fury

[cunning igloo]

drop me your hardest MF DOOM bars

[fading sky]

Aka denmark

[cunning igloo]

lol

[night dune]

I feel like saying anything from Rap Snitch Knishes is an instant DQ here

Too easy an answer

[lofty delta]

we're wiping before i get the chance to use my CD's on Mindral and man does my dps look bad because of it xD

i hope holding them for that long is worth it

[warm crag]

it is worth not perishing

[lofty delta]

first night of prog so the wiping is fine, still learning

[naive summit]

Yo guys how do I get the most boss dmg done on tindal

My guild wants me to focus on single target dmg so I'm assuming that's spear+ execute talents

But my main concern is that when looking at the top boss dmg logs for fury war, they all run roar and whirlwind talents. Why is that?

[frosty patrol]

warrior is one of the best classes to kill roots

tell your guild they're bad

[wary fjord]

Tell your guild they are dumb

[naive summit]

I think our comp is just super cleave heavy

[clever belfry]

u never never

drop WW talents

on that boss

[cunning igloo]

rapp snitches knishes is the "normie song" but thats just because its the most well known, its still a banger song

[clever belfry]

u lose almost nothing in terms of ST

[frosty patrol]

unless your comp is like 9 warriors you should be one of the aoe spec classes

[ember apex]

ok bro i literally just went thru this whole thing with my RL

my RL literally was in this discord 3 days ago

because of it

basically what we concluded was

fury warrior keep aoe talents, most other specs goe ST

and enforce the ST stuff on them

[wary fjord]

Yeah, tell the other specs to ST

[naive summit]

You see, I think the same thing

But the problem is I have really good parses

So they will think I just want to pad

[wary fjord]

Tell them to come to the warrior discord so we can uniformly inform them they are dumb

[naive summit]

Lmaooo might stir bad vibes

[ember apex]

#fury message

start reading here

no joke

[naive summit]

Kk

[ember apex]

we just had this full blown convo 3 days ago

nomas is my RL

[naive summit]

Will loom at it

Look

Having a meeting later to go over this with them because they are unsure as well

I'll go over top boss dmg loorgs

[ember apex]

i did that as well

what u need to do

[naive summit]

I'll also go over my Sims with execute talent vs whirlwind

[ember apex]

is filter out who isnt going up

b/c top warrior boss damage

literally never go up

[naive summit]

Because I know there's no difference lol

Oh

[ember apex]

so u need to make sure

[naive summit]

I see how do I do that

[errant steppe]

another week im the last person to not have the legendary... now even my guilds alts have it

fucking great game

[ember apex]

that u filter logs specifically for boss damage WITH the umm bomb

here ill show u

ill get u the exact link even better

[wary fjord]

Like, we were built for tindral roots

[wild mural]

my monitor turned off mid pull

xd

still 3rd on dps

[ember apex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/35#boss=2786&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&metric=bossdps&search=abilities.425610

[lofty delta]

ok, we got there, worth

[ember apex]

u know how to find a spell ID right

this makes sure you're getting specifically warriors who are getting bombs at least one time

make sure u check the logs closely, some of them get only 1 bomb and then do like 190k ST dps

but they have like 10-20sec of extra globals on boss

[naive summit]

ah bet ty

also before p3 my best pull is 160k boss dmg

[sullen dove]

@ember apex can we see your certifications

sim this morning was kinda…

[fallen ginkgo]

yo, do lesser embers still dropp from hc bosses even if i killed hc fyrak already?

[sullen dove]

drop the 70 page thesis

[naive summit]

is that good if haven't done the supernova cd set and the execute cd set?

[sullen dove]

yeah lessers small chance from any heroic or mythic boss

[naive summit]

the raid brought up that I did less boss dmg than the aoe people on a lot of pulls

[sullen dove]

Killing fyrakk before or after them shouldn’t impact drop rate

[warm crag]

hmmge?

[sullen dove]

questioning his doctorate

[covert blaze]

[warm crag]

arent you significantly before execute

• forced to hold your main cd until 0:51

[naive summit]

yea

[wild mural]

can I get a doctorate

[ember apex]

so show them those logs and then point out that most of them are going up less than all 3 times and then note that fury warrior is prob one of the worst specs in the entire game at ST damage on that boss fight specifically

our frost dk boosted a sub rogue, did a week of m+, got 1 vault and was doing like 40k more ST dps than me on tindral

thats how bad it is

[naive summit]

I'm guessing they put me in for single target since I was top dps on nymue

[ember apex]

we have a diff role on tindral

the entire reason our tierset is OF is for root breaks on tindral

[sullen dove]

yea i mean, holding cds for roots just kinda equals “I am not here to do boss dam”

[ember apex]

our role isnt on this boss to pump ST damage, its to enforce ST on classes that lose a lot to get aoe

[sullen dove]

You can try and prio boss a little bit with decent bb usage and shit like that and go after that a bit more heavily but I don’t think you gonna be doin that much more boss dmg for if

[ember apex]

but my guild is having the same issue

[red yew]

Ya carlo

[sullen dove]

by that I mean sometimes when I do the 50 second pop everything I might not send off all bbs before I fly up

tryina do that more often

[ember apex]

so on 50sec specifically u need to be standing in feather so u can fly up insta

1 sec delay = some range die

i caused like 2 wipes b/c i was greeding globals

[naive summit]

yea exactly

[sullen dove]

yea there’s a decent cast time for if

[naive summit]

but then why is it that all the top boss dmg on loorgs do that?

[sullen dove]

It’s not like I need to run out .1 second after the swirlies appear but within a sec or 2

[ember apex]

do what?

hold CDs?

[naive summit]

if you could just focus on single target, wouldn't there be a boss dmg log that FAR outclasses the wars that hold?

[ember apex]

our shit is set in stone we need to pop at 51sec and at 2min42sec

[sullen dove]

I mean every log will hold cds because that’s just what you do

[ember apex]

thats like non-negotiable almost

[clever belfry]

groups with 2 rets and 3 hunters:

[sullen dove]

saying “if people focused on st/used cds on boss they would do way more st damage than those on top logs” yeah it’s not wrong, but literally nobody is doing that

[naive summit]

i think there was one guy

but hes not even top boss dmg lol

[sullen dove]

the legendary single target fury

[ember apex]

whats gonna happen is ur RL is gonna pull ppl off of aoe and ur aoe daamage is gonna matter more

[sullen dove]

Should just go arms atp

[naive summit]

yea i checked arms

[ember apex]

dont go fucken arms

[naive summit]

and the boss dmg was about the same lol

[sullen dove]

arms is like 50x worse at roots so they just don’t do roots and do boss

[naive summit]

and im not tryna play a spec thats half as tanky

[ember apex]

imagine now u want to global boss but ur stuck in a root

[sullen dove]

bladestorm stonks

[ember apex]

we have a warrior that only ONLY ever plays arms

and he was sitting in roots

[clever belfry]

noober

[ember apex]

he benched himself

[warm crag]

noober

[ember apex]

he says f this meme fight

[sullen dove]

does bro know he can make it go away by hitting n and clicking 2 buttons

[ember apex]

yeah they cant break every root set tho

[clever belfry]

? u OF every set

[sullen dove]

by hitting n and clicking 2 buttons I’m referring to swapping to fury

[clever belfry]

or well not in p2 ig, but u fly some so

[ember apex]

ahok

[ember apex]

talkin about that arms warr

[clever belfry]

yes

[naive summit]

ah so if you dont root break every set u just lose boss dam since u cant hit boss?

[sullen dove]

[clever belfry]

if ur tanks arent ass and u position right u should be able to hit

[ember apex]

as arms that happens

[sullen dove]

i mean usually boss should be within range, but tanks might move to get mushrooms

that’s separate tho

[ember apex]

as fury we break our own roots every time

[sullen dove]

U of just for damage, and it so happens u also get broken out

Which is nice bonus

[clever belfry]

the only time u really care about the break is roots 2 in p1

and the last roots most guilds skip now

[ember apex]

51sec

[clever belfry]

ye

those are overlaps with fire beams that are spooky

if u dont have freedom

[sullen dove]

Ima keep it a buck I like find it really easy to know where to drop my root on that set to not get hit by a beam the whole time but I can’t describe it to my raid

[clever belfry]

did u do

8 beam tindral

or just 6 beam

[ember apex]

b/c we can break insta

thats why its easy

[sullen dove]

it’s like inerva you just very slightly go to one side of an oncoming beam, and do the same with the other beam

[ember apex]

do the same thing but plant there for 10sec

[sullen dove]

Nah aside from me breaking I’m sure I could plant and not get run over that whole set

[clever belfry]

on 6 beam its not too hard imo

but on 8 beam it was hell

[sullen dove]

wasn’t 8 beam one of the like first nerfs

def never saw that

[clever belfry]

it was like world 50 ish

when they removed a boim

[sullen dove]

first nerfs after the mid-rwf nerf to make the boss killable

[young swan]

8 beam was miserable

[sullen dove]

beam was removed like 2 weeks ago

if that’s what u mean, or u sayin another beam was removed

like a full cast of beam

[clever belfry]

no

the beam used to spawn 8 beams

[wild mural]

remove all the beams

[clever belfry]

now it spawns 6

[warm crag]

@clever belfry im at -6 inky blacks

[clever belfry]

noob spongie

tell neo to stop die to dot

[warm crag]

i will consider

[sullen dove]

o removed a boim was meant for removing the 2 beam

ye

[warm crag]

@gleaming siren is malding

[clever belfry]

@gleaming siren stop mald

ye with 8 beams there was

A LOT less space

[young swan]

ur actually just piss chilling now

like u can just stand still and not get hit

cause theres just 0 beams

i know this because i fat fingered avatar on pull and lived 2nd roots

[sour badger]

Omg it became so much smoother once I equipped 2 2 handers

Already lvl 20

[sullen dove]

what

bro is leveling in duskwood?!?

[young swan]

I should hope so, u cant use RB without 2 2handers

or rampage

or execute

I think at least

maybe u can use execute

[dull sierra]

50 had killed and like 100+ on prog when they did that yea

was so noticable

[warm crag]

how the fuck do you wipe to seeds in tindral i do not understand

it is not understandable for me

[clever belfry]

very much so

[warm crag]

there are 12 fucking seeds for 20 people

[dull sierra]

because ooga booga i hit boss

[sullen dove]

El no comprende

[sour badger]

I’ve just today started wow and till lvl 15 was using only 1 2 hander because I thought that Titan grip is a talent I need to use my skill points into

[sullen dove]

run

[young swan]

nope! just a passive

[sour badger]

And then reading spell book realised it was a automatically learned from lvl 11

[young swan]

enjoy the ride :)

[sour badger]

I learned execute in tutorial and could use it with sword and shield

[sour badger]

Enjoying it a lot

Thought fury is super slow

But it was just me and my mistake of not understanding correctly

[wary fjord]

Its one of the fastest specs in the game later

[oblique trail]

It is very possible if people do not pay attention consistently when seeds happen and don't move out for them =)

[clever path]

welcome to the game

be sure to check out paladin

[warm crag]

this is impossible if you call yourself a mythic raider and care about killing bosses

your entire screen goes orange

[dull sierra]

spongie

arent you in turtles

[warm crag]

you literally get flashbanged like this cs memes where your entire screen lights up

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flashbang-gif-25002731

[warm crag]

ye

[dull sierra]

okay yea

[oblique trail]

I would not say anything but do not look at my guilds tindral wipes

[dull sierra]

gg just people padding

its reclear so you can clearly just ignore seeds

[wild mural]

[warm crag]

ur screen

looks like this

and u have a weakaura that says soak

this is ur screen during seeds

how do u miss this

[clever path]

lollers

wtf

[oblique trail]

I do not wish to comment further otherwise my officers might see it and consider me a liability for team morale

[wild mural]

I am a liability

[wild mural]

I dont have anything like that and I dont miss soak

[indigo quarry]

do like me

wait til everybody got one

[red yew]

Officers, this man right here

[indigo quarry]

and leap if necessary

[amber arch]

Second Wind is kind of sick this week

[eternal sundial]

inspiring presence had low pickrate

[amber arch]

but what do you give up for it? Stormbolt or crushing force?

I dropped CF because slam is like 0.9% of my DPS

[clever path]

crushing force

useless

one of the many dogshit dps talents

[oblique trail]

This is what I did and was told I should be the first to leap out instead so people don't walk out to the far out one's towards the end of their lifespan

[oblique trail]

👮

[warm crag]

both approaches are valid

[oblique trail]

They are

[indigo quarry]

when we are the best to clutch with that ability

i cant smh my head

there are only 12 now

do you do the U shape kinda ?

[oblique trail]

@rain lake

[oblique trail]

I guess it's like a half circle, I dont really pay much attention to the shape of their spread

[rain lake]

??

[oblique trail]

=)

Just saw you typing

[rain lake]

just wanted to say that i reported you to the officers

for talking shit about the guild 🙂

[oblique trail]

Gg

[indigo quarry]

snitch

[clever path]

snitch

[wild mural]

syi moment

[clever path]

부두교 moment

[covert blaze]

[rain lake]

just securing my raid spot

[oblique trail]

Understandable gotta use every trick in the book

[indigo quarry]

no honor

[warm crag]

i will apply and steal your spot

you should fear for your life

[compact siren]

her moment

[rain lake]

shiver my timbers

[rain lake]

i can't compete in game so gotta use some other tactics

[forest owl]

another week no legendary for my guild, what is this shit i mean come on

the tier is pretty much over and we still grinding like slaves for this thing

[clever path]

yep

[grim tree]

Hey guys. New Fyralath owner. Any info out there with how our stats should look going forward with the haste buff on the axe?

[quaint stag]

10 hc kills and 9 full clears and no legendary

[slim coral]

stats don't matter just sim gear as you go

[quaint stag]

5 hc clears on my alt warrior and no leggo either. Shits annoying

[grim tree]

I was hoping for a better discussion rather than "stats don't matter" but ok. Guess I'll just DPS naked

[graceful drift]

Well he said, you should sim yourself. There is no answer more accurate than that tbh

[grim tree]

I do sim myself. It wasn't part of the question.

But thanks anyway I guess

[slim coral]

I mean it's the correct answer

there is not perfect stat percentage

[eternal sundial]

itll go more vers

sims will tell u that

[slim coral]

never trust human

only robot

[bright bough]

Is there a way to sim/compare consumables like food+phial/runes?

[slim coral]

yeah it's at the bottom

below the patchwork option

[bright bough]

But I can't compare howling vs buzzing vs whatever directly? I just have to quick sim all 3 separately and compare the dps number?

[slim coral]

yes

[bright bough]

kk ty

[restive peak]

Imagine getting snippy with @slim coral for being honest and upfront with the correct answer lmao

Here let me help

[restive peak]

You want 70% haste unbuffed it’s the only way to swing fast and furious like vin diesel. You’re welcome.

[covert blaze]

no

paste your string on an advanced sim

and paste this at the end

copy="Primal Whetstone -> Attack Power"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="Buzzing Rune -> Crit"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3
copy="Howling Rune -> Haste"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Hissing Rune -> Mastery"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[bright bough]

Hmm this can't be right lol. Not sure what it's assuming my default is?

[eternal sundial]

ur default is mast

[covert blaze]

voodoo

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[bright bough]

But mastery is below that? I guess just variation in the sim

[covert blaze]

margin of error is around 100~ dps iirc

just using hissing is the right play like 99% of the time btw

[hasty path]

Margin of error in that is shown as the blue “sidegrade” bar on the left side

[bright bough]

Okay wasn't sure because 1 target has me using hissing, dslice is howling and aoe is buzzing lol

[cyan turtle]

rip bois lost augur to a mage with 50k dps, i rolled 99 and he 100

sadge

[hasty path]

Well now he’ll do more Dps. Think about it

[covert blaze]

[cyan turtle]

fu

[bright bough]

This was dope though, thanks for the info!

[covert blaze]

[hasty path]

I know kung fu

👊

[covert blaze]

smoked a new opp; his meat came right off the bone

[hasty path]

I’m gonna beat u with the buttstock of my modified custom ar-15

[cyan turtle]

finally got 4 set tho

so atleast its something

ill shirley get the trinket from the quest box

[dapper goblet]

[wild mural]

new best 36.3%

dead tonight surely

[dapper goblet]

p3 easy part

voodoo though

[wild mural]

surely

[clever path]

voodoo

[slim coral]

5 more spots left in hof

[clever path]

tbf its wednesday

1 entire week

[slim coral]

Idk what happened to Honolulu but they might not make it

Crazy they had a huge downfall

Went from 17th world to this

[warm crag]

they cooked

[wild mural]

sleepy

[clever path]

drama or

[slim coral]

Idk ask the eu players

[covert blaze]

they disbanded

i think half the guild left or something

[daring zephyr]

we game now boys

[dapper goblet]

they died

and reformed or something

something to do with the gm

[ember apex]

wasn't honolulu an* illidan-us guild?

[dapper goblet]

i'm sure theres multiple guilds with that name

[amber arch]

Wafting of sophic for weapons?

[wild mural]

sim it

[brave totem]

is fury better on tyra weeks rn?

[ocean dragon]

yep

[brave totem]

on forti arms is slightly better i beleive?

[sullen dove]

i mean kinda depends on the rest of your group

[ocean dragon]

highly depends what u are doing

[sullen dove]

im sure arms when fully speced into it does way more aoe than fury

but fury is the like "decent aoe but huge single target" dmg niche so generally its more favorable

[ocean dragon]

i only play arms on fort eb and brh

[sullen dove]

arms you have to be a little bit more picky choosey with if youre going more for aoe or st, but its been a lot better recently

like the normal jugg build still pretty potent in aoe while maintaining boss dam

just kinda give up a decent bit of st if u go for bladestorm talents

[ember apex]

what are arms stat prios generally for s3 i dont even know

[sullen dove]

prolly the same crit haste mostly

then more of the other shit as is standard

[ember apex]

dude ive played arms on two bosses my entire life. mythic sylv and mythic kurog

it was miserable both times

[ocean dragon]

thing is

[sullen dove]

idk arms on kurog was pretty damn good

[ocean dragon]

jugg sims higher aoe and similiar st as fury for me

[ember apex]

nah u were playing the meme build

[sullen dove]

unless u were also doin it pre 10.0.5 before arms got big talent overhauls making it way better on kurog

[ember apex]

spamming IP and shit

[ocean dragon]

but on 28s living as arms is the problem

[sullen dove]

not rly a meme build its just... an extra button to press

[ember apex]

oh 28s bruh i got 0 idea

[sullen dove]

it was chill

[modest condor]

i dont think arms has a problem on 28s yet

[ember apex]

its a meme build b/c ur pressing a DR absorb shield for dps rotation b/c it costs rage and is off gcd

[ocean dragon]

i tried it on 28s today and it felt really bad but might just be me being fury brain

[ember apex]

thats like needing to press spell reflect on CD to get another bonus stack of frenzy or some shit

its a meme

[sullen dove]

i mean ok... having perma uptime on ignore pain was pretty good too

whether or not someone likes it up to them ig, i mean sure it was cringe and ppl complain "wah defensive ability shouldnt be used for offense" then ppl wanna taunt reflect every possible mechanic they can

[ember apex]

of course pressing a defensive global is good defensively, thats not what im saying

[sullen dove]

and if its just the off gcd aspect thats bad 1 button every 10 seconds or so kinda chill compared to some shit like fire mage

[ember apex]

i never want to taunt reflect b/c my guild would just let me die

[sullen dove]

well theres almost never anything to taunt reflect in raid

[ember apex]

'was it worth it'
'....kinda'

[sullen dove]

thats mostly for just dungeons

[ember apex]

yeah but u get what im sayin

like kurog arms build was goofy AF

especially too b/c that add spawned at like 4sec into the fight

[sullen dove]

i mean its not just kurog arms build

it was just the arms build

had nothing to do with kurog

[ember apex]

nah u played a modified version specifically for kurog

[sullen dove]

you took improved sweeping strikes

that was it

[ember apex]

that was a 2 target cleave

[sullen dove]

everything else stayed the same

[ember apex]

yeah but ur doing meme shit like thunderclapping on 2 targets and Ignore Pain etc...

[sullen dove]

you thunderclapped on single target too...

well

maybe not s1 when you had cleave

[ember apex]

thats even more meme

[sullen dove]

but also i dont think u had cleave on that boss no real reason to

but arms has thunderclapped on single target on cooldown for all of s2

just nothing rly better to spend the rage on

[clever path]

29s 30s

28s u just have to ignore pain

dstance

u are fine

[amber arch]

I did, wafting comes out on top for patchwerk but like 1min 5 bosses is sophic

main stat seems better than haste...

[true girder]

Anyone know what the deal is with sharing legendary quest? i saw Critcake talking about it

[sullen dove]

uh i think you share an item to make part of a quest easier

increase droprate of the leaves or some shit

[sinful spoke]

Ye

[true girder]

ah cool tyty

[ocean dragon]

might be cause im low vers gaming due to some unfortunate crafting decisions

[wild mural]

deadge soon surely

you know what I think they should do

they should buff fury

[sullen dove]

i mean until recently wasnt necessary

[hearty surge]

jesus christ what is dk dmg

[sullen dove]

but at this point shits kinda cringe

[hearty surge]

that was 27 throne btw

[sullen dove]

he is attacking

what is mage doing better question

[ember apex]

did yall time it

[hearty surge]

We timed key with 5 minutes left

[ember apex]

ok pog

[hearty surge]

so it was fine

[ember apex]

crazy b/c mage had vers buff plus magic dmg buff from DH

[hearty surge]

The dk did really good dmg

I couldve done like maybe 10-20k more without silly mistakes

warrior dmg is so trash I swear

[ember apex]

did u die

[hearty surge]

Yeh I died in a pack once

[ember apex]

yeah our tier doesnt cleave, if they keep s3 tier for s4 hopefully they fix

[hearty surge]

thats why I said it

[sullen dove]

they wont and they also wont

game is bad like that

[ember apex]

ok wellthats good b/c s2 cleaves so idc

[sullen dove]

yea that goes in the other direction of aoe dmg way better but piss single target

[hearty surge]

But still

[sullen dove]

but ey

what can ya do

[hearty surge]

it feels bad to be gapped by like 80k

without making major mistakes

[sullen dove]

the guy was just himothy

sometimes you run into them

[hearty surge]

I mean im getting to the key level where people actually play their classes

[ember apex]

this is what it feels like to do a key w/ a DH who knows how to play the game btw

was the mage FS, hybrid or ignite only

[hearty surge]

Uh

Ignite only

[ember apex]

makes sense

pog

[dusty brook]

can the legendary drop on each fyrakk difficulty? should i clear hc/nhc/browser each week?

[modest condor]

yes it can, no you shouldnt

just do the highest difficulty you can

it rolls for all the lower difficulties as well

[tardy lark]

BLP is a lie

[clever path]

no leggo?

[dusty brook]

thank you!

[tardy lark]

we're just inting reclear so idk yet xd

[clever path]

surely you get it

[tardy lark]

died to a seed misrtake last phase and then people tilt xd

[clever path]

unlucky

[hearty surge]

What is

fucking last boss

on atal dazar

tyrannical

???

[amber arch]

hahahah

🕷️

[grim tree]

Got mine 2nd kill after not getting any legos since Legion 🙂 BLP is real.

[tardy lark]

Nah i expect not to get it before projections say 100%

[clever path]

same

[tardy lark]

kinda cba trying to perform until then

[modest condor]

same

tbh even after i get it

no wft

like this tier has just completely ruined my enjoyment of raiding

[clever path]

tindral ruined my enjoyment of livng

and breathing

[modest condor]

being permanently 30k behind because i get unlucky with a weapon and we dont have an enhance

[clever path]

same actually

no wft either

enhance quit due to irl stuff

[tardy lark]

just kill off raidbuffs man

let world first raiders stack 8 boomkins if they like

[clever path]

they wont do it cause world first is popular as fuck and brings money

tindral is a boss designed around world first

there is no way anyone thinks the first iteration is even possible for a regular guild

[tardy lark]

we almost killed that pre nerfs

[clever path]

8 beams one

[tardy lark]

so sad we didnt get it

[clever path]

pre 8 beams?

that looks so ridiculous idk

[tardy lark]

i played rogue so that part was easy

🤷‍♀️

[clever path]

true

too bad 1 player makes a mistake and

its gone

[tardy lark]

we were kinda sad having boss at 6% and consistent p3 pulls and then he got neutered like he did

now im just happy hes an easy oneshot on reclears

[clever path]

ye unlucky

u know its bad when project had like 300 pulls

when they kill bosses in 1/2 pulls of big guilds like echo

[tardy lark]

ye project are gamers

[dire badge]

I’m gonna one shot u

[tardy lark]

uwu

[dire badge]

I’m back to reading one punch man

[clever path]

i hope they dont do legendaries anymore

at least not like this

i love being 15k dps behind cause of bad luck

very cool system

and god knows how much in aoe

[tardy lark]

having leggo "guaranteed" eventually just feels bad every week you dont get it

[tardy lark]

someone on the CR account i leech on is also watching it

did something new come or

[clever path]

they shouldve just made it 10 lessers or something

numbers dont matter really

if u play at a higher level u should get it earlier imo

cause it matters a lot more to you than an lfr raider

that just wants the transmog

[tardy lark]

I would like it that way, but dont necessarily agree that i deserve it more than Joe doing LFR with his morning coffee

[hardy cargo]

Just make the embers a quest item that after you obtain say 6 from whatever difficulty you turn the quest in for the axe

[clever belfry]

just seven

imo

[hardy cargo]

So then you know you’ll get it by x date if you get it sooner you were lucky pog

[clever path]

^

but its not a 2 month difference

[clever belfry]

any sane human agrees

[clever path]

when the prog is over

and u lost 15k dps on every single boss

at least

[clever belfry]

unfortunately the people designing legendaries obviously arent sane

[dire badge]

no it’s just very good

[clever path]

u lost more than 15k cause there is aoe and the axe is cracked

[hardy cargo]

[tardy lark]

farting at people and drinking breast milk does that to a person

or was the farting thing at riot

[dire badge]

dude my work is so lame I hear like maybe one racist thing a month or so

[clever belfry]

???

[dire badge]

A completely sane work place

[hardy cargo]

Rookie numbers

[fickle bone]

goin with the mythic warior for x reset again on fyrak, alt holly 2x week palla gets the leggo. still 0 in our main mythic group

[dire badge]

Old white guys can’t help it it’s so cringe

[clever belfry]

u should come to europe

[tardy lark]

im the only one in our guild that doesnt have it

[dire badge]

[fickle bone]

[clever belfry]

germans when the person that isnt skin_tone 0 isnt a doctor:

[fickle bone]

I am officially off wow now and going to play minecraft. No leggo, I am done.

[dire badge]

finally a good game

[fickle bone]

ATM7 to the Sky

[clever belfry]

thats so king honestly

im modpack hater

[dire badge]

soaking honestly

[clever belfry]

i just build very cringe big stuff in vanilla

(i am deranged)

me when the farm needs a perimeter:

[dire badge]

4x4 dirt house night 1

[gleaming siren]

If I see Kill Cleave one more time I will lose all my hair

[clever belfry]

surely kill cleave was the issue

[clever path]

hole in the wall

1 torch

[dire badge]

[clever path]

chest crafting table and furnace

based

[fickle bone]

zuging in minecraft. At least you feel rewarded

[clever belfry]

LoFi Stundenvergehen Jazz Billie Jeans

@gleaming siren @warm crag

[warm crag]

vc now

[tardy lark]

Jaaarh

sehr gut

[clever belfry]

im already in one...

[warm crag]

thats okay

[clever belfry]

i am deeply sorryus

[gleaming siren]

It wasnt

but why play Kill Cleave losing infinite ST if you're gonna not Kill Cleave anyway

[thorny peak]

is there any other 2hander mogs that are like the dragonslayers ?

[clever path]

Flamebound is no longer a private aura
Shadowbound is no longer a private aura.

[thorny peak]

man im never seeing that fight

[clever path]

such a qol change its crazy

[sullen dove]

i KNOW i deserve it more than the 40 yo dad with 3 kids doing his weekly lfr run

[tardy lark]

you pay the same 15 bucks a month

🤷‍♀️

[clever belfry]

but they would be KCing

if they u know

held a KC charge

but thats dented af

[sullen dove]

my achievement points are higher, ergo, i am the more important player

[tardy lark]

makes sense

[marble schooner]

there was a way to sim specific raid bosses right?

[mossy fox]

it's actually so bad

[summer quail]

the no enhance is the worst, so noticeable

[mossy fox]

it's a good change

i didn't expect a nerf like that

[tardy lark]

it also just FEELS worse gameplay wise

Leggo is just a dps meter thing

[summer quail]

exactly

[balmy shore]

we just got through the intermission lolol

[tardy lark]

we inted reclear so i have to either boost or pug HC

[sullen dove]

from a completely outsider's point of view with no experience on that boss at all in my head im like how is hitting a macro to just stand in a line a problem for anyone

like i imagine making it not private just makes it slightly more convenient and wa just auto assigns you a place to stand

but just like

[tardy lark]

If SOMEONE doesnt press the macro, the entire thing fucks up

[sullen dove]

find a place to stand where someone isnt

[dense elbow]

Ya not seen my smolderon pulls

[clever path]

gameplay fucking sucks

without wf

long st fights are just so painful

[mossy fox]

kinda impossible to yolo that flame orb/shadow orb intermission

[humble plover]

I see fire and hear meow so I press macro

[dense elbow]

Meow is best sound

[mossy fox]

the cages are fine to yolo solve without WAs though

[clever path]

leggo sucks cause there is no way to get it if u are unlucky

[balmy shore]

im just confused how blizz thinks the raid gets through intermission natty

[clever path]

doesnt matter if u are revvez or an lfr andy

[tardy lark]

Are you an ethical 2min potter or 4min degen pad potter @mossy fox

[sullen dove]

ig just hearing you need to "prog the weakaura" on that boss like i can not understand that shit

[balmy shore]

like you split the raid into left right and then yolo orbs??

[mossy fox]

that's i1 pot innit

[sullen dove]

unless hitting the keybind is the actual prog

[mossy fox]

i1 pot, then lust p3 pot

[balmy shore]

what if you don't have enough on one side

[summer quail]

yee, thankfully we have a pretty consistent shaman this tier. only missed 1 day, didn't have wft for aberrus at all tho. felt like shit

[balmy shore]

super weird

[tardy lark]

you lust after first roar?

[mossy fox]

yeah

[clever path]

i stg it sucks even more as arms

u get into execute phase

and u cant press abilities

u otherwise could

actually nah it sucks more on fury

[tardy lark]

you can pot at like 3:50 for add pad and have pot for second set of CDs in p3

not that i'd ever do that obv

[mossy fox]

what add pad

[sullen dove]

[balmy shore]

ethical adds

[tardy lark]

they have to die

[mossy fox]

i think the mage/lock/dh just do too much to them tbh

prolly just can't do good logs on pad fights this tier

well, would need the legendary to do that, too

[tardy lark]

im just hard afk on warrior till i get it tbh

glad i dont have a stream to keep alive

[mossy fox]

i stopped caring about logs man

[summer quail]

idk, maybe you can go arms for good log on the colossi?

[tardy lark]

samesies

[mossy fox]

i should be the last person to stop caring about logs

[tardy lark]

missing 12k simdps and an extra aoe button just makes it impossible

like Walli showed up to raid the week after he got leggo and only missed 1 rank 1

[mossy fox]

[clever path]

its impossible to do aoe damage without it

sucks

[balmy shore]

kinda hate not caring about logs

but it's so pointless rn

[tardy lark]

Logs is what makes reclears fun for me

[summer quail]

feels fukd when crit doesn't care about logs. holy moly

[tardy lark]

when i have 0 chance of doing top10s i just cba

[summer quail]

that's when you know it's abd

bad

[balmy shore]

ur fine

xd

[clever path]

"he seems just fine"

surely

[tardy lark]

I mean the guy is correct. Its not like it makes or breaks the class

its just like having Sephuz and Prydaz compared to MS leggo start of Legion

[mossy fox]

it does make or break the kind of content i push

but

[tardy lark]

you're just doing 60k dps less when starting the pull

[mossy fox]

i could also just play a different class that doesn't have this problem

[clever path]

fire warrior

[summer quail]

critmage

[modest condor]

stop complaining crit you're doing just fine

[clever path]

who came up with the idea of not making fyralath guaranteed on mythic

[tardy lark]

your class of choice kind of makes or breaks that more than the fact that you dont have leggo on warrior ye

[clever path]

whats the point of the legendary if the prog is over anyways

might as well give it

[tardy lark]

but as you can see, youre doing fine

[modest condor]

m+

[mossy fox]

yeah man

[clever path]

ye but a very small % of people actually push where it matters

just give it to ce havers

reclears mean nothing

give the leggo so people can do m+

and not suffer

[modest condor]

tbf anybody who is pushing "needs" the legendary

[summer quail]

imagine maining warrior, only an idiot would main warrior(it's me, i'm the idiot)

[clever path]

in m+ leggo is very noticable

[mossy fox]

i stg 90% of str users i see in m+ pugs have the weapon

[clever path]

same

[modest condor]

just because someone caps out at +26 doesn't mean a legendary wouldn't help them

[tardy lark]

Thats the "you dont need to play with meta classes" argument though

ofc you dont HAVE to, but it does make it easier

[clever path]

i worded it badly

i wanted to say it makes no sense for it not to be guaranteed off of mythic kills

prog is over give leggo to people so they can do m+ or w/e

[tardy lark]

doubt the leggo is the difference between Crits team doing a 30 or 31, but having the lack of it possibly being the issue feels real bad

[clever path]

it does make up for ur lack of sustained aoe ngl

and the new active can be very useful

"new"

[summer quail]

majority of the time it prob isn't, there's prob gonna be a time where it would be the difference tho

[tardy lark]

wouldnt know

[clever path]

[mossy fox]

we have actually started running into dps issues now

[sullen dove]

free 2million more boss damage on tindral with onuse

[clever path]

is qrva beating u on st i watched ur 29 dht and u beat him hard on last boss which is like the only st boss in that dungoen

but u played signet

[summer quail]

didn't watch the key but spell reflects can help alot on that boss. that is if you don't try to rng sr the channel thing to negate it

[mossy fox]

but ret buffs, qrva looting leggo, rsham buffs, me swapping to arms after buffs (still need to check i can actually survive the big hitters on push keys) all contribute a lot to dps, so maybe it's about surviving again now, idk

[summer quail]

[clever path]

idk its weirdge that fury didnt get a sustained aoe buff

but tbf its a tierset issue

[summer quail]

it's coz of raid. very rare that something gets buffed coz of m+. has there like actually been a case where that has happened?

[sullen dove]

just let the bb's cleave man...

[clever path]

there is no sustained in raid

its all burst

except larodar maybe

even on m fyrakk shit dies fast

[summer quail]

or atleast make the bbs guaranteed crit so we get some cshb benefit. could be like a middle ground if the damage effect is too strong on cleave

but blizz cba

[sullen dove]

[amber arch]

how the fk do you do falls slime boss>

that orb ticks twice and insta kills a dps

do you just pass straight to tank every time?

[clever path]

corrosion?

[oak peak]

Definitely need defensives to hold it

[clever path]

tanks should take it instantly

[amber arch]

ya im usually okay enough but other DPS were getting deleted if I passed it to them

I thought you had to pass it to like 1 oor 2 dps in the second phase?

just tried 23

[modest condor]

it's just the initial hit that hurts

the dot ticks for very little

on a +23 you shouldnt even get close to dying as a warrior even without a defensive, but you can just press sr if it's on you or follow up with an IV if you have to take it from the tank for a second

[amber arch]

ya I was fine

hunter and rogue were falling over in 2 ticks

so do i pass straight to tank?

[modest condor]

then they must have been low

[amber arch]

nope full HP

[modest condor]

definitely not

on a 23 that wouldnt kill

in p1 you instantly pass it to the tank, in p2 you wait for the winds to start then you pass it

[amber arch]

i pass it to hunter, first tick dropped down to like 40%, pop a heal, second tick 20%, third tick dead

[amber arch]

pass it to tank right before winds?

[sullen dove]

it'd be during, but just as your debuff boutta fall off

with like 1-2 seconds left

that way it'd get sucked up by boss b4 it expires on tank

any earlier prolly have to bounce back and forth again

but its like, either right after the first or second pulse of tornadoes, you toss over to tank

and bing chillin

[amber arch]

debuff?

[sullen dove]

the slime debuff

[clever path]

dying as fury is a challenge this season

[amber arch]

ya i love it

tanked the first boss of Tides 21 for like a good minute as fury

tank died at 20% or something, tanked a whole intermission phase, then i know 2 of the jumping lightnings went out while i was taking melee hits from her

[sullen dove]

o classroom of the peak episode today w

[hollow ridge]

my enhance shamans paladin alt got lego b4 me

[sudden tusk]

man ireally wanted crit to get it this week

: (

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[dull sierra]

literal same thing happened today

enha pala alt got leggo

me and bdk still dont have

[sullen dove]

me three..

enhance with paladin alt...

this game is bad...

[past pivot]

Your faults for having an enhance of your own ...

[ionic dirge]

Anyone who has leatherworking
Need to craft item for lego will of course pay

[sullen dove]

crafters can only do it for you on your same server

[past pivot]

You know people here are from NA, OCE and EU. Ask your servers/guild/friends. Plus, you need to be in a party to teach them recipe

[sullen dove]

prolly a lot better luck in your own tradechat

[ionic dirge]

I have tried, been dead for like hour 😄

[sullen dove]

[ionic dirge]

Yea sorry I forgot about that, EU

[past pivot]

That means nothing to anyone here. As we said, ask someone on your server. Only way to do it

[ionic dirge]

Yea will try, sorry

[wispy thistle]

I mean its also pretty late where you are at]

[latent urchin]

In ST exe window with jugg, Execute>Ramp ye? and BB>Exe?

[tardy lark]

@dapper goblet did Korea man give you name

[dapper goblet]

no

gave it to myself

[tardy lark]

I thought lore might be cool

It was not

[dapper goblet]

correct

voodoo

[tardy lark]

🔮

[blissful kestrel]

Bb > ramp (unless jug stacks will drop then exe) > exe > bt > slam > ww

[main skiff]

HOW?

[sudden tusk]

big buffs

you also get a bulk amount from the weekly superbloom box

[fallen pivot]

Thinking about crafting a belt, boots, and helm with some extra sparks. Thoughts?

[slim pollen]

Keep in mind you can't catalyze crafty stuff (helm is tier, right?)

[cedar edge]

Crafting legendary would be gigachad

[fallen pivot]

Ye, but I can catalyze the chest

so I'd keep 4pc and get a 486 helm

and then I can finally use some sockets

[slim pollen]

Hmm, not sure if head for enchant buff would be better than for example ring? Ring also comes with free socket

[fallen pivot]

Oh, I have a socket in my bags

I just dont wanna use it on a 483 item for some reason

[past pivot]

For helm, you still want a 489 if you can get one. Helm enchant scales with ilvl. Ring would give you slot for flavor packet. But personally, I'd go farm some good trinkets before crafting stuff. Is that a Mirror and Rezan? For ST?

[tidal kindle]

Real @dapper goblet ?

[sudden tusk]

with cheese?

[dire vigil]

Can they just buff the drop rate?! 😭

[sudden tusk]

[dire vigil]

Next week for sure. Annoyed. Have a quiet weekend coming up and was hype to maybe knock out the quest, but alas… maybe next week

But realistically, Havoc DH szn probably just extends next week.

[naive summit]

how much of a dps increase are the execute talents by themselves

[jovial coral]

Uuuh

Less than 1% maybe

[amber arch]

Wowhead has bis items as crafted wrists and cloak with shadowflame, but I see top fury using vers wrists and crafted ring?

[past pivot]

Allied wrists is almost equal to 2nd SF and helps party and gives defensive boosts. And has synergy with leggo. And crafted ring is for Qol. Flavor packet and optimizing stats and a free socket

With leggo, wrists sims better than SF x 2 for me in ST ATM, as an example but it's close

[worn ibex]

I see a lot about the flavor packet, is it really that beneficial?

[sudden tusk]

its just QoL

but if you die to something in M+ not losing your food buff is nice

[worn ibex]

Oh that makes sense

It’s like 80k gold on my server lol so I was mmm idk lol.

[past pivot]

And in a raid, you can keep your mastery/vers food without needing to east each time

[past pivot]

You can fish up an NPC and loot it for free. Can sell it as well from him

[worn ibex]

Oh damn I’ll have to get on that

[grizzled saffron]

how to survive this pixel range in mythics

[amber arch]

isnt this embellished though? you cant wear this with cloak and wrists?

[past pivot]

Nope, you can wear crafted items like that.

[worn ibex]

The buff on the wrist isn’t an embellishment

[past pivot]

It'll say Dream crafted

[worn ibex]

So you could have ring and clock embellishments with the allied wrists and be good

[past pivot]

For example, I have SF cloak, allied wrists and 2 crafted rings on ATM.

[amber arch]

ya im looking at rings because ive got this 473

but it consistantly sims higher than all my other hero rings for 1 boss, 5 bosses, or dungeon slice (i know, i know)

[past pivot]

Is the ring most craft with the flavor packet. See, it says Dream crafted. The wrists and cloak say "Unique-Embellished (2)"

[amber arch]

ahhh kk im down

my haste will drop below 20% with that though rip

[past pivot]

Flavor packet is like the persistent Augment rune. It's pricey to get but it more than pays for itself over time. And as we all know, time is money friend.

[dusty notch]

hi i've got signet/branch on my war im gearing up mostly for m+, they arent ideal in m+ right? Might + augury/butchers block is what i should be targetting for m+ or?

[past pivot]

Augury and Might are BIS. If no Augury, Crab/Ember/Block/Pips are all solid

[glad storm]

You make it with whatever starts you want. Make it with haste mastery if you want

[dusty notch]

thank you

[past pivot]

Signet is workable under the right circumstances but is can also be a piece of junk if you can't keep stacks up

[past pivot]

RUn haste gem and enchant if you need. Or sim it under droptimzier

[ionic dirge]

I think I have too much haste since I got legendary

Was simming it many times but I just cant find what should I change

30% is too much imo

[summer quail]

sims will tell you if you have too much haste, if it wants you to have less haste it will swap your gems

[ionic dirge]

Yea, it just seems weird 😄

I also saw first two warriors play torch or lariat

But it was still simming less for me

I simmed crafted finger as well and nothing changed D:

[summer quail]

people have different stats, also good chance they don't have the brh neck at 489

[ionic dirge]

But I think I saw some warrior simming ST 250k

Im simming at 242

[past pivot]

I think he was simming with WFT, PI, as human and tweaking consumables

[summer quail]

think i sim 246 last time i checked(normal brand )

[past pivot]

But 250 is about top range for Fury ST right now. Arms just past that now, I think. If they can live

I sim like 245 with WFT, 235 without. And can almost hit 247 or 248 by using rage flask and adding PI, WFT and going human last I checked

[ionic dirge]

OH yea I forgot Im playing useless blood elf..

[astral path]

finally got the legendary

12 weeks later

[ionic dirge]

Might be that

3k dmg less

[astral path]

how do i get ppl to do the superbloom quest w me

[past pivot]

Grats. You still have like 8 weeks or more left in the season to play with it

[ionic dirge]

[past pivot]

Just join a group. There'll be plenty.

[half cargo]

Meanwhile, all 3 of us plate dps in the guild have 0

[past pivot]

Or ask in general

[half cargo]

Been clearing heroic week 1

At least our blood dk has it

[ionic dirge]

We were kinda lucky, 3 people in our main group have lego

Im 4th from today

[half cargo]

That’s huge

[past pivot]

I'm in my 2nd guild this xpac and only plate in either to have gotten it. And only time I've seen it drop on any kill.

[half cargo]

Next week for sure

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[half cargo]

🧎‍♂️

[calm swallow]

Wait are we using wafting dev now?

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[calm swallow]

Wha... I thought... I swear it was double sophic...

[slim coral]

glad they made the private aura change

was cringe

[elder granite]

how can i add leggo cooldown to my weakaura?

[past pivot]

It hasn't been sophic for me for some time. Some people use earthen

[calm swallow]

I need to pay more attention I guess..

[past pivot]

Check Wago. Lots of of them there

[elder granite]

ty

[past pivot]

I haven't been able to get off the double wafting wagon in a long time. For at least 35 ilvl now

[covert blaze]

They fucked something up

Everyone is randomly dc'ing

[slim coral]

Good

[dapper goblet]

pressing macro when red too damn hard

[amber arch]

should I take beserker for DHT?

like last boss if I fear myself during growing para, then beserker does the mechanic go away?

[thorny bramble]

When does s3 end?

[upbeat sentinel]

we dont know

[summer quail]

while we don't know we can guess. think it will be late march

[young swan]

prob another 2 - 3 months yeah

[summer quail]

hoping for april as we just started tswift and CE is looking rough atm

[royal oxide]

is lariet good for us?

[storm rune]

My guild spent last friday wiping to volco for 45 minutes then we decided to call it

Our core team lost all motivation, was pulling in puggles to try to eek out a couple vault slots

No CE this tier ig

[summer quail]

oof i can't even imagine wiping to volcoross for that long xD. think most guilds 1-2 shot it

also if you're on early bosses like volc you're most likely not gonna get CE. time is running out

[storm rune]

5-10 pulls from data aggregation, but yeah we lost half our healers and 3 DPS to IRL shenanigans, backups are dogass sadly

Yeah it is what it is

I'll just live vicariously through y'all until I can recruit more for next xpac

Though I am frustrated that we can 1 shot Gnarl, down Igira in a couple pulls, then floor POV the rest of the night on one of the easiest fights I've ever done

The amount of people I saw soaking flames the second before the timer goes up and getting 1 tapped by the dot was honestly hilarious tho

[jolly quail]

Have a question for mythic smolderon, we deliberately stand in the last set of rings and pop Enraged Regen + Spell Reflect to self sustain through it with spear+buffs correct?

during first intermission

[steel rapids]

Hi, is there somewhere a list of all the best talents for all the bosses in Amidrassil?

[past pivot]

wowhead

raid guide

[steel rapids]

Got it!

Thanks

[oblique trail]

You can do this yes, however you should probably let your rl know first so you won't get flamed for doing it

[jolly quail]

Too late lol, was wanting confirmation that it wasn't just some cheese thing I was seeing

[oblique trail]

It is a damage optimisation that you can reasonably live as Fury, however it's not needed to kill the boss in any capacity

[hasty hedge]

Was planning on crafting a weapon for my fury warrior alt, which missive would you suggest and then... does it matter much if its an axe/sword/mace?

[hardy cargo]

doesnt matter which wep, vers+mastery missive

[hasty hedge]

Quick and simple, thank you!

[lean wasp]

Am gonna do it you should do it, if RL or healers tell you something just tell them all the cool warriors on discord does this

[ebon venture]

normal augury < mythic pips?

[hardy cargo]

if on prog I wouldnt just bc saving personals for times when youll need it is better than taking avoidable dam

[lean wasp]

During cds everything is non-avoidable

[ebon venture]

so i got a mythic pips, currently running a normal augury and a 483 might in m+, should i droip the augury for the mythic pips?

[jolly quail]

i'm worried about how much that will hurt by delaying CD's past those buffs...has to be super trash I imagine

[lean wasp]

Its probably not wise and not needed but if am spending 100+ pulls I don't think i will be needing ER to live at any point in the fight

[junior gale]

you dont wanna delay just full send even if u have to leave ur spear early

then when not in prog u can be a gamer and just eat it with ER and SR

[calm swallow]

What runes do you use?

[past pivot]

Double hissing. Mastery

[sullen dove]

i find not doing it i only delay by like.. 2 more seconds max

[calm swallow]

Okay so at least I'm doing that right lol

[lean wasp]

Am still gonna do it during prog

If am ever getting the kill anyways i better not be taking 5 tornados and needing ER for it

[junior gale]

Claim that external like the man you are

[empty mirage]

just now coming back, what build are we currently on? got my 2 piece atm

[past pivot]

T31

[sullen dove]

u dont need an external for that

just live

[sullen dove]

also idk how else to describe this but honestly i find it sooo fuckin easy to dodge them if you just, take like 2-3 steps away from ones directly pointed at you, then move for ones further away

[hardy cargo]

its over

https://tenor.com/view/avarage-kerem-enjoyer-gif-25921939

[sullen dove]

[amber arch]

Eggshell any good?

I’ve been using signet and might this week on push keys since even if the tank isn’t chaining, the boss fights last a while