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Pugging is actually the worst experience in this game
u say that like the boosters dont have 60 mil each and 2 mil means literally nothing
That sweet spot when you’re grinding weekly vaults and getting paid for it first few weeks is just 👨❤️💋👨
Idk, it’s part of the game for me. Just natural ebbs and flows
But I’m not a 15 year vet
I have 300k across all characters because I'm addicted to buying tmog off of AH so 1.5 mil is huge to me
You are playing a very different game than the top end players
I button clicked a Hunter when I little and actually started playing a year and a half ago with a 6 month break
Well true, but I don’t have a network that includes the top 0.1%… yet
I wonder what the 3600io gigachads think of players like me. I must be an absolute shitter compared to them.
And I consider the average player to be a shit can. So I wonder what they think of what I consider a shitter.
I don’t think they spend much time doing that xD
3.6k io kinda braindead this season
play the game 12 hours a day and you'll get there
Yeah naw
I get 3k then stop pushing. I find it to be the sweet spot for insta invites to pug groups
I’m not 3600, but that’s their pov
Most of them are just grinding in their own little circles
The guy in your key right now isn’t even thinking about you
i mean why would i think about other players dunno
as far as I can tell right now ur a jumble of pixels you aren’t even real
they do whatever the fuck they want

some just farm mounts some just are there for raids
I don't mean sitting there pondering me specifically I mean like their opinion about the player base as a whole
same thing
@tardy larkstill waiting on fyrakk lockout payment (can i get a IOU for u to make t3 for me once i get the mats?)
They will see a 3400 player in their key miss a kick and cast him out like he’s the absolute worst little dribble of dna leaked from the most garbage vanilla wow dad
So if you’re 3k you’re basically Follower dungeon
more than likely you’re on a tyler1 style list and all the 3600 players are gonna hunt you down
idiots exist at every IO level
yea i keep a int list, i will find your key and i will troll
Maybe I’m wrong tho
eu is just toxic as general
Welp the good news is I only do M+ for vault and apparently imma start selling runs because holy shit that's just easy money
what are people buying? +20s?
So the lifers hating me is okay
everything
how much
Apparently a full vault of 20s can net you over a million gold
what the fuck
when ur 3man of 3.6-3.7k rio that timed a rise 29 gets declined to a 29 fall cuz ur not a full meta comp
evil voodoo upon my self
My sentiment exactly
u can easily time 20s with 2 /3 good dps as well without being a god gamer
Greater Ember of Fyr'alath 😎
season 2 voodoo
Timing a 20 is easy. As long folks don't die at least.
But w pugs you never know. Had a healer eat the scythe throw on a 21 BRH and insta quit.
this is ur own personal
or something
have you tried not looing the bad luck protection?
lotta cap anyway
lol
biggest cope
the blp is 100% placebo physical object
y
no way that shtis real
just loot the lego
I'm actually also starting to believe this placebo theory
if it actually worked they would've shared their workings and the various %
but since they didnt
11 weeks into the patch and still no legendary
its 100% placebo
this is fucking hilarious
abt to start a fall 29 in case any1 is interested in watching for whatever reason
with nivs and muffin
then maybe dht 29 or 30
I got a 30 atal
are you free to come?
i'm not mentally unwell doing high keys
ask vil
so no
real but i do it anyway
nothing gives me more satisfaction than seeing +3 points on a meaningless webside

it's in game
what are you yapping about
our tank
but to be fair, the score is coming from the website
im farming rares with that top guy rn 🙂
before key start
so im still right

not anymore
it's in game now
and evo left cuz its his key
voodoo upon you both
i have no fkn clue what this means but thank u 
voodoo
voodoo
im just going to cope and tell myself its good
because it was said when a ✨ Greater Ember ✨ dropped
you dont want to be cursed by the wonka voodoo mamajuju
monka giga ice spice
i fear voodoo
same, i dont even want it anymore tho (i do and i would kill for it)
does anyone have a weak aura that just tracks the avatar buff? I have one on my pc but working remotely and trying to get the laptop set up and have no idea the name of it. i think i took just the avatar buff out of the buff bar that critcake uses
Hello.. may i ask.. we started M Smodleron and when i checked lorrgs.io and logs in general.. everyone poping they CDs from beggining.. is it better than hold it for intermission? or its just farm thing.. so for prog hold it for inter?
pop it on pull and place your orbs in a certain way so you can grab them late with your cds in the intermission
just watch the critcake smolderon video he probably explains it
Thank you.. 🙂
another week of getting fucked by blizz
🤝
rekt 
critcake did a great video on that
ah nvm someone said it i didnt read
god man smolderon is such a blast on every difficulty
i thought it got very boring til execute
just bl pot and 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 or some shit
idk man i enjoy it hella
did a normal skip and did 318k on that shit without wft/lego
Normal dies in 1 burn no?
Ask muffin about the tilted fury warrior on that boss in 25 
i have a question. i have been in here b4 asking about why my bloodbath damage is so much lower than other people... and im here for the same thing again. what am i doing wrong? not enough crit ? not saving bloodthirst cooldown for when it turns to bloodbath?
Press every single one and of on cd
i do, but my bloodbath is almost always 20-30% other warriors?
As a percent or raw numbers?
M+ or raid
cant help you without a log
raid useally and like if i do 10m with bloodbath they will do 13-15m
imma find a log
If you're looking at raw numbers it could be a lot of things. Might be doing things well but you're comparing yourself to people with better gear.
im 485 ilvl not many above useally
thats why im confused
whatsa good raid fight to give a log on ?
volcoros
gotcha, how do i share it just copy the url ? or is there a share button?
just copy the url
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/18PNw69HVZBYjXnt#fight=9&type=damage-done im Greenymeany on the list
i mean
you could make your cooldown window a bit tighter, but i dont see any major issues there
and there's no other warrior with 13-15m bloodbath damage to compare with
yeah hard to find a figth with a comparison. i can send a nymue
its also hard to compare specifically amount of damage done by an ability not just cuz ilvl differences but fight time too
true
if the fight lasts longer naturally an equal skill warrior just does more dmg with their abilities
dps usually the more all encompassing number to look at aside from small windows of killtimes where it also can vary pretty strongly
fkn ret palas
dude died like 8 times in the key and still outdpsed me
got eaten by rezan, didnt bubble of BoP himself
tank got eaten by rezan, pally didnt BoP him either
got aggro on a bird double pull, didnt bubble or bop just tanked the pull for 5s then died
I swear they only know how to shit divine storms
bottom interrupts, barely CCed, zero Sacs on healer
anyway rant over
Many paladin rerollers nowadays
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dtNMcpJkTARDKqPb#fight=58&type=damage-done this might be better there is another warrior to compare . this was when i was 480 ilvl and the other warrior was 2 ilvl more . not much but
ya ive got a prot pally too that I play ret sometimes but ive still got my freedom macro set up and know when to use my BoPs and sacs and like, bubble myself. These guys dont press their buttons
I got a stupid question : OF applies 5 seconds of Avatar. If you cast Avatar right after it ads the 20s to the 5. So you have a 25s avatar. Then what's the point of delaying avatar cast ?
pug pally = automatic bottom interrupts
to not overlap the 4s dot of OF
Factual. They’re garbo
this doesnt stack
Ah because if you cast avatar it overlap this dot ok
after OF I usually hit roar, BB, ramp, BB, ramp Ava
while most likely not the only difference and a lot of it can be drawn to his gear is just better, especially having 2 489 weapons is a pretty big deal, you used your last spear on the cycle warden add, presumably not when it was in execute range, when he used his on the boss in execute range, and at the very least his usage of spear almost certainly net more damage
it might not be a lot in the grand scheme of things but little things like trying to game cooldowns to use in execute range of targets can be a good boost to dmg
And is it better to catalyse shoulders or legs ? Legs give haste and shoulders crit
But you also have vers on legs
both probably
Wich is good ?
the answer youll get here is usually "sim it" especially for gear questions like that
So i go 5 pieces
where you might be doing 300kish bloodbath crits normally on that add, his were doing 500k because they had extra execute dmg multiplier
Y y thats true
https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/mm+ this is what the top M+ warriors are wearing
@sullen dove Gotcha thats good to know ! its just a mastery of the class thing. also the 2 weps is nuts... my box has never yeiled a wep so pretty brutal
is there deminishing returns on mastery>?
technically yes, past like around 60% theres a small amount of dr but like almost all of the time you should just follow what raidbots says to equip
and while most ppl would say not to use statweights and generally its not the number one thing you should be following for upgrades, as far as i know they are accurate only to your current gear you have equipped, so if youre interested it might be a good thing to say for example, use stat weights to get a general idea of what stats you want to go for, like if verse/mastery are you top two, try and pay attention to those items when they drop and see if simming them works out
Imagine raidbot/simc is never invented, forums are gonna be wild today.
is anyone wearing the pants that give haste on damaging new enemies in M+? they are kind of sick looking
like of note your waycrest ring has a lot of crit, and maybe its your best simming piece currently but i wouldnt be surprised if a lot of rings out there are better, cuz we're not that hungry for crit and that ring has a lot of it
so possibly like the haste/verse ring from waycrest manor or atal dazar or the crit/verse one in raid might sim better, and you can find those things out by using droptimizer
dont use stat weights

yeha i did the droptimizer and the highest upgrade is 11dps increase so hard to judge
i did all current dungeons
ill do it again to b 100% sure and yeah
i tried to use the like raidbots type in a name and sim and it looks like you did already get a 489 weapon so thats good
were in m+ talents so not the most accurate st numbers but i mean that and heroic augury like youre not lookin too shabby in terms of gear, didnt realize u almost 486 so yea its possible not that many dungeon upgrades
aside from like specific jewelry pieces or super heavy stat weighted offpieces that are a lot better than what you have
for instance these boots are heavy verse mastery, where your current boots are heavy haste mastery, which could mean you might have slightly more haste than necessary, at least compared to your other stats
and again this is in your titanic rage/whirlwind/shockwave build so not completely accurate to performance in raid, but general things like this is nice to look at sometimes
even if youre not gonna go out of your way to get the pieces listed, just knowing what stats it thinks are better for you can make u some decisions about gearing in the future, for example, i would assume since it wants you to drop ~500 haste for ~400 verse and ~100 mast, you might find it better to swap all your mastery/haste gems to mastery/verse
and top gear u can just choose to swap em out and try either the mast/verse or verse/mast gems and not unlikely they show up as better
gotcha yeah i was thinking of switchin the gems to vers my haste seems high from what ia see in others .
im at 32%
yea maybe a tad bit higher than most, which is fine if robot says that, but often you can just find ways to slightly remove some haste and add other stats
like perhaps even recrafting weapon to verse/mastery if you have access to someone that can do that for not a stupid price
yah i tried the other day and guy wanted 150k... i have a guy but hes not playing right now
You wanna be around 25% haste like 30%+ crit, rest into mastery and vers
If im not mistaken
yea i think 25% haste more accurate than 30% crit, ik my crits at like idk 23 or so before crit phial
also depends what phial you use most often
which is pmuch always crit except for smolderon and maybe should start using it on tindral too
regardless not looking for exact percents just sorta throw things into the blender of raidbots and itll spit out the best stuff
oof i might have too much mastery
62% unbuffed
but yeah sim told me to change food for Fiesty Fish sticks for more haste and crit
40/40/10/10
where's my hype up


not rank 69
L
stop doing keys and wait for 1 person to beat you
and stay there
funny number
Besides simming is there somewhat of a baseline % for haste? I've been reading around it and would like some second opinions
idk anywhere around 25%ish is probably a safe enough place to be
assuming ofc youre like around the endgame ilvl most ppl at of like 485+
this is what i've found out last night any lower than that feels slows my rotations
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MGQBVq1pnrfTbt64#fight=4&type=damage-done heeres heroic fyrakk just a minute ago full single target build mind u
if slightly above 30 w/e
no I must become rank 1
full single target build with titanic rage?
I must prove to myself I can do it
I will make you proud
lol
i dont think anyone just goes from zero to hero in 1 patch
well i didnt take advantage of that the way i should have then lol
especially on fyrakk though spear is almost always super inconvenient
and like everyone just picks roar anyway
whether or not you want to ww talents or st talents in spec tree not as big a deal, tho most ppl also just ww talents
this i agree with
if you use spear you gotta be sure youre like, actually using it, no boss randomly teleporting away to tanks, and like you fit at least 3 empowered bb's in it, which is most of the value of spear already
i know i saw that stat weights is not accurate but this is what it said anyway
also in your opener it seems you odyns > spear > rampage > bb > so on and while that worked out ok since you took titanic rage, typically you dont want to open with of as your first global
yea i mean about what's expected droptimizer wanted u to get more mast/verse anyway
bro i dont get how can people play ret without doing funny sac shit
with sov
boping etc
its so nice having utility
its insane
Are the haste pants viable in m+? It’s a shit ton of haste on pull and this week there are spitefuls spawning…
yea i think its a lot more valuable on spiteful weeks, hard to use around if tank is pulling super slow or not like. "well" for it
but unless youre doing like above 25's really minmaxing embells shouldnt matter much and playing whatever feels better is fine
it might be slightly more troll on tyran weeks in dungeons with hard bosses but otherwise it dont matter
Well I’m running shadoeflame wrists and cape now. Was about to craft the version wrists because I see everyone running them then I remembered pants. They feel so good when you’re bursting on pull
Mini PI
they litearlly just bent that fucker over
yea vers wrists pretty objectively best choice in m+, nice st and also benefits aoe
its rly the other sf you'd be replacing for haste pants most likely
or even lariat might be decent with full gemslots
yea its just 4 seeds the whole time
this will be a wonderful change when i get there in 2 months
maybe i have leggo by then

Perfect time for me to start prog on him
Also I think the play might be slaughtering strikes this week
Everyone runs bloodcraze
its like, bloodcraze/ss/aj/massacre
only real choice
yea
i mean its good for bosses
just doesnt rly help aoe that much
Ya
So basically DB+SS
I might experiment with TR too
In like EB or high aoe keys
SS is just so much more aoe for not that big of a loss in ST
it's not so much "not accurate" as it is "not relevant for making gearing decisions"
the only actual relevance i see using it is if you dont have raidbots premium and youre unable to droptimizer every dungeon all at once, you can use stat weights to just pick dungeons that have gear with those stats, instead of doing literally every dungeon one at a time and putting all the best items in like a document or something
no that would still be the wrong thing to do
whats is the mastery verse gem called.
something neltharite
zen neltharite
thanks !
kk switched all gems to have mastery verse and switched big diamond to have mastery and primary instead of haste. recrafted wep to have vers mastery lol
you did uh.. top gear b4 doing that to make sure it was like, all good right, cuz it mightve said to only do one or the other, not both, but whatever i mean most likely it was somewhat of an increase at least
the basic gist is use top gear to make all the changes you think you want to make, like you can select swapping stats on a crafted item or changing gems, then run it and kinda follow along with what it says is the best option, within reason of course, like if it says swap all your gems for 50-100 dps thats not rly worth following cuz most likely just a small sim variance
welcome to the club
just loot it
1 in my raid
i wonder what its like to be the main character of the game
and have leggo
fated to always be a side character
its ok
yeah it looked like that a little bit
cant wait to get lego and still be 10k behind because no wft 🙃
this is all the differnt relevant gems combinations
basically haste vers mastery only left out crit
yea looks like u went up by 1000 dps from last ss so thats good
wont be 10k behind when we get s2 back
you're welcome
so when people say you you mostly spam BT/BB when u can when is the scenario that u dont?
when you like, get rage capped from hitting slam, there isnt much reason to hit bt right after slam
50k dps in my heart, even if it isnt real
i thought the goal was at many bt/bb to get odyns back
feels like dogshit to lose reck
thats most common advice for people that feel like they sometimes have dead globals, like for example if you hit rampage the second its available every single time, youre more prone to experiencing the situation where you just hit bb after rampage, but your slam and whirlwind is still on cooldown, and you cant hit anything else until bt comes back off cooldown
so you "lose" a global
gotcha. and also i have been confused with odyns vs avatar. which one first if u have both?
this happens most of the time when you dont have reck and any other buffs running and youre just kinda chillin, cuz you gain rage kinda slowly outside of cd windows, so like if you ramp > bb > slam > bt > ww > (ramp becomes available i.e you have like 90ish rage) >bb, slam and ww still on cooldown
but if you hit bt one more time before that rampage, to where you're not gonna over cap by getting the extra rage, you get 1 extra hit in for the cdr, and you give 1 more global of time for slam to come back off cd to use right after the bb
and so you dont lose a global there
usually ppl do odyns first cuz you get the cdr benefit from critting with 6 guaranteed crit bb's instead of 3 or 4
thats what i thought
say you avatar first, wait the customary 4 seconds for odyns dot in that time you can bb twice, then you odyns and do 4 guaranteed bb's after that, u only get 10 sec of cdr on odyns
where if u odyn'sd first youd get the full 15 from all 6
you pretty much open like that on every boss except smolderon for intermission shenangians and most everyone holds cooldowns for tindral vines
and i mean technically igira too but thats like only 5ish seconds of holding
maybe larodar too..., anyway not that big a deal
yeah i have been doing that odyns, 2BB's then avatar then 4 bb's
yea thats pretty much cut n dry perfectly sculpted opener
so maybe my main issue is just the mastery being about 10% behind normal
on the fyrakk log u linked you odyn's first global which you typically want to avoid
got lucky that u had titanic rage but even with it its not as good as reck > charge > ramp > odyns > spear > continue rotation
instead of how u did odyn > spear > ramp > bb
thats so odyns is hitting while enraged?
yea and spear
spear isnt like insane damage on its own but any bit helps
and not using a free 50-60% dmg buff on it why not
tbh i thought odyns fury enraged by default... maybe thats a key im missing also
and also just getting the bb stack so youre prepared to bb right away in spear, instead of rampage > bb, which doesnt matter as much if u dont lust, but if you do lust you should be able to fit 4 bb's into the spear window if u do it right
yea nah only titanic rage talent makes of enrage you
OMG. thats the key.... i just did dummy again and damage is much higher than i would normally do ... i must have known that b4 and lost it ... wow. insane
poor odyns fury not getting the love it deserved.

crying for s4 cause of this
s4 raids gonna be so cheeks man
theres actually just no better talent combo/set than this season for specifically 99% of raid bosses
s2 def dominates m+ which i mean is most of the game for most ppl cuz theres always something to do, where u just kill the same few bosses in raids
but man cringe company cant even let us pick
man i wish they just gave us all of them
@sullen dove i really appriciate the help ! incrediblly helpful !
and didnt bother with balance

zug hard soldier
i mean thats just common sense
if u are still enraged at like 100 rage
and bt is back
u press bt
then ramp
ret plays like that as well
yea i mean if ur still stuck in last season mindset of "oo shiny button glows up i have to hit it" might not be as common
true
theres just not a huge requirement to have to do that this season anymore
you dont live and die by rampage giving u am and uf procs
its just kinda a "give you enrage and bb" button

ra cool myan 
it was cool in SL when there was a valid reason to use both
bring back that kind of tuning
RA the better st talent and AM the better aoe talent
no lego from heroic -_-
anni needs to go
yea
an another god awful talent
well, idk about anni specifically, but like rav just being tied to am is too strong
anni just doesnt have any business being a capstone
^
whats the real chances of the lego lfr normal heroic?
if anni did like 5x more damage
anni should be like crusading strikes
somewhere in the middle
i mean its a demon blades clone
i mean i know our chances but on the books chances
just put it in the same area as demon blades
storm of swords needs to die tho
dogshit talent
idk i think like 10-15% of eligible characters have it, or at the very least ppl that have gotten aotc once
real
the most troll thing about sos is ww doesnt generate rage in st
its literally just a button
that does damage
and nothing else
its funny too
primest example of a filler
"does damage" 
psure ww is more dmg than slam, but idk
cause ww should just do as much damage as it does with literally every ww buff
maybe not with 2x cf
i love
when my filler
out of 2 fillers
doesnt generate rage!
the first time i found that out this season i was like "what am i looking at"
imp ww should be baseline
its literally attached to meatcleaver or something
theyre equal with no CF and no ww talents
or that one yea
like it generates 3 rage i think
on 1 target
how is that not baseline
that is nothing
but better than 0
those 2 rly should just be 1 talent
and it should also just give more rage for targets hit, and the baseline rage just be on the ability
weirdchamp
imp should be baseline and we should just get an additional ww enhancer
perhaps a proc
that makes ww do lots of damage
no
Die mbg die
wrong proc
the class spec one where it does an extra hit of dmg per cast except its not piss damage
seismic
wasnt that like a legiondary that was not complete ass
or was it bad then too
jus do dat
ye was just hitting twice. no 30% bullshittery
doing a lfr and someone who was under me in dps did 9 more bloodbaths than me ? maybe im still missing somehting
nvm ... i did way more bloodthirst ... need to focus more on bb
having more bloodbath casts without any other context doesnt mean anything
they could have 20% more haste than you
true. they did 9 mor BBs but i did 20 more BT ? odd am i doing bt too much?
presumably they had more rampages than you too for that to be the case, i think its pretty uncommon for # of casts of ramp/bb to be very different
in which case its possible they were doing the thing of just hitting ramp the second it comes off cd, which again isnt necessarily horrible to do but leaves you more open to afking a global down the line
so like just cuz they have more bb's if its only a few more there prolly isnt a drastic stat/skill difference there, maybe just slight gameplay
like you hitting bt more often would assume you got more cdr on odyns so you mightve hit odyns once more than they did and thats way more important
^ I have that problem. Slam/WW on CD, no execute proc, not ready for Ramp so I just cast a BT to get above the line to cast Ramp
you did say you beat them too so unless the'yre far under you in terms of ilvl if they're similar to you you can "play better" and have less bb casts
in the situation of you losing a global typically its you already have ramp available right after you hit slam or whirlwind, and people hit that ramp which would cause issues down the line, the like "play" there is to hit bt even if ramp is available, assuming youre not about to overcap rage
but again doing that a couple of times isnt that big of a deal, even doing that most ppl dont lose out on a global more than like 5 times a fight max
Your spells and abilities have a low chance to grant Annihilating Whirlwind for 20 sec, causing your critical strikes to deal 50% additional damage as Wind split between nearby enemies.

its just small little things of "if you can hit an extra bt without wasting resources why not"
wont upload log for some reason. they did 9 mor BB, i did 20 more BT, they did 16 more RPs, they did 10 more odyns? litterally how?
cant imagine the odyns thing is correct.. 16 more rampages is whatever tho
they were just prioritizing that i guess
it was tindral so maybe im just holding too much
Damn this is very cool and original GarmW dev when?
o yea no i mean on tindral you almost always want to have an odyns ready for every root set
whether its regular odyns or you save avatar, thats just u kinda gotta look at fight timers and know ahead of time whats the best cd to use when
Warrior would actually be well designed and properly balanced
So never
So real bestie I believe you'd be able to do it
never be called gfury again
I think to your point I don't always trust Anni so I hit slam/WW and ramp was about to light up so it hits right as the GCD for Slam/WW gets spent 🫠
Can you just sneak in another Arms aura buff for the road for my Fyrakk prog starting this coming reset though
Thanks
Nah, the times I've enjoyed wow the most
Was when both arms and fury were equally competitive

so real for that
i was diehard fury main until 9.1 where you were basically hard trolling if u werent nf arms
rly opened my eyes tbh it was pretty fun
and since then just kinda been comfortable playing whatevers best
usually fury tho if i can help it
It's definitely fair to enjoy an archetype more than the other options you have
But depending on the content you do, it probably wont fly
so many of those
yea ww also doesnt generate rage in pure st talents so youre more likely to experience that on only a select few bosses
mainly volc/nymue/smolderon, basically only bosses u dont take ww talents for
got a warlock complaining about destro's place on the rankings when i tell the mf "demo and aff literally 2 of the top 4 on that list blud"
he plays demo a ton too
but idk big fan of destro ig
which is real when i played lock destro seemed the coolest
aside from whenever another random spec is doing damage i like the feel of casting gigantic chaos bolts that chunk mobs
even rof spamming s3 shadowlands was like, about as maniacal as it got that shit was beyond fun
obliterate all spec otps
ur allowed to be a spec otp if you class only has 1 spec of that type
like ret is only dps spec pally, so if thats the shit u vibe with go off
but like rogue/warr/lock/mage/hunter alla them, if one spec is just way worse than the other for dmg u gotta be comfy swapping
And if you don't want ?
the only ones that might be slightly off from that is shaman and druid cuz swapping melee to ranged or vice versa might be weirder, technically surv hunter too but like, jus do it

i mean most guilds it doesnt matter, but like if ur trying semi serious mythic prog and one spec is just that much worse you gotta think about putting your team ahead of yourself
this was a 1 week difference between me on heroic sylvanas, being hardstuck wanting to play fury for 9.1 then finally bit the bullet and swapped to nf arms
never played arms in my life before
Today I have entered the halls of legend fellow warriors . 3 axes dropped in my raid and one of them was mine 🙌🙌🙌
and literally like a 15% improvement in dps, just for being the right spec
idk how common it is for spec differences to be that big, but i think that was def one of the biggest differences ive ever experienced at least
Congratulations

gratz
I had 21 lessers total not sure on Greaters the weakaura I was using doesn’t track greaters (hopefully this helps yall gauge where ur at % Rng wise )
I did a test with SMF last night.. Nothing super long but SMF was less spiky, TG peaked/burst way higher, but they both ended around 145k ST. Obviously TG is boss but I expected SMF to be substantially lower
Sharing this info will for sure help everyone
u shouldve seen
9.0 release
an extra 2.1% increased chance 
actually yea i think i played arms like, only on huntsman cuz that shit was fun
both were shit in cn
but yea it was like arms/venthyr i think and then fury nf became huge
well tru i literally got benched on sludgefist on my main, and came in on 217 fire mage
Arms is fun but def requires cd coordination unlike fury where we just go brrrrr that’s my opinion tho
I mean neither spec really has a ton of planning that differs
They're both 1:30 specs with a bit of damage every 20-25
Unless you play BS which is different
arms has a lot more tho
is it better to kill fyrak on all difficulties for axe or just go for the hardest 1 straight up ?
I feel like fury is just timing . When u wanna pop ur stuff where as arms u gotta line up some things . Etc then again don’t listen to me I only played arms for like 2 weeks this season
Yeah but you can't plan around SD procs happening
yeah but they have to happen
Highest integrates the lesser difficulty chance
Okay?
Yuh uh
I still can't plan around SD procs
Noob
That's like planning around passive trinkets proccing or enchants
Surely this is how it works 
holy 
Yeah I'm just gonna plan that my augury does 20k dps this pull
Surely I've never had packs many times where SD didn't proc on pack pull 
For sure for sure
bros been queueing since the dinosaurs were around
228 years. holy moly
They did the math
Fuck man, blizz gotta stop focusing on raid asap to help this man
Three life cycles worth of queue time
And ZERO invites
this was me
real for that
GOT A SICK DROP TODAY GUYS
ember gang
Common Jackie W
at least someone in our raid got it (our bdk)
me

ima be in here farming it until 11.1 of the war within
surely blp might actually add up to at least 50% by then

surely blp works
stop tinfoiling
im 99% sure greater embers dont do shit
ok on what basis
i've looted the ember more times than i've looted the lego
therefor they do not work
math checks out
correct
i mean they said that doing the highest difficulty is all u should do
why can i loot a greater from normal and heroic for example
lessers is a different story
they said on heroic and mythic
and greaters arent even trackable
one can only assume the embers work much like the actual rolls for the legendary, in that getting heroic ember first is adding up all the previous embers before it, cuz psure u dont get a normal ember after doing heroic
but that could also just be horseshit cuz how would any of us know better 
we love ambiguity 

i think its still pretty comfyi n the middle of the patch
we got at least 3 more months
surely
whats a good overall for 485 roughly in a mythic 20?
900k
that so wildly depends on the dungeon and how your tank pulls
^
Plus the general feel of the community is dead, most people are raid logging, if that at this point
why isnt leggo guyaranteed on mythic
hof closed, it no longer matters to keep it this "oo cool" item rare
just give leggo to everyone eligible
u finished proc
prog*
its irrelevant anymore
let people use it in m+ or w/e
revvez got leggo
what are they doing with lego next patch?

Would be too convenient to give a legendary when all you did was complete the hardest content in the game
true

probably same thing they did with sylv leggo
bleh did lfr normal heroic no lego sadge
just an item that ups it to the ilvl
"uhm ackshually after nerfs and having max ilvl mythic fyrakk is easier than a +31 key" 👆 🤓
Would not be surprised if mythic drop chance increase was equal to HC from normal
same tbh
🤓
Fr fr
so real bestie
bro straight up doesn't understand how a simple counter works in code
? u have blp variable and greaters just add to it same with lessers
heroic greaters add more than normal but why are lessers trackable
but greaters arent
Sad bricked 3 dhts 😦 well get em next tyr
Next tyr is a bit cringe for dht with enraging tho
🧎♂️
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mRTjY4NKwPLx2r1b#fight=7&type=damage-done the bb seems to be better on this attempt its normal vs the other logs but stil bb is on par with other warrior of similar ilvl
gajeel i am depressed im also logged into pink class for fyrakk prog
jeelin
🫶
no....
another one falls...
brown class again on thursday
guess I did something wrong on the sim lol
hey guys i checked subcreations 2 months ago and i saw barely anybody using the lego, is it just not that good for us?
Unironically i died a few times while charging with it

the ss from ret discord
"im noticing a lot of ppl arent using this weapon, dont they know its the best option?"

Hmmge type beat
that is true tho, i use the leggo. it does alot of damage, idk why no one else in my raid isn't using it
@covert blaze forgot to ask was my stream quality ok
i couldn't tell you i followed and tuned in and i instantly fell asleep, literally
i couldn't even say hi
nah no flame i was omega tired
Ahhh im all good lmao
Bro my tank fell asleep mid voice
While we got accepted into a key
💀💀💀💀💀💀
Me and muffin just talked to him for 5 mins til we heard snoring
Couldn't be me cuz I'm peak d3 washed up league
Haven't touched it in like 2 years
We have no way of proccing this right
Without aug-or-REEEEEE
Sflame
Volo trinket
the nature part we can't proc at all i think
Yh no nature
isnt OF fire dammies too
Ah, it's like me trying to figure out where an extra 15k dps came from as Arms not realizing I still had both fury weapons equipped lmao
aug legendary and shadorflame cloak
rip still no lego. There is what, 2 months left to this season?...
The last time anybody talked about the Neck, something about Corrupting Flask proccing the Nature Damage came up? Finger's crossed it's full on bullshit.
yeah the self damage from corruping rage does proc the fire soak version
hmm i could see that
It does?
yesnt
you deal nature damage to yourself technically
Thsrs cringe
If the trigger is just spaghetti, corrupting pot absolutely can be dealing damage
you also deal that damage
so it does proc the fire sield
And pointless
Standing in fire procs nature absorb and corrupting rage Phial damage procs fire absorb
feedback loop for HPS parses?
im sure shadowflame procs this
so just the head enchant
i need help
its also the reason having more vers makes u take more recoil from shadowflame patcg
I still don't see the neck being good outside of giant vers stat stick
What's high keys?
ignore the passive honestly.
trying to get title
You just said why it’s good… Vers
sim it
Unless ur aiming for 29+s pointless
Yes but u can grab literally any other piece of gear with vers, neck has crit
@rotund ginkgo I mean, 2 very specific damage types that you mostly would find in the Raid and sparsely elsewhere at times. Fully random. It's never been a reliably insane effect, but depending on one's Gear, the Neck is absolutely fine to use.
It's just a bonus
like legit the answer to all 480+ ilvl questions you can answer by simming
Brh neck is 600 mast 1k vers
It sims as better than mastery neck
i have the vers bracer embellish - i'd have to recraft on boots or something
Sims better than that too
That's why I said, outside of vers stat stick the neck isn't special
So unless thode stat weighs are good for u, no point
Those
Not for me?
If you change your gear around it can
Garms asked about it
Yeah but why would I change my already optimized heat
Gear
What's my incentive to go through what's already bis for me
Something to do
🤔
do you have the lego
if only odyns fury still did fire dmg 😦
Odyns fire dmg poggies UwU
Yah, but trying to think for people who don't
I mean, sim it at the end of the day. I'm running double shadow flame
think I'll just keep thunderous roar even in single target fights 🤔 the spear only sims like 700 dps better for me in single target
i got my volo neck like week 3
its still not bad its a crazy amount of vers
its just weird when you try to pair it with igira ring
It is yh
1.4k vers is massive
I recently changed from the 1k mastery 200 haste tindral neck
To the brh neck
I'm at a fat 28 vers
shadowflame embellish or nah
augury, leggo,sflame and signet
My signet has been heroic for like 7 weeks
is there like any racial that does nature damage?
😭😭
MAAAAYBE Tauren?
Stomp?
Idk if it does dmg or just stuns
I ttink it just stuns
was about to say lightforged draenei but that's guaranteed to be holy or radiant
prob
rasz trinket is how we proc it
got augury, but my signet is from normal 
imagine not having augury....
oh i read up oops
At least I won't be getting augury on my ret
why are you so hurtful
yknow what would be cool if the dragonriding talent tree choice node that gave you a shield or damage actually did enough to be somewhat of something to consider
also my ret also has augury 💀
imagine playing ret
like if it did 100k damage upon landing for instance, instead of literally it does 11k
so u just take the 10% hp shield every time
IT HAPPENED
gz

I AM NO LONGER AN AXELESS LOSER






@sullen dove L
gratz
perish
oh I wish
as do i

hi zhai 
hi 
If we aren’t getting lego after 12 weeks
When are we
Season ends in 1 moth or so lol
At least I can enjoy that I got CE w 483 trinkies and no leggo, it's officially my claim to fame
we have at least like 8 weeks
Big
Imagine playing warrior ew
this is the worst lego to get ever
This week is gone anyways
were about to enter week 12 I believe
even more so they tuney class around this lego
So we still have 8 weeks
At least probably
I doubt we will see a sub 20 week season
Last two weeks no one plays
🤓 there’s still 8 weeks to get it guise don’t worry plenty of time to enjoy it 🤓
We got solid 5-6 weeks to push keys
That's not what I said
It is pointless now, I have the xmog/achieve from my ret so I legit probably won't bother making it a second time lol
what the point to get the lego at this point
Sweet I got another greater ember. One week closer
Based
Unless ur pushing high m+ or high parses I don't see how leggo is relevant
Genuinely
I'm rocing 483 x2 weapons on mythic tindral prog lol
lego + a 489 weapon is a 16k dps upgrade
Im doing 25s and there i see the damage different
I mean I'm 3625 IO and CE, so legit it's just a fuckin waste lmao
Next week it drops for u i believe
Yeah I only got mine at like mid 3.5 lmao
Surely it helped push but not pigging
Pugging

From mid 3.5 to 3.6+ it was just finding good players to stick around with
I think I'm gonna be fine for title anyway, and my ret is gonna be 3700 this week too so we gucci
Spoken like an undercover pinkman main
Where's the RAGE?
My ret got leggo 2nd kill
Bruh I been a warr main for 20 yrs D: this breaks my heart
But can't gimp the bois forever
I'm aiming for almost 3.7 minimum this week
I got some big Tyra keys
Rank 1 rise for warrs 🙃🙃
I think this week can be some 29/30s so I might go crush a few
But feels rude to my team tbh
Imo rise 30 fort is doable
u cant pug high keys as a warrior if u dont have a group
U can't pug high keys if ur not meta*
Also depends how lucky u are
I got into a tott 29 and timed it full pug
i made an aug and still dont get invited
And it was a rank 34 world 💀💀
Be careful the last time I said that I got flamed and told Wars are fine
Rerolling this deep into m+ is a bit iffy
Nah warrs are not fine at all
We don't provide anything outside of niche reflects
And not dying
Were better at 28 29s than at 25 26s
Because survivability plays a bigger role
And u can't faceroll as easily
Keys are less forgiving if ur metaslave dh reroller dies twice
what am I supposed to do? quit and come back next season?
Depends if u pug it's fine if it's ur key and yall had an agreement then ye it's scuff
I wanna play my dk but I don't want to get through that shit again
U chose the most brain dead fisher price spec to reroll to
The one that cruises by under the radar the most
So ofc it'll be a dogshit experience
i thoguht aug was meta




