just get back on Max stream to unfuck the class
#fury
dapper goblet
lot of unfucking
eternal sundial
gets us nuked again
dapper goblet
dont have many thoughts on how to unfuck fury other than i'd like execute to be a spender again
eternal sundial
end it all
covert blaze
🦼
eternal sundial
horrible fortune
indigo quarry
dapper goblet
we just need to ban xan from posting on the forums otherwise we'll get 17 paragraphs 20% slam buff again
thick fossil
Slam has been pretty much a shit button to touch since after Cataclysm. At least in Cata it had a cast time that wasn't interrupted by other abilities and hit like a fucking truck.
With no massive build up required.
Mind you it was only an Arms thing really at that point.
covert blaze
shouldnt even have slam rather
slam dn
dapper goblet
roger
covert blaze
unreal onyx
Slam has been pretty much a shit button to touch since after Cataclysm. At least...
cast time
warrior shouldn't have to cast any ability
just bonk
dapper goblet
cast time was bad
oddly enough the most fun i've had fun with slam was when classic first came out and you could abuse the swingtimer slam for big dam
then they fixed it
storm rune
we just need to ban xan from posting on the forums otherwise we'll get 17 paragr...
Actually tho, who writes an entire novella telling devs to buff slam? That was downright silly
eternal sundial
20%!!!
dapper goblet
well I meme about it because it was like 17 paragraphs and we only got a 20% slam buff a week or 2 after it was made
not that they were just advocating for slam buffs
supple musk
Hi guys, I need some help for my stats on my fury war I'm 485 ilvl, I don't have the leggo does that mean I need more crit ? I actually have 19% crit, 31% haste, 21% versa and 57% mastery
eternal sundial
supple musk
I can't sim all :x
lapis lion
Hi guys, I need some help for my stats on my fury war I'm 485 ilvl, I don't have...
you need to sim, full stop
storm rune
I mean they wrote 17 paragraphs and every second said "buff slam"
lapis lion
blizzard doesnt read forums
supple musk
you need to sim, full stop
Yes, I'm doing it since yesterday but it always gives me a different gear to use ...
That's why I'm lost xD
lapis lion
Yes, I'm doing it since yesterday but it always gives me a different gear to use...
well, it's quite literally logic and math so this isn't possible unless you're doing something wrong or you're looking at variances within the margin
link your sim
sour frigate
dungeon slice for warrior seems weird
supple musk
I have no idea how to use that shit that's why x)
supple musk
ok thx let me check
supple musk
sim patchwerk 5x5min
5 bosses 5 minutes?
sour frigate
yes
covert blaze
raidbots.com/topgear
Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it
sour frigate
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/apeVHLCojde8xdELbjpFAS
So equip what sims tell 
the pants will work even better in keys tho
supple musk
So equip what sims tell <:keks:936231610850897992>
Alright thx a lot !
I'm mostly playing in keys
sour frigate
ye
supple musk
Thx a lot mate now I can better sim :
sour frigate
its 5 min static fight in keys u will always reactivate it
past pivot
Thx a lot mate now I can better sim :
Why are you simming 5 targets for 5 minutes? You have Rezan's equipped for a m+ sim? WHy? You have double haste runes instead of hissing x 2? And are you simming with full buffs?
All of that is going to give you some borked results
supple musk
Why are you simming 5 targets for 5 minutes? You have Rezan's equipped for a m+ ...
We told me to, rezan is because I don't have augury I'm switching between rezan crab and signet, haste runes are better aren't they ?
past pivot
We told me to, rezan is because I don't have augury I'm switching between rezan ...
Rezan is an ST trinket. Crab would be better if equal ilvl. For runes, double mastery is the go-to, Especially for keys.
As far as sims, for M+, turn off buffs you won't see in a key. And try 5 targets for varying lengths. 40,60,90 seconds and compare.
No fight has 5 targets living for 5 minutes.
sour frigate
not everyone can get a trinket when they want dudito
past pivot
Or just run your normal top gear sim and swap out trinkets. Our dps profile is very close for ST and MT so you'd be doing just as well. Use Might and Crab for M+. Rezan and Signet for raid
supple musk
I'll re sim 5x5 but switching trinkets
For runes should I go for double mastery then ?
past pivot
Simming 5x5 is silly. Just do top gear if you're going to do that
eternal sundial
1 min sim
past pivot
@supple musk ^^ 5 targets, 1 minute. Just balls out burst.
sour frigate
1 min sim
past pivot
You can do differeing numbers if you want. But 5 minutes?
Just do dungeon slice or top gear at that point
sour frigate
dungeon slice works bad for warrior
monks and rogues sim like 100k higher there but in fact will be similar damage
supple musk
Now it tells me to use ouroboreal neck, and crab
past pivot
monks and rogues sim like 100k higher there but in fact will be similar damage
Archi says dungeon slice works fine for warrior.
supple musk
In my sim I should use unstanle frostfire belt, but in yours I shoud use the other one
past pivot
Only thing about DS is that it skews a little toward ST rather than all-out burst. Another reason why you might as well just use the top gear St sim and swap out trinkets between ST and MT
sour frigate
cuz its 1 m
past pivot
Are you turning all your buffs off? Seeing some of those quick sims with lots of buffs, wft, etc. Do you usually run with an enhance and those buffs?
supple musk
in 5 mins they say to change my belt and feets
supple musk
Are you turning all your buffs off? Seeing some of those quick sims with lots of...
I usually run with an enhance
But now idk what should I use xD between belt feet and legs
sour frigate
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s8ogzXEq5BqTVX8bGGPxLU
JEEZ NUTS
Lego enjoyer
Flexing on lowly monk
rare blaze
Are we allowed to post our logs here for advice since the logs channel is kinda inactive?
sour frigate
Collateral
clever path
based
sour frigate
collateral
eternal sundial
copers get whirlwinded into the ground
supple musk
. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/htsrrXv1p1zmhAKPSnHdhp
Alright I'll go for that sim, using those legs and highest sim I've got
clever path
copers get whirlwinded into the ground
sim jugg
supple musk
Thx for the help guys ❤️
past pivot
Are we allowed to post our logs here for advice since the logs channel is kinda ...
Try #449510248579858432 first
merry jetty
I see most using Allied Wristguard of Companionship over the Shadowflame embelishment, is it just better?
wary grove
I see most using Allied Wristguard of Companionship over the Shadowflame embelis...
They're very very similar
foggy urchin
unreal onyx
playing fury?
dapper goblet
talenting into tom?
sour frigate
talenting into tom?
more like changing weapon from 440 to 483
worldly shard
shit vault but hopefully ill get these 2
3 TW boxes + 9 attempts on annihilator past 3hrs
sullen dove
🧎♂️
calm mantle
Will cross server mythic open up this week once HOF is done or next week?
unreal onyx
usually when HoF is full
calm mantle
1 spot to go.
unreal onyx
but idk how they will handle it since hof isn't full for such a long time
well then propably next reset ig
calm mantle
Was hoping it'd open up this week, easier time findign a group finder group./
merry jetty
the wristguard is like 1.5% to all ur damage
Isnt shadowflame the same?
covert blaze
Hof is full
But you can get hof during the entire week anyway
Otherwise if you don't raid early in the week you get robbed for free
sour frigate
Isnt shadowflame the same?
yeah its 1-2% damage itself
calm mantle
But you can get hof during the entire week anyway
Ah so cross server will open up on reset?
fleet sorrel
sullen dove
covert blaze
Ah so cross server will open up on reset?
Yes
jolly wing
what settings should one use for simming for mythic plus aoe pulls
dapper goblet
Hall of shame
sullen dove
certified
warm crag
🧎♂️
hearty surge
🧎♀️
rose bay
Working on the legneday axe now, whats the dps loss if i just never use the active
unreal onyx
0 dps loss, just less gain
I think if you take a rough average on ST and aoe never using it, you are missing out on ~30% of it's potential dmg
but that's anecdotal from me
modest condor
was 1% before the recent changes, so probably somewhere around 2-2.5% now
rose bay
kk! just 2 many buttens + will 100% fatfinger it during smolderan and kill myself
red dirge
still need leggo
broken sinew
hi is the leegoo still usable in S4?
sinful spoke
we'll let u know in s4
warm crag
probably hof is full
weak ether
just looted this bad boi on my mage today
guess we wait until next xpac when it becomes account wide tmog
latent aurora
what would you all recommend I should aim for as far as Mastery %/Crit %/Haste %/Vers % ?
summer quail
they are confirmed no?
i mean only the private aura for the balls is confirmed being removed
tho i would expect more nerfs
clever path
tbf thats a decent nerf already
i expect more too
but not having to deal with annoying macros is nice
warm crag
i don't remember a recent final boss that wasn't hit by number nerfs after hof closed
dw about about it
modest condor
nothing is confirmed until we see it ingame or in a blue post
but yeah it's highly likely something will get nerfed
warm crag
hope they dont slaughter the boss like they slaughtered tindral
its a lot comfier to reclear tho
modest condor
tindral is still a stupidly hard boss to prog
clever path
ye i wouldnt be surprised if they nerfed him even more ngl
snow edge
Yeh it's very unforgiving from a prog perspective
snow edge
Yeppp
clever path
and the worst part is
hof guilds were perma wiping to him as well
although it was a different boss back then but still
warm crag
2s seeds
warm crag
Im not sad i didnt get to play that iteration lmao
8 beams doesnt matter at all tho
Like idk i felt like if u actually paid attention you just never died to that
clever path
surely u had nasty p3 overlaps
warm crag
Idk dont remember which iteration we got to p3 in
dapper goblet
Im not sad i didnt get to play that iteration lmao
freak
clever belfry
8 beams doesnt matter at all tho
Me when i dont care about where i stand (i didnt have to position for dispells)
slim coral
I feel like the solo responsibility of tindral was very easy ngl
But raid wide for some reason people can’t stop double soaking
upbeat sentinel
they are confirmed no?
Only confirmed so far is making the debuff auras public
so that addons can handle the mechanic instead of custom macros
clever path
ye but these are annoying
wa devs find a way around them and now u have to press a macro
slim coral
Yeah they just need to make ones that take coordination not private
They will never force 8 people to call out what they are doing just clutters comms
clever path
that level of coordination will never work
slim coral
Yeah well that’s what they think is gonna happen
upbeat sentinel
They will never force 8 people to call out what they are doing just clutters com...
hello star augur
Wasnt his originally private or am i misremembering
clever path
thats also true
clever path
i guess u could assign people before pull but
but that would be very inconsistent
pull to pull wise
upbeat sentinel
i guess u could assign people before pull but
I do wish more mechanics were like seeds and let you assign people beforehand
slim coral
Halondrus is just a better version of fyrakk ngl
clever path
its especially hard when fights like fatescribe
you could only do rings with the debuff
slim coral
Fyrakk feels like halondrus but with macros
upbeat sentinel
I find p much all fights with friendly NPCs annoying
upbeat sentinel
"you wiped because fire touched a night elf :)" feels like crap
slim coral
Not me
clever path
slim coral
I leaped
half cargo
Dafuq is shyvl
slim coral
I used leaper
half cargo
Sylv?
clever path
ye
slim coral
3 leaps ez
upbeat sentinel
so that was yikes
me, refusing to press dstance no matter what
slim coral
Idk how people died to balls on painsmith but they did
slim coral
I never downloaded that player tracker shit
I did intermission natty never died once
I also always clicked gate
clever path
upbeat sentinel
bring back suicide toy
floral frigate
That was a close one lol
slim coral
I timed a key yesterday with -.987
upbeat sentinel
That was a close one lol
lowest score in your group, get carried
upbeat sentinel
ur the one friend they carry as a charity now
dont worry, im that friend in my group too
floral frigate
arent most warriors 😉
wild mica
did i miss something
half cargo
Orange check
half cargo
clever path
prob an orange check
wild mica
i have orange tho
half cargo
Oh
clever path
play arms next time
wild mica
i dont like arms
slim coral
Arms is stronger in dos though
wild mica
blizz couldnt just let arms be dead for 1 season
clever path
it was dead in sl as well
in m+ at least
bonegrinder was okay
fury was just better
pre bonegrinder it was worse consistently
this season arms does more damage but is squishier
slim coral
Ok your boy is now the official warrior trial for Temerity
wild mica
i didnt know they were still around
slim coral
wild mica
is kira still in there
summer quail
what happened to the chinese guild baze?
slim coral
I left
summer quail
temerity is kalamazis guild right?
slim coral
Chinese players had to go back to China, we picked up American players their skills were bad
clever path
isnt azuna
slim coral
I told GM I am not satisfied with prog and left
summer quail
oh damn kalamazi not doing so good this tier
clever path
blud wasnt in on the kill
tardy lark
knowledge isnt = ability
modest condor
me
summer quail
knowledge isnt = ability
true, he did good last tier tho
tardy lark
meh it is kinda the same
slim coral
oh damn kalamazi not doing so good this tier
He took a break due to irl stuff
tardy lark
you have to look at 10.1 logs if you want a realistic picture
dapper goblet
Ok your boy is now the official warrior trial for Temerity
didnt you say you're 100% joining vodka
tardy lark
but not like it really matters
summer quail
He took a break due to irl stuff
ah
slim coral
didnt you say you're 100% joining vodka
Soon
My vodka friends list from m+ is going up
Also rip Jancob we lost him to echo
hard widget
Seems that fury was the play after all for Rise 23
loud locust
hey does anyone know why when i got the valajar tmog from the trading post its not showing up in my tmog?
young swan
its leather
tardy lark
who is jancob
slim coral
Can I be a leather
tardy lark
loud locust
dammit
fiery thorn
jacob but with an extra letter
young swan
no
slim coral
Idk
young swan
oh this tier
modest condor
Seems that fury was the play after all for Rise 23
did you get rank 1 tho?
hard widget
did you get rank 1 tho?
Im the highest ranked warrior in mdi if thats what u mean kekw
tardy lark
keeping the name alive i guess
modest condor
not what i ment but good job anyway
hard widget
U mean like parse wise?
modest condor
19 minute eb, just need to shave off 9 more minutes and you're good
hard widget
Oh we didnt start EB till today
slim coral
Im the highest ranked warrior in mdi if thats what u mean kekw
MDI kek
slim coral
Let’s be honest you ain’t beating echo
hard widget
Ofc not
slim coral
A for effort though
hard widget
Im playing arms yea
But we needed more st on Rise to 1 shield Tyr
So i ended up going fury for rise
hard widget
Ye
slim coral
Idk I did arms on a 27 it was fine
hard widget
Yeah but on 27 ur not trying to 1 phase the boss
hard widget
1 phasing the boss saves 40 sec almost
hard widget
Mdi is capped 23
slim coral
Oh
hard widget
Fastest times on both dungeons combined vs other teams
hard widget
Its basically who can do 23's the fastest
hard widget
Doesnt really matter
U just need to kill the demi bosses ASAP
Because those trigger the 30 sec rp for boss to finally get his shit together
hard widget
Boss doesnt spawn till all 3 demi bosses are dead
hard widget
slim coral
Yeah like that
hard widget
Thats what we do
tardy lark
Warrior and
slim coral
Interesting
hard widget
Meh our timer kinda sucked tbh
slim coral
I just meant the WW choice
hard widget
Oh yeah i mean we're just playing what we want
slim coral
Since it’s capped
hard widget
WW pumps in rise tho
slim coral
But yeah have fun for sure
Survival hunter would be cool to see
I’ve yet to see one this season
The are rare to find
tardy lark
Survival hunter would be cool to see
do i have a dungeon season for you
there was this tier in Shadowlands
slim coral
S4 so
hard widget
Oh no not shadowlands
tardy lark
My god that spec was fun
slim coral
It was lit
slim coral
Wildfire bombs go crazy
tardy lark
all the degen shit you'd do to game red bombs
hard widget
25 stacks?
tardy lark
huh
slim coral
Ye
hard widget
What u been smoking
tardy lark
he saw that one clip of the rdruid
slim coral
Or jdotb
tardy lark
healing like 18 stacks in EB
hard widget
Maybe with all defs hp pot cookie
slim coral
Ye
hard widget
And all stacks applied at same time
slim coral
23 yeah
amber arch
I levelled a pally today and just played it on ret
hard widget
I mean, dh netherwalked, they had darkness, wl got dispelled and they had lust
amber arch
this shit, is DISRESPECTFUL
slim coral
Yeah ret op
amber arch
12 YARD KICK? most of my rotation RANGED
summer quail
howd does mdi work? can you swap race between each key? so like if you know it's bursting can you go dwarf just for that one?
slim coral
And has attack range of mage
amber arch
20 YARD RANGED FINISHER?
slim coral
I mean, dh netherwalked, they had darkness, wl got dispelled and they had lust
That is true
tardy lark
howd does mdi work? can you swap race between each key? so like if you know it's...
you can make however specific characters you want
slim coral
Echo will prob do some wild hidden tech though
hard widget
howd does mdi work? can you swap race between each key? so like if you know it's...
Yup we all play dwarf in EB
slim coral
They always hide something
amber arch
add this shit to warriors right now. we dont need to be throwing swords around and shit but at least give us 3 yards of range
tardy lark
my god is MySlot addon a lifesaver on TR
hard widget
Not much in these dungeons u can have hidden tech for except for skipping rp but ye
slim coral
What about untested specs
tardy lark
thats kind of a "this tall to ride" thing though
slim coral
Yeah that’s my point though
tardy lark
if throughput isnt there, you arent gonna see shit for diversity outside of people playing their mains for the first round
slim coral
They can play anything most teams can’t
tardy lark
they cant magically make a class good lol
slim coral
they cant magically make a class good lol
Ok that’s not true we both know that lol
hard widget
And play all those classes each season to prep
slim coral
They can easily make a class look 100 times better
tardy lark
sure
slim coral
Than some random we see play it
hard widget
They can easily make a class look 100 times better
That doesnt mean other classes are just better
tardy lark
100 times better is still trash if its bottom of throughput
slim coral
That’s true too
tardy lark
just play something that does more lol
slim coral
But just as an example how many people do you think have a really good surv player
It’s just an example but they could pull that out and it be busted for all we know
hard widget
It’s just an example but they could pull that out and it be busted for all we kn...
I mean the sims say its not busted
slim coral
Maybe hidden interactions etc
hard widget
They dont get extra buttons by being good at the class
slim coral
No I know I’m just saying
They have the ability to test shit most people can’t is my point
slim coral
Never said they were lol
hard widget
And can play a lot of classes very well
slim coral
They’re just disgustingly good
tardy lark
cant magically add a 0 at the end of the damage of every ability
slim coral
No that’s true
But how many other teams out there can time a 30 rise pre nerf
You get my point
tardy lark
I really dont
hard widget
TIming a 30 rise pre nerf with the best gear in game and a team that played together for YEARS
Obviously they're gonna be good
Especially compared to ur pug group
slim coral
Ok my point is they have the ability to test non meta specs and fully test the capabilities of said spec. Other teams most of the time cannot
hard widget
Its a different game if you have a coordinated group that knows what to expect
tardy lark
Ok my point is they have the ability to test non meta specs and fully test the c...
as soon as TR opens, everyone who actually wants to get on it, can
hard widget
Ok my point is they have the ability to test non meta specs and fully test the c...
Everyone can get TR access
You just need to sign up
slim coral
Doesn’t mean they have the skill to just reroll though
tardy lark
with practice ofc
hard widget
YOu think if you tell gingi to reroll warrior like right now he's gonna do 100 logs?
slim coral
Lol no
hard widget
Ofc he'll need to prac and minmax
tardy lark
It helps being very good at other things first and it takes less time getting good at another similar thing
hard widget
^
covert blaze
YOu think if you tell gingi to reroll warrior like right now he's gonna do 100 l...
yes
slim coral
Well I’m hoping to see atleast one surv hunter
hard widget
Being good at communicating about stops, positioning and general strategy is worth more then playing ur spec 100% in dungeons
slim coral
I’ll be very disappointed if not
Isn’t it wildfire bombs rn
That’s what I was told never looked into it though
tardy lark
a lot of classes boil down to the duration of their CDs and their cooldown. Sub rogue can be played as a 1min spec with a gap at 3 mins or a 1.5 min spec with no gaps for example
as soon as you understand how that plays, you can take that knowledge to other classes if they work similarly
hard widget
Most classes have a certain opener
And then its 2-3 buttons on repeat
Till ur cd’s run out
slim coral
I think arms has potential it is pretty good
tardy lark
Give me 2-3 weeks of daily play on another class and i'll be mostly on the level of my warrior (please no ranged)
slim coral
Ok play ele
slim coral
You got 2 weeks
tardy lark
Boomie was so much fucking fun in Vault man
hard widget
Bro boomie might just be the easiest spec ive ever seen
tardy lark
I never wanted to play warrior on Council after playing it 1 week on boomie
hard widget
You legit just dot everything do 2 wraths and spam starfall and the other one
slim coral
I never wanted to play warrior on Council after playing it 1 week on boomie
Play arcane
tardy lark
slim coral
It’s fun
hard widget
Thats my point, every class has an opener of a few buttons then they spam the same shit over and over
tardy lark
Spriest was ok in Aberrus at least
buti just dont like casters
only lvled and geared cause of boosting 
slim coral
Yeah caster is boring
I’ve tried just no oomph like melee
Melee has a danger zone to it
Ranged is boring no mechs
tardy lark
idk
skill expression for ranged players mostly comes with optimizing movement to not lose dps
tardy lark
theres a reason "melee mechanics" is a term
because we often dont get a lot while ranged handles most of them
tardy lark
fight design kinda has to be that way when we lose 100% dps when not on boss and ranged doesnt
slim coral
It’s just not as fun
slim coral
fight design kinda has to be that way when we lose 100% dps when not on boss and...
Hmm idk I think SOTfO was 50/50
Like everyone had mechs
This tier is eh until last 2
tardy lark
you have ranged players handling ducks on council
last 2 bosses are giga payphone for melee
slim coral
Ok but that’s a meme fight
tardy lark
as well as smolderon
sour frigate
Smolderon actually cool
tardy lark
yeah its ok
slim coral
Idk the last melee unfriendly tier was CN I think
tardy lark
just quit using the giga scuffy intermission timers so people have to do weird shit to optimize cds
willow cradle
as well as smolderon
Ranged Smold Mechanics? you mean stacking properly lol?
tardy lark
Ranged Smold Mechanics? you mean stacking properly lol?
i mean doing your burst windows with heavy movement
i dont care about movement as melee (fuck spear)
slim coral
Whoever said spear is cool for this xpac is the worst
willow cradle
I mean that kinda goes for both ranged and Melee on Smold if you mean dps phase
cause
slim coral
I’d rather have the night fae ability
willow cradle
while its less invasive for us
Melee still have to prepare as to not fuck their uptime on cds with world in flames as well
tardy lark
Sure, but losing 2 globals is nothing compared to cancelling cast upon cast as ranged
slim coral
That kinda depends
slim coral
You can def have downtime as warlock
Outside cds
Warlock does nothing outside cds
dapper goblet
die spear die
willow cradle
2 globals is an exaggeration and you know it
tardy lark
if you lose more than 2 globals dodging out of a 2nd ring on smolderon, you have other issues
willow cradle
Regardless of globals, what I had originally said was in regards to missing cd uptime
Gotta preplan regardless of being ranged or melee
tardy lark
Ofc you pre plan. What I’m saying is that ranged has a harder time not losing damage during that phase than melee has
willow cradle
Ofc you pre plan. What I’m saying is that ranged has a harder time not losing da...
And where have I said that wasn't the case? I simply said It impacts both so claiming Mechanics don't affect melee on Smold is just straight up false.
dapper goblet
https://www.twitch.tv/?tt_medium=mobile_web_share&tt_content=clips_viewing
link doesnt take me to anything
slim coral
link doesnt take me to anything
One second I’ll fix it
tardy lark
And where have I said that wasn't the case? I simply said It impacts both so cla...
Literally no one said mechanics don’t impact melee
slim coral
link doesnt take me to anything
slim coral
https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350
It’s not my fault bro
I’m on mobile
And clips are fucked
pearl cradle
hi guys question the shalazar notes im horde can i use it on a alliance character?
young swan
what notes
pearl cradle
the thing that you use on them so that they can make em
young swan
oh for the lego
pearl cradle
oh i can just crafting order it to someone that already knows it i guess?
young swan
yeah u can
pearl cradle
lol thanks im just overthinking it then lol
willow cradle
Literally no one said mechanics don’t impact melee
It was implied when you equated Smold to Duck duty on Council as an example of a mechanics that only ranged "Handled", it's obviously a mechanic both have to deal with.
tardy lark
It was implied when you equated Smold to Duck duty on Council as an example of a...
2 ranged players handle always having a duck ready for bear guy. Melees just get rid of the mechanic. In no way was it implied that only ranged have the mechanic when it obviously goes on melee as well.
Putting words in my mouth here
willow cradle
Bruh
calm mantle
Guys, it's green! We did it woo
willow cradle
What were we talking about originally? Was it Smold or Council? I was obviously talking about smold my guy
calm mantle
Oh wait, that was heroic nevermind.
tardy lark
Talking smolderon while talking council or vice versa. I have 0 clue what you are deluding about
But you do you king
young swan
u were talking about melee friendliness in raids
sinful spoke
Xan became the schizo pfp
young swan
aagaard believes melee unfriendliness isnt real (rogue player)(has long arms)(unkillable)
covert blaze
Lost to me btw
doesn't he lose to swordish every raid
sour frigate
Bazed
covert blaze
aagaard believes melee unfriendliness isnt real (rogue player)(has long arms)(un...
real
willow cradle
Talking smolderon while talking council or vice versa. I have 0 clue what you ar...
Good news, it's discord so you can scroll up a bit but I'm also petty so here's a recap.
You compare Council duck duty and Smolderon as having mechanics only ranged handled.
While replying to your Smolderon message I sarcastically asked "Ranged Smold Mechanics? You mean stacking properly lol?
You replied talking about burst phase with heavy movement.
My response was that it went for both ranged and melee DPS but was less invasive for melee yaddi yadda.
You then kinda just did a 180 from your original point and essentially repeated what I just said for some reason.
Bit more pointless bickering afterwards.
wanton mirage
consistency is the key.
mystic rose
Hi all, out of curiosity. If I don't have any T31 or T30, which talents should I pick? D:
summer quail
the t30 talents
mystic rose
Even if I don't have any T30?
summer quail
yes
summer quail
compared to what? the t31 talents?
mystic rose
yeah
summer quail
should be doing decently better with the t30 talents. are you using with your cds whenever you can?
mystic rose
Annihilator w/ Odyn's Fury
mystic rose
should be doing decently better with the t30 talents. are you using with your cd...
All of them, on cycle
olive wraith
That’s t31 friend
mystic rose
trying to properly time them
olive wraith
T30 is the ravager build
mystic rose
That’s t31 friend
I was using Annihilator w/ Odyn's Fury and it was doing more than the T30 talents, with no tier set
olive wraith
Ya that def should happen. You sure you had the right build for rav
mystic rose
Ya that def should happen. You sure you had the right build for rav
i copy pasted the one in Wowhead
olive wraith
What you can do is remove the left side bt focused talents
And use raging blow talents instead
summer quail
i copy pasted the one in Wowhead
then you're prob not playing correctly
muted star
best thing to do is just get 4pc, you'd have 8 catalyst charges
mystic rose
then you're prob not playing correctly
I don't rule out that possibility, as it's probably the case
summer quail
tho in a way it's good that you're doing more damage with the anni build. you're gonna be playing it once you get 4p anyways
night dune
Ayo how many babies do I sacrifice to RNG demons to get a decent Might to drop, thanks in advance
sullen dove
depends how hard you throw em
dense elbow
Nelf
primal hazel
for fury warrior
sullen dove
whatever u like, but i find usually bigger/taller/lankier ones loot cool as hell
primal hazel
I really like worgen
dense elbow
If you want meme, undead female
sullen dove
i imagine worgen looks good but also its a worgen
primal hazel
Cause rampage looks like it hurts
and I hate male zandalari animations
fuckin spin moves wtf
sullen dove
lul
young swan
undead if u dont like human aesthetics but like the animations
dense elbow
Nelf is da way, always
young swan
Nelf is da way, always
bold thing to say while typing like a troll
dense elbow
Also, shadowmeld animation and sound, 10/10
dense elbow
Worst animations, Belf?
dense elbow
Fair, will give Belf that
night dune
Nah keep them in ranged classes, the twirling and shit on their 2h swings looks goofy
primal hazel
is there a video that really goes thru all of em
young swan
wish that racials werent actually tied to race so i could play the one I like instead
night dune
MFs go more whimsical than gnomes do ffs
young swan
is there a video that really goes thru all of em
u could prob search for one
wowhead also has a dressing room tool where u can demo animations
primal hazel
I keep pulling classic videos
primal hazel
okay I found a highmountain tauren one
sullen dove
my guild took to calling it a rat pad cuz they used to all reroll until they got vulpera
primal hazel
gonna assume they are the same
sullen dove
horrendous association for that toy
primal hazel
Does just about every race rampage the same way?
sullen dove
but it just is the ratpad now
yea i mean that'll prolly be similar
harder to like, make special a move that hits 4 attacks
one sword, the other sword, then both swords
night dune
For us it's the rescue/grip training dummy
sullen dove
maybe theres some variance but i imagine they all do look similar
mystic rose
best thing to do is just get 4pc, you'd have 8 catalyst charges
I want to at least have an heroic piece first to trade it 😦
but that has not been the case so far
young swan
okay I found a highmountain tauren one
go thru the animations
theres a lot
these are the ones ur gonna wanna look at
night dune
Also on this note both versions of Nelf are shockingly good
young swan
and u can just change race and look
cause im pretty sure its just BT that has diff animations for us
dense elbow
Told ya, Nelf, always
silver dawn
Go go gadget forsaken best race.
primal hazel
Im not seeing where to input animations
young swan
primal hazel
Im on PC, and I can see that your grab comes from this element
young swan
very odd
prob have to open the tool yourself
its prob giving u the link to my dressing room to look at
primal hazel
gotcha gotcha
oh wait
Okay you cant be on the tmog screen
if you go over to the race screen its there
young swan
gg
rotund isle
does anyone know what weapons are best for SMF? Apart from fyrakk wep, i cant find any list or anything
i have 2 servant splitter for example, wondering if thats a good for smf or only prot
rotund isle
yeah i know thats why im asking xD
rotund isle
i noticed lol
young swan
especially in a patch with a legendary 2h wep
thank u for reminding me to update smf talents in FAQ
lean wasp
They should make smf a full build thing like they did with of, ravager and AM
sullen dove
young swan
They should make smf a full build thing like they did with of, ravager and AM
literally so absurdly wrong
it should be cosmetic
young swan
farming 4 weapons is not interesting
sullen dove
its already better
young swan
especially having to farm weapons from the most hotly contested weapon slot
lean wasp
farming 4 weapons is not interesting
Its not like they're both gonna be meta at the same time
covert blaze
imagine actually just wanting to play smf for the mog
very werid
young swan
Its not like they're both gonna be meta at the same time
2h would prob always be better in aoe
ST is the only place smf can compete
lean wasp
Just make it a full build thing that sometimes gets some buffs and changes it becomes meta for a season or 2
lean wasp
ST is the only place smf can compete
Atm yes am talking rework
young swan
yeah that still sounds ass
sullen dove
i feel like smf existing is even weird, like honestly it should just be semi equivalent to titans grip, cuz the only real similar thing is like how casters can either use a staff or a 1hand/offhand and i dont think theres any actual difference there except whenever one or the other has special proc effects or just better stats
young swan
like theres probably a world where it works and makes sense but its so far removed from where we are currently and even from where we could be
sullen dove
but furys the only spec in the game to have 2 2hander's worth of stats and nothings rly gonna come close to that
young swan
that theres just no chance it would ever be executed properly
lean wasp
i feel like smf existing is even weird, like honestly it should just be semi equ...
Yea exactly otherwise whats the point of the talent existing anyway
young swan
correct
sullen dove
i mean the talent should just not exist
young swan
they should make it a passive
sullen dove
and just be ingrained into equipping 2 1handers
but even that wouldnt be enough
like idk
if 1handers are half the stats of 2handers the passive could just be "double the stats of 1handers when you have 2 1handers"
or just increase by x% until its the same as a 2hander
lean wasp
It needs a full rework making its a full build on its own which is worth to spec into
sullen dove
the only thing that could possibly make that even a little interesting and call it "its own build" is if you just have like 500% attack speed
and you are just melee flurry mf
but even that idk that just invites annihilator like permanently attached to that build
lean wasp
Either that or just remove the talent
sullen dove
well in the hypothetical world where you remove the talent and just somehow make smf equal stats/dps to titans grip, there would be 0 change in gameplay
you are just holding 1handers instead of 2 handers
which again is literally only transmog cosmetic diff
lean wasp
but even that idk that just invites annihilator like permanently attached to tha...
Yeah it becomes good for a season or 2 and then it gets nerfed and you get to go 2h again for a different playa style
vague copper
Its not new but how is this possible? 😄
lean wasp
Making a reall powerful tier bonus for the talent would make it viable and make it easily reversible
young swan
Its not new but how is this possible? 😄
link the full log
blissful kestrel
if u wanna play SMF just go play a rogue
vague copper
Monk 1,5 m 😄
vague copper
exactly
sullen dove
ginormous manipulation of somethin
lean wasp
if u wanna play SMF just go play a rogue
Am not necessarily saying i wanna play smf but am saying since we have talent why just not have some fun and make it a thing where its like a new build with new rotation that people can enjoy for sometime
young swan
yeah theres some exploiting going on there
vague copper
The timer must be scuffed
sullen dove
lmao look at the replay and click on a caster
mage is casting like .2sec frostbolts
they def somehow just like, sped their kill up by like 5 or 10x
or something
boss is also casting that fast
fleet cargo
smf dagger gangg
lean wasp
They had the raid on 4x to speed up the farm
clever path
whats a better play for 26 WM this week fury or arms?
Whichever you prefer
clever path
Why ask the question if you are dead set on the answer?
clever path
You’ll brick it much faster if you go arms
mild kraken
ur trolling bro
young swan
just human racial
clever path
ur trolling bro
Pointless discussion, you are just looking for validation for what you have already chosen.
summer quail
You’ll brick it much faster if you go arms
???
mild kraken
Pointless discussion, you are just looking for validation for what you have alre...
quit talking if u dont have an answer
trying to start an argument
its pointless
clever path
Sorry, I was giving you the answer
young swan
it doesnt matter what u play
mild kraken
thank you xan
clever path
mild kraken
my name is a special colour so im automatically better
true
clever path
summer quail
2nd last boss is insane for arms
young swan
yeah 2nd last is really good
tree is really good
raal is really good
even last boss is sick for arms
only one that sucks kinda is triad
but that boss just sucks period
mild kraken
i think waycrest just sucks
young swan
the bfa dungeons are all sullied by horrific boss design
summer quail
i'll take waycrest over freehold anyday
mild kraken
hottest take of 2024
young swan
they all just have 1 omega stinker boss
that makes the dungeon unbearable
at minimum anyways
freehold is ass purely because of sharknado man
that boss is complete dogshit
summer quail
sharknado man and i also really dislike the barrel boss. hahaha you got targeted now you cannot play the game
young swan
i dont absolutely hate that boss but that mechanic isnt great yeah
summer quail
hate when they design shit like that
young swan
a lot of the bfa dungeons were just like "haha forced loss of uptime very engaging!"
mild kraken
wonder what it feels like to run academy
summer quail
academy owns
young swan
the elemental is scary
summer quail
tho the elemental boss is kinda rough on higher keys
mild kraken
i thought that is what we were getting this season
indigo arch
same
indigo arch
raiding
already despise having to run fyrakks every week to watch other ppl get axes
mild kraken
depression overload
indigo arch
and/or augurys
clever path
Just loot it you guys
indigo arch
season 4 dragon soul raid when, gimme gurthalak
mild kraken
give me twilight dev at this point
indigo arch
nah severe+strikethrough stacking
mild kraken
idefk what that means
mild kraken
yeah before my time