#fury
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fury warrior
real
who tf r u in there
im the ret
it was a 16 and the tank pulled like my grandma
the tran
i would not take advice from an instagram page of a pvp fury warrior
Real
3 buttons
I will upload a 10 second guide on pinterest on how you do the Fury opener
Look forward to it
i will open youtube and watch my favourite german fury warrior content creator (he macroed reck to ava in AM and just didnt press it with ravager)
Better than me where do I find his tips
what a gigachad
Tell me where do I find his teachings
anyone on tindral? curious if you are in the first feather set like me. and how your using cds
ask them to be on the 2nd feather set
luuul
i mean
literally every fury warrior is on the 2nd set
idk why your raid would have to be special
2nd set
I'm on first feathers, and after like 4 raid nights I'll just stick to it so neither I nor someone else would have to adapt and change at this point
damn there are 2 fury warriors in the world on first set and they're both here
I'm first set in my raid as well
I try to be wf in one way or another
IMMA BE REAL WITH U
Hibernate instantly
i am unconcious
You will wake up the picosecond that the vault opens up on wednesday
That you're a very eepy boy needing to catch up on sleep
you are stunning me for 5 full days wtf
ayo uh anyone able to tell me wtf is up with this log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z4wHPpYnNTt3myDv#fight=1&type=damage-done
is it just like super condensed or somehting and processed wrong by wcl
idk its always gnarlroot hc its been around since the start of the patch
maybe smth abt pulling adds into the fight
I do wonder though, looking at Lorrgs, there are plenty of loggs that have CD timings around being the 1st fliers. What would cause it to a negative being 1st feathers
ok im on 2nd set now. so do i just rip odyns on cd
Nvm I see it now
i will obliterate you
You are not a Frost Death Knight, you are not Him
You do not have Obliterate talented
I will unleash the rage of Fyr'alath
rip on seeds there are a couple you'll be dropping it off seeds but should have one for seeds
roots
not seeds
brain rot
rip on seeds i think

are you sure? im looking at it right now and the whole top 50 is using OF around 30 seconds which means they're not flying first
yeah im using 2nd odyns like 1 second into a root set which is fine
a lot of top logs also aren't going up at all iirc
zyn son or cart daughter
I pop OF as I land after flying 1st feathers
I still have it ready to break out of 3rd roots
But what I meant was looking at Avatar/Roar timings later
And I see now how disgusting P3 timings are for Avatar if you fly 1st
you almost certainly lose OF casts from this
for the 3rd root aka 50 seconds in we wanna pot/reckless/odyn/TR/BB/ramp/ava?
50 seconds in is the 2nd set
your OF shouldnt be up at 0:50
you can pot the first set and still have it up for second
Hey there, just wanna ask something. I've simmed both arms and fury for patchwork (adjusted all my crafted gear to suit the best for each spec). However I'm getting more from Arms rather than Fury. and here I was told Fury is supposedly better for ST(patchwork).
Fury: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8cUV5ZnqRhD3UAKev6UmAd
Arms: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xbYZiSy8MWhopuLaCNzebR
Perhaps anyone can tell me if Im doing something wrong with my sim or not. Thanks.
ye arms is just better for pure ST now
you should realistically still play fury for most of the raid on prog rn
esp the final 3
Because of?
last 2 bosses particularly tindral have a ton of aoe fury is just better at
better damage profile and tankier
and fury lives better
but arms pretty good on fyrakk if u rly want to
this all also revolving around mythic doesnt matter what u play anywhere else
u can live through some stupid stuff on fury
im always top damage taken by them but i've only died once and that was because i was out of range of healers
Aside from the tankiness reasons already mentioned, none of the 3 final fights are dps checks
If you live to enrage all of them die
but yea i def just like, stand in the middle a single blue swirl on tindral if its like ambiguous whether or not ill stand in multiple or there isnt a clear spot to dodge a beam
i took 9 hits of the blue swirlie and lived
lolol
jackie dying on fyrakk so she can post in skyhold i see what you're doing
And with the amount of gear you have from vaults id be shocked if smolderon goes to enrage, you see 4th feathers on tindral or have to play the final seeds on fyrakk
You burn better than you fight
like half of my guild posting in attendance that they're sick and not feeling well and would like to sit if they can
wtf goin on
i been sick too this past week tbh but still gamed
@modest condor does there have to be a rogue in each flyset? for a blind? wtf is that about
Only blind tech i know is that you can mass aoe blind the 0:50 treants with blackjack for a small raid dr
yea thats it
That has nothing to do with flying tho
Its maybe justifiable to press it again in p2 during one of the seed Stars overlap but idk
Root into seeds into stars*
Time to prog weakauras
so excited for that :)
dont be gaslit by WA makerupers
Having just completed the campaign, where tf is Runetotem at
I don't see him anywhere
is that a fury warrior
So as fury what would the stat prority actually be like?
they'll say stuff like "dont press it more than once"
wait that that actually mess up the wa
im a serial spam macro pusher
Me when nsky actually develops the most foolproof indestructible weakaurs and people still spread fake news about its functionality
people just like to lie and say it does
oh ok im spamming
Ye spamming doesnt fuck it up ever
rather double press than accidentally not press
Only reasons itll fail is no presses or WA version diff
i need a more fun message i think tho
ya makes sense
we also just did* squeaky bat roll call
people like to cry about the intermission because of the WA but its literally just user error..
think we had issues one time but it was because someones name was wrong in the note
i thought it was going to be more intense than look at icon
đ´ đď¸
Ye idk if u complain abt smth that effectively boils Down to user error maybe you should stop selfreporting
i see..
stop checking my trinkets
I will check your trinkets until you retract your statements about how terrible the legendary is and that youd rather have trinkets
MYTHIC FYRAK DIE AND LEGGO ACQUIRED

take that gholak and go for a smf build
get the lego and vendor it
let's gooooooooo
Not gonna ping, in case you sleep. But just in case: Foooooking good job, mate. And gz on the đŞ!
smell an arms rat in here
only versa lower đ
The low versa bothers me more than it should 
Surely the BLP doesnât work
what blp means
bad luck protection
Do you have it
I have all the BLP

correct
+++++
Anyone know how to find a crew that can do Amirdrassil M+?
ember gang
Until hall of fame fills up and then I can BUY BOOSTS
cant wait for jackie to join axe haver club and immediately switch up đ
relatable
kinda suprised they didnt do something like nerf blaze damage when they took tendril out back
Theyâll probably nerf the fuck out of fyrak after hall of fame fills up
considering the scope of the tindral nerf, not that many actually killed him after the nerf
I don't think it changed the pull count for your prog if you hadn't done any pulls on that boss yet
And hall of fame is at 175, with 10 guilds killing Fyrak for the first time yesterday
Itâll fill soon
fr
i just heard someone say your vault rewards are based off the dungeons you do. like if your 20 is throne you will get loot from throne. is this, as they say, "cap"?
it is indeed cap
thats what i thought
if you do a 20 rise that vault slot will draw from every single dungeon item of the current season for your set loot spec
not just from rise
yeah thats how i thought its always worked but this dude just gaslit me i guess
its a similar story with raid bosses but if youve killed the boss (but only for your very first kill)
so if u zone in to get your 2 first kills kill gnarl and igira youll only have loot from those first 2 bosses
conversely, if you kill tindral and fyraak the vault slot will roll from all bosses
it unlocks loot table of all bosses prior to the ones youve killed as well
reroll to ret
next week for sure
Honestly ret is so boring that i don't wanna try it lmao
Donât be
Why are you coping me
I've tried it before and I just couldn't get into the rotation and how boring it was
higher apm and same number of buttons
we are in #fury
Could be, but it just feels off
has to be its same keybinds but 70% haste
Yea so
You really need to feed haste to ret to feel not like a turtle
Divine storm spam after
I got pants with embelish for haste on every pack, it goes all the way up to 40%
haste, vers right?
Yessir
no crit/
pink enjoyers get out
?
at least be talking about yellow or purple geez
Crit is also important , but not as haste vers - you should be looking at those 3 yeah. My crit is 33, master 40, verse 21 and haste 33 without buffs
Why does it look like the cat is trying to shit
lol purple
Everybody hates purple

Pink warriors and brown warriors
cant be unseen
Unite
Ew no
catch me with maroon before that for sure
Maroon ?
no one uses you anymore
(vhs)
sorry too far
why does ret want haste yet takes ashes of embersoul
whats wrong with ashes
because ret is cd window class and the ashes debuff expires before the next window
I see
I guess I am that old yea
Anybody know the size of Tindrals abosrb during intermission off hand?
like 100mil
yea just about as much as a warlock in PvP
Do we run uproar in M+?
if no shockwave i suppose
How do we use avatar then? Just on CD and as a mini OF?
no
How come? Is it that much better with Avatar?
unless u know pulls and their timers its not worth it
Why not?
cause u desync it until it naturally aligns again
Oh I see
Does signet suck for keys?
depends on the dungeon/how it's pulled/if it's spiteful week or not
Like even if you can chain pull, does it do any AOE?
it's good if you maintain it
Because the buff stacks on your target right? Iâm not clear on how it works
I would never bother personally
no
If you change targets or it dies, donât stacks reset?
it stacks on you as a buff
Ahh
buff stacks on you, but starts dropping out of combat. Makes it difficult to maintain throughout
when it procs you put a dot on the target and you gain a stack
So one is at 15 stacks it just constantly radiates 110k/6s forever on your target and 10% aoe?
basically
Does that 100k get cleaved?
Honestly if you can get MotO and Augury, just run that for dungeons (says the guy who can't get an augury)
Like if you enter a pack at full stacks and cleave + OF it has a chance to inflict that on everything around you?
yeah i would say just run might + augury/any good passive one
Ya Iâve been farming tides no luck
the tooltip is very clear on what it does
the cleave damage is only 10%. The trinket is really not that good in aoe.
Pugging 16s suck
And the problem is that sims show it higher than it should be because they're acting like we're permanently at 15 stacks, which just isn't feasible in most runs
Not really. It says it radiates 10% but also âyour abilities have a chance to apply the dotâ odyns fury is an ability that hits multiple targets so it could put the dot on everything and radiayec10% as well. Thatâs why Iâm asking
I'm pretty sure it has an ICD and won't apply to multiple targets
Ya I wonât really run it in keys but right now my options are rezan, mirror, signet, clam and egg
Like, if an aoe can apply the dot to multiple targets, I've never seen it, and I've had my brand since first week.
So Iâm playing rezan and clam in keys
Oh and Iâve got the haste one
Everything except MotO
i would use rezan and crab probably idk
maybe mirror but mirror is cringe
i am very biased
rezan + mirror or rezan + crab until you get moto.
one lesser from heroic but my ret got 6 reroll time 
voodoo
no
its not a good aoe trinket
u run it for high tyrans where u can have 15 stacks on bosses
guys
do we still slam as filler without crushing force?
or only whirlwind and bloodthirst
Still use it
hello
is it safe to say that you have a bad aug in party if you do approx same dmg as without it? 
What if they just delete DH from the game?
The game would become good
DH is fine, problem is the fact that blizzard seems to throw all their philosophy outside the window when it comes to DH
Which set won for s4?
Season 2 set won
Check buff uptime for ebon might . Needs to be above 85% if you timed the key
is that a group or individual buff?
what trinkets are bis for m+?
i have 489 might. but no augry so ive been running signet cause i also dont have ember
signet is good when your teamates play along and you have non stop pulling
got 2
you need to git gud
in 1 pull
This is first week of the season where I feel I cant compete in damage meters with almost any class that is played in M+
Our out of CD damage is borderline pathetic, I do more damage on some pulls on my 468 monk then on my 486 main warrior.
but your monk hasnt got a brown template
people might get mad for you saying this 
i mean come on, not like warrior is in a bad place right now okay, tis just not true
transfusion
isnt that on everyone?
cuz usually when i reflect it
it either does very little damage
or it reflects the damage
and i don't receive any
but i never get these kinda numbers
nah the trash mob is 1 tar
Why would anybody get mad it is factual truth, monk can objectively do more damage just spamming spining crane kick, compared to our cleave rotation.
Warrior is pis at this time and if youre a warrior without a lego its even more ass.
If i cant get lego before push weeks fuck this game
I did not get leggo or auguary
I actually dont know wtf to do if i go another week without lego and still have not even got another 489 offhand
play arms, u dont need offhand >:)
Warrior is not optimal for M+ period.
Warrior can be fine in most keys if you actually have lego
its like a 20-30k dps upgrade
minimum to what im seeing
Yeah and if stars align
i guess if you are actually pushing high keys fury would be a bit better
sry for sarcasm I am just pissed just played 27 BRH and got blasted by DH in damage that died 8 times
Fury buffs when?!
never, they are clearly waiting for people to stop playing it
most people here do raid
not m+
as far as raid goes, warrior performs well
"anything else is just a minigame"
I mean there are some people that push very high keys in here
but yeah, warrior does ok in raid, so clearly no changes needed.
I feel you. Played a BRH with a ret earlier today. 5 item levels lower, no leggo. He matched me in overall damage - all aoe pad.
I did win on boss fights though
Feels so fucking bad. Im on the verge of just canceling my subscription.
M+ is why I play wow
Thing is, all those highkey warriors are good players.. And if those would hit another class guess what :)..
They would be even higher
then that ret didnt have very good trinkets
branch of tormented something (that from raid) would annhiilate you on st too
Overall tot with a big ilvl warrior with leggo.. me on my 47x monk
Then I have ring for sang and can sort affix
So what does the war bring rly? đ
i did this with my monk friend, same ilvl both (only 22 tho)
but he died on first bl pull
Dmgloggs wont say it all I know but still
Good monk player, is going to CRUSH warrior
so otherwise we doulve been about even
I played with one guy that had 340k on end of the Fall 26 last week
I think I was around 300k max
it was ToT or something and I basically reflected everything I could
Spell reflect was my 2nd damage ability at the end, and that should tell you enough about state of all of our other abilties.
But sure thing we have ppl like Critcake, Bizentein and other topwarriors that push high numbers and keys.. But again what would they do with a for exemple DH :)..
hello guys . Btw what ditch more dmg arms or fury after update ?
Non, go play ret
playing paladin after warrior . i cant i am stright
NOOO do not say that
Its true
we are better in idk. transmog or something
Compared to how warrior was a dmg GOD with 0 uti
we are 10000% going to be better next expansion tho
morthrang are you talking paladin is now better than warrior after the buff
or it was better before the buf f
huh ? why did they buff paladin and not fury if paladin was stronger than fury XD
i dont understand XD
Becasue paladin was doing slightly worse in raid
i dont play the game much just do 3-5 dungeon a week for fun that why my knowladge is 0 at the time
came to ask if i should play fury or arms but poeple said fury is still better for dungeons
then you should not be concerned about all of that, play what you find interesting
that what i am doing .
tbh the arms vs fury seems to be only relevant if you are pushing super high keys
there both warrior and i both like there style equialy and since i can change in a press of a button it better just to play the one that performe better
sorry to say this and i dont know if it only me but latly i feel that the warrior rotation is little brain dead and the cieling is very low . and i am doing little to nothing in manging the rotation . is other class like this
or is this exclusive to warrior ?
Most melee are like that
Except the fact that other melee dish out better numbers in most situations, and if not that - then they provide more utility.
i always find the game more enjoyable the challanging it is . i wish they make the roation harder . i mean i think they make it easier so you can focuse on boss and mechanic but now days addon dose everything for you
i enter with 0 knowladge on the dungeon and addon tell me what to inturapt when to inturapt when to move and what to attack
Then play rogue if you want engaging challenging rotation
which spec
Outlaw or assa, outlaw has more APM
If you want to play warrior, I think Fury is better in casual content because it looks cooler, and its more fun in stuff like solo content and BG because it has more survivability.
And if you want to play more interesting rotations, Enchantment Shaman and Windwalker monks are quite intersting to play and also classes with very high skill celling
Yeah enh is galaxy brain to play
Enh is intersting in ST quite hard in AOE because you have to change targets non stop to keep debuff up
I mean rotations are hard with cd managment stuns and such
If u play 20 keys pfc its easy
"Hard" parts come when u gotta prio dmg stuns interrupts suvival buttons and such
Which is why main rotation is easy to do hard to master
Hall of fame at 176
Kringel
Is it worth for us to cast Wrecking Throw on the Tinderal shields? My tooltip says 27k damage and even if its 400% buffed it doesnt look better than a bloodthirst?
I think it scales to around an empowered bloodbath for free basically?
So like
Still kinda decent
Cool, ty
In the rotation, where does axe on-use actually sit?
I can't see a toggle for it in the dps rotation guide, only for talents/tier
above WW
for ST?
Basically its like, last prio
From what i can tell
Better than filler, worse than most
Before or after cds
But depending on fight u move it
Ie on smoldo u delay it for intermission
Just be enraged for it
Need rampage haste
Do we use might of the ocean with avatar or is there a better way to use it?
Thanks.
Always
angyuwu needs a new look, race change suggestions welcomed
i love how this orc looks like
not orc
Cheers!
faction change
Do you want to make a serious warrior now? Or another abomination like that?
whats wrong with my dwarf
my other warrior
Terrible day to have eyes.
wrong
it's a great day to have eyes
I feel like I'd show you any of my chars and you'd have an issue
real
@eternal sundial i stopped wow since i reached 3k rating , nothing to do unlike some of you folks here log in the game scratshing your balls being afk to show off your mounts or leveling some useless alts .
That's nothing like your warriors and you know it! 
Old but gold
im not even 3k yet..
my balls
Someone once told me cool ur close to 3.1k
I didnt know i was
mb this season I get 3k
Idk i got 3k like week 3
ok syi has more score than me its actually over
And then on cba
its joever
You have more her on ur wow account
Automatic win
i just know im bad and it's joever
I was in a 25 rise 2nd week
Very cursed non timed key
im so close to 489
noob neck
Im 488.9 for 2 socket weeks in a row
I am big noober
why not 496 augury?
My 489 ones are rezan and branch which is playable 
god I wish augury existed
might and serpent are playable
I run that in keys
cause no augury
Big W
LLLL (same)
Tell that to lolxd guy doing 700 pulls
I too am a silly little joke
How many raid days is 700 pull
depends how fast u wipe and repull
If u wipe to bomba 1 on tindral and pull within 2min, u can get about 80 wipes in a 4h raid night
Skyline Victory forever
true victory
ceo sat them down
i think that's realistic
Can you imagine some guilds did a harder version of that fight with 10 less ilvls
i can yes
It is but if you speedrun 1k pulls
Iâm imagining what next
They also played 14h days
Iâm ignoring heat stroke training for this
Yeah but the skill gap also had to be immense
Obviously
482
but less sockies bro
no sockets no helm enchant no legendaries
If revvez was playing same boss same gear as I
no helm is very big
echo would kill current tindral in like 15 pulls i think
Uunat was a bit fake
I mean with them not rlly caring ye
Cause limit and echo had their mdi teams in sydney
Pieces still played well ofc but competition was slanted
award for worst timed raid release has to go to uunat
Wonder if it was mdi globals or rwf where theys go
Psure just race
Youd hope so
How do I sim the leggo? just gives me a place holder stat now which is useless
and if they do, they can just move mdi/tgp two weeks earlier in the ssn and put the mini tier aftrr
What's your goal here
you dont have it and want to sim it or whag
Big ol rip
I want to see how big uppgrade it is
Go gear compare
11k dps normally
since the changes
select the correct one
kk ty
If u wanna see dmg diff between pre and post change, you gotta run two diff sims with weekly and latest respectively
Weekly will soon have the updated one in, tho
(maybe it already has)
should be more
this is not normally
ty
I dont recall the uppie after change i just say number
obliterate
wtf liar
Does hc have bigger chance for legendary than normal lfr?
The highest chance out of those 3
It compounds the odds from nm and lfr
As per blizz u have same chance if you do
hc
or
lfr nm hc
Hello brothers
Recently, I heard a rumor in a community that the buff stacking of Cataclysmic Signet Brand trinkets can be done in advance before the battle begins. Is this true?
Havent heard bout it lmk if u find a strat
Only thing that I know that you can do inside a raid/dungeon that'll start combat for you to stack Signet Brand is Worn Doll and I don't think it lasts enough to get a full stack.
Hey guys do we macro our main 1.5 min cds together? Ty
no
Any reason or just no?
no
you wanna press OF first with reck up
Ok thanks mate đ
essentially you press avatar when your Avatar proc from pressing OF has ~1s left
Makes sense thanks mate đâĽď¸
If we are running titanic rage (odynâs fury enrages you) that first odyns fury will do non enraged damage right? If it worth getting enraged prior to sending that first odyns?
Thank you! Oh shit itâs crit, love the stream dude keep slamming
is the axe aoe capped or damage is split or whats going on ?
on use is split
but scales with number of dots consuned
so is it worth it to save for bigger packs when cds are down or is it minor and just full send on cd
90% of the time, more total uses is better than fewer good uses
The time you hold stuff quickly adds up
so just full send if in doubt

we're sub 600 still
1.2% wipe yesterday
SURELY dead sunday
I macro roar with odyns for m+
share this technology
how do you macro two on gcd buttons together
/roar
/cast Odyn's Fury
what do u wipe to even
oly moly
use the dogshit rezan toy from bfa
Huge tech honestly
Even better tech
12%
almost all our wipes from all raid night yesterday way at 12%
I think that's 2nd set team 1 flying
3rd feathers then
yes
is that the gate set
correct
I personally don't die
but idk what's happening tbh
I think people not stacking roots correctly before gate
and get owned by beam
so we lack people
is that the set that you need to dps down without feathers
cause you should have ava for that and blast burst
or else
ava is like 4s on cd once they spawn
send it a bit earlier on the shield then
shimmy left
its shimmy right you knobhead
ok
prance forward

this guy doesnât even know the dance!!
sashay left
Hi fury friends! Quick question, when aoeing large packs are you guys changing targets to sub35% targets for extra damage? Or is it not worth chasing targets?
Havenât seen anything on this in the guides
Btw hi Critcake! Grats on the mythic tindral kill! You are my warrior hero!
guys i was just looking for sim rotation and for some reason the bloodcraze buff apear wrong ? is this glitch effect the sim or what is going on
Usually, you want to focus the priority targets (for example, the Twisted Abomination in Everbloom, that one is dangerous and needs to die asap). Switching between targets also drops your haste buff from Frenzy, so I wouldn't recomment swapping targets willy-nilly.
Ok thanks! I am been reviewing most of the top m+ warriors and I believe my gear and stats are where they need to be, but I just canât find that last missing piece. I am running with guys that are pushing 26s but my damage seem like itâs on average 30-50k (overall) lower. I posted a log review in hopes of some help. As of right now the only think I can think of is maybe I am poorly placing my cds in the m+runs
Use a mouseover macro for bloodthirst and pummel and execute.
first bt of the fight didnt crit so it shows till the BB is used
Ooo yeah thatâs a kickass idea! Do you have to keep your mouse on target the whole time or can you move the mouse off target and just attack your current target?
Signet would do it. Simming as human or void elf would do it. Maybe even using rage as your flask.
O nice! Can you send me your spare Lego?
Right there with you. One guy in my guild has two, another got it on his alt, meanwhile I'm still sitting here like đđđ
Second warrior or ret pal
on dk alt
Ove started killing fyrakk on my pal
gotta do full clear for lessers
my dk had 2 heroic fyrakk kills
and did one heroic run this week got 5 lessers
and leggo
can't find a m+ group since this week started đŚ
I couldnt even get into a +18 last week
Weird
last week we couldnt do shit also
I get it
but i did get into groups
Idgaf about io tbh
notgood affixes
Affixes would seem alright for s4
Fated raids+affixes for m+
S1-s3 just fort/tyra
Some affixes are good and add to the dungeon, but some are absolutely fuckin stupid
Sanguine, incorp, afflicted, bolstering need to die
I honestly canât believe sanguine still exists
I think it should be random. You enter the dungeon. You might get fort, you might get tyr. Get rid of the affixes themselves
just use your displacement 4head
cant really prepare for that
Exactly
what if with this random generation, affli comes out
I do think weâd all be much more bored in M+ than we think without any affixes
noone can do the affix
bring back grievous 
necrotic was also lit
Would be cool if it became fort or tyrann and just a seasonal affix
idk, it just rotates which classes are taken with the current meta picks
turns out not warrior
these gimmick affixes are not the issue, my biggest issue is that they can completely fuck you over or that some classes literally can't do anything against them
I mean no thatâs not the only issue, the main issue with affixes is the massive discrepancy in difficulty
Leading to some weeks literally being +2-3 key lvls vs others
Maw of Souls should always be a dungeon to make up for any shitty ones that season
I tried a 25 today for the first time
now i see what guys mean that 25 is different game
Fucked up on boss, lusted, died - bricked key even if it was going smooth before
no lust = deadge
have a big pull in m+, have like 5 mobs die in a spot and one big boy stays alive bc bigger health pool, can't be kicked/knocked and casts a 4s cast in sanguine
and you just stand there
sanguinius best healer
delete sanguine
Sanguine is dog water
is volcanic still in the rotation?
Yeah
quaking is viines now
See quaking to me was a good affix when compared to sanguine/incorp etc
entangling is way easier than quaking
It encouraged awareness and decision making
Ye quake is dead
But it was fairly minor
compared to those, yes
but overall still pretty bad
I donât agree with anything that allows you to patchwerk M+
some great overlaps with quaking
storming is a good balance imo
Thatâs just removing skill requirements into who does the most ST uninterrupted damage without considering positioning etc
not too hard, and you still have to somewhat look out for it
Yeah storming is a good affix
why not make dungeon themselves engaging
Someday youll play quaking on an arcane mage and go batshit insane
It can fuck you, but if youâre aware and make good decisions youâre golden
Storming is annoying as fuck
The dungeons are engaging, theyâre not engaging by run 100 and never will be
healer affix, don't care
It's rewards is not being assfucked
Affixes are supposed to be annoying and change playstyle slightly, thatâs the purpose
why not make affixes reward you for doing something
instead of fuck you differently each week
Storming is a hard affix if youâre bad and a non affix if youâre on it
Because the purpose of the affix is to change the dungeon difficulty and not make it so stati
Make an affix where storm bolt does 5million damage
Iâm telling you if we go the fort/tyrann only route mythic plus will die
a weekly affix rotation that changes per dungeon could be cool
and how is making a rewarding affix not changing the dungeon
makes weeks not completely useless for pushers
It will become so incredibly boring and straight forward that it doesnât keep attention
You want multiple, rotating rewarding affixes?
Why? So you can see a +30 instead of a +27? Thats just an ego issue, and the upper people will still stay 4-5 ahead of you
Only tyran/fort rotation a week
run +3s 
The problem is the discrepancy in difficulty
With random affix upgrade
i dont want to be declined a group just because my main class cant do anything to help with affixes
So every time u swap ur key u get a random affix
Well thatâs not the only reason
But tyran/fort rotation
There HAS to be something besides just tyrann and fort or you will quit after week 5-6 and come back for the final 2 weeks every season, M+ would die
that wouldn't need the complete removal of affixes, rather a more balanced set of affixes
Blizz should make it so if it's a "meta" comp, the dungeon adds an extra affix. Incentivize different groups
And lets say some affixes will give more points due to difficulty
Would avoid not getting queues into "afflicted"
Or or whatever
Can fortified bolstering happen btw?
yes
whoa
I guess blizz will make it happen anyways
that sounds insane
Yeah the lack of difference in points to affix is so weird
I doubt this linear weekly affix shit will continue
Stormed out of hyrja was great
For super high pushing ya
People filling out their vaults will do every week
But you could fill out your vault at +20 even with every affix
I know people really hate hearing this, but the game needs to be balanced around the potential that can be done when played correctly, not poor play
I dont know, trying to balance everything around an infinite scaling system sounds kinda bonk to do
Encouraging people to skip weeks of trying to do harder content is bad, and itâs bad across the board, even if youâre semi casual but want to do a +25, it sucks when 2-3 weeks in a row you cannot even attempt it
Ya and thatâs what the majority of the player base does - 20s or lower lmao
Because the reality is if my team can only do up to 26/27 one week but we do 29s on push week, what chance does a pug have at a 26 this week?
Most people do 20s, and that is it. For portal and loot. The majority does sub that.
Doesnât need to be balanced around it then, because itâs doable regardless of affix or class or spec
There has never ever ever been a time where any class or spec could not complete their weekly keys because of affix
So it doesnât even need to be discussed because itâs a non issue
Well, then it doesnt sound like there is a problem at all
The affix difficulty issue doesnât rear its head until 27/28s
But encouraging players to not even attempt to improve their score or challenge themselves every few weeks is poor design, so some of the affixes just need to be removed
I get everyone want things to be catered towards their level of play, but the game should be adjusted around the majority
I donât think the niche issue of âthis week I can do a 30 but next week only a 28â is a problem that exists for the vast majority of the player base so itâs also kind of not worthy of discussion
What adjustments does the majority stopping at 20 need though?
By this logic the game is perfect and affixes shouldnât change at all then
it can always be better
You canât have both arguments existing at the same time
Because theyâre conflicting arguments
No, they just shouldnât look at it specifically from the lens of 28+ pushers
Theyâve fucked the game bad by catering all the systems to WF and Hall of Fame guilds instead of a majority of the player base already
If affixes need to be changed because non push weeks are bad, then that only affects pushers anyway. If affixes need to be changed to make you 20-25 min weekly 20s easier, you need to get over it, this is an MMO
lol
What in the game thatâs been changed for WF/HOF guilds affects the majority of the player base
thats just entitled
this is an MMO is not an argument for anything
Time investment matters in MMOs
Not being able to trade gear at certain ilvls unless you already have similar ilvl - even if itâs your friendâs BiS and an item you wonât use more than a week
Not being able to raid mythic cross server until enough cutting edge guilds clear
Thatâs to protect you from being forced to lose loot by the way
Changed in TWW already
Yeah itâs not changed now
It canât be changed now without a massive coding rework
How would I be forced to lose loot
Hence why itâs changing in their next big coding rework
how do you know all of this and are so sure about everything xD
Sure it could, they literally turn it off after the first 200 clears of fyrak
No one can bully you into giving up loot
They could turn it off rn
No one can do that now â ď¸
âŚits a 20 year old game with 20 years of coding
so they can't change the number of required kills from each faction
to a smaller number
Listen man, if youâre this upset you didnât get loot on run 1 of an infinitely spammable dungeon you hate MMOs
and apply it with a weekly reset?
Not WoW
cause of coding
Or just code it so the number of kills doesnât impact the cross-server aspect
HOF closes in a week, is this even worth a concern at this point?
Hello
Whatâs good Mad
What did i miss for the daily
Dog itâs not a coding issue though so Iâm not sure what youâre on about
All good i'm on holiday sup !
Reading fury chat in discord is my daily minutes of fun
Once 200 guilds clear they go change a 1 to a 0 manually to unlock it - thatâs not a huge code change lmao
Peeps arguing the game should be balanced around 20s and poor players because theyâre upset they canât do the higher keys/mythic bosses without realizing the gap would remain the same just with higher numbers regardless
And is only related to the kills because they want it to be
And doing weeklies on my laptop while on holiday @restive peak imagine that!
Hahaha attttaaaa boy
Well itâs over in a week and not an issue beyond this patch, so I guess youâre getting what you asked for my brother!
Donât even understand how that became a relevant conversational point based on the prior discussing. But it is indeed changing moving forward and this is the last patch of it
So kinda a moot point
Dog you know nothing. You said it would require a âhuge coding changeâ to do it
just getting that last word in i see đ
Moreso just realizing you completely moved away from the initial conversation onto some weird, irrelevant portion of the game we werenât even discussing
But if you wanna feel like that, go nuts my man.
how is that portion of the game irrelevant
also a system that adjusted points based on affixes would just get abused into the ground. Every affix has comps that specifically counter it, and the comps that counter high point value shit would just become meta
Except bolstering fortified, but blizz even allowing that to happen is straight up trolling
Our initial conversation was never even about raiding or HOF lockouts lmao
How is that any different from current
How are you this stupid? Itâs a genuine question, like you cannot be serious LMAO
No top team does this wtf?
Itâs such an out of touch, uneducated take; NONE OF US swap our classes week to week for title push
Because it would be Blizz artificially deciding some affixes are worth more than others
Thatâs not what I implied would happen at all
I run my same 5 peeps no matter the affix or anything, and we get title regardless, and so do many others
Okay but if it was implemented today. How would that change the current top comp
You are not gatekept from title or high keys because youâre a warrior dude
Just teams with comps that counter high-point value affixes would thrive during weeks with those affixes
And get the titles
And allowing cross mythic would not mean you have CE
It would depend on which affixes got thrown more points and how many
Certain teams do that now
The current top meta team can handle all affixes




