fury

[rotund ginkgo]

422.1*

[fallen ginkgo]

Bro i just killed fyrakk and 2 windows popped up, one telling me that i dropped ember and the other one below telling me i dropped leggo.

no i only have an ember in my inventory

i got scammed.

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[spiral oasis]

HAHAH

There's a weak aura or addon going around

that trolls all plate wearers in the raid

[sudden tusk]

didnt someone recently make a troll wa

[spiral oasis]

By giving them a window that says lego dropped

[fallen ginkgo]

this should be illegal

now my motivation literally dropped to negatives

[clever path]

Lego doesn't exist

[fallen ginkgo]

my friend who plays pala got it..

[clever path]

Doesn't exist

[spiral oasis]

it only drops for paladins

Warriors are second class citizens

[clever path]

Then why my ret not have it

[spiral oasis]

You're a warrior trapped in a paladins body

[covert blaze]

belteshazzar ban avoid number 4389

[clever path]

[fallen ginkgo]

any link to this?

[clever path]

I'm going back to warrior next season

[fallen ginkgo]

or any other info

[spiral oasis]

idk i saw a post and it looked legit

I can google it ig

[clever path]

Even critcake doesn't have legendary so it must not exist

[spiral oasis]

way of the warrior

[clever path]

@mossy fox does legendary exist?

[sudden tusk]

he also hasnt got it yet

[clever path]

I'm mad

Blizzard scam

Takes all money give nothing in return

[fallen ginkgo]

i have it already, thanks

and i know who trolled me

[spiral oasis]

find where they live

[fallen ginkgo]

i will, i will

wont say much more cuz TOS

[spiral oasis]

and then kiss them

[fallen ginkgo]

im acutally pissed

[spiral oasis]

LOL i would be too

[clever path]

Back to fury discussion please

[fallen ginkgo]

https://www.twitch.tv/bizentein/clip/FamousPiercingArtichokeCharlietheUnicorn-tru0Tu_nuVbCQdDL

me right now

[clever path]

So, season 4 gonna be litty

S2 set yay

[sullen dove]

yeah for arms

[clever path]

S2 set go brrrrrr

[sullen dove]

s2 set go 💤 🛌

honk mimimimimimi

[clever path]

I'm having more fun with arms rn than fury

who isnt

tbh

[sullen dove]

did just get buffed to be better

[clever path]

S2 set will make me happy

Some guy tried scamming me for missiv change, 20k

[worldly shard]

feels good

actually was over 110k

[spiral oasis]

how

ur a better healer than my resto druid pugs

[clever path]

ok guys

i may be too dumb to play paladin

so i am warrior again

[covert blaze]

huh

[clever path]

paladin is even more faceroll lol

[barren dagger]

u just press divine storm and everything dies

it moves as well

its like having 100% uptime on ravager

[covert blaze]

it just casts a circle that moves forward every cast

[worldly shard]

and u also have huge melee range

[covert blaze]

melee
ret
good one

[spiral oasis]

LOL

[worldly shard]

but paladin is only for christians so id rather stay a warrior

and roleplay garrosh

[spiral oasis]

r paladins just smart warriors

[clever path]

paladins are just coward warriors*

[spiral oasis]

intelligence is a warrior nerf

[covert blaze]

every time a ret dies in one of my keys i look if they have bubble available

they always do

[clever path]

oh no me takesies too much damage time to bubble bath

[spiral oasis]

HAHA a fucking paladin with bis trinkets and legendary bricked our atal yesterday because he died on Yazma INSTANTLY

He had every defensive up

[worldly shard]

because paladin is for weaklings

[covert blaze]

people play that class because it's easy and immortal

and proceed to do bad damage and floor pov

it's very interesting

[spiral oasis]

Last season I never saw a ret paladin use their freedom on freehold

[covert blaze]

I had a 488 ret with leggo doing 200k overall on a 23 EB earlier today

[spiral oasis]

and there were a good amount of ret paladins

[spiral oasis]

how

[open prairie]

average ret doesnt use their non damage buttons

tbh

[covert blaze]

i asked that guy to freedom me from the dreadpetal's pollen before the key started

[open prairie]

average ret also does tank damage on bosses

[covert blaze]

he never casted it once

[spiral oasis]

they have a fucking mitigation that does damage

[open prairie]

i ran into a vdh who never used silence sigil once

[spiral oasis]

IN EB?

[open prairie]

atal

[spiral oasis]

oh ok yeah still

[open prairie]

yeah and his havoc guildie

wasnt even talented into fear sigil

[covert blaze]

sigil of silence on AD is insane

[open prairie]

like all you give up for that

is minor armor increase during immo aura

[covert blaze]

when I pull the pack in the fire stairway into like 3 skycreamers

[spiral oasis]

If I played these classes I would be unstoppable

[covert blaze]

it's free

it's even in the first row

you don't lose any dps yeah

[open prairie]

ig you lose 10% soul healing taking 30sec cdr on it too

which is fuckall

[covert blaze]

you shouldn't even need the cdr i don't think

[spiral oasis]

born to zug forced to green melee

[covert blaze]

but i don't do high keys so im not sure

[open prairie]

its pretty niche yet

[covert blaze]

the great thing about fear sigil

[open prairie]

then theres warrior you legit lose dps

for stormbolt and shockwave

[covert blaze]

is that it's not on stun dr cause it's a fear

[open prairie]

[spiral oasis]

I wish I could pick shockwave on arms

[covert blaze]

so it might not break completely instantly sometimes

very minor tho

[open prairie]

yeah fear is weird like that

its less likely to break to dots

[covert blaze]

when a priest fears a mob and no one hits it

and it runs to africa

[open prairie]

lmfao

my guildie links me a havoc losing to a vdh on a pull

and they did like 30m so it wasnt a short pull

[covert blaze]

bro i do that all the time

it's insane

how bad these fotm rerollers are

[burnt stone]

I got the second legendary weapon.
It takes a lot of gold to make it.

[spiral oasis]

what

[open prairie]

its like not even hard to do havoc aoe

[covert blaze]

bad havocs consume inertia instantly

and don't have the buff up for when ragefire actually explodes

[open prairie]

you’re supposed to have it for intiaitive

[open prairie]

isnt that like first 3 crits

it goes off

[covert blaze]

no

it's at the end of immo

not even you know it

[open prairie]

i dont get gapped by tanks

[covert blaze]

the amount of damage

[open prairie]

[covert blaze]

that dhs lose

cause they can't read

is INSANE

[rotund ginkgo]

@modest condor

timed

we literally reset the mage boss on 30% hp and still timed

the runw as so smooth

[open prairie]

most dont even realize how much damage felrush does

[covert blaze]

muffin is a gamer

[open prairie]

[rotund ginkgo]

yh they my bois

we ran a bunch lately

[clever path]

leggo now works

on fdk

[rotund ginkgo]

@modest condor on 28

[open prairie]

@covert blaze tbh i usually have another rolling anyway

[umbral galleon]

should i use elemental chaos or versa phial

[open prairie]

so i prob do it unintentionally

[clever path]

vers or crit

[open prairie]

i dont play my dh much though

still 700 aspects off cap…

[clever path]

crit if u are safe and dont care about damage taken

vers if u need it

[open prairie]

i havent heard elemental chaos flask

since s1

[clever path]

same

had to look it up

[covert blaze]

i dm'd you something

[covert blaze]

do you look for when immos are expiring

so you don't fel rush

and hit air with ragefire?

[sour badger]

Excuse me… I’ve tried to understand how to queue for these time walking dungeons but there is not written it

Can someone explain to me how to do it😅

[modest condor]

grats

[open prairie]

generally yeah

or just stay in range of mobs still after felrushing

[umbral galleon]

how does the raidbots string use iced phial of corrupting?

why

[open prairie]

its a timewalking raid

theres an npc that lets you queue your group up for it

[umbral galleon]

@edgy widget

[open prairie]

also has a quest that gives a random piece from the raid scaled to hero track

and a mount/pet

from same chest

[young swan]

what do u mean

[sour badger]

The guy above suggested me to do it to lvl up from 60 to 70 saying it will be faster

[young swan]

u can set the uptime to x%

if thats what ur wondering

[open prairie]

oh timewalking dungeons are just on the dungeon tab

[sour badger]

Can I do it as “solo queue” because I don’t have a group

[young swan]

the "i" key opens the dungeon tab

[sour badger]

Oh so it’s basically the same as normal dungeons? I haven’t seen it there before

Will re-check it

[young swan]

yeah pretty much

[sour badger]

Sorry for stupid question😅

[young swan]

theres like a drop down menu that lets u select timewalking or reg dungeons

[open prairie]

its generally more xp than regular dungeons

also fun fact old borrowed powers is really good there

i.e azerite lego cloaks

[sour badger]

What is it

[young swan]

u wont have any of it

[sour badger]

Ah, something I don’t have

😅

[young swan]

dont worry about it

[open prairie]

if you’re new you wont have

[sour badger]

My third day in wow

[open prairie]

i just goof around and play 3x chsb traits along the base talent we have now

[umbral galleon]

what uptime does phial of corrupting has on average on smolderon mythic?

[open prairie]

its kinda funny

[young swan]

check logs with it up

[flat sapphire]

Augury pumping

[umbral galleon]

am i dumb

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cCgP6jBKpx7q31bQ#fight=36&type=auras&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24374000^0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24374000^0%24Separate%24%23a04D8A%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24374000&source=6

why does it show 100% uptime

[clever path]

corrupting rage

is the one you are looking for

80.80%

[umbral galleon]

so i ditch the versa phial?

[clever path]

you could if u want

i personally run vers during prog

[warm crag]

stick to tepid vers on prog

[clever path]

makes it smoother

less damage taken

[umbral galleon]

seems reasonable

duly notd

noted

[clever path]

especially since on prog u are way more likely to make mistakes

also

use potion of withering dreams

the one that full heals and then ticks down

insta gets rid of the absorb shield in case ur healers dont heal good

[umbral galleon]

is it common knowledge?

we were doing this

[clever path]

i hope it is

[umbral galleon]

then a higher prog than us guild started shitting on us cuz of it

thank god i was not crazy

[open prairie]

i mean for that specific purpose its better

i still think dreamwalker is better for most fights

[young swan]

withering is better for saving ur cheeks when u fuck up/clearing healing debuff

dreamwalker better basically every other time

[warm crag]

ye withering is probably the play for tindral/fyrakk

[clever path]

i always play withering as fury

[warm crag]

i dont think smold can oneshot you in a way where withering is necessarily better than the regular healing

[clever path]

healing absorb if healers cant heal

u can iv and hope u get like 200k healing

or u can use pot insta break it

[warm crag]

and leave an unnecessary fire circle thing

[clever path]

W it’s that overwhelming amounts of utility I try to practice , which I realized I never used that much - makes me feel that paladin may not be for me due to the fact that it’s hard to figure out for me . Like all sorts of situations happen , and the best I can do is CR Someone, even though I think i have the means to prevent someone from dying , but don’t know how xd

shield of veng sac the tank

giga explosion

Fuck that. Warrior has low amount of utility, but it’s meaningful and I’m happy for that

[open prairie]

i mean ngl all the good rets i know that realize how to use utility

either played ret for 6+ years

or mained hpal at one point

[covert blaze]

if you see a ret sac someone

or use wog

make a wish

[clever path]

i see it every key

[covert blaze]

cause they are rare like a shooting star

[clever path]

[covert blaze]

surely rets sac on cd

[clever path]

(i play with a friend)

I haven’t used it once

who has mained it since legion

And then it hit me that the class may not be for me

[covert blaze]

surely rets know to freedom/bop mechanics from other players

[clever path]

Nope, zero

[open prairie]

one of my ret friends

would just sac to have his sov go off

on cd

[clever path]

i mean

if u know nothing is gonna hurt

you can do it

sac the tank and just sov

[open prairie]

well yeah sov is a dps cd

if nothing happens

[clever path]

on top of 15 other defensives ret has

Well see , I tried that, and I died every time

Like , I did bubble once and did sac

that worked

u open in raid with sov sac

But not like vdh was in any danger lol

on bosses

[covert blaze]

[clever path]

Man

Fuck that

Too complicated

I’d rather throw rally , shockwave or whatever

I mean sure, ret is dumb fun with divine storm aoe forever , but if speaking purely inability to provide meaningful support of sorts, really makes me think not utilising class to the maximum , and that makes me feel totally useless and even worse - a total noob

[hardy cargo]

Play it if you enjoy the class, then start to incorporate the utility once you are more comfortable on it

This kinda goes for anything

Surely when you first picked up warrior (assumption since you are in this discord) you weren’t throwing out the best rallies or spell reflecting when there’s no kick etc

Or storm bolt

You played bc fun

[open prairie]

lets be real if reflect didnt count for your damage

[clever path]

Yeah to be honest before I came here I was mid warrior at best , if not worse

[open prairie]

alot less warriors would care to reflect things

[hardy cargo]

That’s true

[clever path]

Oh speaking reflect

[hardy cargo]

Kinda why I added the “or storm bolt” at the end

[clever path]

How tfq do I reflect blood infusion on AD?

[hardy cargo]

I realized my mistake after lol

[covert blaze]

realest thing i've read on this channel in a long time

[open prairie]

crushing depths?

less healing req? nah

free dam

[covert blaze]

I only reflect wracking pain to help the healer

[clever path]

What about priest boss , the channel she cooks , I saw people reflect that

Millions of free damage

[open prairie]

oh yazma refuses to cast wracking pain on me

when im on warrior

picks me on cd on any other class

[hardy cargo]

The clip came from biz and last I heard in his spell reflect video, he cannot figure out how to replicate it

[hardy cargo]

[covert blaze]

@clever path play ret if you like it, you might feel overwhelm trying to use all the utility as a new ret

slowly learn it if you like the spec

[open prairie]

some reflects you have to trust your tank is good

else you taunt and get meleed

[clever path]

As I understood, on that priest boss, she targets someone first and then casts the shit

So it is taunt right ?

Thant her, get the first one reflect and gg free dam

[hardy cargo]

You still talking about blood infusion? No on the boss you can deflect the first tick if you don’t have your blood

Deflect being no dam done but no dam taken

He reflected on the priestesses that are in the packs around yazma

Errrr

Alunza

[clever path]

Oh

I see

Thanks for clarification guys

[hardy cargo]

Yeah he’s got no idea how to replicate it so we wait until someone finds it or we just never do it 🙂

[clever path]

its time to go level my ret real

and get the leggo on it before on my warrior

[dire vigil]

Every Ret I’ve run keys with over the past 3 weeks has the axe

Consistent 7-10% dps gain

😭

Never had so much fomo in a game in my life

[edgy widget]

corrupting rage is default phial because it's generally strongest after the 10.2 changes improved its uptime

[open prairie]

i see more rets than s3 launch dh

[dire vigil]

Yeah i see as many rets as like every other class combined in Valdrakken lol

I hope now that HOF is closed they just juice the leggo drop rate and we can stop this RNG nonsense

I just want to play my shitty undertuned class with my cool transmog weapon and hope blizzard learns from the last 2 leggos and just makes it a quest line without these stupid carrot tokens in the future. Beating a dead horse I know, but it’s very annoying.

[open prairie]

i dont see that many rogues despite all the complaints about why hasnt the class been nerfed

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[open prairie]

outlaw dodging nerf since it doesnt casually do a 500-600k opener no aug

[dire vigil]

Ret does seem insanely good now, and I feel like havoc has lost a little of its luster. I think the plate transmog aesthetic and being able to get the leggo has a lot to do with it

I’ve literally never played Ret though so I really can’t speak to it other than it absolutely slaps in AOE

[open prairie]

wdym leather mogs look great

also havoc is still really good tbh

[young swan]

ret is a fucking disgusting spec now

absolutely disgusting

[unreal onyx]

we need

[dire vigil]

Yeah I enjoy playing my havoc. 5 ilvl under my warrior and pretty much the same DPS

[unreal onyx]

but with a ret symbol

[open prairie]

also you can mog warglaives of azzinoth

or mage tower glaives

on dh

[dire vigil]

Don’t have either :/

[open prairie]

i always say dripcheck good measure of dhs

[frank dawn]

Ret is hella dumb

Buff warriors

[dire vigil]

I’m pretty new to the game, I just started playing DH at the beginning of DF. I didn’t even play a warrior until S4 shadowlands. When I was a kid I had a hunter, that was it

So I don’t have a lot of the transmogs

[open prairie]

we still do more st than rets sometimes

because most rets take zdps st talents

[clever belfry]

We hate pink men

[dire vigil]

Yeah I typically don’t lose to ret on boss fights unless you know, leggo does insane damage and I don’t have it to compete

… 🫠

[frank dawn]

Yeah fury boss damage is still really good compared to Ret for the most part, but…

[open prairie]

idk whats with most rets i see doing like

110k boss dps

at 480+

[dire vigil]

It’s because they have to spec all into AOE or ST moreso than us

We just take out execute talents for cleave talents

[open prairie]

from what i heard its because most of them dont realize you can move a few points

to gain more st

[dire vigil]

Skill issue….

👀

[frank dawn]

They can def lose like 2-3% aoe for 5-7% single target in their m+ setup but most don’t

[open prairie]

average player prob hits import m+ talents

on the wowhead guide page

and call it a day

[dire vigil]

They 100% should too. Boss damage is more important that aoe burst on shitter mobs

[frank dawn]

But their pure st build is still 15-20% ahead of most m+ setups for boss dam

[dire vigil]

Especially when you deplete keys largely because of boss wipes this season

[open prairie]

yeah fury kinda has it good on swapping st and aoe talents

ig you swap spear for roar too but ehh….

[dire vigil]

I largely do this too and I watch critcake videos where he explains things to broaden my knowledge for some more particular use cases

[frank dawn]

It’s my favorite part about fury really. I’ve said it before, but how little we have to give up to cleave

Of course doesn’t matter when the spec isn’t that great at either but ya know…the thought is there

[young swan]

probably a very unpopular opinion

[open prairie]

yeah its like outlaw’s except outlaw is just tuned better

[dire vigil]

I think our ST is fine for the most part. I’m pretty competitive on the meters in raid and very strong in boss fights in m+

[young swan]

but i really dont like specs that lose almost no ST to go full aoe

[frank dawn]

Yeah I mean to go full aoe there should prob be more trade off. I actually feel like ret does that pretty well playing mine the last few weeks

[dire vigil]

Its very helpful to be in the middle in pugs, but being able to specialize a strong AOE or strong ST build in an organized push group seems very helpful

[frank dawn]

But fury would need a rework or something for talents to support that better

[open prairie]

i guess you could argue fury/outlaw are going cleave talents

not full blown aoe

[dire vigil]

Because then you can take ownership of blasting in large pulls or pulling extra weight on boss fights

[open prairie]

since target caps

[dire vigil]

Yeah

[frank dawn]

True

[dire vigil]

Critcake talks about how he uses signet brand because he’s relied upon for ST in his comp. Makes a lot of sense.

[lunar cape]

he also talks about how if feels bad to lose to a tank in aoe dps

[frank dawn]

lol

The huge pulls at those higher levels really fucks fury

[dire vigil]

Do you play on bleeding hollow?

[open prairie]

yeah 2 specs that dont do great uncapped aoe

[lunar cape]

i do

[open prairie]

altho idr if arms has good uncappped

[frank dawn]

Yo dawg doing 10% dps to targets past 5

[dire vigil]

Ok I figured that was you lol, so do I

[lunar cape]

??

someone know me wtf

[open prairie]

except rogue if you doing gigapulls you can spec sub

[dire vigil]

I saw your toon but it was spelled differently than in here, but I’m like “yeah 3300 io warrior, and is active in warrior disc, probably the same person”

You’re #2 in the realm behind Holycow or wtvr his name is. I’m knocking on the door of top 10. I didn’t push for a couple weeks so I gotta get back to it.

[lunar cape]

yea fuck that guy. transfered to the realm to take #1 only reason!

[dire vigil]

Lmaoooo

You two are so far ahead of everyone else

This is my first time trying to get towards the top. A year ago I could barely get KSM but I got an actual gaming PC a couple months ago and I can actually see spells now and use addons and man has it helped lol

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[covert blaze]

which color class are you playing in s4

(if playing s4)

[umbral galleon]

so for prog i should still go versa?

[warm crag]

yes

none of the bosses are throughput checks and you'll be progressing at a better pace if you survive more

[paper ivy]

can a officer from my guild invite my alts from another realm to our guid?

[warm crag]

has to be same realm for now

[dapper goblet]

between brown/mint green/blue

not sure yet

[warm crag]

be a main character or don't

hard choice

[young swan]

stick blue not magic missile blue

dont think xeos has played a caster since CoS

[covert blaze]

bro wtf even is mint blue

[dapper goblet]

correct

[young swan]

mint green is monk

[covert blaze]

that was my first guess but the more i thought about it the more confused i got

[dapper goblet]

gotta play the classes that get fucked the least by not having a windfury

[edgy widget]

Depends on whether you want dam or surv

[burnt stone]

If there is no WFT, I will leave.

[dapper goblet]

-10k dps if no stick for fury

not enjoyable

[paper ivy]

what statts should u go if u want to deal the most damage in ST and Aoe

[edgy widget]

The highest ilevel

[paper ivy]

im going with the overall best gear u suggested, does that deal the most damage

[daring sentinel]

@edgy widget time for another black tea shot 👀

[paper ivy]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear this is the best overall on wow

and raidbots tell me to go more crit

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iNuWL8naytpCnUwsmU2vo5

[young swan]

its aoe

ofc its gonna tell you to go for more crit

more dice to roll on whether or not an attack critically strikes

[slim coral]

3 plate alts no stick

So fun

[paper ivy]

so if u are doing m+ mostly, ud go for crit

[young swan]

if you are doing mostly m+ you would want more crit than you would reasonably expect for raid content

you arent "going" for any particular stat

[dapper goblet]

strongest voodoo upon you

[paper ivy]

ok thanks

[sinful spoke]

Fotm rerollers

Dont k ow how to play th class

My ret pumps so fucking much at 458

[open prairie]

male human/belf ret pov

[rotund ginkgo]

the way to replicate it is to just reflect when priestess transfusions on u and ur on tainted blood

i did it too but again pointless

today was productive

secured some 28s

a 29

poggies

[prisma sleet]

what embellishment to use for ring? sim says blue silk lining is better than the flavor packet

[past pivot]

packet is QOL, use it

embellishments should be SF and allied wrists or Sf x 2

[prisma sleet]

hmm i see

thanks!

packet is 50k on my server 😮

[past pivot]

Worth it in food and time saved

Liek the augment rune wyou can buy with rep

[dire vigil]

Maybe a swing a miss, but I'm willing to bet there are many out there who are gonna feel the same damn way.

Respectful but blunt

[sullen dove]

🗣️ say it louder for the people in the back

[dire vigil]

I think bringing up the MDI is relevant and I'm 100% exploiting it as a reason to fix this stupid drop system

[olive wraith]

That’s a lot of words tldr

[dire vigil]

It is, but it's relevant and all needed to be said, imo

Give it a read. I think you'll agree with my thoughts

[sullen dove]

afaik MDI is also just fully on tournament realms

where theres just a vendor where you buy the best items in the game

so like, leggo acquisition isnt an issue there

[dire vigil]

oh fk I thought you just transfer your character over lmao

[sullen dove]

unless thats specifically tgp idk i did one of those weird things in shadowlands for gits and shiggles

i mean you do, but you also just get access to all the gear

like i got 311 everything i could s4 shadowlands

[dire vigil]

well, even still, push keys in the main game apply, as does parsing, etc

[sullen dove]

yea

[past pivot]

MDI is its own server. Like PTR. You copy your toon and can build gear but can't copy it back so rules don't apply between the two.

[dire vigil]

Alright, i edited that part out lol

[dapper goblet]

can i get a tldr

[dire vigil]

middle finger

lol

Someone had to advocate for all the stuff that we only complain about amongst ourselves, don't make fun of the fact that it required a lengthy "essay" lol

[tardy lark]

Nothing is gonna change about it anyway. Xpac is on life support and s4 on its way

[dire vigil]

Good, then just release the axe so I can at least have something fun to do lol

[tardy lark]

Either way we are 0\1 on the forum posts doing anything xD

Even with blizz contact giving us some resemblance of scope to stay within nothing happened ^^

[dire vigil]

What scope?

Idk what you mean by that

[tardy lark]

The scope of changes possible within a ptr cycle

[dire vigil]

oh

well what I want is this: I want to log in on tuesday evening after work. I want to queue up for my weekly kill on HC Fyrakk because my guild decided to quit raiding for the tier. I want to kill Fyrakk, get the drop, and begin my questline so I can do my 8% more dps in my keys and have the cool axe mog

That'll be my 10th HC kill, so maybe that's the lucky number, nice and even

[past pivot]

You want it handed to you on a platter?

[sullen dove]

yes

just like it was for you

[dire vigil]

I want my "deterministic efforts" to actually go towards a positive result lol

[sullen dove]

this argument of "it shouldnt be handed out to everyone" is just dumb

10-12-16 weeks into the tier

it should be guaranteed

period

if youve killed heroic fyrakk every week since week 1

[dire vigil]

wtf is the point of "deterministic effort" if someone gets it when we've moved on to the next expansion lmao

[sullen dove]

esp considering how many people still full clear all of heroic every week

and also a decent amount of mythic embers too

until it drops they're fuckin pointless

not even a real system

[tardy lark]

9/9 mythic and in the only guy in guild, including alts, that lacks the axe

[sullen dove]

you dont deserve it handed to you

[past pivot]

And then Augury should be guaranteed. And top of the line Might. And Gorehowl offhand. And so on.

[tardy lark]

I’m told to “loot like you care”

[sullen dove]

[dire vigil]

see, no, because none of those items are a flat 8-10% damage increase

[sullen dove]

no one cares about gorehowl offhand

any weapon can fill that slot

[dire vigil]

not the same scope of impact

[sullen dove]

and augury might being the best trinkets sure they are, but there are close runner ups

there is no replacement for not having the legendary

[covert blaze]

I do 🙂

[sullen dove]

you are just doing 5% less

and even farther behind on aoe

point blank

[muted star]

is MDI relevant, cant they just buy the leggo on tourney realm?

[dire vigil]

A leggo over the replacement is not the same concept as optimizing your trinkets or having a 489 vs farmable 483 lol

[sullen dove]

yea i believe they can

[tardy lark]

Yes they can

[sullen dove]

but he didnt know that at the time its w/e

[dire vigil]

i edited

ill screenshot the new post

just for ref

[tardy lark]

But you ain’t playing any of the shitter strength specs

[muted star]

ah right, just catching up.. cant believe I read all that. haha

[past pivot]

The only things blizz has fucked up is giving people the expectation that everyone would have it by week 2. INstead of saying, if you kill Fry every week, you should have it by week x. And then they made it worse with the stupid embers

[sullen dove]

[sullen dove]

holy yoda is dripped out

[dire vigil]

I mostly agree with this but I didn't have an expectation for an easy time commitment. I did however expect to have it before most people completely lost interest in the season lol

[tardy lark]

And then there’s nothing yoda about the caption

0/10

[muted star]

yeah calling it BLP instead of a slight increase to a still rare drop makes people frame it as "its just bad luck that I didnt get it" rather than "I am extremely lucky to have gotten it"

[dire vigil]

which is a community problem moreso than a WOW problem but still, outcomes are outcomes.

[sullen dove]

[sullen dove]

as the weeks go on though its far less of that and more leaning towards the being worse luck for not getting it

[covert blaze]

check dms

[dire vigil]

I never expected to "have it first" but for someone clearing legit content every week, I shouldn't only get to use it for transmog, that's absurdity

[past pivot]

There's also a weird expectation that S4 is like starting next week after the recent voting debacle instead of April or May.

[sullen dove]

even tho the reddit stat or whatever says only 10-15% of people have it or whatever, you dont see the majority in this discord, its all people that have the leggo and post about it

and "guhuh i got leggo on my 3rd strength alt guys jaja"

[tardy lark]

Really looking forward to be eligible for the axe for 2 months and then getting to use it for 2 weeks

[dire vigil]

even 1 month of use instead of 4 months, still dumb. There should have been a realistic chance to have it by the .5 patch if you cleared heroic and mythic bosses every week

[fast osprey]

All I'll say on the leggo front is that after the evoker leggo last season, I decided what classes I was going to properly play based on which ones didn't get it

[sullen dove]

tbh the mention of hall of fame is about as rock solid of a reasoning as it gets to just open the flood gates

[fast osprey]

And I will do so in the future

[sullen dove]

this is just fuckin stupid at this point

[dire vigil]

the only people who should have to risk not having it until like week before s4 are the people who solely did LFR and superbloom lol

CE should be automatic, HC should be like a max of 8 Fyrakk kills (in-line with 10.2.5 launch), normal clear longer, LFR longer still

[past pivot]

I dabbled over to the evoker side for a change and had to deal with that legendary shit for so long that I'm bit numb to this go-around

[dire vigil]

Anyway, there has been so much discussion and angst about it. I decided to lay out thoughtful arguments, simply as someone who really enjoys the game and tbh, the grind, but some grinds are more sensible than others. Just is what it is

[past pivot]

I'd be ok with, if they just made it a purple and put it to the vault. But I had to deal with being stuck second in Shadowmourne queue as well. Now that was hell

[dire vigil]

don't even need to go that far, just make the embers personal loot and the problem of the shards is solved

[fast osprey]

Personally I think this kind of item acquisition belongs over a decade ago

[past pivot]

Embers were the most stupid fucking thing. BLP had to be given on kill anyway.

[dire vigil]

like the design mechanic for the embers "filling the progress bar" shouldnt be any different than now. Except the embers would be on a count obtained/# needed, and it followed the same quest system

And you could reliably get embers to fill the bar more quickly by killing bosses on higher difficulties. This solves the potential issue of a sudden over-saturation of power spike

[past pivot]

Introducing embers: Rng to increase the rng of getting an item you want but will be hard to get

[dire vigil]

exactly, this isnt a fun outcome and should not be possible for someone with CE

Stop with the stupid carrots and just let the best players optimize and maximize their performance by getting the unique drop. Yes, the argument could be made that the great vault is the same casino-like RNG system, but it is not a good comparison because anything you can get at 489 can be farmed at 483 permanently "deterministically" and no one is going to be made or broken by a 489 vs 483 might of the ocean.

[sullen dove]

🧎‍♂️

[dire vigil]

However, channeling Fyr'alath on Yazma for a shit ton of extra damage would be a great use case and could very well determine if you time a rank 1 key or not. I rest my case.

[past pivot]

rank 1 key? lol wtf is that?

[dire vigil]

Like the top io score key

[modest condor]

it's when nobody else has done the same or higher keylevel faster

[dire vigil]

EX: first 31 AD would be considered the "rank 1 AD key"

[muted star]

but youre not bringing a warrior to those..

[dire vigil]

Critcake!!!

[past pivot]

Tat's for the DK tank or ret

[sullen dove]

warrior in 2 rank 1 regional keys

[dire vigil]

Why does this jedi WOW player not have the axe but some mfer who did LFR one time have it?

[sullen dove]

bet he enjoys having leggo for those

[covert blaze]

i've heard the critcake viewbots

@mossy fox is this true

[sullen dove]

he would never do the 🤖

[covert blaze]

(no toxic)

[dire vigil]

the most extreme example of my argument that I wrote about in the forums would be the most elite echelon of player not having the axe, doing world first keys, whereas someone's 441 DK alt has the leggo from one LFR kill.

[modest condor]

why the critcake start viewbotting? sorry for i have join here to ask, it was fine the way before he have 150 viewer in chat now, but the other 400 are not there. why did he started botting , no toxicity but just a simple question

[dire vigil]

Any acquisition system where that is even a possibility is a preposterous system

[covert blaze]

HAHA

[sullen dove]

why he do the view bot

[modest condor]

no toxicity

[dire vigil]

what is viewbotting?

Idk what that even is lol

[sullen dove]

make viewer number go up with robots

instead of real people watching

to push your stream above other peoples

[dire vigil]

I literally don't care about that lol. I just care about the legendary lmao

[sullen dove]

yea that was a side seperate meme

[covert blaze]

fake viewers basically, to boost visibility and the algorithm

[dire vigil]

oh ok

[covert blaze]

damn blud didn't know you were the main character of the discord

my bad G

[dire vigil]

lol ^

[sullen dove]

its not wrong that crit should have legendary, he's prolly one of the highest deserving of it, but everyone thats killed CE and doesnt have it yet absolutely should have it by now, and even the rest of us in semi-deep mythic prog would enjoy the handout too

dogshit system

[dire vigil]

wouldnt be considered a handout if they just slapped it on as the end reward for a "deterministic" questline.. oh theres that word again

[covert blaze]

everyone should have it by now

imo

blp should be way higher

[slim coral]

Mango man needs viewers for his mango farm

Gotta keep the farm running

[dire vigil]

the only RNG that should exist is sometimes you get more embers in my hypothetical quest for the leggo

that I described

[past pivot]

What if Blizz took your argument and applied to mythic CE raiders only? Good or bad then?

[dire vigil]

I'd rather have that then have 1200 io 457 alts with it

at least then they would be genuine about aa deterministic system

what they have now is a salt rim that they're promising is a sugar rim

should have said tahin rim, damn. Missed opp

[muted star]

wait its not guaranteed on a mythic kill?

[dire vigil]

nope

Crit has CE, got an ember

I think it's a solid group loot drop chance for mythic Fyrakk kill but not 100%

it was only 100% for region first kills

[covert blaze]

i think mythic kills in general should give very high blp

progging the last boss with no legendary is so fkn stupid

[muted star]

oh lol, i thought it dropped one of them and you just had to loot it to someone - maybe thats just the WF one

[dire vigil]

region first but yeah, i think so too

my main issue, to summarize, is that they are selling a bullshit argument that it is "deterministic". For what, that I get to use it as present content? Or that I can come back in a pug to kill fyrakk on mythic once 11.0 rolls around and I want the transmog. Of course I'll eventually get it. I'd "eventually" get taeschalach too lol

[muted star]

over a long enough timeline, everyone can win the lottery 😉

[dire vigil]

It is not purely deterministic if someone has the opportunity to snag it from a 2 minute LFR kill on their alt

[dire vigil]

yes, the probabilities would say so. Eventually you'd have over a 50% chance and the probabilities would be in your favor

[covert blaze]

i did lfr antorus on like 5 characters for a long time for taeshalach

for like a year i think

[dire vigil]

and for a transmog item, I'd say that's ok, though annoying. But if you're going to create an item that you can get "deterministically" there are several better ways to implement that than with a system that even remotely has the possibility to give the item to someone doing cupcake content vs harder content. A true deterministic design would be, as I stated, a quest. The quest would allow everyone to get the weapon eventually, but those who do harder content get it before those who don't

[upper juniper]

Anyone know of a forum post we can upvote to get eyes on how many people dislike the legendary/acquisition?

[dire vigil]

I made one like an hour ago

[upper juniper]

Omw

[dire vigil]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/deterministic-legendary-acquisition-system/1780512

[robust widget]

There have been countless Reddit threads so far with a lot of interaction aswell as forum posts, I'm sure they know how some people feel.

[astral path]

i finally got legendary gang

and it pumps

[dire vigil]

gz I bet it does

[compact knot]

gz, still am angry it hasnt dropped yet

[robust widget]

I wish the the BLP was a bit more "aggressive", as in it stacks up faster. Getting the Leggo when, i assume, most people are somewhat done with the Patch/Content they usually progrress doesnt feel good

[covert blaze]

[astral path]

if only i could get signet or aug 😦

still dont have either

[soft orbit]

i have the legendary and i aggre that that hoping for a drop to get is prolly one of the worst things they have for aquisition

[astral path]

i was gonna stop trying 2 weeks ago

[past pivot]

I'm just glad hall of fame is finally closing. 2 months of pugging fun before fated

[astral path]

its like the gambling meme

[robust widget]

I wonder, was there such "outcry" for the Evoker Leggo too? Since that one was basically worse in acquisition since BLP didnt even start from the beginning.

[compact knot]

evoker lego was only for evokers though

[past pivot]

10x worse for evoker

[robust widget]

1 Class vs. 3 Classes, 2 (later 3) speccs vs. 6 speccs

[soft orbit]

still a stupid system for aquisition

[compact knot]

oh yeah

evokers complained

there was just alot less of them

[fast osprey]

The acquisition was worse but it only affected one class and it mattered less than the axe does

[compact knot]

^

[past pivot]

BLP wasn't even added till midway thru the season for evokers. At least it was supposed to have been added retroactive

[robust widget]

Makes sense yeah

[compact knot]

it also wasnt even that insane of a lego

[soft orbit]

imagine you get the leggo around the end of the patch and they dont implement something next season to increase ilvl for evoker and axe leggo

[compact knot]

could have been a epic that was super rare off sark and people wouldnt have cared

[fast osprey]

They spent too long huffing aug thematics for the effect

[robust widget]

Well judging by some WoWHead articles i feel like some people might think its not even that good of a Leggo too 🙃

[soft orbit]

plus they had to buff/adjust the leggo to be more inline

[compact knot]

it falls in comparison to what gavel/shadowmourne were

but i still think its pretty good

[soft orbit]

tbf the legendary just because of the active is pretty shit way to do it

[robust widget]

Yup. Tested it earlier on Tournament Realm in the Time Trials keys, it sometimes did 10% of my damage 🥲

Overall

[compact knot]

thats alot xd

[dire vigil]

10% is insane. 250k vs 275k overall is a lot

[covert blaze]

i really don't like how its performance varies so much per spec

[dire vigil]

or if you're a warrior, 100k vs 110k

jk jk

[compact knot]

arms fucks hella in m+

atleast for me

[compact knot]

i mean warrior has it super easy for applying the dot

[covert blaze]

I don't like how it scales with stats

[compact knot]

especially in big pulls, dks dont have that

[covert blaze]

aka it's better for ret

[compact knot]

that too

[covert blaze]

than for everyone else

should be just higher damage that doesn't scale with your stats

it's dumb

[robust widget]

This makes me wonder how the acquisition of the Axe got to what we have now. They must've heard complaints about the Evoker leggo right, even if they were less, and their only(?) solution was to introduce smol embers and BLP from the start?

[sullen dove]

they do what they always do

hear complaints and say they're gonna change something to make it better

and then just lie

[robust widget]

🥲

[sullen dove]

honestly as shitty as it was that evoker blp didnt start until halfway thru the season

id honestly prefer that from the start for it to only come off last boss, cuz you feel like youre mandated to clear the entire raid on heroic

for 1 extra lesser a week

which is probably doing fuck all anyway

[dire vigil]

If everyone could at least upvote the post, it might help it be seen. Would appreciate it

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/deterministic-legendary-acquisition-system/1780512

[sullen dove]

but its making you do more work for essentially the same outcome

[dire vigil]

Gonna go walk the dogs, as always, great discussing with everyone, seeya

[covert blaze]

#promotion

[sullen dove]

[robust widget]

I'd bet most dont even bother nowadays anymore, they just go Fyrakk and be done with it

[sullen dove]

yea i mean i used to full clear before killing fyrakk on the minus 1000% chance lessers applied to the current week instead of next

but even if it did its prolly so fucking miniscule it doesnt even matter

so ive stopped bothering fullclearing the instant reset happens and just go to fyrakk if theres a group for it

then idk randomly clear the wing bosses some other time

just get my once a week will to live playing this garbage game out of the way right at the start

rip off the bandaid so to speak

[pearl cradle]

hi fellow fury warrior so im doing 238k overall damage on brh is this low? im 487 im just gauging myself if im doing bad

[robust widget]

Cant wait for Fated Embers and having to re-earn the higher S4 IlvL version, as in a lucky drop with Ember BLP

[sullen dove]

hard to tell considering what key level youre doing and that the last boss has a ton of damage amp that rly pads details

generally if youre close to/around your other group members youre doing good/well

[slim coral]

There’s so much missing context this would be impossible to answer

[pearl cradle]

its 20 brh

sorry lol

[sullen dove]

not always true its possible they're really bad, but if youre not the worst dps on the team you shouldnt like, be worried about it as much

[slim coral]

We’d have to see the pulls gears comp etc

[sullen dove]

until you get to like top of the line keys with meta dps that will just wallop you every time

[pearl cradle]

ret was 241 me 238 hunter was 231 we are all like 487 ish

[slim coral]

Too much shit yo analyze for a simple answer

[sullen dove]

yea i mean all within 10k of eachother you prolly did fine enough

[pearl cradle]

sorry guys i started this lol

[sullen dove]

if anything the other 2 shouldve "probably?" done a decent bit higher than you

[slim coral]

If you timed the key odds are damage is to be e

[sullen dove]

but i mean who knows how things go for their cds in a 20

[pearl cradle]

oh really is ret and hunter better than fury interms of raw damage??

[compact knot]

yes

[sullen dove]

generally yeah

[slim coral]

All classes are

[sullen dove]

[robust widget]

cries in warr

[pearl cradle]

i will tease my hunter friend then thanks

haha

[open prairie]

i think my 476 dh did almost 250

nice spec

[sullen dove]

again a lot of that dungeon's damage on details is also just hard padding on last boss

[slim coral]

Kiss him while you are at it

[sullen dove]

so if they flubbed a cooldown usage or something as he hides for 20 seconds

that can def ruin shit

[open prairie]

alot of bat pad

in brh

[sullen dove]

like i dont pop 90s until he comes back

cuz i dont think i have enough time to dmg him

but maybe i do

[slim coral]

Oh no mich is here

Gg

[sullen dove]

or its lust im thinking of perhaps

[robust widget]

You two are in love? 👀

[open prairie]

bats inflate overalls

[robust widget]

Dont be shy!

[open prairie]

hella in brh

[slim coral]

Michs lover is his pfp

[open prairie]

also how your tank pulls influences overall so much in keys

[covert blaze]

pretty sure that's on the low end

[clever belfry]

balls inflate overalls too

[cold cape]

Why is it so hard to parse on ST fights as fury?

[amber arch]

Wait does no one play overwhelming rage or sidearm in keys?

[fallen pivot]

Is aggro weird for anyone else in dungeons?

[amber arch]

No just don’t hit OF before everything is grouped

[fallen pivot]

Im charging

getting aggro on the whole pack

nelf racial for 3 seconds

come out and then still have aggro on 3 mobs

[amber arch]

Does tank know what they are doing? Or much lower ilvl than you?

[dapper rampart]

is bloodcraze bugged in game or is details not right? The tooltip states it affects bloodthirst but when i look in auras it says the tooltip for slaughtering strikes.

[covert blaze]

bro?

[cosmic adder]

this mf out here playing the REAL fury

[sinful spoke]

the amount of WW's is insane there

is this an aoe fight

[final birch]

gcd hates him

[cosmic adder]

its a (bugged?) gnarlroot log

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z4wHPpYnNTt3myDv#fight=1&type=casts&source=3&view=timeline

[sinful spoke]

ah

30s kill

[cosmic adder]

they brought the chainsaws to the tree fight

[dapper rampart]

also, why does my bloodbath sometimes go off by itself?

[sinful spoke]

interesting

[cosmic adder]

seizure gaming

[sinful spoke]

how come they casted 3000 spells in 20 secs

[summer quail]

prob an edited file

[fallen pivot]

might of the ocean doesn't exist

[sinful spoke]

Yeah it does

I have jt

[frosty patrol]

i just vendered a hero track one

[sullen basin]

I also have might

[sullen dove]

check replay lmao

casters casting .1 sec spells

boss too

somehow just the like, actual fight time was compressed a ton it seems

[cosmic adder]

finally giga bloodlust

[sullen dove]

legendary warrior lust

in the war within

slayer tree saves the class

[clever path]

amen

wouldnt be surprised if eternal war between paladin and warrior continues and will be even more amplified

[thorny sparrow]

Give warriors lust for mythic plus viability

It's class fantasy that warriors are berserkers

[clever path]

Will warrior be giga broken in meme patch even though we are going to have season 2 tier set bonus ?

[sullen dove]

itll prolly be pretty damn good at aoe

but st prolly still gonna suck

[clever path]

Praying for st buffs then 🤲

[sullen dove]

doubt cant rly buff st without buffing whirlwind cleave so then they'd prolly have to nerf that in tandem and thats too many things for them to do all at once

[clever path]

Someone once mentioned on ret discord that warrior is going to be broken and reasoning for that was Ashkandur and legendary combo.

Why would that be a reason for us to be broken, or is it just ret talk ?

[sullen dove]

idk i mean it'd be cool

ashkandurs nice and all but i dont think its proc effect is like gamebreaking

most bosses its like 2-3% i feel like

its just us getting to use 2 special weapons when everyone else is just locked to the one

[vocal fog]

whats the best chance to get leggo axe , do heroic first ?

[oblique trail]

Doing LFR -> Norm -> HC is the same as doing HC First

[slate geyser]

HC only has a higher Chance mathemathicly

[oblique trail]

Probably

Never cared enough to think about it more than just do HC first because it's what Blizzard said

[slate geyser]

A 30% Chance is better than three 10% chances (numbers are just made up here)

[red berry]

ive been running all 3 in order

if you do LFR and normal first , you get two more greater tokens guaranteed

[oblique trail]

No one really knows how those work, but presumably they just work for the next reset of that same difficulty

[red berry]

which we don’t know what that does anyway

yeah

[slate geyser]

Nobody knows how much they increase or If the even increase for the Same week. So u cannot know if that makes up for the worse Chance when doing them like that

[red berry]

hard to say

[oblique trail]

Considering people have gotten the emebr and lego at once

It's fair to assume it just does all the rolls at once

[red berry]

i like the gambling odds

and I’d rather roll a dice three times

then once

[summer quail]

you still roll it 3 times when you do hc only

[red berry]

seeing as it’s been 3 months and only 10% have gotten it it’s statistically insignificant

[slate geyser]

But one 30% roll is better than three 10% rolls

[red berry]

it combines them together into one chance

id still take more chances

[slate geyser]

The Guy on the Top asked for the best Chances and thats only doing your highest difficulty

[oblique trail]

Idk it doesn't really matter

do what you want

[slate geyser]

It matters, doing them in order lowers Ur Chances

For the 30% example it lowers it to 27.1%

[oblique trail]

It doesn't matter because no one knows what the chances are for each difficulty, and there have been multiple people getting both an ember and the lego, which would mean that it does the rolls all at once from HC and below

And not a combined roll

[slate geyser]

This still applies for any combined Chance

[oblique trail]

But I'm telling you it's like rolling 3 dice, just all at once

And the 3 dice have varying chances to land on what you want

Regardless of throwing them individually, or all at once

It'd be the same chance for them individually

Which is why it doesn't matter if you run LFR -> Norm -> HC or just HC first

[slate geyser]

Getting ember and leggo can also Just be a bug

[oblique trail]

Or it can just be how it works

No one knows for sure

Do it in an ascending order of difficulty, or the highest you can first, doesn't really matter and do what you have time for/want to do

[slate geyser]

But If we Go that way U can say its 50/50 every week. You either get it or you don't

[oblique trail]

That's exactly how it is

You either get it or you don't

When you don't know the % you can't make an educated guess, and it doesn't even matter if you can or not

Kill boss -> loot it
Kill boss -> don't loot it and go again next reset

[slate geyser]

The actuall number stll does not matter in my example but i See i am running against a Wall here

[oblique trail]

I get what you're trying to say

And I'm saying there are examples that show it doesn't work like a combined roll

[sour badger]

Hello guys reaching lvl 60 was an exciting journey. And I’ve just reached dragon islands to explore even more of this big and beautiful world… so I can look forward to reach 70… but the world I saw was empty… barely any player. Only in storm wind and casually near some dungeons… if there is someone who plays a long time. Can you share your experience? How it felt in the past? Was the world everywhere that empty?

[slate geyser]

Which is a even wilder guess than saying it does because you base it Off a few ppl that get leggo and ember instead of the thousands that do not

[sour badger]

I’ve seen a lot of not good comments about state of wow now. But as a new player I enjoy each part of it. If someone could share their past, so I can see how it was Back there… and maybe I would have to say “what a sad truth… and even sadder I haven’t played it before… and just started now”

[oblique trail]

It's easier to base it off of results rather than speculation

At the end of the day people are thinking too much about it

[deft ridge]

Most ppl hangs out in Valdrakken whilst looking for a m+/raid group

In the emerald dream you will encounter more players in the open world, especially on reset days

However if you want a more “alive” world, I would recommend playing Season of discovery

[slate geyser]

This doesn't even makes Sense because its exactly what in wrote but nvm this will lead nowhere. As i said i running against a Wall here

[oblique trail]

You didn't show any results tho

[sour badger]

Oh I’ve read about it… the city in dragon islands

[sour badger]

What is this?

[deft ridge]

A version of classic wow

[fleet cargo]

classic is pain

and suffering

[still idol]

can i craft comething or nah ?

[oblique trail]

Neck otherwise not really

[summer quail]

can craft waist if you have a socket available

[merry jetty]

Have really only 10% gotten it?

[sterile remnant]

Usually at this point in the game players almost have no activity. Season is mostly done and almost nothing new will be added till next expansion. Overall in WoW players no longer need to participate in world activities.
You afk in a main hub que for dungeons or raids and thats it.

World out side of instances has nothing to offer after the first time you do it and you do it in like 1 week after each patch release

The bad comments you hear about wow is mostly due to the fact that in wow you no longer need other players to achive your goals, unlike the classic version where even for questing you need help

[fleet cargo]

there is a embellishment taking my attention atm
named Infurious Warboots of Impunity, basicly gives main stat when i use cc or interrupt i take shockwave so thats being another cc of mine besides storm bolt ahd i also use my interrupts always effectively

so i replaced with my 1x shadowflame with it

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t2NugAJkNo3gnFXX2G2t1Z

-2,5k

it has 30 sec cooldown

do raidbot calculates that too ?

it may be useful in m+ content imo

[clever path]

Dungeon slice and 3 minutes

Why ?

[fleet cargo]

but can only try 2 weeks later

ahhh

wait

omg

[fleet cargo]

i was simming for my friend yesterday

[clever path]

Yeah no problem mate, was wondering maybe you got some hidden jutsu for simming

[eternal sundial]

Works with charge btw

[fleet cargo]

so when i charge

it procs

[eternal sundial]

Nope

[fleet cargo]

??

[eternal sundial]

It's completely not implemented

[eternal sundial]

Since charge is CC in form of a root yes

[fleet cargo]

omg so true

i will definitely craft this one

but no spark now

[eternal sundial]

We played around with it last tier

But it's just not in simc

So you cant actually say if it's good or bad

[fleet cargo]

i think i can drop 1x shadowflame

if it was 2x i would consider not dropping it bu

but*

[eternal sundial]

You just cant say how good it is

Because it cant be simmed

[fleet cargo]

yeah

[twin glacier]

I mean why would u want to drop the Vers wirsts. They make you so much more tanky

[lapis eagle]

so getting leggo next week worth it ? when it's next season

[deft ridge]

getting your bis weapon is always worth it wdym

at least if you care about performance

[sour badger]

Oh… I see…

Really, what a sad truth

[twin glacier]

Probably till April atleast

Remember only hall of fame just finished.

They want top 1kek to get ce I would assume

[summer quail]

I think the season will end late march

[oblique trail]

Just 6 more attempts at the lego

8 rather

Surely I'll have it by then

[worldly shard]

damn time flies fast

[eternal sundial]

idk i think it wont end in march

[worldly shard]

we should have s4 in september

i mean ww expansion*

so exactly 5months if it starts late march

[eternal sundial]

fuck fated

[worldly shard]

im just doing this

3months and ill go from 15exalted reps to 80+

and doing my weekly fyrak

[clever path]

theres fuck all to do besides collecting things now for most people i assume

be it reps or otherwise

[worldly shard]

i just wanna get 100+ exalted reps / 500 mounts achievos

so i wouldnt be as overwhelmed

[worldly shard]

if reps become account wide that'll be a gamechanger

[clever path]

confirmed for tww

[willow nest]

Can fury warrior became immnue to the thornes in wm ?

[eternal sundial]

human racial

othwrise nah

[willow nest]

got it

[eternal sundial]

but you can ER in the thorns