but not have to spam rb
#fury
clever path
edgy widget
Still I like the state of Fury a whole lot more than the state of Arms. I don't even dislike Arms gameplay, but it really has been the same general talents all expansion
I mean you can
what you mean is you want it to be best 🙃
clever path
yeah and lose all damage
edgy widget
not really all
clever path
i either have to drop ra + uf or odyns
edgy widget
hell you could be a trend setter - get cooking
clever belfry
@oblique trail come watch this wcm27
edgy widget
but again that's the inevitable result of these talent trees; you can't have everything
you can't have your cake and eat it too, you gotta make choice and creating an actual difference in gameplay from tier to tier is going to invariably result in playing a set of talents that someone doesn't like
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> come watch this wcm27
make me watch your wcm27
slim coral
blizzard is faster with hotfixing than anything else in the game
some dungeons are still overtuned by any cheese strats insta fix xD
tiny estuary
Are the legendary quests still broken?
clever path
What's the diff ?
clever path
clever path
What's the diff ?
crusading strikes is in the middle of the tree
and acts as crusading strike
Ah ok i was thinking about the spell itself
I do like this set of fury a lot, it's really fun to play
The only downside I see are the CD, I find it a bit awkward to have to delay them a bit each time but it's not a big deal
now imagine they move anni
and u can play am with ravager without having to spam rb like a monkey
clever path
and u can play am with ravager without having to spam rb like a monkey
Spamming rb is kinda making me feeling powerful and furious wich is flavorfull
And you will be spamming something in fury eventually
How long before s4 ? 1-2 month ?
Classic fury is soon back anyway
modest condor
more than 2 months for sure
sullen cloak
How much rng would you guys say is in dps parses?
I hit a 242,000 on volocross last week then a 259,000 a few days later
In last few days I have hardly managed to get over 220,000 with similar kill times...
Any thoughts? As it's frustrating the hell out of me!
rich ember
Link logs
gilded pawn
How much rng would you guys say is in dps parses?
I hit a 242,000 on volocross ...
A lot
Even a sim has like 10k variance between the best and worst pulls
Sim can range from 225 to 276k
sullen cloak
For real? That would make a lot of sense.
Getting better at nailing rotation almost flawlessly and end up with piss poor dps sometimes
gilded pawn
That being said it’s probably not rng
sudden tusk
jovial coral
sullen cloak
Been trying to parse as high as I can so regularly doing pulls and the dps variance is quite staggering sometimes
gilded pawn
Well pull time is the most important factor in dps
jovial coral
1:53 is very ideal kill timer
gilded pawn
Ye
jovial coral
other one is not
gilded pawn
1:53 is Uber bis
sullen cloak
You think it can make that much of a difference?
modest condor
on the 228k, if you had killed the boss at the same time you would have done almost 240k
a lot more, but still not enough to make up the difference
tardy lark
Then blame the rest on rng
love doing that
modest condor
wish i could check more but http://puu.sh/K0CMq/6c1f7ada77.png
sullen cloak
I don't want to just assume as want to improve and refine but on a sub 2 min volocrosss pull there is little rotational variance
jovial coral
wish i could check more but http://puu.sh/K0CMq/6c1f7ada77.png
reset zoom innit
gilded pawn
love doing that
I remember parsing first season
Thought I sucked dick
Turns out my weapon was dogshit
Nothing I could’ve done
modest condor
reset zoom innit
damn you smart
half cargo
There’s a pun in there
modest condor
there's a huge difference in average bloodbath damage between the 2 logs
206k vs 240k
half cargo
If you look hard enough
tardy lark
👀
sullen cloak
Ok..that seems a bit odd as my gear hasn't really changed
half cargo
sullen cloak
I did run dragon roar on the 259 and spear on the 228
Recently switched to spear single target as it does sim higher but in reality doesn't seem to be giving me the extra dps
sullen cloak
Ok been using the drop at feet macro but will check it !
obtuse hatch
For people who have the leggo when is the best time to use the on use effect?
modest condor
both logs use roar actually
modest condor
For people who have the leggo when is the best time to use the on use effect?
anywhere outside of reck really, while enraged
humble niche
fury is the big damage?
tardy lark
Rogue or DH is the big damage
tardy lark
i guess mythic is better for parsing in general
oblique trail
Having mythic weapons would certainly help it
tardy lark
best i got
tardy lark
my rogue has 2 while 2 of these runs are to trade others
cyan turtle
Imagine having good weapons
oblique trail
my rogue has 2 while 2 of these runs are to trade others
You are equally as despicable as the unfinished lego you have
(Sorry I'm projecting my rage and anger)
tardy lark
actually, i looted 2 in the 3 runs i did 10 weeks ago
oblique trail
I'm not sorry
tardy lark
the 18 was to help walli get one
and the 2 others were to get sandglass cause i cba double on use
im not as tryhard as raz
oblique trail
Simply just use the neltharion class trinket like me 😎
tardy lark
i think i still have it
upper wigeon
leggo quest FIXXED
dapper goblet
voodoo
clever path
evil voodoo
tiny estuary
leggo quest FIXXED - confirmed
swift cradle
can also confirm, wooo
swift cradle
any scribe warrior bro on Illidan? 😮
molten relic
you know you can just learn insc and use the scroll on urself right
pure raft
you know some people actually use the profession system and want to keep their stuff right
swift cradle
even as a lvl 1 scribe?
pure raft
yes
pure raft
im sorry i thought the guy had some clue what he was on about
u can teach the recipes to lvl 1 profession ppl tho
young swan
just post in trade chat
u dont need to use the scroll
plenty of people have it learned already
pure raft
it expires tho
pure raft
ye
young swan
or services chat
proud crown
recipe only lasts 30m
but pause on logout
you can send cross realm orders right?
I can log in
swift cradle
figured it out, thanks guys
livid lake
Quick question, Might of the ocean or pips for Raid? At the same ilvl they sim very very similar
sullen dove
proly might
might be diff for st but aoe moto prolly way better
the big dmg boost during cds
instead of just kinda more stats the whole time
dapper goblet
like 98.354% sure it doesnt
covert blaze
voodoo
dusty notch
does the zoom out command still work
no
lean heart
with the health nerf on mythic fyrak is it still worth to take uproar?
paper ivy
how do ppl macro ramage and BB?
summer quail
they don't
paper ivy
ive heard some do
summer quail
or shouldn't is more accurate
summer quail
coz if you're not enraged you get forced to use your bb over rampage
which is very bad
signal locust
Mythic track Porcelain Crab worth taking over a socket from vault? Doesn't sim to well
opal monolith
No
If it doesn't sim well why would you, get a 483 heart of ocean with augury for m plus
signal locust
No Aug luck yet
opal monolith
Howmuch dps incr did the crab sim
signal locust
Less than 483 might of the ocean and signet. Seems there are some crab lovers in here is why I ask
opal monolith
I woulnt do it if you miss a socket
Socket on an item thatll last you the seaspn
Will go a lot longer way then a crab you could replace with a superior trinket anytime
signal locust
Solid point
sullen dove
i mean crab is mostly just an easy farmable good trink for m+
if u dont like tryhard m+ too much or dont rly care its def not mandatory trink in raid or anything
its just most of the time gonna be better than signet for only m+
red yew
🦀
signal locust
1st crab I've seen all season just happened to be vault
cosmic tapir
Taut thether coil quest for leggo meanwhile fixed?
subtle lagoon
I'm really liking ember in m+ tbh, that versa+str is really good. Having 25% versa in high keys also helps with survivability
paper ivy
can u solo run mythic battle for dazalor?
sullen dove
its probably a bit hard, and certain mechanics that require multiple people should still be active
so dont think like rastakhan and mekkatorque would be remotely possible
but presumably you could do first few?
calm mantle
Not a 489but we take what we can get.
My mains still got a 476, my alt is taking over.
slim coral
woeful birch
Man frostfire legs are insane this ID. 100% uptime on trash 
calm mantle
Do you all still stay on dancing blades in Fort week or go back to titanic?
clever path
Man frostfire legs are insane this ID. 100% uptime on trash <:Rampage:5924716105...
ID?
clever path
Sounds fun
upper mica
i was looking at logs and i could see in M+ the higher warriors run ember of nullification over aug - is there a particular reason y? is it just due to the amount of 1 shots and the shield it gives?
storm rune
shield ye
oblique trail
correct
summer quail
anyone have the gromnak clip where gets lost in castle nathria?
umbral galleon
everyday
i wake up
make coffe
and check if there any pins
are*
one day i'll wake up with a massive buff
@edgy widget i pray for you
barren dagger
I wake up every day looking for the “lets take a look back at fury warrior in dragonflight”
But i fear we will be the last ones
stuck bison
I wake up everyday
clever path
maybe we are all sleeping and are in the bad timeline where warrior doesnt get buffed
we must wake up
wild mural
Lol I got a social contract 😄
clever path
clever path
Lol I got a social contract 😄
what is a social contract?
wild mural
I've never done AV on my warrior
clever path
suspension inc
faint oriole
AV isn't pvp though.
fleet sorrel
barren dagger
Tfw a ret pops these on spiders in brh and im instantly 500k dps behind
wild mural
Got PI'd 3 times
wild mural
379k
clever path
I need a good name for warrior
cyan turtle
I need a good name for warrior
name it BadPaladin
cyan turtle
we never spin 
red yew
WW = Spin
wild mural
<@444952606565990410> can you do any of the leggo crafts
I can do the enchanting one
once I'm out this key
tardy lark
giga
clever path
What's a leggo?
tardy lark
🙏
clever path
Why are kul tirans so chonky, all my mogs look bad
clever belfry
why tf are u KT
cyan turtle
i still dont understand why we didnt get the methhead build
why just the fat KT
i want the asmongold KT
barren dagger
We got UD for that
clever path
Big swords big belly
wild mural
BRUH
barren dagger
Looking like eddy hall
clever path
BRUH
how tf are you not 3k, I got 2 chars so close to 3k in 2 weeks all i need to do is do 4 23s and i got it
wild mural
cause I dont do keys
clever path
S L A C K I N G
wild mural
keys suck
wild mural
throne time 
clever path
Throne will give you nothing
wild mural
im doing a 21 throne
barren dagger
Throne fortified monkagiga
wild mural
watch me be 2999
clever path
ez 3k
astral wind
Fall for sure
wild mural
inv again @tardy lark
tardy lark
angery
barren dagger
If you want 3k exact i would do like wm or eb +22
clever path
Plus hes done 23 of it
barren dagger
He got them timed on 23 tho. Will give him like 4/5 points to time the fortified on 22
barren dagger
Do what i said
clever path
3002
cyan turtle
i gotta do my weekly 20 key
clever path
I'm proud of you syi
cyan turtle
i need both augury and signet
clever path
cyan turtle
a guild took me for fyrrak HC skip and i got full HC set :stronge
wild mural
💪
sour frigate
who's down
meh just did it
wild mural
😄
sour frigate
if u called 30 mins earlier 🙌
wild mural
jk im probably never gonna do it
cyan turtle
still crazy how much those 2 trinkets does for dps tho
barren dagger
Rageheart?
cyan turtle
naah isnt that a tank trinket
wild mural
I see dps using it I think
barren dagger
Apparently its good for dps in really high keys
jolly mist
rageheart is p good in giga high keys yeah
i dont remember where i saw it but there was a meme for like siff key levels and what trinkets they use
anyone know what i mean?
fuck i gotta go find ir
cyan turtle
tbh i just need any other trinket than the pips badge
pine pollen
Can someone gives me a good build for leveling? I'm currently doing WoD and I'm feeling so weak with 51
barren dagger
There is a leveling build on wowhead. Are you using that one?
elder epoch
tardy lark
fallen ginkgo
misty parcel
Quick question, is crit really worth on fury ?
Was wondering if versatily is a priority over crit
shy knot
Ret last 🥂
fallen ginkgo
Was wondering if versatily is a priority over crit
for me crit sims good in aoe and versa in st
but again, sim it :))
misty parcel
I'm asking what crit does basically and why it would be more or less crucial
fallen ginkgo
i mean crit is your chance to get a critical hit and as i said, for fury crit makes you spread CSHB on mobs and makes you get your odyns back faster
if this doesnt answer your question, i misunderstand somethign
misty parcel
Nope that's what I meant to ask, thanks !
barren dagger
Also because empowered BB crits are even bigger numbers
The bigger the number the better
fallen ginkgo
misty parcel
I was wondering if crit gives crit chance or if it's empowering the crit we does
oblique trail
It does not make crits go bigger
fallen ginkgo
its just chance
misty parcel
Yup thought so
sullen basin
fury gets thane + slayer right
sullen basin
Quick question, is crit really worth on fury ?
it is if you hate sims and also really like pressing odyns fury more often
barren dagger
Reality is every stat is good, some stats just more gooder
gleaming coral
can someone unironcally explain why the rampage/bb macro isnt a good idea?
inner zinc
Cuz sometimes you need to ramp even though you have bb up
Like when you need to enrage
true sapphire
Anyone else get their X-45 Heartbreaker this week but still no lego
gleaming coral
so for enrage uptime? what if dont have the experience of that being aproblem
is it just to min/max then
tardy lark
then you'll get that experience
warm crag
under normal gmaeplay the macro is probably fine but you really don't need it to play current fury
clever belfry
die macro die
gleaming coral
ill give it a go, see if i can get 100% uptime /s
umbral galleon
do we lose too much dps leaving cruel strikes rank 2 for shockwave?
warm crag
not really
umbral galleon
also is dancing blades so much better then titanic rage?
summer quail
nah, barely lose anything
umbral galleon
than*
warm crag
ye db>tr for almost any content other than like +5s
umbral galleon
uproar or thunderous for high keys?
tardy lark
generally play no uproar because you often run shockwave
but prolly wouldnt anyway, since you are a 1.5min class anyway
umbral galleon
wait
i think i fucked up my tree
(yes i imported from a top10 rio warr)
will SS
where did i went wrong?
m+ content for context
where did i go*
@edgy widget could you help me out if you could
eternal sundial
I dont think he's gonna help beyond directing you to his guide
umbral galleon
true
eternal sundial
The build looks good tho
summer quail
looks good. can take something other than second wind if you want
umbral galleon
AH
eternal sundial
Hps padders smh
warm crag
second wind has a low pickrate i wouldnt go for that
eternal sundial
🗣️ low pickrate
eternal sundial
It's good for bursting week
summer quail
prob coz whoever you copied it from ran it for bursting
umbral galleon
true
umbral galleon
vulcanic and that shadow one idk the name
summer quail
idk xD. not done m+ for 2 weeks
umbral galleon
sorry for the sacrilege but i generally dont read archi m+ guides, idk his rating
i could be massively wrong
but i said it so i could be corrected
if i tag archi again he'll shoot me in the hand
will take a shower and hope for an answer when i come back
umbral galleon
but i said it so i could be corrected
.
summer quail
what kind of answer are you looking for? the build looks good, just use the build
eternal sundial
if i tag archi again he'll shoot me in the hand
nah
but sometimes youll get decent answers without him
umbral galleon
if his m+ builds are the most accurate since i assume he doesn't run them that many
guides not builds*
eternal sundial
tbf as long as you grab the ww talents and then either db or tr and then move the float point to bc/ss/whatever ur fine
lot of that is just personal pref
i run bloodcraze and db because i like killing bosses
umbral galleon
i wish i could run fresh meat and titanic rage
but getting into enrage isn't a problem anymore
(bfa CSHB enjoyer)
umbral galleon
yea no if its gets me 0.4% more dmg i take it
and fresh meat was great when CSHB was not shit
eternal sundial
it just lost most its value with the dumb enrage uptime we have
umbral galleon
its not shit today but compared to BFA one it is
i remember doing tol dagor, tank dying on a +22 fortified and tanking just cuz i had 5 HoTs running
not talking about the crocs they surely would shred me
i was talking about those crabs
padding crabs
miss tem
them
funny guys
eternal sundial
i mean grabs is like trees in AA
umbral galleon
i just like crabs IRL so fuck them trees
summer quail
reject humanity. embrace crab
umbral galleon
i hope to turn into a crab when i grow up
clever path
you should play second wind on bursting weeks. if its not bursting drop second wind for intim shout
sullen basin
has there ever been a version of fury warrior where you needed 50 phDs like with enhance shaman to play well
inner zinc
We used to have to maintain sunder KEKW
low folio
the more complicated a class is, the less played they are so i dont think warrior has ever been complicated to play
spec*
sullen basin
sunder was easy becasue it was a multi-warrior job
I wish I could steal other shaman maelstrom stacks or something
tardy lark
enh is just a priority of buttons like every other class
clever path
personally i hate squishy classes
ik enha used to be squishy
idk if something changed
clever path
idk if something changed
It has not
clever path
enh is just a priority of buttons like every other class
more like slot machine
tardy lark
ye kinda
drifting cloud
i just did this in a brh but im not sure its good or bad probably pretty bad since its alot of large pulls, but if someone is more experienced help please
humble plover
You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a smooth target cap
quaint stag
Think I did around the same the other day at 486 ilvl in a 20 but tank pulled a bit smaller than usual. All depends on pathing and when your cd’s line up really
native haven
Guys, the sim is saying to use the leggo on pull, and on cd, like it's max prio without even enraging, is that really the correct way to use it?
i always use it when reck fades but avatar it's still up but idk what to do now lol
clever path
i always use it when reck fades but avatar it's still up but idk what to do now ...
dont trust the robot
trust the father all knowing
umbral galleon
has there ever been a version of fury warrior where you needed 50 phDs like with...
as i have returned from BFA's rotation, it sure feels like a PHD not to fuck up the burst rotation. i just need muscle memory tho
clever path
in pins
umbral galleon
Guys, the sim is saying to use the leggo on pull, and on cd, like it's max prio ...
he hasnt updated it yet
pins are more up to date
clever path
understanding why u press each button helps tremendously
i remember it was like early sl i think
and i was trying sub rogue and it had like a 20 button opener
or some shit and it was so annoying
but once u understand why u press each button it just clicks and makes sense
willow patrol
so basically im in a position thats delicate on my warrior
I have absolutely had 0 luck with weapons, finally managed to get hold of a hero gorehowl, but my other weapon is a veteran sword at 441 lol.
i got my old primal molten greataxe with frozen devotion and alch thing for food on it
is it a bad idea to craft that to 486 or whatever max is?
or are the other items just much, much, better?
Currently ilvl 464 total, with 467/441 weapons
The cost of recrafting is going to be super low, excpet the aspects, so it will just postpone the other crafts but not set me back financially
clever path
so basically im in a position thats delicate on my warrior
I have absolutely ha...
follow the sim brotha
Use droptimizer
but most likely it will tell you to craft the haxe
olive wraith
How many sparks do you have
olive wraith
Ya def do a weapon
willow patrol
the food buff is super nice on it too lol
do i do 100 % guarantee or free recrafts at 5k? its 1600/try on my axe
acoustic furnace
do i do 100 % guarantee or free recrafts at 5k? its 1600/try on my axe
Join a guild with crafters and then never pay that much again
umbral galleon
i know y'all spam me check the pings but str food or mastery
acoustic furnace
i know y'all spam me check the pings but str food or mastery
Sim it. It will differ from player to player.
willow patrol
Join a guild with crafters and then never pay that much again
yeah, im going to look for a guild but its pretty shitty right now
ive been blessed by my friend setting me up for people in phase 1 for crafting, and he himself had most stuff i needed on my evoker but no bs
umbral galleon
Sim it. It will differ from player to player.
i'll sim it, but theorycrafting on my own can i assume by stat weight sim str food would be best since it has more value?
i'm dumb dont judge if i'm incorrect
willow patrol
wowhead guide says haste/mastery at least
oblique trail
Get Great Cerulean Sea
clear shore
Quick Question guys what are the Main stats for fury?
oblique trail
It's vers/mast food
umbral galleon
Quick Question guys what are the Main stats for fury?
ur asking to be butchered alive
oblique trail
It's worth more than str food, since you get basically double secondary stats compared to main stat
clear shore
Nah im Just confused
oblique trail
And secondaries are quite close in value to main stat
umbral galleon
yeah nah they'll just spam 
can't discuss anything that isnt written on guides in here
acoustic furnace
i'll sim it, but theorycrafting on my own can i assume by stat weight sim str fo...
At lower ilvls STR will probably sim higher. Once geared you'll want to swap.
umbral galleon
At lower ilvls STR will probably sim higher. Once geared you'll want to swap.
god bless you, what is your first name i'll pray for you
first human being to interact on this chat for a while now
oblique trail
Ok forget I typed
umbral galleon
i didnt read u banezi
i'll pray for u 2
its hard not to get spammed here
should just remove this toxic ass pin
clear shore
Cuz wowhead's BIS Gear is most of the time haste/crit but ive been told its madt/vers?
clear shore
Done
clear shore
Done
meager gyro
use top gear option on raidbots
clever path
Kul tiran goes hard in this set ngl
warm crag
does it
umbral galleon
if you say so, it looks cool but i personally dont enjoy the model
a prot warrior
on that
clever path
I look BEEFY
umbral galleon
would be cool ASF
clever path
This shield kinda sucks
clear shore
@umbral galleon just run a quick sim?
clever path
Get a room
grim tree
can't discuss anything that isnt written on guides in here
kind of like how no one bothered talking about Menace as a viable Warrior CC for Incorporeal? 😮💨
warm crag
it was talked about and dismissed cause its too costly on points while other classes deal with it faster and cheaper
grim tree
maybe on the high end but in 18-20 it was perfectly fine i barely noticed a dps loss
warm crag
18-20 end isnt the part where you need to optimize talent trees
grim tree
im aware of that
warm crag
then do what you want talent trees are there for you to shift stuff around based on your preference
grim tree
but 99% of us arent in a M+ tournament so it's not a big deal to talk about it
even if people wanna act like they are 😂
barren dagger
I think a lot of people here push way past 20 and in those cases it matters
grim tree
My point stands.
warm crag
i mean yeah talk about it all you want point still stands that other classes have cheaper or easier ways to deal with it than you giving up throughput or other util up for it
you can certainly make that choice though
grim tree
The issue is that it's being ignored completely when people are bashing warriors because they're just being ignorant
warm crag
its not being ignored completely menace has been talked about a lot
you just havent seen those conversations
grim tree
for 1 stupid incorporeal
1 stupid incorporeal that wrecks a boss fight because no one interrupted it
warm crag
tldr still is we have to sac a lot for a counter that only works once every two incorps
while other classes can deal with them all consistently
grim tree
I hear nothing but "warriors have no utility"
So I take that as a challenge
To show that there is utility. We arent shamans by any means
clever belfry
i mean go ahead and waste ur talent points
acoustic furnace
Is it really utility if you have to gut yourself to use it?
barren dagger
Our utility is shit compared to others
other classes do more damage and have more utility
indigo quarry
1 stupid incorporeal that wrecks a boss fight because no one interrupted it
if your group didnt handle that 1 guy because they busy running like chicken leave key
grim tree
if your group didnt handle that 1 guy because they busy running like chicken lea...
toxic mentality bro
indigo quarry
people are armed with WA and spammy CC
but you wanna go out of your way
to pick 2 points
do you
clever belfry
to pick 2 points
its really just one
grim tree
I will, I have, and I will continue to.
clever belfry
shout is a good pick anyhow
barren dagger
Tbh below a certain key level just run what the fuck you want, doesn’t really matter
clever belfry
arms diff
grim tree
I dont need to be #1, and I couldnt care if I was #900
warm crag
with no offense intended what is your point here
acoustic furnace
It's about using all of your team's capabilities
Exactly why you don't need to take menace. You just need to rely on your team to do their job.
warm crag
you're complaining that people that want to play optimally don't talk about menace, but you also admit that menace is in no way optimal
clever belfry
curious
grim tree
Im complaining that it's not mentioned anywhere, I said nothing about people wanting to play optimally
warm crag
i'm giving you the reason why menace isn't talked about often, and when it is talked about genuinely with the interest of discussing what is optimal it gets discarded pretty fucking quick same as shattering throw
grim tree
It's an option. It shouldn't be tossed out
warm crag
options can most certianly be tossed out
acoustic furnace
^
clever belfry
its an option just like having a warlock CC both every time
grim tree
Sorry but I dont subscribe to single minded playstyles
clever belfry
(this is not real)
or like having ur healer do both afflicted each time by holding a global
its just NOT a reliable / good thing to do
barren dagger
bro we already do shit damage and u want us to sacrifice even more to do someone else’s job?
warm crag
how is deliberating a choice and considering what other classes have to concede to be able to deal with incorp single minded
grim tree
If my M+ group is struggling. I will absolutely go out of my way to help them until I dont have too any more
Honestly I wouldnt take it if I didnt have too
Im not a pugger
acoustic furnace
So what youre saying is you play w shitters and have to make up for it
warm crag
you play in a coordinated setting and cannot coordiante classes that can deal with mechanics better than you to deal with them?
barren dagger
Yeah now u just chatting
indigo quarry
grim tree
What Im saying is that Im not a piece of shit and I help people get better
indigo quarry
this guy smh my head
barren dagger
On that key level you can just brute force everything man
grim tree
All the power to you if you don't want to help your guildies
grim tree
I could care less. But dont shit on me because Im saying it's an option
acoustic furnace
We didn't shit on you until you started being defensive and weird
barren dagger
My guild is dead. I only pug and our comps have people that deal with affixes
grim tree
I was arguing my point. Im not being defensive
Its called meaningful conversation, maybe you havent had many of those
acoustic furnace
You asked why it isn't talked about. You were told because we have to give up a lot for menace. Why is that answer not good enough?
grim tree
Gross
acoustic furnace
HA
grim tree
Now Im offended
clever path
i mean
grim tree
Personal insults smh
grim tree
Dont assign me to those fucking degens
clever path
since it connects for some reason
to double time
but id rather someone peel my skin off while im awake
than to play without bounding stride
warm crag
Its called meaningful conversation, maybe you havent had many of those
you cannot claim what you are doing is meaningful conversation when you see me discuss why something isnt mentioned as often as you think and then explain why its usually discarded and then call me single minded
grim tree
IIRC I took out Dual Wield Spec and Seismic Reverb to make it work
clever path
ye so u just lost 5% of all of ur damage
since its an aura buff
seismic is useless anyway
warm crag
me when i drop 5% all damage instead of talking to my coordinated teammates and figuring out a plan on how to best deal with incorps
acoustic furnace
This man SLAUGHTERED his DPS to deal with something that multiple classes can solo without issue. That is actually hilarious.
clever path
u can drop sidearm for it which is still like 2% which is massive
warm crag
crazy
grim tree
whats your point XD
clever path
idk how big 1 overwhelming rage is
barren dagger
Gamer
warm crag
holy shit 250k overall
acoustic furnace
I'm sorry Grimm I didn't know I was in the presence of a #gamer
warm crag
couldve been 262k overall
grim tree
Couldve been
indigo quarry
grim tree
But I accomplished helping my M+ team getting THEIR 18s and 20s in for the week, and theyre better for it
Thats what mattered to me
barren dagger
Sounds good
Happy for you
everything is viable at certain levels of content
That’s it
warm crag
thats not what most people are optimizing though
grim tree
And the DH and Sham in my teams were able to better focus on the incorps for the next time it showed up
acoustic furnace
Well here's my counter to the whole "I do it it fer muh team" argument.
If they don't learn to handle affix. And you do it for them instead of coordinating with them to handle it. You are actively helping them to be a worse player.
grim tree
They did though
acoustic furnace
Then why did you need to take menace?
warm crag
but they can deal with every incorp on their own
grim tree
The whole intention of taking it was to have it in case they missed it
indigo quarry
or you could just storm bolt the thing til they get time to handle it ?
barren dagger
Tfw storm bolt only temporarily deals with it. This just blizzard shanking us tbh
grim tree
I had thought of that, but I guess its just easier for me to hold someone's hand and do it myself
acoustic furnace
Stormbolt it and then kick it to buy time. Use voice chat to tell them to CC it since it's a coordinated group. Boom now it's handled and you don't lose 5% of your damage.
clever path
dropping a 5% aura buff is not optimal at all
vapid spade
I finaly obtained my leggy today 😄
clever path
drop sidearm or overwhelming rage
acoustic furnace
I finaly obtained my leggy today 😄
Gratz!
warm crag
you see how "i'm dropping 5%+ of my damage to handhold people who might be asleep" is a pretty easy point to discard when people are interested in optimizing comps and setups
yes menace is there for super niche scenarios but 99% of them are solved by having someone else on your team use their usually baseline util
pulsar turtle
Trying to figure out what warrior comp is the best right now for overall keys. Curious peoples 5 man thoughts. I’d say guardian Druid or brewmaster but no one plays. So outside of those what do you guys think?
clever path
doesnt matter really
acoustic furnace
thx now i need to grind stuff xD
Make sure to do Superbloom with a group. They can give you a buff that increases how many dream leaves you get . The rare quest is super easy if you do every Emerald Frenzy and then kill world bosses and rares in between.
Everything else is easy.
vapid spade
yeah got some frend and guildies to help me at superbloom
acoustic furnace
Noice noice
vapid spade
the rares suck to collect but i got all Ashen Flakes i need (i stored some equip from world kontent like superbloom in advance xD)
grim tree
you see how "i'm dropping 5%+ of my damage to handhold people who might be aslee...
If Im the only person standing behind my point so be it. Ive played this game long enough that Im not going to sweat it if I can't push passed a 23 by the end of the season. All the power to those who want to min/max and optimise, but there are many many new people to the game that don't have a fucking clue about any of it. There may have been a discussion on this discord about it but I guess I wasn't around for it. In the end, it's an option. It's not a good option, but it's there. And that's all Im trying to say.
warm crag
you see how "i'm dropping 5%+ of my damage to handhold people who might be aslee...
its not like you literally have zero tools to deal with incorp btw you can still kick or stormbolt them
grim tree
its not like you literally have zero tools to deal with incorp btw you can still...
They recast immediately after kick
grim tree
Truth
warm crag
for your teammates to wake up and use their one button that deals with incorp permanently for free
stormbolt locks them down if they're asleep for even longer
grim tree
In the long term they know now, so the next time the week comes up I wont have to do it
glacial ether
Hey guys. Quick question. What has priority? The proc for Execute or Bloodbath,Rampage?
acoustic furnace
Trying to figure out what warrior comp is the best right now for overall keys. C...
Prot Paladin because the interrupts they bring are god tier, the group utility is solid, they can Brez, and they can handle affixes.
Disc Priest because damage prevented is better than damage healed (imo). MD is also a must have even after the nerfs. Also has solid DPS for a healer.
Fury Warrior because it's next to impossible to kill us unless we fuck up and we can maintain good ST damage even in an AoE spec. We also have a lot of good stops (Stormbolt, Intimidating Shout, Shockwave, pummel).
BM hunter for Lust and some ridiculous DPS. Also has decent utility and survivability.
Ret Paladin for additional utility and for a second paladin aura. Also some solid damage after buffs and is unkillable unless you're bad at the game.
Disclaimer: This is all just my opinion.
Oh also forgot to mention stam buff from priest.
warm crag
this could be written by chatgpt
if you want the best fury comp just look at the highes timed keys with a fury man its not that hard lol
its usually just the meta -1
acoustic furnace
Yeah but that's less fun
warm crag
fun is usually not a factor when someone asks what is the best
ornate dagger
acoustic furnace
fun is usually not a factor when someone asks what is the best
ok anyways
glacial ether
What has priority? The proc for Execute or Bloodbath,Rampage? Thanks! 😄
acoustic furnace
WW is kinda rare to see but yeah they're solid. Could replace ret Paladin on my list
warm crag
What has priority? The proc for Execute or Bloodbath,Rampage? Thanks! 😄
did you check the wowhead guide it should outline this
glacial ether
wowhead guide also says that main stat is Mastery and Versatility and if I check top players, they all go, Mastery->Haste->Crit->Versa
That's why I ask here
warm crag
the wowhead guide also says you should sim your own character on the same page where it says to gear mast vers
which is what the top players do
glacial ether
I am sorry, I am fairly new. The sim part is the raidbots Top Gear?
warm crag
yeah exactly
if you want to know about potential gear upgrades you can check the droptimizer and gear compare tabs too
glacial ether
I cannot see my stats or a suggestion to change my stats there, but maybe I am doing it wrong
I will give it another chance, thanks
barren dagger
You don’t need to know which stats are important for you. The website basically runs combinations of your gear to find the best setup
So it’s different for everyone
grim tree
I cannot see my stats or a suggestion to change my stats there, but maybe I am d...
Do you have SimC?
glacial ether
yes, I do
grim tree
pop that into https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/droptimizer it'll help you figure out what you're looking for
flat sapphire
how in gods name do i move this and how did it get there
grim tree
Also make sure to sim your vault drops with the Top Gear page to help you figure out which upgrade is better for you
It's not 100% accurate as it sometimes makes mistakes on calatlysing
But in general it will get you where you need to go
grim tree
Last week it told me to take a hero track ring over a myth track chest piece
and i had hero track tier
oblique trail
That has nothing to do with catalyst mistakes
oblique trail
That was simply just a case of the ring being a bigger upgrade than that myth track chest piece
grim tree
Yeah but I had a bigger chance of getting the same ring from heroic that week
warm crag
where is the mistake
grim tree
The mistake is that it doesn't have that factor
oblique trail
?
warm crag
that is enitrely user error lol
oblique trail
You are not supposed to blindly follow sims
warm crag
it made no mistake with catalysts
barren dagger
That ring could also never drop for you
grim tree
never is an absolute
oblique trail
Bro
barren dagger
The robot just does the numbers and tells you what is best immediately
oblique trail
You are blaming the sim for making a mistake, when it's the user that would make a mistake in this context
The sim didn't make a mistake
Just use your brain and realise that one thing is easily farmable/acquireable compared to something that isn't
oblique trail
"I will use the flew over your head bit because I said something stupid"
grim tree
I didnt say anything stupid
oblique trail
You have in fact been saying stupid things the past hour
warm crag
you said a lot of stupid stuff lol
grim tree
The mistake is that the machine doesnt have the option because it cant process that logic
grim tree
Nah. I told it exactly what I wanted. It gave me the answers that it was programmed to calculate and give
warm crag
so where is the catalyzing mistake
please outline this so i can send it to someone who runs simc
warm crag
go on
grim tree
I charge $130/hr
warm crag
you know you're not worth that if you blame simc for catalyzing mistakes and then explain that you made the error yourself
grim tree
whatever man.
indigo quarry
the L farmer
grim tree
You're claiming Im saying stupid stuff, maybe my logic is just beyond your comprehension. And thats ok. Like I said. I don't subscribe to single minded thinking.
oblique trail
Good one
clever path
Sounds like Belteshazzar
warm crag
for real though please do outline the mistake you made with simc catalyze charges, we'd all love for any simc bugs to be fixed and you seem to be a valuable contributor
i meant simc made*
sorry freudian slip
i know a guy i can send it to and get it fixed asap
clever path
I know a guy who knows a guy
warm crag
or well i guess its not a simc issue but rather a raidbots one but the point still stands
gilded pawn
You're claiming Im saying stupid stuff, maybe my logic is just beyond your comprehension. And thats ok. Like I said. I don't subscribe to single minded thinking.
warm crag
You're claiming Im saying stupid stuff, maybe my logic is just beyond your comprehension. And thats ok. Like I said. I don't subscribe to single minded thinking.
indigo quarry
You're claiming Im saying stupid stuff, maybe my logic is just beyond your comprehension. And thats ok. Like I said. I don't subscribe to single minded thinking.
grim tree
Its not something that a web application can fix. I never directly blamed it. What I said was that it is not able to determine that I had a greater chance of getting my BIS ring through my guildies or drop chance. You guys are toxic af fr
warm crag
It's not 100% accurate as it sometimes makes mistakes on calatlysing
you directly blamed it here
gleaming siren
Holy fuck what am I reading
warm crag
coward
oblique trail
We understand what you're trying to say lol
oblique trail
But this is not a mistake in the sim
gleaming siren
We understand what you're trying to say lol
you clearly don't
read his PhD on The Great Vault
warm crag
you're acting like you've got some divine knowledge when all you're trying to say is that user error exists lmao
grim tree
Seriously though, fuck off.
bright falcon
Seriously though, fuck off.
Damn!
Good read up, thanks for the content grim you are cooked my brother
grim tree
Acting like you know everything cause I have to write a fucking chapter on why I think it can't think like a human. Read between the fucking lines.
oblique trail
The sim is there to tell you what's best with what you give it
warm crag
Acting like you know everything cause I have to write a fucking chapter on why I...
thats not what i asked you to write
red yew
You're claiming Im saying stupid stuff, maybe my logic is just beyond your comprehension. And thats ok. Like I said. I don't subscribe to single minded thinking.
oblique trail
That's the purpose of the sim, it's what it's designed for, and it's what it does
grim tree
The sim is there to tell you what's best with what you give it
I literally said that
warm crag
i asked you to outline the mistake the machine made
oblique trail
Yes
grim tree
I said it did its job
oblique trail
Okay
grim tree
It gave me what I gave it
bright falcon
You're claiming Im saying stupid stuff, maybe my logic is just beyond your comprehension. And thats ok. Like I said. I don't subscribe to single minded thinking.
oblique trail
But you still claimed it made a mistake
And the mistake again is simply just you expecting more of it
grim tree
Ok.
compact siren
Beast
warm crag
beastus
open prairie
honest question
is bear druid just garbage this tier
or does everyone playing it just suck
clever path
prot paladin is brain dead to play
open prairie
isnt bear also
clever path
prot paladin is braindead but the utility isnt
also there is a massive gap between good and bad prot paladins
shit prot palas do no damage for example
open prairie
just check their mog
open prairie
anyone with a bad mog or "i cant finish this set so i took an item that vaguely fits colorwise" is a red flag
clever path
we are no longer friends on facebook
edgy tree
wait so fury is legit 2 buttons ?
young swan
no but people who dont like the spec will say it is
edgy tree
i just imported the build i only have bloodthirst rampage execute and WW
eternal sundial
slam
edgy tree
Slam is part of rotation?
young swan
yes
hoary stone
Hi guyz! i'm trying to improve as fury warrior, my numbers are terrible and i don't know exactly what to do to try and improve. I'm trying a spot in my guild's raiding party but with my current dps, i'm not sure if i will get the spot.
Here are some log's from a failed heroic pug yesterday.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GZv6HhfNwrB1dy2m
Can you guyz help me out plz? mainly with rotation and CD's, opener and etc.
bronze dew
sorry i'm sure this was asking millions of times but when do i usse the Fyr'alath the dreamrender ability?
hoary stone
ps: I LOVE ARMS, but seems that fury is better right now, so... i'm trying
hoary stone
sorry i'm sure this was asking millions of times but when do i usse the Fyr'alat...
i think the first post on the pinned topics here has the answer for you
bronze dew
ok thanks
edgy tree
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:1] Beserker Stance; Defensive Stance
should this work?
okay i fixed the typo it works
plush raven
Im having some trouble finding the best way to sim myself. How do you guys sim? (Raidbots configs)
plush raven
Thanks!
edgy tree
can i take 1 pooint out of overwhelming fury for intim shout if i need?
clever path
how are u missing a point for intim
edgy tree
i just copied from FAQ
clever path
this is what i play and many others
on bursting weeks i drop intim shout for second wind
edgy tree
this one has 2 points in crushing force
clever path
yeah u dont need that
edgy tree
which u put 1 in shout and the other in
oblique trail
You can remove those
CF is very unnecessary
it's just technically the highest throughput node
However Slam does next to no damage at all
clever path
slam was 0.3% of my damage in 28 eb
edgy tree
yeah look i legit just started reading into fury
so our main rotation is WW for cleave
blood thirst rampage and slam
clever path
basically yeah
edgy tree
def have fewer buttons than arms and prot
clever path
yep
edgy tree
id appreciate another filler and like 1 more defensive but hey
gotta put the professions on the bars just to fill it out D
lmao but you guys enjoying fury its that fast smashing fun ?
modest condor
another defensive?
we're already gigatanky
you have 2 really low cooldown defensives
edgy tree
i just like having a lot of buttons
plush raven
tbh, i liked more the past season set. But def this season feels good.
clever path
Why do people buy boost runs to just need on items then sell them, Like are you that bad you cannot get paid to boost or what
young swan
because they're cringe
edgy tree
Any good ways to farm whelp crests? i wanna craft 447
plush raven
should i keep my 2 SF patch or switch to 1 patch + lariat? I'm full on sockets (bad luck in vault)
oblique trail
You should be using allied wrists as your highest priority
That + shadowflame/lariat, where lariat would be better in AoE
Although it's not a massive difference which of the two you use together with allied
plush raven
Sorry for my question, but why allied? for survival?
plush raven
Ok, thanks!
edgy widget
the difference is extremely minimal, not even worth recrafting unless you're really bored or really interested in pushing the bleeding edge of keys
umbral galleon
thank god it was the first thing i crafted cuz they threw me on smold mythic with 470 ilvl
they took me out of retirement for bshout
so they had to run w it
good luck to have vers as bis stat
@edgy widget why does the API rotation starts with an AA, am i reading it wrong?
flat sapphire
when we getting lust or smth?
acoustic furnace
when you reroll to a class with Lust
edgy tree
lust coming 11.0
acoustic furnace
Make your own group or swap to Prot for keys
Otherwise get ready for some looooooong queues
flat sapphire
when I make my own group I always get the most boosted people
brave cairn
learn to pick
flat sapphire
yea im rerolling
brave cairn
its not hard
brave cairn
what should I reroll too
the uninstall wizard
acoustic furnace
I'm picky. And if I invite someone without gems/enchants they get the boot. Usually a dogwhistle that someone doesn't know what they're doing.
brave cairn
asking in a warrior discord what you should reroll to after malding for being 2.5k rating andy and not getting invites
sounds like a skill issue
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> why does the API rotation starts with an AA, am i reading i...
talking about auto-attack in the sequence table? it doesn't really - pre-combat actions happen first
flat sapphire
Ive had people thats 3.2k score in a +24 that didnt know mechanics in atal
im 3.1k
trying to get into a 24
brave cairn
the fact that ur 3.1k and not know the state of the meta right now is extremely cringe
edgy widget
if you mean why is charge after auto-attack, it's not really either - they both share the same timestamp, the charge action is showing when it hits, to simulate pre-casting charge
exotic notch
100% sounds like skill issue
umbral galleon
if you mean why is charge after auto-attack, it's not really either - they both ...
aaaaaah thank you! that was what i wondered
acoustic furnace
Imma be real here. Unless you're doing top .01% there's no reason to push. Just do 20s for vault and live the good life.
umbral galleon
i was showing the perfect rotation to a friend and got confused
@clear shore read what archi said
edgy widget
also fwiw, the "auto_attack" action is when the actor is starting auto-attacks
tardy lark
very much so
umbral galleon
so the api ignores the 7 yard range between charge?
sorry if this is a dumb question
oh
i understood it now
thought for more than a second
thank you archi!
our 🐐
edgy widget
black sheep maybe, but I'll take it
umbral galleon
we all appreciate you very much
flat sapphire
the fact that ur 3.1k and not know the state of the meta right now is extremely ...
Its extremely cringe to be toxic and think that meta matters in 24s
but you do you
♥️