fury

[past pivot]

Central Texas style. Nice. 👍🏼

[hardy shuttle]

In general it's like bt/bb every other gcd. Ww is available pretty much right after you used up all it's stacks.

So it's either rampage or slam for the other gcds depending on rage. Not mentioning odyns and roar just basic skills

[silent burrow]

We can't ship YET. I need to work on the shipping part tbh. I know what I need to do I'm just scared lol

[silent burrow]

Yeah tons of inspiration from the Austin and DFW areas. We have made friends with some of the guys in the top 10 of the Texas monthly, going down there and basically doing bbq tours for market research

Kind of self serving cause we get to just eat the best bbq on the planet lol

[plucky ice]

bros, it only took 10 weeks

[silent burrow]

Now you get to do the next crappy part, making it haha

[plucky ice]

true

[gilded pawn]

how busy are yall tehse days?

[silent burrow]

We work on it every day, but we also still have full time jobs

[low folio]

@silent burrow tysm

[tidal kindle]

Yah but do you have Aug-or-Ree

[shrewd swallow]

Smoke rings on point man!!!

[silent burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-secret-handshake-gif-24763988

[gilded pawn]

oh i see

yall are doing this as a side gig

[silent burrow]

Oh yeah, we cook everything on our 500 gallon offset, that bark is fiya

[gilded pawn]

but tring to convering into full time?

[silent burrow]

Yep. Trying to build it to where it can support us full time but it'll be a transition for us one at a time as we grow

[sour badger]

Guys. I’m currently lvl 31 and struggling doing more damage that others. Exceptionally against healers who are top dps all the time

Is there a way to track it somehow

[silent burrow]

That's just wonky leveling damage, it means nothing

[sour badger]

So I can show you

[gilded pawn]

healer is amazing at doing damage during levelling

[gilded pawn]

you dont know the twink meta

[oblique trail]

lvl 10 mistweaver speedrun moment

[plucky ice]

normal only

[sour badger]

Ah… so it’s ok?

[oblique trail]

My best is still the LFR Augury I bought for 100k 4 weeks ago

[gilded pawn]

its okay

[oblique trail]

That I've used like 10 times in keys

[sour badger]

Because I’m building rage and rampaging with all I can

Execute whenever I can

[oblique trail]

I really wouldn't worry about your damage when leveling, especially in dungeons

The scaling is very janky, and you don't have access to all of your talents and abilities yet that you'd have at max level

You could theoretically be playing as if you're the best player at said spec but be instantly out dps'd by someone who's lvl 10 just spamming 1 button

[sour badger]

I want to be useful but the prot warrior texted me “why you do only 50dps noob”

[oblique trail]

This sounds very unreal to me

Unless you just met the 1/10000 person who'd actually do this during leveling dungeons

[covert coyote]

The higher your level the lower your relative damage

[gilded pawn]

he could be joking too

[sour badger]

He was top dps and texted me this. And after we finished the dungeon he asked what lvl you are

[oblique trail]

?

They can see your level without asking it

[covert coyote]

A level 10 tank / healer will usually be top dps

[sour badger]

How to?

[oblique trail]

By just hovering over someone

Or targeting them

[sour badger]

Oh right

Damn I didn’t notice it before

[oblique trail]

The reason why it sounds unreal is because in my 15 years or w/e playing wow, I've met this kind of person a handful of times

Who actually cares about someones performance during leveling

[eternal sundial]

the little textbox (aka tooltip) will also show guild name iirc

[oblique trail]

In any case, again I wouldn't worry about your performance while leveling at all, for the reasons stated above

Just think about enjoying the leveling experience if you are, and think about it first when you actually get to max level where it matters

[jovial coral]

Nuh uh

requires consent

[barren dagger]

I wish they added pronouns in wow

[paper ivy]

is cross realm mythic raid available now?

[warm crag]

hof isnt full yet is it

[paper ivy]

idk im asking

[warm crag]

should be next week

[paper ivy]

ok

[indigo quarry]

4 spots left

[clever path]

ye next week

most likely

[clever belfry]

ye hof shall close end of this reset :3

[gilded pawn]

dang patch is rough

[indigo quarry]

is it the slowest HOF ever ?

Sepulcher was really bad right ?

[sour frigate]

Sanctum was shit too iirc

[clever path]

yea cause everyoen quit

[indigo quarry]

5 june end of HOF for Sepulcher

March 26 first kill

10 weeks according to raider.io

[ember apex]

bro i ate a sleeve of those thin mint girl scout cookies and i feel like im gonna xplode wtf is in those

[indigo quarry]

first Fyrakk kill was 9 weeks ago

[sour frigate]

[sinful spoke]

grats

[hard widget]

@restive peak Today tindral REALLY dies

Last time was just a joke xd

[unreal onyx]

[past pivot]

Whoa. We can now be Murlocs. Even in combat.

[clever path]

surely it dies

[restive peak]

YOU GOT THIS BAE

[low folio]

gotta say, this legendary axe questline feels like it was designed by someone that doesnt know what fun is

[young swan]

correct

[split coyote]

I would like to experience the non-fun

[low folio]

no you would like to have the legendary, the questline probably shouldnt have been made at all if they were gonna make it so bad

[jovial coral]

You designed it didn't you

[gilded pawn]

no

[halcyon python]

Hey guys quick question, how is your stat breakdown for raid more or less

Or recommended

[ember apex]

@eternal sundial

he's comin hold on

[restive peak]

Man my all stars points haven't updated since Monday, ragin

[unreal onyx]

is it dead yet?

[clever path]

ofc

[sturdy wigeon]

can anyone see what im doing wrong or could do better?

[simple egret]

Hey, quick question. Guildie is having some trouble on mythic Tindral. He is using Avatar to get out of his roots, but its like, instantly reapplying the root instead of just clearing it. Is this a known bug?

[young swan]

40% crit is a lot

[young swan]

he has the avatar buff lingering from OF

only plausible explanation

[sturdy wigeon]

gonna craft rings to lower crit and increse mastery 🙂

[young swan]

u want more vers as well

prob less haste

like a lot more vers

[simple egret]

thanks 👍

[sturdy wigeon]

is it only the stats wrong?

[ember apex]

no

transmog also wrong

[young swan]

well thats the only information u provided

cant tell if ur fucking up cd's based on a damage breakdown

[subtle lagoon]

Next week for sure

[sturdy wigeon]

how do you use burst in dungeon?

[young swan]

the same way you do burst in raid

[sturdy wigeon]

im not using odyn and avatar at the same time. pop avatar recklesness and might of the ocean at the same time or recklesness enrage then avatar and might and after debuff ended then odyns?

[young swan]

a lot of dealing damage in dungeons is contingent on your tank knowing what to pull, how much to pull, and when to pull it based on group cds

[clever path]

he has to wait for avatar to end

then odyns

if u reapply avatar it doesnt break free

[young swan]

reck -> charge + ww -> rampage -> OF -> roar -> bb -> ramp -> bb + ava -> ww -> normal rotation

[clever path]

if avatar is already running and he odyns it wont break him free*

[ember apex]

NGL i like to front load my damage to snipe as much as possible, so i do reck/ava first, then OF

[sturdy wigeon]

know the debuff odyns giving need to run out so i dont overlap it 🙂

[ember apex]

if u have a fire mage in ur group, ur best bet is to snipe highest HP mob as fast as possible

havoc the goal is to reduce target count as fast as possible

[young swan]

do not listen to carlo he literally has no idea what hes talking about

[sturdy wigeon]

gonna remember that

[ember apex]

im allowed to say things

[sturdy wigeon]

:I

[young swan]

and im allowed to tell people to ignore you

[ember apex]

u wouldnt like it if we did it to u

[young swan]

dont care

stop sayign wrong shit for fun

and i wont tell people to ignore u

[ember apex]

its not even wrong

[young swan]

it literally is

[ember apex]

if u want front loaded damage u dont OF first

[restive peak]

What?

[ember apex]

u pop reck/ava first

[restive peak]

No, you always OF first

wtf is front loaded damage for in any capacity in WoW?

Like…wut

[ember apex]

if the pull is gonna last 10seconds, thats incorrect

[restive peak]

When the fuck are you doing a 10s pull where you’re concerned about CD usage

[ember apex]

15sec

doesnt matter

[restive peak]

Jesus fuckin Christ

[ember apex]

short pulls u reck/ava right away to snipe as much damage from other dps as possible

[restive peak]

Why the fuck would you care about optimizing DPS ever in trivial content? Like. What

[ember apex]

b/c its a game

and this is what fun is

to me

[young swan]

if a pull lasts 15 seconds ur just wasting damage by pressing ava first because roar and both OF dots would last their full duration

ur literally just sandbagging damage to get higher dps

[ember apex]

correct

thats the whole point of my comment

to begin with

[young swan]

i dont care if ur technically "right" its bad advice

stop giving it

[halcyon python]

How much versa mastery you suggest in raid?

[clever path]

For a second I thought you are talking about 15sec pulls in high keys

[ember apex]

it is bad advice but its achieving what i want

so its good advice

[hard widget]

not yet xd

[ember apex]

its bad for u b/c u play differently

[young swan]

yeah take a break

[flat sapphire]

man if i had augury

[halcyon python]

Bro can i see your stat breakdown?

[flat sapphire]

this is with raid buffs

and all

[halcyon python]

Thx bro

[young swan]

and enrage up

apparently

[halcyon python]

Im trying to see what to run

Of course i sim

But wanted to have an idea of breakdown

[flat sapphire]

maybe yea

I was clearing

between boss

[clever path]

this is like

frenzy + enrage

[flat sapphire]

well im dead rn cause SOMEONE DECIDED TO PULL BOSS AND KILL ME

[halcyon python]

Good moment to show me passive stats

🥸

[flat sapphire]

There you go

[halcyon python]

Noice

[flat sapphire]

I hate I couldnt get good parse on gnarlroot cause tank was lazy

and didnt take aggro on adds and let me die

[clever path]

I have same stats as you hence I think I could mythic raid but never will

[flat sapphire]

Find a guild

🙏

[tepid scroll]

Finally a tier where we have a Lego and all we are good for is padding adds 😂. Feels bad

[ebon solstice]

Is Fury AoE bad or am i just ass atthis spec?

[young swan]

we have very good burst and very bad sustain

[flat sapphire]

I wanted to say that

[ebon solstice]

like im only 477 with lego so its a little inflated but i cant even remotely compete with people at 485-487

does 10ilvl make that big of a difference?

[warm crag]

he has a phd in dps

[vapid river]

Yes

[young swan]

its like 10% damage at minimum

so yeah

[vapid river]

More if that ilvl is in trinkets and the high budget slots

Like 10ilvl on ring bracer Cloak, who gives a fuck

10 ilvl on trinket chest and legs?

That's a lot of stat

[calm swallow]

How are you at a static 65% haste what in the sam hell...

[summer quail]

He isn't

[calm swallow]

Oh didn't see the second image lmao

[flat sapphire]

I was enraged and frenzy

[calm swallow]

I think I need more vers...

[flat sapphire]

more strenght

for sure

im at 14k

what ilvl

[calm swallow]

486

[flat sapphire]

I mean just go with what you sim

[calm swallow]

I do, but where am I missing so much strength from I wonder...

[flat sapphire]

I mean I got legendary

[calm swallow]

T_T

[clever path]

[flat sapphire]

I only sim 240k so im not the best simming either

[calm swallow]

_>

I sim 226k...

[clever path]

trinkets

[vapid river]

I mean, fury

[clever path]

i have 13k as 488

no leggo

moto augury

no mainstat

vers mastery food

[calm swallow]

Augury simmed higher than branch so I stopped using that even though it had a bunch of str

[young swan]

well its literally our best trinket so i should hope so

[calm swallow]

lol

[flat sapphire]

I have only seen 2 augury drop since start of raid

[clever path]

unlucky

Can’t wait for anvil season 4

i can

i dont want to use it

• its worse than signet thanks god

[flat sapphire]

I have done normal and hc every week to get augury

still only seen 2

[past pivot]

Augury and Manic Grieftorch for S4. Early S4 at least with people dying to fated affixes

[lunar cape]

That dathea trinket in m+ with the Lego at the same time

[clever path]

S4 gonna be so meme

Can’t wait for warriors to be top dps

[somber elk]

Got it on 2 chars, not gonna get legy tho

[young swan]

if we actually get all DF dungeons we're gonna have like 0 good dungeon trinkets to use

[lunar cape]

Mirror is decent

[warm crag]

oly moly puzzle box incident

[young swan]

puzzle box

[warm crag]

its a good dungeon trinket

we don't have to talk about how fun it is tho

[young swan]

secondary proc when we're knee deep in stat DR's

very painge

[warm crag]

wdym proc

[young swan]

it proc secondary

when u use

[warm crag]

proc means rng u noober

[young swan]

no

[warm crag]

prepare for obliteration

the r in proc means random

[young swan]

is proc an acronym

holy moly

[warm crag]

ye i just made it up

[young swan]

okay ur stupid

prepare for obliteration

[warm crag]

you fool i do the obliteration not you

[lunar cape]

Isn't it programmed random occurrence?

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepeshock-pepe-zap-pepe-universe-pepeuniversenft-gif-25130731

[clever belfry]

if its programmed its not random

[warm crag]

google randomness in computer science

i dont actually know what the proper term is

[clever belfry]

pseudorandom

[warm crag]

google that

also i suppose that means that xan got obliterated as i am right

[clever belfry]

this is so true man

[clever path]

Whatever nerd

[clever belfry]

so true king

[lunar cape]

Bro I forgot that shit 10years idk what that means anymore

[sudden tusk]

imagine how many secondaries you'd have with icon+ ICE

wonder if its gonna be a Signit brand+ Guzzler

[clever path]

i aint reading all that

[upbeat sentinel]

You’re getting crimed

[cold cave]

is this any good for fury? got it from tw cache

[calm swallow]

Crimed?

[cold cave]

Simmed about 3,8k more than my other trinket

i do like my rezan trinket tho but tablet seems stronger?

[astral path]

Stronger in aoe prob

[young swan]

its gonna be augury + signet or anvil for sure

[astral path]

Unless it’s low ilvl

[pearl junco]

this has probably been asked before but i cant find it anywhere... Is it worth doing lower difficulty raids for the leggo axe or just complete the highest you can each week and call it a day?

[clever path]

icon too stronk

[lunar cape]

No oce and icon?

[modest condor]

no it's not worth to do lower difficulties

[young swan]

doubt it

[clever path]

unless we dr so hard

and we dont want anything

which i doubt but its possible

[pearl junco]

👍

[lunar cape]

Griefire could be fun too esp early on

[storm rune]

Signet+anvil is gonna go so hard I can't wait

[wary fjord]

Lego + eranog ring

Dream team

[storm rune]

Anyone off hand remember the S1 meta?

[young swan]

icon + puzzle box

[young swan]

forgetting brood ring

[wary fjord]

Both rings

Ez

[lunar cape]

Back to frostfire too then

[young swan]

actually sick stats on them too

[young swan]

shadowFLAME

we will never be using frostfire again

[sullen dove]

frostFIRE

[wary fjord]

Also, I believe the meta was storm eaters boon

[sullen dove]

by frostfire he was of course referring to the haste pants

[wary fjord]

Totally not a death trap

[lunar cape]

Wasn't the meta arms too?

[wary fjord]

I forget tbh

At first yes

Definitely

Can't remember after the tier got buffed

[young swan]

at first it was fury, once people got tier it was arms and kind of stayed arms

[wary fjord]

Ah

[young swan]

althought fury was pretty good post 10.0.5

[wary fjord]

Yeah, cause fury didn't have a tier set until 10.0.5

[lunar cape]

Oh I forgot about the onxy annulet

Let's hope they never comes back

[young swan]

didnt have a tier set post 10.0.5 either

[sullen dove]

still didn’t

[wary fjord]

It wont

Ye, but it was ilvl over tier before 10.0.5

[clever path]

wait whats the onyx annulet

i forgot

[wary fjord]

[clever path]

unironically

[sullen dove]

annulet at 515ilvl

[wary fjord]

Jesus

[sullen dove]

forbidden reach ring with damage effects

[clever path]

fuck that

[wary fjord]

Nah, bring it back, but with stats this time

[clever path]

i hate gear wiithout stats

just random procs that did infinite daamge

[wary fjord]

Make it the arcanocrystwl of dragonflight

[clever path]

especially on classes like ww

outlaw

[wary fjord]

Just gigantic stats for no reason

It's fated so who cares

[sullen dove]

gavel be like

jaithys be like

getiikku be like

[clever path]

id like to giga dr in all stats

like go

100% haste

on arms

[storm rune]

50% vers, why the fuck not

Personally I'm a huge fan of RNG procs, who needs stats when your DPS can swing by 20k based on a random event?

[sullen dove]

unbridled ferocity

[clever path]

beacon

anvil

signet

augury

wow

[slim coral]

me when I get razor coral

[sinful spoke]

guys when i update a weakaura how do i make it so it doesnt reset the placements

[storm rune]

oh there's 2 boxes to tick when updating, the second one basically asks if you want to reset the WA so you just keep that one unchecked

[sinful spoke]

so these two on top i guess

[storm rune]

I believe so? I'll be honest it's been a few weeks since I've updated any WAs so my memory is quite fuzzy on what controls what, but logically that looks right

[muted shore]

What does the asterisk mean? Low precision

[sinful spoke]

[lunar cape]

It means the robot did it's simple test and said fuck that and stop trying it

[clever path]

ass profile so it didnt even bother

[muted shore]

Ah i see so basically this variations is so annoying to sim it just decided to die

[clever path]

ye

[storm rune]

oof dude I am sorry

[sinful spoke]

time to reset everything

[slim coral]

copium

[hardy cargo]

Do you have the anchors weakaura

If it’s all in the middle of your screen like that I presume not

[fallen lava]

When does mastery get diminishing return? 60% unbuffed (without runes)?

[slim coral]

never

go full 100percent mastery baby

[clever path]

600% at least

[pearl junco]

what kind of dps should i be expecting at 485 ilvl with no leggo? cause i feel like i should be higher than what i am

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[sinful spoke]

what WA

please hook me up

[hardy cargo]

Liquid anchors

Not at pc rn but you can look that up

Has anchors for all of it

(Not my personal favorite placement of all that shit) but

[hearty surge]

Reloes anchor weak aura, its listed in the raid weakaura comment

[hardy cargo]

Oh wait my rl had it posted in our WA channel

https://wago.io/LiquidAnchors

[hearty surge]

the anchor weakaura is literally there so you can adjust that

[hardy cargo]

No the weakauras you can move on their own the anchors make it so it’s not like his screenshot

And does it for you

But the way it does it is not my personal favorite, of course you can move them

[hearty surge]

Yes and surprise if you adjust the anchor weakaura you can have it at any place you want

And you don't have to do it ever again

Adjusts everything

[hardy cargo]

Yeah why do you think I’m recommending it to him lol

I mean what’s the problem with me interjecting the way it’s originally placed I don’t like

I never said you cant move them just that you can accomplish it without liquid anchor

[hearty surge]

It sounded like you didn't like the place the anchor weakaura places your things

And I said you can adjust it

That's all

[hardy cargo]

Yes that is what I said, but you typed it like you were calling me a dumbass with the whole comment saying “surprise” and saying something I didn’t know

Like what’s your gotcha there

[sinful spoke]

ty

[hearty surge]

Nah that was for the guy who asked and didn't know

[hardy cargo]

Ah ok

Text is very bad at conveying emotion and meaning

I misunderstand what u we’re saying my b

[hearty surge]

gotcha

[hardy cargo]

🫡

[storm rune]

Isn't that poe's law or something? Anything that can be miscontrued through text eventually will be

[hearty surge]

Only thing I get in poe are Russians dming me on the website In Russian that they want to buy smth

Turns out some guy wanted to buy an axe I had like 7 leagues ago

[storm rune]

1 exalt, no equivalent trade, I know what it's worth

[hardy cargo]

The only thing I know about poe is that stream clip of that one guy getting the extremely rare chase item that dropped 2 at once

Mirror? Or something? I forget the name of it

[storm rune]

Never saw the clip but mirror is 100% the rarest drop

[hearty surge]

Have you played this league

[hardy cargo]

Yeah he got 2 asmon made a video of it

[hearty surge]

Guy in my guild looted 4 mirrors this league

Both duplicated

[storm rune]

jfc

People be out here paying their tuition fees through sheer luck

[hearty surge]

It wasnt THAT rare this league

if you ran juiced maps

Yeh, still the rarest item but

way more obtainable than before

[covert blaze]

How much does that sell for

[hearty surge]

A mirror is like 70 Euros

[sinful spoke]

@hardy cargois it all at once or can i move each kind of weakaura separately

cuz this is still kinda messy

[warm crag]

why are you listing standard items publically

are remove only tabs public or

[sinful spoke]

actually nvm

[hardy cargo]

U can move them all separately in the og liquid pack, at least that’s how I do it

[sinful spoke]

yeah

ty

[hardy cargo]

I disable most of the liquid auras and have my own way of tracking most everything the liquid pack tracks

[sinful spoke]

yeah i feel like i got too many W/A that do the same shit

???

3 WA i have keep track of that fyrakk intermission shit

[hard widget]

@restive peak We didnt kill it

But MDI time now 😄

[clever path]

voodoo

real

[restive peak]

Brooooo you warrior or dh for MDI?

[hard widget]

Warrior

[sudden tusk]

arms for mass aoe isnt too bad tbh

esp when you dont have to play defense trinkets

[restive peak]

Sickkkkk

[eternal sundial]

its rise in timetrials

easy arms key

[hearty surge]

Bro I havent logged into the game for 3 leagues

I have no idea what is listed and what isnt

[storm rune]

Is it possible to mitigate circumstances around low rage situation where you have OF buffed BT's and not having to waste the proc on a non ramp buffed BT?

[eternal sundial]

enhance shaman does that

good reck procs also do that

[storm rune]

So just a hope for the best kinda thing? I assume going out of your way to WW-Slam-Ramp instead of BT is an awful idea with how likely you are to rage starve yourself in the next rotation

[eternal sundial]

pressing the buffed bt is better than pressing nothing

[storm rune]

Yeah and anything other than BT every second GCD is gonna lead to a pressing nothing situation

at some point

Aight cool, just had to talk it out to make sure

[sleek parrot]

do you guys just macro might of the ocean into reck, any downside to it?

[hard widget]

Yeha im blasting in first area 😄

[clever path]

In mdi can you swap specs on the same class

[whole tiger]

i have a couple of question about embellishments if someone has time to help me it would be greatly appreciated

[misty helm]

How long do character transfers take to show up

[past pivot]

Ask away in this channel. Or search. It's probably been asked before. You can sim them in gear compare or droptimizer

[past pivot]

Depends. 15 minutes to a day

[whole tiger]

so i used to run with the vers wrists and shadowflame cloak in the beginning of the season but my friend told me to swap cloak for lariat but when i sim it now lariat is like 1.5k uppgrade and the frostfire legs are 10k-11k depending on stats

[past pivot]

Lariat is more for M+ if you have full sockets And it's a minor upgrade. No idea about legs. Simming for M+ is always a guess no matter how you do it.

[whole tiger]

yea im only playing m+

[storm rune]

What's your haste looking like?

[misty helm]

Playing fury for strictly m+ is insanity to me

[whole tiger]

yea i know

i swap arms from time to time

but rn feeling the fury

and my haste is at like 28%

[summer quail]

ngl i think arms is just better for m+ after the latest buff. need to know where to pop defensives for higher keys when it comes to arms tho

[whole tiger]

but i havent gotten the axe from fyrakk yet

[past pivot]

Better dps IF you live, you mean

[whole tiger]

yea but what embellishment do you play on arms?

[past pivot]

#arms

[summer quail]

ye but if you know what you're doing you should be fine. arms still pretty tanky, just not fury tanky but that's a tall order

[whole tiger]

okey but what embellishment are u guys playing on your fury warr rn?

[past pivot]

Arms and Fury sim pretty close for me and I know fury better so staying put for now

[misty helm]

I think its the exact same as fury for arms

[summer quail]

i'm playing allied wrist and shadowflame cloak

[misty helm]

same embellishments

[whole tiger]

do you have the axe? @summer quail

[summer quail]

yes

[whole tiger]

my friend told me lariat is really good paired with axe so idunno

[past pivot]

Lariat has nothing do to with the axe

[crude ridge]

Seeing some mixed info.... Bloodcraze/Dancing blades vs Slaughtering strikes/TR for low 20s?

[summer quail]

always dancing blades

[sullen dove]

db more ethical and most likely to be more damage anyway but i mean if u wanna tr whatever not that big a deal in those keys

dont think bloodcraze matters as much cuz youre expected to crit more often on multiple target

so ss i guess

or like idk massacre or something if u want more filler globals

[clever path]

its really really hard to live in 30s tho

[covert blaze]

Always use dancing blades

bc vs ss is not very significant either way

[crude ridge]

alrighty, cool, ty

[thick elbow]

Do you think we will be able to buy the leggo in the fated patch or how it might work

[past pivot]

Maybe. We'll know in about 10 weeks

[sullen dove]

cant imagine its any different to hunter bow

in which case you still needed to get the bow on your own, and you buy an upgrade to fated ilvl bracket with a dinar

[steel rapids]

What do you guys use to sim?

Ask Mr Robot any good?

[past pivot]

Only if you go back like 15 years

raidbots.com

And simcraft

[steel rapids]

LOL! Thanks

[frank dawn]

Oh man ask Mr robot

https://tenor.com/view/theres-a-name-ive-not-heard-in-many-years-gif-25204373

[past pivot]

Let's jump on ventrillo and discuss

[arctic salmon]

hit me up on mIRC!!

[frank dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/memories-frankie-gif-12891533

[storm rune]

Less than three, you love me
Typing out my fantasy
Meet me here on IRC
L-O-L-O-L

[past pivot]

Have to check out Elitist Jerks' website and see what they think of the new tier set coming out this spring ...

[storm rune]

Man am I glad EJ is gone, that place was like if 4chan had no self awareness

[past pivot]

lol so true.

Ion and his smarmy shaman attitude toward Alliance and pallies

[rapid bloom]

If an ability causes you to enrage, does it also benefit from the damage bonus

[summer quail]

depends on the ability. for rampage yes, for bloodthirst and onslaught no

also yes for odyns fury if you run titanic rage

[rapid bloom]

thanks! thats perfect

[dense elbow]

Smolderon enjoyers, what DPS ya feel is ok to sit around at pre-last set of rings and orbs in yer experience?

[orchid iron]

boys I'm doing something wrong and Im running out of patience. Im 486 (no axe), used to parse purple/orange in SL heroic and took a break, been back a couple months and after ~4 weeks of mythic raiding im parsing gray, doing like 170k to volcoross.

[storm rune]

got logs?

[dense elbow]

logs, bring them to #449510248579858432 and we will take a look and break it down what goes wrong (if anything)

[orchid iron]

just need like the hyperlink?

[dense elbow]

yep, just paste it in there

then write a short "I need help to find out why my dps is bad" or the like, to narrow your feedback

somebody usually takes a look, and grants some sage advice

[orchid iron]

thank you

[dense elbow]

No worries, hope ya get any issues solved in good order

[modest condor]

onslaught yes as well

[summer quail]

wait rly? i swear i tested this

[modest condor]

onslaught has "always" enraged before damage (it didnt in beta but got fixed before live)

[summer quail]

ah ye just tested again, you're right. mb

[dense elbow]

Even if the tooltip says it shouldnt give 3 stacks of SS, it still does classic blizz

[edgy widget]

I had to fight so hard for that one lol

Enrage uptime is really good regardless, but it would be so much clunkier

[meager void]

Hey 😦 EJ was institution before disc was a thing. What we now do here, we used to do there.

[vernal glen]

When is the next mage tower?

[meager void]

I know its like missing gamefaqs.com given all the advancement since then

but hey, gamefaqs.com ruled

[sinful spoke]

does anyone have a WA that tracks just enrage?

[slim coral]

well Hof is offically over

still techincally open but imo only first 200 really count

[past pivot]

Get the glyph that sets you on fire

[sinful spoke]

bro

with the amount of shit happening

[clever path]

u can make one from a preset

takes like 20 seconds or just take one from wago

[broken sinew]

Hi any advise how to include lego skill in the rotation?

[sinful spoke]

ty

i just yoinked one

ezpz

[past pivot]

Pins

[clever path]

ez

[scarlet swift]

Am I just an old man? Who's unironically buying this crap for its looks?

Basically its a moonguard coin sink attempt?

[past pivot]

Yes, don't take that to transmog channel.

[scarlet swift]

The whole month is dedicated to RP? What about the rest of us normies?

[steel rapids]

What do you guys think of Iced Phial of Corrupting Rage? Will i need to watch my health when using it in a m+?

[past pivot]

No yolo. duh

[clever path]

should prob get the alchemy thing

[upbeat sentinel]

stack leech enchants and prosper

[past pivot]

But seriously, why not run tepid? Guess no leggo? Or are you doing low keys?

[clever path]

that reduces damage taken

crit phial is fine until very high keys

[steel rapids]

No leggo and 20+ keys

[upbeat sentinel]

I run Tepid without Lego just because it's a lot fuckin easier

no up/down time stuff

[steel rapids]

Raidbots is saying my dps will be higher if i go with Corrupting Rage

[tawny sphinx]

is it worth it to use Fyr'alath during your cooldowns, or do you wait and use it solo

[past pivot]

You do beat out my slutty school voidgirl attempt so props to you on that.

[edgy widget]

You got 11 other months, lmao

[upbeat sentinel]

They bring back the witchdoctor thing yet

[past pivot]

If you live. More work for the healer possibly. And simming for M+ is always guesswork. But if it works for you and your team, go for it. Depends on the key and team

[scarlet swift]

No Legendo, No Good Mog

[upbeat sentinel]

Pieces? for nondegen reasons obviously

[gray nexus]

mythic tindral down

[past pivot]

grats

[balmy shore]

i bought it because it's cute

i bought a ton of the valentines stuff

[balmy shore]

gz!!

[past pivot]

Forsaken Kyrian helm and boots from Korthia, Void elf heritage chest, in-game dark variant of skirt, shoulders and gloves, leggo with void edge illusion. OH is Necromedes, the Death Resonator, also with void edge illusion.

[gray nexus]

got the belt too 👏

[dapper goblet]

fuck the trading post items

i need THE LOVE ROCKET

[past pivot]

I'll get the leggo before I get the love rocket! oops, wait. I did. n/m Well, my ret rat will probably get the leggo before the love rocket

Ratadin

[sudden tusk]

ill break your heart

[past pivot]

Does it carry your leggo?

[sudden tusk]

ya

[gray nexus]

I got the love rocket back in the day, i verbally screamed

2017

[sudden tusk]

i got horeseman too

just ran it on 7 chars a day during the event

[upbeat sentinel]

retardadin?

[dapper goblet]

voodoo upon u

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-witch-doctor-mano-tiki-tia-gif-15319797

[half cargo]

🧎‍♂️

[sudden tusk]

arise chicken

chicken arise

[balmy shore]

why not both

[lavish seal]

sum1 run keyz wit me

[scarlet swift]

aint no way you want 2 warriors in 1 run

[lavish seal]

i do

[balmy shore]

i feel so behind on mounts starting in SL lmfao

[past pivot]

1. We all come from NA, EU and OCE here and you don't mention a region or server 2) We don't know your key level or IO. 3) You might talk in chat like that spelling so we'd need a 7-year-old to translate.

[modest condor]

why not? giga tanky and unless you're doing +28 keys you dont need more dps

[lavish seal]

-10 keys

[lavish seal]

can you find a 7 year old to translate, i'll wait for u kandi

[storm rune]

oh man the nostalgia, people writing out 20,000 word novels detailing precisely how to 100% some video game from the 90s for the pure love of the game

[sharp tartan]

I've been a bit of a sheep and just used avoidance enchants all expansion so far. Guild are now progressing mythic smolderon. I'm staying in a world in flames ring during cd/damage amp and self healing with enraged regen. Has anyone else swapped to leach on bracers and cloak and did it make much difference?

[sinful spoke]

FINALLY

[lavish seal]

LES GO BABY

[amber arch]

what would you guys use for M+?

[warm crag]

crab might probably

sell your soul for augury

[past pivot]

Augury and Might are BIS. In that group, Might and Crab

[amber arch]

ya thats what I had been using, then started running 22s and was thinking that the signet uptime would be better with long boss fights

[past pivot]

But still have trash

[amber arch]

how long does it take to ramp?

[past pivot]

Like 5 minutes iirc

[oblique trail]

Depends on your rng

But on average after about 3-4 minutes it's stacked

Issue is just keeping it up through the dungeon

[past pivot]

It takes a while to get going at least. Spiteful is good for it. But Crab is just solid. Or get an Ember until Augury

[clever path]

smoldy is dead, no signet

[upbeat sentinel]

9 year old me with the Kingdom Hearts guide book

[wet wren]

is it worth taking signet for tyran?

[sullen dove]

only if ur fine with hard playing around staying in combat to not let it drop

[past pivot]

Not if you have Augury. Probably not if you have Might.

[wet wren]

yeah thats waht I was thinking

I have both

actually

no might

been running hero augury and signet

think its worth to grind out a might then?

[past pivot]

You run M+ without Might??

[wet wren]

havent had one drop hero

[past pivot]

Augury and Might are BIS for M+. Yes, Run ToT till your eyes bleed

[wet wren]

sadge

I know what im doing today

[past pivot]

g/l

[young swan]

signet can work if u just never drop combat

but otherwise yeah

might goated

[wet wren]

yeah I had a guild group all running signet and we just pulled around it

did crazy damage

[young swan]

in that case signet would be better

[past pivot]

You say "had" a guild group. Past tense.

[wet wren]

Still got the group

just dungeon is over

[past pivot]

Ah. If that's all you run with, then yeah, Signet can be better if y'all play around it. You have Augury.

[wet wren]

so if we were to rank pulling around signet, augry and might

[past pivot]

If you ever change groups or pug, Might is the play

Yes

[wet wren]

1. augry 2) signet 3) might?

if not playing around signet then 1) augry 2) might 3) signet?

[past pivot]

Augury + Might. For most, they don't have Augury. Ember/Crab or Gore are the next best choices as most don't have a group to play around Signet

[modest condor]

i would use signet instead of augury in runs where you can keep it up, not instead of might

[past pivot]

he doesn't have a Might

yet

[wet wren]

yeah

I got signet and augry

which is funny bc thats the shit everyone is chancing, where I have them chacing the ones everyone has lmao

[modest condor]

oh i read his message as being a priority in trinket strength

[past pivot]

He has a unique case. Has an Augury and a group that plays around Signet stacks. And he doesn't have a Might. Opposite of 98% of the warrior base lol

[wet wren]

but assuming I get a mightand a group to play around signet you think signet and might > signet and augry?

[modest condor]

yeah

[past pivot]

I'd compare Augury + Might against Signet + Might.

[modest condor]

having an on use to line up with your cooldowns is very valuable in m+

getting that big mainstat buff on your roar

[wet wren]

yeah valid

augry is doing like 9% of my damage rn so hard to imagine anything beating that

but ill take ur word for it and grind this out

[past pivot]

Signet would likely win if y'all play around it but would be an interesting test to see in back-to-back keys

[modest condor]

uhhh

9% sounds a bit extreme

mine usually does around 4-5% in m+

[past pivot]

Augury pumps hard for me too. like 5-7% but I've seen it higher

[wet wren]

is yours hero?

[past pivot]

489

[wet wren]

hm

[sullen dove]

augury also does higher % damage if you yourself do less damage..

usually

[wet wren]

maight be doing something wrong then

this is my first season ive actually tried tho, been pretty casual prior to this season

[modest condor]

in a run with really good rng it'll hit 6%, but the only times ive had it do 9% of my damage was back when i was still gearin up

[wet wren]

so still figuring some shit out

im almost 485 so im for sure geared to the point it shouldnt be doing that much

let me go hit the dummies real quick , ill report back

[past pivot]

dummies aren't trash, won't be the same results as MT

unless they changed how they work.

[sullen dove]

i mean... unless you sim full raid buffs they're pretty dam similar

like dummies wont go into execute but its not like you get insane dps from execute range

[past pivot]

Hitting the dummies and checking details? Same as doing a key?

[sullen dove]

can just set it to dummy mode instead of patchwerk anyway

i assumed you were talkin bout a sim

[wet wren]

half through hitting dummies I remembered that logs exist

[open dune]

did they stealth nerf fury in pvp

[past pivot]

#pvp

[wet wren]

yeah ok just checked logs and its doing 5% of volc, maybe I just remember it wrong

might have procced at the start of a pull and I remember it being crazy

still feel like im doing something wrong tho, only getting green ilevel parses

[past pivot]

Parses in keys?

[wet wren]

nah looking at raid now

logging keys seems kinda pointless

[young swan]

you would be correct

unless if ur testing specific things

[modest condor]

logging keys isnt pointless

there's a lot to learn from m+ logs

like how much % of your damage was from augury

[wet wren]

true

ill see if any recent keys have been logged

[sinful spoke]

@crimson briar tswift kill

[wet wren]

yeah doing 6% in keys

[sinful spoke]

[crimson briar]

big dog

Im arms this fight until I get augury tho

so :^0

[sinful spoke]

💀

[wet wren]

corrupting rage vs tepid vers, ive seen different guides say different things

[sinful spoke]

Vers

[wet wren]

yeah I thought so, from what ive seen crit is pretty useless for us

[hardy cargo]

the difference between the two is pretty big assuming good uptime. but vers cheaper and consistent so me likely vers more

crit isnt bad

[balmy shore]

VERS GANG VERS GANG

[wet wren]

all I needed to hear

[clever path]

Rage bad

It turns you into shrek

For a few

Literally unplayable

[open dune]

I love your banner, can I steal it

[balmy shore]

i stole it off google 😅

[fallow adder]

did anyone else log in today with a random additional stance bar dead in the middle of your action bars, overlapping ?

[wet wren]

still just trying to see where im going wrong, pretty consistently getting green ilvel parses on heroic

[open dune]

say less

what did you google LOL

[young swan]

fury warrior bongo cat should work on tenor

at least it did back when i used it..

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-bongo-cat-warrior-gif-27388603

that's an odd one

[oblique trail]

Pretty sure that's Sepulcher era

Or something like that

[glacial path]

what spec is better in the raid currently?

[sharp tartan]

This one ❤️

[hardy cargo]

both good play what you enjoy more

[sharp tartan]

But really, play Fury, it's ahead on most bosses

[edgy widget]

I think at this point, you can make a strong enough argument for Arms as well; Fury is still generally better for Tindral, but most groups should be flexible enough to accomodate

and Igiria, but nobody cares about that fight

[final birch]

First 6 are irrelevant

Fyrakk is whatever your comp needs more, adds or boss dam

tindral yeah I also think that fury has the edge there

[oblique trail]

Both Arms and Fury can do good damage to boss and adds on Fyrakk

[final birch]

yeah I mean obviously but one will do a bit more of one or the other

[oblique trail]

I've seen pretty comparable damage in some, albeit very few, Arms logs that are public

[final birch]

taiste topped overall dam in his arms log

[edgy widget]

well that kinda depends on your prog, there's always someone else who is just starting

[primal plover]

how do I sim whether to use the legendary or not? is there a way to do such?

[edgy widget]

you can manipulate the APL, but you don't need to - you should use the legendary

there's some info in the pins

[final birch]

sure but if they're starting then swapping to different spec might not be the best approach if they're not feeling good or comfortable enough on it

[ruby current]

the fact that you can often go 10 seconds pressing the same rampage/bt macro over and over gives you plenty of time to learn the fight too 🙂

[edgy widget]

I mean... maybe, but that information wasn't posited so it'd be an odd assumption

[final birch]

I myself am a new player and I wouldn't change to fury for raid

[edgy widget]

also didn't mean they were a new player to the game, only that they were just starting mythic prog

[final birch]

I guess, but it's pretty close for both specs in all aspects on first 6 I'm guessing

Only igira spears maybe fury has the edge

[edgy widget]

it is, which is why I said you could argue Arms is fine now... except Fury still has an advantage on Tindral (which can be compensated), and Igiria (though spears don't really matter)

[inner pine]

I saw some guides say I need 30%+ haste ish

but getting more haste via gems etc doesnt seem to sim better for me

how come?

here's my unbuffed stats

[young swan]

because you dont "need" 30% haste

sims just generally like around that number

basically if you cant get to x breakpoint, haste wont be all that valuable

[inner pine]

alright, sort of like ARP in wrath I suppose

man finding crafters at night/early morning is not fun

[open dune]

sorry bout the ping but couldnt find it 😭

nvm I found it

LETS GOO

TWINZIES

[olive wraith]

That’s a lot of vers

[sullen dove]

11% crit

[tepid silo]

I've just recently started learning fury for this patch and I was wondering what is going on with Bloodcraze vs. Slaughtering Strikes for M+? Bloodcraze seems like it would bring so much value but everything I've seen takes Slaughtering Strikes instead.
Again, I'm new so I'm probably just misunderstanding something but I figured I'd ask.

[sullen dove]

bloodcraze gets slightly less valuable on aoe cuz any one single bt can crit on 5 targets when it cleaves

not sure if that consumes any stacks, it probably does, but basically youre way more likely to get bt to crit on anything

and itll still apply the cdr

its still ok for like bosses and stuff but just not as necessary

but like the free idk 4-6% damage on rampage that cleaves kinda gets a little better with aoe

[tepid silo]

Okay, thank you

[summer quail]

it does

bloodcraze isn't bad on like 2 target tho. prob not that bad on 3 either

[mighty wren]

Does anyone know/have a link to something that has the info on how exactly does the legendary work right now, with all the buffs, nerfs and fixes in the past weeks?

It's really hard to get a comprehensive picture about of it...

[paper ivy]

.

[sullen dove]

.

[wispy thistle]

@inner pine your sim is likely starved for crit, 11% is very low

[inner pine]

seems so

[mighty wren]

god damn it, im blind as frick.

[wispy thistle]

trade some vers for some crit and you should be in a good spot

[inner pine]

easier said than done when the only thing m+ drops is cloaks.

ai ai ai

[unreal onyx]

More m+

M+ grindset

[summer quail]

just do a dungeon that doesn't drop a cloak

[inner pine]

you are a smart man

[polar trail]

You can always recraft those weapons and/or ring to some crit

[sour badger]

Is rampage 4 consecutive auto attacks?

And when I cast it do it has a channel?

Or I can press other abilities as soon as I clicked it

[edgy widget]

it's a special, not auto, and is on the GCD

it is comprised of four individual hits, but for all intents and purposes it works the same as any other standard GCD ability

[sour badger]

So they are instant?

[edgy widget]

virtually, there's a very small delay between each attack, but still much shorter than the GCD

[sour badger]

Or still I need to wait “4 specials to attack” and then continue casting other spells

[edgy widget]

you have to wait for the GCD anyway

[sour badger]

Global cool downs?

😅

Sorry 2 days in wow

[modern badger]

Just a quick one for those who are higher ilvl (around 480+) just curious on what stats are people stacking and what type of damage you’re outputting in general

[edgy widget]

yes, the ability sweep on the action bar that appears whenever you cast most abilities

pretty much everything that is a direct offensive action (attacks) are on the GCD, which is between 0.75 - 1.5s (depending on how much haste you have), so you can't just slam 30 keys at the same time

abilities that are not offensive or do not deal direct damage are mostly off the GCD (defensives, mobility, and buffs which do not have a direct damage component), so they can be used at the same time as other abilities both on and off GCD

[sour badger]

Ah so it’s this circle in buttons that appears just after the cast?

[edgy widget]

yep, if you look closely, its a little time-sweep

[sour badger]

Understood

[edgy widget]

so for example, Rampage, Bloodthirst, Execute, Odyn's Fury, etc are all on the GCD, so you can only use one at a time

while Recklessness, Avatar, Heroic Leap, Enraged Regeneration are off GCD, so you can use them instantly and simultaneously

[sour badger]

Ah so that’s why there is skill priority and “rotation”

[edgy widget]

Charge is also off the GCD and a minor exception since it does deal an extremely small amount of damage, but its principle function is mobility rather than offensive value

[edgy widget]

you could think of it that way, though the two terms are largely synonymous, and players generally consider off-gcd things part of their "rotation" especially when they have low cooldowns

[sour badger]

im currently leveling and trying to learn basics of wow as well

this is my skill currently

is it any good or i need to switch something?

[final birch]

Shouldn't worry about your stuff while leveling too much

[edgy widget]

there's a leveling section in the pinned guides, though honestly leveling content is pretty faceroll to the point where you can use just about anything

[vast surge]

This is like Usain Bolt explaining how to run to a toddler. Amazing

[edgy widget]

I'd recommend using it as an opportunity to swap things around often (you can respec at will), just to get a feel for different talents

[sour badger]

yeah... but being constantly last in dungeon feels sad

[edgy widget]

though strictly speaking, a lot of talents don't have much use in leveling, simply because it's so easy (e.g. you don't really need to stun or fear stuff that often)

[sour badger]

but wouldnt it influence my performance with one spec?

[edgy widget]

that's probably less to do with your talents and more to do with experience, especially since most veteran players will be wearing full heirlooms, giving them a lot more character power

[sour badger]

i mean if i learn different specs im just bad with everything for now no?

[edgy widget]

also low level content is wildly imbalanced, since different classes/specs get different tools at very different times

[sour badger]

is herilooms some kind of boost?

armor or its with skills?

[edgy widget]

heirlooms are equipment that scale with your level, so you never need to loot replacements

[sour badger]

noticed yesterday... protection was doing top dps... and healer with 1 spell was destroing everything

[edgy widget]

they're meant to help people level their alts faster, but a new player won't have access to them

[sour badger]

oh sad

[edgy widget]

that and also the level advantage - WoW uses extensive scaling tech to allow people at different levels to play together

and while it does more or less equalize things between them, higher level players are still going to have a lot more tools unlocked than lower level ones

[inner pine]

yeah thanks I think I'll do that

[edgy widget]

anyway, if its your first playthrough of the game, I would highly recommend just relaxing and enjoying the ride; you can worry about min/maxing, performance, and competitive bullshit when you reach a point at which it matters

think a lot of us would love to go back to that point where it was all fresh and new tbh 😂

[clever path]

Fury levelling isn’t the best for damage, go arms for levelling if you want to be higher on meters , not like they matter considering healers in levelling can top the meters lol

[inner pine]

is there an alternative to raidbots or is the go-to sim?

[edgy widget]

there isn't any alternative, no

[inner pine]

I miss the ease of use of the wotlk sims but this does have a lot of depth

[edgy widget]

they were easy for a reason - wow has evolved considerably since then, and spreadsheets can't very well model chance based procs

even the "rng" things back then were mostly ICD based, much more straightforward and predictable than the mechanics used today

[inner pine]

the current wotlk sims are fairly userfriendly with swapping gear around and comparing the pieces, something I think raidbots could be better at, but there's probably reasons for it.

[storm rune]

That's more a case of the devs are doing the best that they can

[prisma sleet]

485 +20 BRH..is my dps trash? i think so

[umbral galleon]

are running slam on keys too?

[prisma sleet]

are locks strong or something..that guy is 474 and almost beat me..

[eternal sundial]

demo is p good yep

[storm rune]

demo lock is pretty fucking cracked rn

[eternal sundial]

yes

[storm rune]

As far as damage goes for fury you're somewhere in the 70-80 range of parses, so it's not like you're performing terribly or anything.

[icy topaz]

Ladies and gentlemen we got the lego!!

[eternal sundial]

key parses are fake

no one logs their keys and the default goes by score

[storm rune]

It's just that fury is pretty hardcapped at 5 targets outside of CDs so you tend to fall off in comparison to other classes with better access to aoe

[prisma sleet]

is there an updated dps tier list?

[umbral galleon]

man

i was like

"fuck theres somethign missing"

[eternal sundial]

you wouldnt wanna see it as a warrior

[umbral galleon]

then i realised most top fury weres running slam

now my rotation feels whole again

[prisma sleet]

LOL where

[eternal sundial]

btw you cant not talent slam

its fully baseline

[umbral galleon]

i notice now

[eternal sundial]

tierlists dont matter just do dam

(wcl rankings/subcreation popularity)

[storm rune]

That's why you sort by DPS?

[umbral galleon]

i did not notice slam was not a spender anymore

great change

[eternal sundial]

it is - but read what annihilator does

[sour badger]

We use slam

?

It’s so weak for me:(

[storm rune]

yeah, otherwise you're gonna be rage starved

[eternal sundial]

with a talent

you dont have it yet

[storm rune]

ohhh they're a baby warrior

[sour badger]

Rage starved? It uses my rage

And it does comparably weak damage with other skills

[eternal sundial]

yea thats what the talent changes

[sour badger]

Barbaric training?

[eternal sundial]

annihilator

bottom right of your fury tree

[summer quail]

storm of swords changes it to a builder

[storm rune]

storm of swords

anni replaces RB

but that's all in the future

[sour badger]

Not seeing it

[summer quail]

bruh

[eternal sundial]

use the search function for

"storm of swords"

you can also look up "slam" and itll show you all the things related to it

[summer quail]

you're leveling, think about all that stuff later on

[sour badger]

Omg it’s left of the fury tree

[eternal sundial]

yea i forgot the placement

[sour badger]

No, no I was too focused on your direction and didn’t check other😅

[sour badger]

Im trying to understand the thing

Like for example for me now slam is very weak

And I’m not even using it

But as I saw it’s used later

So tried to understand why and how

[summer quail]

ye, right now you won't be pressing slam. it will only be used when you get the tierset that we have

[sour badger]

Oh is it some kind of special skills with equipment?

[storm rune]

It's still bad in terms of damage, don't get us wrong, it's just used in endgame as a fury generator to be able to use your spenders

Cuz by taking Annihilator you don't have anything spammable as all your abilities now have CDs, so you need to fill in the gap with low damage builders

[summer quail]

it's basically just that with the tier gear we only have 2 other ways of generating rage since we replace raging blow with a passive rage generation from auto attacks

[sour badger]

Hate this quest… lovesick and lost… I mean escort quests are boring as far as I can see but escort drunkard is even worse

[sour badger]

Oh I see

[sour badger]

Raging blow? Damn

Wait

So once I get it

I swap the improved raging blow talent?

To sudden death for example

Which is also AA based?

[storm rune]

It's specific to how we build for the current tier set, so until you're in endgame all this annihilator slam stuff isn't relevant

[sour badger]

Fair enough

Then I’m gonna focus on levelling and try my best

Currently lvl 33

[mighty wren]

basically play whatever you find interesting until atleas 60+, at 70 with setbonuses you can start thinking about more specific builds and rotations.

[storm rune]

Yeah leveling you don't need to worry about much, I leveled as prot and thought there were too many keybinds so I never talented into additional skills lmao

[mighty wren]

I think i leveled my latest warrior with a weird, messy single-handed fury spec 😂 never get to enjoy that at max level

[eternal sundial]

what area are you questing in

should be tiragarde sound right?

[sour badger]

Freehold

Bfa

[mighty wren]

yeah... escort quests aren't the strong suit of wow...

never have been, likely never will be

[eternal sundial]

then ur on the right path to the coolest quests in that continent (imo)

drustvar