#fury

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wild mural
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this is a mental killer tho

unreal onyx
rugged palm
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Oof

past pivot
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Weapon imo but sim it. Signet loses value unless it's a long fight

unreal onyx
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tindral making this graph a long boi

cursive hazel
wild mural
unreal onyx
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odd pull, if we didn't lose 2-3 people in P2/P3 we could've killed it

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missed like 3.5% before enrage

upbeat sentinel
unreal onyx
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we didn't make it to p3 pre-nerf

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but p1 is decently easier now

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p2 is not nerfed as hard as p1 but still easier definetly

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but that's just my opinion

wild mural
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yeah we're making it through p1, not consistently tho

flat sapphire
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I feel like all the people buying hc fyrakk boosts are getting into hc groups now

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cause I used to be able to join 1 group kill fyrakk done

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today ive been trying to kill fyrakk since I got home probably 4 hours

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and people cant do mechanics

regal grotto
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It took me about an hour in my pug too and in the end it was me a tank and a retpally 3 manning it from about 5% with no seeds

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Was like a 20 man group

ember apex
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fyrakk is one of those bosses where a few good players can really carry a lot

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sark was harder b/c u cant carry a raid wide soak

wild mural
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who gonna pay for my race change to nelf

regal grotto
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Yo mama

wild mural
open prairie
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large groups are usually made to compensate for deadweight

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tbh

olive wraith
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Idk it depends

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If someone bad gets a line

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Could wipe

wild mural
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true

open prairie
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its funny since line is

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stand still

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for 2 seconds

olive wraith
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Well it’s more when the heal ads are up

open prairie
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yeah i meant mostly

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blasting other people

olive wraith
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When ads aren’t up you could probably grief the line and recover

open prairie
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although on heroic you can probably tank 2-3 line hits

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and be fine

ember apex
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a lot of ppl get F*ed up w/ 1 line

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we have like 925k HP

open prairie
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hc lines dont hurt

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unless you take like 4

ember apex
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like if someone is low from eating a swirly and then gets lined, that could be it

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ive seen someone get swirly + line comboed

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ive def seen that

celest sierra
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No data on the embers % on there side …. 🤔

wild mural
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ofc

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also there's a prt scr button on your kb

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maybe use it

celest sierra
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I opened it via my phone haha

wild mural
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it almost feels like we're making progress on Tindral

dusty brook
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Where should I ask for help with my Sim or my items? Are there some stats that I should aim for? (Tempo, crit, Master)
My biggest struggle is to narrow down the items that I want to sim together.

quartz bough
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Vers is better Or crit?

wild mural
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wow odyns fury actually does so much damage

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(my damage to roots on tindral)

olive wraith
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How can that be true if fury does no damage clueless

wild mural
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real

sinful spoke
wild mural
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i would have thought TR was way ahead of it

unreal onyx
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nah

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people said S3 bad

wild mural
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axe kinda pumps too

wild mural
frank dawn
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WRONG

wild mural
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I’m never wrong

frank dawn
regal grotto
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S3 has good burst aoe

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Roots don’t last long enough for us to lose dps on sustained aoe

upbeat plume
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do you need a partner to do the glowspore grip for the legendary?

warm crag
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you need a crafter

upbeat plume
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but to get the resource do you have to have another person?

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from the blooms themselves

covert blaze
warm crag
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oh that

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you technically dont need one but it is advised so you dont have to do 40 superblooms

silver dawn
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I had to do it by myself and it took forever. Don’t be like me. Have a friend.

dusty brook
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what is better. crafted 486 or 489 crit/mastery legs?

warm crag
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dunno sim it

clever belfry
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balls

upbeat plume
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huh its not giving me the item to do it

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supposed to be something I use on the party memeber right?

storm rune
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You'll get it eventually, it's random

warm crag
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you get it from the caches

upbeat plume
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oh I see

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I understand but this seems entirely too convoluted lol

storm rune
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DF crafting in a nutshell lol

upbeat plume
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oh nice you get it from the weekly cache too glad I didnt do the superbloom quest on tuesday

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the superbloom cache that is

fading sky
clever belfry
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ok kings

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i need a name for my warrior

young swan
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creraria

clever belfry
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she is there

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saved

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on

young swan
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poogers

clever belfry
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i will not go back to fuwy wawwiow cwewawia tho

young swan
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andaxe

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cause ur a wariror

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with axe

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:3

clever belfry
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REAL

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(i usually use sword in tmog)

young swan
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(who cares axe havers rise up)

clever belfry
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man im at a loss here...

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its hard

mossy fox
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whats wrong with andaxd

limber verge
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guys

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why is fury so bad

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in m+

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rn

clever path
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Its not

clever belfry
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its same as being a nameclasser

gleaming siren
limber verge
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really ?

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m+ subcreation says

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fury is

clever belfry
limber verge
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its b

clever path
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Isnt subcreation like hella outdated

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And says both arms and fury are b tier

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Pretty sure its outdated

olive wraith
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Fury isn’t meta but it’s not bad

glacial steeple
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Are the crafted 2 handers the better weapon out of the other craftables? I am having zero luck with drops.

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Im sorry, I forgot Sword in there

clever path
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If you have your other embellishments go for it

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But its very easy to get a hero track wep from dingeons

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And 3 ilvl isnt worth two sparks in my opinion

glacial steeple
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Yes, I have the bracers, a flavor packet, and the necklace.

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Ive had zero luck with a weapon let alone two.

limber verge
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what would u

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rank

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fury warr

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rn

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as in tiers

clever path
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In m+?

oblique trail
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F tier

subtle rock
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So I see the pin about the new leggo changes, use it when enraged, which is almost always but not during CDs. So during an opener do i rampage use it then pop cds or the opposite?

limber verge
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yes

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in m+

clever belfry
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F(ury) Tier

unkempt stone
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how much of a dps loss is it for single target if i dont use Spear?

oblique trail
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Like -1.2%~

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But even so I'd still always use it on Smolderon

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Nymue/Volcoross you can get away with not using it if you're really lazy

unkempt stone
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so then im pretty much good at using Roar then

oblique trail
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For any boss apart from Smolderon yes

thorny bramble
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Aside from cloak and bracers, what should I use my crafted gear on?

oblique trail
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Jewelry are great pieces to craft

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Guaranteed socket and exact stats you'd want

silk wharf
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^

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So many essences now can start crafting offspec pieces.

foggy urchin
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the warrior, I mean

clever belfry
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fuck no

foggy urchin
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ruud

clever path
# limber verge in m+

Mid to low A in damage and prio damage. C in utility. With the right comp BS is strong.

limber verge
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could I do

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20+ keys

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with fury?

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thats my main

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id like to get lego axe aswell

lusty slate
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any spec can do that

oblique trail
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You can play any spec and class up till like 27-28s without issue

limber verge
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really?

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oh ok

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because sometimes people dont accept

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in keys

clever belfry
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but 28s are doable on any comp really

oblique trail
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Yeah it's a bit of an overstatement

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There are some specs that'll have a way easier time doing it compared to others

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But it's doable

keen kindle
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It's viable at least

storm rune
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20s are like the new 16s

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Shouldn't be problematic to get in to a group at that level

olive wraith
frank dawn
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Getting invited to keys even at 18-20 is hard as a dps. It’s a lot harder as a warrior on incorp and afflicted weeks

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Basically have to have a group or run your own keys on those weeks if you don’t want to apply to groups for 40 minutes to maybe get invited

upbeat plume
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I know this has probably been said before but god damn some aspects of this leggo quest are fucking miserable

frank dawn
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It’s dog shit

upbeat plume
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like why the fuck does the rare hunter quest item not be able to be used in combat, what the fuck does that add to the quest other then enormus frustration lol

storm rune
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idk, usually takes me a couple minutes to get into an 18-20

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unless you're just getting started this season and don't have the io yet, but after a week or two you should be able to fix that

frank dawn
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It’s better for me on non incorp/afflicted weeks

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But anytime those are around it takes me fucking forever to get invited

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And I usually give up after 15-20 minutes and go do something else lol

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I don’t really push so I’ve only got 2700 io, but idk. Still a bitch lol

storm rune
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wildly different experience than me then, I pretty much get auto-accepted most of the time

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maybe it's a server thing, idk how LFG works between clusters anymore

hard widget
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Not a whole lot of people play +18/19 its weird you dont get invited

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However there is very few tanks this week, so maybe they’re waiting for a tank?

glad coyote
hard widget
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Yes

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Nobody likes sanguine

clever path
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i like it

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seeing a dr'd mob casting a 5 second channel

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in sanguine

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full healing

storm rune
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you're full of hot takes apparently

clever path
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it was sarcasm

clever path
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they should stop with these affixes

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genuinely

glad coyote
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need to stop affixs that are class based imo

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i dont mind affixs but every class needs to be able to deal with them

clever path
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its like i cant wait to see next weeks affixes!!! oh its sanguine incorp i want to kms

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sanguine just makes the dungeon longer for no reason

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there is gonna be at least one mob thats gonna sit there in sanguine with a 5 second channel

glad coyote
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yeah but sanguine can be managed

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if your group is struggling with killing mobs equally than its a manage problem not a affix

clever path
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sure it can be managed but it's a cringe affix

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no one likes

glad coyote
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i agree with you but its way better than incorp and afflicted

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like bring back fire orbs ffs

clever path
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bolstering is turbo cringe as well

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makes dungeons like eb

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so cringe

glad coyote
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its better not that it falls off

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bolstering is not cringe

clever path
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if abom bolsters in a 28

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u are cooked

glad coyote
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learn to stop dps

clever path
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how do you kill the abomination if u stop dps

glad coyote
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you let the stacks fall off

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so you dont get 5 stacks than boom

clever path
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and u dont time the key cause the timer is giga tight

glad coyote
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i mean you can skip a handful of the adbombs

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theres only 1 that really needs to get killed before the 3rd boss

olive wraith
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The fact that the flowers proc bolster and burst is so dumb

glad coyote
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that is true

sinful spoke
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and wtf is this

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telling me to go crit gems

oblique trail
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Crit is just good for AoE

lusty slate
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I don't find bolster more annoying than things like affli, but I don't want to stop dps and it's making me so it's cringe

oblique trail
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Although keep in mind that Tindral is very short bursts of AoE, with predominantly ST otherwise, and Fyrakk also has largely ST portions of the fights

jovial ocean
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is there any way to deal with incorporeal as fury?

oblique trail
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Outside of stuns/kicks, only shattering throw

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We don't have frequent permanent solutions to them

restive peak
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ST deeply matters, do not sim AOE for raid bosses

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Like you legit run ST trinkets as warr on fyrakk, and you can run ocean on tindral if you want but you're not the main root killer and you're gimping your ST

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Both fights will stack your brand to 15, and augury is BIS for ST and AOE anyway

jovial ocean
oblique trail
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It is what it is

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For pugging I pick shattering just as a backup because I trust literally no one

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But in coordinated groups its not really needed

restive peak
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If your group is relying on you for that affix, you're fucked brother

flint glacier
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yo guys, theres a haste cap for fury warriors rn?

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im 30%

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Critical Strike = 23%/ Haste = 30% / Mastery = 49%

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based in my stats, im thiking if i should craft my 2nd ring with versa/mastery or haste/mastery

modest condor
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do a gear compare sim to find out

vivid peak
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Is gear compare the best way to see which crafted item needs to have stats reroll?

clever path
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Robot

burnt stone
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-actions.trinkets=use_item,name=fyralath_the_dreamrender,if=dot.mark_of_fyralath.ticking&(buff.enrage.up|buff.bloodlust.up)

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Hello brothers
What do you think about modifying the legendary weapon APL like this?

When there is a Bloodlust buff, even if there is no Enrage buff, the haste is already high, so the casting speed of the legendary weapon is fast. If there is no Bloodlust, it is cast when there is an Enrage buff.

frank dawn
oblique trail
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If you already have the pieces, Top Gear is also very useful

vivid peak
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Only reason why I ask is comparing my stats with others. Idk if my stats are whack or im hitting a DR somewhere

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These are my stats right now, others have much more haste and crit somehow

oblique trail
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Don't worry about comparing yourself to other people and their stats

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It's very likely that 99.9% of people just used top gear

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And equipped whatever simmed best

modest condor
gilded pawn
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I’m still a believer of just using it after cds/lust

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Not like it’s gonna cost a use

oblique trail
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Depends entirely on the fight

gilded pawn
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True

burnt stone
clever belfry
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pensivetoes

modest condor
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i think that unless your kill time requires you to do it earlier, you should just wait until reck runs out with using your lego

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if you need to use it early then yeah probably just after your first ramp

burnt stone
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When I performed various simulations, casting lego when all the buffs such as Avatar, Odin, and FB were finished gave the highest results.
However, if you need to use lego as quickly as possible at the start of the battle, you may be concerned about when to use it.
Because it takes quite a bit of time to get the Enrage buff without casting Reck.

still basin
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do you prio sudden death procs as fury?

burnt stone
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In general, BB is used over Execute.
However, if the AJ buff is about to expire or the sudden death buff is about to expire, Exe is cast first.

sullen tendon
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im 100% convinved that the embers do nothing

vivid peak
gilded pawn
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That’s what haste does

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It lets you cast more

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Whether those casts are impactful is another question

oblique trail
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If there's a big difference in your casts, it's more than your haste difference

hardy cargo
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(he was the only one with kick up)

hazy goblet
gilded pawn
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once your avatar is over you are safe to leggo

restive peak
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7% 1 seed away bois

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Rakky down soon, surely mythic gives leggo

clever path
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surely

dapper goblet
covert blaze
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maybe he is managing his rage better than you in some way and that can also lead to better gameplay/more casts overall

hardy cargo
noble frost
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turning off add ons dont seem to work so well

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im still suffering from this if anyone knows a fix or something

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of course not on a frost but on a fury

thorny lily
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when i use leggo on aoe oppener?

whole pier
dapper goblet
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think defualt its 300 but can change it

covert blaze
sinful spoke
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almost there

olive wraith
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Next pull

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100%

tulip swallow
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buff warrior and he's dead gladge

sinful spoke
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real

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remove leggo dot nerf

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and its dead

tulip swallow
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We have double ret double warrior + 1 dk keks

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one legendary

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off meta comp

lean valley
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What's THE best trinkets for M+

sinful spoke
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augury and might

small estuary
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hi

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what should i be stacking?

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verse?

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the guide kind of confused me

severe plover
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Hi Kibra, please sim your character 🙂

small estuary
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what sim should i do?

blissful kestrel
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33% mastery monka

small estuary
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I do damage

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ezpz

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squeezy lemons

covert blaze
sinful spoke
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too much crit

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like way too much

burnt stone
dapper goblet
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🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🧎‍♂️

burnt stone
sullen dove
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cowfarmers is gajeel's dad

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yea or nay

burnt stone
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If you do not use Bloodlust at the start of the battle and need to use a legendary weapon right away for unavoidable reasons.

1.reck-charge. Later, cast ramp to get enrage buff and use legendary weapon.

  1. Create rage with only BT and slam without using reck, then cast ramp, get enrage buff, and then use a legendary weapon.

  2. Should I just use a legendary weapon without enrage buff

  3. Should I use a legendary weapon after using up all CDs such as avatar

I'm testing which one has the highest dps.
Because there are quite a few moments like that when playing M+.

sinful spoke
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does the leggo even get affected by enrage?

sullen dove
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its the haste buff from enrage

sinful spoke
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its not one of our abilities

sullen dove
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is why u use it

sinful spoke
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ah

light nova
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Dancing blades or Titanic rage for m+?

left perch
olive wraith
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I prefer DB

sullen dove
sullen dove
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not rly gimping anything in like a +20 taking any talent

lean valley
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Is going down from 50% mast to 43% bad?

modest condor
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depends on if doing so makes you sim higher

rugged hornet
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does the damage bonus increase from the last boss in BRH affect leggo damage?

modest condor
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it should

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can always check a log

lean valley
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I heard I should not sim dungeon slice what should I sim?

wispy thistle
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@lean valley are you simming for raid or m+?

lean valley
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I feel like I am doing less in both now :(

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M+

clever path
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sick raid night

olive wraith
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Slice is ok

hallow hull
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Ember of Nullification....is this bait? Because of the verse right? Its beating out my Might of the Ocean trink.

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In sims

sullen dove
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its good for aoe

hallow hull
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Im simming ST though

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lol that's what's getting me.

sullen dove
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eh i mean idk passive strength verse prolly better than the strength on a timer and passive crit

silk wharf
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your vers could be very low, your crit could be very high.

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Perhaps sim variance.

olive wraith
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Do you have leggo

hallow hull
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The Verse trink is 557 DPS higher for me.

olive wraith
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Vers is good for leggo

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Might be why

hallow hull
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Hmm

sudden tusk
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you have like no vers

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is why

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yesus

sullen dove
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try simming verse/mast gems or mast/verse

hallow hull
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Yeah I need different ring

sullen dove
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ngl havent seen red gems on anyone in a while

hallow hull
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I did. I simmed allot of different gems. It still says Crit/haste lol

north walrus
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How much vers is a good amount to have? Like generaly

sullen dove
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leggo moment

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idk most ppl tend to have around 15-20% just kinda naturally

olive wraith
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I’m surprised sims aren’t forcing vers onto you

sullen dove
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sim'll be more accurate than that but thats just kinda where it gets

hallow hull
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I just got the Lego today. So my whole world is all jacked up

north walrus
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Certain amount of just get all vers i can

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Got like 19

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%

olive wraith
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I mean I’m sitting at 23%

hallow hull
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@olive wraith Yah me too. I specifically try to fish for Verse and it keeps telling me Haste and Crit/haste

olive wraith
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No leggo

north walrus
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Going to change gems into mastery/vers instead om mastery/ haste i think

olive wraith
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I have yet to see someone sim for above 30% haste fwiw

hallow hull
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I'm gonna run another Droptimizer for dungs and see what comes up. I know I have way too much crit. But sims keep saying go with it.

keen forum
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anyone else here actually liked M tindral?

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or am i sick

dapper goblet
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you're sick

restive peak
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1.2% and our DH dashed into fire with seed....

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AFTER the blaze roar was over

ashen socket
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Real chads like mythic tindy

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betas don't like tindy

meager gyro
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Degenerate prog move to play mover dh

sullen dove
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i dont think theres a non mover dh build

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inertia is just way less moving

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1 fel rush every time you have an immo aura

meager gyro
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I know little about dh as haven’t played since rework

hallow sphinx
covert blaze
upbeat sentinel
sullen dove
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click on like all rankings near the top

hard widget
restive peak
dapper goblet
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voodoo

sullen dove
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dh players...

balmy shore
compact knot
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I JUST GOT PUSHED INTO FIRE 😦

keen forum
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we just killed it tonight. had like 100 pulls on it prenerf and just killed it today after like 287 or so. kinda wondering how long it would've taken for us if it didn't get nerfed

restive peak
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Yeeeeppppppp

compact knot
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NO SHOOOOTTT

restive peak
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I was absolutely cranking too

keen forum
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lol

dapper goblet
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voodoo

balmy shore
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voodoo

keen forum
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we had a 3% wipe to tindral last wednesday due to a missed tank mushroom. that was fun

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or was that yesterday? idk time is fake

ashen socket
vivid peak
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How does one sim different runes?

hallow sphinx
restive peak
sudden tusk
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arms is feeling pretty nice on fyrakk

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esp once you get to 2 target the collosus

scarlet swift
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if i log in on tuesdays and do a quick LFR for the axe, am i fucking my chances at normal and heroic? or is it its own loot table still

sullen dove
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idk why dont u ask my mom spongie

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but no normal and heroic are its own thing

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u can lfr > norm > hero

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or just heroic and u dont need to do the other two

scarlet swift
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i know top-down is more efficient, but i cant just do heroic fyrakk day 1, and im lazy

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ok cool, ty

ashen socket
dapper goblet
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voodoo successful

covert blaze
covert blaze
# vivid peak How does one sim different runes?

copy="Primal Whetstone -> Attack Power"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="Buzzing Rune -> Crit"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3
copy="Howling Rune -> Haste"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Hissing Rune -> Mastery"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3

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do and advanced sim, paste your string and add these lines after the string

sudden tusk
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gonna make P1 way more consistant for our group

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the back loaded damage isnt as important for us rn

covert blaze
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what's your prog looking like?

sudden tusk
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just started cages so very early

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we've only had 2 and a half nights on it

covert blaze
devout apex
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is lariat worth using over shadowflame patch in M+ if i have full sockets?

slim coral
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Can’t live for shit

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Compared to fury

sudden tusk
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yeah its still far worse for keys

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its not even a live thing you just either do big aoe

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or big ST

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you have no in between

slim coral
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Yeah that too

north edge
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i seem to do more in keys

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as arms

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than fury

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atleast in the 20s keys, have yet to get into a group for a higher key

sudden tusk
#

suprised there isnt someting tacked onto fueled by violence that reduces the amount of damage bleeding mobs do to you as a dr like warpaint

sudden tusk
#

IP is a decent tool but its a terrible way to attempt to add DR to a class that really jsut needs base value

#

its already down bad enough with a 2h less of stam and a way higher damage loss to take the stam talent in the tree

slim coral
#

after all warrior should be one of the tankiest classes in the game

#

but I think fire is rn

#

fire warlock dk and ret

eternal sundial
#

Cope

#

Lariat vers wrist gaming

shy knot
#

Fury is super tanky

#

I did max 21 only but nothing felt dangerous outside of 1 shots

#

You just ER throuth everything

#

Arms is a wet paperbag

vast trail
#

How do we immune roots on tindral? apart from avatar?

hot girder
#

Escape Artist : )

oblique trail
#

You wont need any external sources for roots, as long as you don't extend Avatar with OF

hallow hull
#

Anyone know of a GOOD Mark of Fyr'alath WA that just shows CD and stacks? Waigo is filled with goofy WA's that do more than needed. Or simply not enough.

calm mantle
#

Anyone else enjoy the salty whispers you get after you leave someones key?

eternal sundial
#

Idk i never leave first

oblique trail
#

No because I don't leave someones key midway through

elfin oyster
#

can't relate

calm mantle
#

Ah I guess you just never get those keys that are completely nightmares.

oblique trail
#

I do

#

But it's a bigger waste of time to leave midway through

#

Instead of just finishing the key

eternal sundial
#

I just generally have others leave

#

I left one key first this expansion

#

After 3rd wipe on yazma cuz tank didnt move boss at all

#

After telling him 400 times

calm mantle
oblique trail
#

Don't want to be that guy but when you pug just prepare for the worst

late cradle
vast trail
#

TY

calm mantle
#

Well I usually prepare enough time to time it especially when the party are generally ilvl enough for it. But I ain't about doing all the work in a pug. I was onnly 10k dps lower then both dps combined.

calm mantle
calm mantle
oblique trail
calm mantle
#

yes.

unreal onyx
oblique trail
#

You don't always want to stun every target in front of you, and sometimes just want to stun 1 specific target

late cradle
oblique trail
#

Or if they're not in range for Shockwave

calm mantle
#

Range stun incorps to give party time to deal with it, range stunning interrupts you can't get to.

oblique trail
#

On top of having an extra stun worst case when you've already used your other crowd control

unreal onyx
#

And a „quick key“ doesn’t sound like a key you can even brick

calm mantle
shy knot
#

Pugging is the worst experience in the game

#

For keys

unreal onyx
#

Raid pugging us a worse experience imo

#

Unless you wanna pug semi-high keys

oblique trail
#

Depending on the key level, as a DPS you can mostly carry a key

#

Which makes it infinitely less painful than some pug raids I've been in

calm mantle
pulsar prawn
oblique trail
#

Oh yeah I know

unreal onyx
#

In raid you join a „aotc only“ or x/9M lead raid and you wipe 10 times on hc nymue with bot dps

pulsar prawn
calm mantle
oblique trail
#

But multiple times I've had 2 absolute rat DPS in my keys (I only do up to 22-23s because I cba pushing) and I have been able to make up for their dookie damage

#

Of course sometimes you have terrorists that make it impossible to carry a key

eternal sundial
#

Damage is whatever

unreal onyx
eternal sundial
#

Dogshit tanks dying every pull and incapable healers is unfun

unreal onyx
#

Does evoker still use S2 leggo in S3?

#

Propably not ig

teal sable
#

Is Arms doing more DPS now?

hearty surge
#

No

unreal onyx
#

ST sim yes iirc

hearty surge
#

Well yeh but that's not really relevant except for maybe 3 bosses

pulsar prawn
shy knot
#

In pugging around +20 its impossible to have 3 good dps

#

One is ALWAYS a total shitter

#

Sub 200k overall

hearty surge
#

Arms is also better on council, but that was already the case before

shy knot
#

Usually the highest score too on meta spec

hearty surge
#

Sub 200k is fine in 20s

#

Mobs don't have enough hp for everyone to do more

#

If you do good dmg the others are already bound to do little

#

Also that doesn't change in 26s-27s too

shy knot
#

What about under VDH tank

#

That fine too ?

chrome plover
#

if the key is timed then yes :)

calm mantle
#

I mean DH is kinda cracked, seen VDH pull 200k overall in some dungeons.

#

DH and DK tanks are the 2 tanks I see pull some juicy dps numbers at times. Ofc other tanks can do it as well these are just the main ones I see.

ornate gust
unreal onyx
shy knot
#

Huge prot

hearty surge
#

No

unreal onyx
#

Correct

hearty surge
#

maybe take some time to read your talents

unreal onyx
#

Annihalator tooltip

meager gyro
#

analhilator yeah

unreal onyx
#

Or sos idk

#

Or is sos just ww cd

meager gyro
#

SoS is for slam

#

the build on ptr didn'nt work until they added Slam CD reduction on SoS, and we stopped having downtime

winged vale
#

has anyone experienced odyns fury not breaking roots on tindral?

unreal onyx
#

We didn’t stop, we just got significantly less

hearty surge
meager gyro
hearty surge
#

you dont get broken out

#

or if you already have avatar active

winged vale
#

how early is too early? i sue it after they spawn lmao

unreal onyx
hearty surge
#

and it just extends your current one

unreal onyx
#

Wdym too early

winged vale
#

that makes a lot of sensse

unreal onyx
#

You only break out if you are not in avatar

hearty surge
#

Avatar doesnt give immunity to roots

#

it just removes roots effects on application

pulsar prawn
hearty surge
unreal onyx
#

100%

winged vale
#

yeah figured it out, waited until ava fell off then pressed of. worked a treat

hearty surge
#

idk why you would have avatar on 4th roots though

winged vale
#

thamks guys

unreal onyx
#

I‘ve perfected my timings for CDs now I think

hearty surge
#

Ah no, the 4th roots are the ones before the first seeds right

unreal onyx
#

Yes

hearty surge
#

Read your talents

unreal onyx
hearty surge
#

You do?

#

why?

unreal onyx
#

Then you are out of ava for 2s before roots

unreal onyx
pulsar prawn
#

because whole raid breaks 2nd roots p1

oblique trail
#

Barbaric Training and Storm of Swords do

pulsar prawn
#

no feather

unreal onyx
#

I am also flyer team 2,

pulsar prawn
hearty surge
#

Im team 2 flyer and I dont use avatar instantly

#

I use OF on cd and I use avatar to break out of the roots

unreal onyx
hearty surge
#

Timings like up perfectly

#

and now that yu dont need to soak specific seeds anymore

#

you dont lose uptime either

unreal onyx
#

I reck-of on pull, have of back for 1st roots, ava/roar for 2nd roots

#

Of before flying

meager gyro
#

you can't just not take it

unreal onyx
#

Get to p2, of-reck shield, ava/roar insta on cd and you have of back for the roots while dropping ava buff right before first seeds

meager gyro
#

you would lose analhilator

#

can't help ya bud, read the whole guide

hearty surge
#

I do the same except I dont reck on pull, I like reck with avatar

calm mantle
#

Do you guys use might for gnarlroot? do you save it for add phase or just pop at the start?

hearty surge
#

Nah not worth it

#

the adds are just pad

unreal onyx
#

I used signet/augury

#

But idk what’s better

#

Gnarl is a meme boss anyway

pulsar prawn
meager gyro
#

you can lose like 10% dmg and play Single Minded Fury, you press slam a lot less. You press a lot of Bloodthrist, rampage repeat once you are hasted well enough

hearty surge
#

but it depends on killtime

#

if you have ideal killtime and you get to pad thats probably max dps

#

but for boss damage you obviously dont do that

calm mantle
#

I tried signet but because of intermission i barely got any value, was considering Rezans/Crab or might.

hearty surge
#

rezans doesnt do shit

#

augury is where its at

pulsar prawn
calm mantle
#

I don't own an augury otherwise I would. Not all of us are blessed.

hearty surge
hearty surge
calm mantle
unreal onyx
hearty surge
#

Signet is good

#

But for max pad you probably want

#

Moto + augury

#

if you want to go for highest parse possible

unreal onyx
#

I got my 97 with augury + signet

hearty surge
#

if you just want boss dmg

#

I got 99s with signet + rezans

#

for 99s it doesnt matter

unreal onyx
#

I haven’t killed a myth boss in what feeks like ages

#

Pre-nerf smold prison, now tindral fir weeks

calm mantle
hearty surge
#

I just have pad lords on my guild

unreal onyx
#

And then fyrakk for weeks

hearty surge
#

cant do any pad parses

#

because people dont allow it

unreal onyx
calm mantle
unreal onyx
#

(You can also still hit the boss in intermission)

#

It just has 99% reduced dmg

hearty surge
#

Yeh but boss takes 99% reduced damage

#

its for healers

unreal onyx
hearty surge
#

Yes but that also means it wont procc dumb during intermission

#

and then not procc later

unreal onyx
#

Last raid I was at a ~85 parse on tswift on avg

#

So I think the method I use is working

hearty surge
#

parses are kinda sus on progress

#

if you dont kill the boss

slim pollen
unreal onyx
hearty surge
#

im always at like 99s in pulls we wipe earlier

#

yeh

#

but its still off, its kinda weird

#

i dont know what it is exactly, havent bothered to investigate

#

But its kinda sus when you avg 99 on the progress pulls, then you kill and its like a 89

#

or a 90

unreal onyx
#

Aug

clever belfry
#

aug does not really affect your parse on fyrakk as fury

hearty surge
#

Aug buffing warrior xd

unreal onyx
#

Aug mentioned, anda typing deadge

hearty surge
#

actually on fyrakk, you do buff warrior

clever belfry
#

unless they're dogshit and buff you on intermission shield

calm mantle
#

I can't parse for shit on raid bosses, my best was an 80. I'm garbo

eternal sundial
clever belfry
eternal sundial
#

It's just fucked

clever belfry
#

on tswift same thing

#

u should never have buff on shield

#

and root dmg works fine

hearty surge
#

Not buffing rogues on shield

#

is kinda int

#

xdd

clever belfry
#

not just kinda

#

its like

#

please leave the raid kinda bad

hearty surge
#

didnt want to be rude

#

anda wanna do alt keys

#

why are my boss damage parses always alot better than my overall parses

#

hmmmm

calm mantle
#

Waiting for my guild to finish heroic fyrakk skip before mythic and it's been 50 minutes I'm impatient

hearty surge
#

What is your guild doing

fleet sorrel
hearty surge
#

taking longer than sellrun

calm mantle
hearty surge
#

for skip

eternal sundial
#

Interesting raid times

calm mantle
clever belfry
#

gotta get car to the mechanic too

eternal sundial
#

Fuckin students man

clever belfry
#

bro i wish i was up

#

not having a daily rhythm right now is really rough on my mental okay

sudden tusk
#

2 psyducks in here

#

: (

hearty surge
#

I havent had a daily rhythm for years now and i am mentally stable :)

#

xddd

calm mantle
#

I have the most fucked up schedule and habits, I like to believe I'm mentally stable as well.

#

Tho others may disagree.

hearty surge
#

Oh others definitely disagree for me

clever belfry
#

Toph is very unstable

#

nah main issue is only having 1x2h on location this sem and just salivating at home

#

not it

eternal sundial
clever belfry
#

But i just need 4 credits and my thesis

#

no way i drop out now lol

eternal sundial
lean wasp
#

Which part is the longest doing lego

hearty surge
#

You do them all at the same time and you should finish at around the same time

tardy lark
#

whaat leggo

upper mica
#

correct me if im wrong but i seem to be using the leggo before CD's seems to be working well

tardy lark
#

It might be working well for you

#

but it might not be optimal either

#

both can be true 🤷‍♀️

lean wasp
#

Ok does doing it with multiple people that are on the same quest help?

upper mica
#

good point.... lol

#

honestly struggling more deciding on what trinks to use for tindral >.>

calm mantle
#

1:44/3:00 into hour raid time to decide we aren't doing mythic tonight...

chrome plover
#

u sat doing nothing for almost 2h?

calm mantle
#

They did a heroic skip for 1:10, i was loot locked already, then waited 30 minutes to see if we had a 20th hop on then called it.

tacit abyss
eternal sundial
#

Id play locked skip for guild

#

Makes it go easier

calm mantle
#

pulled 199k dps on volc without hissing runes or vers phial easy boss.

upper mica
eternal sundial
calm mantle
clever belfry
#

no shot consumes are 20k

calm mantle
#

Just get lego and augury for hte last 30k

#

Power pot, hissing, phial maybe.

oblique trail
#

Yeah sorry man they're not gonna make you go from 200k to 250k

tacit abyss
unreal onyx
fading sky
#

😄

#

i blame blizzard take no responsibility

fading sky
#

is why my parses are 80-90 not 85-95 😄

#

also i refuse to go into logs and c im being beaten solidly by ppl without it

#

😄

unreal onyx
#

Games fault

#

I just had bad rng

obtuse basin
#

Hi guyz just a little question
What gems do you use to be viable in raid & mm+ with both DPS specs?

unreal onyx
#

2 different specs require 2 different gems to be optimal

obtuse basin
#

Thanks for answers 👍

fleet sorrel
clever belfry
#

do not die villiam

fleet sorrel
#

5 mobs

clever belfry
#

(and not even best on 5 mobs)

eternal sundial
#

Best in no target range

#

Sad!

wild mural
#

Gm 5 target capper

void valley
#

70% ww damage when

upper mica
upper mica
fading sky
oblique trail
#

It keeps stacks, what he meant is the downtime of flying means no stacking it

dusty brook
#

should i always use different wep enchants or only when sim tells me to?

oblique trail
#

But you only fly for roughly 45 seconds that fight, still a lot of the time is spent hitting tindral

fathom wolf
#

Normally on mythic Tindral should you be assigned to first or second flare as a warrior? Or does it matter?

wild mural
#

Im on 2nd and it works well, but I'd imagine that 1st works well too

#

if on 1st I guess just save OF after ava/roar on 2nd roots for 3rd to break out

#

the timings work pretty well for it

dusty brook
#

is it correct that i should aim for 25% haste as fury?

oblique trail
#

There are no %'s to aim for specifically for Fury

#

Just do top gear sims and use w/e it spits out with what you give it

hearty surge
#

I dont understand

oblique trail
#

You use OF on pull, 2nd OF on first roots, 3rd OF to dispel yourself on 3rd roots

hearty surge
oblique trail
#

If you're 1st group anyway

#

You don't, but you might as well use it as you land

#

I don't think timing allows you to hold it for the roots right after

hearty surge
#

Yeh true but it doesnt really matter since the flyers break those anyways

#

the third ones that is

#

shouldnt matter but its safer

#

also more pad

upper mica
oblique trail
#

Depending on your group size, HC Tindral either falls over or actually takes time

#

I.e if you're boosting

upper mica
#

fight is about 7 min and lets say 45 seconds is flying (prob clsoer to 1 min as i have to get orbs behind 2nd platform) so 6 min

hearty surge
#

hc tindral is pain if youre boosing a large amount of buyers

oblique trail
#

6 minutes of hitting is still plenty time to use Signet

hearty surge
#

everyone has to take like 6 stacks for all soaks to be done

oblique trail
#

It's very fun with 14 buyers

hearty surge
#

did a 12-18 boost last week, that was fun.

upper mica
fair wolf
#

How do we use legend in pulls? After CDs? Waiting for a pull withouts CDs?

upper mica
#

i just seem my first 2 with signet did little to no damage

hearty surge
#

warrior does 0 damage on tindral anyways

upper mica
hearty surge
#

if people press their buttons you dont get to do anything

oblique trail
#

Yeah parsing Tindral is omega giga cringe

oblique trail
#

It's the only fight on HC I'm at a 98 on..

#

I'm just bad tho ig..

upper mica
#

lmfao bro im at 86.....

hearty surge
#

I cant get any r1s this season

wild mural
#

I've only got 1 99 on hc

hearty surge
#

I dont know why

#

but no rank 1s omega cringe

wild mural
oblique trail
#

I had a rank 1 (if you don't count lego clueless ) Arms on Council

#

Then it slowly disappeared

hearty surge
oblique trail
#

I just accept though I can't get r1s because I don't have lego

upper mica
#

This is actually not bad IMO considerin i dont have augury and dont do mythic

oblique trail
upper mica
#

but im not the best... i know thos lol

hearty surge
#

I cant do damage on souls because they die too fast

mossy fox
#

i think im in the same position tbh

oblique trail
#

Boss damage parse it is then clueless

mossy fox
#

2 locks, 2 dh, 2 mages, 2 rogues

hearty surge
#

boss damage I get r1s pretty regularely

#

boss damage is not the issue

chrome plover
hearty surge
#

but who cares about boss damage

clever belfry
wild mural
oblique trail
#

I don't until I get a r1

clever belfry
oblique trail
#

Just like ilvl parses only matter when you get r1

mossy fox
#

subbers i think

oblique trail
wild mural
#

I've not had a R1 since S1

clever belfry
#

Okay cause unless ur colossi die too slow assa shouldn't press at all there

upper mica
mossy fox
#

altho i think 1 of them just swap to whatever is best

oblique trail
#

This is the real secret behind me going Arms for Fyrakkie when I get there

#

Easiest parse of my life (there's only like 1 or 2 public logs rn)

mossy fox
#

ye both are sub

hearty surge
#

just have t o apply the right filters and I get r1s too

#

in mythic even

clever belfry
#

holy moly bracket parse

oblique trail
#

Filter parsing

clever belfry
#

bracket healing parse 😳

mossy fox
#

gonna downgrade my ilvl for r1 ilvl parses

hearty surge
#

No its boss damage ilvl

clever belfry
#

Kingus

#

that's more real than bracket healing atleast

oblique trail
clever belfry
#

not good mind u

hearty surge
oblique trail
mossy fox
oblique trail
#

Slightly important item

hearty surge
#

Yo anda

clever belfry
hearty surge
#

talking about healing ilvl parses

clever belfry
#

show

hearty surge
#

when it matters

clever belfry
#

the healerman6969

#

press impending victory twice on a boss challenge

upper mica
#

once i get augury and then realise that my DPS is worse ill end up coming back and asking for help lol

mossy fox
#

then you check their raid page and it's dog

hearty surge
#

without ilvl

#

still good when it matters

clever belfry
hearty surge
#

I press healing when its important is what it tells me

oblique trail
mossy fox
clever belfry
oblique trail
#

Like good on you being ambitious but maybe a bit too high

hearty surge
#

had a guy message me a few days ago

clever belfry
#

I got poached into wr400ish from not doing mythic

hearty surge
#

he wanted to apply to my guild with 3/9 mythic

clever belfry
#

😎

#

KINGUS hc logs

hearty surge
#

asked me to vouch for him for applying

#

because we were in a hc run together once

#

a boost run

oblique trail
#

xd

clever belfry
#

Did u tell them to FARK off

oblique trail
#

Tbf Executie got me into Superbia

#

When my WR was like 700

#

Quickest jump in WR speedrun

clever belfry
#

then superbia died

#

gg

hearty surge
#

I went from world 2000 to world 300 got poached

oblique trail
#

Yeah..

hearty surge
#

then went to world 50

mossy fox
oblique trail
#

Guild got famed AND died the tier after I quit

mossy fox
#

you're cursed though banezi

oblique trail
#

Evidently

#

Speaking of Phoenix recruiting?

mossy fox
#

i think not woyer

#

or no melee for that matter

hearty surge
#

replace critcake

oblique trail
#

Dw my DH has 489 Branch

#

Basically bis already

wild mural
#

ez

hearty surge
#

You should apply to andas guild

#

replace spongie

mossy fox
#

i think the enhance is desperate to get off enhance tho

oblique trail
#

I could never replace Spongiewarr

#

He has orange weapon

#

I do not

hearty surge
oblique trail
#

Automatic loss

mossy fox
#

he's used to play immortal mage/lock

hearty surge
#

enhancer is actually sooo fun in raid

mossy fox
#

enhance is not immortal

hearty surge
#

but it sucks ass to play in m+

oblique trail
#

I've never played Sham before at max

hearty surge
#

at least when you just do weekly keys

#

Enhancer is actually insanely fun in raid

#

You always just blast

#

and rotation is fun too

oblique trail
#

Enhance seems to absolutely fuck Fyrakk

hearty surge
#

barely any downtime

#

and good play is rewarded

oblique trail
#

Every kill I've watched so far Enhance has done cracked damage

mossy fox
#

yeah i hear enha is fun too

#

i guess he just doesn't enjoy dying

#

though i dont think they're squishy

regal elm
#

do you guys enjoy fyrak? kinda triggering, with all the macros and weakauras u need

hearty surge
mossy fox
#

he's just spoiled

hearty surge
#

just dont do too much m+ on it, it spoils it

mossy fox
#

😄

#

idk i dont alt much

hearty surge
#

I know

mossy fox
#

and if i alt, it's an m+ alt

oblique trail
#

I saw you prepare your 3rd warrior earlier..

#

Crittercake..

mossy fox
#

oh

#

nah i was scouting other realms for tertiary boe

hearty surge
#

its great fun to just log into raid once a week and blast

#

thats what enh is fun for

mossy fox
#

i bought this from twisting nether

hearty surge
#

no socket smh

mossy fox
#

i had 2 sockies in bag

#

just needed tert

oblique trail
#

Who needs to have a socket when all you do is get sockets from vault

hearty surge
#

I dont get any sockets from vault

oblique trail
#

Picked 6 by now on my main

hearty surge
#

i just get like 100 dps bis items from m+

#

that I never get again so I have to take them

still swift
#

banezi is so cool

mossy fox
#

terts are insane dude

oblique trail
#

nina is so cool

mossy fox
#

this helm upped my speed from 5% to 13%

hearty surge
#

I picked tindral neck this week though...I think that was a mistake

oblique trail
hearty surge
#

shouldve waited for reclear

still swift