fury

[covert blaze]

I'm so glad i don't care about tusks

[clever path]

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/73309-siege-of-orgrimmar-raid-skip-added-in-patch-1015/

[barren dagger]

Ty

[covert blaze]

I shall craft a hood and bsl thanks niner @still swift

[storm rune]

I farmed it for a while, but then realized it was kind of a stupid looking mog and couldn't find a way to make it look otherwise on a belf then gave up

[still swift]

no problem at all

[clever path]

its for zug zuggers and brown orcs

[covert blaze]

can't wait to be the 10000000000000th mag har to cosplay garrosh

[storm rune]

wtf is bsl?

[covert blaze]

blue silken linen

i was talking about priest earlier

[storm rune]

ohhh, I was thinking it might be shadowflame and I just never actually read the full name of the embellish lmao

[shy knot]

Bis orc mog

If its any other race dont even bother

[jolly mist]

hunchback orc

gotta be one of the most disgusting things

[storm rune]

I feel like dwarf might be able to make it work, if they dont nerf racials next xpac maybe I'll just delete my current war and level up a dwarf then go for some sort of Garrosh x magni cosplay

[shy knot]

Og orc

[clever path]

hunchback has better animations

some weird clipping shit on straight orc

Look at them beards

and them undies

[storm rune]

macrame dwarves lul

[covert blaze]

can't wait for them to have a racial that removes all debuffs and also cc

[clever path]

Magni cosplay inc

SHAMPEON

[storm rune]

We all know it's the world of dwarfcraft anyways

may as well embrace becoming a rock monkey

[clever path]

I mean, the coolest races out there

next to gnomers and humans

[storm rune]

gnomes have the funniest fucking sound effects

I will spend 10 minutes before raid race swapping until I get a female gnome just to hear her sound like a cross between Link and one of the chipmunks while swinging a giant battle axe

[clever path]

rofl

they have pretty eyes too

fem gnomes

"Keep the preasure up"

[covert blaze]

find god

[barren dagger]

Hunchback is way better than straight

I mean anyways it’s 2024 if you straight you got issues

[clever path]

i love helicopters

i am helisexual

[barren dagger]

That’s good

Kinda painful though

But to each their own

[clever path]

but my real love is hating myself

hence i decided to grind out path for bastion

problem is , i need shitton of anima and i ran out of alts to feed me anima trough the funny little thing called catch up, and i dont have zereth flying unlocked for farm

[barren dagger]

Sounds like some shadowlands garbage im glad i skipped

Shadowkek looked like a cursed expain

[clever path]

yea this is primarily for cosmetics

[storm rune]

SL was a garbage xpac

but

this was also a garbage system that they recycled for the third time at that point

[clever path]

for these

[storm rune]

so yes you're correct

[barren dagger]

I need to do fucking mage tower still

Just need to sit down and do it but it’s mad boring

Will take me some tries

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[storm rune]

It's definitely the coolest armor set warriors will ever have

[clever path]

took me like 7 pulls on fury

[storm rune]

Arms was insanely easy, think I pulled it off on my second attempt

Prot on the other hand I've been trying for almost a year now

[young swan]

xylem was always pretty easy

agatha was always one of the hardest

[clever path]

wait what

[mossy fox]

was she

[clever path]

seriously?

[mossy fox]

from easiest to hardest mage tower i always thought it was fury > arms > prot

[clever path]

I thought she was easiest, you just needed to manage your rava and spear, thats about it

[clever path]

yea pretty much this

[young swan]

i think the one with the worm and the drogbar was easier but agatha was pretty up there back in the day anyways

[storm rune]

I started tracking how much gold I spent on repairs for prot mage tower, currently at about roughly 21k

[sullen dove]

Idk xylem seemed way harder to me, until you get the gear

U kinda beat xylem with gear but things on Agatha were always dangerous

[young swan]

idk i didnt struggle much with it in tomb

and i was dogshit in tomb

[sullen dove]

However u could fight Agatha for like 9 minutes psure and be fine if u respected all the mechs

[young swan]

still am dogshit but yeah

[tardy lark]

fat imp lady was ez day 1 thing

xylem less so until jump + leap was found out

did not attempt prot day 1

[dapper goblet]

xan just said

imp lady

was hard

I HATE XAN

I HATE HIM!!

[young swan]

?

[tardy lark]

angery

[young swan]

i did not like agatha

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/schizo-cat-the-voices-gif-25415230

[young swan]

not fun

[mossy fox]

i think xylem was p easy even without jump leap

i just had a very long p1 doing lots of VR casts

[tardy lark]

ye

[mossy fox]

or was it impending, i dont remember

[storm rune]

I love how you guys actually know mobs names

[tardy lark]

nah you ran cleave to be able to get VR on the icicles

[young swan]

cleave was baseline...

[covert blaze]

no shot you said agatha was hard

[eternal sundial]

Friend of mine got wf xylem

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1165062419505233940.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[eternal sundial]

But he quit videogame for bfa

[young swan]

mald

[covert blaze]

not mad just... disappointed

[tardy lark]

any class with a little self sustain had a pretty easy time with agatha

[iron holly]

Question, WoWhead says wafting dev is best enchant followed by sophic. Does that mean I want wafting on both, or one of each?

[covert blaze]

you need to sim that

[iron holly]

fair, simming does say double wafting i just wanted to make sure it was accurate

[storm rune]

For ST that sounds right at least

[shy knot]

Back in legion both were easy

The arcane mage one was pretty tough

[hearty surge]

Piss easy

[gusty fern]

how much is mastery cap on fury ? the penalty amount

using crab and mirror

[violet trail]

There's an addon that gives you a little bar where it says" You are now in diminishing returns territory"

[sour badger]

is bank that small forever?

like ive bought upgrades

but is it max?

[violet trail]

True stat values is what it's called.

You need to add bags to your bank

Like there is slots to fill in

[sour badger]

omg for real

jesus

i thought that bank is too small

and upgrades were giving just one slot

[storm rune]

looks like you're using elvui or some sort of bag addon, you gotta click that button with the backpack to see your bag slots

would be a lot more obvious with the default ui, kinda played yourself here

[sour badger]

yeah elveui

got it suggested and without much changes in between like it so far

[storm rune]

oh yeah elvui is nice, but it changes a lot and makes some obvious things hidden or obscured behind options and toggles

[silver mantle]

Just started progressing Tindral. What are the chances we kill him before fated season drops?

[oblique trail]

Depending on the amount you raid a week, pretty likely

You have probably a month and a half to two months

[storm rune]

You'll be back here within 2 weeks showing off your new achievement

[silver mantle]

Checking another guild on the server, which is progressing Tindral, they have 414 pulls and are barely progressing p2

[storm rune]

Yeah but you're better than them

[silver mantle]

Ofc we are ❤️

[hearty surge]

414 pulls p2 is really bad

Like worst I've seen bad

[silver mantle]

I think so to. We managed to get to 2nd platform after 1 night of raiding. Albeit only half of us made it and we then promptly died 😄

[hearty surge]

I don't think we took 414 pulls for the whole raid

Actually on second thought, 500 is prolly more accurate

[storm rune]

There's this one korean guild I think it was, not world first or anything but those madlads had like a 4th of the total pulls pre-nerf compared to the median average

[oblique trail]

Skyline moment

What did they reach

1k almost?

[eternal sundial]

Skyline disbanded

[hearty surge]

1k

Y

[oblique trail]

Think I'd disband as well after 1k pulls on Tindral

[storm rune]

Man raid night must feel like being surrounded by toxic co-workers in your own home at that point

mother fuck, I just had another orange parse snatched away by a late lock-in

[hearty surge]

Got r1 on fyrakk snatched

[storm rune]

I had 1 orange parse this season week 1 as arms, forever cursed from then on to parse 94s for the rest of my days as fury

[hearty surge]

[clever path]

[flat sapphire]

I got an ornage parse and still orange

Think I went from top 81 fury to 108 tho on igira

For eu at least

[clever path]

I'm parsing purples cause no leggo

[storm rune]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hug-gif-26546176639434304

[hearty surge]

Leggo is the reason for sure

[clever path]

Naa Ilvl

My warrior is almost geared now tho

[storm rune]

I'll get the leggo one day, and on that day will be when my guild disbands and I never get to parse with it

[hearty surge]

Parsing this tier

[clever path]

Imma parse 100s in fated raids watch out

[hearty surge]

Got too many padders in guild

Can't pad myself

[storm rune]

Smoldy is the only time I care about parsing, pure ST and skill baby

[little saffron]

U def rely on your raid group for good parces

[red yew]

If I had 1k pulls on any raid boss I would quit game and hit my head so hard that I retain irreparable brain damage and memory loss!

[little saffron]

And volcross is pure ST aswell

[clever path]

Mythic parses seems to be Ilvl, skill, your guild

[hearty surge]

Yes you get a really good parse when boss dies in the intermission before your cool downs are ready

[oblique trail]

I will become a vegetable

[storm rune]

But then this would lead back to another 1k pulls on the boss because you don't remember doing it the first time

plus you're a warrior so you weren't using those brain cells anyways

[clever path]

Fastest key still AD right?

[hearty surge]

Y

[little saffron]

He wants those fast 18s for vault lol

[hearty surge]

Although I depleted it with 4 randoms on a 20 the other day

[clever path]

Naa i need 120 crests

To make cape + legs 486

[hearty surge]

I was top dps on my ret alt playing tank for the first time

[little saffron]

Ahh u making legs for keys?

[low widget]

When having Improved WW. Do I wanna reduce the overlap of the stacks with the procc from Odyns fury and second procc from Avatar?

[hearty surge]

Yes

[clever path]

naa, when i came back at start i crafted normal legs but I get 4k dps with both upgraded

Was arms now fury

Started prot lol

[little saffron]

My opinion but usually after you rampage and bloodbath twice it's good to hit avatar

[sly slate]

Yo. Been away from the game for some time. Wich type of fight do you use on raidbot to sim m+ or heavy cleave fights?

[hearty surge]

But as you play more you won't use that talent anymore

You'll play dancing blades instead

[hearty surge]

None, sim St and replace trinkets

[storm rune]

That's hella sad, my toxic ass MT joined me in an AD 20 and he decided to 100% clear the entire map while the key owner was fuming in chat the whole time and we still made it with like 8 minutes left

[low widget]

Should I just throw that out right away or is there a certain time where I should go for DB instead? Gear-wise or stat-wise?

[hearty surge]

Always

You should just play it instead

[clever path]

Ok whats the 2nd fastest

Ad dead

[hearty surge]

Dht

[low widget]

Ah okay. Just wanted to check. I just copied the talents from wowhead so hence the wondering

[hearty surge]

Or fall with good group

[clever path]

I'm just spamming 16s - 18s so it's a lottery

[hearty surge]

In guild we are doing about 13 Minutes atal runs and dht and fall are about 13:40 or so

[storm rune]

Fall can be bait if the puggles suck, watching people die 1 by 1 to the landslide ting on final boss is a sad way to deplete

[hearty surge]

So not much time lost

[clever path]

I hate when tanks single pull each dragon

In fall

Its like WHY

Just go ham

[hearty surge]

I mean on higher fortified you die

If you pull more

[clever path]

Yeah but not up to 20s

[hearty surge]

Or with bad healer

[covert blaze]

[barren dagger]

Some people parse pink mythic with no leggo

So…..

Skill issue

[clever path]

[hearty surge]

That's some fourth or fifth alt ilvl

[clever path]

/CRY

Sims higher than myth cloak tho kekw

Well this is new

[void valley]

Yeah its cool

[icy topaz]

Is that on details?

[clever path]

I assume so by the name

[void valley]

Its the damage graph thing

They added a "what key and rewards" thing to it

[icy topaz]

Cool

[clever path]

I like it

👍

[red yew]

No no more pulls because I quit

[red yew]

🤤

[shy knot]

1k pulls LOL

thats worse than FFXIV ultimates

[covert blaze]

become a tomato pls

inb4 tomato is a fruit

[red yew]

Vegetal

[round cargo]

for example when i have 43bb and 43 ramp everything is perfect?

[oblique trail]

yes

There are very few cases where you get unenraged due to downtime so you'd have to enrage again through a Rampage, wasting the bloodbath charge

But outside of that having equal BB and Ramp casts is ideal

[idle silo]

can anyone help me figure out logs?

[pulsar prawn]

#449510248579858432

[tardy lark]

that depends on what you mean by "figure out logs"

[idle silo]

yep found log review ty and i have no clue what im looking at

[tardy lark]

you kinda have to be more specific

[idle silo]

like if what im doing is wrong i mean i have good parses

[tardy lark]

Then you check what targets the guys with better parses damage more than you, how many casts they have of things comparatively, how long their killtime is and so on

[clever path]

has anyone had this bug for lego quest i teather myself to the rare mob and i didnt get the items for it, thats 3 rares in a row now

[tardy lark]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/handling-it-taut-tethercoil-bugged/495087

it bugged around 10pm EU yesterday

... while im at 46/50🤬

[eternal sundial]

Blizzard said naaahgaard

[clever path]

ah okay but does the superbloom part still work?

i'm 41/50

on the coils

[tardy lark]

nothing works

[queen epoch]

240k dps no leggo or augury fyrakk mythic

I think I did good

could have done better

[eternal sundial]

So based

[wintry robin]

Hello. I'm probably blind cuz I can't find any info about what Embilishments are currently best for raids. So, which are the best? Allied Wristsguard of Companionship + Shadowflame? Double Shadowflame? Or maybe some other options?

[red yew]

WALLIFE IS REAL??!?!??!

Or photoshop???

[tardy lark]

Photoshop

He’s ephemeral. Only there in your dreams.
Maybe

(I don’t know what ephemeral means)

[iron portal]

Mighty google says

lasting for only a short time:

[tardy lark]

okay, so my sentence wasnt complete mumbojumbo

[modest condor]

ephemeral is that guy from osu

[barren dagger]

ephemeral is all your leggoes cause it goes away next season

[mossy fox]

cant believe aagaard would say this about walli

[iron portal]

no toxic

[modest condor]

xdd

[elder epoch]

Leggo rare quest still bugged or?

[sinful spoke]

Man i cant wait for reclear

Fix all my parses

No more blues

Get mythic brand from smoldy

[versed plover]

Didn't work for me about 20 mins ago

[elder epoch]

nice

[eternal sundial]

Finally they made lego aquisition not a gamble - no one gets it

[covert blaze]

[iron portal]

Balanced as all things should be

[shy knot]

Crit got leggo yet ?

[pure echo]

is this tooltip bugged?

[oblique trail]

Evidently because that's not what Bloodcraze does

[red yew]

Ye but what if it was?

Haha that would be crazy amirite good thing it isn't

Unless...?

[oblique trail]

I will cast Annihilator on you 5 times then rampage afterwards for 10% more damage

[tepid shore]

Oh Slaughtering Strikes got a makeover.

[flat sapphire]

Is there any way to find pugs for m+ that isnt as stupid as normal pugs

[modest condor]

nope

[flat sapphire]

Dam

:(

[modest condor]

i mean

even if there is

if they make it public anybody can join and it just turns into lfg but with extra steps again

[flat sapphire]

yea thats true

I dont wanna commit to a m+ team

dont got that time

so pugs it is

[clever path]

are you eu>

[half cargo]

Pugging as a warrior is far more time consuming than doing it with a team

[clever path]

or na?

[half cargo]

Extremely inefficient

[barren dagger]

A team chains you to the desk when you might have a real life though

With pugs i can just play whenever i want

[clever path]

brudda

are you EU or NA

[covert blaze]

Na, I'd win

[warm crag]

ya zhai

[clever path]

[flat sapphire]

Eu sorry

was watching video

[unreal onyx]

格鲁格发现火 grug discover fire 啟動橙色棒 activate orange stick 快速狂怒 fast fury 保护贵宾 protect the VIP 移动=死亡 move=death

any1 know why my rio addon doesn't show my raid progress anymore? I didn't change anything in the settings

[warm crag]

beste durchläufe aller dungeons

[half cargo]

Can’t tell you why, but it’s happened to me before fairly recently and just fixed itself in the next update

[unreal onyx]

fair, ty

[unreal onyx]

mythischer Schlüsselstein: Dämmerung der Ewigen: Murozonds Auferstehung

[warm crag]

the fires of a thousand suns

[unreal onyx]

Amirdrassil, Hoffnung des Traums

[worldly shard]

when is s4?

[barren dagger]

April

[unreal onyx]

sure?

I would've guessed may

[dire vigil]

10.2.7 will probably be April

10.3 May

[summer quail]

we don't know, i think it will be late march early april

[dire vigil]

No way it’s that early with 10.2.6 and 10.2.7 still to come

[summer quail]

10.2.7 is after s4

[half cargo]

Did they even confirm a 10.2.6?

[ember apex]

yeah it's coming in march

[unreal onyx]

that's not S4, is it?

[summer quail]

10.2.6 could be anytime. i don't see anything that says march directly

[ember apex]

not on that graphic but they put out a blog post

saying march

[silver dawn]

They literally said March this week

[summer quail]

oh did they? mb

[ember apex]

march is the month that comes after february

which is this month

afaik

actually yeah im 100% on that march is the month that's coming up next for sure

[summer quail]

no one said anything else?

[ember apex]

i say a lot of things

shall i say more?

[unreal onyx]

you shall say that I still get CE

bc I will be not able to play for the next 5 weeks

[ember apex]

u still get CE

o.0

didnt u just start fyragg prog

[unreal onyx]

yes

we're making it through p1

[ember apex]

what are u doing for 5 weeks going on survivor?

thats ur favorite phase

[unreal onyx]

1 week bench bc no point in me raiding prog, 2 weeks business trip, 2 weeks vacay

[ember apex]

where u going on vacation

[unreal onyx]

florida

visiting friends

[ember apex]

pog

i need to head there eventually ive never been i feel like its a more humid soCal which is where im from

[hasty path]

Considering there’s no 10.3…

[ember apex]

except florida is flat and has no mountains

and i like hiking

[unreal onyx]

I think my flight time is like 13h

with 15h total travel time

[ember apex]

where u flying from north alaska

[unreal onyx]

germany

[ember apex]

oh alright. how do u know florida bros

[unreal onyx]

gaming for ~8 years

[dire vigil]

Season 4?

[hasty path]

Is not 10.3

[dire vigil]

Ok so what is it?

[hasty path]

10.2.6 or 7

[ember apex]

i think the trip should have been them to germany, more stuff to do there

imo

idk i like europe every time i go

[hasty path]

They would have put .3 on the roadmap. Shadowlands also did not have .3

[dire vigil]

Aren’t the .6 and .7 patches in the same season?

[unreal onyx]

yes, but that's expensive for them

[hasty path]

That’s what’s unclear

[unreal onyx]

(also was for me, but I can afford it)

[ember apex]

ah ok

[dire vigil]

Ohh really? I thought shadowlands S4 was 9.3

[unreal onyx]

next time prob

[ember apex]

yeah b/c u prob what fly into NJ/NYC + take a flight south right

[summer quail]

from looking at the roadmap it seems like 10.2.6 is before s4

[unreal onyx]

layover in atlanta on the way there and one in detroit on the way back

[ember apex]

gotcha

[summer quail]

and 10.2.7 in s4

[dire vigil]

Ok I see

[ember apex]

are they gun bros

[hasty path]

Which seems bizarre to me. I find it more reasonable/likely .7 will launch with s4 and contain the major changes

[unreal onyx]

sadly no, but I will still force them to go to a gun range with me

[ember apex]

smart.

[dire vigil]

I was looking at the mountain thane hero talent tree again and if I’m seeing this correctly, replacing whirlwind with Thunder clap and the talent in the hero tree to provide 50% buff to thunderclap is going to buff our AOE a bit

[hasty path]

Looking at any numbers in the trees is pointless right now

[ember apex]

i have a cousin who lives in europe who is a literal communist (but he's very nice to me) i took him shooting and he was super agianst it but had a great time and i ended up taking him more times

[summer quail]

well we don't know shit about the tuning

[hasty path]

The trees are very early iterations and are highly likely t change

[summer quail]

but you are correct in that we replace WW with TC in that tree

[dire vigil]

Well hopefully the point remains and it solves our aoe issue a little bit.

[dire vigil]

You are a snarky snarky boy

[cyan flume]

I wouldn't bet on it

[dire vigil]

Pain.

[clever path]

isnt that Syi

Syis shit he wrote in his bio

[cyan flume]

Wouldn't swapping tclap for whirlwind essentially make us take a dead talent in order to access shockwave?

[clever path]

That's a man

[summer quail]

it's not

[cyan flume]

Barbaric training and seismic reverb both gate that part of the tree

[summer quail]

if we keep the current talent tree yes, also i would assume that all ww buffing talents would affect tc

[clever path]

Yes Syi is a femboy

[dire vigil]

Yea all the stuff for WW translates to TC

[clever path]

Sorry I didnt know

[cerulean spire]

Is there a way to sim all the crafted weapon combinations without having them? Stat wise I mean

[summer quail]

hopefully it does, but you never know

[cyan flume]

The talent does not say that

[dire vigil]

It says so in the hero talents

[clever path]

Gear compare

[dire vigil]

Meat cleaver, improved whirlwind = buff to TC as well as WW

Idk about storm of swords though. Probably

If it’s back to BT + annih build

[summer quail]

i am aware it does not say that. i just assume it is going to work that way, otherwise it would be kinda garbage

[clever path]

Blizzard won't let me play my warrior

[cyan flume]

Well kind of garbage is the fury way 👍

[clever path]

nice mog

Should i change to Kul tiran warrior

[acoustic furnace]

Play dwarf

[clever path]

Screw dwarf

[acoustic furnace]

Play dwarf

[dire vigil]

I made dwarf paladin last night. Might as well try out blizz new favorite plate child

Been leveling as prot and it’s pretty fun

[acoustic furnace]

I'm also leveling Prot pally but I did lightforged dranei

[clever path]

No I was a dwarf then Nelf then human then blizzard locked my account due to refund so only way to unlock char is either wait hours for ticket response or race change again but now I'm thinking of going thick daddy kultiran

[dire vigil]

I just want to be like Naowh and I’m pretty sure his is a dwarf

Jump, get on charger, judgement, huge pull, don’t die, everyone cheers

[clever path]

Stoneform meh

[dire vigil]

If I get sick of it I’ll change to human but my warrior is human and I like some variety

[acoustic furnace]

Bro w h a t?

[clever path]

I'm gonna unlock kul tiran rn screw it

[clever path]

W o w i c a n d i s p e l l m y s e l f e v e r y 2 m i n s b u t i a m s h o r t a n d u g l y

[acoustic furnace]

I play dwarf bc Ive loved dwarves ever since i watched LOTR as a kid. And bc of Dwarf Fortress. Stone form is just icing on the cake.

[dire vigil]

Dwarf pally is a good aesthetic. Human is better for warrior imo

[acoustic furnace]

Nah they actually look good in a lot of tmog

[clever path]

Their feet too big

[acoustic furnace]

If looking good in tmog is your main concern play nelf. Tall, normal build, and the only big race with normal feet.

[clever path]

Nelf too skinny

Was nelf hate nelf

Human best

But apparently i cannot play as human anymore so now time for thick daddy chungus kul tiran

[unreal onyx]

was belf now nelf

nelf best

[acoustic furnace]

Play dranei if the hooves don't bug you. My lightforged paladin looks fuckin sweet but I won't lie I wish I could have normal boots.

[clever path]

-1.5k dps reeeeeeeeeee

Blizzard has cursed me

[dire vigil]

Apex Kul’Tiran

[clever path]

Hell yeah brother

I am big fat bald albanian monster so kul tiran is what i am

[dire vigil]

Kyriakos Grizzly^

[clever path]

Watch me race change and it still be locked

[worldly shard]

watch me do big dam now

3sockets in a row

lol

[unreal onyx]

I got 3 in a row too, then this week finally myth shoulders

[blazing dawn]

is the legendary quest rere farm bugged ?

i dont get the items from it

[unreal onyx]

I think it's been bugged since yesterday

or at least I think I read it in here

[blazing dawn]

nice 🙂

[acoustic furnace]

Bro I'm so glad I finished that shit right before they broke it

Woulda cried if I spent weeks raiding for Lego and then couldn't even finish getting. Rip to those getting cucked by blizz.

[blazing dawn]

dude how the fuck did they broke a item drop, that worked

XD

[modest condor]

same lol i finished it the night before it broke

[unreal onyx]

I thought Nomeraturs WA was broken

but it only works in raid not open world

[blazing dawn]

when did they brake it ?

[unreal onyx]

yesterday iirc

[acoustic furnace]

They broke one of the quests associated with the drop. Small patch came out yesterday and bricked it.

[blazing dawn]

love it 🙂

[balmy shore]

was it just for eu?

[ember apex]

not just for eu but for me too

also i can confirm this bug exists on NA b/c i know someone who got it last night and he's experiencing the same issue

[graceful talon]

it's broken on na too

[drifting cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8EDTavyWuzrtwMwmz1ka37 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e8wAsX7okxsgDbmwh8idZB

[ember apex]

also here's a blackpill for u

[drifting cloud]

hello just tried some rb sims and i noticed that crit seems to be worse than versa on st ? but better on aoe ?

[ember apex]

RB sims? raging blow?

[drifting cloud]

raidbots

sorry

[ember apex]

raidbots poggers i know that site

yeah crit is better on AoE

sry i didnt answer

[drifting cloud]

because i mainly do m+ but the stats seem so confusing

[ember apex]

yeah crit sims better in aoe technically but vers also has defensive value

[modest condor]

couple of crit buffs dont really work on aoe, on top of something that procs off of crit being stronger on aoe

so yeah, crit gains value on aoe

[drifting cloud]

so maybe 25% would be a sweet spot in m+ ?

[modest condor]

wouldnt worry about percentages

[ember apex]

ppl usually sim ST + 5Target and balance the two if they do M+. i just follow ST sims since that's all i care about really. my M+ dps is good enough

but im not pushing past my current 3k IO so if ur doing crazy shit u would know ur needs better than me answering ur questions

[dense tinsel]

guys anyone is having fury war weird bug like

nearly ever time after casting Rampage of my fury warrior it autocasts the Bloodbath proc, ive tried moving it around on my bars, swapping out keyboards, swapping out mice, messing around with addons and settings and nothing I can find fixes it, anyone else having this issue? if so is there an easy fix?

its driving me nuts

[modest condor]

do you have that weird macro that puts rampage and bloodbath on the same button

[dense tinsel]

no never used it

[modest condor]

then idk

never heard of something like that

[dense tinsel]

i only ever saw 1 person having this problem

its driving me insane

[ember apex]

i have the opposite where sometimes a Bloodbath doesnt go off even if its pressed and requires 2 globals to go thru

but thats random and happens maybe once a pull if that

[clever path]

Still no ticket response about my warrior being locked due to billing error which is Blizzards mistake not mine. Unlocked kultiran, On cooldown for service, Time to log off and call it a day

[serene moat]

Microsoft polishing up some games, ain't it?

[upper wigeon]

Broken legendary quests

[tardy lark]

just macro the first 70 globals of fury opener

[ember apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/470251200353402890.webp?size=48&name=wesmart&quality=lossless

[tardy lark]

actually illegal design that that is possible

[silent burrow]

have you tried force quitting whatever software is mapping your mouse and stuff? Mine used to do shit like this with the logitech software.

It would open multiple profile simultaneously so a single button would press multiple

[gleaming siren]

Why do people not target their own spears on Igira

[modest condor]

because it's unnecessary

they should die to aoe/cleave

[warm crag]

igira is impossible if you dont st swap to your own spear

[ember apex]

almost spit out my drink

[covert coyote]

I don’t think that’s true

[young swan]

if i ever have to swap to my own spear i would simply leave the group

[gleaming siren]

Exactly

[ember apex]

Here's Xan back to timeout anyone who disagrees w/ him

[young swan]

heres carlo back to say incorrect things and get upset when a person with power tells them to stop saying incorrect things

[oblique trail]

[gleaming siren]

[ember apex]

imagine flexing being a discord mod lmao

[young swan]

not flexing shit

just stating facts

[ember apex]

🤣

[modest condor]

you're really trying to speedrun another timeout arent you

[ember apex]

i havent broken any rules

[gleaming siren]

@acoustic furnace Did you end up killing Nymue, king?

[modest condor]

no, if you had you would be banned instead

timeouts are for people who need to take a break

if you have an issue with xan just ignore his existence

it's what i do with people i don't like

[oblique trail]

The block function is insane

Tried and tested method on Carlo

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail hop on vc

[oblique trail]

nej

Currently playing Baldurs with friend

[ember apex]

i dont have an issue w/ anyone it was a playful ribbing on his tendencies

[dire vigil]

I’m the “spear guy” in my group. I only attack the spears, never swap to boss.

Does anyone else have that role in their group?

[ember apex]

rekt

[oblique trail]

For everyones sake I hope not

[covert coyote]

I’ve not heard of an assigned spear pumper but my guild only just started M this week. Didn’t seem necessary for our first night

[rich loom]

anyone have a WA to track trinket procs?

[eternal sundial]

i have the role of play optimally for my class

[oblique trail]

There are no trinket procs you need to track

[eternal sundial]

which for fury randomy mean shitting spears

[dire vigil]

I just charge spears and leap to others

[eternal sundial]

if im arms im hitting boss 🤷‍♂️

[dire vigil]

That’s my job

[rich loom]

i mean I like knowing when they proc tho

[eternal sundial]

ur not playing spears right then

[oblique trail]

It's useless info, but you can probably find WA's for them on Wago

[rich loom]

weren't any good ones for augury/butchers block

[covert coyote]

Her hit box is so big, you can cleave onto 4 spears at once with proper placement anyway

[dire vigil]

We line the spears up in one row and then I just attack them until they’re dead

[eternal sundial]

mhm yea i will now change rotation after this crit proc

[young swan]

yeah u need to stop doing that

you should venn diagram them in a circle around the boss

[rich loom]

i can't read

[dire vigil]

Guys I’m totally messing around lol I stand in the middle and destroy them with OF, TR, and Avatar

[clever belfry]

????

[warm crag]

give me a vod or a screenshot right now please

[dire vigil]

😂😭😂😭😂

[warm crag]

that sounds fucking hilarious

[dire vigil]

Thanks for playing around with the bit though Lmaoo

[warm crag]

idc if its fake news

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[gleaming siren]

You HAVE to do it now

[dire vigil]

It really does sound hilarious though

[gleaming siren]

Or you will be robbed of your Warrior privileges

[dire vigil]

I’ll suggest it as “the new meta strat”

I’ve always use the spear assign WA and I just stand in the middle and if done correctly, OF + TR will hit all of them

[eternal sundial]

incredible tech

[dire vigil]

Then it’s back to boss

Incredible tech is stacking all the spears on top of tank

[eternal sundial]

you must be doing 300k dps on it then

[dire vigil]

I’ve peaked pretty high during the fight but sometimes I mess up the CDs and pop an OF like right before they come up :/

Bad tech, worse player

[dapper goblet]

as a victim of random timeouts this doesnt matter

[clever belfry]

playing victim card gg

[warm crag]

@tidal kindle times people out at will

[dire vigil]

Warriors are supposed to persevere. Never the victim, always the victor!

[eternal sundial]

is green parsing being a victim

if so rip my mage 😔

[gleaming siren]

🪞

[eternal sundial]

Gummiwand 😔

[clever belfry]

reported

[dire vigil]

Grey parse = “why didn’t you play around my CDs? Hold dps until my 2 mins are up”

[covert coyote]

Before anonymous communication, if people were being shits they’d just get checked or knocked out. Be glad it’s just a timeout.

[eternal sundial]

me when i punch xeos for being xeos

[dire vigil]

What is “anonymous communication”?

[eternal sundial]

communication ocurring anonymously

[dire vigil]

Could you see everyone’s personal info on disc before or something?

[covert coyote]

Like right now we’re anonymous

[eternal sundial]

i have your bnet based off of your tmog you posted earlier

[covert coyote]

Anything with a screen in between just about

[dire vigil]

How? I mean I don’t care but genuinely curious

[eternal sundial]

well you can track ur logs

go to wowprog and if ur char is linked ur bnet is public

its not so ur safe

[dire vigil]

Did you just look up Hoarahloux and then sift through who had the same mog?

[eternal sundial]

for example

[eternal sundial]

there was 4 chars

2 were level 70

not overly difficult

[dire vigil]

Ahh I see what you’re saying lol

Ok

[eternal sundial]

nothing to be scared about really like what am i gonna do with your bnet

add you as a friend as a threat ?

[velvet basalt]

Can someone who has the legendary help answer a question for me. I have killed two rares now with the rune tether activated and have no gotten a tethercoil yet

[eternal sundial]

bugged as of yesterday

cannot complete it rn

[dire vigil]

Haha yeah, I thought you meant that there was some privacy change in discord and your personal info like name, etc, was just widely available to everyone else you shared disc channels with

[upper wigeon]

Bugged

[velvet basalt]

So am I just wasting my time

[upper wigeon]

yep

[velvet basalt]

Wow

[upper wigeon]

probably wont be patched till Monday at earliest

[dire vigil]

Man.. glad I don’t have to deal with that. Doesnt even have leggo yet

[upper wigeon]

ooof

[dire vigil]

It is ooof! I agree!

[velvet basalt]

of course, blizzard employees only work on mondays

[upper wigeon]

got mine Tuesday and i only have 1 quest to get it done but its bugged

[upper wigeon]

EU side went home for the weekend so

[velvet basalt]

Did you farm out the shadeleaf solo or recruit help?

[upper wigeon]

I did a mix of joining raids on the raid finder then leaving to join my own realm for the last bpss kill

[dire vigil]

maybe next week maybe next week

[upper wigeon]

made it go by really fast

[upper wigeon]

when i got 11 lessers just this week

i knew i was getting it

[velvet basalt]

I got it as prot

[dire vigil]

Oh wow. I have snagged quite a few this past couple weeks

[velvet basalt]

along with mythic rageheart lol

[dire vigil]

I guess I’ll complete heroic this week and do skip before Fyrakk next week

For extra chances

[upper wigeon]

I would

[dire vigil]

Maybe greaters are like 5% chance + and lessers are like 1% chance +

Or they’re just a sugar pill 👀

[jovial coral]

Think that's a bit cope bud

[dire vigil]

Cope cope cope!!!!

No, cope is playing other classes. This is just speculating

And actually, dumb speculation because the greater you get from HC is actually 3 “greaters” wrapped in 1 drop

[sullen dove]

11 lessers in 1 week my ass

[dire vigil]

All tied up with a bow. Open the wrapped gift and you get a middle finger inside

[upper wigeon]

When you get one from 3 mythic bosses and 8 heroic bosses

ez

[final eagle]

can you get lessers on normal??

[sullen dove]

surely that’s ever happened ever

[sullen dove]

and no

[dire vigil]

I got a good amount from the past few runs I’ve done, felt somewhat notable

this is my week this is my week on loop

[upper wigeon]

Sounds like youre just unlucky

[young swan]

hes not unlucky hes just paying for getting augury and signet w1

[snow storm]

Pretty sure most of the dev related stuff is done in the US so there's still a shard of hopium the bugged quests get fixed before the weekend starts in the states

I'm in the same boat just need shadowbinding quests and then I'm done with everything.

[lilac totem]

is the legendary still bugged from yesterday? still cant complete the rare quest and havent really seen or heard anything

[acoustic furnace]

Starting Smolderon prog next week 🙂

[upper wigeon]

Yes.

[lilac totem]

aight cool cool

didnt want it for M fyrakk prog anyways

[clever path]

im so glad i speedran my leggo

no breaks until i got it

[swift cradle]

lol this guy

Yeah guys, shouldn’t of been lazy and just speed ran your legos

[lilac totem]

yeah honestly my bad i didnt get it week 1 like naowh and meeres and them

[clever path]

?

[young swan]

its not like he accused anyone of being lazy

[high sapphire]

Sorry, wowhead recomended it only half way throu patch

[clever path]

bro legit

[young swan]

dont be weird

[clever path]

[swift cradle]

Just tilted, 43/50 since I logged off Wednesday night

[high sapphire]

I love your name

[young swan]

definitely unacceptable on blizzards behalf

[dire vigil]

What’s lazy is people relying on 10% of their damage from a weapon. Make that up yourself like a real gamer!!!

[upper wigeon]

Indie devs patch things like this faster

[young swan]

and its pretty outrageous that it hasnt been fixed yet

[dire vigil]

Non-leggo enjoyer

[clever path]

i got it this week too and did it on reset day cause i was so sick of not having it and just had free time

[upper wigeon]

you enjoy not having it?

[clever path]

im not accusing anyone of being lazy

[tepid scroll]

Non leggo fury has to be bottom damage yeah?

[lilac totem]

sorry for my attitude, like avenged said im honestly tilted off the face of the earth rn

[clever path]

pretty much

[tepid scroll]

If we aren’t counting add padding

[upper wigeon]

I beat people in DPS

[dire vigil]

No but I am in a state of not enjoying the legendary

[clever path]

at 488 i was the lowest simming char on st in my guild

[upper wigeon]

Ah the ZEN state

[clever path]

now with leggo as arms i am one of the highest

[upper wigeon]

i have brand

[tepid scroll]

Two mistakes with the Lego. It feels bad to press and sucks we were balanced around having it(like all str melee dps)

[upper wigeon]

i need augury

[clever path]

idk i like pressing it

[dire vigil]

3rd mistake: rewarding based solely on RNG

[upper wigeon]

[clever path]

thats the real mistake

[tepid scroll]

4th mistake not playing agi dps

[dire vigil]

5th mistake, starting to play WOW at all

[upper wigeon]

agi users 🤮

[clever path]

i love when my dmg depends on an rng drop

and i have no control over it

[high sapphire]

Have you mentioned that embers are basically cosmetic, because they dont work untill they do?

[dire vigil]

Ahh, yes. Embers

[high sapphire]

Nah im on phone

[dire vigil]

I see now

[tepid scroll]

I’ve just been playing Palworld and log in for my weekly disappointment with Fyrakk

486 no Lego

[dire vigil]

488 no leggo brother

[tepid scroll]

Oof 😦

[high sapphire]

486 and same, no lego, no augury

[dire vigil]

488 full bis except for 489 gloves and axe, brother

And 496 augury technically but ya know..

[tepid scroll]

Next tier (fated) we will have more options outside of cds. Outside of cds rn feels whack in terms of damage

Hit like a wet noodle

[high sapphire]

Like what?

[dire vigil]

Raging blow raging blow raging blow

Cashier sound: bloodthirst

[high sapphire]

Season 2 tier is winnign?

[dire vigil]

It won

It’s over, many moons ago

[high sapphire]

Jesus lets go

[dire vigil]

Jesus plays Ret

So he doesn’t care

[high sapphire]

Boy i sure do love pressing buttons

[tepid scroll]

Jesus plays holy priest for sure

[dire vigil]

Jesus loves the new PI hero talents

[high sapphire]

Fair

[tepid scroll]

I just wish holy was better in m+

[sudden thicket]

imagine my luck

[dire vigil]

Lol

[snow marlin]

you mean noodle raging blow noodle raging blow noodle rampage, 1 big crit bloodthist that's less than current bloodthirst crit? Or at least that's how i remember previous season 😄

[tepid scroll]

Finally mid 😂

[tepid scroll]

I just remember higher reck / Ava uptime felt like more consistent damage outside of cds

Now outside of cds you do tank damage

[clever path]

yeah and now u have 3 big bbs

and then nothing

not even noodle damage

play arms if u want big numbers

[tepid scroll]

Not even ramen damage

[clever path]

its just as fast

[snow marlin]

my fingers will hate me again though

[clever path]

current fury isnt any slower than last season

slightly slower

[tepid scroll]

Your gf will love you tho

[dire vigil]

S3 build to me is way more fun than the RB spam but constant reck Ravager is a fair tradeoff

[snow marlin]

😉

[clever path]

i just loved 2 sets of cds

every single pack on high keys

[tepid scroll]

True

[clever path]

and in lower keys

cds every pack

[tepid scroll]

Before godcomp wasn’t fury like a good pick for dmg??

[clever path]

fury was meta before aug and mage rework

[dire vigil]

I wish there was a way to have reckless abandon on the crazy bloodthirst hit to make it a bloodbath

[high sapphire]

I liked s2 raging blow because of better rampage buffing from talents

[clever path]

people think fury in s2 had weak st

which is just

false

[dire vigil]

Would be sicko mode

[clever path]

fury had really good st in s2

[high sapphire]

20% instead of what? 4?

[dire vigil]

Nah I remember topping meters quite a bit with S2 fury

[tepid scroll]

If your BT didn’t get parried

[clever path]

it cant

in dungeons

parry is only in raids

[dire vigil]

S2 was more competitive than S3, but now we’re going to have to trust that all the different seasons will be balanced well

[clever path]

i guess it could on iridikron cause he is coded as a raid boss iirc

[snow marlin]

but ye, shorter cd's felt better in m+ thats true, i do miss that

[clever path]

fury is very competitive this season

[dire vigil]

If it’s balanced poorly, we could really suck

[clever path]

just not at relevant key levels

fury is competitive in 31s atm

[dire vigil]

I know it is, but I think it was more so last season

[gleaming siren]

Beast

[dire vigil]

I don’t really have many complaints with this season

[clever path]

fury lives alone

[clever belfry]

beast

[high sapphire]

How many 31n were done so far?

[clever path]

other classes need someone to babysit them

a lot

and a lot more to be done

[oblique trail]

powerful

[clever path]

2 really good weeks in a row

[dire vigil]

I did, but when I really think about m+ and how I crush other classes on the boss fights, it makes sense that we’re not also top damage on big aoe

[solemn plover]

huge beast spotted

[dire vigil]

And when I play well, I do well in raid amongst the group, so there’s not a complaint there either

[acoustic furnace]

Aw u guys ur making me blush

IM A BEAST BABY

[dire vigil]

Everyone always wants their shit buffed. It is what it is. If you won $1m lottery you might even think “well damn I wish it was $2m”

[eternal sundial]

pumped

[acoustic furnace]

I actually am pumped bro

First season raiding mythic and I'm poised to get at least 7/9

Feels good

[dire vigil]

Yeah it’s fun. This is my first time getting far into the mythic raid, as well.

[upper wigeon]

Hey guys guess what they did?!?!?

[eternal sundial]

broke lego mainly

[upper wigeon]

Yessssir they didn't fix shit yet

Guess I'm playing Dota tonight

[gleaming siren]

Keep pumping

[swift cradle]

Earthquake in south cali

It’s prob gg for those bug* fixes* today

[upper wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/school-rage-headphones-gif-14792605

[light stump]

Is dreamsurge stuff faster than M+ for farming flightstones? And if I mainly just need flightstones, should I farm like 16s? Or even lower?

[acoustic furnace]

Do baby keys honestly

[light stump]

level doesn't matter?

M0?

[dire vigil]

Iridikron’s pissed

[warm crag]

if you want to farm flightstones the most efficient way probably is still seed farming lol

[snow storm]

It was my fault the Legendary quest bugged out. Pulled Myth track Augury from vault and lego dropped from Fyrakk. It was too much of a good thing to happen in one week so it broke the game.

[covert blaze]

do seeds

[young swan]

there wasnt "outside of cd's" last season

[jovial coral]

Sure there was

When you were out of combat innit

[clever path]

even then u had leftover reck

[young swan]

[hoary crystal]

Hi, noob question: i play only m+, which fight style should i pick when simming? dungeon slice or patchwerk? and if the 2nd how many targets/duration? thanks in advance. I've checked the guides and I didn't find any recomendation on that. (the example gif had 5min 1 target patchwerk but i think i was wondering if i should pick something else)

[snow storm]

Only real downside I felt with S2 Fury was that it felt like you got significantly more punished by uptime loss than now. But man do I miss riding the 20 second ReckRav hype train.

[clever path]

All i care about is outdpsing rets on aoe in m+ next season

Is it too much to ask

Is it even possible next season

[snow storm]

If Ret and Fury are in similar spots Ret wins by default due to having boatloads of utility while we have..... nerfed rallying cry.

[eternal sundial]

if you play arms ye

[clever path]

In what world does having 1 weapon in 2 hands is better than having 2 hands and 2 weapons

[open prairie]

a world where a guy with 2 sticks

[eternal sundial]

in videogame with tuning

[open prairie]

is better

[eternal sundial]

[restive peak]

I'm bout to pass my warr as pink guys....bittersweet 😦

Lack of leggo on warr problems

[open prairie]

utility is cope lets be real

all about dam

[restive peak]

Sadly the dam is also better 😦

[open prairie]

dh exists though

[young swan]

dh cant live

[open prairie]

havoc would be more prominent if vdh wasnt busted

[clever path]

Hate purples

Die purple die

[open prairie]

can they not with rageheart

[open prairie]

hate augs

and healers

[clever path]

Yeah screw augs

[open prairie]

have movement external

[restive peak]

The ridiculous part of ret honestly is the fact that I have so many defensives

[open prairie]

priest healer would like to know your location

[restive peak]

That as long as I pop 1 before big damdam bursts I can't die

[young swan]

anyone can live with rageheart but why do that when u can just live without rageheart and use a diff trinket

[eternal sundial]

you should try yellow or light blue sometime

[open prairie]

though idk why but

[untold moth]

I heard next expansion has War within it, warrior rework confirmed?

[restive peak]

I hated outlaw, my rogue is fairly geared but it's boring AF

[open prairie]

i like disc pvp players

[clever path]

Yes

[open prairie]

pve hpriest players aint people

though

egirl spec

[eternal sundial]

expansion changes always include class changes

[clever path]

It literally has war in its name

[eternal sundial]

like SL removing TOM (good)

and df adding TOM back (bad)

[untold moth]

Hell yeah, Warriors are back bb

[young swan]

[open prairie]

do they give priests mobility

[eternal sundial]

they could make you play some vile shit like s1 crushing blow

[clever path]

Imagine they unprune classes again, paladins will get blessings , and warrior will get heroic strike

[eternal sundial]

you never know

[restive peak]

Surely we get reworked man

We are dogwater

[open prairie]

or is oracle a tradeoff for them asking for every external on the game

“can i get rescue”

replace rescue with time spiral paradox or spellbop

as needed

[young swan]

id like that

[restive peak]

Me too baethang

Meee toooooo

[open prairie]

external eddy class

[young swan]

i think probably the biggest issue with the fury tree, dead talents aside, is the fact that each of our core rotational abilities have an entire side of the tree dedicated towards them when in reality they should contain both sets of talents in one cluster i.e. where the RB/execute/ww stuff is should just be BT/ww/rb

[open prairie]

i think evokers getting 30yd range is more likely

than warrior rework

[young swan]

pigeonholing us into either mashing bt or mashing rb and never pressing the other is extremely bland

[open prairie]

the issue with melee is most melee dont complain about being bad

[restive peak]

Ye, the fury tree doesn't flow at all compared to literally every other class I've played and it sucks

[open prairie]

like ranged players do

[clever belfry]

who wouldnt

oh right.

[clever path]

Why is your pfp evoker icon in jail ?

[oblique trail]

You disappear into space dust in an instant

[restive peak]

Starting key luvyu

[open prairie]

be like mages and complain when you’re middle of the pack

[clever belfry]

i wish kingus

[open prairie]

get reworked mid expac

with 0 announcement

[open prairie]

because aug sucks

but its broken

[clever belfry]

thats why

surely.

[open prairie]

i mean people will argue aug is “mandatory”

and tbh no one i know likes playing aug

besides m+ players playing 2k io above their skill

[modest condor]

damn so if i played aug i could be 4k rio

[desert cloud]

definetly

[edgy widget]

idk if I agree with that, there's a good amount of synergy in the fury tree

[edgy widget]

this kinda goes both ways - on the one hand, it's interesting that there are two distinct ways of building; the other side of that coin is the Arms tree, where every single build wants (more or less) all the same talents

[open prairie]

tbh idk if i would say fury tree is bad pathed

people will say general class tree and shockwave’s placement is bad

but ehhh….

[young swan]

feel like shockwave is pretty inarguable

when its competeing with pure throughput

as an aoe stun

[open prairie]

yeah no way why a utility talent is so deep

[edgy widget]

Warrior trees were very highly regarded at the start of the expansion, I think a lot of the current criticism is just kinda random finger pointing over general unhappiness with the staste of performance

e.g. would these "problems" be problems if the spec were a top performer atm? I have my doubts

[open prairie]

monk tree is worse overall

imo

[edgy widget]

Back on this topic though, there are potential solutions to marry the two sides of the tree - I've harped on it before, but the idea of making Bloodcraze stack passively would promote using Bloodthirst regularly to trigger CSHB without actually using it on cooldown (much like the Dragonflight Season 2 tier set bonus does), thereby still allowing room in the rotation for RB

problem is that you can't really have both though - there are only so many GCDs, so you just can't really use BT and RB on cooldown, especially not with how often we cast Rampage

[young swan]

speaking for myself here, but i am generally fine with warrior performance atm; I'm just tired of playing fundamentally the same spec since bfa. I'm sure the majority are just generally dissatisfied with warrior performance and are hopping on the bandwagon though

and actually I think ideally i'd like a playstyle similar to what we had during BoD in bfa

where you're basically pressing bt on cd, managing rb stacks, pressing rampage when possible/maximizing enrage uptime

I definitely agree that its a hard balance to strike especially with how our rage economy has gone off the rails to where enrage is virtually never a variable you think about

[edgy widget]

Yeah I get that, my solution was kinda going the opposite route - RB on CD, BT intermittently (~8s)

thing is there's been a lot of inflation since BoD, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a BT on CD + RB rotation that works without dramatically reducing rage economy & Rampage use

[clever belfry]

i wouldnt even hate going back to something akin to legion inner rage where u kinda just rotated
bt rb filler bt rb ramp

[edgy widget]

Yeah, you'd basically have to nuke the RB reset mechanic

[young swan]

yeah the inflation has gotten kind of insane

[edgy widget]

I don't think that's really a problem though - there's certainly some preference in the rotation; inevitably some people will like one idea more than another, and that's fine

but there's nothing wrong with Fury's current rotation either, and it is still quite popular

[young swan]

I think something that might help significantly, and this was gregorosens idea, is bringing back the tomb tier (albeit watered down somewhat) to where rb buffs your next bt and vice versa

[edgy widget]

Yeah, some kind of talent like that would certainly help you weave more

[young swan]

the mindless mashing in either build I think is sort of the root of the problem for me

and to that point, while anni + SoS was an interesting experiment, I don't think it panned out for fury

certainly works well for ret and dh, but after a tier with it, I don't think it has a place for this spec

[clever belfry]

my fav spec this season is unironically Rav RA OF

[edgy widget]

I actually think the current Annihilator rotation is a lot more engaging, the RB focused one is much more "mindless mashing" imo, though I don't dislike either

[clever belfry]

in terms of gameplay that is

[fickle bluff]

b-b-based

[clever belfry]

the only other spec that competes in basedness is loboz spec ofc.

[oblique trail]

loboz build

[edgy widget]

I enjoy it in M+; why I want them to make Onslaught the ST talent and OF the MT one, instead of playing the game of "which is tuned better this patch?"

[clever belfry]

i played around with OF > OS for keys a bit last season

it kinda worked but the loss on ST was just sike

[solemn plover]

i like warrior in m+ because its aoe is strong

[clever path]

might as well play ret at that point

[edgy widget]

it works, it just lacks the synergy of Ons

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/60T5g0e.png noob obtain rageheart

[edgy widget]

it works this season too if you just want raw AoE burst

[clever path]

imo anni just feels so out of place for a capstone

why cant it be like crusading strikes

[edgy widget]

I don't see why

I mean it basically is crusading strikes

[clever belfry]

last season it was obviously with RA xd

[clever path]

yeah but i want to play ravager

[edgy widget]

ok well that's a different compaint entirely lol

that has nothing to do with Annihilator as a capstone

that's often the problem with WoW - players like tier because it changes up their gameplay, and devs like to do things to enable that, but invariably one of the change ups will result in playing a talent someone doesn't like or not playing a talent they do like and suddenly it's the worst thing ever ™️

and it's absolutely inevitable with the DF style talent trees

[covert blaze]

is there a way to remove spiteful from details?

[clever path]

i just wish we could play anni and ravager

have the rage economy of ravager am builds