fury

[molten relic]

Idk I did 30+ thrones and saw one. Got it traded to me

Doesn’t exist can confirm

Looted leggo before might of the ocean

[clever path]

Moto even has the same amount of letters as myth

It’s a myth , a tale , a lie

[silver mantle]

This might of the ocean?

socket vault btw

[edgy widget]

na the other one

[fallow lotus]

nah nah THE might of the the ocean

not that one

[cyan turtle]

i can feel the leggo calling for me next reset

[sullen dove]

same

[unreal onyx]

philWHO

[sullen dove]

[modest condor]

absolutely demolished holy shit

[cyan turtle]

reroll inc

he is going DH now

[eternal sundial]

[unreal onyx]

l2pad

[eternal sundial]

i also held ava for smallies on last boss which was kinda ass

since i didnt have ava for next pack

what happened here

[unreal onyx]

my CDs were giga scuffed

[sullen dove]

washed washed washed washed

[unreal onyx]

I never played AD in that route tbh

now show all other bosses

[eternal sundial]

like 300k who cares 🛏️

[unreal onyx]

[eternal sundial]

any lariat enjoyers

[unreal onyx]

did you play lariat

[eternal sundial]

ye

[silver dawn]

I feel bad about the leggo. We’ve only gotten two in my entire guild…… and they’re both me.

[eternal sundial]

defo my fury lariat

[unreal onyx]

you also played pips

[eternal sundial]

and not shoehorned arms item

surely good fury item

[unreal onyx]

fake fury

arms main

[eternal sundial]

if raid let me

[sudden tusk]

oh hey i have one of those with avoidence too

[cyan turtle]

what ilvl do people want for normal?

[unreal onyx]

what ilvl does it drop

[cyan turtle]

normal? no clue haha

[unreal onyx]

I guess you can do nm with 450

higher ilvl is obv preferred

[slim coral]

I did normal at 424

Just formed my own group and titled in 9/9M RL

People joined so quick

[cyan turtle]

10/10 strat

[unreal onyx]

did you do it or did you get carried

[clever path]

why does it matter

same outcome

[unreal onyx]

bc it was asked at what ilvl you can do nm

not at which ilvl you can get carried, bc that doesn't matter

[clever path]

450 prob

424 is way too low to join a pug

[slim coral]

Well I never died so

I technically did it

But damage wise I got carried because you can only do so much damage at 424

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[open prairie]

unless aug

then you can pretend you’re useful

[slim coral]

True lol

[eternal sundial]

@wild mural come heal 18 key

[slim coral]

Warrior healing spec pog

[eternal sundial]

@unreal onyx come heal 18 key

[unreal onyx]

fury heal?

I have literally 1 char

and you already played with it

[eternal sundial]

loser

[unreal onyx]

[clever path]

anyone have the race comparison string?

[slim coral]

Human is BiS

That’s all you need to know

[clever path]

dwarf on use is just so strong

and i wanna see if human dps is worth losing dwarf

[meager gyro]

Are the Lego updates helping us any? Or just dk

[left perch]

#fury message

[dapper goblet]

@warm crag simp

[warm crag]

gubi fortnite

[desert cloud]

I mean human is more dmmg

But dwarf is more tanky

And nelf is this season’s trend cuz u can cancel a gazillion abilities

[covert blaze]

gapplebees

[covert blaze]

3000 pull tindral RL

[warm crag]

why are you watching

[dapper goblet]

was recommended channel

peep for 1 sec

[warm crag]

another xeos lie

[dapper goblet]

i only tell the truth

[sour frigate]

dwarf master race

[wild mural]

I sleep

[eternal sundial]

we timed it with a 450 Priester

[slim coral]

*700

[fiery harbor]

axe channel gonna be affected by haste next reset. if only id have it

[wild mural]

[clever path]

its already affected

[fiery harbor]

oh ok

[wild mural]

Syi useless confirmed

[clever path]

Not as useless as Aug

[storm rune]

I've been thinking about dropping Crushing Force for P&G+Bitter Immunity

[meager gyro]

That’s a pretty shit deal . Ok back to SMF

[clever path]

I would say back to pink warrior

[open prairie]

no one likes aug

[clever path]

But I am suspended till 3rd feb

[eternal sundial]

3 min 20% heal is so dogshit

[open prairie]

nerf ret tbh

[eternal sundial]

just sayin

[clever path]

For telling people to play on Alterrac Valleg and kill Drek tar or Kek

[open prairie]

out of control spec

[storm rune]

An extra oh shit button in exchange for like less than .5% DPS tho

but yeah holy shit I didn't realize it's on a 3min cd

[open prairie]

i’d barely consider a 20% heal an oh shit button

[meager gyro]

I got a warning for language last week. I named all my keys “+20 you fuck” “+22 shit bozo only” “+20 dps cucks”

[violet trail]

Well it is against the social contract or whatever

[open prairie]

i remember when parents actually parented

not gave their kids a tablet and called it a day

[meager gyro]

At least now you have to use a DL to watch porn

[sullen basin]

Is it supposed to feel like a miracle when you do a key and the DH tank doesn't get obliterated by every boss despite being massively under geared wearing previous season gear

[open prairie]

what key level

anything 20 and below its a tank issue

[sullen basin]

440 DH in a 19, usually seeing 470-480 get obliterated in 18-20s

[open prairie]

bad tank

[sullen basin]

So most DH tanks are just dog shit got it

[storm rune]

Most tanks, yes

[open prairie]

most m+ players are yes

[sullen basin]

I don't invite them any more same with hunters because they seem to not press buttons and also not have any vers, and play like a DPS

[open prairie]

well

[storm rune]

That's why we play fury, pop ER and tank the boss/pack until the tank gets back lmao

[open prairie]

optimal vengeance tanking does play like a dps

[clever path]

veng just lives everything how is he dying

[sullen basin]

This guy wasn't which is why I'm asking about other higher geared ones dying

[open prairie]

if your veng tank isnt pulling half the instance

[sullen basin]

So they're just bears

[open prairie]

then asking why the rest of the group is dying

hes playing wrong

[sullen basin]

Not a good idea in first room BRH way too many interrupts

Soul blast! You're dead

[open prairie]

vengeance can handle most stops

by themselves initially

[storm rune]

but will they?

[open prairie]

good ones do

good veng dhs arent doing 18-20s though

best tanks are always dps mains

anyone who flexes being a tank main is a red flag

[clever path]

dps rerolls are always the best tanks

[open prairie]

in s2 i saw a prot warrior with 37% shield block uptime

[storm rune]

dude matched his uptime with his block chance

skills

[open prairie]

bad tanks are often not pressing something every gcd

[sullen basin]

Does that mean I can be a tank

[open prairie]

thats why their mitigation sucks

and their damage/threat

[covert blaze]

tomato, tomato

[slim coral]

I hate tomatos

[covert blaze]

tomatos are bussin frfr

i eat them like apples

[storm rune]

thats unhinged

[young swan]

ur getting timed out for this

come back in 5 min

[pastel agate]

Check this out!

These are my stat weights.

I test gems and a new helm and now sim wants me to use crit gems? How does that add up. Am I missng something? Is it bugged?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pJoUi8z6WR8uwTqvJBTLXj

Shouldn't the gem choices be Mast/vers?

[young swan]

you lost crit from the old helmet, crit is a good stat in aoe

[open prairie]

why only one embellish

[pastel agate]

Need to add a seconmd omne

will add shadow flame

instead of wrist

[warm crag]

is ramping on cd good in aoe

[gilded pawn]

no

[warm crag]

why not

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1125903327809507493/1199020635960131704/image.png?ex=65ca407c&is=65b7cb7c&hm=e5a5b0bdfeb04ffd6637166570e5d1c4d3e4c4591b940df0923ae5ee2b60324f&

i will do this

[gilded pawn]

ramp is only good on st

you dont press it in aoe

[amber arch]

bro what 431k

[warm crag]

im deleting the ya zhai pasta if you continue this

[dreamy notch]

Thats a take

[hardy shuttle]

It's not that hard in an EB with an Aug, some PIs, and no1 to compete with

[warm crag]

🎣

[dreamy notch]

Sadge

[past pivot]

One. Stat weights are lol.
Two. You’re doing dungeon slice which has an ST component to it so it won’t sim the same as you would for pure burst.
Three. Just sim your normal top gear and use those gem recommendations

[forest owl]

being told to go full st as fury on m tindral

[young swan]

tell them to bench you and bring another rogue then

[storm rune]

Tell them OK and go MT anyways

[young swan]

better ST + can solo a root set

[ebon venture]

if i have all mythic set tier pieces which one would be the one reasonable to replace for better stats? the helm?

[forest owl]

3rd top root dmg outside 2 warlocks nuking them and they expect a class to go full st thats also one of the shittest st specs im so confused

[covert blaze]

[covert blaze]

1984

[pastel agate]

Would you reccomend not doing that? Cause I mainly do Mythic+

As in do patchwork instead

[young swan]

u can sim dslice

u just need to understand that its gonna weight certain things higher than others because there are aoe components and the aoe doesnt last very long

e.g crit being a better stat, on-use trinkets having higher value

[past pivot]

Our dps profile is very similar for mt and st. You can do a variety of MT sims, DS and varying mobs and lengths and then compare.
Or you can just use your best ST top gear and some critical thinking. Swap trinkets out. Or trinket if you have Augury. Maybe equip lariat if you have enough sockets, etc. but there’s not much you really need to min-max

[lilac hatch]

hey guys in order to get the legoo is worth running lfr normal and hero, or just with clearing hero i'm good?

[young swan]

just heroic is fine

[past pivot]

Same answer as always. Highest difficulty

[lilac hatch]

kk

[ebon venture]

Which tier piece is the one we usually don’t take

[young swan]

its like a 0.1% diff between all of them

doesnt really matter

ideally pants get left out in full bis

but thats only in full bis

[clever path]

dont u want ad head

[young swan]

not anymore

i mean again

0.1% diff

if that

it literally doesnt matter

use what u got

[clever path]

ye

[young swan]

but yeah bis includes tier helm + gnarlroot pants now

[pastel agate]

Thoughts on having 2 Shadowflame embeleshments?

[young swan]

its more ST than allied wrists

[clever path]

more st than allied

[young swan]

and less aoe than allied wrists

[left perch]

allied wrists is just unfun

shadowflame sounds fun

[clever path]

lariat most fun

[coarse nest]

Lariat owns

[clever path]

i get like 12 seconds of stats

13

[slate geyser]

And where does lariat fit there ? When and which one would you chnage?

[young swan]

frostfire pantaloons of haste

[clever path]

mikanikos node

[left perch]

man those pants

had so much potential

[young swan]

they are legitimately good

[clever path]

nah that mikanikos node was so fun

[young swan]

right now

[left perch]

they just make me play like im wearing OWS again

[coarse nest]

I run allied wrists and Lariat with earth gems I think?

[warm crag]

frostfire pantaloon tindral hack

[young swan]

because we just dont wanna run gear with haste

[young swan]

igira

[clever path]

real

[left perch]

tank getting mad BRO DID YOU PULL AGAIN?

[young swan]

fyrakk

[warm crag]

infinite value

[left perch]

oh did they go up in value with hasted leggo?

[young swan]

honestly its probably pretty sick in m+ too

[left perch]

as if i have leggo 😦

[clever path]

has to be

[young swan]

more like they went up in value cause theres a couple bosses that just spawn adds every 20s or so and we really just dont care about haste enough to gear for it

[clever path]

lariat + frostfire

[prisma sleet]

which trinket should i run for M+?

[young swan]

but we still like it enough to take free 1k haste procs

[young swan]

id run block + ember

assuming all are equal ilvl

[clever path]

those trinkets are straight ass

apart from ember and block

go farm throne

for might

of the ocean

[past pivot]

Helm enchant scales with ilvl so just makes sense to use tier and highest ilvl you can get. And a socket.

[prisma sleet]

yeh im getting real unlucky with trinkets 😦

alright ill try those combos ty

[past pivot]

Keep ember. It’s very good. Better with leggo. The others are not good. As said, you want Might.
Optimally, you want Might and Augury for M+

[barren dagger]

how is rezans ass

[past pivot]

Rezan is an ST trinket

[barren dagger]

yeah t's useful on tyrannical

[coarse nest]

Might ember is a great combo

[past pivot]

Not really. Gore is his next best trinket after ember for keys

[coarse nest]

Augury pumps but is rng value

Ember static good value

[prisma sleet]

is lfr augury worth it or stick with 483 trinkets

[ember apex]

ember has nice value on everbloom when ur pug group is trolling kicks on those 9sec stuns

[past pivot]

If you really need ST for tyr weeks, you are better off with Signet or Ember or Crab rather than Rezan in m+ imo at least

But I’d still run Might and Augury over them

[covert blaze]

I would use augury but you can sim it

[past pivot]

It’s about even or just below iirc. Assuming a maxed lfr augury.

[lean wasp]

Did they actually change anything with legendary or wowhead is just reposting old stuff

[odd star]

Sometimes the only button I have to press is BT but I still have a t31 2pc charge from OF. Am I right to delay pressing stuff and wait for the next rampage (without pressing BT) or should I just keep pressing and use the charge in BT instead of BB?

I even made a WA to track my 31 pc charges to make sure I dont use them out of BB

[modest condor]

the article literally links you to the hotfix it's refering to

[amber arch]

ok so I thought everyone was running Dancing blades locked in (mostly bc you guys told me to)

[lean wasp]

Yea ik i even read the whole thing which i never do and still i got confused

[amber arch]

but if TR is more damage and QoL then why not lol

[modest condor]

TR is more aoe damage, in high keys prio damage becomes more important but if you're doing weekly 20s then TR is gonna make you look better on the meters

[odd star]

tr is pad aoe
db is prio and bosses

i like boss dmg so almost always db for me

[lean wasp]

Ok am still confused about augury, it never sims as upgrade on 3 or 5 mins ST, compared the damage between my 483 rezan and one of our warriors augury on nymue and it almost did the same damage not factoring the stats difference

Am just confused why everyone is hyped about augury its almost feels like a downgrade or am i wrong here?

[slim coral]

Back on the search for a guild

[modest condor]

augury and rezan go back and forth which one is better on st

[plush ice]

did your guild go kabloey

[past pivot]

Augury is simply BIS for ST and MT

[modest condor]

also mythic augury goes 7 ilvls higher than rezan so while a normal or heroic augury may not win, a mythic one will

[slim coral]

no I left becuae they were underperfoming

[warm crag]

you left before you had a guild lined up?

[sudden tusk]

augery at 489 does consistantly arouhf 5.5-7% of my overall in M+

plus its crit which is moer valuable in multi

[lean wasp]

I can't even get a heroic augury so that doesn't count

[modest condor]

crit is less valuable than mainstat in all content

[lean wasp]

Ok in m+ i can see augury being better but in raid it doesn't seem worth it

[sudden tusk]

itll be interesting how the vers trink sims

when i get the legendary tomorrow

for sure

trust

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-of-here-gif-24981088

[modest condor]

if rezan sims better for you on st then you can run it on st fights

augury will give you more benefit on fights that have aoe

[lean wasp]

What about crab? I haven't really simmed it but is it ever compared to those trinkets

[formal ravine]

HOW THE FLYING FUCK DO YOU GET IN A KEY THIS WEEK

jesus

[barren dagger]

you dont

[lean wasp]

Do your own keys

[formal ravine]

bro evne that doesn't work

I am not joking

[modest condor]

crab isnt bad either

mastery is always good for us and the avoidance it gives is a nice bonus albeit not very reliable

[formal ravine]

Even listing my keys i am getting potatoes applying cus nobody wants to play with fucking warriors

I fuckikng hate those new affixes with a burning passion

[lean wasp]

Well we are gonna be progging smolderon for next couple of weeks i will try all the trinket comps

[barren dagger]

the trick is to apply to keys with worse players so you're forceed to step up and carry them

[modest condor]

eh

[barren dagger]

learning the hard way

[formal ravine]

Dude i am applying to 3 key levels down

And i am getting ignored

[modest condor]

for smolderon you could run an on use trinket to line it up with the damage bonus, but otherwise just run with what sims best

[slim coral]

yeah

[gilded pawn]

i heard might of the ocean is good

[slim coral]

no shot am I gonna sit through 300 pulls of fyrakk p1 intermission

[gilded pawn]

why not

[slim coral]

tis boring

[lean wasp]

Yeah might of the ocean seems good

I think might and signet will be my choice for smolderon

[plush ice]

i mean, have you already done that many pulls

[slim coral]

I havent

the guild is stick on p1 intermission

after 350 pulls they canot get past it

[storm rune]

Time to call it at that point

[plush ice]

so, you joined the guild recently, so thhose pulls were befor eyou

[slim coral]

I joined this guild at the end of VOTI

it was hof but the good players had to go back to china

[plush ice]

wiat, then that dosn't make any sense, they've done 350 pulls, but you havn't?

[slim coral]

how are you confused

I am not longer in said guild

after tindral I left

[plush ice]

oh

i mean, you were quite unclear, hehe, quite easy to be confused

[true girder]

got a question about Odyn's fury usage; If you already have avatar up, does the reduced effectiveness avatar you get from Odyns Fury overwrite the current one? It adds to the time but unsure if it makes it any worse,

[wispy thistle]

Not anymore, you just lose uptime on dancing blades

at least to my understanding

[modest condor]

reduced effectiveness just means it has a shorter duration, it's the same buff

and yes it just adds duration on top

[true girder]

oh thats interesting ty

assumed it meant reduced damage buff

[modest condor]

yeah idk why they would word it like that

just say it gives you 4 seconds of avatar

[slim coral]

billion dollar company

[clever path]

after 500 pulls of tindral

[slim coral]

oh don't worry I was gonna leave mid tindral Gm asked me nicely to finish the boss

[clever path]

fun boss

[modest condor]

we're almost 200 pulls into tindral and we just got to 2nd intermission for the first time

[clever path]

surely its a fun boss

thats not cancer

[modest condor]

this boss is cursed

[slim coral]

it was fun the first 200 pulls

[clever path]

the worst part is

[slim coral]

but I knew the guild couldnt kill it pre nerf

so

[clever path]

u get to p3 like 5 pulls in a row

thne for the rest of the night

wiping to first 20 seconds

of the fight

[barren dagger]

damn dorki and maximum saying warrior dps is super flawed atm. "they have very little utility but imagine you give them a purge or cc to deal with incorp or afflicted, then it messes up the whole pvp meta"

yeah we're fucked

i hate incorp and afflicted

[true girder]

why not give us lust, its just a spicy rallying cry

[slim coral]

just make it so we can't use it in pvp

[storm rune]

Give Rallying Cry PI

[true girder]

^ true some group utility like that would be fun

[formal ravine]

What's the name of mastery vers food

i can't freaking find it

[storm rune]

It'll be like when the boss walks into a room and starts yelling so everyone works a bit quicker for the 20 seconds he's in the room

[past pivot]

Great Cerulean Sea

[worn ibex]

Wasn’t spell reflect a group thing back in the day or am I mixing that with rally?

[clever path]

mass spell reflect in shadowlands

leggo

[past pivot]

pvp talent I thought

[clever path]

they should bring that back

for prot utility

[worn ibex]

Yeah they should!!

That was a great utility

Imagine group reflection in Ad lmao

[barren dagger]

just make storm bolt deal with an incorporeal completely

not partial

[worn ibex]

Yeah 4 secs is not enough of anything

[past pivot]

Enough classes have lust. We need a unique utility imo. Like bubble immunity shout.

Rally The Troops. 10-minute c/d. You sense imminent victory and rally the troops, fighting off fatigue and injuries to make your party immune to all damage for 5 seconds before taking 100% extra damage for 5 seconds after that.

[worn ibex]

Ever even with the usual mob, basically a sappy interrupt

[sour frigate]

Was a talent that gave reflect to intervene

And a leggo that gave reflect to u and ally on cast

[amber arch]

its not pad if it needs to die

[covert coyote]

TiL DH interrupt can be 10 yards and give them resource? Why do we even play the brown bars

[untold moth]

Because the Rage bar is actually our anger at the devs

Class wouldnt function otherwise

[silk wharf]

I still think giving warriors a bres shout would be great fun and rp. Just the idea of yelling at someone who died til they got back up is comical.

[formal ravine]

Why stop there even?

We can have revitalizing shout for aoe healing

For single target healing it will not be a shout

It will be mild yelling

[left perch]

Everyone in the kitchen needs to get out right now

Turn in your apron and your cooking licenses

[hard widget]

Bro

Inbefore we get 5 new shouts we need on our bars

Kekw

[strong aspen]

Hey, u guys think we will be using legendary next season?

[oblique trail]

no

[hard widget]

yes

[past pivot]

An upgraded one, yes.

[strong aspen]

upgraded? u think it or u know something? xD Cause last season leggo for augs not using atm

[hard widget]

Next tier is fated meaning this tiers legendary and last tiers legendary return

Just higher ilvl

[strong aspen]

yap thats true

[past pivot]

Next season will be fated. This season isn't. Evoker leggo was overstated. Was/is closer to 486 or 496

[strong aspen]

anyways as fated season what we gonna do, improve leggo, get it again? dont think so

[past pivot]

We don't know

[strong aspen]

anyways still dont have it, doing raid since 1st week XD

[past pivot]

Just loot the quest

[hard widget]

In shadowlands u could use an upgrade token on the legendary if you already had it

[strong aspen]

wich ones?

[hard widget]

But we dont know if they're gonna do something like that again

The bow for hunters

[strong aspen]

oh didnt know that

and how u get that token in SL?

just to think about if its gonna be the same way

[hard widget]

I mean we dont know what they will do

[strong aspen]

yep just talking about

[hard widget]

So before i stoke off an entire explaination on how s4 shadowlands worked

[strong aspen]

i just dont want to get leggo last week before patch (thats what gonna happen) an put it into my bank

[fair oasis]

does mainstat affect fyralath active dmg?

[sour frigate]

No

vers and haste do

[fair oasis]

what does exactly affects its active dam? across all our stats and abilities/trinkets

was told avatar dmg amp affects it

[sour frigate]

no

only vers gives damage

and haste makes it more bursty

[oblique trail]

Crit affects it as well

Both the active and dot portion

But Reck wont

[fair oasis]

does haste juice the actives dam with more "hits" or does it jsut make the active dmg happen faster

[sour frigate]

channels faster

[amber arch]

ok so wait in M+ is TR is more damage, do I swap to Slaughtering Strikes as well instead of bloodcraze?

[silk wharf]

I just move the exe talents over to whirlwind and spear over to roar.

[gilded pawn]

titanic rage is more damage in mass aoe

not thunderous roar

you try to play spear if you can

roar is for when you cant stand in spear

[split comet]

Roar is uncapped

[hard widget]

Most m+ fury warriors play with dancing blades since it gives you more single target damage

[split comet]

Spear is reduced after 5

[clever belfry]

real kings play loboz build

[split comet]

Well it’s more the bonus from titanic rage is negligible so might as well go ST right?

[clever belfry]

and do dmg every 90s

[clever path]

real

and 90k st

[clever belfry]

So true

[hard widget]

Well not really

[clever belfry]

fuck st, group issue

u blast more burst

[clever path]

true

u burst for like

3 mil

[hard widget]

What build?

[clever path]

loboz

spear troar

ravager of

ra

no anni

based build

[hard widget]

Basically dump as much into a 10 sec window build

And then do nothing

[clever path]

yes

[hard widget]

Sounds interesting

[clever belfry]

it's

not it

to actually time keys

[hard widget]

I know

But sounds fun xd

[oblique trail]

Loboz build

[twin glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/raingump-kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-gif-26528408

[noble elm]

Imagine having to rng farm leggo again

You wanna talk about raging

[hard widget]

I think u missed the point where i mentioned that they'll most likely introduce an upgrade token for it again

Just like in shadowlands

However we'll see

I doubt they'll give us 1 chance every 3 weeks

[noble elm]

I don’t

That sounds exactly like something they’d do 🤷

[hard widget]

Thats just dooming xd

[clever belfry]

loboz build

[noble elm]

Nah dooming would be like “what if they made the leggo random drop, then when it did drop you had to farm or buy hundreds of thousands of gold worth of mats, then do a bunch of asinine quests. Then after all that it’s so bad they’ll have to buff it twice just to get people to feel like it’s kind of worth it.”

That would be dooming

But that could never happen

[burnt stone]

Hello brothers
For MT, if the rage is below 85%, do you cast BT rather than ramp if BT is available? (When there is no reck buff)

[oblique trail]

I do that regardless of being ST or MT

[slim coral]

surprised no fyrakk nerfs

[hard widget]

Depends on skills available to you but mostly yes

[dapper goblet]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[clever belfry]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[amber arch]

What are you talking about no one plays spear in M+

[clever path]

on st

[prisma sleet]

did lego get buffed?

[warm crag]

not since the channel being hasted

[burnt stone]

I am having trouble choosing m+ trinkets.
489ilvl There is a cataclysm, but there are many cases where the buff cannot be continued
Which is better between 483augury and 483ember or 489ragheart?

[noble elm]

I would use Aug / ember and farm might of the ocean asap and run might + Aug.

Rageheart is also high value for like 26+ keys where the shield can get a lot of use

But might aligns with our cds at 90sand I don’t see much outperforming it from a damage perspective in m+, at least it never has in any of the sims I’ve run

Probably get some other opinions on how to best sim the scenario

[burnt stone]

I don't like Ocean. I don't think it's a good idea to wear two pieces of jewelry that don't have strength.

[warm crag]

fury doesnt need rageheart

[fringe flame]

It syncs up with your cooldowns.

[summer quail]

it alligns with all your cds tho, very nice trinket

[noble elm]

I agree it doesn’t need it but I’ve found limited use for it in some keys, I don’t think I’d run it over might sans a few situations

[clever path]

fury doesnt need it in 31s

funny spec

brown color never die

[noble elm]

It’s not a bad trinket regardless, but like I said might is right

[open prairie]

where fyralath

[warm crag]

if you die to something that wouldve required rageheart to survive your other team members sure as shit won't

[oblique trail]

In my vault tomorrow

[open prairie]

copa

[oblique trail]

My life is owari if I don't get it tomorrow

[burnt stone]

Ocean is too weak without cd

[noble elm]

Well if you are basing your gear on your own personal feelings this is maybe not the right place to ask that question

[open prairie]

isnt tomorrow tuesday

[oblique trail]

Tomorrow is Wednesday for EU frogs

[open prairie]

the day doesnt start until 6

though

[fringe flame]

No it isn't. Crit is a perfectly fine stat for AoE, which is a good majority of m+

[oblique trail]

Damn sorry I'm still in Monday even though it's 2:35 AM

[noble elm]

You know this is actually a really logical statement I can’t argue with

[oblique trail]

silly American

[noble elm]

Like you’re absolutely right, pointless if I survive and everyone else dies, lol

[open prairie]

actually its 2:35

you 24 hr person

[open prairie]

am/pm is better ill die on this hill

[oblique trail]

what

That's what I said

[slim coral]

I love night time

It’s such a vibe

[open prairie]

yeah its jokes

[slim coral]

Post meridian gamer

[noble elm]

Am/pm is a struggle in the it world

[fringe flame]

Post Meridian and After Meridian 🙂

[open prairie]

awk moment benzai gets axe on reset but not enough time to get

[noble elm]

Everything is 24h Zulu time

[open prairie]

before raid

[burnt stone]

My crit is already high, about 30% even without Ocean.

[summer quail]

is that without crit flask?

[noble elm]

It could be an intellect trinket you’re missing the point

The reason might is so good is that it drops 2xxx mainstat with your cds, every time

That’s why it’s good - the static crit value is a gain but that’s not why it’s as good as it is

[restive peak]

Yeah bruh he's 1 of the better warriors, he's not wrong that ocean isn't always needed; I've timed almost all my 28/29s w rageheart, and it's really not a massive diff, and while Spongie is right it still takes some stress off your healer.

[warm crag]

he also cancels prescience tho so

[dapper goblet]

augs steal damage

fuck them

[warm crag]

real

[open prairie]

real

[amber arch]

how big a diff is bloodcrazy vs SS in M+?

kind of feel like running TC and SS now

[slim coral]

I personally dislike ocean

Such a boring trinket

[oblique trail]

Most trinkets are boring

[amber arch]

either boring or like overly complicated minigame

boring is fine its just gear

[young swan]

trinkets have been boring since they removed the ability for them to benefit from cd's and mastery

[oblique trail]

I'd much rather have Might instead of Agi Branch

[young swan]

thank fury in legion for that btw

[open prairie]

which buffs do you need to cancelaura again btw

ebon might, prescience, shifting sands

i think theres another one?

[amber arch]

why?

[open prairie]

in non serious content

because down with aug

[lunar cape]

isnt there a breath one

[open prairie]

oh right breath of eons

[signal leaf]

hi is there any reason that rampage spend 62 fury instead of 80?

[oblique trail]

Frothing Berserker procced

Refunds 20% of the cost

[signal leaf]

refund value has already calculated before skill cast?

[oblique trail]

No it's after

[dapper goblet]

🔦 🏠 👑 🧎‍♂️

[signal leaf]

ah previous rampage

got a refund

[oblique trail]

Yes

[signal leaf]

thx

[coarse adder]

microsofts version of wow is going to only be for the micro cucks

[oblique trail]

oh okay

[modest condor]

thanks for letting us know

[coarse adder]

out here doing big philanthropic work

[signal leaf]

one more question

as per tooltip, 20% for frothing berserker

but it feels like 100% refund...

is this right?

[oblique trail]

You do not get a 100% refund

[signal leaf]

nono probability

[oblique trail]

It's not a 100% chance to refund either

[signal leaf]

just am i lucky?

[oblique trail]

If every single Rampage you cast gets a refund then yes you're very lucky

[coarse adder]

no you are just overestimating whats happening because you smoking big crack rocks

[oblique trail]

Consider that during Reck you're also auto attacking, which generates rage from the auto attack itself + Annihilator

[coarse adder]

or its a bug and not reporting it would equal bug abuse

[oblique trail]

All which is doubled

[coarse adder]

40% then tops?

[oblique trail]

It's not a bug

[coarse adder]

if you are hitting 100% refund then its a bug lol

[oblique trail]

And I just explained what the 100% refund thing might be instead

Because it's not 100%

Lucky streaks also happen, albeit unlikely

[coarse adder]

yeah thats why i said hes overestimating what hes seeing cause hes smoking o much crack

probably like 40% tosp

tops

[oblique trail]

It's 20%

[coarse adder]

on a lucky streak i mean

[burnt stone]

When gcd is in progress, it is quite difficult to determine whether the auto attack is faster than the end of the gcd and how much rage the auto attack will produce, and then choose whether to input ramp or slam.

[oblique trail]

Whether you're on a streak or not it's still 20%

[burnt stone]

The reason fury is easy yet difficult lol

[coarse adder]

idk i think people say specs that are easy arent at all and some people claim are hard are easy as fuck]

[oblique trail]

Most people who somewhat care about their performance would be able to pick up any spec and perform at an average level if they give it a bit of time to learn it

[coarse adder]

guess it depends on what you enjoy though

[oblique trail]

No spec is inherently difficult if you actually care to learn it and use some time

[coarse adder]

enjoyment = far greater performance imo

[oblique trail]

Sure I don't dispute that

[coarse adder]

i feel it lol started branching out recently its all easy as fuck

to play at a decent level

think i could mythic raid on any spec with about a month to learn

[dapper goblet]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[burnt stone]

[coarse adder]

asian letters are you asian

[oblique trail]

nihao

[coarse adder]

wo hen hao

if somebody messages me privately after a solo shuffle match talking shit... i should beable to tell them to take their micro dick and set themselves on fire without getting suspended..

[oblique trail]

Or maybe you're just unstable

[modest condor]

^

[open prairie]

need mentally unstable goth egirls

[warm crag]

cmicrosofts version of wow is going to only be for the micro cucks

[coarse adder]

i mean its not like i actually want it to happen.. Harsh words should be said for people who go out of their way to message people after a match especially when they didnt do any better.

[coarse adder]

yerp

[coarse adder]

just like the cucks who have been play recycled sports games with roster changes for 15 years

[warm crag]

crazy they'd do that microcucks

[oblique trail]

Searching on a daily basis

[coarse adder]

is it a bonus if shes going to peg you>

cause thats like a 99% chance with an unstable goth egirl

[open prairie]

need citation

[modest condor]

can we not

[coarse adder]

why?

[storm rune]

Cuz it makes it hard to sit for long periods of time

[coarse adder]

just get a donut g

[young swan]

not only is it off topic but its just not appropriate

[coarse adder]

says the one named after xanax

[young swan]

not what im named after

[coarse adder]

prove it

[lean valley]

Droprate on Might of the Ocean?

[young swan]

not high enough

[wild mural]

Real

[coarse adder]

if nobody is talking on topic their is no topic meaning anything can be talked about. If somebody came in asking a question that would take priority.

[young swan]

refer to the second part of the sentence

[coarse adder]

heres my question for you which goth egirl broke your heart baby cakes

[young swan]

none

[coarse adder]

mmmhmm

[storm rune]

Her name was xX_Meowkittyrawr_Xx

God do I miss her

[coarse adder]

rip poor william "the gut" knifeman

[storm rune]

https://tenor.com/view/bump-trailer-park-boys-belly-fat-belly-gif-14072035

[coarse adder]

the should make a microcuck server and then have the rest of the servers be for the normal people

they

make gaming great again

god i wish i was that chick on the bus

[storm rune]

Your real name must be Mr. Lahey

[sudden tusk]

WHY IS RALLY IN SOD

BETTER THEN RETAIL

HUH

[open prairie]

honestly

throne aint bad

lots of reflect dam

[coarse adder]

No I am the Liquor.

[sharp wadi]

is there an issue with weapon durability rn? if i die in a key my weapons are trashed every time

[sinful spoke]

what are u yapping about

[open prairie]

btw is there any way to tell if ghursha is gonna target you for flameshock

or is it entirely rng

[coarse adder]

safe space servers for the people that need them and let normal people just play without them policing everything and lording over everything.

[sinful spoke]

again

what are u yapping about

[coarse adder]

if you dont get it you probaly belong on the first type of server.

[sinful spoke]

youre typing words but not saying anything

pipe it

[sharp wadi]

bro's trying to make his own safe space by removing the people he doesn't like :(

[coarse adder]

it makes sense if you are normal

[sinful spoke]

hes so weird

[balmy shore]

rng but you should be tracking the flame shock so you can try and reflect it if it does end up being on you. first one's like 3 seconds in

throne's a fun one as warrior

[coarse adder]

safe spaces are for people who cant handle words

[sinful spoke]

jackie leggo tomorrow?

[sinful spoke]

so you

[coarse adder]

nah if you report somebody for words you dont like you need a safe space

[sharp wadi]

ironic

[oblique trail]

Just do your best to be a decent human individual

[coarse adder]

saying words doesnt make you a bad person

[oblique trail]

And not look for conflict at every chance you get

[sinful spoke]

what kind of words

can u elaborate

[oblique trail]

I don't think they should

[coarse adder]

Ok for example is my gay boss a bad person because he talks about flaming fs?

[sinful spoke]

???

[oblique trail]

I think you should just stop

=)

[coarse adder]

nah answer or is a black person a bad person for saying things..

[sinful spoke]

okay no stfu

[coarse adder]

so if they say it in game are they a bad person or are you just a soft fuck

nah this is real fuck off bitch

you belong in a safe space

[oblique trail]

This is not the place to talk about these things lol

[harsh maple]

I swear, one day I’ll open this tab and there will be actual class discussion.

[coarse adder]

if somebody talks aboutclass then that is what it will be

[summer quail]

there's plenty in the arms channel

[oblique trail]

I'm sure you can find a safe space for yourself to discuss this as much as you want

[coarse adder]

until then answer chech

[sinful spoke]

stfu

man

[coarse adder]

this is fury welcome to the rage g

[balmy shore]

doubt doubt doubt x3 for my three characters

[young swan]

take a break

[harsh maple]

I noticed, less daddy issues too.

[sinful spoke]

i believe

[summer quail]

[sinful spoke]

🙏

[balmy shore]

[sinful spoke]

i get my 3rd

tomorrow

[balmy shore]

ember gang lives on

[oblique trail]

love it here

I don't need 12k more dps

[balmy shore]

im on some copium where i've decided i actually don't want the legendary

[storm rune]

If my guild wasn't paying for my lego I wouldn't even bother crafting it tbh

[summer quail]

if you genuinely don't want the leggo you will get it. if even you want it 1% you get cursed

[past pivot]

#Embersquad... awkward

[open prairie]

unless crushing depths never targets you

until the mob is at 5%

and dies before first tick

[balmy shore]

a classic

but still fun with the flame shock one too

[hallow moth]

BROS. WHAT IF OUR TIER SET HAD BEEN SOMETHING REVOLVING AROUND THUNDEROUS ROAR. TO BE ON THEME OF DRAGONFLIGHT LOOKIN ASS

[past pivot]

What if our caps lock wasn't broken?

[hallow moth]

are you acoustic

[past pivot]

No. I can be amped up.

[hallow moth]

but imagine if thunderous roar did something like cool and got to be used more

[past pivot]

Not sure how that is dragon-like. But to play along, what to do about Spear? If anything, the leggo's on-use should have mimic'd evoker's Deep Breath. A channeled stun with damage and a dot applied.

[open prairie]

honestly

i miss old spear

why this ugly earth brown

[past pivot]

Agreed.

[modest condor]

delete spear

[oblique trail]

delete warrior

[open prairie]

imagine if spear gets to sl levels again

then get very madge when tanks walk mobs out

[modest condor]

spear is pretty much on sl levels

[summer quail]

would free me from the stockholm syndrome

[modest condor]

we just have roar now which is better on aoe

[oblique trail]

Would free me from no-lego jail

[open prairie]

no more “hello can i play kyrian on sanguine week”

[summer quail]

you want the leggo too badly, blizz can smell it

[past pivot]

They'll bring back Condemn but instead of the condemn animation, it'll just be a finger wag and be called: SMH (not SMF or DMF)

[open prairie]

miss that fr

[modest condor]

current spear does a lot more damage on its own, it's just 2 seconds shorter so less benefit from EM

[open prairie]

it is nice they made roar

a non poop button though

in df

“uhh press this if you have nothing else”

[oblique trail]

Helps having multiple modifiers to increase its damage further

And Arms having like 7 different bleed synergies

[open prairie]

i heard monks are real happy about blizz redesigning faeline stomp

instead of just removing it

[past pivot]

Roar seems like a filler to me. Not an endcap talent.

[oblique trail]

They keep talking about it

So surely they must like it

[open prairie]

clueless

[young swan]

spear donkey poopoo

remove it

from the game

[open prairie]

bring back necro banner

[clever path]

Ive learned to love spear this patch

[open prairie]

and make it a 1.5min cd

[young swan]

no

wrong

[open prairie]

[young swan]

bote

or die

bote better

[clever path]

Mostly cause big bb crits are so fun

[open prairie]

spear is basically poor man’s bote

[young swan]

correct

give us bote

[open prairie]

nah 1.5min cd necro banner

then we get “utility”

[young swan]

necro banner

will either be so good

[open prairie]

[young swan]

u use it for teammates

or

it will be perma uptime and we will have s2 in raid agian

and it will be dogshit

[sullen dove]

bote is just an of that does instant damage instead of a dot and gives you reck and avatar

[young swan]

thats literally what spear does

they are the same

[sullen dove]

spear lasts 6 sec at least

[young swan]

except bote is better

by a lot

[sullen dove]

where would we be if we didnt have eating an intermission ring on smolderon

[open prairie]

stack leech

ez

[modest condor]

ive said this many times before but necro banner wouldnt work with our current rage economy

you would just be spamming rampage for the duration of banner

[sullen dove]

its am with a different coat of paint

i.e. dogshit

[young swan]

am isnt dogshit

UF and rage economy is dogshit

[modest condor]

like imagine you were playing rav am but you have permanent uptime on rav

that's necro banner

[sullen dove]

ppl salivating over banner b4 it got nerfed in s3 sl

when it wouldve just been the most mind numbing shit

[modest condor]

you would only have been able to really play it on like 3 bosses anyway

[open prairie]

my favorite part about s3 sl

was people asking why cb charge got them killed on skolex

[sullen dove]

[oblique trail]

It also got them killed on Halondrus

If only CB still had the charge on it..

[open prairie]

that was almost 2 years ago….

holy fug

[sullen dove]

did it not have the charge in s1

dont remember tbh but vaguely remember some cuckenings on dathea

but maybe that was just dathea

[sudden tusk]

hey @young swan

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[sudden tusk]

classic players get better rally then we do

[sullen dove]

yea its way easier to complain about not getting high ranks because of leggo diff

once its actually acquired then theres less room for excuses

[pastel agate]

Not sure if you remember me but im the guy that was talking about the haste earlier.

Just did a dungeon and my DPS went down a lot. Not having the haste makes my rotation so different. Like before I was pretty much able to procc rampage on every other global cooldown.

[modest condor]

even if i get the lego im still just 10k behind because i dont have a wft

[open prairie]

just play a meme spec like ele shaman

[sullen dove]

hey man

ele pops off

on like 2 bosses

[oblique trail]

We have an ele sham for Tindie

[modest condor]

that has nothing to do with haste, your rage gen and gcd scale the exact same with haste

[oblique trail]

His damage is invisible basically for that fight even going full ST

[pastel agate]

Melee speed = more rage, no?

[open prairie]

sounds like boomkin dam

[young swan]

hey :3

[sudden tusk]

:3

[clever path]

they should bring back halls of reflection from wrath and add it to the m+ pool

[hardy cargo]

:3

[keen kindle]

I wonna kms

[clever path]

imagine +30 tyran lich king

[frail trout]

The legendary feels good on mythic Tindral, but then you remember that your stuck on mythic Tindral

[restive peak]

FUCKING

CE

HOF

FINALLY

FUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKK

[sudden tusk]

poggies

[sullen dove]

surely lego

[hardy cargo]

grats

[clever path]

surely leggo

[restive peak]

Nope

And IDGAF

It's dead

[modest condor]

0% haste: auto attack every 3.6 seconds, gcd is 1.5 second, your auto attacks are 2.4 times as long as your gcd
100% haste: auto attack every 1.8 seconds, gcd is 0.75 second, your auto attacks are still 2.4 times as long as your gcd

[pastel agate]

Granted I did have over 200 Ms in the dungeon cause the party leader was based in Australia.

It sounds like that affected things cause I’m usually at 24 Ms.

[clever path]

im like 99% sure the game isnt p2p

u play on the server

maybe ur server was overloaded at the time

[pastel agate]

Also your knowledge is impressive

[olive wraith]

When are they releasing the last minute fury buffs for reset tomorrow

[modest condor]

i spend way too much time researching things

[clever path]

tomorrow

[olive wraith]

1 hour before reset? Sounds like it’ll happen

[clever path]

sod phase 2 is more important

[thorny peak]

any tips for old heroic fyrakk?

[pastel agate]

It’s a known thing actually cause aussies usually put “OCE” when they are looking for people to let them know that the group will be based in Australia.

From my understanding the server depends on the group leader.

[olive wraith]

Don’t move lines

Don’t hit heal ads with lines

[pastel agate]

Lots of folks are talking about the raid here. Wer my mythic+ addicts at

[restive peak]

I can't believe it's over

[past pivot]

Leggo?

[restive peak]

Nope but IDGAF

Fr

I'm so happy I don't care lmao

483 brand 483 auggie no leggo we still out here

[olive wraith]

They’re waiting for s4

Or applying to 50 keys

[past pivot]

Waiting for sanguine to end tomorrow

[clever path]

@mossy fox why were you human over nelf? Just dps or human on use for something?

[covert blaze]

so true bestie

[past pivot]

Human DPs is sick

[restive peak]

Human better DPS

[clever path]

It only show like a 150 dps upgrade

Are we minmaxxing sidegrades

[olive wraith]

Human can also racial Goliath root

[sullen dove]

race matters so much

[balmy shore]

yea ur cursed af

[past pivot]

150? Much more than that

[young swan]

thank u thank u

[clever path]

Nah

[young swan]

no more mention of eating tomatoes like apples

u freak

[clever path]

Ill send sim tomorrow

[oblique trail]

It's 1.5k above Nelf

Which he was before

Roughly

[sullen dove]

[balmy shore]

yea it's hard to care at all about parses rn for me

[modest condor]

why are you burning?

[clever path]

Its 150 above dwarf

[balmy shore]

ember gang

[covert blaze]

I bite into them like a feral animal; very sloppy about it

[balmy shore]

1 for main warr, 1 for alt warr, 1 for ret alt

[modest condor]

dude im legit simming 30k less than the people im competing with, i think it's fair to blame my lack of parses on that

[balmy shore]

10000%

how can u even compete

[balmy shore]

voodoo

[clever path]

We opening vault as prot tomorrow babeee

[past pivot]

1.5k + human racials is pretty big imo

[modest condor]

im pretty happy with being able to get purple parses in the first place

[clever path]

Not 1.5k. 150 dps

[restive peak]

the voodoo failed tonight @dapper goblet

[modest condor]

it was simming higher for crit, does it matter by how much?

[dapper goblet]

the voodo worked hence why you raided tonight and kill it

[past pivot]

Read what Banzai wrote

[restive peak]

No more Monday raids thank god

[covert blaze]

@restive peak fyrakk dead?

[clever path]

I was just asking if there was an ulterior reasoning besides slightly bigger sim

[restive peak]

YESSIIRRRRR

[covert blaze]

YOOOOOOOOO

[restive peak]

Rockin my famed title like a fuckin loser

[young swan]

[restive peak]

We hyped

483 aug/brand no leggo WE BALL ANYWAY BAYBEEEEEEEEEE

[covert blaze]

any good loot

[restive peak]

Now tm I'll get leggo+489 augury and brand, watch

Nah

Avoidance plate chest but Equinox took ofc, makes sense

Otherwise nothin great

[covert blaze]

the monk guy?

[restive peak]

Ye

He's our MT

[covert blaze]

that guy plays the game

[restive peak]

But he was prot pala for raid

[balmy shore]

true voodoo did work

[modest condor]

next reset we voodoo

[balmy shore]

despair only ember

[restive peak]

Bro he does 12 hr streams 7 days a week LOL

[covert blaze]

bro is on the grind

[upbeat sentinel]

Me getting lego and heroic brand/augury

[upbeat sentinel]

They ain’t gotta reach back that far PLs

[storm rune]

Imagine being that dedicated, I can't even drag my ass into m+ at this point in the season

[upbeat sentinel]

EB is already god awful for certain affixes because it wasn’t designed with M+ in mind

[restive peak]

Dude loves WoW more than you or I can imagine man

[dapper goblet]

hope he recovers from his illness

[pastel agate]

I hate EB

[prisma sleet]

hm vers or crit pots? my crit strike is 19% and vers is 20%

[pastel agate]

Is Allied Wristguard of Companionship x 2 better for Mythic+ than 2x Shadowflame. Or is one of each better?

[young swan]

u cant have double allied wristguards

allied + SF would be better for aoe than 2x SF tho

[pastel agate]

Ty!

[gilded pawn]

i wish i can have friends to use allied wristguards with

[young swan]

crit will get you more damage, vers is cheaper and provides defensive benefit

[prisma sleet]

hm ok ty

[open prairie]

dont you always have 4 stacks of the buff in group content