fury

[sullen dove]

so true

they're only doing more dps than me cuz leggo crutch

[slim coral]

it still does like 4 mill free dmg

I'm must saying for a lego it sucks

[dapper goblet]

cope

dumb

xan brain

[sullen dove]

[left perch]

no it’s not that they do more damage it’s that this shit class is tuned around having it

brown stink

[slim coral]

I lost by 1 mill

would of won

[sullen dove]

tuned around the best items in the game and still garbage

[dapper goblet]

noob

[left perch]

“just loot orange”

[dapper goblet]

bobas owns u

[left perch]

(I am emotionally stable about it)

[slim coral]

cope

[sullen dove]

who da hell is siddysmash

he also piping

[slim coral]

I beat him yall are coping

[sullen dove]

danza kuduro

[slim coral]

Cope I own

[sullen dove]

blue

[slim coral]

xeos mad casue I'm better

[sullen dove]

wot boss

[slim coral]

lego op

[sullen dove]

dont need leggo to not get blue

surely this was council

[dapper goblet]

would you rather have 202k dollars or 199k dollars

[sullen dove]

what if a tax bracket breaking point its at 200k

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[sullen dove]

youd still pick the 202k anyway but kek

[next jacinth]

For mythic+ are you suppose to be using titanic rage or dancing blades?

[summer quail]

dancing blades

[wild mica]

dancing blades is better technically, but titanic rage is a lot more comfy and depending on how high you're pushing you just pick whichever one you like most

its not a massive difference

[next jacinth]

gotcha

[sullen dove]

yea tr is slight boost to aoe dmg while dancing is a bit more significant st increase which usually more helpful for bosses

but its never like a big deal in like more chill key lvls around 20 and such

[next jacinth]

sounds about right

[sour badger]

It is. It’s overwhelmingly big. With a lot of things to learn… but it also means a lot of things to explore

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

didnt know zuly was in temerity..

[edgy widget]

in terms of raw damage, tr is technically better for most dungeons

Dungeon Slice favors DB because a good portion of it is the ST boss, but an actual dungeon typically has a lot more AoE than ST

[wild mica]

I thought that too but I've been told the opposite so many times I just kinda stopped questioning it tbh lol

[summer quail]

take your time, i was a casual andy doing lfr for years

[edgy widget]

herd mentality is a hell of a drug

[left perch]

can you blame them tho

[sullen dove]

yea i mean tr of course will always be more damage on the overall

[eternal sundial]

Killing prio target is good for timer be it boss ur but thing in pack

[sullen dove]

its just often thats not as important as focusing a prio target or a boss down faster

and its slightly better for rage gen

db that is

[sour badger]

Is 439 +- good for normal raid application?

[sullen dove]

ehh i mean some ppl might take you just cuz, but not super likely imo

you can try some low mythic plus maybe though? for gear

some ppl might just take random low ilvl ppl for that for bonus flightsonte

[summer quail]

idk if people will invite you at that ilvl. but you can definetely clear it, would recommend making your own group but i know you're new so it can be dautning

daunting*

[sour badger]

I’ve tried already one m2 and one m4

[sullen dove]

noice

[sour badger]

Fall was pain in the ass and it was m2

[summer quail]

lets go dude

[sour badger]

And throne of the tides we cleared m4 in 4 players

Without a healer

[edgy widget]

But really it's a combination of things, for example

• a high level M+ pusher focusing on ST damage for their group decides to run DB, others follow suite, whether or not the circumstances really apply
• someone else will decide focusing prio targets or bosses is more important than pushing higher AoE, which is not at all a bad idea but it is not a measurement of raw damage, it's trading damage potential for what's believed to be a more important (not unlike losing damage in order to take Shockwave)

But numbers don't lie, and TR is objectively better when there's a majority of AoE, just like DB will always be better when there's a majority of ST

[sour badger]

Mythics are hard

But damn they are fun

Oh and btw

[olive wraith]

Grats?

[sour badger]

I got one piece from the set

😎

[sullen dove]

[left perch]

str8 gaming my guy

[sullen dove]

yea even just chain spamming 2's will get you some good gear

and eventually when more comfy do slightly higher

[edgy widget]

also just a note, the rage generation difference is almost completely negligible

[left perch]

not a troll question but kind of: does rage gen even matter in this economy

[sour badger]

Gonna try to do that

[left perch]

like are we even remotely rage hungry if we hold W at boss

[sullen dove]

eh i mean on st you can feel slightly rageless, its def not rly a problem at all in m+

ww giving like 8 rage per cast

[sour badger]

Another question. Completing these dungeons I started getting points. What is the point of them

And if I do the same dungeon do they rise?

[sullen dove]

its just a score so people can kinda gauge how many dungeons youve done

and what level of dungeon youve done

the score rises when you do a higher level key

[edgy widget]

the thing is that DB only increases auto attack rage generation, which is the majorty source of rage overflow

(rage over cap)

so while yes, DB does cause you to generate slightly more, it also causes you to waste more

[sour badger]

Ah so if I do same level on the same dungeon nothing happens

[edgy widget]

remember that increased rage generation only matters in the context of getting you more casts of Rampage, which is... actually pretty hard to do at this point for Fury

[sour badger]

Need always to go higher right?

Ah another things

When I was doing lfr

[slim coral]

idk next tier is gonna be wild with secondary stats

[sour badger]

I’ve got crests

And it’s currency

What I use it for?

[sullen dove]

yea crests are for upgrading gear

[sour badger]

Oooo

[sullen dove]

u might see your gear has some level out of 8

you use em to up that level

[sour badger]

So that’s why I see like 1/8

4/8

Gear

Right?

[edgy widget]

just throwing some examples out here

[sullen dove]

yea, can go where the diamond is on map in valdrakken

[next mica]

erm

[edgy widget]

you can guess which is TR and which is DB

keep in mind there's some rotational difference as well, but the point is that you're not practically getting any more casts of Rampage, so the extra rage is largely pointless (see: RPS Out in the first image)

[sullen dove]

in that little cave building is a guy saying "gear upgrades" or something

[next mica]

charge cancels legendary even u press it to fast? Oo

[sour badger]

Wait a sec

Going there

Two swords crossed?

[sullen dove]

thnk so

[sour badger]

Oh

So I need flightstones

[sullen dove]

yea

[eternal sundial]

Ye

[polar trail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mtve2fEdvwN4E5f4mZScRh

This is my current sim in ST build. I want to check if I should recraft cloak, rings, offhand or regem for a slight gain. Not sure how that works with raidbots.
I usually use gear compare or droptimizer to check upgrades or sim full st.
Kinda clueless what to do and click in topgear to recraft all those items.
Any tips to checking that?

[sullen dove]

click the plus on the crafted item

can pick stats down there

and regem u just pick the gems u think you'll use

[polar trail]

So i can basicly do that on all crafted items with all posibilities?

[sullen dove]

while having replace gems checked

yeah but if u dont have premium prolly wont let u do every combo

unless u only recraft each piece like once

just as many as you can to whatever stats you think you'd rather have

[polar trail]

Yea that makes sense. Probably thousands of possible combinations

[violet trail]

More like 10s of millions

[sullen dove]

eh i mean this is 4 pieces of crafted gear with 3 different stat combos on each

its not crazy, when it gets crazy is you do that on top of selecting a ton of gems

typically you'd never wanna sim more than like 2 types of gems at a time unless youre only simming gems

in which case can do a few more

[eternal sundial]

Non lariat user

[sullen dove]

but having like 6 different gems checked when you are also changing crafted item stats and trinkets and shit is big stupid

lariat cring

[eternal sundial]

Default simming 6 gems

[sullen dove]

[eternal sundial]

Sims well for arms bro

[sullen dove]

i almost never go more than 2

u know what else sims well for arms

leggo

shameless padder @slim coral

[slim coral]

arms op

stonsk going up

[sullen dove]

more roots dam than boss dam

[slim coral]

it's actually tied lol

who are you watching

[sullen dove]

asuna is the only person streaming no

and idk it was just said on voice

[slim coral]

no

kalamazi

[fleet cargo]

bud u must be using the most expensive premium package

[sullen dove]

yea its one of them idk

base combinations amount is 60

one of the raiders in my guild has it lul

[fleet cargo]

i use most cheap premium cant remember now but limits me either to 2 or 3m iterations haha

[covert blaze]

Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

[storm rune]

thems is S2 stats

[sullen dove]

need to be 420 verse sorry

dont even speak to me until u hit that

[sour badger]

hello guys its me back again

was very fortunate to get my second piece of a tier set

so now im at 2/4

should i switch to talents you were mentioning to me before?

the current ones

and not the old you suggested be

[storm rune]

I think you stick with S2 until 4 piece

Should be able to catalyze the rest at this point no?

[sour badger]

what is this?

[storm rune]

turns normal gear into tier pieces, should be a quest in val that leads you to it

450 and below turns into S2, anything above will be S3

[storm rune]

yes but at 8/8 it would be 463

I mean where it caps at

[sour badger]

ooh i see

[storm rune]

I should say Veteran and above will be s3

[sour badger]

so i will not benefit from 2 pieces?

i mean as i read it yes im

but im not getting cd reduction

[storm rune]

oh actually you're right, you'll need to respec because you dont have of in S2 spec

[sour badger]

found the catalystr quest

[storm rune]

my bad

[sour badger]

yeah i started recently playing dont have any season gear

[sullen dove]

pretty sure you cant catalyze stuff into s2 set i dont think ilvl mattered

any item from the season presumably only went to s3 tier

[covert blaze]

@sour badger you can get 1 adventurer track piece from dreamsurge and 1 adventurer piece from time rift, upgrade them to 450 and turn them to t30 tier for free

[sour badger]

werent we using spear?

[eternal sundial]

Only for some bosses

[sour badger]

so this is our mythic build?

from icy veins

[covert blaze]

Yes

[slim coral]

someone @'d me somewhere

where is the mentions for all servers

[covert blaze]

@slim coral

[slim coral]

isn't there a mentions tab

[sour badger]

understood

[covert blaze]

That's a thing?

[slim coral]

yeah I found it

it's top right

[sour badger]

then im ready to conquest the mythic😎

[hearty surge]

@clever belfry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ooiAJ4POdk

When we do keys

this is what is listened to on repeat

[shy knot]

I love how nobody but war/dk/ret dont even do HC fyrak now

No invites

[covert blaze]

People still want trinkets wym

[sour badger]

so i can get tier set piece?

[eternal sundial]

Rightclick it

[sour badger]

damn you right

now i have 3 pieces

its addicting

lfr valentine

[barren dagger]

Is rageheart any good for us in say m+?

[shy knot]

Barely

Its like 2 normal ppl and rest wars

482 curved and spent 1hr in lfg yday fucking lego

[slim pollen]

21 out of 25 people in the HC fyrakk group I joined was plate users, 1 guy already had lego (was there for trinket) and not a single lego dropped for anyone 😂

[unreal onyx]

In very high keys, yes

[quaint stag]

It’s so annoying how the legendary drop works. Literally went back to wotlk classic for icc, found a guild and got shadowlourne last night as 3rd person in guild before I get leggo on retail

[barren dagger]

And i had 6 drop on my kill yesterday

[shy knot]

Ive been thinking of SoD with how bad this is

[void valley]

im so tired

[flat sapphire]

I dont understand

What you mad about

[void valley]

Myself for inviting horrible players

For a +14

[sullen dove]

[flat sapphire]

Oh fair

I mean

I've had shit pugs

This entire week

[void valley]

Same but like, i can kinda get it in a 20 or something

But this week being "easy loot mythic+!!!" and gearing an alt

[flat sapphire]

Just take yesterday I tried doing a 23 rise cause I hate rise we died first pull well yhe group died

[void valley]

Is rotting me

[flat sapphire]

Then we wipe first pull on a 24 ad

And then I alt f4

So these pugs been insane lately

[void valley]

Like that dk wouldnt pull big, but the moment the normal adds were dead hed run off and pull the next one while dealing with spitefuls/ dead people

And then 5/6 dhs are just trash

[flat sapphire]

Oh yea we manages to brick a +5 fall too

[void valley]

I bricked a +2 fall

Healer wouldnt touch chromie then when we explained it to them they closed the game and we 4 manned iridikron

[flat sapphire]

My group didn't understand how to soak

Ans to heal chrome

Even after I explained 5 times

Ans they said they understood

[void valley]

Oh wait we didnt brick it nvm

Still it wouldve been like, 13 and instead it was 26

[rose bay]

met some people i had played with in bfa, that was cool!

[eternal sundial]

@plush flower fuck the mages

[chrome plover]

jfc why did he post this screenshot where he looks like the dickhead

[eternal sundial]

Idk bro

Mages are special in the head

[sterile remnant]

quick question.

i find it strange but why lariat still sims lower even with all items socketed

i expected us to jump on lariat at some point

why shadowflame is showing bigger numbers

[barren dagger]

Shadowflame op on ST

if you run a 5m sim with 5 targets then lariat might pull ahead?

[eternal sundial]

Lariat is aoe/arms

[drifting cloud]

Hello, so i was doign some sims and i see this https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6b8G8Qit6icusojyJzyxRn i myself thought that might of the ocean would run higher according to bloodmallet by a mile on 5x bosses 1.5min and a better trinket in gerenal since it lines better with the cd toolkit ?

[barren dagger]

It’s a 1m30 sim so it doesn’t account for the fact your might is available every 90s and your mirror is available every 3m

[drifting cloud]

so there for might is probably better since ill have strength every 1.5min so if i would have put on a 3min fight it would be more beneficial ?

[barren dagger]

Maybe sim for 3m and see what it gives you

I think might pulls ahead

[drifting cloud]

it did by 2k

[modern shoal]

1 person looks like a tool here and it ain't the mage

[hardy cargo]

[eternal sundial]

I enjoy people being mad at eachother

[modern shoal]

Imagine telling people what spec they should be playing though

In the video game they pay for

That's some degen shit

[eternal sundial]

The warrior just left the key before they started

Mage was the one yapping

[modern shoal]

The warrior left the key because the mage was frost?

[jolly mist]

????

[modern shoal]

Better than mid key but still pretty funny in a sad way for the war

[eternal sundial]

25 key iirc

[round cargo]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eYsfcngabjvXTxA9K1PZrU what can i change to improve single target damage?

[eternal sundial]

Db/better trinkets

Lego

[round cargo]

db?

[clever path]

ewwww so toxic

i hope someone gets that suspension

also why is warrior having discussion with himself?

[round cargo]

Is there a better trinket besides the ones from Smolderon and Fyrak?

[eternal sundial]

Dancing blades and bloodcraze talent are a tiny aoe loss big st gain

[eternal sundial]

Might of the ocean is good for keys

[round cargo]

but

i have this talents

[eternal sundial]

[round cargo]

Is it possible to see where I'm making mistakes?

because with these talents I should be doing 190, and I'm doing at 160 about

[eternal sundial]

With a log yes

[fading sky]

still havent found a setup where lariat beats patch in st in arms

i still use it though 😄

[round cargo]

how can i make logs?

[fading sky]

www.warcraftlogs.com

i think it is

and then u just use the guide there to set it up

[clever path]

turn on advanced combat logging in game

/combatlog in game

u can use wclogs live logger or you can upload logs after u are done

[clever belfry]

you should definetly use autologging feature within rio addon, bw or mrt instead of typing /combatlog lol

[oblique trail]

Make mme

[clever path]

he wants to log attacking a dummy for 5 minutes

why would u use autologging

[covert blaze]

Me when I want 1 TB of log files

[clever belfry]

just get a better pc

farmed

[covert blaze]

Just get a house

[hard widget]

Anyone else getting random dc'd and leaving party?

[autumn mica]

@hard widget not that but had a unusual lagg spike yday.

Oddd

[low folio]

there is a bug where dcing can remove you from the partt

[prisma sleet]

did 252k overall on a 18 brh. feels so low. tank did the standard route, anyone have any tips

[final birch]

What's a standard route, what's your ilv, talents, group comp

see what I'm getting at?

[barren dagger]

How good is your tank

Is like 90%

[prisma sleet]

485 using db, blood craze, 25% crit, 26% haste, 61% mastery, 25% vers, ran with outlaw and lock. i believe its standard route as every brh key is the same.

[barren dagger]

Your overall is only comparable to the other people in your group

There are so many factors

[wild mural]

we did it boys, we made smf viable

[eternal sundial]

No

Stop

[chrome plover]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-jugger-nuggets-gif-19032506

[clever path]

playing SoD because warrior slaps there ?

[wild mural]

nope cause im bored as shit

[clever path]

touch something

since i know you are planted to bed mostly still

touch a book or a movie

wow is dead

[wild mural]

no

dont tell me how to waste my time

[eternal sundial]

Raid today yippie

[wild mural]

we're not raiding sunday

[eternal sundial]

W

[wild mural]

tindral not deadge

L

[eternal sundial]

@wild mural do we hit 100 today

[wild mural]

100?

[eternal sundial]

We did 48 on tues

Pullz

[wild mural]

oh

yes

[upbeat sentinel]

Have they previewed either of the fury hero trees

[summer quail]

Yes quite a while ago

Mountain thane. Should be in pins

[lofty delta]

spoiler alert, it's mid

[upbeat sentinel]

“Raging Blow has a 10% chance to trigger a Lightning Strike, which then has a 10% chance to trigger [Avatar of the Storm], or a 1% chance per cast”

End me

[lofty delta]

ye, rng on rng. super fun /s

[upbeat sentinel]

Let’s hope slayer is just better!!!!!

[lofty delta]

the thunderclap stuff could be cool; but like, capped aoe. hate that

[upbeat sentinel]

It won’t be 😦

[lofty delta]

Utility and uncapped aoe is all i wish for in the next xpac

[upbeat sentinel]

Just replaces WW

So doesn’t rly change anything we do

[lofty delta]

there's some rng thunderstrike stuff, but yeah otherwise just a replacer so meh

[round cargo]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1xN3D6hqHmRrdPgc#fight=last

what am i doing wrong?

[lofty delta]

firstly #449510248579858432, secondly; that's 38 seconds of a target dummy. kinda hard to point anything out.

[round cargo]

ok

[upbeat sentinel]

Send an igira log instead

THE MOST HOLY OF FIGHTS

[eternal sundial]

I mean if u look u can see shit

Like opener

[lofty delta]

Your opener is incorrect on a quick glance

Ye, but that's kinda it

a 3 minute log is better for understanding rotational mistakes

[eternal sundial]

Opener wrong nowadays is a big deal

[wild mural]

real

[lofty delta]

Volcaross would be better for single target tho, igira has you doing wonky things with OF and TR to hit spears.

[static spire]

Is it safe to say you use titanic rage for Fort weeks and dancing blades for tyran weeks?

[lofty delta]

.... i don't even chage my build xD

[round cargo]

so what should i change?

[lofty delta]

Reck on pull -> Charge, then rampage, then Spear then OF. do normal rotation of Bloodbath into ramp and back to BB until 4 seconds have passed, then avatar.

[eternal sundial]

I cant look at the log proper on phone unfortunately

[lofty delta]

with most of your time in an m+ still being trash even on tyran weeks, should probably stick to blades. That might be different when pushing super high keys tho

[static spire]

Generally speaking in the 25-26 range

Isn't blades more of a single target talent?

[lofty delta]

No? it's the ww one right?

did i mix them up

[static spire]

yep

[eternal sundial]

Dancing blades is the st one

Titanic rage is the ww one

[lofty delta]

ah shit

[eternal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-joever-frog-it's-frover-it's-over-meme-gif-297867383892280262

[lofty delta]

I can't say for those level, i got lazy this tier with the combined fact of shitty utility and no legendary and just pushed to 23's.

[static spire]

because I'm looking at logs and it's like a 50/50 split for fort weeks

and 90/10 on tyran

[lofty delta]

depends on your group layout i suppose

if you got some aoe blasters you can focus on single target, or vice versa.

[static spire]

Sims seem to be extremely similar on those two so was just wondering what provides the best value

[sage hamlet]

I always go dancing blades. Titanic rage sims a bit higher iirc but DB has better prio dmg and ST

[warm crag]

log out

[eternal sundial]

@warm crag im being trolled (60% sure he's not serious)

[clever belfry]

noob

never go up

get parse

[eternal sundial]

If im feather 1 im no aoe arms

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1165062419505233940.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[clever belfry]

🦾 🦾

[warm crag]

just dont go up lol

[eternal sundial]

Dont log on angle

[agile bone]

Hey, guys does the legendary dot dmg vary much overall? I just had a AD run with another Warrior and His Legendary did by far more dmg. Checked the stats and he pretty much has less stats on every stat so it cant be faster more crit or vers or so. Edit: His average Dot Hit was 15k mine only 9k

[eternal sundial]

Ive had it do 26k dps in atal

[slim pollen]

Crit, haste and vers all affect it from my understanding.
Where did you check stats?

[agile bone]

WoW armory, dont know where i can check too. But even than he had quite some gs less than me so I had more on every stats if armory is correct and not even close

[eternal sundial]

who cares abt stats its just using item on cd

[slim pollen]

Armory is wildly inaccurate i think

[eternal sundial]

ye haste on it is fucked

[agile bone]

But using legy is still a dps loss in aoe no?

[eternal sundial]

no

[agile bone]

Ahhh ok, I used it when we had less targets left so that might explain.

Though it says (Dot) is the active with this dmg?

[eternal sundial]

details combines it

[agile bone]

ok, so basically just use on cd in every situation? not in burst ofc

[eternal sundial]

yea basically

[agile bone]

ok ty guys. Imagine having legy and playing it wrong. oof

[lofty delta]

Still don't have it; feels bad

everyone in my guild has it but me

[eternal nebula]

this questline is the worst one i've ever seen in wow

[silent burrow]

It is not enjoyable

[clever path]

its not that bad if u have people willing to sit in superblooms with u

superbloom one is by far the worst

rare one is ez

those time gated ones are ez as well

just sit in proving grounds and reset

[silent burrow]

Difficulty doesn't impact the level of suck

[mossy fox]

wish i could complain about the questline

[eternal nebula]

yeah, i did the proving grounds one. but that's not the intended way to do it, they actually wanted to spend 100 minutes waiting for a button to come back on cd

aintnoway

[eternal sundial]

i did it natty

[silent burrow]

same

[eternal sundial]

12 blooms 100 waits

[clever path]

worst part is the emerald frenzy at xx:50

got to speedrun rares

until superbloom

[drifting stirrup]

Would be nice to get a legendary in actual progress, not when it's completely irrelevant because the tier is over 😄 Shouldn't complain, looted mine on our Fyrakk mythic kill. Feels a bit wasted now tho

[mossy fox]

for sure

degen m+ pushers like me who have killed m fyrakk still kinda need it though

[clever path]

i wish they made it a guaranteed drop on mythic kill

get shadowmourne

its a legendary

[mossy fox]

already have that

[drifting stirrup]

Totally get it. I finalized my quest and got the axe yesterday. And now we're on a 2 week raidbreak.. so can't even try it out 😄

[silent burrow]

My mog has both axes 🤠

[drifting stirrup]

Kinda cool idea actually, might steal that one

[silent burrow]

It’s a flex

[warm crag]

fyralath on augvokers is a flex

[clever path]

survival hunters mogging it too

[chrome plover]

yeah my hunter would be moggign that insta if i have it

i used mythic jaithys mog on hunter for ages

[clever path]

should use gavel instead

[chrome plover]

I think gavel was kinda ugly ngl

• i mained survival in sepulcher so didnt get gavel til fated

mythic gavel that is

[warm crag]

it was animated no

[jolly mist]

man s3 survival was diff

[warm crag]

was kinda neat but it also was a mace and anything that isnt a sword is yucky

[mossy fox]

mace sounds

[warm crag]

they actually never gave us remornia did they

criminal

stab someone with this shit

[violet trail]

We got it as a pet!

[desert cloud]

this shoulda been some kind of legndary

that randomly said something

[warm crag]

i mean danny's not dead

[mossy fox]

give us remornia, and make sure it speaks all the time

[warm crag]

right

it was

criminal

that fyrakk only laughs at you once

[mossy fox]

everyone nearby should hear it also

[warm crag]

fyralath should play the laugh track when you die

[chrome plover]

I'll carve them into itty-bitty pieces

[clever path]

idk i like fyralath

[chrome plover]

remornia would be sick ngl

[clever path]

the mog

[jolly mist]

thing is they prolly were too lazy and its not even a difficult task they literally created xalatath

[warm crag]

fyralath is fine but it sits weirdly on your back and fury holds it weirdly

[vapid sable]

i have a question on some incite i need. this isn't for me so its about my fury wariror on the team bayther https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HdKy1Xgxc7v8CWzk is their anything he can do better to put out more dps? or anything he is doing wrong?

[jolly mist]

even when u have it mogged to ur weapon it speaks to you

[mossy fox]

yea it's held pretty close to the actual blade isnt it

[clever path]

isnt that true for most axes

[mossy fox]

just like the "polearm" from raid

[chrome plover]

you should post it in #449510248579858432 it will very quickly get lost in here before anyone has the chance to look at it!

[warm crag]

the polearm from raid is actually horrible holy

[vapid sable]

i prefer someone who is parsing in the 90s to help with this

[clever path]

smolderon sword is a banger tho

[warm crag]

it made glaive animations on blood elves look bad

[vapid sable]

tyvm

[warm crag]

this is a genuine challenge to make look bad

wait this guys opener is a cooker opener

slow yourself by 60% and then walk to the boss

[clever path]

[chrome plover]

?

modcheck

[warm crag]

the unenraged OF is also pretty powerful

[wild mica]

slow yourself, realize you walked in charge range and can't use it, commit

[warm crag]

wait this guy actually just doesnt charge

[round cargo]

can someone look at my logs?

[chrome plover]

#449510248579858432

[warm crag]

bruh

[chrome plover]

first of all he needs to bind charge

[warm crag]

he does charge

[chrome plover]

phew

[warm crag]

18 times over 26 pulls

[chrome plover]

just never on pull

[warm crag]

hahahahahah???

[jolly mist]

what is bro cooking

[warm crag]

ive never seen a warrior that underuses charge

[wild mica]

hes going for the intimidation tactic on the boss

[jolly mist]

maybe they enjoy walking?

[wild mica]

"why is this warrior just walking up to me oh shit"

[jolly mist]

MENACINGLY

[warm crag]

hes playing his cd timers correctly for the fight

maybe its worth to send ava on cd instead of holding for the adds

[jolly mist]

but why is bro popping of before enrage? 💀

[wild mica]

what fight?

[vapid sable]

do you have a marco for it or something

larry mythic

[mossy fox]

did he just walk up slowly and downsmash?

[jolly mist]

no just use charge

[vapid sable]

we are at larry on 12% best pull

[mossy fox]

(pls someone get the reference)

[jolly mist]

like press the button

[ornate gust]

What is Larry?

[warm crag]

larodar

[wild mica]

i get it

[jolly mist]

W reference ( something about ssb but i dont know the reference)

[warm crag]

swifty one live cast sequence

[vapid sable]

larry is larodar

[ornate gust]

So Larry is the nickname? Cute

[vapid sable]

ya lol

[warm crag]

@vapid sable his opener is wonky, he should ideally reck charge into rampaging to get enraged first and then odyns fury

[ornate gust]

Lol

[vapid sable]

thats what we call it

[warm crag]

i'll post a pic of his opener and mine

this is what he does, the OF is unenraged

[chrome plover]

do u not hold for 6-7 seconds on larodar for adds?

or was i a padder

[warm crag]

gamer opener (notice the ramp so the of is enraged)

[wild mica]

did that guy have Titanic rage instead of dancing blades?

[warm crag]

no

[warm crag]

dunno for prog but for reclear you hold ava for the 0:10 mark

and then for like 1:50

[chrome plover]

I havent done the boss since prog (guild dead lol) and I think I held for first adds on pull and then had cds for all the adds

[clever path]

shoukd prob do that on prog too

adds usually live on prog

[warm crag]

i mean yeah with reclear killtimers you won't use a cast from this and shift your last avatar set into execute

[clever path]

iirc

[chrome plover]

[warm crag]

with prog killtimers there is a good chance you lose an avatar cast from this

[vapid sable]

i have no ideal i main disc priest

[violet trail]

I hold avatar for it. Lines up nicely

[hardy shuttle]

I do it like I do igira, recklessness charge rampage odyns. Then hold roar and avatar for the first span 10 seconds in. But is probably pad

[vapid sable]

im jsut here trying to get answers to help him improve

i dont want to bench ppl is why

n i knw he can do better

[jolly mist]

ok so theres this site called

lorrgs.io

he can check timers there

[warm crag]

i honestly don't see much wrong with his play though

he presses his defensives, he clearly researched cd timers for the fight

he doesn't open correctly but thats an easy fix

[jolly mist]

its also a thing of how fast you guys kill the boss

[warm crag]

on your best pull his damage was fine

[hardy shuttle]

Very minimal wasted BBs too

[jolly mist]

prog dps is really not the big issue here

[hardy shuttle]

Like only 6 or so casts of rampage more than BB

[jolly mist]

more of mechanical issue id say

[violet trail]

9 out of 10 times is

[vapid sable]

ive been assigning MRT to him and my other warrior and dh

for rally n cry n few other things

[warm crag]

and he seems to follow it

[jolly mist]

what else?

[warm crag]

he doesnt press SR but neither do i on that fight tbh

[jolly mist]

confused warrior has other utilities??

[vapid sable]

i m the person on my team who makes the healer cds mrt and the other ppls efensives we rely on

[warm crag]

this guy even presses impending victory

[jolly mist]

W

[violet trail]

SR on charge is pretty nice.

That is magic damage right or have I been pressing it for nothing?

[warm crag]

probably yeah but you don't really die on that fight unless you take extended lava baths

on prog i mightve pressed it

[violet trail]

But I like having toasty toes

[chrome plover]

it is but it just doesnt do very much damage

[violet trail]

It does when he got 3 stacks because the dps "Forgot" to soak balls

I'm fiending after those. I'll run out into lava for htem

[warm crag]

me when the dps "forgot" to grab the crit buff

definitely relatable

[hardy shuttle]

That's when you swap to healing parses

[hearty surge]

Have you checked whether he plays dancing blades or the other

[warm crag]

ye its db

[hearty surge]

OK xd

[warm crag]

cooker

[hearty surge]

Man you can't say bad words anymore

Gets filtered by discord

[warm crag]

:(

[oblique trail]

Fuck shit!

[vapid sable]

ty guys for taking time to help me understand

[warm crag]

mods immediately remove this guys internet access

[mossy fox]

i can time benzai out

[oblique trail]

You would never

[mossy fox]

true

[hearty surge]

I think you should

This vile language is not acceptable

[oblique trail]

I don't think you should

[hearty surge]

Fuck shit

[warm crag]

sinners must be punished

[clever belfry]

banish him

immediately

[hearty surge]

People who aren't named jürgendumm should be punished

[warm crag]

Fuck shit

[clever belfry]

but i am more of a Jürgenprügeln

[hearty surge]

Jürgenprügeln is acceptable too

[chrome plover]

your poe quotes do not go unnoticed

[clever path]

What about kurzenweegan’s knochenbrechen?

[hearty surge]

Poe is shit fuck

[oblique trail]

Fires of a thousand suns

Perish

[hearty surge]

When dark souls quotes

[chrome plover]

im scared of bossing on my gauntlet character

[oblique trail]

Give it here, your dark soul

My lady needs it

or something

[hearty surge]

Die

[warm crag]

im scared of logging in to progress past act 3

[chrome plover]

when im 95 im just gonna int to pinnacle bosses immediately

[clever belfry]

stop being a lil bitch

[hearty surge]

Die

[hearty surge]

Is the only poe quote I recognize

[chrome plover]

had a cheeky 17 hour campaign

[wild mica]

wtf is a knorrenwurzels

[warm crag]

Die is such a good poe quote man

[clever belfry]

Gnarlroot

[hearty surge]

You guys playing gauntlet?

[chrome plover]

die is a banger quote

[hearty surge]

I meeeean

[wild mica]

gauntlet n64 every weekend

[chrome plover]

im actually enjoying it a lot

[hearty surge]

Is it not?

[warm crag]

i mean hes direct with it

he says die and you die (if squishy)

[hearty surge]

Just dodge?

[wild mica]

he says die before doing a very avoidable attack

[warm crag]

spongolotos died to hillock spongolotostwo is currently chilling in sarn

[chrome plover]

but then you finally make a good character and tank it and it kinda loses meaning

[warm crag]

not brutus

i meant hillock

[hearty surge]

Man I die to the birds in mid flats

Every league

[chrome plover]

hillock is badass in gauntlet

[wild mica]

who needs to be tanky when you can insta kill every boss

[warm crag]

hillock is not fun on a marauder i can tell you that

[chrome plover]

my mauradar was auto attacking him for 10 minutes

(my 3 maurauders)

[wild mica]

go around him clockwise? he always swing from his left arm you can just side step it

[warm crag]

i did a vendor run on pf and duelist it was so easy

[chrome plover]

how tf do you spell marauder

[clever belfry]

i think this way

[chrome plover]

yeah i got baited by muling 2 duelists and it wasnt so bad

[warm crag]

man i know how to kill hillock its more the part where marauder genuinely runs out of mana before you can kill him

[hearty surge]

That was me when I went into uber searing exarch for the first time

[chrome plover]

then the first marauder

[chrome plover]

i think so too

[hearty surge]

Took me forever to get to first intermission

Then I died to balls

[warm crag]

the fires of a thousand suns

[hearty surge]

I don't think my char was ready yet

[chrome plover]

after playing many builds that cant tank balls

[hearty surge]

For uber bosses

[chrome plover]

having a build that can run through balls endlessly

is so empowering

[warm crag]

i made a dogshit penis brand character this league and my dps was not good so i learned how to kill uber bosses pog frog

actually stupid how different fights get the more dps you have tho

[hearty surge]

But have you killed calamitas in master death mode

[warm crag]

no..

maybe i go..

[clever belfry]

p word holy fuck

[hearty surge]

As true melee character

[clever belfry]

you are so reported

[chrome plover]

I had 600m dps 200 life penis brand character that killed exarch before he auto attacked

ubers are easy

[hearty surge]

I never played poe that long

To build characters for bosses

Etc.

[warm crag]

mfing this league was kinda fun

[hearty surge]

I only play 1 char then I get bored

Idk

[warm crag]

got like 4 or 5 t0s gave me a reason to build a mageblood character

[chrome plover]

that's fair I like taking characters to the extreme and then selling them and doing the same on another one

yeah this league was basically creative mode idk

150d an hour mf maps

[hearty surge]

Idk I just don't get into the like real endgame

[chrome plover]

definitely fun but definitely dont want every league to be like this

[hearty surge]

And I don't think its worth investing time into learning the game

But i understand why people do it

[chrome plover]

gauntlet is a massive change of pace and it's fun as fuck for me

[chrome plover]

yeah i understand why people dont do it

idk how many thousands of hours i have

and i still feel like a mega noob

[warm crag]

noober

[hearty surge]

Yes it's a lot of hours

[wild mica]

i wish i wasn't so burned out on poe. im in the last epoch waiting gang right now

[hearty surge]

We had a few people in guild who went to first 100 in softcore

Ngl it's quite a lot of money every league if you know what you're doing

Like actually

Just a few thousand euros extra every league start

Just by playing normally

[chrome plover]

im looking forward to trying last epoch when it comes out, wanted to play with my gf but the yordle stardew ripoff comes out the same day and i think she wants to play that

[hearty surge]

And selling excess currency

[chrome plover]

yeah being good at early league is really profitable for sure

i dont rmt but i have a friend who does that

[hearty surge]

Like if you enjoy the game and don't use the currency

Might as well right

It shouldn't be the main reason to play though

[chrome plover]

ofc

[hearty surge]

Even though it is for a lot of people

Especially in Western asia

[wild mica]

Chris Wilson trying to learn warrior stumbling upon this discussion be like

[chrome plover]

russians too, I have friends that pay someone to do the campaign for them on league start and they are always russian

[hearty surge]

I think optimising league start is actually one of the most fun things

[chrome plover]

same

best part of the league for sure

first weekend

for me at least

[wild mica]

early economy is just absolutely wild

[hearty surge]

I always deny help from people etc. Even if I start late

Even if I play trade league

I just think the start is fun

[chrome plover]

I have a few friends and we help each other with maps

but usually it's me giving away my excess maps rather than getting given stuff

[hearty surge]

I mean maps aren't really a problem nowadays no?

Because of the trader

Or did they change that again

[chrome plover]

nah it's not bad at all

you sustain maps so easily

but sometimes theres a few random white/yellow maps that u never got

[hearty surge]

Yes but you can trade for them

Usually

[chrome plover]

yeah or horizon orb

[hearty surge]

I remember never having trouble with that

Last league I played properly was ultimatum

Though

[chrome plover]

it's more just cos we're in call and it's even easier to say "oh do you have a t4 channel btw"

[hearty surge]

I played some later leagues just more casualy

Did that weapon skill tree system go core btw

[wild mica]

no

[hearty surge]

Ah good

[chrome plover]

there have been some messy leagues since ultimatum

I always seem to end up liking them but some of them were truly despair at the start

[hearty surge]

Hold on was harvest before or after ultimatum

[chrome plover]

before

[wild mica]

tota was kinda fun, this league is absolutely terrible

[hearty surge]

Yes I remember I got my first headhunter in some league where I just harvest gambled doctors

Wasn't sure if it was ultimatum

[chrome plover]

it likely was

when did they itemise harvest

was annoying when you had to find someone to gamble for you

[hearty surge]

After I think

I remember fishing for harvest just checking for the gamble thingy

[chrome plover]

oh yeah jesus that was like 4 leagues after ultimatum

so crazy now to think about harvest being like that

[drifting copper]

Oh when you need to do the healer mechanic just Que for a follower dungeon and do it in there. They will keep you topped off.

[hearty surge]

I just asked random guy in valdrakken

Xd

[drifting copper]

I ditched some gear so my total health was 500k

[drifting copper]

I sat in VALDRAKKEN for an hour offering 10k gold to anyone that wanted to help.

No go

[wild mica]

for legendary? just go to training grounds, you cant die

[drifting copper]

Ahh. Good to know.

[wild mica]

plus you can insta reset the cds on the ball catching minigame

just start a round then forfeit it

[drifting copper]

I will not be doing the quest again.

Feel like all that should have been worth more than a 7k dungeon slice increase 😞

[hearty surge]

Using dungeon slice

Xd

[sullen basin]

riot are ripping off stardew?

[drifting copper]

I sim every slice bro

[sullen basin]

did you sim none pizza left beef

[drifting copper]

Why wouldn’t I

[wild mica]

Riot's entire catalogue is ripping off others

[sullen basin]

what are they blizzard 2

[drifting copper]

Still says c tier even on pizza slice.

[ember apex]

ay what do i answer to this RANGED PROPAGANDA on my guild discord

what up glasse

[wild mica]

they take games, make them worse and add pretty colors and people slurp it up

[wild mica]

my boy

[ember apex]

i agree w/ u on riot

im also just generally extremely adverse to F2P games

[sullen basin]

boss moves more than 2 inches
melee uptime 80%, range uptime 100%

[hearty surge]

You have a PhD in DPS you should be able to come up with a response

[sullen basin]

if ranged are complaining about uptime its a skill issue

[ember apex]

bro they're trolling me in there w/ their mental gymnastics

[wild mica]

having played both ranged and dps for 20 years, ranged is chill as hell and melee is pure chaos

[sullen basin]

tell them to reroll hunter shaman or aug to cast while moving

[ember apex]

thats our rSham posting that

[wild mica]

the only exception is like nymue, where that shit seems like hell for ranged

[sullen basin]

what the fuck lol

[ember apex]

b/c i posted the halondrus melee vs ranged video

[sullen basin]

rsham is chill

[ember apex]

u know what i started doing for nymue

u guys feel free to steal this

[sullen basin]

you mean the one where the druids at back are just outside of the range of everything and the melee have to constantly move

[ember apex]

i started dropping the bomb circle

BEHIND the boss

in her little box

its troll as fuck but its 100% uptime

[sullen basin]

dont you take damage standing there

ive never moved closer than the laser stuns

[ember apex]

yeah i press enraged regeneration

[wild mica]

nothing spell reflect and regen wont fix

[chrome plover]

well she flamed me for saying it was a ripoff

[ember apex]

yeah 100% this is heroic btw

[hearty surge]

The big brain play is to drop the bomb inside the boss

[ember apex]

not mythic

[sullen basin]

so basically if the healers arent ass you're fine?

[ember apex]

just on my weekly pugs

yeah lol

[chrome plover]

but it's a pixel art farming game based around yordles

[wild mica]

im doing it on mythic from now on

will report later

[ember apex]

ok

[sullen basin]

drop the bomb wherever the ranged dps are

[ember apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/933684566240149624.webp?size=48&name=Prayge&quality=lossless

[ember apex]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[hearty surge]

Be careful if you do that the ranges will start dropping bomb where add is

[sullen basin]

they will now know what it's like to have to do 0 damage during mechanics if you do that

[sullen basin]

range can move around that ranged placement, melee cant
gkick the ranged if they fight back

also they already fucking do

most add phases have one tiny slit you can squeeze through and otherwise entirely covered by dogshit placement

[hearty surge]

What monkeys are you raiding with

[merry jetty]

Any1 knows how the monk debuff works? does he just have to hit it once during the encounter, then if he dies it stays on, or?

[sullen basin]

ive done more pugs than guild runs for nymue at this point

including wipes anyway

[hearty surge]

Well same

[sullen basin]

hit once, suicide, ez

[ember apex]

Bova going scorched earth

[sullen basin]

net dps gain if the monk dies instantly

[ember apex]

no survivors

[sullen basin]

teach ranged how it feels to lose uptime with no consequences (the ranged players will want to reroll to a better spec)

[hearty surge]

If the ranged plays properly though he won't lose uptime

[wild mica]

every single ranged spec has more than enough tool to have 100% uptime on every fight if they don't wear their pants on their head

[sullen basin]

drop bomb next to rsham mid lavaburst

what ranged has the longest cast times anyway

that arent channels

hardcasting demonbolt?

marksmans aimed shot or whatever has a long time right? but its doable while moving?

wait how many melee don't have ranged options? warrior and monk?

pretty sure unholy can safely do dps during bomb if they just press festering strike before moving

[chrome plover]

aimed shot is not doable while moving

[chrome plover]

evoker

with their 4 stage skills

[sullen basin]

ok so if you got an MM hunter or aug/pres drop bomb next to them 🙂

[chrome plover]

:)

[sullen basin]

sent myself a box got speed might and speed archdruids we bing chilling

[wild mica]

man i have to take 5 weeks vacation this year since i dont want them to be paid out, but i can't do it when the expansion launches it has to be before july

[sullen basin]

before july why?

[earnest grail]

are you supposed to hard swap to spears on igira mythic or is cleaving enough?

[wild mica]

our year is july 1 to june 30, so they'd be paid out then

[unreal onyx]

holdup, where can I get those

[warm crag]

cleaving is enough

[wild mica]

the boa item? the m+ key panda near the portal

[sullen basin]

panda lady that knocks your key down

[unreal onyx]

ohh sick

[sullen basin]

these are good fury stats right?

[wild mica]

its 350 flightstones per box i think

[unreal onyx]

im bout to buy some to get stuff to catalyze for tmog

[sullen basin]

yes

[earnest grail]

anymore opinions on this? my guild is asking me to hard swap single target spears

[unreal onyx]

playing spear on igira is huge troll

igira is literally the best fight for fury/roar I think

[warm crag]

what do you mean hard swap single target spears that doesnt even make sense

theres 6+ that come out and you can cleave like 4 of them when you hit the boss it won't make much of a difference if you swap to a spear and ST it

[restive peak]

We have another below 1000 wr overly cooking raid leader alert

[warm crag]

you'd drop frenzy and if your group is competent the spears will die before your gcd is over to bb it if it goes below 35% hp

[round cargo]

What should I pay attention to if my dps drops drastically after the opener,

[restive peak]

If people are dying to igira spears your raid team should probably disband

[round cargo]

I'm always enraged etc.

[warm crag]

@round cargo fix your opener first of all

why are you ramping with RA stacks up

[clever path]

tell them to eat a bag

and get a taste of my divine storm

[unreal onyx]

I bought 3 m+ item boxes

[wild mica]

ew a paladin

[unreal onyx]

got wm boots, avoidance sandglass and gorehowl

[clever path]

warrior at heart

[round cargo]

What does this mean?

[chrome plover]

bloodbath castable but press rampage instead

[clever path]

playing spear as fury on igira is so troll

[warm crag]

you should probably consult at least the wowhead guide you're double ramping too often for it to be accidental

[meager void]

This is 100% your RL not understanding how fury warrior works. Unless he meant "in general" and it was not targeted to you specifically

[warm crag]

literally no one said they're doing this

[earnest grail]

it was targetted towards me specifically

[clever path]

didnt his rl say he should swap to spear

[warm crag]

can you ask him what he means by single targetting spears when theres ~8 of them that come out simultaneously

[meager void]

If you swap targets, you drop haste buff from using rampage on a different target. Which is a big hit on your overall performance.

[chrome plover]

yes swap his targetted enemy to a spear instead of the boss

[clever path]

oh

what

thats even worse

[chrome plover]

[clever path]

frenzy

8953263289 dps loss

play arms then

ez

[wild mica]

all this time i thought you guys were talking about swapping to spear vs roar

[clever path]

with warbreaker

[chrome plover]

you're huge damage to spear without swapping assuming they are positioned well

[warm crag]

just ignore the RL here

[chrome plover]

you should not be hard swapping

[clever path]

^

[chrome plover]

ye ignore

[clever path]

/gquit

[round cargo]

I'm using Rampage too many times?

[meager void]

Yup, your RL is clueless about fury warrior.

[clever path]

and find a guild with RL that has a braincell

odyns + roar + cleaving damage is more than enough

i mean he could mouseover bb but why

[eternal sundial]

fury does huge cleave if you just hold of for em

dont do anything else

[warm crag]

refer to what chawie answered to you earlier, rampage isn't your main damage source and you're wasting reckless abandon procs by rampaging twice in a row

[warm crag]

not just fury warrior

[unreal onyx]

I think factually with frenzy you are losing DPS swapping onto spears overall

[clever path]

a lot of damage

[warm crag]

no spec in the game increases their spear damage meaningfully by swapping to them

[earnest grail]

here is my spear damage

is this okay?

[chrome plover]

I think it's harsh to expect them to know the intricacies of every class when they are raidleading a guild progging early bosses

[wild mica]

frenzy is such an annoying mechanic

[eternal sundial]

do they die fast

if so ye

[clever path]

thats why u ask ur warrior what he thinks about it

[eternal sundial]

frenzy vs deep wounds pick ur poison

[warm crag]

literally no class in the game hard swaps to spear

[wild mica]

deep wounds doesnt disappear when you hit something else tho.

[chrome plover]

yeah i mean

[clever path]

ye but applying deep wounds without wb/cleave

[eternal sundial]

idk at that prog id assume ppl dont know whats optimal for their classes

[chrome plover]

he should accept being told he's wrong

[rotund ginkgo]

wish this WM comp good luck

[paper ivy]

Guys what are your thoughts on latriat, replacing shadowflame clock with a mythic 489 cloak. How does it perform on st and aoe

[wild mica]

sim it

[eternal sundial]

not good for fury in st

okay in aoe

[wild mica]

lariat sims better for me rn on ST

[unreal onyx]

huh

[eternal sundial]

cursed gear

[clever path]

maybe his cloak is ass

[wild mica]

wait it sims better than vers bracers but i guess i havent tried 2x shadowflame

[clever path]

wait nvm

his neck*

[meager void]

One clear proof of you using your CDs properly is that your dps should explode on every spear. How's spear position? It should ideally lool like three olympic rings overallaping just behind boss.

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oNUmcpneQK8D36MiaUz1pR

lariat is better in ST than I thought

[clever path]

tbf that loss is worth it

on fights where u want to aoe as well

[unreal onyx]

I mean, it's worth it if you proc in aoe