#fury

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amber arch
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still sims better at 476 than other trinkets

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except mirror, but I dont like running mirror in keys

barren dagger
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Can anyone confirm how vault actually works btw? Do you need to do a tott for that week to have a chance at a tott item in vault?

oblique trail
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You don't

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M+ has every dungeon in its loot pool

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Regardless of the dungeon you did

barren dagger
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So i can get 489 augury killing just gnarlroot heroic?

amber arch
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and raid too right?

oblique trail
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No, raid vault only has the items from bosses you've killed on that difficulty, however it's just to unlock the item

barren dagger
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ah ok so they are different

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Damn

supple laurel
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šŸ˜†

amber arch
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Im sure I found gloves from raid in my M+ slots of vault though last week

oblique trail
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For example you've killed Fyrakk already in a previous week on Heroic, but in the future you only kill the first 7 Heroic bosses, you have a chance at Augury still because you've unlocked Fyrakk's loot

oblique trail
amber arch
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ya

oblique trail
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Tier items are gonna be in both the M+ and raid vault

amber arch
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ahhh kk

sour frigate
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same i still have 476 one

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goin this anyway

amber arch
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do you guys macro it to Reck or avatar?

sour frigate
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no

past pivot
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Neither.

sour frigate
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u rek into of then avatar to extend

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of with might

oblique trail
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I have it macro'd to Avatar, but only because I always use it on its own before I Rampage in the opener

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Otherwise just macro it to Reck if you really are going to

barren dagger
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I macro to reck tbh.

sour frigate
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not a big deal

supple laurel
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I have it with Ava aswell

amber arch
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ya ill probably do both

supple laurel
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both last 20 secs

barren dagger
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so i get it for aoe burst when i do rampage+BB x2 before avatar

ember apex
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p3 tindral proggers and people who have killed tindral, i have a question.

I was benched my previous raid b/c i was lowest boss dps and we had a sub rogue that could put up numbers. my guild is getting to platform 3 w/ higher than normal boss HP so my RL asked me to do more. ST damage. he says i can have a freedom for every root set and root/add damage is basically not important b/c it dies so fast currently.

is there a secret to optimize boss DPS (while still going up)?

I checked logs and basically 190k dps on tindral is the cap w/ BiS trinkets and leggo. Are there secrets to getting high boss dps besides just sending CDs on pull where I get full value?

oblique trail
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I wouldn't recommend macro'ing it in general however

amber arch
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because sometimes reck is on CD so ill be using avatar only that pull

oblique trail
ember apex
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i know but im getting benched b/c my boss DPS is low

opaque bolt
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fury wont be able to increase that much st damage

amber arch
opaque bolt
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its like, negligeable taking exe talents for st purpose

astral path
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It’s crazy it’s about to be week 11 and no signet no Aug no leg

oblique trail
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On our best P3 pull, to 24%, I had 160k boss dps

open prairie
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hunters going st makes a bigger difference

astral path
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What more can I do

past pivot
oblique trail
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Unless you're specifically using your CDs for boss damage, which you wont because there's no point to bring a Fury to begin with for that, you wont get it much higher than that

ember apex
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yeah but our hunter (1) is doing above mid raid boss dps and im literally bottom

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and its not a skil thing but fury is just bad for boss dps

oblique trail
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Play better then idk

opaque bolt
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i would go arms then

amber arch
ember apex
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i have all vers/mastery shit

oblique trail
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Fury isn't there for boss damage

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Or just convince your raid leader that

supple laurel
ember apex
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last time i played arms was mythic kurog and before that mythic sylvanas

deep sable
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when to press legendary at tindral mythic?

ember apex
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im not a good arms player imo

amber arch
opaque bolt
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so its better to set hunters for pure st then

opaque bolt
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and you take care of vines

ember apex
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look at logs but some ppl do it on pull others ~20sec in. it depends on bomb assignments

oblique trail
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You're purposefully desyncing your CDs

supple laurel
oblique trail
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Either send it all or just OF on its own

supple laurel
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just OF is better

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on smaller packs

amber arch
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ya I guess, depends when other DPS use CDs too

oblique trail
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You never want to desync your CDs

supple laurel
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++

open prairie
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i think on our kill it was like

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4 people over 200k

amber arch
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sometimes packs just evaportae or seem to be going down faster than you think

open prairie
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double rogue double hunter

ember apex
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so i was using lorrgs timing for CDs i think its like 51sec, 2:42 etc...

amber arch
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like i pop reck before i see how fast the pack HP is going down

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doesnt happen ofter I agree

open prairie
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but yeah its infinitely better having hunters play st

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than fury is

oblique trail
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It's the swap we did last night

ember apex
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lets say hunter (we have 1) is already full ST

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b/c i need to go back to my RL w/ something i dont want to be benched

open prairie
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idk boss damage for us was also never an issue

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with double rogue and feral too

ember apex
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even warriors who parse well have had low ST boss dps. the ones that are top ranked arent going up. the ones that are going up are doing ~190k dps MAX w/ literal bis

open prairie
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yeah warrior is better for aoe

ember apex
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arent going up = arent doing flare bombs

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right but we dont need aoe from me, b/c they basically need to bench a padder

open prairie
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idk whats your comp even

ember apex
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let me get screenshot from last raid

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sec

meager void
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are you sure this is a real question or just a way to bench you?

ember apex
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well i did get benched for a sub rogue

meager void
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because its nonesensical to ask this from a RL perspective

open prairie
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why you wouldnt have rogues in to begin with is questionable

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ngl

ember apex
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we HAD 3 now 2

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sry for weird crop

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-1 sub rogue on that screenshot

open prairie
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boss should be falling over lol

ember apex
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oh yeah we have 2 hunters i forgot 1 is a trial

open prairie
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whys there one sham icon

ember apex
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enhance

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our warlocks went aff b/c its higher ST also for example

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they used to be demo and they both switched to aff

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roots still die near insta

open prairie
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yeah idk sounds like all your rogues are playing full pad

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no i meant theres a sham icon then theres an enh icon

ember apex
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yeah both enhance

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i understood what u mean

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thats boss dam

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from rogues

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no root damage

open prairie
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uhh yeah your second rogue idk what hes doing

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if hes not playing pad

ember apex
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the 2nd rogue literally boosted that char 2 weeks ago

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he was a frost DK

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and hes already beating me on boss damage

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and i have leggo

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thats the state of fury warrior rn

oblique trail
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If you're not being beat on boss damage by a sub rogue there'd be something seriously wrong

open prairie
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hunters are full aoe it seems

ember apex
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ty. DMed RL to see what he thinks

ember apex
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from RL

open prairie
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idk why they're so low then

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our highest hunter is 210k

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on kill

oblique trail
ember apex
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we're not in execute that's why

jovial coral
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The only other level 70's I have are warriors...

oblique trail
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God has abandoned you

open prairie
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idk how much both hunters getting PI affects it

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tbf

jovial coral
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Well and a dk but bro that isnt any better

oblique trail
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Should've been pink

ember apex
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the difference is ~10% between our prog and ur kill

open prairie
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outlaw is cursed on tindral

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forced downtime due to flying

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our shields break giga early

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if no one's dead

oblique trail
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Yeah our boss damage seems more than fine as well

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If no one is dead, it breaks halfway through the cast roughly

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And we lust on pull so no lust for shield

open prairie
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bugged ww shield dam

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is funny though

oblique trail
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Wouldn't know

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I've seen like 2 WWs this tier

open prairie
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they fixed it like 2 weeks ago

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apparently tierset bonus wasnt consumed

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if you used it vs a shield

oblique trail
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good coding

ember apex
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so hypothetically, if tindral has no roots and no adds and i need to optimze ST boss dps. Do i send CDs on pull assuming i get full avatar uptime on boss?

oblique trail
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Hypothetically you just bench yourself if you do this

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Because you're not there for boss damage

jovial coral
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But me do dmg to boss and boss die

fallen ginkgo
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If you want boss dmg do Arms

open prairie
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like idk how you have too much aoe without demo locks

supple summit
ember apex
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i would do it

supple summit
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Sub will still top boss dam even if they're black powder padding

ember apex
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i DO NOT want to be benched

supple summit
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so look at BP casts

ember apex
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i will do anything to not be benched

supple summit
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and not overall boss dam

open prairie
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we have a prot pally that did 30m to vines

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on kill

ember apex
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i almost went prot on zskarn to do bomb soaks

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like i will drag dn thru glass to NOT get benched

open prairie
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164k is just low for sub tbh

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even if full bp pad

ember apex
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he boosted that rogue, <14 days ago

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and he had 1 vault

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before he was in

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and benched his DK

open prairie
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whos getting PI even

ember apex
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ummmm

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idk

supple summit
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I mean, has your raid even seen 5:50 or 6:40 yet? You must be in the greatest guild of all time if you're having no root dmg issues with no demos and 1 havoc and no one else aoeing

ember apex
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lemme check loggs

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locks are ST, ret is ST, hunters are ST

ember apex
slim pollen
ember apex
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nvm, BM hunter is getting it, afflock only got 2 the entire night

open prairie
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yeah idk our hunters are near the top almost 200k on boss dam

ember apex
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ours die early

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constantly

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and 190k to 210k (ur highest hunter - on a kill pull) is ~10% difference

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not a big diff

supple summit
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have you guys successfully killed the 5:50 or 6:40 roots yet

ember apex
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umm lemee check

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let me*(

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i was benched for a sub rogue trial thats why i dont know all the phases

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or like how far prog was pushed

supple summit
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because if you haven't, I think the RL is jumping the gun on assuming yall have enough root dmg with just 1 havoc

open prairie
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yeah 1 havoc and idk how hard your rogues are padding

open prairie
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no demo is kind of a big deal

supple summit
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i'd have to see the log but a 6:03 wipe sounds like a 5:50 nuke to me

ember apex
open prairie
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demos literally erase roots

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weird

supple summit
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yeah thats a 5:50 wipe, hard to tell if its from dps though, because the first couple die from the raw root dmg, including a healer, which then sets off a dispel bomb

ember apex
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Yeah I think someone specifically fucked up like that

open prairie
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main rogue seems behind on crafts

supple summit
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ok so one of your Affs is aoeing

open prairie
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idk what other guy doing besides lack of reps

ember apex
ember apex
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When he first pulled tindral we were already on p3.

open prairie
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aint no way fury should beat sub on boss dam

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ever

oblique trail
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This rogue is a psychopath and you should bench him immediately

ember apex
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Explain?

jovial coral
oblique trail
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Who puts their primary stat gem in the middle of the neck

ember apex
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Me

oblique trail
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It's a first slotter always

ember apex
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I do that too

oblique trail
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Yeah but Carlo I know you're very special indeed

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So I'm not surprised

floral bough
ember apex
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I don't like the 2 secondary Stat gems touching

supple summit
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at least from wipe 29

open prairie
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hes behind 2 crafts though

supple summit
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this isnt true

open prairie
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esp since he didnt make bsl

supple summit
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both hunters on pull 29 are beast cleaving

ember apex
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o.0

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Can u relink if u still have it open?

supple summit
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and in Summary you can see their aoe talents

ember apex
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Ty.

supple summit
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Also at least one Aff is aoeing, which i believe isn't too far behind demo, so that would explain why moving off demo wasn't noticeable

ember apex
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Yeah we Def need some aoe for roots

supple summit
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yeah I just think your RL is being misled about how many people he's pulled off AOE so far

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because it looks like a shit ton still are

ember apex
supple summit
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tbf, he should be looking at this himself if his concern is optimizing boss damage

ember apex
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He has been but he doesn't have a phd in dps like us clueless

supple summit
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yeah so both Affs actually are in aoe build as well

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and your Ret is divine storming lol

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and both rogues are black powdering

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so yeah

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if your RL is looking for boss dam

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i found all of it

ember apex
upbeat plume
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Man that leggo quest line
had to have been one of the most tedious for tedium sake bs I've done in this game in awhile

runic pine
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Imagine being a rogue on tindral and aoe padding on that fight

open prairie
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you can still do over 200k

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full padding

ember apex
open prairie
ember apex
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idk thats what my RL said

open prairie
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sectec doesnt cast powder

ember apex
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idk tbh

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either one of u could be right

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let me check their tierset maybe? idk

restive peak
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If your rogues are not full ST they’re fuckin trolling

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And your RL sounds like one of those typically world 700-1500 ones; always trying to invent some new trick for bosses that already have a blueprint

open prairie
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nah i know what the set does

restive peak
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There’s no secret hidden, Liquid and Echo would’ve figured it out, just run what works

ember apex
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we have high boss HP w/ everyone alive going to thir platform

supple summit
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yeah no thats rogue propaganda

ember apex
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third*

open prairie
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personally your rogues should be bsl

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lol

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idk why hes trying to pad playing thorn

supple summit
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BP can summon clones but Sectec clones dont add BP casts to your logs

restive peak
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Tindral should be going to P3 at 41-45% at the highest

restive peak
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If not swap people off AOE to full ST

ember apex
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we have higher

clever path
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rogue propaganda

ember apex
restive peak
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Because your rogues are padding LMAO

open prairie
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i've had over 200k on boss doing full bp pad

clever path
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im going full st arms

ember apex
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im lowest ST boss damage

clever path
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fuck it

open prairie
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idk why your other rogue is 164k

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thats real low

ember apex
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like i said, that rogue boosted 2 weeks ago

restive peak
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Parsing on prog is a cancer, seriously.

ember apex
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and has had 1 vault

supple summit
warm crag
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how are you doing the worst bossdamage

supple summit
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and pulling the fury off for like 4k more dps is stupid as fuck

warm crag
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there isnt even anything you can change on tindral to push more bossdamage if you play feathers 2

ember apex
warm crag
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okay so your raidlead assigns you the worst possbile assignment and then complains about your damage?

ember apex
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first bomb on platform 2*

clever path
ember apex
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he says rogues need to be group 2

clever path
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private logs solve that

warm crag
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no they dont

open prairie
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rogues can be group 1

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what

clever path
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if u have poeple who don't understand that the boss has to die

warm crag
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we had all rogues in g1 lol

open prairie
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yeah you send all your cds

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then fly up

restive peak
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Rogues should be g1 ALWAYS lol

ebon junco
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Spongie grey parses

restive peak
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I will reiterate my prior message

warm crag
# ebon junco I had feather 2

ye i mean as in changing talents to st is kinda whatever since in my experience you tend to drop AJ during flight anyways so might aswell play the aoe build

clever path
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its not like u lose much anyway

ebon junco
warm crag
restive peak
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We lose almost nothing going to AOE

supple summit
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Carlo your comp for this boss is insane, all your RL has to do is actually enforce his ST changes on all the other specs that actually gain something instead of coming to you, the one spec in the raid where it makes no sense to change anything

restive peak
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So legit swapping your WARRIOR BEFORE SWAPPING ROGUES to ST is legit the dumbest shit ever

ebon junco
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We phased Fyrakk at 41.2% yesterday

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@warm crag

warm crag
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wtf

ember apex
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ok

restive peak
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Fyrakky dies tn I can’t wait, 4 days between raids is cancer

warm crag
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i think our best on prog was like 43%

ebon junco
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There’s a better push timer in p1

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For 1% more boss dam popcorning

warm crag
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no dps stop?

restive peak
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We went to p3 at 42% a few times

ebon junco
warm crag
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crazy good

supple summit
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I do feel for your RL though, its so frustrating but also hilarious that he moved your entire raid off AOE and like literally not a single fucking person did it

warm crag
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i think we try fyrakk reclear this coming week

open prairie
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main rogue also behind on 2 crafts

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considering hes not even playing bsl

ebon junco
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🐸

open prairie
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alas

warm crag
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tindral was such a joke lol

ember apex
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whats BSL

dire badge
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giga good

open prairie
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blue silken lining

dire badge
ember apex
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ah ok

ebon junco
restive peak
dire badge
ember apex
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yeah they've been trying to get more ppl to do their crafts

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i do my stuf

ebon junco
ember apex
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im capped on aspects crests for example

dire badge
open prairie
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like if you gonna pad as sub bsl infinitely better

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also more st if you play it with ashes

atomic pumice
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Which ring do i take? Using 2 crafted. Sims show Thornwoven as sidegrade and seal as downgrade. Want to take one as I dont think I will see again.

lapis turtle
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im not making Carlo swap any talents or even his playstyle, all I did was ask him to press avatar before 51 seconds

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I will double check all the other people's cleaving on roots though

warm crag
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that is trolling

oblique trail
restive peak
warm crag
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unless you have a freedom assigned to break the 0:51 root

supple summit
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avatar is how he gets out of those roots optimally, Odyns is better used on other sets

lapis turtle
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He can have a freedom assigned we have extra

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which is what I told him

warm crag
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why are you trying to reinvent the wheel though

atomic pumice
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Yea, see it on the BiS list but will we get the other gear to go with it? who knows.....

warm crag
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literally every single fury warrior presses avatar at 0:51

lapis turtle
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Not every single warrior does

restive peak
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Seriously, these mid level raid leaders trying to invent cool new strats are dumb as shit

warm crag
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every single warrior that progged the boss at a relevant level

lapis turtle
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I asked him why is it so important and he couldnt answer me

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if he gave me an answer it wouldnt be a discussion

restive peak
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Comes to warr discord; tells various top 50 warriors why they’re wrong while hardstuck

lapis turtle
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I never even said he's wrong

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or that you're wrong

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I just asked why and he couldnt answer

supple summit
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Mas i think once you get your people actually on ST and not just saying their on ST, you'll notice you'll need your two Fury's CDs on the root sets that Lorrgs tells them too

atomic pumice
lapis turtle
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I think thats a fair point about the ST anyway, I do not dispute that

restive peak
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If you’re even his RL which I don’t believe, you need to stop trying to invent strats and steal off the upper guilds, it works for a reason, and their group leaders are smarter than you and us

warm crag
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it lines up his cds for p2, p3, and lets him break the root consistently without outside influence so you have more resources for ppl who actually need it

lapis turtle
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I'm not reinventing anything who said I was doing any of that

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I am not stealing his precious warrior manhood

supple summit
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Im just saying re-feel out those root dmgs once your good on all the other specs

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Fury CDs hit hard on the sets you really want them

lapis turtle
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yeah I can definitely re-feel the root dmg out

supple summit
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if hes lining his stuff up properly then 5:50 and 6:40 will be much easier

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especially since your Havioc wont have shit for 6:40

lapis turtle
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its a valid point and like you said, lots of people told me they were ST but its not the case every time

warm crag
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also why is carlo flying first

lapis turtle
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He is because we just started that way, the rogues said they wanted group 2

eternal sundial
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Or racechange him gnomekeks

warm crag
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most guilds had fury on second feather sets, it lines up their cds exceptionally well

lapis turtle
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he didnt ask me for a specific group when we started prog, only after like 3-4 weeks in

sour frigate
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sucked

warm crag
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that makes sense

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no point to change feather groups this late into prog

lapis turtle
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I didnt want to make every1 change strats since he found out he has better timings several raids in

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yeah I'm not out here to hurt any1 just wanna kill a boss

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and I dont know every spec so I go by what ppl tell me

supple summit
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i gotchu bro

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i too have hunters that fucking lie to me

lapis turtle
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hunters arent people

lapis turtle
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its our guild's motto

warm crag
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idk how exactly cds will work w/ him flying group 1 but he is pretty much optimizing to the fullest by holding avatar until 0:51 and then sending them on cd, aswell as OF

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it will suck in first root set p2 but if he just sends it on cd he shouldnt lose too much value

meager void
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this quickly turned into lemme bring dad into the convo

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and its wierd

ember apex
lapis turtle
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he was giving me the info here second hand and I was uh not happy with it

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but it was a bit misrepresented

warm crag
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i mean he is the phd in dps

lapis turtle
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honorable degree

lapis turtle
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He also asked for varied group timings for his cds, group 1 in some platforms and g2 in others

warm crag
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ok thats delusional lmao

lapis turtle
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which I def didnt wanna do

warm crag
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did you raid since the bomb removal nerf?

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you could technically just not send him up and fix his cds that way

lapis turtle
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We have a ret pally staying down to give out freedoms easier

warm crag
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unless you trust him more than others to hit the bombs

lapis turtle
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at this point I do since he's been doing them

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we can attempt g2 I think though, I will talk to the rogues

warm crag
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keep it as it is

lapis turtle
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cus the rogues told me g2 is way better for them and no1 else says so

meager void
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I mean, I can feel that

warm crag
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you will just extend your prog for little gain

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if what ppl said here is somewhat correct you should have enough dps to kill the boss if your padders stop padding and actually hit the boss

meager void
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Like I had no business soaking Lardorar p2 soaks but there I was. You trust the player.

lapis turtle
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I'll remind them about black powder and I'll check on beast cleave

warm crag
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@oblique trail killed the boss in the first feather group

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its certainly possible

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i mightve pulled that out of my ass he might actually still be progging it

oblique trail
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I am in fact still progging it and I am in fact also in first feather group

warm crag
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oops

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why are your logs so fucking high

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what the fuck!

oblique trail
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But its not an issue I care enough about

supple summit
oblique trail
supple summit
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your hunters will help that a lot

warm crag
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do you lust p2 shield?

eternal sundial
warm crag
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noober

eternal sundial
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LLLLL below philwar log

warm crag
eternal sundial
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Uninstall

warm crag
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hmmge

oblique trail
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Fyrakk killer hack

warm crag
eternal sundial
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Surely spoingus will ascend into 99.9 avg

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In one reclear

warm crag
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spoingus will kill fyrakk with legendary and corrupting rage

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this will certainly fix his parses (cope)

eternal sundial
# warm crag :(

Please do not make fun of my heroic fury logs i was lagging

eternal sundial
warm crag
supple summit
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my raid didnt speedkill fast enough

eternal sundial
supple summit
warm crag
eternal sundial
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HE STILL HASNT

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?????

warm crag
#

religious break man

eternal sundial
#

Bro that shit timed out like 7 days

warm crag
#

i dont even remember the rotation outside of execute

eternal sundial
#

Rend Ms op ww slam cry

warm crag
#

despairge

eternal sundial
#

Very difficult

warm crag
#

where does tc go

clever path
#

nowhere

eternal sundial
#

Rend or no

#

Generally just no

warm crag
#

huh

clever path
#

i dont think ive encountered a situation where rend falls off without getting a sd proc

warm crag
#

i thought its a p good button cause it spends more rage than slam hmmge

eternal sundial
#

@warm crag do you think i can link famed slayer of fyrakk (not anymore) andasimp my augs logs and make him tell them to reroll

clever path
#

with crushing force and barbaric training slam finally does more damage gladge

warm crag
#

i think you can do this

eternal sundial
warm crag
#

do i have to do the ppaww execute rota gamba fortnite gubi hack or can i just play like always

oblique trail
#

Exe exe op ms

#

Repeat

clever path
#

u can 3x exe if u have a shit ton of rage

warm crag
eternal sundial
eternal sundial
oblique trail
warm crag
clever path
#

shouldnt u execute spam until 40 rage then op ms

oblique trail
#

Fuck!!

clever path
#

Yo Handsome Jack is awesome

clever path
#

In comparison to BL3 villains

oblique trail
#

He messaged me in poe and told me to jump off a cliff

warm crag
#

I did so

modest condor
#

and did you jump off a cliff?

oblique trail
#

I did because I was told to

#

I'm a nice guy so I do something if I'm asked to

clever path
#

You can jump off a cliff in PoE ?

warm crag
#

the fires of a thousand suns

chrome plover
#

your absurd defiance ends here hatchling

compact siren
warm crag
#

is life really interesting enough to warrant all this pain?

strange flower
#

yao what craftables we makin btw?

barren dagger
#

Is their a correlation between parses and anime profile picture?

lunar cape
#

Of course woo

sullen dove
#

ye

warm crag
#

Die

lavish grove
#

He dies in second tho

warm crag
#

idk his final phase is a bit silly if you dont have the dps to kill him before he casts the spinny thing

jagged sorrel
#

Is there any specific guide that explains when to use the legendary active?

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I just got it and it feels super awkward to use

warm crag
#

pins discuss it a bit

warm crag
#

just press it outside of avatar windows if the fight allows

fluid cedar
#

And most recent pin elaborates on it a bit due to a recent change hasting the on use

lavish grove
warm crag
#

just penance brand him to death lol

lavish grove
#

Exactly

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Archmage pb

#

He dies instantly

old badger
#

I've gotten my hands on the Axe, when do I use it? Just at the start or is it buffed by Avatar and Reck?

young swan
#

after ur cd's are over generally but during enrage for the extra haste

#

it does not benefit from any of our cd's or the enrage damage bonus

old badger
#

Why not just use it right away? It takes 2~ Seconds to channel then I can go straight into normal rotation?

#

Axe -> Normal stuff

young swan
#

you can if you want to

#

just make sure ur enraged first

old badger
#

Aah right!

elder granite
#

anyone else having trouble with the archon fury M+ page?

ember apex
#

imo archon sucks

#

its a nice UI but it strips too much info imo

#

what u looking for specifically. there's almost for sure a better place eto find it

eternal sundial
#

signet jumpscare gladge

gilded pawn
#

is this bis

#

or is the loss of 200 ilevels too much

clever path
#

gavel offhand

#

bis

unreal onyx
#

considering there are no SL dungeons or raids active rn

#

idk if it's worth

clever path
#

i stg

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everyone has the legendary

#

at this point

frosty scroll
#

do yall overcap rage or ignore bloodbath procs at all during cd poppage or am i in the right still avoiding both as best as i can

unreal onyx
#

BB

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always BB

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why would you ignore it?

frosty scroll
#

idk feel like other warrior in my guild always pops his cds earlier than mine

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which makes me think hes either doing exactly that or im falling behind

unreal onyx
#

what fight

frosty scroll
#

smolderon for example

unreal onyx
#

on smoldy you have to play the opener a bit wonky

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to have the CDs up for intermission again

frosty scroll
#

i know i do that as well

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avatar before of

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and all that jazz

unreal onyx
#

send log maybe

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to check

frosty scroll
#

dont have a log at hand rn, been benched ever since keks

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but he always seemed to pop things such as spear a small margin ahead of mine on pull

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i tend to always avoid overcapping and press bb when its available to me so im wondering whats prompting such a small delay on mine

thorny cove
#

I know this prob asked a million times but are you supposed to use fyr'alath during reck/avatar or outside cds on aoe pulls?

restive peak
#

BB has nothing to do w spear etc

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CDR

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BB only affects OF CDR, and your rotation should always be BT/BB every other GCD always unless not enraged and w enough rage to ramp

nimble basin
frosty scroll
#

ye im aware of that, i meant during cd poppage

nimble basin
restive peak
#

Why would CDs be any diff? BB is your #1 prio, you get MORE BBs out during them

frosty scroll
#

whether yall just send cds and ignore both bbs and rage overcapping for the sake of cd lining up good

restive peak
#

You keep saying cds ling up

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What do you mean

#

Spear/Ava/Reck are not affected by any ability for CDR, they are 1.5m always

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Literally always

nimble basin
#

OF is the affected by BB crits too.

restive peak
#

Yes but that has nothing to do with the 3 main CD abilities

frosty scroll
#

im aware of that, what i said was that the other warrior in my guild always seems to send his cds on pull off a tiny bit earlier than i do

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which prompted the question whether yall ignore bbs or rage on pull

molten relic
#

You reckcharge

#

Of

restive peak
#

So he's just pressing them better than you, you're waiting too long, what would that have to do with BBs?

molten relic
#

3 seconds later avatar

unreal onyx
#

reck-charge-ramp-of

molten relic
#

That’s it

molten relic
restive peak
#

And on smolder specifically you just insta blow everything

#

If that was the main reason for these questions

frosty scroll
#

i do exactly that, thats why im wondering how come he gets his off that tiny bit earlier

#

like literally as soon as i can, im pressin em

unreal onyx
#

he presses them earlier

barren dagger
#

Ah on smoldie i blow my load quick? Don’t wait for OF to settle?

unreal onyx
#

if you do exactly the same then he is just built diff

frosty scroll
#

tbf bros cracked

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might be a laptop diff fr

supple summit
#

literally just look at his cast timeline vs yours

#

and if hes pressing his earlier than hes just...pressing them earlier

#

unless he is in orbit around a black hole then i promise you 1.5mins is the same for him as it is for you

clever path
#

just sit in rings

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with er

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tell ur healers not to freak out

#

its a fury thing

#

i dont think there is a single spec that does that without burning immunities

#

except rogue

eternal sundial
#

I got yelled at by my rl for that

#

He's like stop sitting in it

#

But it's livable

clever path
#

its giga livable

#

u dont need externals

eternal sundial
#

"if you stand in everything livable ill gquit"

#

So i just requested time spiral and leap

clever path
#

u can delay er a little bit

eternal sundial
#

Sad

clever path
#

and it lets u get one more heal from it

eternal sundial
#

Ye it's turbo safe

clever path
#

and then u just sr

#

and u live

eternal sundial
#

He just didnt like how it looks on wipe fest Tool idk

clever path
#

i got no clue what that is

#

idk

covert blaze
#

who cares about that

clever path
#

not standing in rings is trolling ur own dmg

covert blaze
#

lmao

clever path
#

when are u gonna use er

#

on that fight

#

never

#

u have iv for absorbs

eternal sundial
#

He said nah i stopped

clever path
#

bro first few pulls when i was doing it

#

my hpala was sacing me

#

lmao

#

like bro u are gonna die from the dot

#

i wont

eternal sundial
#

But the severe damage grief i did was not asking for 20 sec prepull so my ava was back

#

Xd

#

So i got like 3 seconds of buff on first Avatar

#

Including leap

flat river
#

mbe...

dense elbow
#

Why did you say that, was kinda rude

candid falcon
#

fyr'alath doesn't care about buffs like avatar/recklessness does it?

normal pewter
#

Hey guys, can some1 ELI5 the execute phase rules now

slim coral
#

Why do mages get a better rally on a shorter cd in keys

#

Meanwhile

balmy shore
#

because mage

slim coral
#

Meanwhile we had to be nerfed

dense elbow
#

Magic is the future old man

slim coral
balmy shore
slim coral
#

They don’t even use it right either

#

They just spam barrrier when nothing is going on

fiery harbor
#

new blizzard president is call of duty executive lul

#

i guess it fits since wow has been rereleasing the same game every 2 years just like CoD

#

and so did overwatch i guess

clever path
#

said rally was broken

young swan
#

not thrilled about a cod exec being in charge

dense elbow
#

WoW swapping to a 100euro yearly format too

#

Don't worry

#

It is coming

young swan
#

very frightening

clever path
dense elbow
#

I am sure the extra revenue will be invested back into quality content gladge

young swan
indigo quarry
#

Wow2 cancelled

clever path
#

Its so joever

#

I was celebrating like them underwater Jar Jar Bings people at the end of Phantom Menace when I heard Ybara is gone

#

but now, i think it was too early of a celebration

young swan
#

one thing i will say is at least he played the game

#

hopefully new lady does well by the devs and the players

lunar cape
#

But what does he play?

dense elbow
#

To be fair, we share something in common. Prayer. Cause that is our bread and butter

indigo quarry
#

the new CEO will pump up those subscriber number

unreal onyx
#

hyped for the new ingame store stockups

young swan
unreal onyx
#

wow lootboxes for cosmetics when

clever path
#

even he swapped off of warrior in df

balmy shore
#

nice to see women in more leadership positions but i hope we see good things. i hold my opinion til then

dense elbow
clever path
young swan
#

yeah the worrisome thing that i read was "gm of call of duty"

clever path
#

isntead of mw3 put wow in there

unreal onyx
#

nicki minaj in wow would go crazy

young swan
#

I heard she was in esports division? but idk man

clever path
#

I hope its gonna be good

#

But I find it hard to believe for now, considering Ybarra was playing WoW

#

it wont

#

its microsoft

balmy shore
#

seems like ppl in esports that know her have positive things to say but who knows how that’ll translate to president of blizz

clever path
#

I hold my hopes high

#

So far blizzard has been good right

#

microsoft is like the most annoying ass company ever

unreal onyx
#

what are the positive things they say tho

clever path
dense elbow
#

Please don't try to make wow an esport again sadge

unreal onyx
#

"made the company a lot of money" or "cared about the game"

clever path
#

I work with their machines daily and patching them every month is crazy

#

while linux hosts get patched in like 15 minutes

#

ofc

#

dogshit os

#

dogshit company

young swan
storm rune
clever path
#

dogshit software in general

lunar cape
clever path
#

unfortunately anything that doesnt have to do with gaming/coding is impossible on linux due to poor software support

balmy shore
#

esportseng and mlg guy said

Johanna Faries as the new president of Blizzard.
She is thoughtful, empathetic, and a master diplomat. She will do a great job there.
Good call Microsoft.

clever path
#

alternatives are bad most of the time

balmy shore
#

we’ll see though i think too early to tell

clever path
#

Yeah it was like

#

not 10 minutes

young swan
#

honestly if she does well by the devs and doesnt monetize the shit out of wow like cod then im happy

clever path
#

I just got a sudden shivver

balmy shore
#

yea

unreal onyx
#

microtransaction heaven

molten relic
#

War buffs not announced in her first post

storm rune
#

MLG guy sounds like he brownnosed so hard he got pink eye

molten relic
#

Time to replace her

#

Ngl

unreal onyx
#

I guess that's the play for a quick cash grab

clever path
dense elbow
#

Maybe she will be empathic to our addiction. So pulls the plug on WoW peepoBlush

nimble basin
#

Why yall dooming? Can't be worse than previous management.

unreal onyx
#

bet

balmy shore
#

being apprehensive but i think it’s too quick to make judgements imo

clever path
#

its microsoft

molten relic
#

Hopefully no sexual assault allegations against this one

clever path
#

windows 12 will be a micro transaction os

nimble basin
clever path
#

true

molten relic
#

But also

#

I hope she does well in the role

clever path
#

People on wowhead comments though are all saying joever

#

its impossible to count how many games sony ruined its crazy

molten relic
#

And that blizzy gets better

young swan
#

wow on gamepass soon

restive peak
molten relic
#

I mean

young swan
#

okay liking d4 is an immediate red flag

#

that game sucks

restive peak
#

Lol yup

nimble basin
molten relic
#

I ain’t convinced

restive peak
#

I mean if she got the job cuz she's a woman, it's bad; if she legit deserves it, who gives a fuck what gender

clever path
#

^

unreal onyx
#

real and true

half cargo
#

this is going places

nimble basin
clever path
#

i just hope its not for diversity reasons

hard widget
#

@restive peak

#

TIndral will die

#

Tonight

unreal onyx
lunar cape
unreal onyx
#

we killed it yesterday

hard widget
#

Bro i cba this boss

#

Its so boring

clever path
#

wdym

#

getting to p3

#

then wiping for 20 pulls

unreal onyx
#

the most annoying part on the boss to me is that if 1 person fucks up, insta-wipe

clever path
#

in the first 20 seconds

unreal onyx
#

there is nothing to save

clever path
#

is fun

#

horrible boss

restive peak
#

Fyrakk dies tn for us

clever path
#

leggo copium

hard widget
#

Glgl linc

clever path
#

why isnt leggo guaranteed on mythic

unreal onyx
#

I won't be in our fyrakk prog team sadge

restive peak
#

We prayg for leggo off mythic

unreal onyx
#

but that's understandable

restive peak
#

Nope lol

molten relic
#

How many pulls y’all got

restive peak
#

Broooo I was basically afk this week...trying to get 4 20-22s done quick...why are 20s harder than 28s like wtf bro?

unreal onyx
restive peak
#

Noone even does mechanics? Noone kicks? Incorps runnin wild? WTF IS THIS

molten relic
#

U don’t have cds at right spots

restive peak
#

That's not why

molten relic
#

And mfs don’t do the mechanics

dense elbow
restive peak
#

I just went through 2/3rds a fall

balmy shore
restive peak
#

Only I was on the kick timer

restive peak
#

Cuz noone had kicked 1 time LOL

unreal onyx
balmy shore
#

it’s like 16-18s last season so like imagine that range but for weeklies

#

wcyd

restive peak
#

This is awful

balmy shore
#

ya

unreal onyx
#

18s are the new 20s for me

dense elbow
#

Why do 20s, when 18 does the same trick?

unreal onyx
#

you can meme around and won't die

clever path
#

you can meme around and not die in 25s

#

assuming its not throne

unreal onyx
#

but that takes longer

dense elbow
#

^

unreal onyx
#

I did a 20 AD in 13min last week

restive peak
#

This is wild lol

unreal onyx
#

that was fast wicked

clever path
#

oh u meant for vault

unreal onyx
#

ofc vault

clever path
#

i thought in general

dense elbow
#

Well, we not doing 25s for score

#

Just spam 18s, log off, build a snowman and ski

unreal onyx
#

I could do any 24 and get score

#

but i don't want to, since that ruins my perfect 3000 score

dense elbow
#

3ooo is worth keeping wicked

unreal onyx
#

that#s what im doing

#

18-20s only for the rest of the season

errant steppe
#

we use pot on pull or on 1st int on smold? guessing on 1st int?

balmy shore
#

get that damage amp dam

unreal onyx
#

looking at top 100 it's pretty split between intermission or pull

balmy shore
#

oh yea i guess it is

#

xd

candid falcon
balmy shore
#

think it depends on when ur guild is gonna kill it

#

since second pot cuts it close to the end

errant steppe
#

well our first kill prob isnt gonna be fast

gilded pawn
#

intermission has to be better right

clever path
#

depends on kill timer

balmy shore
#

yea i personally would pot intermission for prog

clever path
#

if u reach the last intermission or not

#

i would pot first int and last int

balmy shore
#

and reclear kinda depends

clever path
#

on prog

balmy shore
#

ya

errant steppe
#

yeah ill do int then

#

thank you

restive peak
#

Bro

#

The shit I am seeing in these low keys is WILD

#

Just had a DH ask us to invis 2nd back BRH

#

So he could pull it onto the boss

#

On sang week

#

After lusting 1st pull

half cargo
#

Let him cook

restive peak
#

I've never seen that boss fail before

#

But he found a way

#

Then said we

#

"are unprepared for 22s"

#

Then left

warm crag
balmy shore
#

creature

restive peak
#

That was WILD BRO

#

LOOOOLLLLL

lapis eagle
#

is there any weak aura for group interupts like shockwave tracker ?

restive peak
#

Right 18s will work, fuckit

balmy shore
#

a popular addon is omnicd if you want to use that

restive peak
#

I'm pretty sure I can 3 man an 18

clever path
#

u can tank an 18

#

as fury

lapis eagle
restive peak
#

omnicd can be set up to do so Vall

lapis eagle
#

😮

balmy shore
#

ya you can add interrupts as another window thingie

void lynx
#

When should I use the legendary on use as a fury warrior? Couldn't find anything in the #268491842637660160 about it

young swan
#

theres a pin about it

#

have to scroll down a bit

#

its the 4th from the top

#

the long and short is that it really doesnt matter much

void lynx
#

ty!

young swan
#

outside of cd's is ideal

sour abyss
#

Since they've allowed the cast to be hasted it fits way better into a reg rotation. Basically if you don't have any furious bloodthirst stacks you're good to pop it at any time on single target. In aoe situations, try to hit a roar or odyns first to get as many fyr'alath dots as possible out.

gilded pawn
#

Or press ww

#

You do not wanna press odyns lol

#

You waste avatar time channeling the leggo

autumn mica
dense elbow
open prairie
#

there are some absolute creatures in 18-20s

dense elbow
#

18s are usually fine, but if you crawl up to a 21-26, things get messy fast

#

You get all the people who just met their wall

#

and are frustrated about it

hardy shuttle
#

This was my last 18 of the week critcake

open prairie
#

18-20: are bad unless

#

you have a guild group

#

doing for vault

dense elbow
#

18s can be soloed, so they can never be bad, no?

gilded pawn
#

both PIs better went on you

open prairie
#

its quite bad

#

only good one i had was

#

3 vodka alts

eternal sundial
#

then the only thing is you not wanting to get smurfed

dense elbow
#

It is always interesting to see how different things are for different people

eternal sundial
#

people just dont do damage

dense elbow
#

HC pugs are fine tho? I create 4 a week for alts. Always just clean runs

open prairie
#

i usually get into only good ones on alts

barren dagger
#

whats that log website again?

open prairie
#

i.e lead is good

young swan
#

lorrgs

dense elbow
#

warcraftlogs

barren dagger
#

ty

hardy shuttle
pastel agate
#

Any thoughts on why suddenly Haste is simming so low?

open prairie
#

people thinking aotc means anything though

dense elbow
eternal sundial
#

you dont run AM

#

crit is fake cuz of tier and BC so that leaves vers and mast

dense elbow
#

Crit is more worthwhile on AoE tho, so not a dead stat

hardy shuttle
#

Crit sort of real in aoe. More odyns

dense elbow
#

More Odyn, more big Odyn... god I wish they buffed OF

hardy shuttle
#

That was my tech to get my warrior invited to keys. Boost a dh, hit 3300 in 2 weeks. Then back to warrior. Ezpz

open prairie
#

i watched a hunter the other day die to tindral beams on hc

#

those things dont even 1shot on hc

pastel agate
#

But why did it suddenly change from haste is top to haste is bottom with no changes from blizzard, im questioning simming lol

dense elbow
#

If you hit harder per hit, than you would hit in the multiple hits. Then hitting harder, is better

hardy shuttle
pastel agate
#

Maybe I’m tripping but haste was top well into the new tier set release.

young swan
#

ur tripping

pastel agate
#

Kk lol

young swan
#

or ur haste was giga low

dense elbow
#

Perhaps for your char, or something? When you were gearing up early

young swan
#

we sit around 28-30% nowadays

hardy shuttle
#

My Sims get me to around 27% unbuffed

pastel agate
#

Anyone else loves being able to go back and fourth between rampage and bloodbath when possible?

Cause you have to get rampage to proc quick for that to happen

#

Have enough rage, etc

dense elbow
#

Sure, it is a fun enough little loop during reck

open prairie
#

happens sometimes not always

#

sometimes you have 14 stacks of signet brand before your second reck

#

sometimes you have 2

fickle totem
#

Is dancing blades the way for most content? I see more people running running it in M+ and on multi target bosses

unreal onyx
#

for dps, yes

#

for qol TR is the play

#

(in aoe)

edgy widget
#

TR is higher DPS in AoE, full stop

#

well, in mass AoE anyway

#

The only reason some people play Dancing Blades in M+ is for the belief that the ST matters more, but it is absolutely not higher DPS

unreal onyx
#

oh mb, I forgor the 10% increased dmg

fickle totem
#

ok, ty!

tulip swallow
#

OF big purpleface

edgy widget
#

depends a little bit on exactly how much AoE vs ST there is, but yeah, it is still a direct damage increase

restive peak
#

TR is QOL and AOE purely, honestly I'm starting to use it on higher fort weeks in EB/TOTT/BRH

#

But DB otherwise

fallow lotus
#

has anyone actually ever seen might of the ocean trinket? been spamming dungeon for 2 weeks now, not sure it actually exists

edgy widget
#

na never heard of it

restive peak
#

I have about 17 oceans, it exists famjam

modest condor
#

nobody has that

restive peak
#

xD

#

I mean uh

tulip swallow
#

fake news trinket

restive peak
#

IT IS FAKE

edgy widget
restive peak
#

Ain't got stripes cuz I'm lion son

fallow lotus
#

mans hoarding them