does double str
#fury
sour frigate
runic pine
I wasn’t really talking about combo point boys
tulip swallow
yeah it makes the proc twice as strong
clever path
i mean
runic pine
I was talking about fill the bar boys
clever path
they build and spend
young swan
@clever belfry podcast about everything wrong with warrior perhaps..?
clever path
they have multiple interesting builders and multiple spenders that make the game more interesting
dapper goblet
I dont think garms was even a person in BFA
clever path
fury is just rampage
dapper goblet
didnt see his name until last expansion
clever belfry
<@173741974493462528> podcast about everything wrong with warrior perhaps..?
u can put my voice into elevenlabs and have it say "burn down both specs, start over"
young swan
LMAO
tulip swallow
The only worse builder/spender is ele
clever belfry
I dont think garms was even a person in BFA
that was the joke my guy
young swan
poor xeos..
clever path
The only worse builder/spender is ele
they are in the exact same spot
builder does more tahn spender
significantly more
runic pine
they have multiple interesting builders and multiple spenders that make the game...
Pretty sure outlaw is press in between the eyes when it’s up and dispatch otherwise
Not super “interesting”
clever path
bte in subterfuge
runic pine
Like yeah there’s some nuance to it and it’s a little bit more in depth
clever path
or if vanish>50 dance>12 or something
sour frigate
Pretty sure outlaw is press in between the eyes when it’s up and dispatch otherw...
and 10 other buttons in between
runic pine
But it’s fairly hard rule
dapper goblet
that was the joke my guy
ligma
clever belfry
balls
tidal kindle
Don't think I'm even a person now
clever path
outlaw is infinitely more interesting
runic pine
and 10 other buttons in between
What 10 other buttons?
clever path
gfury
runic pine
Outlaws complexity is knowing when to send something and when to hold essentially
clever path
outlaw is perma sending wdym
runic pine
There’s just a lot of conditionals
runic pine
u never hold
Bte?
clever path
even then
a wa just yells at u
bte has no cd in subterfuge
and u play around subterfuge windows
runic pine
There’s specific times when you don’t send it
runic pine
So then you do hold lol
muted shore
Finally, i can retire from raiding till S4
sour frigate
Finally, i can retire from raiding till S4
gz
clever path
u send vanish/dance/ad on cd
runic pine
Yeah
clever path
the only thing you can dislike about current outlaw is that u play around stealth
clever belfry
the only thing you can dislike about current outlaw is that u play around stealt...
and it being rogue
hate rogue
piss color
runic pine
Don’t get me wrong I think outlaw is great rn
clever belfry
piss n shit
clever path
i love seeing blood craze stack like 4 times and then i get of back
modest condor
buff war nerf rogue
quick mango
were the fated tier sets selected yet?
unreal onyx
finally no, but S2 won the vote
olive wraith
unreal onyx
not cope, that's the current info about it
they didn't announce the official winners yet
tulip swallow
#stopthecount
runic pine
S3 should win
But S3 bad mmmmkay
unreal onyx
no
dapper goblet
its better in raid how exactly
runic pine
Tier needed to buff OF by 50% for the talent to be playable
I mean it’s very playable rn
dapper goblet
olive wraith
Surely they’ll just give us s3 with an aoe buff
runic pine
its better in raid how exactly
Current build has better single target and less punishing for loss of uptime
runic pine
Better single target still bottom of the pack boss dam <:sadge:82020236335985463...
Wat???
thick elbow
mirror vs spiked counterweight any opinions. they sim close but the 3 min cd doesnt line up on mirror well
runic pine
Bruh you’re high lmao
olive wraith
mirror vs spiked counterweight any opinions. they sim close but the 3 min cd doe...
Both are meh tbh
I’d personally go counter weight cause it’s passive probably
thick elbow
yea just got back last week not drowning in options right now
dapper goblet
"higher skill cap" *procs UF more*
nice 500 dps variance grom jr
young swan
10000 iterations
dapper goblet
nice 500 dps variance grom jr
runic pine
Better single target still bottom of the pack boss dam <:sadge:82020236335985463...
Yeah man really bottom of the pack
olive wraith
Better single target still bottom of the pack boss dam <:sadge:82020236335985463...
Ah yes cause s2 set will be better
dapper goblet
nice 500 dps variance grom jr
unreal onyx
so theres a higher skill cap with s2 is what you're saying
surely being absolutely fucked over by getting targeted with a mechanic which forces downtime that completely ruins your CD timings is a skill issue
unreal onyx
S2 magmorax, neltharion, sark
runic pine
Nelth
dapper goblet
😕
runic pine
Oof
dapper goblet
skill issue
dapper goblet
perhaps dont throw your shit down when hes running to the middle
unreal onyx
getting dispel debuff on sark P2 to have reck/rav up on exactly 1 pack
young swan
give up
unreal onyx
big fun
young swan
wrong
dapper goblet
🥴
clever belfry
zskarn very cool fight for fury
pray u got 2 dk
rav + roar the adds
???
rank 1
or do this
young swan
what in the world
dapper goblet
i'm like 99% sure my guild started the 3 tank strat because of Toph
we looked at guilds and saw you didnt need another dps
clever belfry
toph moment
young swan
LOL
unreal onyx
brew pumping
dapper goblet
yeah but kinda confirmed
fast mural
dapper goblet
had to be unethical to pad on that fight anyway
degen fight..
(s tier to freaks)
clever belfry
clever belfry
2
unreal onyx
noob
clever belfry
i kept 1 on zaqali tho
cause that was pre partition and a certain someone
didnt play fucking anni to pad healing
and greylog dps
clever belfry
didnt prog that tier 🤷♂️
started playing game 2 days before the raid came out
didnt get 99 best perf avg dps, only 98.8
fucking noober honestly
modest condor
legendary asian mdi team
miss tomboy
clever belfry
clever belfry
my warr is 3/9m amir 😎
dapper goblet
abusing second wind for healing logs..
clever belfry
abusing second wind for healing logs..
IP low pickrate
unreal onyx
R9 by now
clever belfry
play SW all bosses
dapper goblet
storm rune
I keep forgetting to use bitter immunity on smoldy, absolutely ruining my healer parses
clever belfry
farmed
dapper goblet
was actually wild thornberrys that people ran SW on rashok over IP
maybe help your raid from the gigis aoe fuck
clever belfry
on prog that is actually so dented ye
u couldnt die that fight as fury unless u got hit by multiple waves in one go
and then u honest to god deserved to die
unreal onyx
real
clever belfry
press IV
indigo quarry
its used on CD 😄
clever belfry
arms L
indigo quarry
cant trust them
warm crag
u couldnt die that fight as fury unless u got hit by multiple waves in one go
corrupting rage
clever belfry
ofc bro
i died to belors on my monk the other day
took avoidable dmg during the dot
and got executed by it
warm crag
have you tried being powerful
clever belfry
😎
warm crag
i know of at least one instance
warm crag
clever belfry
does it include anime pfp users
warm crag
stundenvergehen x39
dapper goblet
7
clever belfry
7
young swan
7
indigo quarry
7
dire badge
7
flat sapphire
anyone know how to move this shit
clever belfry
should be able to move that via elvui mover
flat sapphire
whats it called in there cause when I press the mover thing
it doesnt appear
like its just not there
clever belfry
unlagi
gleaming siren
play SW all bosses
Especially Smolderon
clever belfry
Especially Smolderon
warlock infiltrator
shoot him right now
tepid lily
I was saving it for the weekly
gleaming siren
warlock infiltrator
shoot him right now
?? What if I'm seriously considering the Warrior reroll
clever belfry
?? What if I'm seriously considering the Warrior reroll
Acquire aid
clever path
if you ever die to phial..
i died a few times to power crystal from dos
desert cloud
?? What if I'm seriously considering the Warrior reroll
U need medical attention
worldly shard
How does your inventory look
Around 30+ of maw assault boxes
And 60ish mounts that i havent redeemed yet
8 fel-eggs and then random bullshit thats related to mounts
In bank, and my inventory is empty
Only hearthstone,m+ key, 3 org cloaks, 3trinkets to swap to, shield and gholak 1hander.
warm crag
?? What if I'm seriously considering the Warrior reroll
i need the buddy..
indigo quarry
i need the buddy..
i can be your friend
warm crag
oly moly
restive peak
I’m moving to EU and becoming a turtle let’s go
Just sold my wife and the cat, we’re ready
warm crag
bet
restive peak
wet notch
What runs do you guys generally use? Hissing or buzzing?
sand crest
depends on your gear but generally hissing is better
you can sim both to see whats better for you
wet notch
roger tyvm ❤️
clever belfry
I’m moving to EU and becoming a turtle let’s go
can play from NA
just need a 32h job @ east coast or work nightshift
upbeat plume
anyone know where the npc to the proving grounds is in dalaran?
restive peak
can play from NA
just need a 32h job @ east coast *or* work nightshift
NGL I would love to raid during the day lmao
Sometimes the 1230 finish is zzzzzzz
wanton mirage
I wish blizz remove the punishment in key level when not timed. Everyone would have be playing way more games.
sullen dove
ngl i dont think there'd be too much issue with like... getting a second chance on every key assuming you finish a key thats over time
tho theres def some detriments with that like forcing yourself to overtime a key just to have another chance would feel semi cringe
but i imagine better than the alternative at least of having to rng roll the same key
so like if your keys obv over time and everyone just leaves then it goes down a level, but if you complete the over time key you get the same key and 1 more chance at timing
then if over time again w/e rip bozo
prolly cant just have it never drop tho for overtiming or you spend an entire day doing 1 key
wanton mirage
did a EB 25 pug, 1st pull, everyone cool except healer dying mid-battle but did not wipe and killed the pack. DH start flaming mage for not using CC and mage left.
sullen dove
tbh yea no real way to prevent that ever i think if anything just needs to prolly somewhat be slightly harder restrictions on ppl that just leave like that
or like mage couldve just ignored the dh
that above system would only rly apply to/benefit teams of ppl that push big high not rly pugs or anything
past pivot
Dh should have been penalized not the mage imo. That's the problem with that. Not always the person who leaves
sullen dove
yea i mean its even more impossible to regulate chat
like maybe the mage did actually miss a cc that wouldve saved healer
not that the dh was incorrect he was just being a dick about it
past pivot
Still no reason to be toxic '
sullen dove
but again idk u just ignore the clown and move on
he doesnt have anything important to say no reason to read what he says at all
past pivot
I dunno. I'd rather not waste even 30 minutes with someone like that.
Much less reward them for that behavior
brittle folio
stats are everywhere this season
some less than 50% mast, 25% + vers, 30 or below haste
foggy urchin
did a EB 25 pug, 1st pull, everyone cool except healer dying mid-battle but did ...
classic
foggy urchin
not that the dh was incorrect he was just being a dick about it
given the +25 context, I think the dh was justified
past pivot
never justified in being a dick
foggy urchin
if you're that kind of player who only looks at details and not at the playground, u deserve it
its not being a dick
its being right with a tone of spice
+25 ain't no noob place and 99% of us here don't go that far
past pivot
Flaming mage is being a dick imo
foggy urchin
c'mon what could he even say?
its not like he went 4chan mode. he probably poked the mage's eyes for being noob
wanton mirage
i means DH could have word it politely. or Mage could have not take it too serious and move on. idk i just want my key to get not punished by that
slim coral
like maybe the mage did actually miss a cc that wouldve saved healer
Mages suck
dreamy wolf
A friend of mine is playing a Fury Warrior and is asking whether he should use Bloodthirst as often as possible or if he only needs to use Bloodbath.
foggy urchin
but all I'm saying is that 1. dh is justified to be upset on a nooby mistake that could compromise the key
slim coral
Most don’t know how to use their utility at all
foggy urchin
Most don’t know how to use their utility at all
^
besides
1 mistake leads to multiple, often
oops here, oops there and rip key
if anything I'd say DH saved ur time lol
sullen dove
A friend of mine is playing a Fury Warrior and is asking whether he should use B...
still hit bt often, usually every other global unless you have other cds up and running and shit
like typical cadence ramp > bb > some filler exe/slam/ww > bt > another filler if u cant ramp > bt > ramp
thatd happen when you dont have reck and get rage slowly, but during cds yeah generally back to back ramp bb ramp
stuck bison
nice to have greater ember again. i embraced all of them
past pivot
nice to have greater ember again. i embraced all of them <:sadge:820202363359854...
The best part is when you get the ember at the same time the leggo quest drops and you realize that they were indeed a participation trophy
vivid tusk
@zealous parrot
crimson bay
is it a good idea to use reck before the legendary use or no?
eternal sundial
think about the benefit
polar venture
is SMF viable compared to TG?
storm rune
nah
fleet sorrel
north edge
SMF needs to be abolished
shit is just beyond useless AND costs talent points
If anything smf should be the build that does more damage in exchange for less survivabilty due to lower Stam, but like it’s objectively worse damage and survivality
past pivot
It should be a cosmetic glyph
cloud shale
does every enchanted/inscryptor create legendary axe items? or do they need to be max skill?
past pivot
Any with 100 skill iirc. You teach them recipe for 30 minutes
violet condor
SMF needs to be abolished
whats SMF
past pivot
They have to be in party when you teach them recipe then you put order in
olive wraith
Sad man funk
fleet epoch
muted shore
I wonder...
Will Fyralath remain viable in S4...
frank dawn
To maintain the experience of this tier you’ll continue to receive greater embers to increase the drop rate of the upgrade item every 3 weeks it rotates in
The feedback has been very positive about this and they will want to continue
zealous parrot
<@152600518869516289>
Me when sense
frank dawn
I was being sarcastic, but there will probably be some kind of upgrade item
keen kindle
oh lol sorry
muted shore
I was being sarcastic, but there will *probably* be some kind of upgrade item
ohh
i thought you heard something about it already
maybe i missed any thread about it
because i wanna keep axe relevant for at least some more time
and Invokers lost their weapon this season
fallen pivot
Crab or Rezan's in M+?
muted shore
oohhh
modest condor
Crab or Rezan's in M+?
crab
muted shore
makes sense then to retain it yeah
fallen pivot
crab
ty
Figured but wanted to make sure
u.gg shows more people use rezan's but thats prob cause of tyranical
modest condor
probably also more people have rezan since it's good in raid
fallen pivot
Thats fair
I do 14 thrones and dont see a might of the ocean
do 1 AD and get rezan's traded to me
love this game 🙂
unreal onyx
didn't farm it at all, got it in my 4th vault at 489 
(I haven't used it a single time so far)
molten relic
Any with 100 skill iirc. You teach them recipe for 30 minutes
u can craft it yourself
if you swap to that prof and use the item on urself
vague maple
Hey 👋
storm rune
mom?
gilded pawn
slim coral
what does that have to do with anything
modest condor
you think that's bad, look at honolulu
they got world 21 last tier and they're not even guaranteed to get hof now
restive peak
Tindral/Fyrakk was a nightmare
Some guilds just had better pulls, and some had a lot of stupid mental breakdowns, and it's felt very volatile
Like every guild sub 15% can randomly just kill, or continually have 10m wipes for hours. Explains why it's such a mess this tier w rankings
modest condor
honolulu had internal drama and half their raid team left
restive peak
^ that too, a lot of people broke from pre-nerf Tindral
Shit man Imperative broke lol
We were at 1 point like 21st in NA and now we're gonna finish like 45-50 just cuz of several internet issues, and 9-10m pull wipes being super damaging timewise on a 9 hr schedule
open prairie
i just found tindral boring
restive peak
I mean neither of these fights were hard for warrior specifically
I've been super annoyed at times cuz it seems so easy to me, but I have to remember there's a lot of shit I don't touch going on
restive peak
The pinnacle of WoW hell as a DPS
modest condor
reminds me of p2 nzoth
as dps you were just doing nothing and waiting for the healers to get used to the damage pattern
restive peak
Nzoth was a banger, I actually loved that fight
Except the secret phase was super lame
light nova
covert blaze
reminds me of p2 nzoth
What was p2 specifically? Idr, Psychus?
modest condor
the phase where you had the 2 adds that you needed 5 immunes for and every 30 seconds or something you had to stand in formation to drop puddles
keen kindle
Nzoth was a banger, I actually loved that fight
N'Zoth was the worst end boss
I enjoyed the JAILER more
modest condor
jailer wasnt a bad fight tho
covert blaze
the phase where you had the 2 adds that you needed 5 immunes for and every 30 se...
Ah, yeah
I had to meta-immune the debuff on prog
covert blaze
Nzoth was a banger, I actually loved that fight
So true bestie
keen kindle
Wait
other people enjoyed the jailer?
Honestly aside from phase 1 of jailer (which was aids) that was a great fight tbh
clever path
i'm proggin smolderon, are we using avatar second phase 2 as soon as it's up?
oblique trail
You're using Avatar+Spear immediately on pull after getting enraged, and then in the intermissions when you have the damage buff essentially
Because of our CDs being 1:30, you have to delay picking up the orbs, of which Crit has a good video showing where and how you delay them
edgy widget
i'm proggin smolderon, are we using avatar second phase 2 as soon as it's up?
there's a visual, look for the circular runes on the floor as a guide
wanton mirage
at what Ilvl i should be able to do M11s?
modest condor
like 420 or something
restive peak
So true bestie
SO true bestie 
sinful spoke
at what Ilvl i should be able to do M11s?
480
hard widget
modest condor
sinful spoke
yall will iget my 3rd leggo today on my paladin
bronze trench
how do you sim for M+ as fury on raidbots/
sinful spoke
you dont
sudden tusk
you have no idea how terrified i am to run lfr on my pally alt
sinful spoke
just do it
sudden tusk
ive refused to touch him or my dk til i get it
sudden tusk
i would actually deep end if they got it
sudden tusk
why do you say that?
the sheer amount of variables make simming M+ pointless
bronze trench
the sheer amount of variables make simming M+ pointless
cant you just sim patchwerk with multiple targets and shorter fight duration?
or light movement 5 target 2m or something?
clever path
that doesnt really describe a dungeon
sudden tusk
you can sim 5boss if you want, but the realistic answer is that it just prefers crit a little more
clever path
generally
sudden tusk
in aoe situations becuase of roar
clever path
run st and just swap trinkets
bronze trench
so do you just sim 1boss 5m?
clever path
yes and swap trinkets
sudden tusk
i generally just sim ST
bronze trench
also @clever path you said warr rework 10.25
sudden tusk
the only thing i would change is your trinkets
sudden tusk
and the only trinket being might of the ocean and augery at all times during M+
there is a case for high M+ to run brand on tyran
but realisically its those two
bronze trench
yea i got myth ocean
sudden tusk
i think noxiv has been running the vers trinket as well since vers effects the legendary
bronze trench
using ocean + butcher block
sudden tusk
but i dont have it to test sims yet so i cant say
augery, or i think the stat+vers one from brh is better
clever path
i think noxiv has been running the vers trinket as well since vers effects the l...
ember is just a good trinket
vers stat stick is always good
and the interrupt passive is nice in pugs
sudden tusk
i just want my fucking legendary
clever path
same
sudden tusk
where the fuck is it blizzard
clever path
surely next week
sullen dove
bronze trench
surely next week
cope
sudden tusk
why cant i farm 25s for lesser chaces
im about to kill fyrakk without this piece of shit weapon
bronze trench
telling me to use those now
bronze trench
over 489 Ocean, and 476 butcher block
clever path
yes and u just swap them
covert blaze
then myself
post Steve Harvey meme
bronze trench
oh right, my b. 5m
clever path
for might / butchers
sudden tusk
covert blaze
bronze trench
i thought rezans was good in M+
clever path
more of an arms trinket
bronze trench
fair
covert blaze
ive refused to touch him or my dk til i get it
Lmao I ditched my pally for the same reason, picked it up again this reset
storm rune
Does anyone have a link or a rundown to how to cheese the elite farm portion of the lego quest?
covert blaze
Does anyone have a link or a rundown to how to cheese the elite farm portion of ...
The 50 rares?
Or 50 currency from rares rather
storm rune
yeah the 50 Taut Tethercoil
covert blaze
You can do emerald frenzies. Tether the rare plant rare in the middle of it. It spawns after killing enough mobs
You can respawn it like 3 times per frenzy
storm rune
Alright thanks I'll look into the event, I don't remember anything from that event, probably did it once the first week
But won't turn down a free 3-9 drops
summer quail
the rare that's in cave respawns pretty fast as well
trail sonnet
Yo question on M Tindrall, if I Odyns or Avatar out of a root will it spawn a tree?
modest condor
yes
trail sonnet
If so, do you guys just hold your CDs until youre broke out if theyre up
modest condor
it's the only way you can do damage to the roots
vivid peak
Is there an easy way or custom apl that can sim different crafted stats? Or just top gear/gear compare
oblique trail
Top gear for recrafts, gear compare if you don't have the items
vivid peak
Appreciate it. Gems are a pain in the ass tho
covert blaze
Appreciate it. Gems are a pain in the ass tho
You can add the crafted items to the string
vivid peak
You can add the crafted items to the string
May you explain how I do that or where to look?
covert blaze
May you explain how I do that or where to look?
look for the item's simc string code on wowhead
there is a links button and there you can find its string
you need to add some bonud ids i think to use the options for ilvl and missives
sinful spoke
Yo question on M Tindrall, if I Odyns or Avatar out of a root will it spawn a tr...
yes
and no dont hold
just do it
trees die so fast anyways
pad to ur hearts content
paper ivy
just simed lego
its just 5% damage increase in st
at this point if it doesnt drop next week, imma play sth else till next season
sudden tusk
tbh id rather had no lego. class buffed and smolderon 2h was our special wep and it just had a dot effect on it
would have been 10x better
silk wharf
It should have just been a lesser version that you could start doing the quests on that took an item from each difficulty kill of Fyrakk to upgrade it to that level.
olive wraith
Or just a 2h gholak
burnt stone
smolderon ranked 2nd
severe beacon
ember is just a good trinket
Should I pick up the myth Ember of Nullification trinket from my vault for M+? I don't think I have good trinkets for M+. Carrying around Branch and Cata only
south kayak
smolderon ranked 2nd <:xan:1094127979703062558>
shouldn't 2nd rank be 100
summer quail
ofc not, rank 1 is 100
south kayak
ofc not, rank 1 is 100
then why does his arms show as 8
summer quail
coz it's not rank 1 anymore
south kayak
sadgers
twin glacier
It used to be a rank 1. That’s why he has a 100. I am not sure when logs get locked in. But u might do a rank 1 parse. 5minutes later someone does more than u. You only end up with a 99 then
rich palm
Must say, I find the leggo a bit underwhelming after all we had to do to get it.
eternal sundial
does big fat fuckin dam
fleet sorrel
slim coral
Save fury
spark tree
War Within rework. Soon
oak bear
grizzled fiber
smolderon ranked 2nd <:xan:1094127979703062558>
Gratz Sir (=
teal sable
Is is true that you should jump in WW
ornate gust
smolderon ranked 2nd <:xan:1094127979703062558>
How could you do that dps? I keep doing 260k only.. can’t push above that number!
oblique trail
Is is true that you should jump in WW
Not really
It just adds to your radius very slightly but in almost every case it's not needed
iron portal
If you are not jumping or AD AD AD during fight, are you even playing?
fleet cargo
@oblique trail sup big warr
oblique trail
hello
sour frigate
How could you do that dps? I keep doing 260k only.. can’t push above that number...
manage cds and pots to intermission maybe?
oblique trail
Do furys use two shadowflame or 1 wrist 1 of them ?
Generally shadowflame + allied wrists
Some use allied wrists + lariat in keys instead, but both setups work
fleet cargo
okies
burnt stone
How could you do that dps? I keep doing 260k only.. can’t push above that number...
Legendary Weapon
fleet cargo
Legendary Weapon
Did u collected all orbs also ??
Bcoz afaik its also important and affects ur dpa
Dps*
burnt stone
There is a method on Critcake YouTube to adjust the orb to match the avatar.
fleet cargo
Hmm
gleaming coral
tbh id rather had no lego. class buffed and smolderon 2h was our special wep and...
Big true. I play 3.2k with 2x 483 weaps and no raid trinkets. At this point it feels like an extra affix undergearing myself
red yew
errant vessel
Yep i parsed 99 on echo and it became 98
parsed 100 on mythic larodar and some dude took it from me with 5% extra proc dmg >:(
fleet cargo
for what content?
for mplus mostly
fossil hatch
for mplus mostly
i would not play sf, when u only raid heroic and mostly play m+, sure u can craft lariat but mastery embelish outsimmed lariat for me on every scenario at 60% uptime and i have 70-80% uptime almost every key
fleet cargo
i would not play sf, when u only raid heroic and mostly play m+, sure u can craf...
hmm
why mastery tho
and why so high uptime
how do u get that
fossil hatch
well mastery is a good stat 😄 uptime prob comes from good sustain heal, u can almost everytime back to heal above 90% with one impending, the uptime is usually lower on my 486 windwalker monk where its good aswell
embelish is called blue silken lining
fleet cargo
ok ty for info
red dirge
Is might of the ocean more solid then augery/brand?
glad coyote
timed a 25 eb and a 26 way this week feel proud
muted shore
How does leggy axe change anything in fury rotation? when to use it
sour frigate
check pined messages
muted shore
oh right keep forgetting that ><
wet notch
How come the top parser is using raging blow on gnarlroot?
oblique trail
Because Loboz is just going for max pad
wet notch
oh okay so i don't need to really worry about this build then. FIrst time really trying to parse properly - padding
tyvm
acoustic furnace
Is might of the ocean more solid then augery/brand?
Might is BiS for M+
wet notch
i am in fear
same lol
glad coyote
i need like a 25 or 26 rise this week to break 3.3k io
clever belfry
Because Loboz is just going for max pad
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
hearty surge
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
modest condor
loboz build
wild mural
loboz build
brittle crow
fair wolf
When should I use fyralath in Smolderon fight? Pull? Interphases?
mossy fox
loboz build?
muted shore
loboz build!
warm crag
When should I use fyralath in Smolderon fight? Pull? Interphases?
if you drop your balls on the second ring you probably wanna use it when you grab the balls before your cds arrive
oblique trail
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
loboz build
loboz
iron shell
for fury think my haste is a bit high and mastery a bit low?
warm crag
sim yourself immediately
iron shell
did one on raidbot. 136k dps
warm crag
okay so ask the robot what gear to use instead of asking vague stat related questions
iron shell
sorry i dont take this game that serious and post things with humor sometimes. and the purpuse of this discord it to do what? refer ppl to a sim robot? nice
limber garden
did one on raidbot. 136k dps
that sounds really low, your ilvl is probably really low, so you should just focus equipping the biggest ilvl pieces. thats most likely the highest dps upgrade for you
iron shell
465 ilvl working on that drops arent nice in m+
limber garden
ye 465 is low ilvl
subtle lagoon
sorry i dont take this game that serious and post things with humor sometimes. a...
That's what everyone here does, it's the most optimal way to do the highest dps you can theoretically do. Anything else is just guess work and not very viable usually.
fading sky
465 ilvl working on that drops arent nice in m+
Just look through dungeons in gen u want mastery versa
And som haste
sturdy hearth
sorry i dont take this game that serious and post things with humor sometimes. a...
i mean.. If you really want an honest answer, yeah simming yourself is gonna be better than what anyone else tells you
fading sky
Simming is best but if u wanma prio dungeons to farm
Either check wowhead for bis list.
And sim once u hit like475
past pivot
And keep in mind there is no real BIS list. It's ageneral guide not a bible to follow
hearty surge
i mean.. If you really want an honest answer, yeah simming yourself is gonna be ...
That assumes they know what theyre doing
hearty surge
And keep in mind there is no real BIS list. It's ageneral guide not a bible to f...
There is
a highest simming set
but thats also just pure singletarget on a 5 minute timer
doesnt take into account toher factors
fading sky
Yup. I mean i just reckon if hd farms for mastery versa gear in gen and sims once in a while. And crafg rings+neck he should be good
hearty surge
Thats not gonna be the best solution you can have obviously, but it will work for the purpose
yes
fading sky
Ofc not at all
worldly shard
And keep in mind there is no real BIS list. It's ageneral guide not a bible to f...
Tier lists and bis tier lists are 100% accurate
Also always trust stat weights
fading sky
🤣🤣
fossil hatch
People memeing the lord, but he was the one who discovered kyrian simmed wrong whole SL
acoustic furnace
for fury think my haste is a bit high and mastery a bit low?
Your mastery is WAY too low from first glance. Mine is 65% and I'm toeing the line of diminishing returns. But like others said gotta sim to truly know.
low folio
fact is everyone that does sim their characters never has that much haste this season.
low folio
some people over here acting like sims will vastly change the range of stats a person has based on the character.
acoustic furnace
Early season or while you're gearing they will.
low folio
thats a dumb thing to worry about. if hes gonna get geared up than he should aim for the stats a geared up player would want
acoustic furnace
Yes. But you're not guaranteed to get the same gear as someone else. So you sim to see what's best out of the gear that HAS dropped. And yes, your stat weights will vary due to this.
low folio
its jsut wasting your time simming for stats that wont matter once you get more gear and if your not gonna get geared, simming is even more pointless
acoustic furnace
It isn't a waste of time. You squeeze out all of the DPS you can so you perform better and can gear more easily.
low folio
complete waste of time. especially mid season
squeezing out 1 or 2 % more dps so you can replace the stats quickly is pointless
acoustic furnace
Maybe if you play casually but people pushing content need everything they can get.
low folio
your not pushing anything that isnt casual until your geared anyways
low folio
that was start of the season
this was originally about the guy asking for stats while being 465 ilvl mid season
nobody wants to invited a 465 person to a 25
acoustic furnace
All I'm saying is pushing for the best possible performance, even if short term, is ALWAYS beneficial.
low folio
the difference is too minor to be worth the time is what im saying
until you reach a certain point
acoustic furnace
You can run sims in the background while you do content so I'm not really tracking how it's a waste of time.
vivid nebula
Imagine going into a multi-comment argument over some dude asking about his shit gear 
subtle lagoon
This discord is all about being contrarian, let it roll
acoustic furnace
I'm just amazed at someone actually thinking it's a bad thing to make your character stronger.
low folio
its just annoying to watch people that either know or should know the general stat ranges and just choose to be annoying to some random dude that just wanted to know something where the answer could have been said without even needing sims
acoustic furnace
Counter offer: why not just have him Google it
It's more annoying to answer the same question 48 times a day because people are unwilling to sim or just look it up themselves.
stoic gust
Its only annoying if youre the only one answering and have answered it 48 times
A day
restive peak
It’s annoying because we have pins that answer everything, and the best answer is to sim because stat weights are fluid.
Also until you’re 485/486 just equip better gear, and if you are beyond that marker the answer is always to sim.
brittle folio
for fury think my haste is a bit high and mastery a bit low?
what item level are you?
iron portal
its just annoying to watch people that either know or should know the general st...
L take
brittle folio
It’s annoying because we have pins that answer everything, and the best answer i...
oh shit lol..been doing all my stats weights off your war XD
cold cape
I'm relatively new to Warrior and I don't know how to best use Champion's Spear, do I use it first before other CDs like OF and Avatar?
brittle folio
I'm relatively new to Warrior and I don't know how to best use Champion's Spear,...
I'd would blow my CDs first then throw spear, that way i get the most out of it
the spear is like 6 seconds
acoustic furnace
I'm relatively new to Warrior and I don't know how to best use Champion's Spear,...
Wreck - Charge - Rampage - OF - Spear - Avatar - Rotation
unreal onyx
wreck?
cold cape
Does the OF from Avatar hit as hard as regular OF?
I was just wondering if we ever Avatar first, wait for OF bleed, then use regular OF
stoic gust
I'm relatively new to Warrior and I don't know how to best use Champion's Spear,...
Make sure you have a macro that places the spear at your feet to save a second for your cooldowns. Really helps
cold cape
I do that, I use [@self]
restive peak
oh shit lol..been doing all my stats weights off your war XD
I mean you’re safe if serious cuz I’m semi close to BIS besides leggo lmao
cold cape
But why don't we Avatar first, wait for OF bleeds to run out, then use regular OF because it would be buffed with Avatar?
My ST is severely lacking
stoic gust
👌 then yes id use avatar and reck with trinkets, drop the spear and odyns fury
stoic gust
Cooldown reduction
brittle folio
#showtooltip
/cast [@player] Champion's Spear
cold cape
Oh yeah it's [@player]
stoic gust
Assuming you have a decent amount of crit for the 4 piece
stoic gust
Otherwise your odyns fury will be the main source of CDR
restive peak
So you charge>reck>ramp>OF>avatar 4s later to maintain avatar
You use spear or roar after the ramp>OF
brittle folio
26% is good, you could also drop it and use phial of corrupting; if you need stats else where
clever path
do u get enough rage with charge-reck
stoic gust
True
clever path
i always reck charge
brittle folio
reck and charge same for me
restive peak
You will 90% of the time, sometimes you have to BT then ramp
clever path
idk i reck charge
restive peak
But it’s mostly gonna give you insta rampage
stoic gust
Its nice but depending on the fight u wont, unless its for opener.
restive peak
You should never worry about enrage except opener
We have 95+% enrage uptime, we’re overloaded with rage this tier
brittle folio
feel like i cant g et off enough rampages most of the time
restive peak
If you’re properly rotating BT every other GCD you will never drop enrage
clever path
yep
restive peak
BT is prio button, not rampage
cold cape
Is there a WA to track enrage/reckless abandon?
restive peak
BT every 2nd GCD always except if you have OF tier buff, never waste a buffed BB on BT unless you literally have no button to press (this happens once every 15m of active combat)
I just use luxthos, tracks everything
stoic gust
Reckless abandon will just be your bloodthirst changing
brittle folio
you can also modifry Afenar to ping you for buffs and CD's
acoustic furnace
reck and charge same for me
Bro do you raid with pantheon? I remember a dude named crix getting mad bc he was more geared than me but his bleeds were doing less damage than mine.
brittle folio
LOL yep
restive peak
If you ever find yourself NOT pressing BT every other GCD, you’re doing it wrong
brittle folio
i couldnt figure it out
acoustic furnace
Haha small world
cold cape
@restive peak I use https://wago.io/Jg1ZzjKIj but I would like to track when reck procs
brittle folio
was like 16% at the time
acoustic furnace
Imma make ya sad
brittle folio
now im sitting pretty at 26-31
restive peak
<@301095302977290241> I use https://wago.io/Jg1ZzjKIj but I would like to track ...
Luxthos.com get the warrior WA bruh
acoustic furnace
Mine is 17% but I do need a receaft on something
brittle folio
i dont have my lengandary yet =[
cold cape
restive peak
Reck lights up and shows the 4s when it procs
He has a website yeah
I really need to start streaming
acoustic furnace
i dont have my lengandary yet =[
Same it's tragic. But I got 489 Augury this week so I guess I'm okay with that
brittle folio
I really need to start streaming
do it, been eye balling you and the other top 20 for ages lol
cold cape
@restive peak I found this but does it show enrage and ww stacks? https://wago.io/LuxthosWarriorDragonflight
brittle folio
Same it's tragic. But I got 489 Augury this week so I guess I'm okay with that
same got mine too! but rezans 489 keeps simming higher
restive peak
do it, been eye balling you and the other top 20 for ages lol
It’s just laziness that I don’t lol
restive peak
<@301095302977290241> I found this but does it show enrage and ww stacks? https:...
WW is the 4 bars at the bottom, they’re full and go down as used, enrage is the little one between WW and rage
brittle folio
i have 483 signet as well
acoustic furnace
same got mine too! but rezans 489 keeps simming higher
Pretty sure rezan and brand are better for single target but Augury beats rezan in any fight with multiple targets
AKA most fights this raid tier
restive peak
I still have 483 augury and signet and no leggo will be CE Monday bois. Spain without the s
brittle folio
hmmm ill try rezans next time
been trying to beat my smold parse on heroic at 232k, but barely beat it at 234k lol
also pugging tho..
restive peak
Heroic parses are fucked
atomic pumice
Apologies if missed, anyone have the BiS fury gear sim?
restive peak
Because a lot of us in the top 50 go in with 10-12 and blast bosses in 2m
It fucks up the damage numbers because kill times are a huge factor
brittle folio
Because a lot of us in the top 50 go in with 10-12 and blast bosses in 2m
ooooh is that why my gnarlroot on heroic at 240k dropped to like a 90...
restive peak
Yep lol
upbeat sentinel
Heroic parses are fucked
800,000 carry runs of a fury war getting to feast on 30 people of add HP
brittle folio
big sad
acoustic furnace
My 97 on fyrakk is now a 95 and I'm big sad
brittle folio
so i dont entirely suck, its just my surroundings
restive peak
Heroic is a gong show and always will be
You basically can only trust mythic parses and in upper gear
Anything else is just rng and group size
brittle folio
i had to step down for my mythic spot this season because of school =[
restive peak
Like if you go kill mythic nymue rn at 484 ilvl
You could be perfect and likely still parse a 75
brittle folio
Like if you go kill mythic nymue rn at 484 ilvl
errant steppe
Lariat with full gems should be better than shadowflame patch right?
restive peak
Because 496 augurys and 489 brands and leggos are so prevalent
brittle folio
Lariat with full gems should be better than shadowflame patch right?
dont mess with me...i just crafted a hour glass for a stat stick...
upbeat sentinel
do not think I've seen a single fury war with Lariat
brittle folio
also the Vers this season is throwing me off
errant steppe
me neither, im just too bored to look it up
restive peak
Lariat is meh, we are overloaded with stats
clever path
its good in m+
restive peak
So the stat proc barely matters
clever path
but in st its meh
brittle folio
im like obsessing over at least 20% with out tepid
restive peak
Also that AOE bump requires a big enough pack that it procs during in CDs
So if any rng goes wrong, it’s worse anyway
brittle folio
every time i see one of yall with like 23% vers i panic like im screwed up
upbeat sentinel
you must double down on doing as much fire damage as humanly possible
Brand+Augur+Lege+2x shadowflame patch
restive peak
I have like 30% vers w flask now
upbeat sentinel
burn the world
brittle folio
I have like 30% vers w flask now
this is for keys?
restive peak
I use Vers flask always
brittle folio
ive done to many sims
errant steppe
you must double down on doing as much fire damage as humanly possible
legendary is an urban legend im convinced
upbeat sentinel
legendary is an urban legend im convinced
my pain is immeasurable
nocturne dragon
I use Vers flask always
more reliable compared to the crit flask?
restive peak
The only thing I swap for m+ is trinkets
errant steppe
i have 7 kills and idk how many fking orbs and not 1 person in my guild has it
we 6/9M btw
restive peak
Safer, won’t randomly kill you, consistent dmg
errant steppe
we do content
upbeat sentinel
Also tbf Brand and Augur are urban legends for me too
errant steppe
i got augury this week finaly
restive peak
Brother we are top 50 US with 7/9 reclear every week til Tindral died and we don’t have a single leggo
This game is dogshit
brittle folio
all the warriors and both dk tanks have it in my guild...worst part...i sim 24 points higher than the first warrior who got it....and 18 than the second...
nocturne dragon
so gg accel
brittle folio
even after they got it..
restive peak
RNG leggos are garbage, especially when balanced around them
upbeat sentinel
Your class gets a legendary...
errant steppe
And guess what... we took a social on our hc kill last week..... he fucking got it on his 1st kill
upbeat sentinel
But you're balanced around it
errant steppe
i hate this game
upbeat sentinel
about to go run it on LFR on my shit paladin and watch that char get it instantly
restive peak
We bring people from xD and DMG and Vesper and none of us have it and we all collectively rage every Tuesday
dense elbow
Do it
worldly shard
RNG leggos are garbage, especially when balanced around them
Give us 99parse leggo
99 average and u get leggo
errant steppe
last week a social posted a screenshot on our disc for a pug he went to... 5 legos dropped
im like
wtf
how is this even real
dense elbow
I saw one lego drop, in the 4 runs I did, that had 20-25 legendary farmers each 
upbeat sentinel
last week a social posted a screenshot on our disc for a pug he went to... 5 leg...
we've only ever seen 2 drop, both on same week
unreal onyx
we've cleared since week 1 and we have 5 leggos overall so far
errant steppe
Thats 4 more than us 😭
dense elbow
But but but, it could not drop w1
upbeat sentinel
next week or i commit an act of terrorism
brittle folio
so simms aside, what are we thinking is to low for mastery, if im trying to stack at min 25% vers
dense elbow
Why do you want it to drop now? Wouldn't you rather have the pity timer go over into S4?
unreal onyx
But but but, it could not drop w1
well, cleared since week 1 also implies clearing it since leggo got unlocked
restive peak
so simms aside, what are we thinking is to low for mastery, if im trying to stac...
Seems like 50-52 natty without wep is where my sims start preferring mastery again
upbeat sentinel
Why do you want it to drop now? Wouldn't you rather have the pity timer go over ...
99% chance we can just upgrade it
brittle folio
Seems like 50-52 natty without wep is where my sims start preferring mastery aga...
so 55% is a good range then, that seems right
dense elbow
Not without a drop
restive peak
so 55% is a good range then, that seems right
Yep I’m 55 w both wep runes
unreal onyx
im 52% mast, 28% vers
upbeat sentinel
Not without a drop <:xan:1094127979703062558>
i will load up in a pickup with a machinegun mounted to the back of it if I do not get the lege next week
unreal onyx
with mast runes no flask
acoustic furnace
Im 65% master and 26% vers (w tepid vers)
My Crit is in the trenches
Gotta receaft my cloak or something
dense elbow
Big crit hit tho
brittle folio
Im 65% master and 26% vers (w tepid vers)
hows it feel? once my haste drops below 33% it feels clunky
haste is my other obsession
upbeat sentinel
my haste is 33% rn and it feels fine, cant imagine 30 would feel dif
brittle folio
my haste is 33% rn and it feels fine, cant imagine 30 would feel dif
i have MAD adhd...and some other things..i notice crazy shit
acoustic furnace
hows it feel? once my haste drops below 33% it feels clunky
I'm sitting at 24% haste and it feels fine. I haven't had any issues with dead GCDs. But I won't lie I'm thinking about dropping some mastery for more haste.
upbeat sentinel
spec does not play at 10% haste
brittle folio
spec does not play at 10% haste
felt this during the beginning of the xpac lol
upbeat sentinel
I don't think having a dead GCD 1% of the time on an insanely high APM spec is a problem tho
rest ya fingers
acoustic furnace
Nah gotta pump
acoustic furnace
Eh
But honestly running double Wafting completely counteracts low haste so I don't think 30% is even necessary
upbeat sentinel
do high haste double sophic
acoustic furnace
I actually haven't seen a single double sophic warrior. Have seen a few with Sophic/Wafting.
proper star
Bruh my spear macro on me isnt working anymore did they change anything
upbeat sentinel
hello its me the double sophic warrior
acoustic furnace
Bruh my spear macro on me isnt working anymore did they change anything
Name changed
covert blaze
Bruh my spear macro on me isnt working anymore did they change anything
the name of the spell
errant vessel
Bruh my spear macro on me isnt working anymore did they change anything
Spear of Bastion namechange to Champion’s Spear
brittle folio
#showtooltip
/cast [@player] Champion's Spear
errant vessel
Also looks like shit now 
wanton mirage
You are a champion, Harry.
acoustic furnace
hello its me the double sophic warrior
What do you sim at?
unreal onyx
what's the highest possible fury ST sim rn?
upbeat sentinel
What do you sim at?
lemme go sim DS and ST
clever belfry
atleast 69420
upbeat sentinel
and ill let u know
acoustic furnace
lemme go sim DS and ST
Kk. Just curious if recrafting for haste and then running double sophic is worth it. Currently simming at 229k with no Lego.
unreal onyx
that high?
brittle folio
ST?
unreal onyx
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vy6kFgM1qKDS65HTWh2k7g im almost fully gaming
upbeat sentinel
Kk. Just curious if recrafting for haste and then running double sophic is worth...
Dungeon Slice weekly 272k, 201k ST
unreal onyx
and that's 10k still over me
acoustic furnace
Dungeon Slice weekly 272k, 201k ST
Ilvl?
brittle folio
ST for me is like 218k
upbeat sentinel
I have neither signet nor augur, nor rezan
acoustic furnace
Gotcha I prob shouldn't compare our sims then I'm 487 with BiS trinks
upbeat sentinel
pain is immense
modest condor
oof
brittle folio
same
upbeat sentinel
Running Branch-Ember as my genuine highest simming in both single target and AoE
modest condor
branch isnt bad on st and ember isnt bad on aoe tho
proper star
So they just randomly decided to change spears name and visual
upbeat sentinel
So they just randomly decided to change spears name and visual
They got rid of all the covenant shit
clever path
Well it wasn't random
upbeat sentinel
for all classes
clever path
It was planned
proper star
okok
acoustic furnace
How much of a boost is Lego to sims?
unreal onyx
like 12k or so
upbeat sentinel
patchwerk or dungeon slice?
acoustic furnace
like 12k or so
Sheeeeeah. That shit would prob push me up to at least 240k. I need it so bad.
unreal onyx
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2ZDfeBhMjgpF9qHQkpXj4Q
damn, crafted rings are worse?
didn't expect that
young swan
they're 3 ilvl lower
upbeat sentinel
heroic signet L
acoustic furnace
so both of mine are crafted
What stats you run on them? Ive just got Mas/Vers
Bc I too am a double crafted peasant
upbeat sentinel
rings-neck-embellishes all crafted 4 me
brittle folio
crit/haste vers/mast
acoustic furnace
Yeah. I'm gonna drop some mastery for haste. I feel like the quality of life is worth a marginal DPS loss.
dense elbow
Lower haste, gives you more time to adapt your rotation tho. As GCD is longer. That is QoL too 
acoustic furnace
Yeah but 24% just seems so low compared to everyone else
I wanna go FAST and HARD baby
dense elbow
I sit around the same, bump up will come with lego
wanton mirage
my sim is too low even with Leggo. Tell me where i did wrong. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eMcn5e9spwpBbuvo9LCxi4
acoustic furnace
You were supposed to give Lego to me then you'll do 1mil overall
eternal sundial
@young swan trinket check
young swan
@eternal sundial mental stability check
eternal sundial
Week i lost account
No reclear in sight
I will never recieve a 489 belt, 2 sockets in bag so far
@young swan but fr did you rekill dargon yet
Trinket soon
young swan
<@137363315817971712> but fr did you rekill dargon yet
no week break
brittle folio
terrible
modest condor
my sim is too low even with Leggo. Tell me where i did wrong. https://www.raidbo...
legendary is ilvl 496, not 492
eternal sundial
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8VCCFscxHe1qp9uwzESHfs
Wtf are your talents bro