fury

[unreal onyx]

I have most of the gear people want, but I am chasing myth track shoulders for 5 weeks now

[restive peak]

Leggo on ret

2nd kill

Fuck this game

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/the-green-mile-gif-231239496849716081

[open prairie]

ngl idk whats with the game allowing you to roll need sometimes

on slots you have higher

[covert blaze]

tertiary maybe

[open prairie]

nah not tert

[covert blaze]

i noticed that too

[past pivot]

Grats. Now you can have 2 leggos and something to do the rest of the season. And CE.

[restive peak]

Ret new main for M+ anyway tbh

[clever path]

wait what

you got lego on ret?

[restive peak]

Yep

And not my warr yet lol

[clever path]

lmao

[restive peak]

CE last night, heroic today, no dice on warr

[unreal onyx]

you only can't roll if you have the item in your bag in same or higher ilvl

[restive peak]

2nd week ret, got it

I knew it

[calm mantle]

Should I try get more crit?

[clever path]

need more leech

[open prairie]

imagine being a ret with lego though

[unreal onyx]

oh no

[open prairie]

and still losing to dhs

[unreal onyx]

we lost another real one

[clever path]

but 20k dps at time tho

[open prairie]

[covert blaze]

ask robot

[calm mantle]

Game won't give it to me.

[open prairie]

i’ve yet to see a dh with double 489 double time

though

[clever path]

grind harder

[covert blaze]

1 thorncaller and 1 double time is better for some stuff

[open prairie]

yeah

thorncaller st

or boss

same thing

[unreal onyx]

DH talk

[open prairie]

down with ret

let’s be real

[unreal onyx]

true

delete pink dps

heal and tank can stay

[open prairie]

just play vanilla

problem solved

[covert blaze]

prot pala omega fun

[clever path]

buff ret

[unreal onyx]

im not 40+

[open prairie]

to playing ret?

or vanilla

[amber arch]

true

[restive peak]

I'm gonna be forced onto ret for sales now honestly

[clever path]

lets be real

warriors and paladins make love not war

[open prairie]

no

fuck ret

[clever path]

big love

hugs and licks and all

[open prairie]

goofy power ranger class

[viral plaza]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3cRLRQW8QPqArXUMCPq2CC anyone able to gander at this sim and tell me how I can get closer to 250k
I feel like I should be a lot higher for the gear I have

[unreal onyx]

vanilla

[unreal onyx]

weren't you the guy propagandizing paladin for a week straight?

[clever path]

Doesnt sound like me

[unreal onyx]

[clever path]

Look at my pfp man, i cant possibly be doing that

[covert blaze]

not dagoth hyperfixating on something

[clever path]

never

[open prairie]

frozen writ?

[sullen dove]

second shadowflame patch over wrists prolly like 1k more, upgrade your 483s to 489

[open prairie]

am i being pranked

rn

[viral plaza]

no, secondary stats are very powerful this patch

earthen writ and frozen writ are simming well

[sullen dove]

maybe look at swapping around some stats on crafted gears

generally can always just try haste/mast, haste/verse, and mastery/verse

[crude ridge]

Thoughts on a 489 Mirror over a 476 Cataclysmic Signet? It sims slightly higher, but wondering if it is actually better in reality since it's on-use.

[clever path]

double shadowflame and/or crafted neck

sim the neck at least

torc of passed time

[viral plaza]

I've tried the neck and it's a 400 dps increase I think

[sullen dove]

whats other trink, if 2 on use prolly not it would be cringe

[crude ridge]

489 Augury

[sullen dove]

if u currently have 2 passives nothing wrong particularly with getting mirror, slightly less convenient in m+ than might of the ocean, but fine enough in raid i'd think

[unreal onyx]

mirror is good

but imo feels bad to play with the big cd

[sullen dove]

yea i mean ig depends how likely it is u think youll get heroic brand

if u keep running it with a guild or something

would assume heroic brand is better than mirror

but if either its not or youre not likely to get it no real harm in just getting the mirror, unless u still need sockets or something

[lean valley]

So, I am going to craft a 486 weapon, how would I sim it for the stats I should put on it?

[crude ridge]

guild is casual and done raiding unfortunately, guess I could keep pugging it

[restive peak]

Can someone link me the leggo guide pls?

[young swan]

gz

naturally immediately after finishinh fyrakk prog

[restive peak]

On my ret Xan...

Warr didn't get it again lol

[young swan]

lol

well at least u got it on the real m+ character

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sHjJ2qfYv7FkbyVRajVPR7 not ST build

[restive peak]

Right lol

[unreal onyx]

but still clear loser

[sullen dove]

subtle...

[pulsar turtle]

How many people actually have lego now? I cant believe I still havent gotten lmfao

[unreal onyx]

the majority doesn't have it I think

[clever path]

from last week

[pulsar turtle]

blp?

[unreal onyx]

bad luck protection

greater embers

[pulsar turtle]

how do u find that

[clever path]

thas a weakaura

[young swan]

its a weakaura

[pulsar turtle]

can you link?

[lean valley]

So, what's the droprate on it? How much does the embers actually help towards it?

[clever path]

https://wago.io/_smqBY9dR

[young swan]

unknown

[unreal onyx]

no one knows

[young swan]

on both

[clever path]

1957%

[pulsar turtle]

so mines also

on 20

is that good?

or just another week next week no lego

[clever path]

next week for sure

[unreal onyx]

just loot it

[clever path]

im gonna go play lego star wars

good luck on vaults

[lean valley]

Does anyone know the best way to sim which stats I should put on my crafted weapon?

[unreal onyx]

even this guy has it

[unreal onyx]

gear compare

[lean valley]

poor monk statue

[paper ivy]

I had this, this just makes you angry each week if you don’t drop the lego

[upbeat sentinel]

Surely it hasn’t been 20 weeks

[young swan]

pretty sure it counts lessers + greaters

or just lessers

not sure

its week 12

[analog charm]

Just got augury in vault, is it that huge of a trinket?

[young swan]

yes

[upbeat sentinel]

Take it or die

[analog charm]

(This is coming from me, a moron)

[unreal onyx]

take it and sell it

free 80g

[young swan]

it is the best trinket for fury

bar none

[deft lance]

Someone said theres a macro for rampage is this real

[upbeat sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/smite-gif-18969093

[deft lance]

something bout not clipping

[young swan]

it is but its not particularly useful

[deft lance]

gotcha

[unreal onyx]

combine 2 buttons in 1

[cyan turtle]

yo he has my axe

[unreal onyx]

crazy tech

[unreal onyx]

how

I have that one

[young swan]

2 button into 1 for 30s of a 5 min fight

[cyan turtle]

watafak u stole it

[analog charm]

I parsed a literal 0 on mythic Tindril and no amount of new gear will fix my shame

[unreal onyx]

let rogues pickpocket fyrakk and loot the leggo that way

[cyan turtle]

dats just being good

[unreal onyx]

true

0 people are better than you

[analog charm]

Lmao mf everyone’s better than me

[upbeat sentinel]

Were you dead

[analog charm]

No I was just hot ass

[cyan turtle]

so raidleading

[young swan]

thats impressive

[unreal onyx]

there is 0 way you lived the whole fight and got a 0

like actually

[analog charm]

I like to think my Rally helped

[cyan turtle]

did u stand at the side and watch?

can u link this fight

[upbeat sentinel]

Blud’s guild would’ve done it in 100 fewer pulls without him

[analog charm]

Or if I were just on my ret lol

[cyan turtle]

just let ur cat play, it would prase beter

[sage smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/ree-frog-scream-pepe-the-frog-screaming-ree-gif-15688821

no augury

[analog charm]

This is my first tier as war and it’s not been kind to me

[young swan]

okay hes not the absolute worst parse

but its close

[unreal onyx]

99% active?

[young swan]

nah

85%

[cyan turtle]

first time for me was season 1 dragonflight, almost got CE

[young swan]

oh wait

89%

read the wrong thing

[analog charm]

I’m admitting how bad it is, so I’m trying to take it in stride

[unreal onyx]

89% is what

5min/6min fight?

[young swan]

wait

u were playing

pure st talents

[upbeat sentinel]

What was your total dps

[young swan]

why

[analog charm]

Was asked to push boss dam

[unreal onyx]

you lose like literally 2% boss dam

[upbeat sentinel]

BY WHO

[young swan]

yeah u shouldve declined

[unreal onyx]

and gain huge aoe

[analog charm]

I was running AOE mostly

Idk guys I should know how to play it better regardless, it’s so embarrassing

[upbeat sentinel]

What was your end dps

[unreal onyx]

wait

what's your dmg to boss log

[analog charm]

Also trash

I’m like 2 seconds from deleting my war after that

[restive peak]

Fr though, does someone have the google sheet for leggo?

[upbeat sentinel]

What’s your gear

[young swan]

nah sorry

[restive peak]

Xan pls

D:

[young swan]

it didnt exist when i got lego

sorry

[unreal onyx]

what sheet

just do the quests

[upbeat sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/kys-choocvlt-gif-21659242

[dire badge]

🫡

[young swan]

7

[clever belfry]

7

[upbeat sentinel]

6

[clever belfry]

5

[cyan turtle]

2

[upbeat sentinel]

1

[cyan turtle]

is normal raid easy to pug? :hmm

[upbeat sentinel]

Pugging is aids in general

[acoustic furnace]

There's always that one dude who grabs a seed and has no idea what to do with it lol

Or lava puddles in the middle of smoldys boss room

Or running out with Igira spears and Tswift roots

Or dropping Nymue bombs in melee

[cyan turtle]

well have people geared enough where they can mostly brute it?

idk how long the raid has been out

[acoustic furnace]

Depends on how much they play. But most good players are sitting anywhere from 485 to 489.

[upbeat sentinel]

They’re geared enough that they should be able to do it

[cyan turtle]

ehh yea should be doable then to brute it

[upbeat sentinel]

But then you walk into a 475 average normal group and igira spears are being dropped in mainland China

[acoustic furnace]

See my above list of things that pugs always screw up lol

[upbeat sentinel]

And smolderon ate 28 orbs on a pull I watched

Which is funny as fuck

[acoustic furnace]

Well at least your pugs are soaking lmfao

[clever path]

i blame blizzard

common knowledge is - avoid flying stuff, avoid circles

[upbeat sentinel]

Ya the raid lead said he’d kick anyone that didn’t spawn orbs

So we had spread fuckers in the soak

[acoustic furnace]

L take. People should read up on mechanics. Game would be super dull if things weren't a little different from time to time.

[clever path]

tell that to lfr playerbase

lfr is huge

and when they try to go higher

things happen

[past pivot]

Like getting suspended?

[upbeat sentinel]

LFR made raid design a much higher priority for blizzard since everyone experiences them now

[clever path]

yea

[merry jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190763355993022596/1201981186059014245/image.png?ex=65cbcb36&is=65b95636&hm=14f98da6a7db36571ab1752f12a7b80025f5a92a4e2777ba6c90c459cef47223&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190763355993022596/1201981211229290497/image.png?ex=65cbcb3c&is=65b9563c&hm=d16fe002946c9a99aad372001e15225c9b5b946d6d6cea17b6ec418f7bdd02e7&
my guy is blasting on volcross mythic

[acoustic furnace]

LFR is lame asf. I can live literally any mechanic in there no matter how badly it gets botched. There's no pressure and that makes it boring.

[upbeat sentinel]

Surely the lariat is wrong

[young swan]

what the fuck

[merry jetty]

oh yeah?

[young swan]

that dude has the axe mogged

and not equipped

[merry jetty]

prolly other char

[wanton mirage]

lots of room to improve on a good side

[young swan]

o yeah

forgot..

[cyan turtle]

he has to hold himself back

too powerful

[oblique trail]

Xan moment

[merry jetty]

his Ilvl is 487.13

FYI

[young swan]

having other characters is for cowards

[upbeat sentinel]

We should’ve all made 5 max geared warriors for more lege shots

[acoustic furnace]

So is lariat good or not? I see some folks running it and I'm full sockets so I'm curious.

[young swan]

its solid for the mythic plus or any aoe content in general

its just a good all-rounder much like allied bracers

[merry jetty]

his OH and his MH

this guy is a GEM

[acoustic furnace]

So good for everything except for 3 raid bosses then.

[young swan]

ye

[acoustic furnace]

Guess I know what to craft this week

[oblique trail]

Also lil' bro using frostfire belt

[oblique trail]

You are a coward

[young swan]

ty

[oblique trail]

np honey

[young swan]

:3

[red yew]

Real

[clever path]

bros sent me this

this guy here

is on legendary quest right now

legendary acquired

[paper ivy]

He has head enchant

[unreal onyx]

we use the 70 secondary + 33 secondary gems and not the 88 secondary ones bc overall they are more stats, right?

[hardy cargo]

Indeed

[unreal onyx]

make MS gems not unique equipped

[hardy cargo]

That’d be cool for damage but real tedious lol

[unreal onyx]

get it or get got

80% of the people I farmed my emerald frenzies with were sub 2k io

for leggo

[upbeat sentinel]

80% of fyrak killers are sub 2k

Math checks out

[desert cloud]

So from the 16% people that have aotc this season 80% of them are sub 2k

So 3.2% of player base is above 2k

[hardy fog]

Thats a nutty statistic

[desert cloud]

Quick mafs

[clever path]

volcoross tentacles

pretty sure those oneshot even on lfr

[upbeat sentinel]

That’s likely

A lot of people don’t do M+ at all

[desert cloud]

It’s even less it’s 3.2

[clever path]

anything above 20 in m+ is for fun

since there is no point

for fun or competition

[desert cloud]

3.2% of player base are above 2k

[clever path]

and competition = fun imo

[upbeat sentinel]

And even 20s are only worth it once each

After that, 18s

[clever path]

i disagree

early in the season u are struggling

with aspects

u definitely want all 20s

in vault

[pulsar patrol]

hey guys i have a two questions about fury T31 rotation.

1. Is it bloodbath>rampage in rotation
2. Is execute>bloodbath (proc only)

[clever path]

need to upgrade gear + crafts

[sage smelt]

Got a Fyrakk trinket... On my priest

[desert cloud]

Idk if it’s me but this season felt easier than last season yet people are having a worse time this season which is pretty weird

[clever path]

at this point in time sure

[cyan turtle]

reroll

[clever path]

18s are fine

[sage smelt]

Its the blossum F

[clever path]

i only did 18s this week since i think i only did 1 28

[oblique trail]

1. Yes
2. No

Execute is only between BB and Rampage if you got Ashen, or below Rampage if you don't have Ashen

[clever path]

and 1 26

[upbeat sentinel]

Ya more referring to now than beginning of season

[pulsar patrol]

thx 🙂

[upbeat sentinel]

Getting to not spend mythic seals when they were scarce was good

[clever path]

yeah at this point in the season its fine ye

[upbeat sentinel]

But now they’re not

[desert cloud]

Man

Wow’s downfall soon

[hardy fog]

whats 3k?

[desert cloud]

Tf are u talking abt

3k of what

[young swan]

hes asking what % of the playerbase is 3k

shouldve been pretty obvious

[desert cloud]

Not to me

[hardy fog]

That is a certified warrior brain moment right there.

[young swan]

on god

[desert cloud]

Well i’m in here for a reason

[clever path]

pretty sure

[desert cloud]

I ain’t no double winged yellow pussy

[clever path]

raider io has those

[desert cloud]

Does it track how many people play the game

Or how many people have done raids / m+

Cuz some players don’t even touch those

[nimble basin]

How many people with R.io play the game.

[clever path]

idk

i only use it for cutoff

[nimble basin]

Warcraft logs tracks everyone I think.

[clever path]

rio tracks everyone

completions

[desert cloud]

Everyone that’s been logged

[clever path]

idk about other stats

[desert cloud]

Not everyone

[nimble basin]

Oh cool

[clever path]

wlogs is only logs

and it tracks completions iirc

leaderboard completions

[nimble basin]

Yeah but even in pugs there some log goblin lurking.

[desert cloud]

Yea that’s why it won’t be accurate so m+ playerbase is probably even lower than 3%

Which is sad

One of the reasons that most people don’t get inv to grps

[clever path]

a decent percent doesnt even raid beyond lfr

and then they get to vote on shit

[desert cloud]

There was like 3k votes on each spec

Some are probably duplicates

💀

This game is downbad

[clever path]

nah

[desert cloud]

Or people don’t even care

[clever path]

people dont care abotu s4

most arent even gonna play

[desert cloud]

Yea but 3k

Votes

[clever path]

just wait for cata classic/tww

[desert cloud]

In eu

[clever path]

arms in cata tho

[hardy fog]

An extremely low percentage of the population uses the forums.

[clever path]

banging

[twilit pelican]

many people dont care same like me. I saw pool but i didnt care to vote

and there's a lot of casuals that dont even know there was a vote

[desert cloud]

Yea i’m leveling a warrior in wotlk

Can’t wait to be an actual good class again

[desert cloud]

Nah i play with a lot of plebs

They all follow twitter

So they know there was a vote

[clever belfry]

so true king

[desert cloud]

Most casuals follow wowhead twitter to drool over store mounts

must buy mount

[spice jetty]

My bad

[clever belfry]

(use it for 2 days then go back to ol reliable)

[desert cloud]

Nah u good champ

[desert cloud]

Playerbase is so

[shell furnace]

thoughts whats better pick from vault.. Heroic Signet Brand vs Myth Rezan's?

[desert cloud]

I mean u could always get the hero

But the mythic

[shell furnace]

true

[wispy thistle]

sim

[desert cloud]

That’s a once in a while thing

[desert cloud]

Cata will sim better

But he can always farm it

I haven’t seen a single mythic rezan’s since start of s3

[shell furnace]

cata takes more effort to use... especially m+

[desert cloud]

Yea if u pugging using cata is a dps loss

Mythic is ur ol reliable dps in keys especially if u don’t have fyrrak’s and might

[shell furnace]

i currently have aug and rageheart

[desert cloud]

I might say some sus shit but is rezan’s better than might in ST ?

[clever path]

signet is better in raid

if u raid

on long fights

on heroic its useless

unless its fyrakk

[edgy widget]

Yes

[clever path]

and maybe tindral

[desert cloud]

Great

[rich loom]

So I forgot, can you still use old legacy gear from cata and before in timewalking to their old full effects?

[shell furnace]

how long about does it take to get to full stacks?

[prisma sleet]

ashes of the emebersoul or might of the ocean from GV?

[desert cloud]

Those % are not of who plays the game

[unreal onyx]

they are from who does m+

[desert cloud]

But of people who do m+ with raider io

So for all we know it could be 20% of 3%

[unreal onyx]

score this season feels pretty inflated

3k is the new 2.5k

[desert cloud]

I’d just take mythic rezan than hero cata

[clever belfry]

never never never compare 2 seasons scores

such a fools errand

[desert cloud]

Cuz u can’t farm a mythic+ trinket on mythic quality

[shell furnace]

yea

andd most ppl in my guild already got cata

[desert cloud]

Yea

They can just trade u

Ez trink

[shell furnace]

now if only i could get a 489 weapon ffs

[sullen dove]

I mean if it’s the same number of dungeons between 2 seasons no reason you can’t compare their scores

obv one season or the other you’ll be stronger

and points will be higher

[unreal onyx]

why

8 dungeons vs 8 dungeons

ofc diff meta

but shouldn't they be somewhat comparable?

[rich loom]

what trinkets would you guys go for?

[desert cloud]

Accelerating is probably better than the heavy useless trinket from brh

[rich loom]

that brh trinket feels good in brh though

from brh*

but the stats are eh

[desert cloud]

Sim for ST

[rich loom]

especially w/ the haste from the other

[desert cloud]

And see what’s better

[rich loom]

I just feel like my haste is already way over the top

so the 2 trinkets that provide str as a stat you'd recommend? I'll sim it after, just a long day before getting ready for raid

I do appreciate the response however

[odd star]

wont you drop your stacks while flying? seems bad for tindral

[wet notch]

👏 🔥 :woo: ember gang :woo: 🔥 👏

[clever path]

no

[shell furnace]

shouldnt decay.. cause still in combat

[deft lance]

is today a crafted item week?

[sullen dove]

who’s still counting those

we at like 7 sparks or something

[desert cloud]

I crafted my first item after like 6 weeks

[past pivot]

You’re talking ST? None of those for m+ tbh

[desert cloud]

Didn’t even bother to spend flightsotnea on them

[odd star]

good to know, just got my signet

[rich loom]

st/m+, don't really have other options atm

just came back a weekish ago

[odd star]

just keep getting ilvl, too soon to care about endgame details imo

[rich loom]

yeah ig 465 still feels low, the trinkets are just keeping me down hard i feel like

[past pivot]

Rezan and Spiked for ST. Go run ToT for Might and Crab and use those for MT. Can also use either for ST with Rezan.

[desert cloud]

Cata / rage for ST

[rigid stirrup]

people starting to unironically gatekeep non lego people for keys is

[desert cloud]

And might/rage in m+

I don’t bother min maxing

[desert cloud]

If u rlly wanna get ur dps going start farming AD and ToTT

[pulsar prawn]

i heared about the Loboz build is giga.. can confirm atleast .. if you invite Loboz to your key.. there is a 100% chance to loot Might of the Ocean (30 trys) also he kills the pack before tank is finished with pulling together

[desert cloud]

Then the other trinkets u get are from raid

[rich loom]

well i just gotta keep farming amir, and tott ig

[desert cloud]

If u have rezan hero + might hero u’re good on trinkets until u get the raid ones

[past pivot]

Tot till your eyes bleed. Get Might and Crab and you’re good for M+ and solid for St and can work on others. And tot has other upgrades as well

[rich loom]

have a 463 rezan and 450 sandglass or a spiked counterweight

[pulsar prawn]

sandglass is a decent beginner statstick ye

[rich loom]

didn't know the tot trinkets were that good tbh

[nimble kraken]

For the lego; if you kill it on hero, you get the odds of Lfr, norm and hero all at once. But if you kill it on lfr and get the ember, then normal and get the ember, then hero are your total odds better?

Or is it only one ember per week

[desert cloud]

No

It’s a higher chance on hero mathematically

If u wanna do it on all diff it’s a lower chance but 3 times

[slate geyser]

yea just hero is the mathematicly correct way

[desert cloud]

Having a 3% chance is higher than having 1% chance 3 times

[nimble kraken]

but if you happened to get embers on each of the smaller pulls?

to boost the last 1% a little bit

[amber arch]

Can I tank normal Fyrrak and still get to roll for augery or legendary? or is it considered offspec even if im looting arms?

[desert cloud]

It’s still lower than 3%

[nimble kraken]

kk ❤️ ty

[desert cloud]

Do dps loot spec

Change ur loot spec to fury and u should be able to roll for 1H wpn and augery and everything else

[sinful canopy]

if you run heroic fyrakk first, does it take away the chances for leggo on Normal and LFR?

[past pivot]

Not really. Haste. Yuck

[past pivot]

It gives you the chances for all 3

[sinful canopy]

ahhh so would running LFR and normal after be pointless? or is there still a chance

[desert cloud]

It combines the chances into 1

[desert cloud]

Pointless

[past pivot]

Gives you chance for augury but not leggo

[desert cloud]

Imagine not having 489 augery lol

[odd star]

its a sim angle

[sinful canopy]

ahhh, kk, saves me some time, Leggo and upgraded signet like the only upgrades i need lol\

[past pivot]

What? lol what sim angle?

[slate geyser]

doing all 3 difficulties since week 1 and haven't had the chance to even roll for one yet (:

[desert cloud]

You’ve been rolling on low % since week 1

It’s more effective to only do the highest diff u can

[slate geyser]

augury my guy

[desert cloud]

Ah

I bought mine for 100k

[past pivot]

I have leggo, 483 Augury, full sockets and a 483 Brand. I don’t need to be too greedy. And I paid 0 for all of it. Except leggo mats.

[sinful canopy]

ill prolly get the leggo when new xpac comes

[desert cloud]

Same

Nah wait

Wait

Will we have to refarm the lego in the fated season or some shit ?

[past pivot]

We don’t know

[desert cloud]

That’ll be cringe

From blizzard

[past pivot]

It might be an upgrade token. Or or it might be a dinar system.

They’ve done it both ways

[desert cloud]

If they make another lego with higher ilvl for a dinar

I’m gonna shove it in one of the employees no offense

[past pivot]

That’s actually the more likely play than the upgrade token.

[desert cloud]

S4 is like what 3 weeks away from now ?

[wild mural]

No lol

[past pivot]

Like 7 weeks

[wild mural]

more like 3 months

[past pivot]

End of March iirc

[desert cloud]

No way

[wild mural]

this seasons only been out like 3 months

[past pivot]

Not even halfway thru

[torn oak]

Is there an optimum time to use the leggo ability during rot? sorry if this is already answered

[odd star]

if you have low haste on rest of your gear the haste from hourglass is better, not rocket science

[past pivot]

Maybe. Or if you have low haste, sims may recommend more of what you do have. Say vers or crit. That’s how the sims work Mr Rocket Scientist. Or should I say Dr Rocket Scientist?

[odd star]

Dr is fine

[sullen dove]

find it unlikely if you have 10% haste sim will just say “get everything else cuz you have more of it”

def not how that should work common sensically

[past pivot]

What if it’s 20% haste?

[sullen dove]

what about 500% haste

[odd star]

too little of any 2ndary stat does tend to be dps loss which is why we sim instead of using arbitrary benchmarks

so we dont rely on feelcraft and etc

[chilly fractal]

S4 gonna be like May

April or May

[past pivot]

Sims don’t unusually try to balance stats out evenly. That’s all I’m saying. Not sure what @sullen dove is going on about. But generally haste isn’t our best stat this season and that trinket isn’t very good for us this season. Use it for Arms spec. Gore seemed to be the better of the 2, especially since it was higher ilvl.

[sullen dove]

[somber palm]

Can anyone help me understand why I'm a dirty green parser?https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NDmLAbBh7G8k4Z1f#fight=3&type=damage-done&source=25

[balmy shore]

MY STUPID LITTLE RET ALT GOT IT BEFORE MY MAIN

[compact knot]

another day another ember for me

[oblique trail]

gg

guess you're a ret main now

[rich loom]

gz gz

[arctic copper]

😂

[past pivot]

You and @restive peak are trending pink

[balmy shore]

im already playing ret for my group's keys...

[past pivot]

Ember group goes pink

[sullen dove]

the game just knows it doesn’t wanna give it to good warriors to keep us feeling like we need to play week by week, keeping this bad brown class afloat

ember gang leader jackie what is your directive 🧎‍♂️

[clever path]

Buff ret

[dire badge]

who’s we

[sullen dove]

no.

[dire badge]

[sullen dove]

[radiant plank]

Push week just rolled around perfect timing

[calm swallow]

Another week, another full clear. Still no forking axe T_T

[slate geyser]

how do u check this ?

[unreal onyx]

sign

[toxic pivot]

is there a channel/discord for SOD warrior?

[arctic copper]

WA for lesser, Greater, i just keep track of manually

[shell furnace]

lol just did a normal Fyrakk that was 25 ppl.. all were pallys / warriors.. and the que was only brown and pink

[calm swallow]

Whats this from?

[dire badge]

:chat:

[sullen dove]

#vanilla-discussion maybe but idk if that’s just hardcore or if some of em play sod too

[shell furnace]

oh and a couple dks

[calm swallow]

Oh didn't see the answer, gotcha

[balmy shore]

NOT A SIGN

[balmy shore]

ikr

[shell furnace]

...no legendaries

[arctic copper]

WA that keeps track of lesser BLP tokens, i input the greater ones manually since i do it every week.

[past pivot]

Be like @clever path and get suspended so you needn’t loot the leggo on your skunk ret/dk alt. Show blizz you’re in it for the long run. When you get back on. That is.

[unreal onyx]

🙏

you're one of the loyal ones

[unreal onyx]

why did he get suspended

[sullen dove]

[unreal onyx]

big prog

[clever path]

[final eagle]

axeless group still

[past pivot]

I wonder if @ember apex plays ret or DK. I wanna see his excel spreadsheet for tracking boss kills on alts compared to looting embers. Like seriously interested in how he’d obsessively track it

[clever path]

Because I’m stupid

[sullen dove]

bro slinging out pings like oprah

[unreal onyx]

@sullen dove

[sullen dove]

[clever path]

I love when someone pings me

Makes me feel important

And loved

[ember apex]

i played frostDK a little bit in s2 just to try it

[storm rune]

Frost DKs in S2 were what made me quit tanking

[acoustic furnace]

@clever path

[past pivot]

You need an alt leggo. I’m rooting for you. As much as I’ve good-naturedly busted your balls, I’m on your side this time.

[ember apex]

i dont need an alt leggo lmao

[clever path]

[ember apex]

my alt is a hDH and fireMage

[clever path]

A purple

[storm rune]

alt leggo actually feels worse tbh

[unreal onyx]

alt leggo? more like new main

[young swan]

oh no

[balmy shore]

im the warrior buff on m fyrakk

unfortunate

[clever path]

That’s what I hoped for on my paladin, but alas

[balmy shore]

it's over

[storm rune]

Oh your 487 warrior has gone 2 months without it dropping? lol lets give it to your 440 hpal alt lol

[young swan]

yeah go next (xpac)

[unreal onyx]

we're kinda making it through fyrakk p1 now

[balmy shore]

💨

[unreal onyx]

p1 isn't really hard at all imo

[ember apex]

my guild still stuck on tindralicious

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902623813068521473.webp?size=48&name=PepeHands&quality=lossless

[dusty notch]

so should i be tracking crit chance with WA to play with tier?

[unreal onyx]

no

you are either regular crit chance or 100%

[ember apex]

no that's some season 2 nonsense

we dont do that anymore, we're embarrased by our past behavior

also bring back s2

[dusty notch]

oh

sorry yeah it says t30

shouldnt have clicked that

[unreal onyx]

no

[storm rune]

God S2 was such degen gameplay, sure am glad that's over and we never have to go back to it again

[unreal onyx]

just wait for S4

[storm rune]

[unreal onyx]

still praying for S3 to win and the bots to be sorted out

[storm rune]

I'mma play S4 to get the portals I missed, but warrior is dead after that

[light nova]

Will the dungeons of sesson 4 be the season 1 ones again?

[ember apex]

s3 doesnt cleave and ST dps doesnt matter in fated

idk what ur arguing for exactly

you're gonna have bis items in like 2-3 weeks

[unreal onyx]

im arguing for the tierset that I prefer to play

that was the whole point of the poll too btw

[young swan]

best guess is just all of the DF dungeons

nothings been announced tho

[past pivot]

The poll was scuffed since the play style in s4 will be quite different. Fated will be lol ST. Just stay in M+ build for everything and burn baby baby.
Not like parsing will be a thing.

[ember apex]

fated affixes made basically every boss better

p1 sylvanas w/ the orbs

[unreal onyx]

I don't push m+ and prefer to raid

that is my reasoning behind preferring S3

[ember apex]

i like doing casual 20s

[unreal onyx]

AM is just dogwater to play with imo

[ember apex]

i love AM

its my favorite

rewards high uptime

[unreal onyx]

and punishes forced downtime

good design

[past pivot]

I seriously doubt there will be a fated affix that turns bosses into patchwerk fights. Quite the opposite I’m reasoning. So while I prefer s3 in a normal season, I opted for s2 and its MT playstyle for the funny fated season.

[unreal onyx]

we don't even know how fated is designed

so it could be anything tbf

[past pivot]

We have history to give us some idea

[ember apex]

it could be anything yeah

[unreal onyx]

we have had 1 fated season

[past pivot]

That’s something to work off

[unreal onyx]

idk what blizz thought how players liked it

[past pivot]

Blizz is more likely to repeat what worked, in their eyes, than try something new.

[unreal onyx]

if people complained, then they will rework the system ig

[past pivot]

They’ve been on record saying feedback for fated was great

[unreal onyx]

imo SL fated was pretty mid

[past pivot]

And they want to repeat it

[unreal onyx]

destroyed any way of comparing your actual gameplay and dps to others

[past pivot]

They said that at expansion launch when fated was announced

[unreal onyx]

you either got lucky with motes and padded as hard as you could on a ST boss

or got cucked

[ember apex]

the motes are a literal DPS buff

its not pad

[unreal onyx]

for logs it is

[past pivot]

It’s the modern version of season of discovery

[ember apex]

fuck logs

get the dps buff

kill motes

[unreal onyx]

aintnoway you will not look at logs

and if motes are back, there is basically nothing to look at to improve yourself

[ember apex]

my guild is on tindral rn, and my ST dps is getting scrutinized

[past pivot]

Logs and parses. lol no one cares at the end of season. People just want to kill shit snd see big big numbers

[unreal onyx]

other than "do the most aoe you can"

[ember apex]

so i look at logs

but how to improve my ST dps

infact

i do that every raid tier

fated is the exception

its a vacation

so let me enjoy my vacation tyvm

[fading sky]

Lol so

[unreal onyx]

tbh, I don't personally think many people don't tryhard in S4

[fading sky]

Fated = aug??

[clever path]

i hope not

dungeons sucks

suck*

[unreal onyx]

dungeons are good

[fading sky]

Fated succes.med aug

[unreal onyx]

suck for m+

[ember apex]

algethar academy was a standout dungeon imo

[clever path]

algethar was giga cringe early

[past pivot]

April or May

[clever path]

ahaha funny aoe then that bird boss oneshots the tank

[fading sky]

Kek

[clever path]

then the adds on tree boss scale with fort

[fading sky]

Augmentation

[clever path]

and the boss is harder on fort

[ember apex]

thats a design prob

[clever path]

av without skip is cancer but with skip its fine

[fading sky]

Augmentation did same for logs as fated🤣

[ember apex]

still a good dungeon imo

[clever path]

yeah its a good dungeon but not a good m+ dung

[fading sky]

Ruby was good

[clever path]

surely

[fading sky]

M+

[ember apex]

AV skip has to be the most non-ironic - ironic - skip in the history of wow dungeons

[fading sky]

Once tuned

[clever path]

rlp gauntlet still gives me nightmares to this day

[unreal onyx]

looking at the past of my rio stats

[dapper goblet]

부두교

[ember apex]

RLP gauntlet? the first room?

[ember apex]

that's brutal

[unreal onyx]

DF dungeons were consistently the worst ones I had

[clever path]

they are just not good m+ dungeons

thats it

bullshit scaling

bullshit mechanics

bullshit timer

[brittle veldt]

do we make any changes to the standard M+ build for Tyrannical weeks?

[unreal onyx]

no

[clever path]

no

u play dancing blades and bc always

[brittle veldt]

bc?

[clever path]

Are you ok?

[dapper goblet]

부두교

[clever path]

Voodoo

Next week for sure

[ember apex]

ok my little sausages im loggin off, peace

[unreal onyx]

gn sir

[clever path]

Goodnight bossman

[clever path]

bloodcraze

[brittle veldt]

ah, oki
thank you

[fading sky]

my man so sorry 😭

[silent burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-crying-sad-pouroneout-gif-4986360

[tidal kindle]

[dapper goblet]

🔨

[frosty patrol]

how is pips for m+? rn I use might and hourglass/signet based on the dungeon

all hero track 483

[junior gale]

right there with you

[sour frigate]

[modest condor]

voodoo

[half pulsar]

Is garms here

looking for a fury warrior coach

[young swan]

@tidal kindle

all urs champ

[modest condor]

sorry who?

[olive wraith]

Did you mean gury

[tidal kindle]

Who?

That garms guy hasn't been around all tier bro

https://tenor.com/banWS.gif

[red berry]

What’s a coach

[half pulsar]

If I book with you for 7pm will you be here by 7:30?

[tidal kindle]

Ask my supervisor @tropic veldt

Oh wait he's muted

[half pulsar]

Im having issues with my rotation

my keys keep sticking to my forhead when Im smashing my head against the keyboard

what has worked for you to fix this?

[tidal kindle]

Smaller forehead

[dusty notch]

I play with controller

[tidal kindle]

Or bigger keys

[slim coral]

welped almost timed a 29 eb

mage died twice on last boss

[modest condor]

BuT mAgEs ArE sO tAnKy

[slim coral]

[slim coral]

they used 0 defensives

[wild mural]

real

[slim coral]

on intermisssion

...

[modest condor]

fury doesnt die

[slim coral]

so true

I felt like a god

[half pulsar]

I was gonna buy a pelaton and sync rampage with cycling the pedals

would that work?

maybe free up some keys for my rotation

[slim coral]

tbf mages are tankier than fury though

from what I hear all the top players say

I've never played mage like that though so I wouldnt actually know

[brittle veldt]

what talent do we drop to pick up Bloodcraze in M+?

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/7-fire-gif-7694122736699725811

[clever belfry]

7️⃣

🕖

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[warm crag]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[compact siren]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[burnt stone]

@dapper goblet “Voodoo” what is this?

[dapper goblet]

부두교

[clever belfry]

부두교

[gleaming siren]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[burnt stone]

[clever belfry]

youre a king 👑

[burnt stone]

It's a title that's too burdensome for me.

[dapper goblet]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[burnt stone]

I forgot what I was going to say because of your reaction.

[sullen dove]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[nimble kraken]

Wafting devotion or sophic devotion?

[wild mica]

sim

[summer quail]

time for this fker

[nimble kraken]

👍

[worn ibex]

where does the axe best fit into the rotation?

[slim coral]

it doesnt

[gleaming siren]

It's okay you can say it when you remember

[slim coral]

thats the thing

[gleaming siren]

No pressure

[worn ibex]

ok because when i use it my dps tanks bad lol

[hearty surge]

That should not happen

[nimble kraken]

I just open with it, to put it on cd while the mobs aren't doing anything yet. then rotate in

it's better than standard rotation outside of buff uptime

2 minutes after first use, you're already 30 seconds past ur 1.5min cds again; so good chance you've fallen out of recklessness and can throw it again

[worn ibex]

interesting ill try opening with it

[clever belfry]

haii toph

[burnt stone]

I remember what you were trying to say
This is a story about Vulkoros.
These days, everyone's dps has gotten stronger, so this guy dies in about 3 minutes 10 to 20 seconds.
In this case, rather than following APL, I think it would be better to use the avatar sooner at the start of the battle so that you can easily use the CD in 3 minutes.

For example, according to APL, you use Odin and use the real avatar just before the avatar buff obtained when casting Odin goes off (about 3 to 4 seconds after casting Odin), but if the kill time is about 3 minutes 10 to 20 seconds, Odin-Spear- Avatar
I think it would be better to use the avatar a little faster this way

[covert blaze]

L

[odd star]

slaughtering strikes

[compact siren]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧑‍🍳

[burnt stone]

🧑‍🍳👨‍🍳

[clever belfry]

🧑‍🍳👨‍🍳

[paper ivy]

ravager?

[edgy widget]

please stop spamming random shit

goes for the rest of yall too

[burnt stone]

I agree, stop!

[raw knoll]

Do the Allied bracers sim assuming max stacks the entire segment? Asking because they've been simming like shit for me the whole season.

[prisma sleet]

is pips + moto a good combo for m+?

or ember + moto

[dapper goblet]

xd

[burnt stone]

I'm curious about how the Mythic difficulty council is conducted on your server.
On the Korean server, most players roll dice (1-20, excluding healers) to select 3 people, who then continue to transform into ducks until the council battle ends. Then, the three of us clear the floor and transfer to each other.
Do other places do this too?

[clever belfry]

think most people just assign 2 people to do it

[burnt stone]

Last week I won these 3 ducks and made arms items for the council and I was so sad.

[dapper goblet]

tell them you are cowfarmers and dont need to duck

[summer quail]

we just force the hunters to do it

[lunar cape]

Force augs to do it

[burnt stone]

At first, we had hunters and augs in charge, but now that they say they don't want to do it, we have to roll the dice.

[dapper goblet]

affi lock with absolute corruption

[coarse nest]

We had mage and aug do it for our kill

[burnt stone]

I also think it's good when Augs do it.

[covert blaze]

5Head

[summer quail]

augs are not people, no opinions

[burnt stone]

I agree

[clever belfry]

it is the best option yep

[left gale]

Hey quick question is it just me or is the balance Druid really broken

[clever belfry]

Mickey mouse fight tho, who cares

[clever belfry]

xd

[left gale]

Am I just tripping

[clever belfry]

It's underwhelming at best in raid
Its p good in keys, but needs some superior babysit

[left gale]

Cause I was watching a buddy play pvp and took this photo

[clever belfry]

geared guy farms dogs in bg

wow!!!

[left gale]

1b

Like I’ve never seen shit like that before

[warm crag]

is this a display issue

he also died 60 times and outhealed everyone

[left gale]

Mhmm

[clever belfry]

it's this the wod battleground

[warm crag]

could be

[clever belfry]

it is

[left gale]

Wod?

[dapper goblet]

ashran isnt really the best bg to look at

giga item that makes you do like 500% more dam

[clever belfry]

Yeah ashrans the name

[warm crag]

how the fuck does he die 59 times tho

[wintry tulip]

assram

[left gale]

Ah ok cause I was just looking at it like is it even possible 💀

[clever belfry]

That bg can take a while spongers

[warm crag]

if i die 10 times in a bg i hearthstone out

[clever belfry]

🥖

[clever belfry]

why are u doing a bg

[warm crag]

exactly

[clever belfry]

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-pissi-twitch-7tv-gif-7223094372649290081

[clever belfry]

what da meow doing

[warm crag]

favourite piece of keane communication

[left gale]

I thought if anyone knew it would be you guys

[clever belfry]

yeah cause he sure doesn't talk

sadly...

[warm crag]

i was in vc once when he talked

[clever belfry]

holy moly

[mild kraken]

If my guild doesn’t kill smolderon after the 3rd week of progging should I leave the guild?

[clever belfry]

depends

do u enjoy raiding there
if no, leave

Do give them atleast a week heads up though

[dapper goblet]

are you one of the reasons its taking 3 weeks of prog..

[mild kraken]

Nope

[covert blaze]

think about how much you like the guild

does wiping outweigh the fun you have there

if it does, i would say leave

[mild kraken]

All I wanna do is kill things

[covert blaze]

go somewhere better then

[dire vigil]

nice.

[mild kraken]

Missed CE last two tiers, really don’t feel like missing it anymore

[dire vigil]

something missing, can't quite put my finger on what it is though..

[rocky hemlock]

what am i doing wrong as fury that im not getting as many odyns fury cast as other people ?

[covert blaze]

not casting bb/bt enough probably

[clever belfry]

489 gloves

[warm crag]

496 augury aswell

[clever belfry]

troo

[covert blaze]

seems fine to me

[rocky hemlock]

so i should be spaming BB/BT nomatter what

[covert blaze]

in practice you usually do BT/BB>gcd>BT/BB

[sullen dove]

not "no matter what" but more often than not

the only time i think youd explicitly not cast bt when you can is if youre like, completely capped on rage

but yea usually right after you rampage you hit bb, then you hit some other button, then bt, and flip flop between bt and other buttons

[dire vigil]

that's it! Silly me

[coral galleon]

we still running howling/hissing runes?

[summer quail]

we are running what sims the highest

[balmy shore]

EMBER GANG REPORT

[covert blaze]

<- eating embers

[covert blaze]

hissing usually the play, you can sim it though

[rocky hemlock]

how do usim fyrakk meaning aoe or dungeon slice or patchwork?

[young swan]

you cant

[modest condor]

so you're a ret main now?

[balmy shore]

[balmy shore]

im still bshout in raid it's ok

[sinful spoke]

Could it be

[dapper goblet]

부두교

[sinful spoke]

One of these?

[dire vigil]

Eye twitches

[sinful spoke]

Cant wait to get my third today after raid night on my paladin

🙏

[meager void]

[balmy shore]

EMBER GANG

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[balmy shore]

where voodoo

[sullen dove]

📿

[dapper goblet]

that is voodoo

[balmy shore]

😔

[sullen dove]

s2 wanter voodoo

blue man main voodoo

[clever path]

부두교

[dapper goblet]

game wants me to play whopper

[sullen dove]

부두교

[balmy shore]

THREE????

[sullen dove]

whopper whopper whopper whooper junior double triple whopper

[agile tiger]

Lmao thats rough though

[balmy shore]

which class is whopper im trying to guess

[sullen dove]

blue man

[dapper goblet]

wonka blue man

[balmy shore]

oh but blue man fun

(not as fun as warrior)

[young swan]

whopper is teal

[dapper goblet]

that

isnt

teal

[young swan]

or whatever that colour is

[dapper goblet]

for the 3rd time

[sullen dove]

mage is teal

[balmy shore]

oh... i was thinking... it was a bk whopper...

[sullen dove]

what is this

[dapper goblet]

canada education

[balmy shore]

like 😭

[dapper goblet]

whopper is monk

[sullen dove]

oh wtf

[dapper goblet]

FEMALE TAUREN

[young swan]

it is literally teal

[dapper goblet]

monk