs you are actually using
restive peak
do you have a macro for dstance switch in keys?
Sry bruh went to get a drink, but ye what Banezi said
frozen mirage
I will, because atm I'm on 203k
wanton mirage
Shit wowhead weekly dps log putting us in top5 of raid. We will be definitely not getting buff... xD
covert blaze
And surely I get leggo this week guiz
today is your day bestie
frozen mirage
Shit wowhead weekly dps log putting us in top5 of raid. We will be definitely no...
I call bs, just a lot of padding I hope, oterhwise I'm even worse Warrior thhan I thought
oblique trail
It's not bs
Fury is just good for the raid
But people refuse to believe it because of that weekly article
frozen mirage
I need excuses, okay?
clever path
Frost dk pumping
frozen mirage
When I removed raid buffs on Raidbots except Battle Shout and potion/hissing/phial/well fed it now shows 194k instead of 229k. But on dummy I parsed 203k so I guess dummy is weaker?
sullen dove
game is so dogshit its unbelievable
irredeemable
trash
at least the game decided for me that i will continue to raidlog as i have been the last 2 months
and continue enjoying sod
dire vigil
game is so dogshit its unbelievable
No leggo again? :/
dire vigil
Fkn hell dude
I think I’m the only warrior in the top 10 m+ score on bleeding hollow without it
☹️
clever path
lul saw the delete
How many kills you have ?
sullen dove
i mean.. ive killed him on heroic every week since the raid came out
white fractal
is there a sod channel here?
sullen dove
got semi carried the first time but doesnt matter leggo wasnt available then anyway
#vanilla-discussion maybe but idk how many ppl use it for that
fervent bough
glad I got that out of the way early
flat sapphire
I think that's another xxiscord
sullen dove
glad I got that out of the way early
at least we can stop pretending like theres anything to be hopeful for in this god forsaken abomination of a game for the week 
restive peak
today is your day bestie
❤️
sullen dove
and play the better version being season of discovery
clever path
Do you guys ever use tab targeting ?
sullen dove
yea
unless its like relatively high m+ where its important you stop your own mob and you make special macros
tab targetting generally pretty good at locking onto mobs that are casting if youre looking at em
olive wraith
It’s also likely they get added to your “pool” on pickup
warm crag
source: i made it the fuck up
calm mantle
Only 1 lego dropped in my group :c and the guy who got it rolled a 99 on Augury as well....
clever path
it was his day
calm mantle
It was indeed.
shy knot
glad I got that out of the way early
Now log next wednesday
forest owl
Only 1 lego dropped in my group :c and the guy who got it rolled a 99 on Augury ...
funny thing that i saw a russian pally get it last week and also won augury, some have all the luck
red berry
another week no legendary
im going fucking insane
how many months has it beenh at this point
clever path
how many months has it beenh at this point
12 weeks ?
13?
calm mantle
another week no legendary
I'm with you :c
ember apex
at what point do u guys start submitting tickets
ember apex
naturally
meager void
Its been stuck for like 4 weeks for me.
restive peak
Right, fuckin annoying
meager void
Might have something to do with me being still in Smoldy's loincloth hell
restive peak
Nah man I did a reclear + CE and nothing
The dmg/rankings have updated, but points remain like 130 short
It's so weird
restive peak
Ye this is week 13
restive peak
And I got it on my ret on 2nd heroic kill, no other heroic bosses. Going into 4 mythic reclears+1 CE+12 full heroic clears on warr
Surely today
meager void
That ember is a toy, temporary mog
meager void
And its the exact same effect as the toy you can get from within the Dream.
ionic mortar
is there a max number of lessers you can get per week?
dire vigil
Max would be one from gnarlroot-tindral on HC and Mythic
meager void
is there a max number of lessers you can get per week?
Just Fyrakk HC and forget about it
wild mural
man buff fury
covert blaze
man buff fury
this but unironically
wild mural
Im so annoyed that wasn't a kill
meager void
Those names give off Ragnaros energy
wild mural
why do ppl suck at smolderon
clever path
is this lfr?
wild mural
nah heroic
unreal onyx
wild mural
getting 2 more vault slots
meager void
Azralon crowd there.
wild mural
for the augury that doesn't exist
proud vessel
Is coming week considered a 'push' week?
final birch
proud vessel
Couldnt really play last week sadly
storm rune
2 back to back push weeks
Not me getting my first dungeon of last week in 2 hours before reset
wild mural
I should do some keys
wild mural
na beta testers
covert blaze
test dn
wild mural
bet
covert blaze
hollow elk
Heh
wild mural
arm
hollow elk
Ssss
balmy shore
how many lessers do ppl have
hoary dock
21
wild mural
I prefer to refer to them as my colleagues or subordinates
unreal onyx
lessers are a government conspiracy
clever path
how many lessers do ppl have
all of them
frosty skiff
Is anyone running elemental lariat that can tell me how much better it is in endgame?
ionic mortar
Just Fyrakk HC and forget about it
wait really? the lessers don't do anything?
clever path
Is anyone running elemental lariat that can tell me how much better it is in end...
it isnt
deft ridge
nobody knows anything about what embers do
clever path
on st
meager void
wait really? the lessers don't do anything?
The mental-health consensus is that all possible BLP is factored into your HC Fyrakk kill.
Doing more doesn't lower your chances, but it doesnt increase em either
there's no 100% clear blue post to back it up. Its just a sorta Skyhold consensus
clever path
Skyhold concensus is that legendary acquisition sucks balls
gilded pawn
its up to you
meager void
Purrty much.
meager void
Skyhold concensus is that legendary acquisition sucks balls
Truth.
young swan
clever path
wild mural
Skyhold concensus is that legendary acquisition sucks balls
i got it
kekw
the system works
silent burrow
I ain't done a key in a hot minute, still blastin tho
restive peak
I didn't get leggo again on warr, can confirm basically quit my warr besides reclears
It's pretty frustrating
gilded pawn
I ain't done a key in a hot minute, still blastin tho
been making bbq or what
how much money did yall make during super bowl
silent burrow
Yeah lol lots of bbq
jolly mist
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rnDYcKdSEbozw3SLw8x9AH
what else is there to upgrade aside from ilv on tier pieces?
silent burrow
few thousand for superbowl. We also stockpiled a bunch of sausage as well during prep for it
jolly mist
i feel like im kinda simmin quite low for having lego?
silent burrow
I'll post a couple pics in ot
wild mural
sosig
dire vigil
I still enjoy pushing keys without axe but man, it would be fun to build some stacks and slice and dice prio mobs and bosses with it.
barren dagger
Real chads collect embers
nocturne dragon
now do I want to work on this though I heard it's giga expensive
last dragon
clever path
now do I want to work on this though I heard it's giga expensive
was around 150k for me
last week
prob around the same
covert blaze
Axekandi quit?
probably got embarrased
wild mural
pugging specific raid bosses on hc on tuesday sucks
unreal onyx
who would've guessed
unreal onyx
I gave up on hc augury
unreal onyx
I am fine with my nm leech one
clever path
i hate it so much
wild mural
I asked a group leader to put me in the same group as the enhancement sham, got called trash by the tank, who then couldn't hold aggro from me to save his life and nearly immediately wiped the group
clever path
i really want a 489 ember so i can perma use that
clever path
I asked a group leader to put me in the same group as the enhancement sham, got ...
bro smolderon pugs are impossible
wild mural
bro smolderon pugs are impossible
This was on council
clever path
council too
dire vigil
If I don’t see mostly 2800+ io in HC pugs, I leave
clever path
same and they are still shit
dire vigil
I want efficiency, not re-prog
oblique trail
probably got embarrased
the parses incident
wild mural
unreal onyx
I love applying to a key with a semi-decent (2900+ io) player listing and then joining to see his 460 ilvl 500io friend that wants a free boost
wild mural
real
oblique trail
I've personally been that 460 ilvl person a few times now and have consistently done the same, or higher, dps as the 480s who'd join
clever path
i love when a 3700 rio player applies to my key and then is perma dead to trash as vdh in fall 28
wild mural
yeah I've been the rat in some keys
wild mural
and beaten the big bois
sullen dove
probably got embarrased
crazy that bro took what belte said to heart he’s like, axekandi 2 I feel like
dire vigil
How do u have 3700 io and have grey parse in raid?
dire vigil
crazy that bro took what belte said to heart he’s like, axekandi 2 I feel like
What happened?
clever path
cause he plays vdh
sullen dove
not that he was wrong either way like a grey highest parse after 5 kills on fyrakk something’s going wrong there
clever path
u have 96% parry chance and 19 million hp
sullen dove
idk they just were bickering a bit and then belte brought up the “is this you” log page
covert blaze
crazy that bro took what belte said to heart he’s like, axekandi 2 I feel like
at least belte plays the game
sullen dove
does he
covert blaze
idk how do people die as vdh
forgor to press demon spikes 💀
sullen dove
idk wasn’t aware of this but ig what was he 2.6k or somethjn is like ok
clever path
forgor to press demon spikes 💀
dire vigil
People put too much stock into their performance in WOW lol. It’s very not important.
covert blaze
wasn't belte like 3.2k in s2
clever path
forgor to press demon spikes 💀
and then he called me a raid player
like what is that supposed to mean
dire vigil
It’s not supposed to be part of your identity lmao
sullen dove
tbh either way while it’s funny to have a chuckle at someone with a legendary having greens and greys in heroic I don’t rly care that much, the only actual thing about axe that was annoying was his take of “you want legendary just handed out on a platter to everyone?” In response to people saying make the legendary guaranteed after a certain number of kills that’s not 40 kills
and like bruh, if you the person telling me that yes I think I deserve it over you
clever path
no one deserves it
dire vigil
“Hello I’m Hoarahloux, he/him, 3150 io score in m+, but blue parse in raid, currently working on it.”
covert blaze
and then he called me a raid player
lmao someone called him a mpluser i guess
clever path
shit ass system
covert blaze
thought it goes both ways
clever path
not even
he trashtalked a spriest for dying to unavoidable dmg cause he cnat cc the pack with all sigils
nocturne dragon
bro smolderon pugs are impossible
how much impossible compared to larodar?
covert blaze
tbh either way while it’s funny to have a chuckle at someone with a legendary ha...
being bad at the game is fine, but being bad at the game and being a condescending ass 24/7 is not fine
clever path
how much impossible compared to larodar?
idk larodar is ez
nocturne dragon
pug larodar though
clever path
idk i prob had lucky groups then
wild mural
gonna get my augury tomorrow
sullen dove
yea kinda that
clever path
gonna get my augury tomorrow
acoustic furnace
All I did was say a bad word (not the gamer word dw)
sullen dove
wild mural
why tho?
clever path
idk rogues are chill from my experience
wild mural
what do you achieve from that
that's like the guy who last patch went into the spriest discord and got fucking roasted
clever path
wild mural
understandable
clever path
there is a valentines event?
wild mural
I got 3k
clever path
(i raidlog)
wild mural
and augury from vault slot
acoustic furnace
idk rogues are chill from my experience
I said that anything you can do with WAs can be done without them and they were foaming at the mouth so I disagree lol
I didn't even say not to use them I just said you don't need 500 of them for every boss
tidal kindle
no one deserves it
If your class is seemingly tuned around it, you deserve it at this point in the tier
wild mural
real
iron portal
Its fine take
oblique trail
If your class is seemingly tuned around it, you deserve it at this point in the ...
You get it if you deserve it
So not me
clever path
if they want to tune a class around an rng drop there is something seriously wrong with the system
sullen dove
15 weeks into the tier when hof is closed everyone should have it mailed into their inventory 
wild mural
I refuse to accept that I deserve it and banezi doesn't
sullen dove
game is dogshit until that happens
unreal onyx
there is a valentines event?
yes, I want mount
restive peak
13 heroic clears + 4 mythic reclears to tindy and 1 CE = no leggo = this is fun blizz
🙂
wild mural
there is a valentines event?
yes to remind us we're alone
clever path
true
clever path
13 heroic clears + 4 mythic reclears to tindy and 1 CE = no leggo = this is fun ...
now imagine if the system was like the head enchant
restive peak
Right
unreal onyx
remove legendary status and have it be a regular drop like gholak
clever path
early mythic prog = early leggo
deft ridge
legendary should be in mailbox when you create a warrior
oblique trail
13 heroic clears + 4 mythic reclears to tindy and 1 CE = no leggo = this is fun ...
Next week as per usual innit
sullen dove
restive peak
Fr at this point I don't even care, I'm top 50 for parses without it so fuckit, reclears til S4
When we run Augury, Ashkandur, leggo and pog on nerds
clever path
probably got embarrased
i mean
i said some stupid shit right
but i rebrand myself and changed into a better paladin man
nocturne dragon
the raidbot sim still haven't place the fyralath for sim? I tried searching the item found only "placeholder"
gilded pawn
he typed in "leggo axe"
forest knot
Can't wait for blizzard to pat themselves on the back on how they handled legendarys so well
clever path
💀
forest knot
Favorite was blue post saying they will monitor feedback on the acquisition process.
A process we didn't know anything about at the time
And no avenue of feedback
clever path
(they didnt monitor shit)
clever path
evokers were giga mad last patch as well
and they were like
hmm lets add a blp system!
instead of making it a questline u get access to once u kill the final boss
forest knot
The clowns could have had both worlds. A quest to grind and if you get lucky and loot it great
clever path
u kill fyrakk -> axe drops but its a questline starter -> questline is kill raid bosses -> takes like 5 weeks if u only do normal / 4 if u do heroic and 3 if u do mythic -> ez
clever path
so people that actually need it get it faster and it actually rewards doing harder content
deft ridge
they are busy banning people for running GDKPs in sod
left perch
does anyone want anything from Taco Bell I’m gonna order delivery
forest knot
DN
left perch
got u
forest knot
sullen dove
they are busy banning people for running GDKPs in sod
instead of making any effort to ban the gold bots
yes surely the gdkp runs are the problem and not the people in those runs buying gold and the bots they buy the gold from
forest knot
Does battlelord still say -10 rage
deft ridge
yes surely the gdkp runs are the problem and not the people in those runs buying...
surely
clever path
which means they looked at arm talent tree
indigo quarry
yes surely the gdkp runs are the problem and not the people in those runs buying...
blizzard solving problem method 1o1
hollow ridge
week whatever the fuck is it now still no lego and our priests holy pally alt got it
feel amazing rn
oblique trail
📱
clever path
📱
merry jetty
Whats the ETA on S4?
calm mantle
Whisper me ingame so i can add you to ignore list....
Average fury warrior key pushing experience, 45 minutes getting accepted, 15 minutes to brick the key and repeat.
fast crest
storm rune
tis the season of pugs
inner zinc
Affixes like tyrannical and fort say they increase dmg by up to X%. What determines how big the dmg increase is? Key lvl in guessing?
ebon venture
should i be using a 489 aug and 489 pips for m+ or change one of them for the 483 might of the ocean? pip and might of ocean sim higher but i do not trust that
crystal mauve
Is it normal for Arms to sim like 15-20k higher on ST than Fury with relatively the same gear?
lean nacelle
should i be using a 489 aug and 489 pips for m+ or change one of them for the 48...
I don't think augury is that great in keys, especially if you pair it with might. you lose out on a lot of strength
ebon venture
augury is probably BiS for tyranical keys for sure
lean nacelle
if you can keep signet stacks up, that would be better than augury
lean nacelle
personally I just use ember of null and might of the ocean
oblique trail
should i be using a 489 aug and 489 pips for m+ or change one of them for the 48...
Might + Augury is typically the go-to setup for keys
ebon venture
been trying to roll some avoidance on the might or the ember without success
waxen wave
verbal garden
To get the leggo, is just killing H Fyrakk once a week enough or should you clear the raid and get all the lesser as well?
left perch
we don’t technically know ngl
plush moon
Killing heroic uses the chances that you'd get from normal and LFR
left perch
Killing heroic uses the chances that you'd get from normal and LFR
he was asking about lessers
unreal onyx
I think killing hc is enough
plush moon
ope mb
unreal onyx
I got it after like 6 hc kills and only cleared heroic once in that time
latent hedge
Lessers are intended to give you a smaller increase to obtaining the leggo, so it's up to you if you wanna start building it up
left perch
I got it after like 6 hc kills and only cleared heroic once in that time
I’m on like HC 2, nm 2, lfr 8 and still none leggo
feels amazing
unreal onyx
that's nothing
compact knot
6/9 mythic on farm getting lesser embers hella, killed fyrakk every week = no lego
random ret paladin who has only killed fyrakk and its only his second week = lego
unreal onyx
(I think)