progging tindral with no mw was fucking hell man
#fury
hardy cargo
sullen dove
eggshell piss
amber arch
And how do you guys sim for m+? Just using the standard or does dungeon slide work at all?
junior gale
Free just to get beat up by a dragon Gratz!
ebon venture
is mythic pips better than heroic aug? i am getting bettter sims on pips for 5 man cleave
sullen dove
uhhh i mean maybe raw stats better than damage that only splits on super high uptime like that
but id think generally augury just better
ebon venture
but id think generally augury just better
if i ever get it xD
lofty delta
avoidable damage on prog is cringe imo xD Parses don't matter for shit on a first kill + your healers know what you did and hate you for it.
ebon solstice
what is good enrage uptime?
hardy cargo
yall ever use chat gpt to see what your wow name could be
just gave me golgrimmar lol
open prairie
avoidable damage on prog is cringe imo xD Parses don't matter for shit on a firs...
depends whats the tradeoff
south kayak
I hecking love reddit
I still don't have axe
open prairie
I still don't have axe
arent you a stinky outlaw main
south kayak
That sucks u get it next week for sure
I haven't done this week yet
south kayak
arent you a stinky outlaw main
Alt warrior
sinful spoke
Boot that shit up
oblique trail
arent you a stinky outlaw main
I'm about to be a sub main (on my alt rogue) 
covert blaze
I haven't done this week yet
this week for sure
south kayak
this week for sure
oblique trail
Even got a free HC clear on it as lootbody at 440 ilvl
covert blaze
I tried very hard to like rogue this expansion, I just can't
sinful spoke
Is it firelands thats up rn?
oblique trail
Is that funny trinket good for all agi
sinful spoke
matrix restabilizer at 483 is outsimming mythic brand
Fr? Ahahhaha
south kayak
matrix restabilizer at 483 is outsimming mythic brand
surely getting nerfed
open prairie
Is that funny trinket good for all agi
so yes, mildly strong
open prairie
the 476 was like barely worse than a 489 trinket
oblique trail
is it just brain off lfr level
open prairie
yeah
hardy cargo
yep
open prairie
you can use azerite in it
oblique trail
good
open prairie
to feel op
oblique trail
It's a weekly lockout as well I imagine?
south kayak
low chance it's gonna drop
oblique trail
cringler
open prairie
i.e this week
oblique trail
Hate timegated gear that's omega strong
open prairie
i got the rag mount on my warrior
pastel agate
Does casting Odyn's Fury and Avatar back to back allow the DOT to stack or are we losing DPS?
south kayak
Hate timegated gear that's omega strong
I remember the firt time firelands TW came out
they nerfed a bunch of trinkets because they were strong
i don't see why they wouldn't nerf this one now
oblique trail
Does casting Odyn's Fury and Avatar back to back allow the DOT to stack or are w...
You lose a big portion of the dot
open prairie
first time firelands tw came out
they hotfixed those trinkets
being able to proc sockets
pastel agate
You lose a big portion of the dot
Dang. All this time I've been losing all this DPS
oblique trail
You only get 30% of the original dots duration added on top
Which is why you want to space out your CD usage
pastel agate
Would I want to wait for the DOT to be completely out or wait untill it has like 2 seconds left
oblique trail
You can use Avatar when there's 0.5-1 sec left of the dot
south kayak
use avatar when it falls out or right before it does
open prairie
apparently its bis for feral
oblique trail
But it's easier to just track Avatar instead of thinking about the dot, and use your hardcast Avatar as the OF Avatar falls off
open prairie
allegedly
oblique trail
I saw a vid saying so
Checked the strength trinkie and it was basically equivalent to a HC pips as Arms at 483
open prairie
Checked the strength trinkie and it was basically equivalent to a HC pips as Arm...
yeah im surprised wrathstone didnt come up super high for dhs
crit passive with 20s agi on use
pastel agate
But it's easier to just track Avatar instead of thinking about the dot, and use ...
Sounds like OF needs to be my opener
open prairie
on a 2min cd
south kayak
i cba trying to learn sub and it's dumb timings
i barely play rogue anyway
alt time
oblique trail
Sounds like OF needs to be my opener
If you're not sure what the opener looks like, it's
reck + charge -> ramp -> OF -> spear/roar -> bb -> ramp -> avatar as OF avatar falls off -> bb -> ramp and so on
south kayak
i don't wanna read a spreadsheet
oblique trail
yeah im surprised wrathstone didnt come up super high for dhs
Didn't check but I got mythic branch on it from 2nd vault
open prairie
ez
oblique trail
Although if I could swap it out with anything at like a 0.5% loss
I'd do it in a heartbeat
south kayak
Didn't check but I got mythic branch on it from 2nd vault
i still don't have branch
oblique trail
Branch is the most cringe trinket I've played with in my entire life
pastel agate
If you're not sure what the opener looks like, it's
reck + charge -> ramp -> OF ...
Ohhh I forgot, we need ramp for the enraged effect. The thing is I really like having Avatar and Reck macrod together lol
south kayak
Branch is the most cringe trinket I've played with in my entire life
send me
south kayak
I get what I don't want and not what I do want
That's how life is
oblique trail
Ohhh I forgot, we need ramp for the enraged effect. The thing is I really like h...
Yeah do not do this
open prairie
yeah i swear wrathstone should be nutty for dh
south kayak
lmao get fucked
desert cloud
N
clever path
use pvp trinket
south kayak
honestly im over this tier on my main especially mythic
just wanna chill on alts and do things casually
oblique trail
sub doesnt even use branch now
I will NOT farm branch on that stinky yellow character
open prairie
sub being able to do like a 500k dps opener
oblique trail
Quickest way for me to not play a char
open prairie
no aug
oblique trail
Only picked it on DH because it'd be grief not to
open prairie
I will NOT farm branch on that stinky yellow character
well youāre in luck ashes is better for sub
if you play bsl
south kayak
it's funny how sub still hasn't gotten nerfed
oblique trail
It is
open prairie
alot
oblique trail
Their opacity is set to .5%, the hitbox doesn't exist, and sometimes you just jump over it (or walk through it lol)
covert blaze
how much of a loss is not playing dash
too much
open prairie
the best part of branch is seeing other peopleās
south kayak
i got branch 3 times on my rogue
mythic one too
and i did everbloom a few times
but when i want it on dh it never drops
south kayak
i got that one a long time ago
open prairie
yeah i got mythic bandolier week 2 so uhhā¦
covert blaze
yeah i got mythic bandolier week 2 so uhhā¦
i would never use that shit
covert blaze
apparently the range on the thing
is shorter than acrobatic strikes
so yeah
very cool
south kayak
it isn't?
covert blaze
š¤·āāļø
frigid cipher
if you just don't farm it, you can't be disappointed
unreal onyx
Just buy em when they come up in the bmah
unreal onyx
I think on my small realm the last time I saw them they sold for like 550k
The item has got to be reeeal good to crack 1mil on my realm
young swan
gz
covert blaze
mog
lavish seal
mog
floral frigate
Iām tired killing fyrakk
lavish seal
same
floral frigate
11 hc killā¦ rerolled dh waiting every Wednesday
unreal onyx
3 
lavish seal
sour frigate
sour frigate
clever path
šļø
sour frigate
sour frigate
Workable
lavish seal
true
sour badger
and still without š
Without what?
lavish seal
I just need to farm for a better trink hehehe
dreamy notch
Without what?
dn
sour badger
Seeing everyone here discussing the same mob
young swan
theres a legendary weapon that drops from fyrakk at a very low drop chance
sour badger
theres a legendary weapon that drops from fyrakk at a very low drop chance
Oooh so cool
young swan
and people are upset they dont have it yet
lavish seal
i m not upset
clever path
grand adventure i tell yo
oblique trail
and people are upset they dont have it yet
I'd never be upset =)
sour badger
and people are upset they dont have it yet
How is it called? Wanna see it
lavish seal
time to farm it on my retpal now
clever path
same
sour frigate
its so epic
clever path
upset is for babies
oblique trail
How is it called? Wanna see it
Fyr'alath
young swan
How is it called? Wanna see it
fyr'alath, the dreamrender
lavish seal
my 428 retpal 
sour frigate
its so epic
Its legendary dude
lavish seal
Its legendary dude
yeah what he said
sour badger
Damn
oblique trail
la Squarciasogni
sour badger
la Squarciasogni
Italian translationš
sour frigate
Jeez i tried to drop it 3 times and now im mad
lavish seal
sour badger
if you gonna get it from lfr and post it here
Idk what it is but Iām gonna go for itš
lavish seal
Idk what it is but Iām gonna go for itš
make sure to @me when u get it
we would like to see
sour frigate
lavish seal
oh damn wtf
clever path
Dont care im dropping warrior
wtf
lavish seal
<:deadge:900279927138578432>
donāt
sour frigate
No lego no gaming
dreamy notch
Well my warrior has it
lavish seal
u have so much to live for
dreamy notch
just my dk doesnt
and sadly i had to main dk this tier cuz our vdh cba's to play his
sour badger
make sure to @me when u get it
Sure
dreamy notch
look at this juiced up alt
dreamy notch
slick ww?
sour frigate
Huge ww
sour badger
Guys a question. Can you equip 2 of these legendaries? Hypothetically?
dreamy notch
as a mog yes
woven token
dreamy notch
you cant get 2 of em
sour frigate
One small issue
sour badger
Oh I see
sour badger
If it's not unique u could
What is considered unique?
sour frigate
What is considered unique?
Some items have unique equipped thing in their description
dreamy notch
also you want ashkandur in your offhand next season
sour frigate
That doesn't let to equip exact same stuff
sour badger
Some items have unique equipped thing in their description
Oh I see
Thank you
Another thing
sour frigate
also you want ashkandur in your offhand next season
I just want to be happy and reckless
sour badger
When using heroic leap. It always puts me into aim it and click it second time. Is there a way to turn it off in settings? So it casts on first click? I guess I feel confident to use it first time already. Without additional click confirmation
sour badger
should be in the wowhead guide
Im trying to not read any guides related to a class
Trying to go full blind and ask questions on the way when they appear necessary
sour badger
Because itās my very first mmo and wow experience
I want to take a good bite of it
sour frigate
/Cast [@player]
sour badger
As everyone was doing back then when it just came out
sour badger
#showtooltip Heroic Leap
/cast [@cursor] Heroic Leap
And how to put it on the action bar?
young swan
u have to make a macro
sour frigate
Same as og ability
young swan
and then put the macro on ur bar
nocturne dragon
just put the macro you made on action bar
sour badger
Ok. Do I text it into chat?
sour frigate
No
sour badger
As a command
young swan
essentially 3rd party mods
sour badger
essentially 3rd party mods
Oh so thatās what it was
young swan
some of them are very powerful and some are just quality of life improvements
sour badger
I yesterday saw video of a fury warrior doing something on +29
And he had completely different things on monitor
Compared to mine
And I was wondering
young swan
yeah those would be addons
young swan
likely elvui and weakauras yeah
sour badger
#showtooltip Heroic Leap
/cast [@cursor] Heroic Leap
Omg it works
And itās soo cool
clever path
the chef is here
who are you again
random hill
Guys how do u sim for m+?
and what does it mean on weapon rune "default"
which one is it
young swan
hissing
sullen dove
no real perfect way but generally fine to sim for st patchwerk and most of the upgrades translates pretty closely to aoe
random hill
hissing is defeault one?
sullen dove
aside from like specific trinkets
random hill
no real perfect way but generally fine to sim for st patchwerk and most of the u...
1 boss 5 min?
young swan
the only thing you need to sim m+ for is trinkets and generally thats solved by just applying some critical thinking
random hill
for some reason my sim rly wanna down my haste
sullen dove
or like, do both, they should sorta come close upgrade per upgrade aside from yeah actual trinket usage
random hill
which i find anoying xd
young swan
usually the answer is stats/damage + on use
sullen dove
like brand prolly looks good on 5boss 5min but its not rly realistic
sullen dove
yea 66% maybe a teensy bit high
random hill
like wth
random hill
u have augury in bags
for surviving reasons
sullen dove
lulwut
clever path
imagine having augry
sullen dove
just
random hill
(augury normal)
clever path
random hill
3min 1 boss a little peculiar ngl
there u go
sullen dove
i mean length isnt really important so long as u just use the same time for all your sims
1 minute not that great either
like if its "too short" then idk some trinkets for instance are shown as way more valuable than others
sullen dove
like take a 3 min trink mirror would show as being super powerful compared to might of the ocean most likely
random hill
it just keep wanting to drop haste for mastery Sadge
sullen dove
when they're prolly closer to the same
young swan
haste isnt a particularly important stat for fury in general right now
even less so in aoe
young swan
vers is always good, mastery and crit always have increased value with more targets
random hill
when u drop even more haste
sullen dove
ww monks be like 
random hill
yea vers is good especially on 27/28 keys
when mechanics hits like truck
so what u guys prefer mostly to sim : 1xboss 5 min or 5x5?
young swan
i dont sim for m+
random hill
i see
sullen dove
can do both and just kinda compare results
random hill
random hill
so if it tells me to go 18% haste u would do that ? :S
sullen dove
but generally they should be close enough together
young swan
so if it tells me to go 18% haste u would do that ? :S
no
sullen dove
18% seems a little cringe but remember enrage gives you another 15% haste
random hill
yeye ik
sullen dove
so while youre losing some its not like its a gigantic part of it
random hill
but it feels omegaslow
young swan
optimizing stats for aoe has been dead ever since they removed the ability to swap gear sets in dungeons
u just run ST shit and play diff trinkets
random hill
so just for confirmation hissing is by default best rune ye?
and its default one
on sim
young swan
hissing is the default choice
random hill
tyvm guys
young swan
its usually also the best choice
sullen dove
pmuch all of the time its the best, tho idk maybe you can have too much mast
like 66% def one of the highest ive seen
but who knos
maybe you are a beefy enraged boy
unreal onyx
Mastery fuck good
young swan
mastery fuck good
unreal onyx
Im only at 54%
vague copper
How can ppl be close to 3k io (I know its not high) and still not have a clue about mechanic?
That you can find BM hunter with it is one thing but tanks and healers and whatnot
random hill
if they give bloodlust for warriors as a shout it will be over for those ppl
like most warriors always know how to play
covert blaze
Pink panda
mighty wren
woo! got it last night, after 13 heroic kills. shame I didnt have time to finish the superbloom part of questline before work this morning.
just in time for it to become completely useless in season 4
chrome plover
just in time for it to become completely useless in season 4
you will likely be able to upgrade it next season to the new highest ilvl
clever path
What are PvP talent slots
talents only if you opt in in warmode or in battlegrounds
sour badger
talents only if you opt in in warmode or in battlegrounds
What is war mode?
clever path
What is war mode?
enables world pvp and 10% bonus exp
mighty wren
toggled world-pvp mode, you can toggle it in valdrakken and main capital (other cities too now?) with a button in your talent window.
clever path
toggled world-pvp mode, you can toggle it in valdrakken and main capital ~~(othe...
Just valdrakken org or stormwind
can be opted out in any rest zone
clever path
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2LZmCMypCgiUwuJ6j1pFvr
race change to human
for 5k more dps
clever path
What is war mode?
summer quail
Assa rogue
clever path
what is that cooked build
summer quail
clever path
thats just a picture from google
to give person an idea where pvp talents are and warmode
clever path
Assa rogue
based rogue spec
summer quail
Outlaw best rogue spec
summer quail
Outlaw is basically fury warrior but good
clever path
thats what i said
smf warrior
@meager gyro
ok but 3 mil kingsbane
outlaw doesn't have that
sour badger
toggled world-pvp mode, you can toggle it in valdrakken and main capital ~~(othe...
Oh I see
And what talents there should I pick?
sour badger
enables world pvp and 10% bonus exp
Thatās cool god damn
mighty wren
I'll let some pvp enjoyer help with the talent picks :P I've no idea.
sour badger
I'll let some pvp enjoyer help with the talent picks :P I've no idea.
Understood
clever path
enduring rage helps with leveling
death sentence is funny
double leap talent is helpful
in open world that is
also true
forgot about it
man we had that leggo in sl
leaper
was a fun leggo
i found it more enjoyable to level as arms tbf
you hit hard right of the bat
but when you need to solo some elite quest then spec into fury
fury cant even press rampage
until like lvl 30
lmao
same with rogue almost you get to really kill shit at like level 20 if not later
first 30 levels were horrible on rogue goddamn
clever path
its like
10$ for a boost
and u just sit afk
but tis not instant reee
and you dont get 424 ilvl gear reee
damn 424 ilvl gear
vague copper
^^
clever path
upper mica
im so angry at myself... how stupid lol
violet trail
you will likely be able to upgrade it next season to the new highest ilvl
Didn't happen with the evoker legendary doubt it will happen with this one
clever belfry
Didn't happen with the evoker legendary doubt it will happen with this one
evoker lego wasnt going into fated
as in, not a tier where the boss u get it from is available.
violet trail
True, but I doubt it.
chrome plover
Didn't happen with the evoker legendary doubt it will happen with this one
likely also comes back for fated
the evoker legendary i mean
violet trail
WELL I'M ON THE BELIEVER TRAIN THEN
chrome plover
welcome
runic pine
Didn't happen with the evoker legendary doubt it will happen with this one
It happened with fated in SL thoughā¦.
I would also assume evoker gets the same deal
clever path
Didn't happen with the evoker legendary doubt it will happen with this one
10.2 isnt fated
they will get it
in fated
the same way hunters got sylvanas bow in sl fated
oblique trail
I think just another one should confirm it for them when 2 already did
chrome plover
I love skyhold
chrome plover
maybe greater embers are additive chance and it will be 100% soon :)
clever path
no leggo
clever path
maybe greater embers are additive chance and it will be 100% soon :)
surely they arent useless
participation cope token
chrome plover
havent killed fyrakk in 4 weeks where's my lego 
clever path
this has to be by far the worst system this expac
chrome plover
at least it's better than the evoker one i guess
cerulean spire
Is there a way to check the abilities pressed on a log? The sequence I mean
oblique trail
Press casts -> timelines
cerulean spire
oh thanks
oblique trail
Events also works if you want very accurate measurements in a table
fossil hatch
STACKING
fallen ginkgo
Next week
fossil hatch
man i wish i could dodge this class, but so obsessed wirh war
azure light
STACKING <:keks:936231610850897992>
How did you see the count btw?
azure light
Got a link?
twin glacier
Itās just a weak aura. If u use it now itāll prolly be at 0
fossil hatch
sure mom
fossil hatch
Itās just a weak aura. If u use it now itāll prolly be at 0
no
it counts past aswell
twin glacier
I mean I donāt bother with the lesser ones. The last reclears I did I only got like what
1 or none lesser
fossil hatch
it's just a chat command
for me its not useless
twin glacier
for me its not useless
What does it give u? Being salty that u still havenāt got it?
chrome plover
it is useful so that you can post it in skyhold and say stacking
fleet sorrel
obtuse grove
Guys, do we take intervene to intervene tanks on high keys?
clever path
you know, i have been farming tmog and anima shit from slands, and its much better than hopelessly aiming for legendary on main
fossil hatch
What does it give u? Being salty that u still havenāt got it?
to know how many i looted nothing more
let people use it if they want
clever path
Logged onto ret pala - got it 2nd kill
fossil hatch
xd
chrome plover
Guys, do we take intervene to intervene tanks on high keys?
try it
chrome plover
What wouod happen on a high key?
obtuse grove
But I have more armor than my tank?
twin glacier
My dogdk got it like 4 weeks ago. My ret on his scnd ( boosted) kill. The character I care about doesnāt even know it exists.
chrome plover
But I have more armor than my tank?
why dont you tank the mobs permanently then?
obtuse grove
Good point
calm mantle
Month old alt has 2 myth weapons while main still struggling with one. Alt new main? xD
fallen ginkgo
Yes.
calm mantle
Yes, it's a second warrior.
clever path
Why would you have more than 1 warrior?
calm mantle
Because I like to send stuff on reset but I need a second character for lock outs with friends
and the other 2 classes I tried I hated so I just went with a second warrior. Stick with what you know and enjoy.
calm mantle
Found the imposter
clever path
Ayo I am like Aang, I am trying to unite the nations
Whenever I say this, someone here says fuck pallys
Whenever I say it on paladin discord, they say fuck warriors
Why canāt we all leave in peace
slate geyser
One is holy warrior and the other is warrior warrior
what about stealth and elemental warrior ?
clever path
Warriors of all flavours are great
Shame we donāt have magic warrior
Melee mage spec would be baller
cyan turtle
clever path
Is Easter in April ?
inner olive
vague copper
What you guys say, wrong to say that at this point there is a bigger chance to complete a key between 18-23 with no metaclasses?
Thats the feeling I have atleast
So many ppl carried by class to close 3k its sad
chrome plover
What you guys say, wrong to say that at this point there is a bigger chance to c...
but in seriousness, no, mistiming 18-23 has nothing to do with class imo
vague copper
Ofc not.. But for some reason it tend to be those that play for an exemple DH that has no clue what so ever.
chrome plover
you can time those keys on any class with no clue whatsoever, he could be a dh or an ele sham or a mm hunter
vague copper
Thats not what I say tho
chrome plover
I think the only argument there is he might find it easier to get into pugs as a dh
vague copper
But nm
chrome plover
it's just higher population of meta specs means you see more bad players of those specs
and also confirmation bias
vague copper
But as for this run.. 29xx rio DH that did not know how to bait shockwaves in rise. Nor what has to be kicked in the first pulls or what the orb does from maiden
I mean
merry jetty
Any guesses on s4 release?
chrome plover
yeah but that isnt because he's a dh
vague copper
Still
chrome plover
i would argue that if you stopped playing with dh entirely you'd time the same number of keys and the morons would just be spread over other specs instead
vague copper
the % of bad players in those classes are still higher. But that is my feeling and you can think or say exactly what you want but that wont change my mind about it
as for lets say warrior out of 10 warrior there is 1 bad..
Out of 100 dh that aint stopping at 10
its above 50
š
hardy shuttle
How often do you play with 2 warriors
chrome plover
well yeah? you stated your opinion, and asked if it was wrong, i told you it was wrong, and you said "that's my opinion you cant change my mind"
normal skyhold discussion
silent burrow
as for lets say warrior out of 10 warrior there is 1 bad..
chrome plover
yeah I dont think warrior has the best class rep lmfao
silent burrow
I'm still laughing aloud
vague copper
It was an exemple :P..
hardy shuttle
The only class I have given up hope on is regular hunters
chrome plover
more popular class = see more of them = see more bad ones = think that class is bad
warrior, dh, hunter all very popular
silent burrow
Literally every time the meta shifts, the number of bads that are playing meta classes goes up. It's inevitable.
chrome plover
trick is to stop pug keys altogether 
merry jetty
as for lets say warrior out of 10 warrior there is 1 bad..
Out of 50 warriors i see 1 good one when im playinh my hunter
Idk what level of content youre doing, but warrior is easier than DH, therefor better warriors on lower content
silent burrow
trick is to stop pug keys altogether <:bedge:882323848844963860>
Or stop playing altogether
merry jetty
Higher content its the same shit. Although harder to be good at dps on war than on dh
chrome plover
Or stop playing altogether <:bedge:882323848844963860>
I did that
silent burrow
Higher content its the same shit. Although harder to be good at dps on war than ...
lol naw
chrome plover
almost a month now
silent burrow
Same
silent burrow
I said naw, what confuses you about that
You are lying to yourself if you think warrior is harder than dh lol
silent burrow
lol okay.
merry jetty
Idk what level of content youre doing, but warrior is easier than DH, therefor b...
This is whre i talked about class difficulty
The other one that u delusionally disagree with is dps
silent burrow
lol okay.
chrome plover
dire badge
lofty apex
warm crag
6ā¬ srimp special
eternal sundial
Srimp fried this special?
warm crag
the fires of a thousand suns
eternal sundial
And of one obliterate by a dk with fyr'alath the dreamrender
oblique trail
the fires of a thousand suns
annihilation
warm crag
obliteration
shy knot
You are lying to yourself if you think warrior is harder than dh lol
LOL
DH is the most brainless spec Ive played
If you couldnt jump around like a spastic it would be top 3 boring spec
Ret top 2
eternal sundial
Im psure you can spot a bad dh very easily
silent burrow
Because it isn't easy to play well lol
autumn mica
Im psure you can spot a bad dh very easily
it's easy, a bad DH does warrior damage ! š
kekw
eternal sundial
Because it isn't easy to play well lol
Sark p1 on bad dh..
Snold baits with bad dh..
silent burrow
lol exactly. If you play braindead on dh you are going to be griefing, dead or doing bad damage. Probably a combination lol
silent burrow
Ret being easy is one of the things that makes it a fun alt imo. You can just turn off brain and crank
autumn mica
But tbf it's easier to survive in high keys as Fury warrior then a DH by far
clever path
Ret being easy is one of the things that makes it a fun alt imo. You can just tu...
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autumn mica
that's our luxury i'd say
fading sky
Idk what level of content youre doing, but warrior is easier than DH, therefor b...
i mean a worse played dh will do more dps than a warrior so again what is the metric u apply ?
shy knot
But tbf it's easier to survive in high keys as Fury warrior then a DH by far
Maybe, fury is immortal
I die only when I want to or get oneshot by some bullshit
merry jetty
i mean a worse played dh will do more dps than a warrior so again what is the me...
Literally next sentence, the one @silent burrow cant comprehend
silent burrow
Or maybe I understand what your words mean more than you do lol
merry jetty
Dunning kruger in action
silent burrow
Compare the bad to the good players within the specs
unreal onyx
Fotm
silent burrow
Playing a spec poorly and doing more damage than another spec doesn't mean it's easy to play lol
It means it's easy to do damage on because of tuning. Compare that shitty player to a good one playing the same spec.
merry jetty
Glad you just agreed with me
silent burrow
Which one of us is supposed to be delusional?
unreal onyx
Me
merry jetty
Google dunning kruger
silent burrow
Good AT dps, means you are playing the spec well.
merry jetty
Dps = / = spec
silent burrow
And you're silly if you think it's easier to be good AT dps on dh.
merry jetty
Idk mate keep talkimg
silent burrow
silent burrow
lol okay.
shy knot
Ive seen big nuance in warrior dps tbh
hardy shuttle
Good AT dps, means you are playing the spec well.
He's probably someone who thinks overall is the most important thing in a key
shy knot
The average warrior is trash as hell
shy knot
Variation maybe?
Yeah
shy knot
Then you got mfs like Critcake and its still the same āeasy classā
tardy lark
I highly doubt many players that actively chat i here are actually āaverageā
shy knot
Yeah true
silent burrow
I agree with that
tardy lark
That goal post gets moved a lot the better you get
runic pine
I highly doubt many players that actively chat i here are actually āaverageā
Iām average
tardy lark
Iām average
Same bro
shy knot
That guy that consistently places top 3 on dmg meters every key
silent burrow
The better I got, the less I was satisfied with my performance lol
runic pine
Iāll consider myself not average when all of my parses are purple in mythic instead of like 3 being blue
upper mica
honestly i feel like im a terrible warrior.... but other people say im decent... the better we get the more we feel shit.. ironic
shy knot
Im washed I used to consider only orange good even in mythic lol now I suck in raids
upper mica
im purp in everything in heroic š¦ i cant get orange
shy knot
M+ tho if Im not topping dps I alt+f4 out the game
upper mica
oh wait... my first orange tonight on gnarl
runic pine
M+ tho if Im not topping dps I alt+f4 out the game
Just play arms and youāll top
shy knot
im purp in everything in heroic š¦ i cant get orange
Gear and raid comp matters alot
upper mica
m+ i hold myself but i find hunters and DH i just give up against
shy knot
Just play arms and youāll top
I like fury way more
upper mica
Gear and raid comp matters alot
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/frostmourne/nezagu#difficulty=4 thats my logs page feel free to peruse but idefinately feel underdone
violet trail
If you are simming in the purps you are better than most players
upper mica
my problem is when i flip between warriros and ilvl.... warrior in heroic im all purp one orange
when i go ilvl.... 1 purp 7 blue and 1 green š¦
runic pine
Ilvl is funky
upper mica
saying this i dont have aug... that REALLY hurts my dps
runic pine
No
hardy shuttle
m+ i hold myself but i find hunters and DH i just give up against
Feel like hunters have suddenly fallen off the past two weeks. Every one in my keys feels like they owe me some gold by the end of it
silent burrow
saying this i dont have aug... that REALLY hurts my dps
naw
That's not how that works
warm crag
your killtimers are significantly longer than good killtimers
silent burrow
Yeah aug be fuckin us
warm crag
Aug negatively affects your parse
citation needed
its more likely the other way around rn
upper mica
wait wait... how does aug hurt? dosent it all add damage
shy knot
I only lost to ret a couple times they are just crazy, hunter is beatable
eternal sundial
citation needed
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warm crag
wait wait... how does aug hurt? dosent it all add damage
aug doesn't affect your parse at all
hardy shuttle
Is Aug still taking 30% before armor factored in?
upper mica
aug do more damage... parse goes up - or am i just absoultely stupid
silent burrow
wait wait... how does aug hurt? dosent it all add damage
Not on your logs
runic pine
wait wait... how does aug hurt? dosent it all add damage
Thereās been cases of Aug not having damage be attributed properly, also Aug doesnāt touch your parse because all the stuff it does is supposed to be attributed to them
So if you did 300k on a fight because Aug
sour badger
Hello guys
sour badger
I have a question
warm crag
a good aug with good buff targets will increase your damage due to killtime but considering your killtimes are 30-50% longer than mine a good aug won't make a difference at all
sour badger
Iāve reached lvl 27
upper mica
oh wait!
silent burrow
In a perfect world aug wouldn't affect your logs at all... but ain't no way it's perfect
hardy shuttle
At one point Aug took a percentage of your dps before it was mitigated by armor. So it ended up taking like almost 50% instead of the intended 30%
Idk if it's been fixed on logs
sour badger
And saw a thing that I have a lot of fillers
warm crag
should be, aug hooks are somewhat fixed
yeah augury would help but probably isn't the difference between purple and orange parsing
calm mantle
Would a second shadowflame embell account for 4k dps in sims over allied wrist guards?
silent burrow
yeah augury would help but probably isn't the difference between purple and oran...
unless we talking tindral or smoleron maybe lol
upper mica
and yeah my pull timers arent great - only a heroic guild and a few people get carried lol
runic pine
yeah augury would help but probably isn't the difference between purple and oran...
I mean when I run brand itās the difference between purple and orange parsing
Sometimes brand is poopy
warm crag
you're significantly above everyone elses simdps with access to the legendary
sour badger
But none of my skills used rage I generate with these fillersā¦ and checking the talent tree I saw that rampage uses rage I generateā¦ should I pick it at the place of sudden death?
upper mica
yeah im still trying to figure out the right spot to "use" legendary
runic pine
yeah im still trying to figure out the right spot to "use" legendary
Outside of CDs on CD
warm crag
But none of my skills used rage I generate with these fillersā¦ and checking the ...
rampage is incredibly central to fury and how fury works, its your only effective spender in dps
i can't give you much insight about leveling but just pick talents that sound fun, worry about being effective when you hit level 70
upper mica
honestly if you remove legendary im pretty poopy š¦
calm mantle
Main still simming slightly higher with a crafted weapon vs alt with 2 myths. Only difference is 2 shadowflames on main and mythic rezan but main has champ signet vs heroic on alt.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ugTpC6a8WqaxStKjLo6dQw Main sim
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rwzaZuDm4rkvTCVbEzSsf6 Alt sim
hardy shuttle
Could be a lot of things, stat weights. Human over night elf is probably at leak 1k dps
eternal sundial
2 warriors and none above 230 is criminal
sour badger
i can't give you much insight about leveling but just pick talents that sound fu...
Im trying to level and was always last spots during dungeon runsā¦ was trying to figure out what was the problemš and reading all the skills came to conclusion rhat I have a lot of rage givers but only one rage user(and itās weak tho it was level 1 spell slam)
So I MUST pick the rampage right?
warm crag
you're probably last in dps meters in dungeons cause other classes might just work differently while leveling and you don't seem too experienced with how to actually optimize dungeon leveling vs others
i wouldn't worry about it too much
eternal sundial
It's what your spec is built around - build rage to rampage
warm crag
pick rampage and press your buttons you'll be fine
upper mica
2 warriors and none above 230 is criminal
230k is minimum? well shit i suck lol
eternal sundial
230k is minimum? well shit i suck lol
I mean i simmed 232 before lego so idk what yall are doin
warm crag
230k is minimum? well shit i suck lol
there is no shot you don't sim above 230k with legendary
upper mica
ill run 5 min patchwork right now 1 sec
warm crag
their trinkets are hot garbage
calm mantle
2 warriors and none above 230 is criminal
RNG hates me okay, also for soem reaosn my lfr augury sims lower then my myth rezans I thought augury would be higher.
past pivot
How are you only simming 228? Human alone should get you 235 lol
eternal sundial
RNG hates me okay, also for soem reaosn my lfr augury sims lower then my myth re...
For me HC augury and rezan 489 were tied
warm crag
the ilvls of it
warm crag
nvm the rezans is 489
calm mantle
How are you only simming 228? Human alone should get you 235 lol
I don't know, you tell me :c lol. I guess my gear is just doodoo Or I've done something wrong with my build.
warm crag
will still be poopy on final 2
you're simming tepid vers which is like -2k vs the others that will probably be simming corrupting rage
hardy shuttle
Rezan is better than signet if signet doesn't have time to stack. But in 5 min Sims signet should smoke rezans
eternal sundial
will still be poopy on final 2
Im psure ill do fyrakk with brand pip on arms xd
warm crag
i will obliterate you
shy knot
I need augury and lego and farm out some bullshit upgrades
warm crag
surely signet augury is best for fyrakk
shy knot
Then Im good
eternal sundial
Rezan is better than signet if signet doesn't have time to stack. But in 5 min S...
Shorter sims can favor mirror and branch
eternal sundial
surely signet augury is best for fyrakk
As if i have one
shy knot
Maybe 489 weap on oh
warm crag
noob
hardy shuttle
Shorter sims can favor mirror and branch
He asked specifically about rezans vs signet
warm crag
wait signet or augury
past pivot
I don't know, you tell me :c lol. I guess my gear is just doodoo Or I've done so...
Do you have a top gear sim?
eternal sundial
Augury
eternal sundial
did your guild just never give you one
1 dropped and went to warlock as my 489 rezan made number gain small
upper mica
my guild has had more leggos drop than augs lol
silent burrow
Imagine it even dropping
eternal sundial
Havent seen since
warm crag
find a new guild
eternal sundial
No i need non apes in loot council
warm crag
if augury doesnt go to a melee player first you leave immediately
shy knot
Never seen it drop
eternal sundial
If not 1 specific offi is in they made horrid calls
green fern
Hey, is there a reason why warriors rarely to never use Spell Reflect in raid? I use it quite often to get 20% less magic damage and in the logs I also see the mitigation but is there a reason why higher players don't use it?
Here is a log of mine as an example. Or is the mitigation not correct after all?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JVBRb39cvGhL7Dan#fight=55&type=healing&options=16384&source=235
warm crag
its a heroic raid
calm mantle
Do you have a top gear sim?
silent burrow
I use SR a lot
eternal sundial
I only wall in HC if i wanna greed some dumb shit
warm crag
look at mythic if you want to see people press spell reflect
upper mica
ok i dont know what the hell is goin on... signet and rezan on a 5 min patchwerk is 218k.... with leggo
warm crag
link the sim and i will tear it to shreds
shy knot
Wtf
past pivot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6anau75KkxwrtyL3L3v7jM
Lemme look. I mean, I have Augury and leggo but like 18k higher. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sAxSUzihpdBnpMZ2xARgtA
upper mica
Aoe talents
doh..... redoing lol
warm crag
Hey, is there a reason why warriors rarely to never use Spell Reflect in raid? I...
i used SR the same amt as you on m tindral reclear yday
even pressed it an extra time on first kill oly moly
calm mantle
I need to start using SR more. I might not die to shit. I died on mythic volc today due to a overlap of mechs and my enraged was down :c
chrome plover
oly moly
upper mica
when you guys sim for m+ do you just go AOE talents and change to 3 min 5 bosses? or am i being really stupid by doing that
warm crag
thats probably fine
calm mantle
^
calm mantle
I just change to might and crab for M+
warm crag
you're just there for prio damage anyways so sim st and equip might augury or whatever you're stuck with
past pivot
when you guys sim for m+ do you just go AOE talents and change to 3 min 5 bosses...
Just use your top gear recommendations and swap out your non Augury trinket for burst. Signet/Rezan/Ember for Might
upper mica
yeah m+ i run MotO and butchers block
past pivot
I just change to might and crab for M+
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mG5gqDbySd8r36dbxsYudg A little better. With leggo and Augury, you'd be mid-40s
upper mica
so ST sim is 238k
calm mantle
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mG5gqDbySd8r36dbxsYudg A little better. W...
I need something better then my lfr augury right? because it currently sims less then rezans on ST.
upper mica
link the sim and i will tear it to shreds
wild mural
Nelf booba increase dps
upper mica
^
warm crag
you could enchant frosted on your legs and get a tiny dps inc
idk how much it actually is
past pivot
I need something better then my lfr augury right? because it currently sims less...
Yes. The trouble may be Signet. If a fight lasts less than 5 minutes, it may not reach full stacks. That's something to keep in mind. I have 2 versions of ST gear, short and long fights.
upper mica
obviously a bigger signet would ne nice / aug
eternal sundial
200 or some shit
warm crag
also how are we in week 10?11? and you dont have your bracer socketed
eternal sundial
Str value so small end of tier
warm crag
its the first thing you should socket lol
calm mantle
Yes. The trouble may be Signet. If a fight lasts less than 5 minutes, it may not...
What's your stat distribution looking like? I was trying to stay at 60% mastery.
upper mica
i did helm first cause i was never changing my helm
next time i have 0 upgrade it will be bracers
calm mantle
Brothers my ret at 483 sims 248k....it's a dark day.
Ret just better I guess.
silent burrow
pink man good
warm crag
Spongiekins, how was reclear?
past pivot
What's your stat distribution looking like? I was trying to stay at 60% mastery.
I don't pay attention other than simming lol. Lemme look. 55% mastery 24% vers, 27% haste, 24% crit unbuffed. For ST
restive peak
Just busted bigtime
calm mantle
But as a true warrior play, I play warrior and satifiest to that.
warm crag
if you see this screen and do not soak a seed you have brain damage
restive peak
and lewl
calm mantle
I don't pay attention other than simming lol. Lemme look. 55% mastery 24% vers, ...
That without phial and hiissing?
restive peak
Tindral is so easy yet still...hard? It was wild wiping to it on reclear
upper mica
tepid is still the go to vial?
past pivot
That without phial and hiissing?
with hissing, no phial or food
warm crag
tepid is still the go to vial?
for prog, yes
eternal sundial
Tindral is so easy yet still...hard? It was wild wiping to it on reclear
He streams it so see it next time
restive peak
He streams it so see it next time
No like we did too, we recleared 7/9 in like 55mins
upper mica
and for m+?
warm crag
if you only care about raw damage you can use corrupting rage
fleet parrot
for prog, yes
If not?
restive peak
Then just beat our heads on tindral like wtf?
wild mural
S O A K
calm mantle
with hissing, no phial or food
Ah yeah you have a bit more vers, which I'd probably get if I changed to vers gems.
past pivot
and for m+?
If you have to ask, tepid is for you for everything
warm crag
but if you are using corrupted on prog i will destroy you
past pivot
Ah yeah you have a bit more vers, which I'd probably get if I changed to vers ge...
I have the leggo. The leggo like vers
wild mural
No like we did too, we recleared 7/9 in like 55mins
My guild struggled with Dathea on reclear
In vault
restive peak
I was a big run corrupting but swapped to Tepid for everything
It's just safer, the dps diff is miniscule as fuck anyway
warm crag
silence