fury

[sour badger]

No-no

I meant fury warrior set

Oh I see

[fleet cargo]

There is only one currently.. other sets are belonging to old patches .. so they are obsolete

[sour badger]

Oh I see

[ember apex]

i swear blizz makes fury players sound like their adhd stepkid who they dont like but have to keep up apperances

[desert cloud]

fuk blizzard

straight up homie

[dense elbow]

Checks out

[barren dagger]

Avg fury warrior player

[desert cloud]

ok i'm still confused

in execute phase when i have rampage up and execute up which one is prio

and whenever i start executing in execute phase my dps goes down

i don't get it

[warm crag]

are you talented into ashen juggernaut

or the exe talents in general

[dense elbow]

ramp,bb,exe (if ashen), basically you get the dam of 100% crit exe for the cost of a BB delay

[scarlet swift]

Does this mean that this Ret who played like dogshit, basically kept up with me as a "good" parser? What even is this game

[dense elbow]

Ret is 80% legendary+aug, so dont mock him'

[clever path]

thats cope as fuck

even without leggo they are 245k assuming leggo is 20k on st

[dense elbow]

Dont forget aug

[gilded pawn]

he didnt play "like dogshit"

ilevel parse is fake

he was 54 and you were 74

not too big

[desert cloud]

yes

[scarlet swift]

how is it fake? he did as bad as 18% of the rets at his ilvl?

82% of rets at his level were higher

[gilded pawn]

you can be fucked by ilevel parses just through gear rng

1 ilvl on ring is very different than i ilevel on ewapon

for example

[dense elbow]

Legendary and Aug, then watch him pump

[scarlet swift]

so if rets are parsing higher cuz leg and aug, why arent warriors?

[dense elbow]

we are

[unreal onyx]

what

[gilded pawn]

but yeah the guy is probably not good and carried by ilevel

[scarlet swift]

i parsed an 82 with no leg or aug

[gilded pawn]

hes doing less damage with 5 extra ilevels

[scarlet swift]

he parsed 18 with none

[gilded pawn]

again

ilevel parses are fake

[scarlet swift]

whats it for then

[gilded pawn]

its for low ilevel players to cope

"i may have only parsed a 30 but i did 80 for ilevel so i must be doing something right"

which isnt wrong but its misleading once you get into the mid/high ilevels

[scarlet swift]

I dunno

If only 18% of warriors at my ilvl have parsed higher, its prob PI/Aug/Augury/Legend difference. Its and 18% buffer, he had a 82% buffer

[gilded pawn]

someone with a 489 weapon and 483 ring will do much more damage than a 489 ring and 483 weapon

just for example

[dense elbow]

Any reason in particular you want us to dunk on that rando ret without context?

[gilded pawn]

im not saying he did well

[unreal onyx]

ilvl parses are cope bc there are too many variables to be consistent to compare

[gilded pawn]

yeah i think we are just here to dunk on that random

[scarlet swift]

Who said dunking? I'm just curious as to why a class with a grey parse, keeps up with a purple

[gilded pawn]

because hes 6 ilevels up

[unreal onyx]

you can somewhat gauge if you are doing bad or good

[dense elbow]

Ronin broke it down for ya

[unreal onyx]

but 1:1 comparison is not possible

[scarlet swift]

its guaging, exactly, so if he 82'd, what would his numbers be

[gilded pawn]

revvez cant outdamage me if hes 40 ilevels down on me

[scarlet swift]

if he gave any effort

[gilded pawn]

wait is this m+

is this not even raid

[scarlet swift]

Fyrakk

[dense elbow]

Could be scuffed stats, trinkies, we don't know.

Heck, he might AFK half the fight

we dont know

[scarlet swift]

91% active

and 3rd dps, he aint afk

[gilded pawn]

im usually the one to not hate on stats

but it actually matters a lot for parsing especially ilevel

fixing your stats may only be like 3% dps

but that can bump you up 10% on ilevel parse

[scarlet swift]

he's also 484, its not like he's haste stacking because he's fresh

[unreal onyx]

this is hard-cope theorycrafting right here

[gilded pawn]

484 isnt high though

[regal grotto]

Can’t forget boss length as well

[gilded pawn]

you just max out whatever heroic gear you get from m+

then vault

[regal grotto]

That affects dps/parse as well

[tulip swallow]

we love superblooms we love superblooms we love superblooms

[unreal onyx]

only 7h

[lean wasp]

did they buff signet ??

[warm crag]

the trinket?

[scarlet swift]

buff? that trinket is ass

[warm crag]

it is known that the bis trinket is ass

[sudden tusk]

crit

[unreal onyx]

no, bad trinket you heard it here

[regal grotto]

👀

[scarlet swift]

Explain how a signet on 2 warriors with the same uptime on the same fight with the same signet has this much variability

[amber arch]

If i've got 2x 483 weapons, should I craft 486?

[young swan]

rng

[sudden tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km-mZplvTSY

[modest condor]

same uptime

[young swan]

same thing happened last tier with anvil

[modest condor]

minute difference in uptime

🤔

[scarlet swift]

exactly, just give me augury or rezans

if you cant rely on it, its ass

[sudden tusk]

i really wish they would stop making ramp trinkets

not a fan

[hard widget]

Well that video just cleaned my ears out

[regal grotto]

It’s been performing consistently well for me, only on short fights does it fall behind

[hard widget]

Jeez

[scarlet swift]

Just gonna use Crab or Branch

[sudden tusk]

lmao had you not seen that one before

[ember apex]

and go back to skulker's wing? is that what u want

"i love skulkers wing i have a tattoo of it"

[hard widget]

I mean i know gromnak screams everything he says so im not surprised

[scarlet swift]

its still an identical 5:31 second heroic Smolderon @regal grotto the difference should not be that

[sudden tusk]

even on fort iridikron is 6 minutes

[regal grotto]

Experiences may vary 🤣

[sudden tusk]

gross

[scarlet swift]

sometimes it pumps, but like 20% of the time, and that is ass. It can be great when it works, but its not worth the RNG

[regal grotto]

Sim is right though how did you lose 1m of uptime compared to the other guy in that example

[cloud shale]

does legendary active snapshots the haste when its used? meaning should i use it regardless if enrage bar is full or not?

[sudden tusk]

yeah it snaps

[cloud shale]

gracias

[unreal onyx]

does the leggo on-use cost rage?

[sudden tusk]

nio

[unreal onyx]

I sometimes use it when ramp is clearly usable

[dense elbow]

would be so funny if it did

[unreal onyx]

then after the cast I don't have enough rage to ramp

but I shouldn't lose rage when I am still in combat, no?

that happened to me consistently enough for me to think I am going insane

[dense elbow]

check logs

[gilded pawn]

signet has 100% "uptime" right

its just the stack count could be different?

[modest condor]

yes

[unreal onyx]

how do I check that tho

[scarlet swift]

this is the actual log of the 2 signets https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cnLy43BKYdADxhmT#fight=2&type=damage-done

[unreal onyx]

your signet is lower ilvl, so you can't compare the dmg first of all

[scarlet swift]

7ivls, 476 vs 483, is not a 3mil dmg difference, lets not pretend it is-bad math edit

[dense elbow]

recourses, check for overlap of rage and legendary useage

[scarlet swift]

3mil even*

[unreal onyx]

you have 6% less uptime on the debuff

[scarlet swift]

6% = 1 minute?

[supple laurel]

ooh, found this baby in the post after HC kill

[modest condor]

man

he had a pull with good rng

[scarlet swift]

bro

4 bubbles?

[modest condor]

why are you guys all making a mountain out of a molehill

[supple laurel]

yh lmao I ain't do shit on here except raid

[modest condor]

next pull you will have good rng

[supple laurel]

and some M+

😂

[oblique trail]

I've had pulls where my Signet was fully stacked at 1 minute

It's incredibly unlikely

But they happen

[dense elbow]

ye, signet been huge, or kinda mid - same with aug

[warm crag]

signet's still statistically the best trinket

[open prairie]

signet is the most overhyped trinket

that people chase because wowhead lists it as bis

[scarlet swift]

^

[oblique trail]

It is the strongest possible trinket

In the right scenario*

[open prairie]

in theory yes

[warm crag]

tf you mean ppl chase it because wowhead says its bis

its bis for the fights that matter

[oblique trail]

People just expect it to be insane on 2 min fights

[warm crag]

what else is there to chase

[open prairie]

idk people just allergic

to using raidbots

[scarlet swift]

its a 5.5min ST fight, it should have zero rng

[warm crag]

variance is a thing

you had one bad pull

i dont see you posting your insane rng pulls here

[scarlet swift]

yeah, 5%, not 50%

[open prairie]

yeah signet is just extremes

of rng

[unreal onyx]

or

the guy had 25% better rng and you had 25% worse rng to the avg

[open prairie]

beacon was also real bad

did you crit this one hit every 2.5mins

y/n

[warm crag]

sucks

[unreal onyx]

beacon isn't really comparable imo

[wraith sedge]

hey whats the best trinkets and embellishments for m+ only?

[oblique trail]

Simply just equip it and stop thinking about it

[warm crag]

it still did better than any other trinket on average

[unreal onyx]

it's either crit or not, signet has much more variance

[open prairie]

yeah i mean signet is good on fyrak

due to how long it is

[oblique trail]

Allied Wrists + Shadowflame/Lariat for embellishments, Might + Augury/Ember trinkets

[open prairie]

i havent seen smold kills lately

people say it dies post 3rd intermission

now

[unreal onyx]

how long is that?

[open prairie]

i think a bit over 6

fyrak maybe you can kill in like 8:30 now

[unreal onyx]

world R1 speed smoldy was 5:35

[open prairie]

less on prog kills due to likely having half the raid alive

any fight 4 and below would never use signet though

[unreal onyx]

Eroka as arms was world R1 speed smoldy

world R1 speed fyrakk is 8:30

[open prairie]

tbf its honestly

speed kills just happen when your dps players are gamers

and tanks

[unreal onyx]

true

Refined is world R1 fyrakk

[wraith sedge]

@oblique trail which is ember trinket? sorry just came back

[oblique trail]

Ember of Nullification

From Blackrook Hold

[wraith sedge]

@oblique trail ah ok ty

[oblique trail]

It's just a good statstick if you don't have Augury

[open prairie]

no idea who that is

[oblique trail]

Signet Brand is also an option however it heavily depends on the dungeon you're running, the tank you got, and if you need more boss/prio damage

[open prairie]

@oblique trail where orange

[oblique trail]

nowhere

I do not deserve it so I do not have it

[open prairie]

unfort

[oblique trail]

At this rate I will kill Fyrakk on the 15th week of the season and loot it from group loot

[open prairie]

which week is this

[wraith sedge]

@oblique trail tyvm

[oblique trail]

Idk I think 11th? of being able to loot the lego

[young swan]

12th

[open prairie]

fyrak timers are

omega cursed now

[young swan]

maybe 11th

[oblique trail]

I don't keep count

[young swan]

we are currently on week 13 total

[oblique trail]

I just know I don't have it yet and it depresses me slightly

[open prairie]

you phase into intermission around 2mins

although some guilds seem to be holding

until 2:30

[kindred notch]

best stat for fury warrior ? how much we want vers and mastry?

[open prairie]

sim top gear

[clever path]

at this point you could say mastery, but if you were here in S2, it's basically the same percent and you just sim what pieces of gear are gonna be the best

[dire vigil]

How come everyone always used to say haste mastery for warriors and now it’s mastery vers. Is it just because of set bonus or have people just been incorrectly saying to prioritize haste that much?

[young swan]

haste isnt as important because we arent running AM

[dire vigil]

Ahh ok

But S4 it’ll go back to being important

For Ravager Reck CDR

[sullen dove]

for hitting cleave as arms

[open prairie]

@oblique trail i was looking at sl screenshots and found this

[warm crag]

no defensive cd (immunity or cheat)

[oblique trail]

Warrior very squishy class

[fleet cargo]

My brain stopped during reading this

[glad coyote]

no we arent lol

[oblique trail]

Wdym that's what that person wrote

[young swan]

sarcasm challenge

[warm crag]

literally impossible to complete

[dire badge]

wdym wdym

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1165062419505233940.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[dire badge]

ok real

[open prairie]

discord has some real gems

[oblique trail]

I need WA to tell me if I'm behind man or not

[open prairie]

i need more dragon bosses (wings cover entire part of screen under it)

[oblique trail]

Enchanted dust moment (nerfed)

Our RL on Rasza had it be a part of his rotation

[flat sapphire]

Is it worth at this point to switch to arms or just stay fury this season out

[dire vigil]

I face tank shit all the time on warrior and then when I switch to DH I have to remember to use a defensive

[warm crag]

i want a WA that blinds me permanently and leaves me incapable if i ever get parried

[dire vigil]

“Woah no way, that one shot me. I swear I wasn’t in front of that big purple frontal animation”

[indigo quarry]

based

[oblique trail]

I have a practical WA (stab your eyes when mechanics happen irl)

[dire badge]

wow u are noob for want that weak aura -_-

[warm crag]

you should have to fill out a google form if you dont soak a seed

[sour badger]

hey guys... can someone help me

trying to start this quest chain

but khadgar is not giving this quest

[eternal sundial]

thats the shaman orderhall

are you a shaman

[warm crag]

is this an addon or does the blizz ui do that

[eternal sundial]

addon

btwquests

[warm crag]

hmmge

[eternal sundial]

this not a questline warrior can do FYI

orderhall is class specific

[sour badger]

thats

[eternal sundial]

you start it by going to dalaran (crystalsong forest portal)

the one you had linked is shamy

but its this thing is a part of each OH

[open prairie]

dont need to do those now unless you want artifact mogs

[eternal sundial]

they prolly do want that

[open prairie]

which btw which enh skin is the elemental particle hammers?

[eternal sundial]

pvp i think?

[sour badger]

actually doing it specifically for it

[open prairie]

its the best shaman skin imo

whichever skin is the hammer that is like pure energy

[eternal sundial]

@open prairiemeant these?

[open prairie]

yeah

[sour badger]

because ive finished doing the campain and while trying to queue for dungeons trying to get a purple version of artifact weapon

[eternal sundial]

then youll find khadgar at the tower in dalaran

[sour badger]

look

[thorny peak]

I thought the tower artifact appearances were essentially gone?

[sour badger]

he just gives completely another quest

[eternal sundial]

the rest isnt

[eternal sundial]

he offers 3

[upbeat sentinel]

Nerfs to fyrak look nice

[eternal sundial]

do that one then

[thorny peak]

I got the base one the heart one and the hidden one

[eternal sundial]

no harm in completing and seeing if he'll offer it

[wary fjord]

The nerf to fyrakk I want is that he gives us the axe and he has to punch the tank while we finally have the damn axe

[sour badger]

its reputation quest

[wary fjord]

[eternal sundial]

its just getting friendly

[sour badger]

do i just need to complete quests to get the rep?

[thorny peak]

Don't be like me make sure U have the item on that toon

[eternal sundial]

go to orderhall order map and select zone do into and then next

easy complete

[eternal sundial]

what axe

[thorny peak]

Ree3ee where my leggo

[wary fjord]

[sullen dove]

voodoo on your forever

[spiral oasis]

only a small fraction of people who can have axe, do have it! Curious, blizzard!

[gilded pawn]

My favorite axe is from mists of tirna sithe

[eternal sundial]

had it for ages bro

[spiral oasis]

one thousand weeks into the patch, no axe!

[sullen dove]

perish

[eternal sundial]

[wary fjord]

[eternal sundial]

shrimply aquire it last year

[sullen dove]

honestly not sure if I’m even acquiring it this year

maybe next year

[spiral oasis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/938489442828701747/1152189362461749290/ded26276547ede069c352ca0adf39a317d0c9e1c.gif

does this to u

[eternal sundial]

[eternal sundial]

i am cursed

[spiral oasis]

i guess i just have higher t cuz i don't need an axe to do big damage yknow i guess

[sullen dove]

xan when one of the first few ppl in da worl to get

[sullen dove]

nice.. sockets?

[young swan]

without me complaining about it, it wouldve never been buffed to where it is now

[sullen dove]

[eternal sundial]

ye its me yapping abt vault

[indigo quarry]

they did those buff so late i cant even smh my head

[sullen dove]

i mean at a certain point vaults do get pretty useless

[eternal sundial]

he simmed below me even with it

[spiral oasis]

some ppl don't have axe or vault drops

[eternal sundial]

dark place

[spiral oasis]

[eternal sundial]

losers

[sullen dove]

[spiral oasis]

i have been getting straight up cucked

I'm just gonna keep doing solo shuffle

it's over

[sour badger]

oh than you so much havent thought about it like that

was actually searching for the quests

[sullen dove]

it’s almost fun to have a rly good sim without leggo, cuz the tantalizing thought of getting it and showing the gear compare shows where I would be

[young swan]

people still think that having both bis trinkets is worse than having the lego!

[sullen dove]

still 12k below ret pallies

[young swan]

they need to seek professional help!

[sullen dove]

supplement with other trinkets! No leggo replacement!

[covert blaze]

leggo = bad
-xan

[eternal sundial]

i dont have augury yet xdd

[young swan]

nothing comes close to signet + augury!! nice try!

[sullen dove]

in raid probably correct! but leggo single best item in m+ for the spec!

[young swan]

augury literally matches lego damage in mythical dungeons plus!!

[modest condor]

omg!!!!

[sullen dove]

and if u had a crab guess what you’d be doing more damage instead of augury showing up as however many%!!!

[young swan]

augury is literally the best trinket in the game!!

[sullen dove]

and leggo is the best weapon in the game!

[young swan]

ur mald cause u ripped augury and signet w1 and now ur being punished for it

voodoo

[sullen dove]

voodoo

[arctic portal]

how is pips for fury? 😄

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-witch-doctor-mano-tiki-tia-gif-15319797

[eternal sundial]

dece

[young swan]

mid

[sullen dove]

it’s aight

not like, worth salivating over

but fr aside from the possibility that aug/signet can wildly overproc in raid and be far better than leggo compared to the next best trinks, leggo def infinitely more valuable than any trink in m+

[sour badger]

Guys what are the levels of reputation with factions

And what you get if you have max/min with all of them

[sullen dove]

ppl don’t even wear augury in some of the highest keys using ember instead cuz I mean sure u need to live but it also is pretty potent aoe dmg

[sullen dove]

Dragonflight factions or old ones

u can see the renown rewards in dragonflight but for old reps they’re pretty much u can only check on their respective reputation vendor

[sour badger]

old ones i guess

ive seen renown with new ones

[calm swallow]

Just watched 7 people get the axe... still not my week

[sullen dove]

can also just search the rep on wowhead and likely find most of the important information regarding it

Like some reps have quests locked behind different tiers that might not be immediately apparent

[dire vigil]

On the same kill?

[calm swallow]

Yep

[eternal sundial]

next week

[wary fjord]

Can I join your next kill?

[calm swallow]

This is honestly the first time I've even seen it drop, let alone that many

4 fudging months in and more embers for me.

[wary fjord]

[calm swallow]

Next week

[wary fjord]

I've never seen it drop either

[calm swallow]

At this rate the next season will be here before I get it

And who knows, embers probably wont carryover to next season lol

[wary fjord]

If they don't, that's fucked

[calm swallow]

Stealing this lol

[wary fjord]

Same

[calm swallow]

And it would not surprise me at all if blizzard said something about the fated raid difficulty being a different tier so they can't code the bad luck protection to carry over or something.

It'd be nice if they at least gave SOME indication as to what % increase the lesser and greater embers gave, so that I could at least be like "okay hey nothing this week, but now I'm up to 50% chance" or something

[eternal sundial]

its always 50%

drops or doesnt

[calm swallow]

kek

[wary fjord]

It looks like about a 1% increase per week

At least according to some data I read

Which is rancid for BLP

[calm swallow]

I like how they said they wanted something we'd make progress towards instead of just relying on RNG, and yet we're relying solely on RNG, just slightly weighting the dice week by week

[wary fjord]

Should have started at 1% drop rate, and increased by 5-10% per greater ember and like, 2% per lesser

If they wanted us to make progress towards it, it would have just been a shadowmourne collect 50 shards quest

[pliant berry]

Lego copium intensifies*

[wary fjord]

They just want to keep people logging in each reset to try for the axe, and the lessers exist to keep you on longer killing the other bosses

Yes

[covert coyote]

If you wanted the axe you should have played pally

[pliant berry]

Lowkey the Lego isn’t that important for majority of players

[fleet cargo]

good pov

[wary fjord]

Yeah, but it still feels bad to not have it when the other warrior in your raid has it

He gets to have fun with shiny axe

[pliant berry]

Yea lol that kinda sux

[clever path]

It feels even worse when both tanks have it, won't even bother to make it and the other warrior and DK both have it, you're same ilvl and still outdpsing them on M smolderon

[covert coyote]

I out dps both warriors and all the pallies that have it in my wack guild

Feels very bad indeed

[calm swallow]

Ret and BDK in my guild got theirs yesterday.

[wild mural]

high value legendary

[pliant berry]

Fr Lego is mid and price is whack

[clever path]

The only two who don't have it in my raid group are me and a ret pally, both of which are still beating those with it

[wary fjord]

Oh, it don't get outdpsed by the dude, I just also want to have the shiny stick to use

[wary fjord]

That is giga rough ye

[wild mural]

[spiral oasis]

I've still seen a total of ONE drop.

[pliant berry]

Kek

[wary fjord]

Maybe I'll get it for my birthday later this month

[clever path]

Yeah, and to just rub it in the prot pally has an alt in another M raid group with as a ret pally

[wary fjord]

Oof

[clever path]

he got it on both toons before I got it on even one

what kinda whack luck is that?

[wary fjord]

Bad luck, that's why we have protection

[calm swallow]

The paladin in my raid who got it... his paladin is an alt, his main is warlock (although he does also change mains regularly)

[wary fjord]

the protection exists I swear

[calm swallow]

[wary fjord]

Maybe I just have to do the legendary "die on pull" strat to get it

I've heard of others getting it like that

[calm swallow]

Tried that, didn't work

[wary fjord]

[sullen basin]

anyone got any bad pc-inclusive smolderon tips to not get obliterated during flame waves spawn? fps drops massively and i almost always get naenaed by it

not really an issue unless I just soaked

[fleet cargo]

search smolderon particle density on wago

Maybe that wa will help

[sullen basin]

If I launch my browser I'm gonna delay the pulls by like 5 minutes

https://tenor.com/view/im-having-a-connection-issue-gif-18822004

[slim pollen]

I think your group took all the leggos assigned to this reset...
I was in a group with 20 plate bois and not a single one dropped ._.

[sullen basin]

gonna kill fyrakk hc tonight 100% drop chance

[graceful coral]

pog

[gilded pawn]

pawn is right

its a 13% upgrade

pog

[clever path]

zamn

[plucky ice]

hell yea brother

[warm crag]

you want vers with legendary so i wouldnt equip it

[wild mural]

13% upgrade

[acoustic furnace]

Turn everything down to min settings (except for spell density and projected textures). Open task manager and turn off anything running in the background. Close all of your browser tabs. Disable add-ons that you aren't currently using such as rare scanner or auction house add-ons.

[clever path]

Ragnaros, quel thalas and azralon. The trifecta get the lego before you.

[acoustic furnace]

Wait Azralon is a jaja server?

[clever path]

It is brazilian server

Technically a chicago server but for brazil players

[acoustic furnace]

Oh my God things are making so much more sense now.

[young swan]

u can fully turn off spell density for every fight except nymue

[acoustic furnace]

Nice didn't know that

I always had it set to the second lowest setting

[young swan]

yeah its just free frames

and often it just improves visual clarity

[clever path]

They shown new hero talents

more externals!!!!!!!!

[young swan]

yeah lots of people very unhappy with the priest stuff

[clever path]

Why so ? I haven’t checked them just saw a notification on phone while driving back home

[young swan]

1min PI that can rng proc on multiple friendlies

with 2 charges

[wild mural]

ayo

that's insane

[young swan]

they changed it a bit more than that but thats the gist

[sour badger]

+4 without a healer

[acoustic furnace]

Healer in my guild was saying it's strong but the way it cycles through the different buffs is absolute garbage. Basically a slot machine button.

[sour badger]

omg it was hard

[clever path]

has nothing to do with being strong or not

we dont need externals

at all

pi should be personal

aug shouldnt exist

we are getting more aug

shit

I wonder if they are going to give a mechanic to slayer like light smith paladin, the dk dnd kind of stuff

Or banners

slayer is imo gonna be leech / raw damage

Arms leech would be nice

[acoustic furnace]

Yeah it should. Now I will admit it was poorly implemented but a more refined version of it would be sweet. The only real reason against having them is they take up a DPS spot but that's hardly an argument.

[young swan]

I think aug currently is in a pretty good spot

at least in dungeons

in raid it could use some more refinement

[acoustic furnace]

I personally hate them in dungs. They're either god tier or the worst player in the group and I'm not willing to flip that coin.

[young swan]

same could be said for literally any pug

you dont notice mediocre

[acoustic furnace]

Yes but a bad DPS can still DPS. A bad Aug is dead weight.

[warm crag]

they're legit the same

[clever path]

support specs dont work in 5 man content

[young swan]

a bad aug will probably do more for your key than a bad dps unless if the dungeon is wcm

[sullen basin]

died to tindral root stacks for the first time they're saving CR

[covert coyote]

WCM the only place I refuse to bring an aug

[light stump]

I did not get traded the one-handed axe from tott and then upgrade it thinking it was a 2h

that did not happen

(I realized when tmogging bc it looked small)

[flat sapphire]

It was guaranteed

[eternal sundial]

easy

[sullen basin]

It wasn't guaranteed

[wild mural]

end me (in game)

[wild mural]

End me

[warm crag]

we have pulled the turtles classic and killed it on the last pull of the night

[unreal onyx]

only 272?

[wild mural]

we have pulled the rat pack classic and pulled continuously with little to no progress cause new people

[unreal onyx]

Astral break!

[covert blaze]

Did crit get leggo

[unreal onyx]

the heavens fall!

thank god I don't have to listen to that for a long time now

[craggy escarp]

Nope

[covert blaze]

a futile attempt

[unreal onyx]

fyrakk prison time (I have a way out via work & vacay)

1 week of suffering, then 4 weeks of straight bing chilling

then get back, get CE on the 2nd/3rd kill and be over with the season

[barren dagger]

only 6 of them dropped

[olive wraith]

Another week another ember

[calm swallow]

Same thing just happened to me

[unreal onyx]

I feel bad for ya'll that still don't have the leggo

every week I see the despair with the greater embers

[barren dagger]

the other warrior that was 3.6k didnt get it either xd

what a system

[unreal onyx]

rng doesn't care about your io

[wild mural]

rng doesn't care about your feelings

[unreal onyx]

rng cares about logarythmic number generation

[barren dagger]

it's fine

[hollow dawn]

whats better dps in m+ right now ret or fury

[slim coral]

\

based

[eternal sundial]

[report]

[slim coral]

👀

[clever path]

[Report]

[wild mural]

[Report]

[indigo quarry]

[Report]

[slim coral]

soon we will be twins

just need 2 more keys and we'll be matching

[sudden tusk]

last 27 i need is EB

[slim coral]

eb is so fun

on fort

[sudden tusk]

i go BS build

and spin

[slim coral]

you can just get go arms and mass BS

lol yeah

great minds think alike

[sudden tusk]

ive been running jugg

for arms but idk

[slim coral]

I need to find a 31 ad or brh

so I can reoll key

jugg feels ok

[covert blaze]

arms is stinky

[slim coral]

jugg to me only feels good once an add gets low then

[sudden tusk]

i keep trying to make it work

[slim coral]

cause you can just spam exe

[sudden tusk]

but idk man

i want my class to be good

[covert blaze]

I've been playing vdh

[slim coral]

our class is actually so bad that not even the lego can save it

[covert blaze]

Sitting in LFG forever is not fun

[sudden tusk]

i think we're just designed wrong

they actually cant buff us or we go out of control

in raid

[covert blaze]

Make ww 8 targets

And adjust accordingly

[sudden tusk]

i dont wana be a purple man

[slim coral]

how would you like them to design us

we're already capped

at =5

and don't even win there

[sudden tusk]

i kinda want them to scrap the ww buff at 4 targets

[slim coral]

bro imagine how nice it would be

[sudden tusk]

and instead you just get a buff that lets your shit cleave for the next 10 seconds

[slim coral]

if the cleave was uncapped

omg

[sudden tusk]

or just blade flurry

fuck it

[covert blaze]

Uncap ww and make it 100% to all targets

[patent sinew]

Is it even possible for Fyrakk to drop Leggo axe on LFR or Normal if you've already done Heroic for the week?

[slim coral]

no

[wild mural]

no

[slim coral]

slayer should buff our cleave I think

[patent sinew]

FML .... this axe hates me 😂

[covert blaze]

No

[clever path]

slayer sounds like raw damage

and self healing

[slim coral]

idk what a slayer in warcraft is cause I've never heard of that word even in Warcraft 3

[covert blaze]

You're gonna do heroic Fyrakk every week and you're gonna like it

[patent sinew]

REEEEE i've done it every week 😦 and it still hates me 😦

[covert blaze]

@hasty path slayer implies bleeds

[hasty path]

[sudden tusk]

just give us ignite

but its blood

[slim coral]

what would be even cooler

is if when an ad dies to a bleed

the bleed dmg popps on nearby targets

kind of like seeds of corruption

[clever path]

bloodbath sounds way too cool for what it actually is

should be a mini cd

if u ask me

[dapper goblet]

used to be

https://tenor.com/view/smh-cigarette-gif-24294903

[dire vigil]

And will be again.

[dapper goblet]

negative

[indigo quarry]

blizzard hate warrior

[dire vigil]

Season 2 won I thought

[fallen pivot]

Corrupting rage or verse phial for raid?

[covert blaze]

🤖

[sinful spoke]

Vers for prog

[covert blaze]

Corrupting is more damage but as you know it has the dot downside

[sinful spoke]

Rage for reclear

[covert blaze]

Stormy did a dreamleaf for me love him

[barren dagger]

we shoulda had a blademaster hero tree

[covert blaze]

So true

I just want to be Samuro

[young swan]

real

[sour badger]

transmog ready

now its time to get actually better at this game

[tardy lark]

you got this

[sour badger]

damn

its a week since i started playing

but this game is just insane

[tardy lark]

its very big

[sour badger]

sad i didnt give it a try before

[humble plover]

Ss this so you have it to reflect on 10 years from now when you're still playing and suffering

[covert coyote]

A good expansion to start with

[clever path]

true

[humble plover]

I'm on year 7. Never been more depressed

[covert coyote]

Will be 20 this Dec. I’ve become immune to the despair, jaded by the consistently shattered expectations of both players and game.

[clever path]

🫂

[cobalt mason]

hey hey,
I've been mythic raiding as fury warrior, (I don't know any other spec) the last couple of weeks, my ilvl is 484, but my dps is graaay as and i am far away from others

can someone help me get better 😄

[humble plover]

Get some logs together and post in #449510248579858432

[willow patrol]

you guys using piercing howl this week for sptieful?

[sullen dove]

naur

[willow patrol]

not worth?

[humble plover]

No. I just let them hit me and heal it back with impending victory

[sullen dove]

idk if anyone takes it tbh

[willow patrol]

i just ran one with monk healer monk dps warrior warrior and pala tank

it was awful, but maybe its just a bad comp

[sullen dove]

might help a little but i mean most groups can either just rotate aoe ccs or just move away if not like constricted

[prime root]

i just ww cleave a hamstring if needed

[humble plover]

^

[willow patrol]

cool

[cobalt mason]

btw my stats unbuffed are: Crit 18%, Haste 25% Mastery 51%, vers 26%

[willow patrol]

i rerolled from aug that had so many tools

feel bad for not doing affixes but i guess not worth

[humble plover]

Always laugh and say stuff to my friends whenever I'm actually on a class that can deal with affixes. "guys let me do stuff finally!"

[covert blaze]

Were they not using ring of peace

[wanton mirage]

Press F for subcreation

[silk gate]

Guys

is there a guide on how to optimally use the leggo

[clever path]

Use it when youre wafting devotion procs and enraged

I dunno if thats right but

[covert blaze]

It should still be data driven, I doubt it gets worse instead of improving somehow

[silk gate]

I've been using it with Odyns Fury and Enrage

Idk if avatar even affects it

[clever path]

Nono

Dont use it with cds

[silk gate]

Not even smalls

D:

[covert blaze]

Don't use it with CDs unless you lose a use

[clever path]

Either use it on reck/charge/ramp on pull

[silk gate]

on reck?

when i proc

or

[clever path]

Or just use it post cds on enrage/wafting

[covert blaze]

I wouldn't care about wafting tbh

[silk gate]

Just fuckin send it?

[clever path]

Send with enrage for haste buff

[covert blaze]

You can look at lorrgs for leggo use

Just make sure you're enraged

Because enrage gives you haste

[silk gate]

Ye ye

i have only been doing it during enrage atleast

So basically

Only send Fyr'alath when enraged

if wafting is up its mad bussin

Dont touch the weapon when in cds

[halcyon hollow]

where do i find the raidbots sim input-strings for bufffood and runes?

[fading sky]

wow for a new player can be daunting, but also rewarding if u bother settin of some time to read guides join a guild ,and hunt transmogs 😄 is always a great thing

[sullen basin]

With 27% Crit outside of OF I regularly don't get BT crits for like 4-5 hits and also ramp rarely procs reck, or if it does I still fail 3-4 hits no Crit :< how do I get luckier is it a skill issue that my procs don't proc

Feels like I'm playing storm sham s2 again

Would it be a meme to deliberately get more Crit to game tindral roots with more OF uptime

[storm rune]

Only one way to find out

[silk gate]

Equip that arms gear

[wise fulcrum]

does anyone know how i enable this details after key popup? my friend says he just got it after an update but it didnt automatically show it for me

[blissful kestrel]

I use double crit rune on wep

[sullen basin]

I don't have arms gear

[blissful kestrel]

For tindral

[sullen basin]

With corrupting rage phial it still feels like I never Crit it's insane

How much does that give you

[silk gate]

Im sitting on 21% without any buffs

[sullen basin]

33 with

[silk gate]

27% with

[sullen basin]

Bet you're getting constant crits as well

[silk gate]

Not rly

[sullen basin]

I sit at 27/25/56/22 unbuffed

[silk gate]

Idk it feels normal

[sullen basin]

Sil tells me not much is better

[silk gate]

do you have the BT Weakaura from last tier

that showed the crit chance

[sullen basin]

Nope but I stare at my buttons often enough to see the number on OF not go down my eyes kinda rest at my feet where I see my buttons

Feels so bad having like 8s on OF and only getting a Crit when it's like 0.5s left

And at that point your aoe requirement is gone

Might try the Crit runes next week

[modest condor]

[sullen basin]

Sim

Typo somehow

Played same as last fyrakk kill did 25k less DPS somehow probably just had God procs last time

[sullen basin]

[storm rune]

I have 14% Crit /flex

[covert blaze]

Rent free

[wild mural]

REAL

[sullen basin]

[covert blaze]

Me in 10 years when I don't get Air'falath the Nightmarerender

[wild mural]

me in 10 years when I didn't get augury of the primal flame

[covert blaze]

[static flint]

does anyone have a WA for tracking Fyr'alath dot on mobs? Testing it out on the training dummies, and doesn't show overhead, just when you have a mob targeted (next to their portrait). Additionally, does anyone have a macro for it mixed with any other abilities?

[high basin]

You can use this for the dot https://wago.io/wmfJ_MEXm/1

And don't macro it

[static flint]

so no zug zug macro? :v

[high basin]

It can get you killed so you are better off not using it on a macro

[covert blaze]

Don't macro the leggo, no

[brittle crow]

i see so many people complaining about oracle priest

its rad, anyone complaining is bad

tbh

[modest condor]

nah

[brittle crow]

we gotta take ur yellow away... ur bad..

[oblique trail]

Healing received useless buff who cares
Magic and phys damage buff will only really be good on specs that do full (or vast majority) of one damage type and doggie on hybrid specs

[summer quail]

and i thought my bait was bad

[covert blaze]

No shot that stuff makes it live

Right?...haha..

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=382794/restless-crew
Never forget this from SL beta

[wet notch]

So I got curious if i should change up gems and enchants and a few pieces of gear. does this look good for ST fury (Unbuffed)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ozQkqJfFFfzTHesjLNkT1c

[covert blaze]

Why are you swimming unbuffed

[wet notch]

idk honestly.

is that a bad idea?

[covert blaze]

Just sim regular

[wet notch]

okay ill do it again

[covert blaze]

No one really sims unbuffed so we don't have a good reference

[wet notch]

okay ill go again

[covert blaze]

Put avoidance on your cloak

[sinful spoke]

Wtf how are u simming so low theres no way unbuffed does that little

With ur gear u should sim like 200k unbuffed no?

[wet notch]

i'm not sure 😕

im a noob

[zenith osprey]

hey im workin on leggo quest, the thingy says im supposed to get a "tattered dreamleaf" i can use on people to give them the quest to help me. im not getting it, where is it supposed to come from?

[dull sierra]

superblooms

[zenith osprey]

ive done 3

[dull sierra]

ouch

from the bags?

[zenith osprey]

also is it a consumable or reusable?

[dull sierra]

consumable

[zenith osprey]

yeah ive been opening them

thats kinda lame

can i use it on myself?

[dull sierra]

buff is permanent tho

yes

[zenith osprey]

neat

[storm rune]

You'd be surprised how much of our damage comes from external buffs

Take all your buffs off and watch as you're suddenly doing S2 DPS

[wet notch]

Reason i sim unbufed so when i hit a target dummy i know where im at

[slim coral]

my spear macro isn't worrking and I changed the name

anyone can copy past their macro here

[dull sierra]

link macro

[stoic scarab]

Buff is permanent after you they do it with you. I think you can do on yourself I didn't realise when i did. But the person has to come with you to onarhan plains to hand in quest then use the thing on you. So its not just do the superbloom and done.

[dull sierra]

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Champion's Spear

[warm crag]

i stole this macro

it is mine for the taking

[dull sierra]

NO

YOU CANT HAVE IT

[warm crag]

i will throw the spear at my cursor and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it

[clever belfry]

me when i lost my cursor (it went to ranged i am stupid)

[warm crag]

nymue wall spear incident

[slim coral]

my macro is

/cast [@pulsar wing] Chamion's Spear

[dull sierra]

no p

chamion

[slim coral]

oh lol

[dull sierra]

:)

[slim coral]

it works

[dull sierra]

btw you can shift click abilties from your spellbook into macros

[slim coral]

huge

[clever belfry]

chameleons spear

[slim coral]

[dull sierra]

auto fills the name

[clever belfry]

or u type correctly (couldn't be me)

[dull sierra]

yea ofc that'd be the ideal

but cant guarantee anything

[jovial coral]

It's cuz bro is pushing p

[dull sierra]

@modest condor i see you doing superblooms at this hour

go to bed

[modest condor]

are you in the same group?

[dull sierra]

yea :3

[modest condor]

oh yeah i see you

[dull sierra]

only big one at this hour

[calm mantle]

Ican finally buy it but my wallet says no

[modest condor]

need to finish before tomorrow

[drifting copper]

signet is only viable in raid correct?

sims high in dungeon slice but on details it seems to be underpreforming

[modest condor]

no it's really strong in m+ if you're able to stay in combat

[drifting copper]

ahh im just farming 18's for vault rn

[calm mantle]

Gotta have constant combat to keep stacks up.

[drifting copper]

not in combat like a 23+

[modest condor]

you're thinking way too low with that 23+ lol

i wouldnt expect to be able to stay in combat until you're pushing 28+

[drifting copper]

yeah im just a puggin zuggin warrior

my first expansion

[modest condor]

the damage of the trinket scales exponentially with stacks

[drifting copper]

i could prolly run 25-27's but not with no comms

[modest condor]

so if you constantly drop drop combat and reset stacks it'll do 0 damage

[drifting copper]

appreciate the input

that makes sense. I like fat pulls and fast runs but you know how it goes when every group is different.

[dull sierra]

My internet died

WHY NOW

[modest condor]

xd

you're still in the raid

you missed green bag already tho

[calm mantle]

Rate my rep

[modest condor]

i rate it 18367/10

[dull sierra]

I think I just got virgin mediad

It’s dead dead gf

[modest condor]

rip

[dull sierra]

Gg go next

[amber arch]

Think I’m going to need to start a shitty Ret Pala blacklist

[modest condor]

171 leafs, next superbloom im done

[wild mural]

[drifting copper]

completed mine earlier. the follower dungeon trick worked like a charm

for the grip

[covert blaze]

What's the tech

[wild mural]

ig start a follower dungeon, and do the grip part of the quest

cause the npcs heal you

[covert blaze]

ya spongie ya thief

[wild mural]

unbelivable Im calling the cops

[red yew]

ya spongie

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[winter shoal]

Any tips on how to stay sane during p1 tindral prog

[sinful spoke]

bis

macro

[hardy cargo]

ive now seen it all I am about to start a night of fyraak prog with 5 hunters KEKW

[upper wigeon]

FINALLY GOT LEGGO BOIS

[stoic plume]

gz gz

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[eternal nebula]

can you get a friend cross realm to craft the items you need with inscription/enchant etc?

[void blade]

Do i wait until my full avatar falls off to use legendary during normal use or just reck?

[sullen dove]

ideally you wait yea cuz its not affected by avatar so technically losing a bit of dam you'd otherwise have on normal abilities

but if youre also doing it for specific timings in a fight and its during lust or something its probably not the end of the world it's prolly like a second and a half channel now or something with it

[warm crag]

you say this yet you are ember gang

[sullen dove]

pmuch just check logs/lorrgs to see when ppl use it on specific bosses

[warm crag]

suspicious?

[sullen dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960914817160450078/1080686594979270656/attachment.gif

do not speak to me

[warm crag]

please do not mass stone me

[left perch]

oops is my spear on top of a lamp in the air? wtf

[left perch]

dude did you loot the fkn axe

[modest condor]

@dull sierra trying again i see

[dull sierra]

i got the green bag from the one i dced in

im 153 now

[modest condor]

im at 192

[dull sierra]

oof

[modest condor]

last one was in my home shard so i didnt get a 2nd boss kill after leaving

[dull sierra]

im probably 2 more

i hadnt tried that tbh

will do it this time and pray i get good rng

i have 2 stacks so might be able to get it

if not tho ill be awake until the 6am one so ill get it there

[modest condor]

yeah

[sinful spoke]

guys hows my mog

[modest condor]

cute/10

[void valley]

Why do dhs run throw glaive build

[sinful spoke]

ty sil

how are u enjoying the leggo?

[sinful spoke]

because of their tierset?

that guy is just ass i believe tho

[void valley]

He doesnt have 4pc

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/K0uQy/3bba5e4454.png

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-duckling-haha-classic-gif-17283485

did u get buffs?

i got giga buffed on my dk and got 80-90 and finished that part on 3 blooms

[warm crag]

i had it for a while

[brittle crow]

even silm has the lego now...

i am the only one who doesnt have it

[tulip cedar]

how come fury is running all 5 pieces of tier? wouldn't you want to drop the legs for a piece with more vers/mastery?

[brittle crow]

i sure wish i could trade in 1 of the 3 mythic garrosh mounts i have for it

haha :(

[warm crag]

offpiece doesnt really matter

i think the technical bis runs the pants from the first bosses but really it dont matter

[void valley]

I thought it was AD head

Archi told me so

[warm crag]

lemme check

[void valley]

archi list

(not that i know what im talking about)

[warm crag]

the bis simc profile uses some dawn pants

really, you shouldnt worry about what some list says is best but rather what you have avaialable to you right now and what you could gain access to soon

[void valley]

Real

[dull sierra]

@modest condor ez

[modest condor]

you done?

[dull sierra]

didnt even need the double bloom

ye

[modest condor]

nice

me too

was done after the blue bag

[dull sierra]

yea saw u leave

[warm crag]

noobers getting the stick

[sinful spoke]

no hate on my boy sil spongie

👊

[warm crag]

who is hating

read it as noober (endearing)

[sinful spoke]

calling them noobers

[warm crag]

you must be a noober if you see noober as an insult

i am a noober

[left perch]

I also do not. Very upset.

[sinful spoke]

mods hello

spongie being toxic

[left perch]

Cheche is wrong

if any mods are asking

[sinful spoke]

i am never wrong

[left perch]

called the least toxic person to exist toxic while having 2 orange axe and giving me zero

sounds wrong to me

[sinful spoke]

listen bro

if i could share leggo

id sell it for gold cap

just wait till i get my 3rd and 4th

[left perch]

well, that’s all you can do I guess

I appreciate the thoughts and prayers

[sinful spoke]

u get urs next week tho

do not despair

be positive

[brittle crow]

u can have one of these kor'kron juggernauts

if i could trade em

[left perch]

😿

[slim coral]

wait the lego actualyl sucks for boss dps

in ST fights

lol

[covert blaze]

free damage bad

[tulip cedar]

ilvl bad

[upper wigeon]

can anyone help me with superbloom farm??

[slim coral]

btw

council is still ass

fuck this dog shit fight

[sullen dove]

news to no one

[acoustic furnace]

Larry down bois

On to smoldy

[slim coral]

the bosses jumping around tilts me

right when I pop my cds boom boss jumps

[sullen dove]

look at timeline for leaps and blinks

assuming its on there

tho sometimes deer will leap and not leap

[void valley]

pushback cast ties to leaps i think

[sullen dove]

before first rage

[sullen dove]

bird didnt get nerfed hard enough

[dapper goblet]

dumb

also

@slim coral bobas owns u

[slim coral]

he's got leggo fuck off

[sullen dove]

bobert

[dapper goblet]

lego isnt good

you guys said it

cant cope with it now

[sullen dove]

who is "you guys"

[dapper goblet]

all of u

[sullen dove]

maybe next week

[thorn venture]

no.2

[sullen dove]

so glad grom didnt get it 🙏

[sullen dove]

[left perch]

every1 with axe sucks btw don’t at me