fury

[storm rune]

I still need to level an ally through bfa, feel like there was so much I missed out on

[eternal sundial]

defo should do drustvar

i didnt care for stormsong much tbh

[mighty wren]

stormsong was the northern bit, with a lot of green hills?

[eternal sundial]

ye

[fallen rune]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bpgBd87cMq1DnzGj#fight=16&type=damage-done&source=12

Hi guys, heres a log of my volc kill yesterday.
Few questions: what do you guys sim on a 5 min fight ?
Im Simming 220k dps ; i dealt on that fight 220k dps and my parses are blue and the itemlvlparse is even worse 😂
Do you guys know why? Does my gear suck? Or why is that

[eternal sundial]

ur not playing spear

[final birch]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/449510248579858432 is best channel for that to get most thorough responses usually

[lilac lynx]

Anyone know which trinkets to use on tindral?

[fallen rune]

Oh im Sorry i will do that

[eternal sundial]

in a spot like this you should hold reck for ava

reck with OF - duration overlaps enough but still not ideal

[summer quail]

also logs are largely dictated by killtimes, your killtime was long

[eternal sundial]

yea

4:22 is almost the WORST you can get

you want close to 3:30 ish or 4:50 ish

for either 3 or 4 avatars

[fallen rune]

Do you think it’s also worth using dragon thingy After Avatar? Cuz of the buff ?

Okay thanks already for the constructice Feedback ♥️

[eternal sundial]

you also dropped ashen jugg

for no reason

[eternal sundial]

no just after OF in opener

also all things considered your augury didnt highroll

[oblique trail]

@open prairie Perfecto joined my M+ group on my 440 rat rogue, and he left after 3 seconds

thots?

[modern badger]

Sorry just gonna throw it in there what’s people stat prio at higher ilvl ?

[oblique trail]

The prio that sims the best

[eternal sundial]

mast/vers>haste/crit

but simski

[storm rune]

also 25% haste

[modern badger]

Be honest with yous I’m not massively clued up on simming

[eternal sundial]

dont look up stat %

[modern badger]

I’ve tried doing it but all it’s showing is the dps I should be doing ? But I can do less than that on some bosses

[eternal sundial]

sim is a robot playing absolutely perfectly no downtime

[fallen rune]

Ive heard using execute when popping cd‘s would be a dmg waste, but i should use it if ashen juggernaut would drop instead?

[eternal sundial]

yea never drop AJ

[storm rune]

From 450 to 487 I've pretty consistently wanted roughly 3500-4000 haste, it's fair to say around 25% haste is a sweet spot

[modern badger]

Right so I can potentially drop some haste then for another stay

[sour badger]

Guys I have 2 whirlwind talents . So I have 4 attacks enchanted. Do my other skills for example rampage and raging blow affect it?

[fallen rune]

Yes they do

[eternal sundial]

yea it basically makes your attacks do AOE

when you have the buff

[sour badger]

Only attacks or rampage “special attacks” are also affected?

[fallen rune]

Thanks mr psyduck, i’ll get a wa for that buff i didnt even know i gotta Play around 😂

[eternal sundial]

everything that hits 1 target directly

[noble frost]

https://wago.io/AoE_CC_Assignment

[storm rune]

ramp for all relevant purposes is counted as a single attack

[noble frost]

this thing is dead

anyone knows another similar?

[modern badger]

I’m 485 and these are my current stats and thoughts be appreciated

[meager gyro]

your haste is in the moon, wth

[storm rune]

That's an insane amount of haste

[sour badger]

Oh I see

Thank you

[fallen rune]

If im not mistaken you should drop some haste for vers

[eternal sundial]

or just sim

[fallen rune]

This dude knows

[modern badger]

Tried simming mate not the best with it

[fallen rune]

If you Need Help, just ask bro

[eternal sundial]

https://youtu.be/ELbq8bdMlvY?si=U2Nqo7JAtubBbAyQ

[modern badger]

Nice one I’ll give it a go tonight

[sour badger]

Is there and addon that pop numbers of damage in semi circle

And not like directly on enemy

[sturdy zodiac]

armoury shows haste pre DR fyi

also bin

[eternal sundial]

i just use default damage numbers so im not sure

i think theres some stuff people like critcake use that moves it

[sour badger]

As I was explained yesterday

About addons

[eternal sundial]

you think you want any?

[sour badger]

I tried to see what they do and how to install them

[sour badger]

I haven’t tried many yet

[storm rune]

Mik's scrolling battle text still works like 18 years later

[sour badger]

But I tried btw quest

And it’s very good

[clever path]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[eternal sundial]

i can recommend TomTom

if you go to wowheads comments youll often see "coordinates"

tomtom tells u where they are and how to get to them

[sour badger]

Ooh

That’s good

Im gonna check it out

Thank you so much

[fallen rune]

I recommend details, it’s a dps Meter which lets u Analyse how you stomped the Other N00bZz

[eternal sundial]

this is how it looks like

[sour badger]

Guys I often see that “reputation with proudmoore admiralty is increased” what I need this reputation for? Can it go down? And what are the benefits

[sour badger]

That’s so cool

[eternal sundial]

you can buy some drip

if its high enough

this tabard for example

[sour badger]

Omg are you telling me we gonna hunt witches in drustward

[eternal sundial]

[sour badger]

Got the quest to help waycrest

And it’s the dungeon with witch

[clever path]

you also get access to giga kul tirans horse

the blonde stallion

[eternal sundial]

yep

[nocturne dragon]

I think we should make one for fury, the arms got 40 40 30 30 believer, what do we got for fury?

[lean wasp]

What's 40-40-30-30 ?

Does this mean you have 30% mastery ????

[eternal sundial]

arms

a definitely realistic statline everyone wanting to parse more than blue is required to have

[cerulean spire]

Question > BT has priority over Sudden Death proc, execute and Rampage right? Even if we are gonna get capped at rage

[eternal sundial]

bt>ramp only if ur enraged and it wont cap u

[foggy urchin]

Cocained warrior

[sour badger]

I started to feel that I do more damage

[umbral galleon]

i think frenzy should give 3% haste

[sullen cloak]

In regard to some previous posts and questions- my secondary stats are :

Crit - 21% - 2,607
Haste - 29% - 3,088
Mast - 66% - 6,813
Vers - 23% - 4,757

these are unbuffed in terms of raid and food buffs and feels like a good balance and DPS is very good with it

[sterile remnant]

Currently whats the top sim for fury?

[sullen cloak]

Single Target I sim 257,019 single target on a 2 min raid parse

My Volocross parse is 257,244 with a kill time of 1.53 so this seems really accurate

[sour badger]

I have a lot to grow

Seeing these big numbers

[sullen cloak]

Having a quick look at the top parse...its 283,987 with a 1.59 kill timer....god knows how her did that!

Mirror of fractured tomorrows seems to pop up a bit in the top parses....is this trinket any good?

[gusty fern]

god knows = rng

[sullen cloak]

has to be .....seems like an insanely high single target dps

[eternal sundial]

run spear on volc bro

turbo free to use there

[sullen cloak]

I never really run spear....you think it is good for Volc then?

[oblique trail]

Spear is good for Volc, Nymue and Smolderon

[nocturne dragon]

Well it is generally good for ST.

[oblique trail]

There's no reason not to use it on those fights unless you're just straight up lazy and don't care about the damage increase

[sullen cloak]

Ok...will give that a go....trying to maximise my parses and get as high ALlstars as possible this season so might give it a go

What do you guys think of the mirror trinket?

[shy knot]

I sim 213k lol no lego, no fun

[eternal sundial]

good for shortish kills

like mythic volc

[sullen cloak]

I have a 489 one sat in my bag....might sim it on a short timer and see how it does

[runic pine]

Only fight I didn’t run it on was Nymue because last portion of the fight is so hectic

[oblique trail]

Never had issues on any of my Nymue kills with it

When I used it I've been able to consistently stay inside of it

[runic pine]

I could have made it work

Just couldn’t be fucked

Doesn’t matter anymore anyways cuz arms owns and extending until Fyrakk

[eternal sundial]

fyrakk on arms

lookin forward to it

[runic pine]

I’m gonna be a menace and arms on T Swift

[eternal sundial]

im assigned fury for it gg

[fair wolf]

But for Smolderon, you cant stay all the time inside the spear, so maybe is better use roar...

[oblique trail]

It's not better

You can live eating a ring as Fury if you use ER + SR

[fair wolf]

In mythic?

[oblique trail]

It's greed so it's not really recommended for progress if you're not comfortable playing the fight

Yes

[rich palm]

My healers get mad when I do that 😁

[oblique trail]

You can sustain yourself during it

[rich palm]

Cocoon and you will live easy.

[oblique trail]

Idk it changes from guild to guild

Some don't care at all, others don't trust their players and don't like them taking more damage

[rich palm]

But we had so many people eating the rings I wasn't allowed lol

[runic pine]

My guild didn’t even know I was doing it until like 90 pulls into Smolderon

[eternal sundial]

wasted external

you sr hit and then ER dot

[oblique trail]

That's just skill issues if many people are doing it

[eternal sundial]

and ur turbo chillin

[rich palm]

Not mine don't care 😁

[runic pine]

And they only found out because I asked our prot pally if he could sac me on the first ring set instead of me blowing ER on it

[oblique trail]

Like dodging the rings is very easy

[runic pine]

[rich palm]

Yes we have many issues, but managed a kill in the end.

[oblique trail]

So either you're on purpose eating them because you're Fury, or just bad at dodging it which is kinda silly

[rich palm]

1 night prog on tindral and managed to break shield on the transition.

Then it all went to shit lol.

Must say for warrior it's pretty easy, healers and tanks were stressing tho.

[lean wasp]

this is the main reason i play warrior, part of the fun is not worrying about mechanics too much

[sour badger]

Lvl 40

🎊

How should I use recklessness? On tough enemies?

[lean wasp]

ye its a cooldown so use it when you need it and dont save it for the next patch

[sullen cloak]

Given 200 teams have now killed Mythic Fyrakk...does that mean next reset Mythic will be cross realm?

[barren dagger]

In pugs do you guys have any luck getting into keys if you haven’t timed the lower key level? (Example: i struggle to get into +24 in a tyrannical key if i timed a +23 fortified but only +22 tyrannical).

Is this a warrior problem or does every class have this

[halcyon python]

Hey guys do you macro your might of the oc aligned with avatar? Any macro suggestion

[halcyon python]

People dont apprreciate warriors enough

[barren dagger]

I macro reck with might of the ocean because i always use them together. Avatar i use 4s later so i don’t macro any trinkets with it

[halcyon python]

Pala is much more requested for brz

[halcyon python]

Thanks mate

Appreciate the tip

[clever path]

ye

[sullen cloak]

Amazing!!!

[lean wasp]

whats the deal with smolderon wa? why does it not work sometimes

[shy knot]

Where is look back at fury/arms warrior on wowhead lol

All the shitty other specs are already there

[clever belfry]

[warm crag]

me when i care about content farm clickbait

[warm crag]

you gotta be a tiny tiny bit more specific

[hidden kite]

Lool

[lean wasp]

the private wa

[warm crag]

yeah what about it doesnt work

the weakaura is perfect it is only user error that can break it

[lean wasp]

yea ik

thats why am asking

we just started prog and it seems our rl have no clue

i never dealt with private wa before so am also clueless

[eternal sundial]

well it does 1 thing

you press and it puts u on the list

if you dont have it and press or if you dont press and have it

you will not resolve the mechanic

[warm crag]

what even is the problem you haven't described anything at all other than "whats the deal it does not work"

[lean wasp]

i have the wa i have the macro

i used the macro and still nothing shows up

[eternal sundial]

did you actually press it

[lean wasp]

targeted or not targeted its just never shows up

[warm crag]

does everyone have the same weakaura version with the correct macro, is everyone that is actually assigned pressing it

[lean wasp]

yeah i have it keybound i assume i did press it

[warm crag]

it literally never shows up? then you have a problem with the WA itself you should see others appear

[lean wasp]

we all have the same wa since it was linked in guild discord

[eternal sundial]

reimport wa and re-paste macro

put it on bars try again

[glacial ether]

Hey guys. Can someone please help me understand what is wrong with my build and suggest some changes? Not ilvl changes, but complete item or stat change if possible. Thanks! -> https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/tarren-mill/tudorut

I tried to sim some changes to items, but the best I could get is +0.1% damage

[eternal sundial]

aquire legendary

[warm crag]

also lacking ilvl

[clever belfry]

483 holy mole

[warm crag]

and that might be the vaguest request possible to just look at your character

[clever belfry]

literally get full 483 gear first idk

probably craft a weapon no joke

[eternal sundial]

ur missing 4 sockets

[warm crag]

+3 ilvl mainhand lets go

[clever belfry]

definetly bigger than the "0.1%"

[warm crag]

wait

oly moly

one embellishment

nvm

two

[eternal sundial]

signet brand lacking

[warm crag]

get a signet or might pips aint it

[glacial ether]

This is my friend's character and he does the same damage as me or sometimes higher: https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/tarren-mill/corvick

[warm crag]

bushido raiders

[umbral galleon]

how much str a 488 warrior has?

[warm crag]

tell your friend to socket his fucking gear jfc man

[eternal sundial]

also fix ur mog

why is my shit not sending

[eternal sundial]

reeks of skill issue he also has dogshit gear

[glacial ether]

He just started playing again

That gear is a 1 week work

[warm crag]

and it takes 20 seconds to fully socket your neck

[umbral galleon]

how much str a 488 warrior has?

[eternal sundial]

you both should just aquire full 483 and then sim topgear

[eternal sundial]

let me log on 2 secs

[warm crag]

and imma be real with you if you're getting diffed by a 478 warrior you should probably double check the guides if you're playing fury fine

[eternal sundial]

as arms

[warm crag]

crafting wep and trying to get some more ilvls is probably the best thing you can do gear wise rn

[glacial ether]

The rotation is okay imo, I checked both our rotations and we do it mostly identical

[warm crag]

i mean

clearly not if a 478 warrior is rolling you

[eternal sundial]

99% of people who think they are playing rota right arent - if you could log the next raid or whatever we can help

[umbral galleon]

so in total 17k?

[eternal sundial]

i just post the screenshot

idk what it says

[warm crag]

im checking your logs you're missing basics

this is an opener of all time

[glacial ether]

It was my first time in Mythic. I was learning mechs. I am referring to M+

[warm crag]

unmacro avatar and spear please

[umbral galleon]

i just wanna see this but on a 488

[eternal sundial]

if you do meh in raid youll generally not be sick at keys either - no harm taking some advice

even if its harsh if you do many things wrong youll improve a lot

[glacial ether]

I accept suggestions 😄

[warm crag]

you filled with ww instead of slam, i'd genuinely recommend maybe reading over basics again

if you want the good news you're pressing spell reflect on volcoross which makes you play better than 99% of people

[glacial ether]

For the MR :))

[umbral galleon]

can someone 488 print the same

[glacial ether]

regarding filling with WW over SLAM, was it on Volcoros?

[warm crag]

ye

[glacial ether]

Well, mb

I know Slam takes prio over WW in ST

[umbral galleon]

ty psyduck

[glacial ether]

Spongie, is there anything crucial that you can see that I am doing wrong?

Regarding rotation

[warm crag]

im not good at reading fury logs for that but it just feels like you might just be playing a bit slow?

compare my opener to yours

i managed to close your log sec

ignore the doubled rampages thats a log display thing

as i said unmacro avatar and spear

[glacial ether]

I will

[eternal sundial]

20 globals used vs 16 used

[warm crag]

you dont want to press those at the same time

press bt after the slam

[glacial ether]

The logs for myth raid are not the reflection of what I usually do regardin speed of casts. I was focusing on mechs more and was being focused on other things.

[glacial ether]

Agreed

Panic press, mb

I saw that I do it sometimes

[eternal sundial]

thatll get better of time dont worry

[glacial ether]

Gotta fix that

[eternal sundial]

when do you raid again

[warm crag]

i mean idk your damage and action speed isnt stellar but thats somewhat expected if you're not used to optimizing that for years

in your defense you're also getting comp diffed

[glacial ether]

Yea, I am kinda new to Fury

to War overall

compared to most of you

[clever path]

Yes we are what you would call warrior enthusiasts here

[glacial ether]

Got a question regarding rotation

[eternal sundial]

id recommend abusing some training dummies till the rotation goes smoothly

[warm crag]

dw about it you'll get it if you actually try to learn why the best do when they do stuff

[glacial ether]

Do I use Bloodthirst with the buff from Odyn Fury if I cannot use it as Bloodbath?

[warm crag]

your hc volc opener looks better but you're still delaying your spear until 10 seconds in

[clever path]

if u cant build to a rampage

yes

[eternal sundial]

its better to use the buff on a bloodthirst than to not have anything to press

[warm crag]

oh nvm

wait this opener is infinitely better

flip the spear and of and you will blast more burst

thats my own opener

im a fucking idiot

[eternal sundial]

[glacial ether]

lol

[warm crag]

u get my point

[glacial ether]

yes

I am not used to playing with spear, as I played more M+

[clever path]

reck charge rampage of spear bb ramp bb ramp ava bb ramp bb or something

[barren dagger]

+3 ilvl to wep is like 800 dps upgrade for me. Real?

[clever path]

u ava when ur of ava falls off

[glacial ether]

is it ok if in M+ I macro Avatar with Thunderous roar?

[warm crag]

probably real

[clever path]

why would u macro

[eternal sundial]

no

[clever path]

we have 2 buttons

[warm crag]

its technically okay but for the wrong reasons

[clever path]

anyway

[barren dagger]

am i using 2 shards and like 10k gold for 800 dps?

[eternal sundial]

you want agency over your damage and if you combine them its meh

since youd wanna reck charge ww ramp of ROAR > stuff > ava

[clever path]

i can see delaying roar in some cases

[eternal sundial]

in aoe

[glacial ether]

Avatar and Thunderous roar are both 1.5 Min CD and Avatar buffs Thunderous Roar, that's why I use it like that

[warm crag]

avatar and odyns fury are interchangeable to buff up roar

and since OF is reduced by your tierset you want to get that out first

[glacial ether]

I always use it first

[warm crag]

you're arbitrarily holding your roar for a few seconds when you just don't have to do that

[glacial ether]

Got it

[warm crag]

current fury legit does not need any macros and they're probably detracting from your dps

[clever path]

also has 4 buttons u regularly press

idk why would u macro

anything

[warm crag]

idk im running out of space

legendary didnt help with button allocation at all

• macro for private auras

[glacial ether]

This is how it looks for me:

I use thunderous roar without avatar macro sometimes too

I have it on Q

[warm crag]

ye get rid of the macro and press them individually

[glacial ether]

okok

[eternal sundial]

get a all in 1 stance macro

[warm crag]

half your ui is dedicated to mounts lol

[clever path]

idk half of my bars are empty

with macros and shit

even with*

[glacial ether]

ancestral call is macroed to be pressed before Recklesness and also Before Avatar, is that ok?

[eternal sundial]

i just have shit like hamstring bound but id have maybe 15 binds free

[eternal sundial]

yes

[clever path]

i dont think i pressed it once

[glacial ether]

I also use it individually if needed

[clever path]

this season

[glacial ether]

The slow?

[clever path]

10 rage + ww cleave stack

cba

[warm crag]

i mean its a slow

[glacial ether]

It's good in BRH, WM, Atal Dazar on ADS

on boss

[clever path]

idk we have slows already

i legit dont need it

[warm crag]

i havent pressed it once either but you should still have it bound

[clever path]

ye i have it bound if i really need it

[glacial ether]

It's situational and I use it only on ads that need to be slowed so they don't get to the boss or stuff like that

[clever path]

i love bursting so much

second wind tech

[warm crag]

low pickrate

[clever path]

real

[eternal sundial]

its legit only for pvp

[clever path]

do you ever play titanic throw

[eternal sundial]

no

[clever path]

i know piercing verdict is played in pvp

[glacial ether]

On Gnarloot, should I save my Odyn Fury and Avatar for ADS or use it as regular rotation?

[eternal sundial]

howl/fear break ye

[clever path]

i know u dont play either shockwave capstones

[eternal sundial]

send ava on pull and of on cd and then 2nd set of cds into damage amp

[warm crag]

loboz build oly moly

[clever path]

loboz build enjoyers

90k st

[warm crag]

we should recommend loboz build to noobers

[clever path]

fuck killing the boss

tindral mythic secret build

[eternal sundial]

sirely

[warm crag]

loboz mythic never fly hack

[glacial ether]

and for Tindral, do I use OF and Avatar on pull as usual or wait for roots and use them do do more damage to the roots?

[clever path]

Loboz real zug

[eternal sundial]

i might be able to chose when i wanna go - i can ask for full skip

[eternal sundial]

i just send both on first add wave and roar of on 2nd

then of into p2 shield 1

on hc fwiw

[warm crag]

if you wanna look up what other ppl did with their cds timing wise you can check lorrgs

you will spot 👁️ the loboz build though

[glacial ether]

not sure what that is

[warm crag]

just search lorrgs.io

you can see most ppl send reck of on pull and hold the ava for the first roots

[clever path]

i love being first on feathers

[warm crag]

why are you first on feathers

[clever path]

idk cba changing it now making people relearn shit

i adjusted

[summer quail]

Youre being trolled

[clever path]

shit boss anyway

[warm crag]

noob

[clever path]

[warm crag]

do none of you look up warriors povs and notice literally everyone flies second or

why does this keep happening

[sterile kraken]

why is it a troll to go first my rl got me on 1

[clever path]

its shit

[warm crag]

fucks over your cds in p3

[clever path]

if u are starting prog dont do it

[warm crag]

and the rest of the fight

[clever path]

cds are horrendously mistimed on everything

[summer quail]

First thing i did

[sterile kraken]

sickkk gonna send this

[warm crag]

if you fly second you lose a tiny bit of value from exactly one OF

[clever path]

bro the opener is actual pain

[warm crag]

if you fly first you need god

[clever path]

charge driveby bt charge bt ramp of

[warm crag]

i just charge bt charge of lol

[glacial ether]

thanks a lot

[clever path]

ye but u need of back asap

i dont

so i can wait till enrage

[glacial ether]

still not sure what this means

[clever path]

ik gajeel sends it unenraged cause he needs it back asap

[summer quail]

Like i literally just said to my rl "as long as im not on first then it's fine" then he had to move me

[eternal sundial]

i just threaten ill go arms if put on fly 1

[warm crag]

there's a build that famous warrior loboz plays on gnarlroot and tindral that does like 90k singletarget dps but once every 90s he does like infinite damage to adds

[clever path]

i mean if i go arms its better no

if im first

surely

[warm crag]

its completely pad and unnecessary but he does a lot of dam

do not the arms

[clever path]

why not

[eternal sundial]

do not the arms for aoe

[clever path]

[glacial ether]

oh, so loboz is a player, got it

[eternal sundial]

best arms play on the boss is just full st

[clever path]

ye i just rng sd procs

casino gaming

[warm crag]

@eternal sundial update my lariat is crafted but its 4 stars not 5

so i cant play arms

[clever path]

but thankfully we are not shaman gaming, which is literally just slots but with shiny effects

[eternal sundial]

unfortunate

(saved)

[mossy fox]

gnarlroot a joke

idk even if i had leggo im not sure i'd care about parsing on this boss

[eternal sundial]

@warm cragloboz left oblivion so no more logs 🤔

[mossy fox]

im so over this raid

[warm crag]

i got a 98 on gnarlroot and i dont particularily care about improving that

it seems like gear will just get you orange+

[slim coral]

[eternal sundial]

i got 3? 99s on it and its so fcking dumb

i just send full st

and u get good log

[arctic prawn]

what uptime should i sim corrupting rage at?

[eternal sundial]

80

[arctic prawn]

kk ty

[unreal onyx]

I sim 85

[warm crag]

lemme check how much uptime i had on smold

[mossy fox]

prolly 85ish

on smold

[warm crag]

73% wtf lol

but the boss got like 5 buffs

[mossy fox]

did you also commit crimes or what

[arctic prawn]

what about if im trynna sim for m+?

[summer quail]

Did you stand in fire with er tho

[warm crag]

i stood in the first ring i guess

[eternal sundial]

i had 82 on smold no eating

[clever path]

i stay in first and last idk the gate -> leap is faster than moving out of the first one

[eternal sundial]

ye

eating 2nd not rlly pog

[clever path]

i also pot those

[unreal onyx]

I don't use corrupting rage on prog

[clever path]

first and last

[eternal sundial]

i forgot to pot pull on kill so i potted i3

[warm crag]

not talking abt prog when talking abt corrupting rage

[unreal onyx]

and since we extended for smold onwards I used vers

[clever path]

tho on reclear i might just pot third

iirc u can pot on pull and third right

that might be better than 1st and last int

[eternal sundial]

ye idk i woulda done more if 2 pots and ava off cd on pull xd

[warm crag]

is third the one you lust

[clever path]

ye

[warm crag]

ye thats probably the play

[eternal sundial]

you cant get pull and 3rd

i think youd get pull and 4th if u see it

[glacial ether]

Spongie, on this website you can only see the big CDs only, right?

[eternal sundial]

but thats guaranteed in execute

[clever path]

idk im going arms on all bosses on reclear anyway

[eternal sundial]

wouldnt help much if you saw bloodbath

[warm crag]

you can see whatever is on the top bar

[clever path]

fatality gaming

in 3rd int

[eternal sundial]

always pot 3rd then for fatality

[clever path]

yep

i ask for pi

build a massive tom

[warm crag]

OF is the smallest thing you can have displayed

[clever path]

pot

fatality

[eternal sundial]

ashes believer?

[clever path]

dont have it

[eternal sundial]

on pull on cd wait for i3

[clever path]

but will try to get it

[eternal sundial]

[summer quail]

Need aug for big mark

[clever path]

nah aug steals too much

[eternal sundial]

aug doesnt get fatal

like at all

[warm crag]

citation needed

[clever path]

fuck aug

/cancelaura on all abilities

[eternal sundial]

🐮 🧑‍🌾

[umbral galleon]

we dont wanna hit tier procs of bloodthirst unless its bloodbath right

[clever path]

I agree

Useless spec and anyone who plays it should instantly delete the game

Especially Anda

if u cant build up to ramp u send on bt

[eternal sundial]

rather press it with bt than having nothing to press

[eternal sundial]

he doesnt play aug what are you inhaling

[umbral galleon]

sometimes i just heroic leap charge

for the rampage

[eternal sundial]

or just press d?

or A

and strafe out

[umbral galleon]

what charge do u have bro

[clever path]

effort

[eternal sundial]

8 yard

hello

[umbral galleon]

faster to heroic leap

[clever path]

what is this

[warm crag]

my man is charge weaving in 2024

[clever path]

reprisal prot

9.1 arms

charge weaving

[eternal sundial]

and doing it with leap (wrong)

[eternal sundial]

[umbral galleon]

if the boss is moving away from you sure

[eternal sundial]

try convince yourself thats a real char

[clever path]

prot used to do that

[umbral galleon]

but if hes still u heroic leap

[clever path]

in sl

[warm crag]

charge weaving by strafing out is faster than leaping it

[clever path]

[warm crag]

and doesnt drain your best movement tool

[eternal sundial]

you can spot a guy who didnt play arm in sl

[warm crag]

unless you're fighting

2nd boss galakronds fall

phil obliterated

[clever path]

cant charge on that boss

[eternal sundial]

spongius you can leap the dispell if done wrong

[clever path]

not allowed

[eternal sundial]

id rather just afk and melee

[warm crag]

im not the one advocating to charge weave a boss in 2024

[eternal sundial]

very true

[slim coral]

I hope they do more raids like the eternal palace

NYA, eteneral palace and CN have to be the best raids they have done thematically

this raid doesnt really feel immersive like those

[shy knot]

This raid feels cheap

[cerulean spire]

Whats the macro to cast spear on our feet?

[dense elbow]

At player

@

[cerulean spire]

ty

[prisma sleet]

can you get 496 lego from lfr?

[slim coral]

I woulndt say cheap it just feels meh

until you get to smolderon

then from there it fucks

[gentle perch]

yes

everyone wil hate you if you do, but you can

[floral obsidian]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/frostmourne/boomdèd

[shy knot]

I only like Fyrak tbh

[floral obsidian]

What stat should I go for

[shy knot]

Bear in mind I only do hc

[floral obsidian]

trying to craft a ring

[gentle perch]

Equip whatever gear your sim tells you

[slim coral]

pog look what dropped on a mog run

[shy knot]

Oh the memories

[umbral galleon]

busted a nut

[dense elbow]

The only way to make inkpod crit somewhat reliably

[gentle perch]

that fucking trinket, with full haste corruptions and the no rage cost essence in execute

[modest condor]

ah yes

stacking coral up to 30% so you had 80% chance for inkpod to crit and then it still didnt crit

good times

coral was goated, inkpod sucked

they should just have made it unable to crit

[gentle perch]

agreed

trinkets like that should never be able to crit

[mossy fox]

thats p much why fatality doesnt crit and doesnt benefit from anything (except for tom/other ap buffs)

[fading sky]

Imo shouldnt benefit from tom

[mossy fox]

prolly difficult to exclude tom, idk

[sinful spoke]

Guys what do u think for fyrakk arms or fury

[modest condor]

depends on if you need boss damage or add damage

[prisma sleet]

2 wafting or 1 wafting and 1 sophic? or depends on sim?

[modest condor]

sim it

[restive peak]

The legal answer is sim, the reality is once you’re in better gear it’s pretty minuscule and I just run double wafting and swap off pieces as sims say

Early on it’ll change often so it’s up to your gold availability lol

[errant vessel]

Low ilvl sophic and wafting are about equal

[prisma sleet]

im 485 atm

i see a high % of players going for double wafting

[errant vessel]

Can’t think of a scenario where you’d take sophic then

Except if you have way too much haste

Idek if Sophic wins on absurd target counts either

[mossy fox]

if souls damage is not needed then arms is a bit better for boss damage, but even then you could argue fury is still better for prog cause it can survive a lot of stupid stuff

thats why i stuck to fury anyway

[oblique trail]

I will stand in all of the stupid stuff

[errant vessel]

Ez healing parse

[oblique trail]

There are like 8 Arms parses anyway so easy 100

[glad coyote]

when you are doing 26's and 27 keys how often are you switching between stances?"

[sinful spoke]

Yeah thats what i think too

But if i have to go arms i will i dotn mind i like arms too

I just wish it was s1 arms

[lunar cape]

Only on almost 1 shots when you don't have any other defensive or actually need it

[gentle perch]

the minor ST increase arms gives is iffy over the pure survive fury does

[prisma sleet]

how do you sim sophic/wafting? i selected sophic and sophic to test but it showed wafting and sophic even though i didnt select wafting

[gentle perch]

so much easier for prog to just not die and still do decent dam

[lunar cape]

There is mh and oh for enchants

Two separate boxes

[modest condor]

pretty much never

def stance isnt really needed yet at that keylevel

mostly for stuff where i cant hit anything so i may as well

[sinful spoke]

Human simming 1.5k dps higher than nelf for me

I might just swap

[lunar cape]

The only boss the comes to mind is tots 1st boss with the walk away shock

[sour frigate]

For unavoidable damage

[median dust]

To be healer-friendly? For most unavoidable dmg you don't have defenses up for. Macro makes it easy to switch back in fourth in a matter of seconds. Free DR is never bad.

[sour frigate]

its not free

u pay everything damage for it

[wet notch]

is there any reason to track t31 buff from 4pc?

[lunar cape]

No, it's just cdr on of

[median dust]

1-2 globals? It's not your main defensive. You don't any dps when you're dead.

[sour frigate]

it was irony

[wet notch]

Tyvm sir

[past pivot]

Velf is just under hooman if you want an elf option.

[sinful spoke]

belf body is ugly

[vague copper]

Its more like malebody looks crap 🥸

[sour frigate]

belfs look weird in general

[clever path]

Human and orc

No need for anything else

[unreal onyx]

nelf

[clever path]

If you don’t want to mog helmets sure

Rest of the body is fire tho

[sour frigate]

u talk about panda sir

[lunar cape]

Or tauren

[sour frigate]

btw panda has cool bt animation

[arctic prawn]

zandalari chad

[stiff topaz]

any busted tw firelands loot for us?

[south kayak]

no clue

prob not

[fleet cargo]

On mplus what do fury use as trinket ?

Ocean and augury is fine ? What do u guys think

[past pivot]

Those are only the BIS trinkets, special exceptions aside, so yeah.

[royal swan]

Does the Lego get affected by our buffs: enrage, recklessness and avatar? I know during opener we use it first, but does that indicate that it cannot be buffed by the 3 buffs mentioned ?

[warm crag]

Enrage yes because it gives us haste

[clever path]

no

dont spread misinformation

someoene will actually make a mistake and make a tauren

i just hate the fact that it has an aoe cc thats off gcd

bonus stamina and crit

[warm crag]

Dunno where you got the idea that we should use the legendary first during the opener thats an arms thing

[clever path]

u leggo after ur cds no?

[warm crag]

Or to fit the fight

[clever path]

i dont have it

surely next week

[supple laurel]

[sullen cloak]

Am i right in thinking spear of bastion is only a dps increase over roar for pure single target encounters?

[clever path]

yes

and even on st its not a big difference

except on smolderon

since bb is guaranteed to crit

and elysian might increases bb crit damage by 25%

[olive wraith]

Bb after of*

[clever path]

2p bb*

3 bbs after of*

[royal swan]

Well it’s according to my sim, it says to charge then use Lego

[clever path]

look pins

0.1% dps increase to use it after ava

[acoustic furnace]

That may be true now that Lego is affected by haste. Using it during lust could be the play now.

[clever path]

make sure u are enraged

since its hasted

[hard widget]

Guys quick question

I havent played live with leggo, but on tournament realm sims telling me to run 40+% crit

While on live its giving me 20-25 ish %

Is this leggo related to push this high crit?

[warm crag]

shouldnt be any correlation im sitting at 22% as my best simming setup

[hard widget]

Not entirely done swapping stuff around

[warm crag]

are you simming like mass aoe or

only reason i could come up with

[hard widget]

Its MDI purpose

(all the gems etc is from arms set so not done with that yet)

Just curious about the giga crit value

[past pivot]

Your vers is very very low so it's amping up the crit to compensate

[hard widget]

Yeah but running double droptimizers for raid / m+ gear should give me vers results than instead no?

[past pivot]

For example, my vers is 30-35% depending on the setup so it values crit less in my sims. Haste is what it's recommending

[runic pine]

Wouldn’t snolderon sword be better than gnarlroot mace?

For offhand

[hard widget]

Smoldy sword is even more crit

[runic pine]

Crit vers no?

[past pivot]

It gives you what you have to work with. With that gear setup, probably easier to stack 10-15% more crit then get 20-25% more vers

[runic pine]

Gotta be better pants too than just crafted for tournament realm

[past pivot]

Plus crit is very good for burst so any MT sims will value crit higher

[runic pine]

Actually yeah

[hard widget]

Thats true

However its specifically for rise

[runic pine]

You’d want tier pants

[hard widget]

Definitely not

[runic pine]

And you’d want AD helm

[runic pine]

For fury yes

[hard widget]

I will keep close to 100% uptime on frostfire legs

[runic pine]

Helm is off piece for fury

Uhhh

[past pivot]

Rook Footman's legs are also good. Crit/mastery

[runic pine]

Why you need frostfire tho for fury

[past pivot]

As long as helm is highest ilvl for helm enchant, it doesn't matter

[quiet geyser]

There is no designed off piece.. it just depends on the rest of your gear

[runic pine]

Your haste is already giga high in fury

[hard widget]

The weird part is this:

[clever path]

not anymore iirc

[past pivot]

Simming stat weights will also be wonky

Which is why people are told not to do it.

[hard widget]

Thats not true

Stat weight is fine

[clever path]

its fine if u know why u are looking at them

[hard widget]

Just gotta know how to work with it

But what i dont get is how little return value crit gives me but still suggesting crit

[runic pine]

Your shit is borked

[clever path]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=207824/greaves-of-parallel-lives?bonus=1579&ilvl=489

is the offpiece

[clever path]

according to simcraft profile

ye but stat weights have their place

[hard widget]

Its because u need to resim on every piece u change

[runic pine]

Interesting

[runic pine]

No

[clever path]

its just that people who dont know why they are simming it are simming it

[runic pine]

It’s not just that

[clever path]

if it was useless they wouldve removed it

[runic pine]

It’s also because it’s simming a very specific gain of stat with no loss of others

It’s honestly just useful imo to put you on the trail of things like simming rune/food/gem swaps etc.

But in general you’re still going to just top gear it so it’s fairly low impact as far as how useful it is as a sim option

[brave totem]

Bloodbath or rampage if i am at full rage?

[clever path]

bb

bb>>all

[brave totem]

Even execute

?

Damn

[clever path]

when was the last time u played fury

antorus?

execute has been shit on fury for ages

[brave totem]

Well mainly shadowlands

[clever path]

rage generator

[brave totem]

Little bit s2

[clever path]

ye u pressed it then to generate rage

if u have ashen juggernaut

you bb>exe>ramp

unless you press of

then u want to spend 2p stacks during avatar

[brave totem]

Thanks

[clever path]

and in spear

[modern badger]

either im completely thick or just a plain idiot, off the topic earlier how do i sim my self to see what else would be better sry for dumb questions, i press sim all that happens is showing potential dmg

[brave totem]

Some guy recommended a macro for rampage

[modest condor]

gonna need to see that sim

[clever path]

dont

[brave totem]

That casts bb before

[clever path]

completely unnecessary and there are situations (albeit rare) when u want to ramp first

if u lose uptime on boss and enrage falls off

and u want to rampage

cause u dont want to send an unenraged bb

[brave totem]

What about the macro

Is it usefull

It confused me a lot

One button casting bb and rampage

I get that i don accidentaly skip bb with this macro but its little confusing

[clever path]

as i said

[clever path]

.

[brave totem]

Oh i thoughr u said that about rampage > bb in that case

Alright thanks man

[clever path]

it is

if u are not enraged

u want to ramp first

unenraged bb with the 2p buff is yikes

[brave totem]

Yeah ofc

[hardy isle]

I'm probably being dumb but you couldn't macro enrage & bb anyway if they're both on GCD surely?

[clever path]

u can

/cast bloodbath
/cast rampage

it casts bloodbath if it can

otherwise rampage

[warm crag]

i assume you mean rampage and you can because you don't know the bloodbath spell until you have a stack of reckless abandon

[clever path]

yeah that

[warm crag]

otherwise you're right you can't have two on gcd spells macroed

[modern badger]

Any help here guys my wow eu armory page says im on 38% haste but in game only saying 31% ....

[warm crag]

armory is inaccurate

[modern badger]

Ahhh cause im sat at 31% but someone said even this is high haste, i was trying to sim my character but it doesnt change any of the enchants, gems etc if i select multiple it just stays the same with what i have... is this because im currently using the best set up?

[warm crag]

did you click the replace gems & enchants checkbox

[meager void]

link sim

but yeah, 31% is higher than what 485+ ilvl geared warriors get as suggestion from simc

[modern badger]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2gQq3rPLeQ7u7RwuE3Jx36

that is what it came back as i did chose some different enchants and gems etc unless ive missed a box

[warm crag]

yeah you didnt click replace gems and enchants probably

[warm crag]

i have 32%

[meager void]

my anecdotal experience is 25-26%
but its that, anecdotes.

we follow robot

[clever path]

you didnt tick this box

replace existing gems and enchants

[modern badger]

Ahhh ok so i chose the gems that id like to see on gear and also click this box

thanks alot

[meager void]

and your food/phial is funky too

for phial, vers is best regardless of content. There's a case for corrupting if you are alchemist

for food, just go mainstat

[modern badger]

ive been using tepids atm with ceru food

[clever path]

corrupting rage is the best one unless your RL sees you dying to it in logs

[warm crag]

set this in the settings then

[meager void]

your sim is using rage phial and thousandbone food

[modern badger]

oh damn haha as you can see im a novice with thsi

this

[meager void]

argueable. Its a little more dps but you lose all vers

[clever path]

(he wont)

still

during prog vers is better

[warm crag]

corrupting is better for reclear after prog is over

[meager void]

the "replace gems/enchants" allows you to choose multiple types of gems/enchants and the robot shows dps sim for each combo

[modern badger]

ahhhh great stuff thanks dread, and where exactly do i change the food/phial options ?

[clever path]

at the bottom

[meager void]

the real choices for furry are purple, blue and maybe green gems and any of the ring enchants (tho mast is probably better and difference is miniscule here)

[meager void]

tbf tho, its all overkill. Gemming choice problaby affects 1k dps overall

[lunar cape]

Stats from secondary foods are simming better. Should look into that

[clever path]

this is arms

as fury im using cerulean

mast vers

[meager void]

im sure I checked recently for myself, will do that again tho.

Sim string for consumables:
#arms message

[lunar cape]

Are you really simming better with 75 str over 134 secondaries?

[unreal onyx]

my sim is better with the vers/mast food than ms

[wild mural]

10k for a belt craft at 463

this games a joke

[clever belfry]

shit crafter

[wild mural]

real

[unreal onyx]

real

[nimble kraken]

While I’m short on rage for rampage, I have execute light up. What’s the priority order for bloodthirst(unempowered), slam, execute, or whirlwind in a single target fight

[eternal sundial]

Extend ashen>Bt>execute>slam>ww

[nimble kraken]

Might be a stupid question, what’s extend ashen? Is that tied to the trinket

[eternal sundial]

Ashen juggernaut

If you were to drop it it you dont execute it's #1 priority

[wild mural]

ashen wake

[nimble kraken]

Oh I’ve always specced the talent but never leaned into its effect

Alright, will look into a weakaura to let me see the uptime on that

Execute always feels janky in the rotation to me, don’t know if it’s the cd/cast time delay

[eternal sundial]

Nah it's a vibe for fury

BB exe bt ramp

Just loop

And if u need to dump tier u just BB exe ramp

[unreal onyx]

AD with simp comp goes hard

[sour frigate]

I need one too

[unreal onyx]

should've invited a mw for ultimate

[pulsar prawn]

how was reflect rng?

[unreal onyx]

I reflected literally nothing

all got kicked or wasn't targeted at me

leggo was 8% overall, nm augury was 5.5%

[meager void]

given this adv sim for food choice:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/d2FxprGahE4f87kS3Wo6py
(with 2xhissing and tepid vers)

would you go with robot or go mast/vers (great cerulean)?

[unreal onyx]

was only a AD20 anyway

[meager gyro]

That rdruid was throwing, should easily be 90k

[unreal onyx]

idk, that druid was like 3.45k io

dh tank was 3.55k

[clever path]

Everyone probably was doing weekly and chilling

Drinking beer

[coarse adder]

todays mindset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxrors5H10g

[light stump]

I have 8 catalyst charges, but no heroic gear - what's the best way to get heroic gear? Or just mythics and raid?

[coarse adder]

just do mythics and convert

do 18+ x8 everyweek for that shiz

[sour frigate]

I thought if u play warrior u either metalhead or some industrial stuff listener

[light stump]

I don‘t have 4pc yet, worth converting 2x lower items for now?

[violet condor]

is there a reason why sometimes odyns fury gets you out of entangled and other times it doesnt? just a bug or something?

[unreal onyx]

if you still have avatar applied

you won't get out

[violet condor]

oh

[unreal onyx]

you only get out when applying avatar

[violet condor]

i see

[unreal onyx]

same principle on tindral roots

[coarse adder]

Fury is all about pure unadulterated violence

[sour frigate]

Literally this
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=MNOekGmY_6A&si=6sVMcb3G6xlp9S8D

[supple estuary]

Is anyone else missing a load of transmogs since the reset? They show up in my collection but dont show up at the transmog NPC

[fringe flame]

About how long does it take for Signet Brand to hit max stacks? I'm wondering how short of a fight until I swap it for a Might of the Ocean

[past pivot]

4 minutes or so, on average

[sage smelt]

Phish and EDM for me 👍

[coarse adder]

To each their own so much electric is not for me though haha. Not saying its bad or not violence but its not my kind.

[covert blaze]

I'm a hard techno enjoyer

[coarse adder]

I hate techo personally lol but thats the great thing about music everyones got something.

[oblique trail]

Psytrance sometimes too

[covert blaze]

so true bestie

[fleet cargo]

İm a beach boy .. lovin deep house ^^

Whats the genre of this ?

[jade cipher]

guys out of curiosity

raging blow talents are nullified when u go for annihlator?

[sullen basin]

is there a reason crafters refuse to use illustrious insight even for guildies without being paid like 100 million gold

[jade cipher]

like hack and slash

[past pivot]

Laziness/greed/ignorance

[sullen basin]

it doesn't cost 5k gold for 50 mettle thats for sure

I got fucking 76 insight's worth of mettle stored and you get 3 free a week

is thicket easy I ain't been

[restive marten]

Looking for tips and tricks for mythic Fyrakk. Who's got some.

[eternal sundial]

critcake kill video

[sullen basin]

is 40 40 30 30 actually good or is it a scam

[eternal sundial]

try get that on arms

definitely possible

[sullen basin]

so its not about fury? 😦

what do we like, like 10 20 40 30 or something

wait how the fuck did you get 140%

[sullen basin]

just did a public one and got it done instantly max rank EZ Clap

[eternal sundial]

dont care

i just sim for fury

[past pivot]

You should know those numbers mean nothing by themselves. It's all about gear, Everyone is different.

[sullen basin]

wowhead overall bis list I'm missing like 1 item off it and its augury

feelsbadman

i got branch + might

and brand

[inner zinc]

I can make decent money making alloy. So when i charge people for my insight, i charge them for a part of the money i would have made

[polar trail]

There’s professions that can make up to 10k profit per illustrous insight

I’ve made millions on converting mettle into 3* shadowflame patches on my 2 leatherworkers for minimal effort in season 2

So I don’t make lw stuff for my guildies for free, I lose a lot of profit if I do

[eternal sundial]

surely you have everything at mythic ilvl

its only BIS at that ilvl

[sullen basin]

no 😦 483 only

i have had maybe 5 weeks of mythic dungeon vault at myth track with socket from 3

[past pivot]

The wowhead list is a guide of stuff to aim for, not what you need to have. Ilvl, sockets and item bonuses all have impacts. BIS in itself is a misnomer.

[patent hinge]

hey gona craft some gear ( rings and things ) what stat i craft what are stats for war fury pls .

?

[past pivot]

In fact, iirc, the wowhead list is below the maxed St sims for some folks now.

[past pivot]

You can sim it if you want to be sure. Otherwise, mastery/vers for fury is a safe bet. If you also play Arms, might want something like mastery/crit.

[sullen basin]

with my gear i sim 220k, and with my skill i play like 180-190

feels sadge man

[worldly shard]

ass

wouldve been alright week1

took socket lol

[young swan]

holy fuck thats cursed

[past pivot]

How did you get a socket from 3 vault items? That's half a socket

[young swan]

its a full socket

[fickle bluff]

[past pivot]

It is?

[young swan]

it is

i learned semi recently you dont even need 3 in a specific category

just 3 in general

[past pivot]

I thought it was 6. lol

[young swan]

think it changed going from SL -> Df

but yeah i didnt realize until like halfway through last season

[oblique trail]

Xan moment

[gilded stratus]

Oof

[unreal onyx]

decrease tier possibility in vault

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[indigo quarry]

🧑🏻‍🦽

[eternal sundial]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑

[dapper goblet]

its motorized noob

fix it

[indigo quarry]

i cant

its discord issued emtoe

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

?

[indigo quarry]

i'm not motorized

i'm Arms

[dapper goblet]

arms > fury

bean sayin it

[indigo quarry]

next xpac

for sure

[dapper goblet]

i'll be playing arms from now on

(Until fated)

[indigo quarry]

you betrayed us by rerolling

[dapper goblet]

does it count if i played it on sark prog

[indigo quarry]

it do count