fury

[olive wraith]

I don’t see how randomizing it would change

[upbeat sentinel]

A point value system for different affixes would change it

[olive wraith]

How

[restive peak]

There will ALWAAAAAYSSS be a synergistic meta comp, this one is actually not super fluid and this patch is decent now

[upbeat sentinel]

By making countering certain affixes worth more?

I’m not talking about the random affixes for every key thing

[olive wraith]

Give an example

[restive peak]

He thinks if bursting, for example, was worth 2 more points than storming that priests would automatically be higher rated

[olive wraith]

What’s the top comp rn?

[restive peak]

And it might matter for like 15 points by season end but it’s nothing notable

There isn’t really one, there are 5-6 teams running at the highest level with differences

It’s honestly not bad rn, we are just one of the lower of the options so that sucks

But really, this is a lot better than last season or SL S4 for options

[dire badge]

realize m+ is only weekly loot content and log off once you get it done

all ur troubles melt away

[restive peak]

All tanks are viable and have timed high keys barring maybe BDK being semi gated, the top teams are running mage, Aug, rogue, dh, ret, fury, lock, now SP a bit this week, healer meta is a bit more set

But priest MW resto Druid are all super solid

Shaman and pala healers are probably in the worst spot

[olive wraith]

The thing with certain affixes giving more points is the harder affixes would theoretically give more points. So like the meta will still win out there

[restive peak]

Exactly

[olive wraith]

So I really don’t see the issue there

[restive peak]

But it would encourage you to play each week as opposed to the current week skipping, so it has some merit to it

But no it wouldn’t change the top end

[olive wraith]

The problem I have with the random affix thingy is just more rng into the mix which would feel really bad if you roll a shit combo

[dire badge]

yeah this hypothetical only convolutes the point gain system more than it already is

[restive peak]

The biggest problem M+ has right now is for the people trying to get through 25-27s, some weeks are required weeks off where you just accept you can’t improve and that’s bad

[dire badge]

someone cook something cooler

[restive peak]

Randomizing them would increase play, it has issues as well

[silent burrow]

Hello I am cook

[restive peak]

The first step, imo, is to redesign affixes to not have certain classes unable to interact with them

[olive wraith]

Being back thundering

[silent burrow]

Stop

[final birch]

Thundering

:xdd:

[restive peak]

I liked thundering once it was fixed

[final birch]

Idk whats worse rhundering or bolstering

[restive peak]

Bolstering

[dire badge]

wasn’t thundering the seasonal for s1?

[final birch]

Yes

[restive peak]

Once thundering had a bit less RNG it was kinda cool

[final birch]

Nah it was ass for an affix

Getting some specific mechanic

[dire badge]

alright putting linc in the contraption

[final birch]

• quaking + thundering

[restive peak]

It is exactly what people keep saying they want, punishment that rewards success, but then they did it and people threw a fit

[barren dagger]

Just remove all affixes

[final birch]

It didnt reward

It buffed mobs by 5%

In the end it didnt reward

[restive peak]

You did 15% more@damage if you maximized uptime

[final birch]

It was punishment or lower punishment

[olive wraith]

Better than afflicted

[dire badge]

then ur next key depleted cause you fucked up maximizing uptime

💀

[vagrant dagger]

but all dungeon had more life for it no

[restive peak]

…so you just want an affix that rewards you all key for existing? What a take

[final birch]

Nah

Im too tired to think about affixes in current state but I can tell you thundering was dog

[restive peak]

I mean this just feels like such a circular argument. We want this but not that way cuz now I can fail it but also I don’t want to not have 1 but also it should reward me but also not punish me for failing but also reward me

Like what

[dire badge]

rewards you all key. Forgets encrypted existed and was well liked

[restive peak]

Encrypted was siiiiick but you still had to interact with it properly and then kill an add

So yes I would say encrypted was their best seasonal to date

[dire badge]

so now you’re arguing interaction

[twin glacier]

Encrypted was so liked that u skipped some of the tormentors.

[silent burrow]

Encrypted was dope

[twin glacier]

U never can make everyone happy.

[restive peak]

My argument on that hasn’t changed, I disagree with anything that you do not have to interact with

[twin glacier]

On higher levels the encrypted mobs be came problematic

[restive peak]

If you don’t have to interact with it and it doesn’t require playstyle adjustment it’s pointless

And at that point just let us run it down to +50 I guess

[young swan]

i dont think that was encrypted

pretty sure that was prideful

[restive peak]

But all that will do is lead to a crazy amount of M+ for 2 weeks and then people will quit

Because they’re bored

[silent burrow]

Yeah prideful fucking slapped on high keys

[young swan]

and i wouldn't call prideful a well liked affix

at least at the top end

[dire badge]

you skipped encrypted too

[restive peak]

The problem with affixes is the imbalance in difficulty levels, not that they exist

[olive wraith]

I just don’t get why you make affixes that some classes can’t do

[pearl lagoon]

Prideful was annoying because it always procced every 20%

[restive peak]

This is the other affix issue

[dire badge]

That’s when you had bad effects on dungeon end boss from skipping encrypted guys

[modest condor]

wasnt encrypted sl s3?

[pearl lagoon]

Any messed up pull could cause the prideful to spawn at a bad time

[dire badge]

come on xanthony

[silent burrow]

Was cool when somebody pulled extra on prideful and it fucked your whole route

[dire badge]

yeah

[young swan]

i didnt play much of sl

forgive me

[dire badge]

fair

didn’t miss much

[olive wraith]

Like how many people can’t interact with afflicted

[restive peak]

So basically we hate affixes and want to run the same key with no nuance or adjustment ever required until our eyes bleed? Seems like a huge mistake but ok

[young swan]

i played like 1 month of s1/pre-season

[dire badge]

too much

[olive wraith]

War, dh, rogue

[modest condor]

encrypted was like the freeest seasonal affix

[dire badge]

create Time Machine and fix that

[restive peak]

Yeah afflicted is dogshit

[young swan]

and then a bit of encrypted and a bit of s4

[restive peak]

Sanguine is dogshit

Incorp is dogshit

[olive wraith]

Sanguine at least you can attempt to mitigate its impact

[restive peak]

But the solution is remove THOSE affixes, not ALL affixes lol

You can but also sometimes you can’t cuz of spell queuing

Also it removes limit testing fun like big pulls into bosses etc and that sucks

[young swan]

storming needs to get nuked from orbit purely because its volcanic but infinitely worse to deal with for melee

[dire badge]

the answer always ends up being a shrug and saying make better affixes which blizz keeps declining to do

[olive wraith]

Of all affixes I think incorp and afflicted are the ones that should be taken out

[restive peak]

No one likes sanguine

[final birch]

Storming is such an

Underrated dogshit affix

[restive peak]

Remove incorp/afflicted/bolster/sang

[final birch]

Nobody talks about it

[young swan]

its horrid

[final birch]

But its just holy fuck

[young swan]

its always been horrid

[restive peak]

Storming doesn’t bother me at all idk

[clever path]

die afflicted die

[young swan]

tornado mechanics are not fun

[final birch]

Leaping out

Catching storming mid air

Yep

[restive peak]

WE LOVE TORNADOS XAN THEY GO BRRRRR

[final birch]

Im dead

[olive wraith]

Storming is bs week

[upbeat sentinel]

Wdym I love interacting with Incorporeal while having no long cc

[final birch]

Its not an impactful affix

Its just dogshit

[young swan]

its not like it makes the dungeon unplayable its juts like

[final birch]

Giga

Dogshit

[young swan]

why the fuck is this here

[final birch]

Yep

[upbeat sentinel]

Tornados do suck p bad

[final birch]

It depleted few of my keys and it’s so unbearable

When shit gets depleted

By an affix of this caliber

[upbeat sentinel]

Bolstering is also ass to me but any mechanic that is “killing things is bad” sucks horrendously

[silent burrow]

Miss being able to soak the tornados with bladestorm

[restive peak]

I mean affixes are supposed to deplete the key when you mess up

[final birch]

Yes

Agreed

But storming is just

Too niche

Too shit

That when it happens

Youre like „NO FUCKING WAY BY STORMING”

[young swan]

i just think nados need to be boss only mechanics

raid boss only*

[final birch]

Like in s2 tank got hit by 3 stormings

And reseted first boss in fh

:xdd:

[olive wraith]

Lmao

That’s wild

[final birch]

Its just unexpected

[young swan]

i also just dont understand why you need 2 affixes that perform the same function

[final birch]

I also died few times on move out of circle mechanics in high keys

[young swan]

volcanic and storming are both just movement checks that displace you

why need two

makes no sense

[final birch]

Volcanic is much easier for ranged than storming is for melee

Arguably

Storming is worse for them than volcanic

Sometimes

[olive wraith]

Ya but volcanic is stationary

Storming griefs you all the time

[restive peak]

I like storming so I’ll just stay outta this one 😛

Volcanic is difficult for ranged in the sense of forcing them to cancel casts, we don’t cast; mind you it’s clearly outdated now because they barely fuckin cast anymore anyway lmao

[final birch]

Fair I’ll let you have this one because it would be pointless to argue about subjective stuff

I dont like storming

Volcanic is somewhat noticeable on sp

[autumn mica]

14 days of push soon

2 big weeks in a row

[final birch]

Wasnt it 3

[autumn mica]

Mm don't like raging storming personally i'd call it a ok-ish week

I'd say tyra entangle burst + fort spite volcanic is giga

Especially that fort week. Can't get better then that. Ultimate week of the season

[restive peak]

Yeah I better get fuckin leggo off mythic fyrakk Monday bro

In time for the big giga push weeks

Need to get 3750 so my penis grows, doctors orders

[warm crag]

clueless

[autumn mica]

Yea i'm suprised many of u don't have it yet. That BLP must not be working tbh

[indigo quarry]

what you pushing bud

what you pushing

https://tenor.com/view/gromnak-gunnars-mask-off-rage-world-of-warcraft-gif-22178131

[warm crag]

havent seen a clip in a while

[restive peak]

It sucks bruh

[warm crag]

has gromnak slowed down?

has he become weak?

greatness will return

[restive peak]

Did you see the VOD bruh

[warm crag]

no whats the lore

[restive peak]

Our fuckin blooper made it onto that weekly wow video thing it’s so sad

1.2% post blaze

DH fel rushed into fire with seed

[warm crag]

L mao

[restive peak]

It was dead

Like couldn’t be more dead

[warm crag]

its fine most guilds have a "it shouldve died" pull

[indigo quarry]

throwing with style

[warm crag]

we wouldve killed if a tornado didnt get placed in a way where it instakilled a new corrupted seed shrug

[restive peak]

All 20 alive, vibing, you can hear Skys heart break as it happens in the clip

Yikes

[warm crag]

dw about it

everyone has a stupid wipe like that

[restive peak]

So Monday literally it’s surely dead, we were sub 10% on almost every pull

[warm crag]

sick

link stream and i will watch the first pull and it will be a kill pull

[restive peak]

If we raided more than 10 hrs we’d be done so for our schedule honestly it’s been good

You want tank, WW or healer POV

[clever path]

dogshit mpluser

breeended

unless ur in fkin mdi what r u pushin

[restive peak]

Oh you want equinox stream then

[clever path]

IMA PUSHWEEK

[restive peak]

XD

[warm crag]

warrior pov

[restive peak]

I don’t stream boo 😦 I keep saying I’m gonna set it up

I should this weekend

[warm crag]

perish

[restive peak]

I have a twitch and such, send me settings for OBS

Will have it by Monday for you bb

[clever path]

ooooh

u gonna be 3rd streamer i ever watched

[restive peak]

I honestly have just been lazy, I meant to set it up before the tier started then once I moved and just been a giga lazy fuck

It’s on my weekend to do list

[tiny elbow]

Whats that hate % we are looking to be at?

[wanton mirage]

Hate%? 100 off course

Especially every melee dps specs who are metas

Joke aside, its sim question

[storm rune]

25%

[sly ridge]

frostire legs simming 14k higher than lariat for dungeon slice... is that a trap since highly dependent on tank's brain?

[warm crag]

wouldnt put much thought into aoe sims unless they've been fixed the last time i looked at them

[sinful spoke]

not a trap tbh because of the haste

makes ur dots tick faster

ect

[tidal kindle]

https://www.twitch.tv/kalimataa/clip/SpookyGrotesqueTruffleRedCoat-hXEDJUGXybHNbVL7?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

[restive peak]

Sadness is real bruh

[sullen dove]

i stg augs literally turn off their monitors

every time they breath

idk if they think they know what theyre doing but like 95% of augs will breath at the most horrendous dogshit times

[vapid spade]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/a-look-back-at-protection-warrior-in-dragonflight-and-war-within-wishlist-337353?webhook any one else get a "Page not Found" - Error?

[silver mantle]

swordish confirmed aug hater

[clever path]

did he get gkick?

[sullen dove]

i mean to be fair theres really nothing to like about them

steal a spot in 90% of m+ runs for no reason, which is a nice downgrade from the 100% of runs it was last season

[sinful spoke]

i mean

he did sayt

take a deep breath

so

its his fault

💀

[sullen dove]

he didnt say breath of eons doe

[silver mantle]

What, you don't like a spec that got release mid-patch and completely turning the meta on its head

[slow drift]

Question: I know a few classes are picking up the fyrakk tank trinket for high m+, is it any good as fury on aoe as well?

[modest condor]

you dont pick it for damage, you pick it for the shield to survive things

if you dont need the shield to survive mechanics you dont use it

[slow drift]

gotcha

[clever path]

yeah but its mostly a other dps spec thing

fury lives

[slow drift]

ye was thinking that

[clever path]

unless u are doing 32s

even then u prob live

funny class

[modest condor]

i checked that website last night for fun

i can live almost every mechanic on 31 tyrannical with just def stance and war paint

[clever path]

yep

[modest condor]

exceptions were the charge on 3rd boss brh and the circle on 1st boss throne

[clever path]

people need to use their 3 minutes for that amount of dr

[modest condor]

but nobody does throne tyran 31 anyway

[clever path]

u just press a button and stay enraged

and u have more hp

whats funny

is that

fury builds in 30s

dont even run a lot of defensives

not dropping a point in crushing force for pain and gain for example which would be nice in some keys

or dropping both points for bitter immunity as well as an extra healthstone

we just dont need it

[sullen dove]

pain and gain is so shit 💀

idk why they gotta nerf that from 5% to 3.5

[clever path]

its still a defensive and the only thing holding people back from timing keys is survivability

crushing force is more slam damage

wow

[sullen dove]

slam owns

[silver mantle]

Nah, I'm pretty sure it's the nerfed legendary

[sullen dove]

[gilded pawn]

link site

[modest condor]

https://not-even-close.vercel.app/

[gilded pawn]

dang this is a good site

it doesnt have a way to input armor though

how dogshit is armor

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/JZCwe/99cd76aa21.png

http://puu.sh/JZCwi/f1524d4450.png

[gilded pawn]

ah

[modest condor]

just add your armor DR there if you wanna specifically check for physical damage

[gilded pawn]

so you gotta manually key that shit in

[modest condor]

yeah

[gilded pawn]

only problem is that armor is also affected by K value

so you gotta look that up too

[modest condor]

uh

it should tell you on your character sheet how much DR you get from your armor

[gilded pawn]

right

[modest condor]

i think it's like 34%

for me

[gilded pawn]

but that DR is fake when you walk into a dungeon because of how k value works no?

and then theres differentiators between a level 71 vs 72 mob

[modest condor]

you can select a target and it will tell you how much DR you get from your target

idk how k value works tho

[gilded pawn]

k value sort of subtracts your armor

but not exactly

[modest condor]

physical damage is a bit misleading tho because not everything that's physical is reduced by armor

like i'm pretty sure neither mechanics from the third boss in brh are reduced by armor

[gilded pawn]

yeah armor is dogshit

anyone says plate has an advantage is just coping

[modest condor]

it's still nice every now and then

archers that randomly shoot people, the hunters in throne with their spear throw, the charge on the 2nd boss in brh

[gilded pawn]

once in a while it does something

[modest condor]

lots of specs die if they get targeted by 2 hunters without a defensive, fury doesnt

those invis guys in AD

im not sure if the saurid leaps are reduced by armor

[clever path]

they open with a cast u can spell reflect iirc

the stalkers

on stairs before totem boss

[modest condor]

i was more talking about their fan of knives but that sounds useful as well

[clever path]

i dont take dmg in ad so prob it is reduced by armor idk

until yazma soulrend 💀

ye its reflectable

[modest condor]

soulrend is one of those abilities where you actually need to minmax war paint

[clever path]

yeah i want till the very last second ramp and leap out

sucks u cant sr it

i mean u can

but then u dont have it for wrecking pain

if its on u

[modest condor]

yeah

[clever path]

there is a rule in wow with sr

if its on cd

there will be a cast on u

[mild thunder]

No. It's RNG.

[gilded pawn]

no hes right

[clever path]

its like last season in vp

those guys beforel ast boss

[modest condor]

definitely hard coded to cast on you when sr is on cd

[clever path]

that did the lightning cast

and u had to stand in the lightning triangle or w/e it was

i stg

every single time i didnt have sr

he did it on me

[mild thunder]

I got targeted pretty regularly with that and had Spell Reflect up for it

[chilly fractal]

Maybe you are hacking the game

And should be banned

[burnt stone]

hi brothers
We created WA for smooth use of Cataclysmic Signet Brand in M+.

When the buff stack is 5 or more and the battle is over and the remaining duration of the buff is less than 10 seconds, “10 seconds remain until the Cataclysmic buff ends.”
A conversation message appeared.
The same context appears again at 5 seconds and 3 seconds.

Give a subtle hint to the tank to quickly continue the next battle.

I'm trying to edit the chat message into English to share it on wago. Can you tell me the appropriate English message?

[compact siren]

thank you cow man 🧎‍♂️

[red yew]

🧎‍♂️

[edgy widget]

depends on how nice you wanna be
10 seconds remain until the Cataclysmic buff ends is polite and not-so-"subtle" enough
BRAND FALLING IN 10, PLEASE PULL is a little more overt

[chilly fractal]

“Hurry up and pull, TANK!” /s

[vivid moth]

When at 15 stacks make it say go ham home boy

[edgy widget]

ngl unless it's a known player that they give a shit about, most tanks I know are probably going to either ignore it entirely and/or purposefully not pull just because of a message like that though

[red yew]

"If my buff drops so will your key level"

[burnt stone]

I don't want people using this WA to seem rude.
Please recommend polite lines lol

[red yew]

[chilly fractal]

This is a good one

[desert cloud]

Me warrior wan big dmmg ? Yes , pull now
No, don’t pull 🙂

[silver mantle]

Just how people intentionally kick when I have spell reflect up

[edgy widget]

I mean, that's not really the same thing

[silver mantle]

Love it

[clever path]

happens in premades as well

[edgy widget]

there's no real reason for anyone to know you have SR up unless they're purposefully tracking it

[silver mantle]

I know, I know

[clever path]

ye i started yelling

[edgy widget]

and even then, kicking is usually a quick reaction instinct

[storm rune]

The inverse rule is if I save it for a juicy SR I won't be targeted once the entire fight

[edgy widget]

lotta people get in the habit of kicking instantly as soon as they see something kickable (some casts are so fast they actually need this, although not many)

[silver mantle]

I tried telling pugs "hey guys, get this, it tells you when I have SR so don't kick"

didn't really work all that well

[clever path]

ye like not using it on soulrend

[fiery trail]

Never count on getting ur reflects off in pugs. Unless youre on voice comms or premade, forgetta boutit

[clever path]

on yazma

[gleaming crag]

i feel that they need to rework storm bolt to just destroy the incorps 1.5m cd on shatteringt hrow isnt good enough.

[clever path]

but waiting for wrecking pain

[silver mantle]

Yazma rework best thing S3

Y/N

?

[modest condor]

i say on voice that i can reflect if it's on me, i call reflect when a cast is on me and i reflect it, it still gets kicked

[edgy widget]

good for us, not so much everyone else

[modest condor]

i just gave up on trying to reflect interruptable casts

[burnt stone]

Since Cataclysmic kept telling me the remaining time, the tank continued the battle without interruption.

Then, Cataclysmic showed high damage in the boss battle. lol

[humble plover]

No because she knows I have spell reflect and will pick everybody but me for the entire fight

[edgy widget]

meh you throw it and if it lands cool, if not, oh well

[storm rune]

I'm practically crying by the end of a group run, my "Don't kick I'm SRing" WA is like a signal fire for the entire team to interrupt that mob with alpha priority

[modest condor]

yeah it's pretty crazy how strong it is if you can go into a boss with 15 stacks

[silver mantle]

You gotta try to trick the system by timing your SR cooldown so it's up 1s before she casts

i have no idea what I am talking about

[humble plover]

LOL

[edgy widget]

think the most polite version is the matter of fact one, something like - "X Seconds to reenter combat before Cataclysmic Brand falls"

keep it short and to the point

but I still don't expect most people to read it or care 😆

[silver mantle]

I mean, chain-pulling could be worth for a slightly better signet uptime

[hollow elk]

Hell on my premade I have friends looking for the spell reflect shield just to int and deny me the free dmg

[silver mantle]

but at the end of the day, it might just be better to go other trinkets

and save the hassle.

[burnt stone]

The tank's review after M+ using this WA was as follows:

“Your message gives me a sense of challenge and I must maintain it.”

[ember apex]

do M+ w/ worse players. and my guild mates are taken thank u very much

[edgy widget]

my tanks review after a M+
"your message felt like it was telling me what to do, so I purposefully did the opposite"

[clever path]

last boss eb or last boss brh its insane

how much damage it does

i mean the damage is insane on all bosses

if u start at 15

[edgy widget]

I don't have a problem with the WA or brand, but I would still only recommend using either in a group that is expecting it - e.g. coordinate it beforehand

[ember apex]

coordinate it beforehand = guys im taunting this random mob so my stacks dont fall off

coordinate beforehand = heroic throwing and saying whoops

coordinate it beforehand = whispering hunter to md tank if he doesnt pull in 3seconds

[silver mantle]

I feel like this is a good discussion to have for those of us who lack an augury trinket

[clever path]

they dont really replace each other

on high tyrans u want both

for example

if u can maintain signet that is

[ember apex]

maintain signet = "fat finger" wracking throw at 2s of buff fall off and apologize mid pull

[burnt stone]

https://wago.io/pmCi3KFmh
WA has been uploaded, so those who need it can use it.

[dense elbow]

Just taunt a critter, drop a box, have your priest/DK MC something and bring it about.

[storm rune]

I tell the tank to apologize to me

[dapper goblet]

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

[ember apex]

that'd be funny if at 3 seconds it changed from "buff expiring" to: "Pulling in 3 seconds"

[meager void]

"Pull you ape" would work wonders.

[burnt stone]

I hope the fury brothers look polite lol

[naive summit]

made a dh and i immidietly do like 30k more than my bis geared, legendary-having warrior in tott

highest ive ever done on warrior was 303k dps

looking at my log

my dh is 476 ilvl

game is so dumb

the shaman in that picture is 488 ilvl

the game was always about the fotm, but i feel like recently the divide has become enormous

between whats broken and what isnt

[acoustic furnace]

Warrior just needs some love. When's the last time we got blue notes for Fury? Arms got touched up a bit but is still way behind other specs.

Oh wait sorry they made our spear look worse so at least there's that

[silver mantle]

Just bribe the Sentinels to cast crushing depths on you

easy top dmg

[static spire]

When do we generally use the legendary in the opener?

[silver mantle]

Check the pins, it's written there

[static spire]

It says not on CDs

But would that be pre-cds or post-cds

while enraged

[silver mantle]

Either

Of course, try to use it while enrage for the haste

But other than that whenever you are out of CDs mainly

[static spire]

I guess it's easier to catch enrage post-cds rather than pre

[hardy cargo]

details is only effective uptime, its probably really similar

[naive summit]

no i looked at the effective uptime on the log xd

[young swan]

the last time we got real blue notes was 10.0.5

[sullen dove]

tbh i think itd b ok to send it during the opening reck charge ramp cuz most of the time thats during lust too so channel should rly only be like a second and a half long

[naive summit]

without effective its like 130k behind haha

[sullen dove]

presumably at least

[static spire]

valid

[sullen dove]

like the only thing you really "lose" is like 2ish seconds of reck uptime on other abilities

and idk if thats enough to care about if u wanna use it asap, but certain bosses there are also reasons to hold leggo

[naive summit]

like on the trainin dummies, which is 5 targets, my dh can do like 1.3 million dmg in the opener, and sustain like 600k dps

[sullen dove]

but on like a super short volc it might be good to squeeze 2 uses of leggo in

[static spire]

ah you mean like burn phases

[naive summit]

my fury warrior, does like 950k in the opener, and sustains like 550(if in execute)

[sullen dove]

yea or like, save for funneling boss with adds

not sure how ppl actually use leggo on tindral but i would imagine its the highest value to use it on boss as roots about to die

and just truck boss

[naive summit]

like why are we target capped, when dh beats us on that target cap anyways

[silver mantle]

We got our ravager buffed, iirc. Only to then use an entirely different build next season that doesn't include ravager.

[naive summit]

and isnt target capped

[acoustic furnace]

Exactly. Almost everyone else is getting tuned and reworked while we sit here with shit tier utility and mid range DPS. Warrior is just so average in all aspects of play. Let us stand out SOMEWHERE so folks have a reason to take us.

[sullen dove]

ravager was used all of 10.1 huh

[young swan]

we used ravager for all of s1 and s2

[silver mantle]

wait

Didn't it get buffed slightly before s3?

or am I misremembering?

[young swan]

no idea

not by any sizable amount

i remember roar getting a small buff

thats about it

[silver mantle]

I faintly recall some 12% buff or something

[hardy cargo]

if you dont remember thats probably evidence enough lol

[acoustic furnace]

^

[upbeat sentinel]

Meanwhile DPS DKs:

[sullen dove]

the only 'buff' i rember to s2 build is no longer having to worry about whether or not av or reck goes first for berserkers torment

[silver mantle]

I need to dig up the blue posts for this

Been having one hell of a mandela effect week

[hardy cargo]

I remember whirlwind dmg going from 50%-55% in s2

when we were like the lowest st spec in the game

[sullen dove]

but yea i mean thinking about leggo on use on like smolderon, while i would say you obv want to use it during 2 diff intermissions idk if u ever actually have the time left to do so

maybe on second intermiss right at the end you shouldve cleared all your bb stacks

idk if itd be better on 4th tho to use it over like execute range bb and stuff like that

[acoustic furnace]

Unholy is good if it's being force fed PI but I concur that frost is shit tier.

[sullen dove]

probably will tho if channels super short

[young swan]

frost, ww, and arms suffer from middle child syndrome

just totally forgotten

[sullen dove]

lorrgs has leggo use wildly spread across

like connect 4

[upbeat sentinel]

Both suffer from “sit in your death and decay or don’t ever cleave”

The fact that it’s been like that for 2 expansions is crazy. There’s no way blizz thinks that’s fun gameplay

[desert cloud]

is this a reasonable dps for this ilvl https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/orHxpg9XbAPYVA4why55kb

[upbeat sentinel]

Fury is at least fun to play regardless of DPS outcome

Frost genuinely feels like shit in M+ during sanguine or if your tank moves ever

[sullen dove]

probably fine yea

missing 3 sockets would give u like 3-4k dps

489 offhand like another 600-1k or somethin

for me at least 2sf sims like 1k higher than allied wrist pure st but not rly real in current raid anyway

tbh crafted ring would prolly do you pretty damn good

[silver dawn]

It sucks so much during sanguine. Just the worst

[desert cloud]

i'm running allied for m+

i don't wanna keep swapping gear

[sullen dove]

yea allied still way more practical

[silver mantle]

@young swan https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-–-august-8/1645946

[sullen dove]

just sf is as we in the business say "sim padding"

[silver mantle]

Fury did INDEED get some rather decent buffs

Granted, we still had 3 months left to play the patch

[young swan]

that was like 3% st damage

[desert cloud]

did they change some animation ?

[silver mantle]

so it wasn't exactly before the end

[young swan]

those were aoe buffs

[silver mantle]

Ye, I know

[young swan]

yeah I wouldnt call that decent'

[hardy cargo]

they buffed us and we were still the worst st spec

[silver mantle]

hey, 8% is 8%

we take what we can get

[young swan]

we were, and continued to be, the worst ST spec in the game

[desert cloud]

isn't that stuffo old ?

the buffs

[sullen dove]

"they will alter the s2 set to make us good st guys surely we wont be bottom of the barrel in raid again"

[silver mantle]

Ye, its super old

[sullen dove]

s2 🤖 moment

[silver mantle]

I was just posting couse I got serious issues with my mentality

[young swan]

its this mentality which is the reason people have been upset with warrior since SL in one way or another

[slim coral]

It’s cause Crit won’t make an I’m upset part 2

[silver mantle]

No, ye, I agree. I was just linking the article to show that we did get some minor buffs before being forced to transition away from said buffs

Anyway, I completely agree with you xan I wasn;t trying to argue

[young swan]

yeah i knew about those buffs

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

kinda forgot rav got buffed

pretty inconsequential

[silver mantle]

I just wanted to find the article couse I was 95% sure we got some ravager buffs before being forced into playing OF

[slim coral]

They hate us cause we look good on raid meters with paddding

[hardy cargo]

They hate us cause they ain’t us

[silver mantle]

y u gotta do me like that man, lemme type

[restive peak]

Yo fr FUCK this game man

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dALghQxP382x1w1ZrsMopQ

[hardy cargo]

😎

[sullen dove]

i wasnt chatting you

[silver mantle]

ah

[restive peak]

479, minimal sockets, not optimized drops

[slim coral]

Wrong channel

[sullen dove]

where is pink channel

[slim coral]

This is not the ret discord

[restive peak]

NO SHIT BAZE IM JUST FUCKIN MAD OK

My fuckin 488 warrior sims 5.5k above

Blizzard sucks

[silver mantle]

Anyway, I'm glad I can now postpone my appointment with the shrink

[slim coral]

Automatic 10 minute timeout

Right meow

[restive peak]

Listen

[sullen dove]

12k above that pally

[restive peak]

Don't you meow at me right meow

[slim coral]

Why do mages int so many of my keys

[restive peak]

:ragey:

[slim coral]

They are tanker than me!

[restive peak]

Mage is hard friend

They must press buttons

Buttons hard

Go brrr

[slim coral]

Fire is ez asf

I played that shit for splits

[restive peak]

BUTTONS ARE HARD BAZE

[sullen dove]

arcane is hard

thats about it afaik

[slim coral]

Arcane isn’t too bad

[sullen dove]

fire is like, easy but has like 20 off gcd buttons so u gotta have fast fingers

[slim coral]

Just a lot of nuances

[young swan]

so its hard

[silver mantle]

Easy but hard.

[sullen dove]

[slim coral]

Well it’s easy at a base level

But it can get hard yeah

[silver mantle]

Easy to play, hard to master.

I'm so good at this type of analysis.

[slim coral]

Would you guys say complex and hard are the same

[sullen dove]

uh yea

[silver mantle]

From a linguistic standpoint, they are most definitely not the same.

[sullen dove]

cuz 90% of specs in this game are a joke comparatively

"hit this button when it lights up"

[slim coral]

That’s what fire mage is

[sullen dove]

fire mage is all the lights

[slim coral]

Just hit button when proc

[sullen dove]

next week surely

[slim coral]

The hardest class for me was outlaw rogue in m+

[soft vortex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gz64HRqfQaDvpPFc#fight=15&type=damage-done&source=35

Can you guys rip me apart and tell me why my ST damage is so low

😁

[naive summit]

bro outlaw is a different beast

[slim coral]

Because you have the invis abilities and the regular

[naive summit]

to play well

[silver mantle]

You should post that in log review

[soft vortex]

Ok

[slim coral]

In raid outlaw isn’t hard but in keys swapping between invis blows

[sullen dove]

you spear'd before you odyns on opener for one

which is kinda odd

before even getting enraged it seems

so just kinda wasting the spear benefit you want to use on empowered bloodbaths

[soft vortex]

I'm new to fury so I'm learning all I can as fast as I can. Guild needed warrior for shout so I offered to do it.

[sullen dove]

typical opener on a st boss like that is
reck > charge > rampage > odyns > spear > bb > ramp > bb > avatar > ramp > bb a few more times and youre chillin

that way you should get 3 bb's sometimes 4 with lust in the spear crit damage buff

[slim coral]

Does the Lego actually fee like a Lego now

I don’t have one

[soft vortex]

I posted log in review channel.

[silver mantle]

It does and it doesn't

[sullen dove]

proly not but feeling like a leggo aside an item thats worth 5% of your damage just not dropping is dogshit

[silver mantle]

(i also don't have it btw so idk how it feels)

[slim coral]

I think the main issue is that the classes are still undertuned

For where they should be with a Lego

Except ret

[slim coral]

Yeah not having it during prog kinda sucked

[sullen dove]

as much as i'd like it for prog ofc its more important there even reclearing doesnt feel fun

on like the few bosses i get super high ranks like rank 6 on igira or rank 3 on volc and the primary difference between r1 and me is just having the legendary

fuckin stupid

[slim coral]

Yeah also being tuned around it sucks the most

Like why is my spec at the bottom due to something that’s I won’t get for months

And then even when I get it it’s still at the bottom

[indigo quarry]

pink warrior time to shine

blizzard dropped the tuning ball so hard

its really bad

[silver mantle]

Basically everyone and their grandma but me got legendary. Not only that, the other warrior in the guild has both legendary and augury. Because of that he's, on average, 10-12mil ahead of me on boss damage.

Assuming we're both equally skilled at the class, guess who gets taken for progress.

Not getting the legendary in a timely-fashion is deadass cringe

[fading sky]

This is the main issue

And prob same for m+ pushers

[hard widget]

Can confirm sucks to not have it

For m+

[sonic badge]

with 4pc should i use titanic rage?

[thorny bramble]

how do i survive chronoburst in high keys?

[desert cloud]

depends

[thorny bramble]

struggling at like 24s

[desert cloud]

most people run dancing blades

for ST

[sonic badge]

this would be for m+

[desert cloud]

and m+ for ST as well

for high keys boss dmmg matters a lot so dancing blades would be better

but it's a preference if u wanna run titanic or dancing for m+

[thorny bramble]

is catalcysmic signet brand a sim trap?

[oblique trail]

No it's as good as it sims

Just keep in mind it's a ramping trinket

So its value depends a lot on the killtimer

[next tide]

So, i just lost augury to a BM hunter. Can i be angry in here? Jeeeeeez /facepalm

[hallow hull]

To a BM hunter?

Christ

[desert cloud]

in heroic i run it in tindral and nymue and fyrrak otherwise it don't do well

but in mythic it's a perma trinket

[oblique trail]

I'd only use it on 4 min+ fights

[next tide]

Yes. insta equiped it..

[oblique trail]

Since otherwise you need good RNG for it to be good under that killtimer

[desert cloud]

sometimes i drop stacks while in combat

i don't even get how it works

[oblique trail]

That sounds like cap

Never had that happen

[next tide]

Thats wierd Zeldrone? I've never had that happen

That's not how its supposed to work xD

[desert cloud]

idk i see it sometimes go from 11 to 10

[oblique trail]

That's out of combat

It slowly drops a stack until it completely disappears

[next tide]

Its fades after 15 seconds

[oblique trail]

It does not do that in combat

[hallow hull]

Sim 231K ST with Lego. This good for Fury? No augery or branch.

[oblique trail]

231k is low with the Lego all things considered

[desert cloud]

is branch even good

[hallow hull]

Just got the lego so its throwing me off a little.

[oblique trail]

Branch is not great

It's just good

[jovial coral]

So Benski does the legendary dot and active show as seperate on details

[oblique trail]

no

You need a script to separate them

[hallow hull]

Not sure what to do to get the dps higher outside of winning augery lottery

[oblique trail]

I don't have it though

Get more gear

[jovial coral]

Not a divorce lawyer so don't need np

[oblique trail]

If you sim 231k with the Lego there's very obvious upgrades you can get

[hardy cargo]

Sockets, myth track gear, prolly hero track even

[barren dagger]

question on pip's. is there any way to choose your "friend"? does it just change randomly?

[oblique trail]

It changes randomly

[hardy cargo]

With 231k sim

[barren dagger]

changes with the proc?

[oblique trail]

Yes when it empowers, it swaps to a new friend

Iirc

[hallow hull]

Hmm back to work I guess.

[oblique trail]

I've not used it apart from like 1 key so haven't thought much about how it works

[hallow hull]

What number area should I shoot for in ST?

[oblique trail]

As high as possible

The max Fury sim rn that I've seen is roughly 250.5k

[short arrow]

Dude WTH am I doing wrong ST at 485 with all buffs raid buffs I still@can only sim at 217

[oblique trail]

Sounds like talents to me

[barren dagger]

apparently pips is quite good on fortified to push for overall since ST trinkets lose value

i'm trying it out

[oblique trail]

That's what I sim with my full m+ setup at 487

[barren dagger]

like rezans on trash is pretty mediocre right?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[summer quail]

are your trinkets just super garbage maybe?

[oblique trail]

Also a possibility

Trinkets, no sockets, talents

[short arrow]

Myth serpent and myth might of the ocean

[summer quail]

serpent suck ass

[hallow hull]

Yeah Im 487 and crafted pieces to sim higher. Damn never struggled on a class this hard to get a good sim and damage.

[oblique trail]

Tbf Serpent does sim fairly well

But yeah in practice it's not great

[summer quail]

ye just a bit simbait

link your sim? @short arrow

[short arrow]

Ya but I can’t get away from lfr brand

[olive wraith]

Might also sims less than brand/Rezans iirc

[barren dagger]

i sim like 222k on ST at 485

[short arrow]

So it’s either serpent or lfr brand

[hallow hull]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oJ85gA96yP1JhavCxqHit1

[oblique trail]

It does sim less because while it aligns with CDs, it's not as good as the damage trinkets

[hallow hull]

Any ideas ?

[oblique trail]

Recraft your gear

[summer quail]

don't think i've seen sophic devotion sim the best for anyone this patch

[oblique trail]

It's all haste/mast or similar

[summer quail]

have you simmed your enchants?

[oblique trail]

Try and swap it to mast/vers instead

[hallow hull]

Alright. And yeah I load up enchants when I sim.

And gems.

I'm trying to squeeze every HP out of this pony ya know lol.

[hardy cargo]

Where’s your head enchant

I’m looking in mobile so it could be fucked or something with enchants

[hallow hull]

Its on.

Well in game it is.

But the sims not showing it.

Wtf

[tardy lark]

Would be chefs kiss

[hallow hull]

Sec reloading sim

[short arrow]

Ok well I forgot I got myth smolderon eel last night so sim is a bit higher still but I still feel low

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sZkPwXT2SoZQujGE7Fu3x4

[hardy cargo]

Leg enchant could also be frosted armor kit

The one with armor

[hallow hull]

Ok ty

[desert cloud]

why are my sims so fking low

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1oup3Xy5rhxUVoGmm9jrfm

[vague copper]

Warrior life

[summer quail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ki2CqvpY9eBNhvbZ2HTtRT

got you a little bit of damage

[acoustic furnace]

I'm pretty sure it actually SHOULD be frosted because of Armored to the Teeth

[oblique trail]

It makes very little difference what armour kit you use

[acoustic furnace]

Ah but it makes a difference and we min max up in this bitch

[desert cloud]

elp me too 😦

[hallow hull]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ii4jYi2HV4aTCGxbgYarhE

Got it up some.

Gonna sim crafted pieces. See what sticks

[vague copper]

Fixed it for you

[sour frigate]

Damn big numbers brooo

💪

[desert cloud]

u mistaked DH for ret bro

fix that shit now

[vague copper]

Same shit diff name

[clever path]

people dont like real warriors here

actually damaging warriors

not just emotional damage, but real dps

[desert cloud]

i didn't understand a single thing u said

i'm either cooked

or u are

[clever path]

maybe we both

[desert cloud]

zaza

brain

[lapis lion]

dagoth is absolutely fried

[odd star]

i see some people take out slaughtering strikes in m+ builds for bloodcraze or fresh meat, is there a guideline? is it preference? i didnt even know there was deviations in our m+ builds

[oblique trail]

Bloodcraze is more ST compared to Slaughtering being a bit more AoE

Fresh Meat though I wouldn't bother with

[odd star]

i see, im watching noxiv stream rn and noticed they're running bloodcraze so i got curious

i guess i'll keep slaughtering strikes since im doing lower keys (16s to 20s)

[oblique trail]

It wont make a huge change, but it helps with dry streaks even in AoE as well

[desert cloud]

i mean in a +16 adds insta die so if u wanna pad go for odyn's talents otherwise just run the raid aoe build with stuns

which is where they take dancing blades and bloodcraze

[odd star]

makes sense

[desert cloud]

with those fury easily pulls 190K to 200K depending on fight or even more in ST in dungs

[odd star]

this build then?

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/DAPEURUVEEZUQQpFRRBEOVVERUZAQVEoVBUBQ

[desert cloud]

u could drop fear for extra slam dmmg

otherwise that's giga utility build

perfect for soloQ

[formal ravine]

Nay

Slam does jackshit

Don't drop fear for it

[desert cloud]

i mean ey extra dmmg is extra dmmg

[oblique trail]

Nah like

Crushing does zero

It's worthless

[hardy cargo]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/DAPEURUVEgJUQQpFRRBEOVVERUZAQVEoVBUBU pretty sure hes sayingu can run something like this, the tradeoff here is the talent underneath odyns fury. dancing blades is good for prio and single target dam, youll want it as you go higher

[formal ravine]

Extra dmg vs your aoe "interrupt"

And that extra dmg on a 30k critted slam when doing 500k

yeah no

keep the fear

[burnt stone]

Brothers, which trinkets are good in heroic difficulty?
I have 489 Cataclysm, but the battle time is too short so I don't think it's suitable.

[hardy cargo]

I believe in that case might+augury

[warm crag]

might/augury or eye/augury is fine ye

[desert cloud]

he has cata he said

[hardy cargo]

or if under 3m you can prolly do embersoul

[hardy cargo]

read past that part champ

[desert cloud]

he has 489 cata why would he take another one

i don't get it

[hardy cargo]

signet brand stacks up

its like pocket anvil last tier

[desert cloud]

bruh nvm i'm dumb i thought he was asking what to take from vault

[hardy cargo]

the longer the fight goes the better it is

[sullen dove]

yea tbh idk why the vault was linked at all

lol

[warm crag]

gotta flex the mythic brand

[desert cloud]

yea that fuked with my brain

[hardy cargo]

I think hes asking if he should take the spores

[warm crag]

do not the spores

[sullen dove]

ive gotten 2 in my vaults so far

[lone zinc]

spores is ass

[sullen dove]

spores

[burnt stone]

Typically, it takes close to 3 minutes for a stack of Cataclysm to fill up.

[dark elbow]

Spore = bad

[desert cloud]

the spore trinket is bad take ilvl upgrade from vault and that's it and for short fights like everyone said earlier an augery + might or augery+rezan's eye

[hardy cargo]

if your fight is just over 3m might will probably beat out embersoul, if under 3m and you wont get a 3rd use of might then embersoul is pretty good I think

[formal ravine]

Take the sword it's a nice transmog

[dark elbow]

Get a 489 item or socket

[warm crag]

there is no shot embersoul beats rezan

[formal ravine]

patch is short

transmog is eternal

[desert cloud]

what is embersoul

[hardy cargo]

the smolderon trinket thats not brand

[desert cloud]

ah

[hardy cargo]

possibly, its a sim question, but for a lot of fights it certainly pumps in hc

(assuming good fight timings)

any dmg amp it would definitely beat rezans methinks

[warm crag]

its legit the worst performing trinket on volc on hc lol

[desert cloud]

also is this week the fuking anti warriors week

i been applying for a +20 dht for the last 30 mins

[formal ravine]

i do not see a single heroic fight other than the last 2 lasting over 3 or even 3 minutes though

[desert cloud]

and i've timed it on +23

[odd star]

i havent specced into fear for a long time, can i just send it without a care or should i be careful of the feared mobs running and getting more adds? is that even in the game still?

[formal ravine]

Nah fear will 99% of the time break a sec after use

But use it as a back up interupt plan if everyone's on cd

And 2-3 units are casting at the same tmie

[odd star]

ok

[desert cloud]

they won't run dw

[hardy cargo]

yeah this is also worse use case for it, im just comparing might and embersoul and citing the timings of which is better when. At that point could also just compare might v rezan

[warm crag]

its still good to learn how exactly fear actually fears the target

[hardy cargo]

they can run, but its exceedingly rare when 5 ppl are smackin the shit out of the mobs

[warm crag]

<2% of ppl used embersoul on hc smold i think its fair to just discard it completely

especially when better trinkets are readily accessible from m+

[hardy cargo]

in general or top 100?

[warm crag]

in general

its not represented in the top 100

[hardy cargo]

honestly this is just a sim question lol

yea I went to top 100 and saw after i asked

bc I still firmly believe if you find a good fight timer for embersoul its fine

[warm crag]

name one

[hardy cargo]

with smolderon you honestly probably wont ever unless 1p

[formal ravine]

Actually i cannot think of any

Fyrak and tindral have phases

[hardy cargo]

2m 15s fight time would be better for embersoul than might

[formal ravine]

So timing them is garbage either way

It wouldn't

[summer quail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eSGeAYTfJqW5GeMA8uzmKC

[formal ravine]

at 2:15 you get 2 might uses

how would 2 might uses be worse than 1 embersoul

On a stat we do not even need

[hardy cargo]

and you also get 2 embersoul uses

on pull at 2 mins

might is on pull 1.5m

[formal ravine]

Then it would be represented at last on heroic

It's not like entire community nobody thought or tried it

the haste loss being 1 whole minute is too much

And technically given that embersoul duration is 20 sec , same as might, embersoul is only better than might for something like the first 10 sec

Cus it decays

So you get both the stat loss plus the main stat not being up the entire time

[olive wraith]

A look back at fury warrior and war within wishlist.
Utility bad warrior bad no invites.
Wishlist. Lust, 3 aoe uncapped stuns, shout battle rez, uncapped aoe, mechanic to place yourself in lfg party

[wild mural]

sexy

[hardy cargo]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4mUV38U7vBhL1iVSoqkmbN @formal ravine @warm crag 3m sim 1 boss target embersoul slightly better than might. if you extend this to like 3m15s might wins out surely

[warm crag]

no avoidance

[hardy cargo]

this sim also has nothing to do with any sort of dmg amp phases or any of that bullshit bc I am not too great with sims

[warm crag]

no speed

[hardy cargo]

bro LMFAO

[warm crag]

no leech

[wild mural]

shit your right

I dont have any leech

[warm crag]

no timestrike

[hardy cargo]

leech enchants

[wild mural]

indestructible tho

[ebon venture]

so when is the most suitable time to use the leggo on use? hoping i get it soon xD

[desert cloud]

guys is it normal that wow used 4gb of memory ?

or do i have some weird bug

it keeps crashing my pc due to usage of memory

[hardy cargo]

after cooldowns are all over

[desert cloud]

fuking paladins

posting random screenshots

[clever path]

[desert cloud]

and running away

[clever path]

sorry wrong chat

was supposed to throw this into paladin disc

[desert cloud]

nah u just flexing ur wings

[clever path]

my wings are broken after realizing that alliance looses every bg ever in eu

[desert cloud]

it's te other way around actually

[dusty brook]

another fury told me i should not get above 25% haste. can someone confirm this?

[warm crag]

dunno sim it

will be the most accurate answer

[dapper goblet]

voodoo

[warm crag]

what is the voodoo lore

[dusty brook]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/56xHGvQUHcTriuZHDCxQsb

my gear is similar to the last posted one, except for 3 things. leggo, trinket, belt. its 30k dps difference. any ideas on what i could change?
i have everything to craft belt/neck if necessary

[warm crag]

talents

[dusty brook]

ah yes. i forgot to change to single target talents in that sim. regardless, any tips itemwise?

[mortal rock]

what is better for s4 fury or arms

[warm crag]

also why is there only one embellishment

[dusty brook]

embellishment are the crafted effects?

i just started playing again 2 months ago, so embellishments are new

[vivid tusk]

@zealous parrot happy 8 day (yakuza 8 and tekken 8!!!!)

[meager gyro]

Wizard

[zealous parrot]

Log in

[sullen dove]

is this the fabled proprietor of

fallen

[half cargo]

[silver dawn]

Yeah. You should use two of them. The wowhead guide has a great rundown of what to use and craft.

[dusty brook]

thx, will look into it. is there a general rule for embellishments/weapon enchants to always use the same one twice?

[vivid tusk]

game dead

[still ibex]

No. Sim

[silver dawn]

It depends on the class and spec and even sometimes on whether you’re focusing on raids or mythic plus.

[dusty brook]

makes sense. do you know if there is a clear choice for fury in the current raid?
my biggest issue rn is that i need to reduce the amount of options i put into my sim. but if i can clearly tell that one embellishment/enchant/gem is favourable, i can opt the alternatives out of the sim

[clever path]

[covert blaze]

🔮

[wary grove]

Double shadowFlame patch or Flamepatch and vers bracers are basocally the same so pick one combo

Enchants and gems change based on gear so no 1 "best" option

Realistically though Mastery/vers gems are probably gonna be bis eventually

[desert cloud]

tell him

or i'll say it myself

[wary grove]

https://tenor.com/view/treat-yo-self-treat-your-self-parks-and-rec-parks-and-recreation-retta-gif-5540972

[desert cloud]

ret

[dusty brook]

thank you. already going with mastery/vers gem.
i guess this anwears another questions i have - the effects on some crafted items (bracers, shield, legs...) and the once that i can add myself (e.g. shadowflame) are both embelisshments and i can maximum have 2 at the same time?

[hallow hull]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6KDf34sRZdXqzdspmMyjhB

Thx bois. Allot closer to 240K than I was earlier.

[silver dawn]

Correct.

[dusty brook]

👌

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jMhdMHY9JMwW4YbXaz25Vc ez

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bqs7cwAqPRuKugPoXZENsE

even with your current gear you're at 240

[hallow hull]

Is there much a difference between quick sim and gear compare?

Also thanks man.

[unreal onyx]

well the gear compare is with a 489 OH

the quick sim is just a quick sim of the string you put in

[icy panther]

anyone have a smf build? running a normal alt run and kinda wanna see what i can do

[north edge]

If you want to play with 2 one handers I suggest dh

No smf builds are any where near competive, and you may as well make up your own if it’s just to fuck around

[sour frigate]

Fdk

[edgy widget]

drop Massacre/Slaughtering Strikes/Bloodcraze for SMF

[icy panther]

thanks archi 🙂

[umbral dust]

If I wanted to look up where other fury warriors are using thier CDs on bosses, where/how could I do that?
I saw an addon/WA about it on reddit, but I cant find it now for the life of me..

[clever path]

outlaw

[warm crag]

lorrgs

[edgy widget]

wow have I got the article for you!
https://www.wowhead.com/news/analyze-and-plan-class-cooldowns-with-lorrgs-io-337293

[umbral dust]

I cant put into words how thankful I am

[cold cape]

How do people play Uproar on Fyrakk?

Do you pair it with OF? But wouldn't that mean holding OF which is probably a no?

Or just send it on CD and holding it on adds?

[hallow moth]

OF you mean onlyfans

[cold cape]

Odyn's Fury

[sullen dove]

eh i mean if youre going out of your way to use uproar you prolly would hold it for every set of adds in p2, particularly might be good to just roar a random pack to the side not many people are gonna hit right away so it fully ticks on them and go back to hitting the important mini adds in the path of the healer adds, or just wail on colossi

u can try and look for the logs ppl use uproar and just see when they use roar

[spiral oasis]

Another week, another lack of legendary

And augury

Next week for sure!!

[covert blaze]

[spiral oasis]

[hardy cargo]

its ok we are in thos together brother ( im in the same boat im losing my mental)

[sinful spoke]

these?

[sullen dove]

if u got both of those surely u must have all of these

[sinful spoke]

those dont matter

🥱

[sullen dove]

tru

🧎‍♂️

[foggy urchin]

[sinful spoke]

after prog is over im gonna get at least 100

one

100

[spiral oasis]

crazy photoshop

nice try tho

[sinful spoke]

oh man sardine

if only u could see

i have 3 auguries on diff alts

and a 2nd one on warr vault

and 2 leggos